• PS3 Hacks , 24.02.2010

    xorloser has released his PS3 HV Dump setup script for IDA which “setups function tables including the hypercall (syscall) table, mmcall table, OPD, TOC, GOT. It will find common functions such as puts and printf and very importantly it will fixup all rtoc references which are used to access global variables and strings”. You can download the file below.




    To quote from xorloser’s blog:

    I haven’t gotten around to doing an update in a while due to work (and a little relaxation) taking all my time. Rather than wait till I have finished all of the stuff I wanted to before posting again I decided to post some tidbits to tide you over until the rest is ready. Before I do so I’d like to make the following clear as no matter how many times I say it, people believe what they want to believe instead:

    THIS PS3 EXPLOIT WILL NOT ENABLE PLAYING OF COPIED OR BACKED UP GAMES. THE EXPLOIT IS FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY.

    It seems someone took some initiative and made some software themselves to dump the hypervisor once they have the correct hardware and software. So for anyone who has used that and dumped their own hypervisor I present this PS3 HV Dump setup script for IDA.This script will setup function tables including the hypercall (syscall) table, mmcall table, OPD, TOC, GOT. It will find common functions such as puts and printf and very importantly it will fixup all rtoc references which are used to access global variables and strings.

    To use the script you should extract it somewhere and then from within IDA select “File->IDC File…”, then navigate to where you extracted the file and select it. Please note that this script could overwrite your previous work, so please run backup your idb/i64 file before running it. I recommend running it on a freshly created database by loading your hypervisor dump into IDA as “ppc” at ROM address 0 and then running this script as detailed above before doing anything else.

    The other tidbit I wanted to share was the updates to the PPC Altivec plugin source code which I had forgotten to include in the recent releases, but which a few people have since asked for. Here is the PPC Altivec plugin v1.6 for IDA v5.6 with sourcecode. If anyone makes any fixes or adds support for new functions please pass these updates back to me so I can share them on this site.

    [Download HV Dump script for IDA]
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  • 37 Comments

    1. spec8320
      02-24-2010
      02:15 PM
      1

      good job we are closer to homebrews

    2. iTZzDaGr33K
      02-24-2010
      03:07 PM
      2

      75% There , Come on people :D
      I'd love some ps3 games for free and some homebrew out there.
      Or i wasted 60 on a ps3 80gb with cod :P]


      Keep up the good work .
      Working wonders

    3. alex3305
      02-24-2010
      03:33 PM
      3

      Damn.. Why can't people ffs stop whining about freaking backups! This is purely for homebrew and research purposes only. Also I bet 99% of the people doesn't even have a BR burner.

      Maybe it is a possibility to give those users a warning and delete their posts, as they are quite annoying!

    4. Daniel Benoy
      02-24-2010
      04:02 PM
      4

      Does anyone know what this does? Is it some kind of dumper that exports the hypervisor code?

      I agree that people who are asking about "backup" loaders should stop posting. It'll come when it comes, and there are other priorities as well, such as turning on OtherOS for Slim, and enabling PS2 emulation across all console revisions.

      As for burning blu-rays, I'm sure someone will create a hard drive loader.

    5. Spiker
      02-24-2010
      04:08 PM
      5

      I could really give a sh!t if people are whining about back-ups cuz when we have home brew, and there is no ISO loader, people are gonna be angry and it's all because of themselves.

    6. madshaun1984
      02-24-2010
      05:20 PM
      6

      Talk about backups is not breaking any rules, so they can post they're wants all they like, its still months if not years away before any sort of backup loader for the ps3 comes to fruition.

      In other words backups are irrelevent at this point so please stay on topic.

      And to answer the question about what this does, its an easier, more precise way to start to dissasmble your aquired (via geohots exploit) HV dumps.

    7. iTZzDaGr33K
      02-25-2010
      10:30 AM
      7

      I can write what i want so shut the **** up , i think most of us want this hack to work so there is an iso loader or something that will get us games for free.
      Who really cares about ps2 support? Games will look crap anyway ffs it aint 1080p its 480i and on 42 inch tv's suck from my experience so stop getting a bonor and focus on what this hack is meant for .

    8. jaasumbra
      02-25-2010
      01:16 PM
      8

      Originally Posted by iTZzDaGr33K View Post
      75% There , Come on people :D
      I'd love some ps3 games for free and some homebrew out there.
      Or i wasted 60 on a ps3 80gb with cod :P]


      Keep up the good work .
      Working wonders
      I would say we are more like 10% there.
      Also, supporting the devs isn't wasting money.
      I hope for your sake, that a possible hack will be so complex when released, that you are never going to be able to obtain homebrew - 'cause I know what you are going to use/misuse that for

    9. Daniel Benoy
      02-25-2010
      02:57 PM
      9

      Using this exploit to hack your PS3 is pretty uncomfortable. It involves a bit of hardware and some soldering and a lot of trying again and again between reboots. I bet it'll be beyond the patience level of most users, and it doesn't work at all on the slim.

      Most likely we'll have to wait a long long time for someone to reverse engineer the PS3's internals to the point where they're able to find an exploit that gets you access at the XMB level completely in software. (The PSP3000, for example, still doesn't have a custom firmware hack and it's been out for over a year and for most of that time hackers have been able to run certain levels of code on it)

      Maybe by the time a convenient hack is released, PS3 games will no longer be in production.

    10. Qraze1
      02-25-2010
      03:01 PM
      10

      i would actually prefer (if) any hacks come through, they stay linux side. the limited linux hdd space alone would kill almost any thoughts of bluray to hdd copied iso loaded games. we got what about 10 gigs to work with as it is, some games could fit i suppose, but nothing like u2, mgs4, ff13 and many more unless a external hd device is hooked up and compatible, meaning you're still gonna have to spend money to play games.

      i don't even care too much about the ps3 being hacked, its great that people are getting some great progress done, but i've been having ps3 fun on my 3 years now without hacks or piracy and having them won't change that either.

    11. iTZzDaGr33K
      02-25-2010
      03:12 PM
      11

      Who cares , we buy the console , i can do what i like with it .
      Sony can go toss themselves for all i care .
      They made the console , who are they to tell me how to use it .

      I buy bread from tesco , they don't say only eat the crust.

      What makes sony so special. IDC 40 a game is a piss take , 15-20 is more reasonable, people would not bother hacking consoles if games were cheap . When will they ever learn? I dont give a **** if they can't make games anymore because over charging customers is stupid. They bumped up the price on mw 2 because they knew dumb asses like us would still pay that much for it .

      **** all the developers .

      I hope geohots work pays off , and all ps3 stuff is free .

    12. GregoryRasputin
      02-25-2010
      03:19 PM
      12

      Originally Posted by iTZzDaGr33K View Post

      **** all the developers .
      I will assume you are uneducated and come from a third world country, for which your ignorance will be forgiven.

      I hope the PS3 never gets hacked, because of people like you.

    13. Zeruth
      02-25-2010
      04:26 PM
      13

      Just to throw this out there, why do you think they are disassembling the HV code?? to find a software exploit. IF and when they do, this whole hardware requirement might no longer exist. As I stated earlier. an ISO loader WILL BE MADE wether anyone (mods included) would like it or not just for the fact that some people dont like to pay for others hard work. SO people asking for one should know that it will be made eventually so shutup and wait. and people who flame those that ask for one should shutup as well because it will happen, and you all know it. arguing about it is just causing high school drama.

      **** all the developers
      ^^and a touch on this. you are one of the most ignorant people I have EVER come across. you say **** the people that gives your console any kind of a meaningful existance.

    14. fullstrength
      02-25-2010
      06:26 PM
      14

      I get a kick out of all these people who diss on pirates like they're hardcore criminals or something. Sure it's selfish, but come on, we all have our moments when we don't feel the rules apply to us.....speeding, sneaking into movies, telling random lies, cheating on tests, etc. Being selfish can bring forth the best or the worst of us, but face it, it's a trait that's never going away. So get over it, and get over yourself.....nobody's perfect....

      I'm fullstrength......and I approve this message!

    15. jesdaking
      02-25-2010
      06:46 PM
      15

      fullstrength nicely said.

      I really think all the developers are doing a great work. But hate that they think they are saints.

      But im just a human, and not perfekt ether.

    16. pcmacro
      02-26-2010
      10:14 AM
      16

      ItZ

      I actually don't mind an isoloader up until I am reminded that they are people like you out there.

      You do not have a single clue about the process, cost, creativity, dedication and hardwork it takes to make these games, so how can you assume the products appropriate cost? You find them too expensive...well then...don't buy them. Oh but wait you like the games, which is why you want an isoloader, yet you say F!$%k the developers.

      I am guessing you are a kid, but its time for you to grow up if you want to keep up with society.

    17. KatanaPL
      02-26-2010
      10:22 AM
      17

      Developers aren't that bad, the publishers are the most evil kind in the game world AND the taxes and everything like this (not every country ).

      For example:

      In USA you can buy a new PS3 game for about 50$, here in Poland we have to pay 68.5$ for a game and also we don't get that much money like for example:

      in Germany you get paid normally about 1200 Euro (about average) and they pay for games about 50-60 Euro (and for gasoline 1.10Euro/1L).

      in Poland we get paid normally about 1200 PLN (300 Euro)(I think it's the average) and we pay for games about 180-200PLN (45-50 Euro) (what's funny - for a same PC Game you pay 25 Euro ) (and for gasoline 4.4 PLN (1.1Euro)/1L.

      So almost any German can buy about 20-24 games or tank about 1100L gasoline
      In Poland we can buy 6 Games or tank about 270L gasoline.

      So some people in some countries are wounded from the start - it's not our fault, but we can't do anything about it except going away from our homeland, it's sad, but true.

      I don't mean that we can't buy any games and we "REALLY FU**ING WANT A ISO LOADER!!11", but not everyone is the same and not every man gets the same payment.
      I like to buy original games, but I can't buy as much as I would like (1 game per month would be fine, but I can get only 1 game every 2 months (new ones - maybe...).

      And no one can say that when we are goins to buy games, they're going to lower the prices or somthing - it's not true...

      I wish that console games in Poland would cost the same as PC Games...

    18. madshaun1984
      02-26-2010
      10:43 AM
      18

      Originally Posted by iTZzDaGr33K View Post
      Who cares , we buy the console , i can do what i like with it .
      Sony can go toss themselves for all i care .
      They made the console , who are they to tell me how to use it .

      I buy bread from tesco , they don't say only eat the crust.

      What makes sony so special. IDC 40 a game is a piss take , 15-20 is more reasonable, people would not bother hacking consoles if games were cheap . When will they ever learn? I dont give a **** if they can't make games anymore because over charging customers is stupid. They bumped up the price on mw 2 because they knew dumb asses like us would still pay that much for it .

      **** all the developers .

      I hope geohots work pays off , and all ps3 stuff is free .

      So by your reckoning, all games that you want should be free, and sony should allow you to pirate someone elses creation, well heres a quick breakdown of why you are wrong.

      1) Sony develop security for they're consoles so that games developers choose they're platform as they're target console, in the knowledge that they're hard work and investment in creating a game to sell to the public is safe from pirates that will then inturn download (for free) and then proceed to sell that game at a profit for only themselves.

      2) Games developers goto publishers for funding to create games, the publishers wont give the money for these games if they are being aimed at consoles that are taking to bad a loss in sales, as they're return on they're investment wont be that great, or not even match what they invested in some bad cases.

      3) Sony also publish games, (see point 2 for a brief breakdown). So by securing they're system from pirates they are protecting they're own investment, aswell as other publishers/games dev's.

      4) It can cost anywhere upto and beyond 50 million to produce a game (fact), and can take in some cases up to 4 years and beyond to develop a game for any given platform. So why should the developers/publishers then give that game away or sell it at a low price that wont even really cover they're out goings on a game, and not get any profit (that will pay the devs a living, (they have families that need to eat etc... too you know)) that profit inturn then encourages the devs to create new games, and so the circle continues.

      5) Most games have an online mode now a days, so they need to cover the costs it will take to setup a server system to allow that game to be played online, and they also need to pay for an internet connection to feed that server and allow the players to connect to it, then they need to pay for maintanence on that server system. this all costs money. so if they take 5 from every sale of that 40-60 game, and put it to one side, that then covers these costs, and keeps that online mode that came with the game active.

      6) All these points are valid for any game on any platform, and theres additional costs in porting from one platform to another.

      This list continues, and if by just these six points you cant see why you are wrong, then you really do need to hang your head in shame.

      As for Sony and this current exploit. Sony gave us otherOS, and while they still had security in mind they chose to lock down certain features, and disable the full use of say the RSX. At the end of the day, from a business point of veiw, they would not want you to be using the otherOS to play games when they have another operating system on that same platform that plays games, if your busy playing games on linux, then sony arent making a profit.

      As far as the exploit goes, we will eventually see an iso loader/way to play backups released, but its not going to come as soon as some would hope, and while I wont deny I will most likely use it myself at some point or another, I have a try before I buy principle when it comes to aquired copies of games, and I will always pay for a game, if I feel I like it. Theres nothing worse than buying a game only to find out a few hours after you get home that you hate the way it plays, or the story line isnt as enthralling as you had hoped. And personally I cant wait to see some of the potential for otherOS homebrew starting to come through

    19. Zeruth
      02-26-2010
      11:54 AM
      19

      madshaun has a good head on his shoulders.

    20. levendi2nv
      02-26-2010
      06:18 PM
      20

      Originally Posted by iTZzDaGr33K View Post
      Who cares , we buy the console , i can do what i like with it .
      Sony can go toss themselves for all i care .
      They made the console , who are they to tell me how to use it .

      I buy bread from tesco , they don't say only eat the crust.

      What makes sony so special. IDC 40 a game is a piss take , 15-20 is more reasonable, people would not bother hacking consoles if games were cheap . When will they ever learn? I dont give a **** if they can't make games anymore because over charging customers is stupid. They bumped up the price on mw 2 because they knew dumb asses like us would still pay that much for it .

      **** all the developers .

      I hope geohots work pays off , and all ps3 stuff is free .

      if you havent noticed IT TAKES TIME AND COSTS MONEY TO PRODUCE GAMES. If 75% of people pirated games, devs and publishers would lose money, and therefore produce less games, or even invest less money into them making them crap.

      lets hope a iso loader comes out when ps4 is out so we dont have to worry about this crap. Personally i download the demo, looks good? okay il go buy it and most people complain about not having money try not working a few months and still buying games, also as a example if u like the call of duty series which alot of users do why would u want to pirate that software? if you help them make money they keep bringing year after year better titles to your platform so why try to rip them off?

    21. eyepartie
      02-26-2010
      11:02 PM
      21

      Nothing wrong with the way iTZzDaGr33K feels. People don't like confinement in any form for any reason whatsoever; we want our absolute freedom. Having said that, owning a game that is scratched would be an ideal situation where an iso loader would suffice as a plausable and logical remedy for maintaining the health of a $60 game. Additionally, why would xorloser care about the inevitable? If xorloser wishes not to participate in the programming of such an iso loader, then someone else will. Geohot himself said it was up to 'us' to find a use for the pulse hack/memory dumping and not exclusively xorloser ;-) (thanks xorloser for your hasty hard work and participation, but the hack was published by Geohot publically).

    22. GregoryRasputin
      02-27-2010
      08:24 AM
      22

      Originally Posted by eyepartie View Post
      Nothing wrong with the way iTZzDaGr33K feels. People don't like confinement in any form for any reason whatsoever; we want our absolute freedom. Having said that, owning a game that is scratched would be an ideal situation where an iso loader would suffice as a plausable and logical remedy for maintaining the health of a $60 game.
      As much as we live in a "free" society, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, if he wants an ISO loader, that is his right, but there is everything wrong with the way iTZzDaGr33K feels/thinks, his reasons for wanting it arnt right also to say screw the devs that are creating the games, that he is playing, is totally wrong.

      On the subject of a scratched game, if you pay $60 for a game and cant be bothered to look after it, maybe you shouldn't own games.

    23. Qraze1
      02-27-2010
      12:59 PM
      23

      I'll be one of the first to tell ya that i want an isoloader, just not for ps3 iso's.
      But i also recognise the amount of time and testing needed for one, especially on the heels of this exploit.
      I also wish i knew how to do something towards contributing to this cause other than typing on a keyboard.

      But i do wait patiently while grinding and farming in white knight chronicles, having fun waiting patiently, i might add.

      I really can't expect anything to come from this exploit because i'm not doing anything to help further it, but i can hope something eventually does come from it.

    24. iTZzDaGr33K
      02-27-2010
      01:36 PM
      24

      I buy my share of games , i own 15-20 games and it's time for some free ones , 40 x 20 ??? yeah thats alot of money , why not have 20 games free?

      Stop *****ing i think you all want an iso loader , you want this hack to work so you can watch Barbie?? go on youtube...

    25. BobbyBlunt
      02-27-2010
      03:41 PM
      25

      You know what I have gotten from this thread? An argument between the newbs wanting an ISO loader, and the people that actually like gaining knowledge about system architecture. I have spent almost 3 years in college and I have never got to play with any type of chip architecture like this, so I am on the same page as Gregory Rasputin. I hope that the hack is so incredibly hard (which it is for most of the people crying about iso loaders) that a majority will not be able to do it. Seriously, how many of you have worked with clock cycles, buses, registers, instruction sets, assembly language, machine language, Linux, logic gates and several other factors like software development in C++ and various other knowledge in electronics. Asking for ISO Loaders is not against the rules but it is annoying to some of us. Reports from various places are claiming that others are looking at it now as well and that GeoHot has managed to get a level 2 dump and other are looking at it.

      Also, I'm not completely innocent. I have done my share of piracy too. The PS3 is different though. I like looking at my stack of 20+ PS3 games and I am happy to know that I bought everyone of them legit, but on the other hand PS3 CFW would be nice, but then you will probably lose PSN access which I use daily.

      But on topic: This is great that other people are taking this to new levels. The geohot exploit has been taken even further and now others are able to gain access to very very valuable information that the scene lacked. Seeing that I now have a broken 80 gig (wont read disc) I am now able to do some things with this exploit since Im not worried about bricking my system.

    26. Zeruth
      02-28-2010
      01:28 PM
      26

      man, They are dumping the HV in the hopes of finding a software exploit, possibly getting rid of the need for the hardware exploit.

    27. SuperDre
      02-28-2010
      02:02 PM
      27

      Originally Posted by iTZzDaGr33K View Post
      I buy my share of games , i own 15-20 games and it's time for some free ones , 40 x 20 ??? yeah thats alot of money , why not have 20 games free?

      Stop *****ing i think you all want an iso loader , you want this hack to work so you can watch Barbie?? go on youtube...
      If you ***** about paying 40 pounds for a game (which is only the first week/presell for new games), then why not wait a few weeks and pay less.. You still will enjoy the game, I personally have 70+ PS3 games since I bought my PS3 begin januari 2009, and I haven't payed more than 17 pounds including shipping on average (most expensive game I bought was lego-starwars for 30 euro's in a regular store, but for the rest about 15 euro's or less (excluding shipping).. And yes they normally aren't the newest games out, but I still have just as much fun (maybe even more as I haven't payed so much) as if i got it on day one of release..
      And you already can play free games using linux on the PS3, and with full access to the RSX (and someone is able to create a good working hardware accelerated driver) you can even play 'better' games on it.. So stop *****ing about an ISO-loader, homebrew is already possible on the PS3 to a degree..

    28. b33eazy
      02-28-2010
      02:04 PM
      28

      @pcmacro, madshaun1984, levendi2nv, GregoryRasputin

      I just hope none of you guys pirate music or movies because those people in that industry work just as hard; however, A LOT of people pirate their stuff. As a matter fact, the music industry is on its last legs because of pirating. THOUSANDS of people lost their jobs because some cheap bum can't pay $1.00 for the song he or she likes. The gaming industry is NOT about to collapse because of pirating; as a matter of fact, that industry is seeing growth. So I hope you guys aren't hypocrites for bashing a guy who wants to pirate and couldn't careless about the people who put in their hard work when you people are doing the same thing in a different industry. Please tell me that you guys aren't hypocrites. And I don't want to hear excuses why its okay to pirate hard working people in another industry, yet it's wrong in another.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt View Post
      You know what I have gotten from this thread? An argument between the newbs wanting an ISO loader, and the people that actually like gaining knowledge about system architecture. I have spent almost 3 years in college and I have never got to play with any type of chip architecture like this, so I am on the same page as Gregory Rasputin. I hope that the hack is so incredibly hard (which it is for most of the people crying about iso loaders) that a majority will not be able to do it. Seriously, how many of you have worked with clock cycles, buses, registers, instruction sets, assembly language, machine language, Linux, logic gates and several other factors like software development in C++ and various other knowledge in electronics. Asking for ISO Loaders is not against the rules but it is annoying to some of us. Reports from various places are claiming that others are looking at it now as well and that GeoHot has managed to get a level 2 dump and other are looking at it.

      Also, I'm not completely innocent. I have done my share of piracy too. The PS3 is different though. I like looking at my stack of 20+ PS3 games and I am happy to know that I bought everyone of them legit, but on the other hand PS3 CFW would be nice, but then you will probably lose PSN access which I use daily.

      But on topic: This is great that other people are taking this to new levels. The geohot exploit has been taken even further and now others are able to gain access to very very valuable information that the scene lacked. Seeing that I now have a broken 80 gig (wont read disc) I am now able to do some things with this exploit since Im not worried about bricking my system.
      So you're saying it's okay to steal as long as you're not stealing from the PS brand. That's one of the most foolish statements I heard in a while. IT'S NOT OKAY TO STEAL FROM ANYONE. EVERYONE PUTS IN HARD WORK FOR THE STUFF THEIR SELLING. STOP BEING A HYPOCRITE. If you're against piracy, support it 100%, not half way. Or you will sound like a fool.
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      Originally Posted by SuperDre View Post
      If you ***** about paying 40 pounds for a game (which is only the first week/presell for new games), then why not wait a few weeks and pay less.. You still will enjoy the game, I personally have 70+ PS3 games since I bought my PS3 begin januari 2009, and I haven't payed more than 17 pounds including shipping on average (most expensive game I bought was lego-starwars for 30 euro's in a regular store, but for the rest about 15 euro's or less (excluding shipping).. And yes they normally aren't the newest games out, but I still have just as much fun (maybe even more as I haven't payed so much) as if i got it on day one of release..
      And you already can play free games using linux on the PS3, and with full access to the RSX (and someone is able to create a good working hardware accelerated driver) you can even play 'better' games on it.. So stop *****ing about an ISO-loader, homebrew is already possible on the PS3 to a degree..
      Homebrew is already here, so there's no reason for you to be on the site since you're apparently against piracy.

    29. madshaun1984
      02-28-2010
      03:02 PM
      29

      Film and music piracy is a whole different ball game to running unsigned code, or playing backups on a console that is designed to stop you doing it. There is no need to learn about a dvd players software or hardware in order to play a backed up copy of a film you have backed up, or any need to learn about the software used on your mp3 player, and as far as films and music go, then my personal principle of if I like something I will buy stays valid for any borrowed material from the internet, as im sure many other users you are targetting your post at will also agree.

      If you can afford to buy the console in the first place and a tv to use it to its full capabilities, then you should be able to afford to pay 40 once every couple of months to legally buy your games. If you feel its ok not to pay for games, and you want an isoloader to help you achieve not having to pay for games, then you are nothing but a thief, and dont deserve to have the console in the first place.

    30. GregoryRasputin
      02-28-2010
      03:32 PM
      30

      Originally Posted by b33eazy View Post
      @pcmacro, madshaun1984, levendi2nv, GregoryRasputin

      I just hope none of you guys pirate music or movies because those people in that industry work just as hard; however,

      Not that its any of your business i buy my PS3 games,Xbox 360 games and WII games, i also buy my movies, quite recently i bought three Blu Rays, not that that is any of your business as i already stated.


      Originally Posted by b33eazy View Post
      Homebrew is already here, so there's no reason for you to be on the site since you're apparently against piracy.
      Since this site is against Piracy, your statement has no merit and makes 0 sense, as far as homebrew, your wrong, there are no apps made by homebrewers on my PS3, or on any PS3 for that fact.

    31. BobbyBlunt
      02-28-2010
      08:27 PM
      31

      Originally Posted by b33eazy View Post
      @pcmacro, madshaun1984, levendi2nv, GregoryRasputin

      I just hope none of you guys pirate music or movies because those people in that industry work just as hard; however, A LOT of people pirate their stuff. As a matter fact, the music industry is on its last legs because of pirating. THOUSANDS of people lost their jobs because some cheap bum can't pay $1.00 for the song he or she likes. The gaming industry is NOT about to collapse because of pirating; as a matter of fact, that industry is seeing growth. So I hope you guys aren't hypocrites for bashing a guy who wants to pirate and couldn't careless about the people who put in their hard work when you people are doing the same thing in a different industry. Please tell me that you guys aren't hypocrites. And I don't want to hear excuses why its okay to pirate hard working people in another industry, yet it's wrong in another.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************


      So you're saying it's okay to steal as long as you're not stealing from the PS brand. That's one of the most foolish statements I heard in a while. IT'S NOT OKAY TO STEAL FROM ANYONE. EVERYONE PUTS IN HARD WORK FOR THE STUFF THEIR SELLING. STOP BEING A HYPOCRITE. If you're against piracy, support it 100%, not half way. Or you will sound like a fool.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************


      Homebrew is already here, so there's no reason for you to be on the site since you're apparently against piracy.
      Well I must say that you either having a problem reading or you are just plain ignorant. I admitted to my guilt and I never once said piracy was okay. Read my post again dumb f*** before posting that I said piracy was okay except with the ps brand. I am guilty of piracy as stated above but you only want to read and comprehend about half of my post. So before you tell someone they need to leave this site, or before you call someone a hypocrite grow half of a brain. I never said I was against piracy, I'm against dumbass people that only want this hack for piracy. I guess you don't do well with reading comprehension.

      SMOKED

    32. levendi2nv
      03-01-2010
      12:38 AM
      32

      b33eazy you are probably another noob out there wanting a iso loader so you can play games for free on your 32 cm old box tv, if you cant afford games why buy the console let alone a tv to use your ps3 to full extent i mean why have blu ray and 1080p high def to play on a old tv, if this hack leads to major piracy im totally against it

    33. GregoryRasputin
      03-01-2010
      04:59 AM
      33

      Ok guys, keep it clean.

    34. levendi2nv
      03-01-2010
      05:58 AM
      34

      sorry gregory i just dont like being accused of things i havent done, people are inconsiderate saying f*** the devs, without devs what would you play? super mario on a emulator, sure that would be fun... for a while but then i would have to say id rather COD online or battle field 2 or MAG

    35. Daniel Benoy
      03-02-2010
      09:45 AM
      35

      Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt View Post
      You know what I have gotten from this thread? An argument between the newbs wanting an ISO loader, and the people that actually like gaining knowledge about system architecture.
      Wanting an ISO loader doesn't make you a newb.

      I've been a professional software developer for ten years. I have the experience to know how difficult it is to design a system like this and build software for it, but I want an ISO loader too.

      This thread has some people who are awaiting an ISO loader who are immature and rude, and want to say absurd things like '**** all devs', but we're not all like that.

    36. eyepartie
      03-03-2010
      12:53 AM
      36

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      As much as we live in a "free" society, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, if he wants an ISO loader, that is his right, but there is everything wrong with the way iTZzDaGr33K feels/thinks, his reasons for wanting it arnt right also to say screw the devs that are creating the games, that he is playing, is totally wrong.

      On the subject of a scratched game, if you pay $60 for a game and cant be bothered to look after it, maybe you shouldn't own games.
      Sorry for not replying sooner, but I've been busy with my crazy last semester in my Biochemistry & Computer Science Major and minor, respectfully.
      GregoryRasputin (just to teach ya a little psychology), the word "everything" is an irrational word which means that, to some degree, your previous post is irrational. You must also remember that arnt is not a word ; that is beside the point. The point is, ITZzDaGr33K's thinking is his/her freedom; this hack is about freedom to do whatever we want to do with whatever we purchase while taking full responsibility for the negative repercussions of our actions. An analogy to what you're saying would be the following: a man who goes into a gun store to purchase a gun will be a threat to society, although the actual threat will be that, so many people have purchased guns and increased the likelihood that a handful of people will use them in a negative way. Therefore, guns are looked down upon, when all the man wanted to do was purchase a rifle for hunting. Additionally, many have had scuffed/scratched discs; they're delicate and fragile. Improper handling from ignorant friends ( I have a few, they like to assume that they are better than people from third world countries ;-) private joke between GregoryRasputin, ITZzDaGr33K, and I for those of you who didn’t get that one ) or by sheer accident can make games easy targets to become damaged from whatever the uncontrollable variable may be. The plastic to make those discs is known to cost a mere few cents, and Sony doesn't offer an exchange program for damaged discs or software to allow the user game-to-HDD transfers like the 360 is capable of (they would rather us purchase another copy of the game). Having said that, an isoloader will most likely exist in the near future, and the only people I’ve ever heard of being against the idea is here at this site (maybe I don't get out much?).

      [QUOTE=BobbyBlunt;100053]You know what I have gotten from this thread? An argument between the newbs wanting an ISO loader, and the people that actually like gaining knowledge about system architecture. I have spent almost 3 years in college and I have never got to play with any type of chip architecture like this, so I am on the same page as Gregory Rasputin. I hope that the hack is so incredibly hard (which it is for most of the people crying about iso loaders) that a majority will not be able to do it. Seriously, how many of you have worked with clock cycles, buses, registers, instruction sets, assembly language, machine language, Linux, logic gates and several other factors like software development in C++ and various other knowledge in electronics.

      /QUOTE]

      BobbyBlunt, you need to read your posts before you post. (1) This isn't a technical forum, (2) bragging about being in (almost) 3 years of college doesn't make your point more bold, (3) there are no 'newbs' here wanting or ‘crying’ for an isoloader (except maybe you), and (4) I aint no garsh darn english professor, but you may want to add a ? mark to the end of "and various other knowledge in electronics." so that people take you a little more seriously than I do.

      -No need for replies; I won't be back on here thank the lord.


      -PS3 memory read successfully with a 100ms loop circuit consisting of a 60 ns crystal oscillater operating @ ~16.7 MHZ

    37. GregoryRasputin
      03-03-2010
      08:48 AM
      37

      Originally Posted by eyepartie View Post

      BobbyBlunt, you need to read your posts before you post. (1) This isn't a technical forum, (2) bragging about being in (almost) 3 years of college doesn't make your point more bold, (3) there are no 'newbs' here wanting or crying for an isoloader (except maybe you), and (4) I aint no garsh darn english professor, but you may want to add a ? mark to the end of "and various other knowledge in electronics." so that people take you a little more seriously than I do.

      -No need for replies; I won't be back on here thank the lord.

      I wont make much of a statement, on your wall of text, i only comment to people, whom i hope will have an understanding, which obviously by the statement i have quoted above, you aren't one of those people.

      Let me explain why:

      Originally Posted by eyepartie View Post
      BobbyBlunt, you need to read your posts before you post. (1) This isn't a technical forum,
      Yes indeed it is a technical forum, for those who wish to make it so, just have a browse through various "technical" posts.

      Originally Posted by eyepartie View Post
      (2) bragging about being in (almost) 3 years of college doesn't make your point more bold
      I'm sure you have heard the saying, "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones", the opening to your wall of text, you quite proudly state that you are finishing a semester in Biochemistry & Computer Science Major and minor, i hear the word hypocrite ringing in my ears with such severity it hurts.

      Originally Posted by eyepartie View Post
      (3) there are no 'newbs' here wanting or crying for an isoloader (except maybe you), and
      There clearly are "newbs" calling for ISO loaders, you so proudly and valiantly defended one, in case you suffer from some sort of memory loss, his name is iTZzDaGr33K.
      I know for a fact, that BobbyBlunt doesn't want, nor will he use an ISO loader, i also know that none of the decent people that i associate myself with on the forum, or IRC are wanting an ISO loader, so you see, it is a minority.

      Originally Posted by eyepartie View Post
      (4) I aint no garsh darn english professor, but you may want to add a ? mark to the end of "and various other knowledge in electronics." so that people take you a little more seriously than I do.
      That statement shows that you are very far from knowing anything about English, various reasons why, take your comment about be misspelling aren't, saying that "arnt" isnt a real word, when i clearly just misspelled the word, so i guess ill throw the word "aint" and "garsh" in your face.
      As far as BobbyBlunt being worried about you having respect for him or not, he dosnt care, though im sure he will say so himself.

    38. supervisor
      03-18-2010
      05:08 AM
      38

      For god's sake. STOP SAYING BLURAY DISCS ARE EXPENSIVE.

      A dual-layer DVD+r costs about $1 per piece and has 8.5gb of storage.

      A BD-r disc on newegg costs $3 per disc in a 10 disc spindle and has 25gb of storage.

      The LG burners cost about $150 which is about €110 euros.

      So no, they are not ****ing expensive.

      And no, I couldn't give two ****s about an isoloader. Already got a legit 60gb console and all worthwhile games for it, and pre-ordered GOW3. There isn't that much good stuff coming out that I'd even want to spend the time & money modding the console and downloading 20gb isos and risking bricking the entire thing.