• PS3 Hacks , 22.07.2010

    As i reported a few times on the forum, several PS3 owners are suing Sony for the removal of the Other OS, an undisclosed, source of Maxconsole has reported to them, that all the Other OS lawsuits, will be combined into one huge lawsuit, here is what Maxconsole said:

    Here’s the information a source received from a legal offering (who has given to us and wishes to remain anonymous):

    In essence, the claims in these cases are that Sony Computer Entertainment of America (“Sony”) falsely represented that PS3 purchasers would be able to use their PS3s as a computer by installing another operating system, such as Linux. In a recent firmware update, Sony removed the ability of consumers to utilize this feature. As a result, seven class actions were filed against Sony in federal court in San Francisco, California.

    We are pleased to announce that, at the request of all counsel, United States District Judge Richard Seeborg has consolidated all of the pending class actions against Sony relating to “Other OS” litigation into one action. As part of that consolidation, the attorneys in the consolidated actions agreed upon an organizational structure to prosecute this action against Sony as a united front. At the request of all of the attorneys, Judge Seeborg ordered that three law firms with offices in San Francisco where the litigation is pending will serve as co-lead counsel (Calvo & Clark, LLP; Finkelstein Thompson, LLP; and
    Hausfeld, LLP). We are also pleased to announce that Meiselman, Denlea, Packman, Carton & Eberz P.C. has been appointed by the various plaintiffs’ law firms as the firm responsible for acting as a liaison with you and other potential class members. Please don’t hesitate to contact us with any inquiries you may have concerning the litigation, and we will periodically update you as developments warrant.

    The next step in the litigation is to file a Consolidated Class Action Complaint, which we anticipate filing by the end of the month. Sony will then respond to the Complaint, and we will return to the Court in September to discuss the next steps of the litigation.

    Source

    Here is a list of links, for information regarding the names of Judges and Lawyers mentioned above.
    Judge Richard Seeborg
    Calvo & Clark
    Finkelstein Thompson
    Hausfeld
    Meiselman, Denlea, Packman, Carton & Eberz P.C.

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  • 13 Comments

    1. mightykhan
      07-23-2010
      12:54 AM
      1

      September? AAARRRRRGGHHH!

      7 CALS filed and all they've done so far is consolidate them and say they'll figure out what to do in September?

      So much for the law. OtherOS will have to be reclaimed by other means.

    2. melinawaugh
      07-23-2010
      05:36 AM
      2

      I think people always money whenever she can its just the way of things these days, besides its the only thing that a company has long gone is the philosophy that the customer is always right or that the client has done and that ...

    3. Daniel Benoy
      07-23-2010
      12:44 PM
      3

      I agree. Sony (and the other major console manufacturers) are treating their customers like the enemy. They see themselves a a gatekeeper, whose most attractive offering is the service of 'not getting in your way' which they portion out sparsely and at great cost.

      Incidentally, it's not just the game consumers who feel this way. Recently the head of Activision complained that the modern console market is a 'walled garden' and that he would 'aggressively support' a company that produced a livingroom-friendly PC.

    4. SuperDre
      07-23-2010
      04:15 PM
      4

      I just hope these lawsuits will mean the return of OtherOS, otherwise most people who used OtherOS are still screwed..

    5. GregoryRasputin
      07-23-2010
      04:23 PM
      5

      Originally Posted by SuperDre
      I just hope these lawsuits will mean the return of OtherOS, otherwise most people who used OtherOS are still screwed..
      At the start, i supported the people who made these lawsuits, then after about three, i started to realize, that none of the ones seeking retribution wanted the Other OS back, they simply wanted money, i wonder how many of them actually used the Other OS function.

    6. mightykhan
      07-23-2010
      11:03 PM
      6

      The first one at least sought injunctive relief, which means basically the return of otheros.

      But if they're not even gonna form a strategy for another two months, it does look like it will be all about compensation. It will be a year before anything happens at this rate. I'm still running 3.15, I'm not waiting a year before I can log in to PSN again.

      AFAIK every >3.15 fat ps3 with an intact otheros partition should be capable of booting it - if you can only get to the boot flag somehow from XMB.

    7. KillerBug
      07-24-2010
      03:09 AM
      7

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      At the start, i supported the people who made these lawsuits, then after about three, i started to realize, that none of the ones seeking retribution wanted the Other OS back, they simply wanted money, i wonder how many of them actually used the Other OS function.
      That is a rather narrow view. The fact is, trying to get a court order to make Sony return OtherOS would be almost impossible, and even if you got it, you would still have the issue of Sony messing with OtherOS to make it useless, rather than returning it in the original glory. It is time to accept the fact that OtherOS is gone. All that can possibly be done now is litigation, with the goal of hurting Sony financially to the point that they will at least think twice before doing this again.

      Also, let us not forget that there are a lot of expensive lawyers involved here. These guys are not going to go through all the trouble simply to get OtherOS back; they are doing it for lawyer fees.

      I would love to get OtherOS back, but I am not dumb enough to think that will happen. All I can hope to do is to send a message to sony that it is not OK to remove advertised, working features from a device after sale...and the only way that Sony pays any attention to their customers is when it affects their bottom line. All of these cases are class action. That essentially means that the person that brought the suit will be required to go though a lot of BS, spend a lot of time giving depositions, waiting for court times, etc. Because of this, the plaintiffs might get a few dollars more than the non-plaintiffs...but not enough more to cover the cost of gas, time off work, etc. One thing is very clear: these plaintiffs are not in it for the money.

    8. GregoryRasputin
      07-24-2010
      06:01 AM
      8

      Originally Posted by KillerBug
      That is a rather narrow view. The fact is, trying to get a court order to make Sony return OtherOS would be almost impossible, and even if you got it, you would still have the issue of Sony messing with OtherOS to make it useless, rather than returning it in the original glory. It is time to accept the fact that OtherOS is gone. All that can possibly be done now is litigation, with the goal of hurting Sony financially to the point that they will at least think twice before doing this again.

      Nothing is narrow about it, when you sum up all they ask for, you see the fact is, all they care about is money.

      Oh and your Other OS is gone, mine isnt, so i dont have to face up to any fact

    9. SuperDre
      07-24-2010
      10:47 AM
      9

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      Oh and your Other OS is gone, mine isnt, so i dont have to face up to any fact
      But you do have to face up to the fact you can't play new PS3 games, or play (some) online games anymore.. So no matter what Sony screwed us big time..

    10. GregoryRasputin
      07-24-2010
      10:49 AM
      10

      Originally Posted by SuperDre
      But you do have to face up to the fact you can't play new PS3 games, or play (some) online games anymore.. So no matter what Sony screwed us big time..

      Ill just save up and buy a pre owned Slim PS3, Sony wont make any profit from it either.

    11. SuperDre
      07-26-2010
      02:16 AM
      11

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      Ill just save up and buy a pre owned Slim PS3, Sony wont make any profit from it either.
      But they already sold that Slim....

    12. madshaun1984
      07-26-2010
      02:20 AM
      12

      Originally Posted by SuperDre
      But they already sold that Slim....
      It's kind of obvious if they already sold it they made some profit from it, but by buying a preowned console, sony wont be getting any further profit from that sale. Until the new owner goes onto the ps store and buys games that is.

    13. KillerBug
      07-28-2010
      03:33 AM
      13

      Originally Posted by madshaun1984
      It's kind of obvious if they already sold it they made some profit from it, but by buying a preowned console, sony wont be getting any further profit from that sale. Until the new owner goes onto the ps store and buys games that is.
      Actually, that is one less used unit available, and one more new unit that someone else will buy.


      Sony only cares about money. To make them care about anything, you have to make them feel it in a financial way. Those who are suing Sony would be very lucky to break even after everything is all said and done, and they will have to invest a lot of time and their own money just to get to the point that they may or may not break even. If these people were in it for the money, then they wouldn't be in it...because it is not a profitable venture, it takes a long time, and it involves a lot of work. Yes, the lawyers are in it for the money...but that is how they make all their money, so it is hard to blame them for charging to do their job...do you think Sony's lawyers work for free?