• PS3 Hacks , 20.08.2010

    Unless you have been sleeping under the rock for the last 24 hours, you most likely heard about PSJailbreak modchip which allows backups to be booted on PS3. Demonhades and SKFU provide their thoughts on PSJailbreak below:




    SKFU (via Blog)

    I just tested the software they uploaded and can confirm it works so far.

    I can tell a bit about the backup manager. It seems the software uses bd_emu features to manage the backups. The HDD to use, should have a modified bd emu format, which sets all backups on first position, so the PS3 detects ‘em all. Then you can choose the image to boot via the manager.

    To directly copy and boot a game, the software would need to decrypt all layers on the fly. Meaning it decrypts all executables somehow, else it won’t run. Even on a debug unit.

    The hardware look like a copy of the original PS3 jigstick, used in SONY service centers to repair broken PlayStation3 SKU’s. Someone internal leaked or sold a stick, so they had the chance to reverse and clone the hardware.

    The stick should boot before the normal firmware does, so it’s hard to patch it. Maybe SONY could update the bootcode to prevent it, set it to a revoke list.

    By the way, in all videos they use debug PS3′s to run the software. There is no video showing the actual process booting on a retail PS3 afaik. So I do not confirm that this is true, yet!

    If it’s as true as it looks this time, good job guys!

    Demonhades(via Blog)

    Well I see that recently raised a stir is mounted by a chip of course to load backups from a pendrive, at first glance one might say it’s fake if we did not know of studies conducted years ago and let us see many more hidden things that not all users can understand, in this case we speak of the card jig, the jig is used by the card sony sat for maintenance and restoration in ps3.

    In short, this jig card has been removed from the payment sony sat.. so now try to expand the money spent only and once recovered the money spent in obtaining this device the reproduction and cloning of the device will be imminent.

    When I saw the body of the above, first I noticed that the sample vsh known and used parts of a debug.. and of course if one is launching retail which does not make much sense, could only think one way quickly- THE CONVERTER RETAIL TO DEBUG.

    This converter is thought to sony and service for devs have this jig card (aka USB dongle), allowing this USB is that:

    Releasing the boot ini dev_usb0 and a sequence of buttons that change the state of syscon as we launch the initial boot usb dongle, then interprets the bootstrap and load the necessary files from the dongle itself temporarily leaving the ram doing a false reboot.

    According to the store have told the seller, no residue on the PS3.. so it fits the above description.

    The idea is quite clear gentlemen, emulates the fw of trm syscon and we have a debug interprets loading the kernel debug and providing all the features to debug vshmain time, this results in loading unsigned code.

    This allows us as I mentioned months ago to launch pkgs from ubs, since it has a browser for managing them.

    The official BDEMU disk loading before you activate the mediatype BD and then run the loader to the channel of communication with the real reader would be closed and only would use the BD-emu, emu and the bd can not share the same channel communication.

    In this case to remove the layer is used to extract cellftp to an external source of filesystems without pre-decoded and converted to debug layer.

    Executables can be created with the sdk, and generated their own loader which removes the layer of encryption (this if it will extract the discs, not linux), then the PS3Gen (published as a matter of 1 month) can be create iso patched with valid soft.esto itself mean that everything is made in the PS3 SDK (emulators, applications, etc) will be loaded without problems, as we are doing the same as the 360 with jtag hack it uses a core debug.

    The loader is loaded by the execution path that recognizes the actual application manager, loaded via app.

    TRUE GENTLEMEN OF THE NEWS WOULD BE A GREAT TIME AND NEWS bad news… Let me explain:

    1. NO SERIOUS WORK DONE BY HACKERS OR RESEARCHERS.

    2. MATERIAL IS MADE LIKE THE MAGIC BATTERY FOR PSP WITH SONY TOOLS.

    In short, PS3 has fallen to the very tools you use in your SAT Sony… that if Sony can plug it into the next update.. just have to cancel the initial boot usb to close the bar, because the boss is syscon.

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  • 96 Comments

    1. devil hunter
      08-20-2010
      12:08 PM
      1

      thats what i was looking for , thanx pirate. However , they mentioned that once you patch it

      you cant roll back to the default status , but there is no write process ,it is just some data run

      from the dongle ? can you explain that please ?

    2. SniperSnake
      08-20-2010
      12:12 PM
      2

      the part about how all the videos are made with debug consoles is wrong, the dongle is adding a few debug menu options to the xmb....geez if they were all playing on true debug consoles then how did they do it befor richdevx patched the manager.pkg to run on true debug consoles? ****ing common sense people

      also i have never heard of a slim ps3 debug unit and there is a vid of a ps3 slim running teh jail break

    3. GregoryRasputin
      08-20-2010
      12:23 PM
      3

      Originally Posted by SniperSnake
      the part about how all the videos are made with debug consoles is wrong
      SKFU stated that not long after the news broke, i think his views will be different now.

    4. martin-c
      08-20-2010
      12:26 PM
      4

      Originally Posted by SniperSnake
      the part about how all the videos are made with debug consoles is wrong, the dongle is adding a few debug menu options to the xmb....geez if they were all playing on true debug consoles then how did they do it befor richdevx patched the manager.pkg to run on true debug consoles? ****ing common sense people

      also i have never heard of a slim ps3 debug unit and there is a vid of a ps3 slim running teh jail break
      No^^ There are 2 vid's of ps3 slim running the Jailbreak
      Here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xei...eak_videogames
      and
      Here: YouTube - PS Jailbreak PS3 Modchip Video Guide HD :: Checkout PS Jailbreak Here!

    5. konangrit
      08-20-2010
      12:26 PM
      5

      By the way, in all videos they use debug PS3's to run the software. There is no video showing the actual process booting on a retail PS3 afaik. So I do not confirm that this is true, yet!
      Maybe this quote is old, but the latest video from Ozmodchips shows it on a slim, AFAIK debug PS3s don't come in that form factor.

      Edit: a bit late with that lol

    6. Pockets69
      08-20-2010
      12:32 PM
      6

      Originally Posted by SniperSnake
      the part about how all the videos are made with debug consoles is wrong, the dongle is adding a few debug menu options to the xmb....geez if they were all playing on true debug consoles then how did they do it befor richdevx patched the manager.pkg to run on true debug consoles? ****ing common sense people

      also i have never heard of a slim ps3 debug unit and there is a vid of a ps3 slim running teh jail break

      Finally someone that says something that makes sense this is not being played on debugs!

      don't know if you have seen it or not but some of you are asking for game play here it is.

      http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xei...t=1#from=embed

    7. FantmN0de
      08-20-2010
      12:32 PM
      7

      yes ther are slim debug units as one has been sold on ******* in thepast month

    8. illogic
      08-20-2010
      12:34 PM
      8

      Yeah ps3 slim test units do exist.

      Based on what Demonhades stated this is actually pretty lame. Nothing was hacked, someone simply leaked the dongle and it is now being cloned. Making the manager.pkg was the only real work that was done.

    9. gersrt
      08-20-2010
      12:38 PM
      9

      I think it was established long before now, that nothing was hacked.

    10. Pockets69
      08-20-2010
      12:46 PM
      10

      Originally Posted by illogic
      Yeah ps3 slim test units do exist.

      Based on what Demonhades stated this is actually pretty lame. Nothing was hacked, someone simply leaked the dongle and it is now being cloned. Making the manager.pkg was the only real work that was done.
      Thank you captain obvious -.-'

    11. illogic
      08-20-2010
      12:53 PM
      11

      haha whatever. I confirm that slim debug units exist and state my opinion (that this is f**king lame). no need for your bs comment

    12. Pockets69
      08-20-2010
      12:56 PM
      12

      Ok...

      (10 characters)

    13. gersrt
      08-20-2010
      01:03 PM
      13

      And its lame just because nothing has been hacked.........ok

      Its a working solution so who the **** cares

    14. GregoryRasputin
      08-20-2010
      01:04 PM
      14

      Ok guys behave.....

    15. gliitch
      08-20-2010
      01:33 PM
      15

      We finally have something that looks ligit, its what we have all been waiting for. The way it works is pretty sweet.[Blockbuster anyone? XD] I cant wait for the files to released as a download, so we can make our own. As i am not paying for something that will be free. anyways.

    16. konangrit
      08-20-2010
      01:49 PM
      16

      Source for PS3 Slim debug please.

      When PS3 internals were reduced in size enough for Sony to release the slim it enabled them to fit the debug hardware in a PS3 phat shell, which they released not long after the slim.

      PS3 hasn't seen any drastic internal size reductions since then, so I don't see how the debug hardware could fit inside a PS3 slim shell.

    17. gliitch
      08-20-2010
      01:55 PM
      17

      Well we got this far, so not long to go if its true. Ive put the pkg file on a usb ...and well nothing (yes i know it wouldnt do anything) What if used the JIG files we already have, and copy them over... ?

      Looks like the Power on- eject is a trigger much like how Power on - R1 was for the pandora battery...

    18. FantmN0de
      08-20-2010
      02:09 PM
      18

      sorce for TEST Slim

      here is the page on ps3 news that was selling
      a Slim TEST ps3

      Code:
      http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rg-NVp1p6TAJ:www.*******.com/forums/buy-sell-trade/ps3-test-debug-slim-unit-120gb-111693.html+%22ps3+TEST%22+slim+unit&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
      as ps3 news is having issues iam not able to download the attachments
      but they do prove its a slim TEST unit

    19. konangrit
      08-20-2010
      02:44 PM
      19

      I don't go to that spyware infested site, and don't particularly trust their news either, but will search the FCC site to see if there has indeed been a slim dev unit released.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Well, I searched the FCC database and no new Dev units have been submitted since the PS3 phat form factor DECR1400A.

      I checked the Google cache of the link you gave, at only 350 it sounds like a scam to me.

      The latest Dev unit:

      DECR1400A





      The original Dev Unit:

      DEHR1000





      I just don't see how they can fit it all inside a slim case.

      More photos and manuals available at the above links.

    20. Pockets69
      08-20-2010
      04:16 PM
      20

      There are no slim dev units, just revisions of the phat one that came out when the slim was already out.

    21. GregoryRasputin
      08-20-2010
      04:27 PM
      21

      Originally Posted by konangrit
      I don't go to that spyware infested site, and don't particularly trust their news either, but will search the FCC site to see if there has indeed been a slim dev unit released.

      He didn't mention a dev unit, he mentioned test unit/debug unit, they are different:


      PS3 Test Unit/debug unit.
      DECHA00J/DECHA00A Similar to CECHA00, for debugging PS3 software.
      DECHA007J/DECHA007A Similar to CECHA00, for debugging PS3 software.
      DECHJ00J/DECHJ00A Similar to CECHJ00, for debugging PS3 software.
      DECH-2000A PS3 Slim version.
      DECH-2500A Bigger harddrive.
      DECH-S2500A For shows.


      PS3 Tool Unit/Dev Unit/Refernce tool
      DECR-1000/DECR-1000A 2 400GB Harddrives
      2 HDMI output
      4 LAN ports (1 for Debugging)
      Analog audio outputs
      VGA output

      DECR-1400J/DECR-1400A
      Later model that resembles a consumer PS3 Released March 23, 2009
      1 HDMI output
      2 LAN ports (1 for Debugging)
      512MB System RAM
      256MB RSX



      EDIT:
      All Slim

    22. SniperSnake
      08-20-2010
      05:05 PM
      22

      ok i call fake now, all the videos are fakes they are just playing a video on the ps3 making it look like its doing stuff j/k

      lol, this thread is now about the validity of slim ps3 dev/debug/test/tool/demo ps3s? wow.

      ps jailbreak is real the dongle is a reverse engineered sony jig kick stick, i love how the hackers are trying to reverse engineer the reverse engineered..... i just hope there is a DoItYourself method of making and flashing a dongle

    23. denero1
      08-20-2010
      05:14 PM
      23

      ok i call over priced, seriously 100 dollars a pop is ok but other then that

    24. devinger
      08-20-2010
      05:15 PM
      24

      everytime demonhades does something good he has to ruin it by posting something silly on his blog. Like his psjb conspiracy theorie Lets not pay to much attention on that post.

    25. konangrit
      08-20-2010
      05:18 PM
      25

      OK, my mistake.

    26. gliitch
      08-20-2010
      05:34 PM
      26

      Im sure soon enough, someone will release a program that will flash ordinary usb sticks, to make them into Dev/JIG sticks. The flashing lights are just 3 LED's timed to switch when the process is complete, much like how an ordinary usb flashes when information is being read or written to.

      So i dont think there is anything special about the stick in question, just the files. Im guessing if all goes well, we should have our own little sticks by christmas time :D Or just like the psp, where you had to lift the pin maybe the soldered underneath one of the pins to kick start the debug mode?

      Also didnt someone say you have to have the jig stick in just with retail consoles not debug?

    27. Mattr92
      08-20-2010
      05:52 PM
      27

      Originally Posted by gliitch
      Im sure soon enough, someone will release a program that will flash ordinary usb sticks, to make them into Dev/JIG sticks. The flashing lights are just 3 LED's timed to switch when the process is complete, much like how an ordinary usb flashes when information is being read or written to.

      So i dont think there is anything special about the stick in question, just the files. Im guessing if all goes well, we should have our own little sticks by christmas time :D Or just like the psp, where you had to lift the pin maybe the soldered underneath one of the pins to kick start the debug mode?

      Also didnt someone say you have to have the jig stick in just with retail consoles not debug?
      Christmas thats crazy! More like in a few weeks planetade has released some more pics which makes me believe more that you can just take a regular usb and throw some files on it.

      http://planetadejuego.com/uploads/me...s/DSC03226.JPG

      The chip is soldered a certain way (They suck at soldiering for $170 it should be flawless) And you can't see in this pic but theirs a 102 smd resistor which could just be for the led. But if you guys are wanting to make your own I think you might ned to bust out the soldering iron or wait for the Chinese knock off.

    28. Pockets69
      08-20-2010
      06:06 PM
      28

      Guys we are paying for 4 years of a machine not being hacked, if this jig leaked 6 months after the release of the ps3 it would be priced at 50$ at best lool. lets wait for it to be released, in the upcoming weeks it will be hacked, clones will be made if that can't be hacked and will sell for half a price or better.

    29. konangrit
      08-20-2010
      06:15 PM
      29

      Yes, there doesn't seem to be anything special hardware wise about the jig.

      jig Vs standard USB flash;

    30. Mattr92
      08-20-2010
      06:18 PM
      30

      Originally Posted by konangrit
      Yes, there doesn't seem to be anything special hardware wise about the jig.

      jig Vs standard USB flash;

      The quartz crystal might be different but no one knows for sure right now.

    31. qwssop
      08-20-2010
      06:36 PM
      31

      If you are asking SKFU and DemonHades on an an opinion on this you clearly need help. I don't understand why you just don't beat your head against a wall, you're likely to get less misinformation and bull**** extrapolation and a lot more facts.

      These scene panderers have done nothing but stack traffic and dangle false expectation in front of people.

      I can tell you that I am no where near fully grasping the work Mathieulh, Disane, Geohot and the rest of the real ps3 devs have pulled out, but I can tell you I'm a million miles ahead of bull****ters like SKFU and DemonHades.

      Getting an opinion form these peeps on the jig is like asking Lady Gaga what she thinks of the Afghanistan invasion.

      Get a ****ing clue.

    32. gliitch
      08-20-2010
      06:43 PM
      32

      ha @ the last part. XD. @ Mattr92: What i meant was the we will all have it by x mas, as in it will be common place, not the release :D sorry for the misinformation Also for 170 the soldering would be machined not by hand. it could also be where the people who opened it have scratched it?

    33. KrisAbsinthe
      08-20-2010
      06:54 PM
      33

      I dont have time right now but later I want to try several methods of writing the debug/test Firmware to a USB drive and doing the power-eject method. Wondering what magic is at work. I would try using rawrite to to the MBR (after setting up the stick to have one) with the test FW. I have a few other ideas ill try later on.

    34. Mattr92
      08-20-2010
      06:59 PM
      34

      Originally Posted by gliitch
      ha @ the last part. XD. @ Mattr92: What i meant was the we will all have it by x mas, as in it will be common place, not the release :D sorry for the misinformation Also for 170 the soldering would be machined not by hand. it could also be where the people who opened it have scratched it?
      Ya it looks to me like its glue and or a little melted, and DemonHades must be doing some crazy meth thinking that Geohot is behind this and his picture on his blog doesn't seem to be the psjailbreak at all.

    35. gatz85
      08-20-2010
      07:03 PM
      35

      i have noticed that when it is turned on in the requied method that my stranded sandisk flashes as if it is being accessed just a heads up and another thought try to make BD iso very small and rewrite the cd portion of the sandisk with BD iso with the self files for service mode or the debug firmware more thoughts

    36. gliitch
      08-20-2010
      07:08 PM
      36

      @ Mattr: whos picture,geos or demonhades? Its plausible, just because geo has "left the scene" doesnt mean he wont give up trying in private, afterall he posted loads and look where that got him, and the bombardment of comments... : \ Its like saying just because you dont hear from a band for years (TOOL) doesn't mean they stop producing music, they are just working on stuff.

      So who ever did this we have a lot to be thankful for :D

    37. SniperSnake
      08-20-2010
      07:16 PM
      37

      i think peopel are confusing the word jaikbreak and geohot together. who knows mabe he does have a part in this and doesnt want sony coming down on him?

    38. denero1
      08-20-2010
      07:18 PM
      38

      welp i betta cut my wifi off sony will sure try to stop this

    39. $n!pR
      08-20-2010
      07:23 PM
      39

      Dongle is not a standard usb flash drive:

      Originally Posted by Mathieulh
      @marcan42 It's not a regular pendrive, it's a jig dongle and it appears somewhat protected, I'd bet they have a fpga or a cpld in there

    40. gatz85
      08-20-2010
      07:34 PM
      40

      here is a post i ran across witch makes me think that a softjig might be plosible in the furture again looking at the talk seems to me there a hidden partion just like all those autoplay thumb drives out there now.
      xiaNaix
      Administrator

      Join Date: Jan 2002
      Location: Detroit
      Posts: 1,154
      I can confirm a couple of things.

      1. FAT32 is currently supported. They are working on NTFS.

      2. They recommend staying on current firmware and not updating until they have deemed it safe. The dongle is fully updatable.

      3. Online play does work but they cannot guarantee that it will work with all future titles.

      4. Final retail units are ready to ship.

      5. Official reseller list will be on the site in the next 48 hours. You can pre-order from any of the official resellers.
      __________________
      Evil PSX-SCENE Admin

    41. gliitch
      08-20-2010
      07:48 PM
      41

      @ Mr Snake man guy XD. I dont think geo made this. I think they picked the name because of the iPhone, and well you know what jailbreak meeeaaans XD hehe. Personally i wish they called it something more original. like ps3Pandora XD at least then there is nothing to get confused about.

    42. Mattr92
      08-20-2010
      07:58 PM
      42

      Ya the name is just because everyone is familiar with it those usb's have to cost under $20 to make and ship they must be making BIG profits of this of this. but that will be shattered when its leaked

    43. gliitch
      08-20-2010
      08:08 PM
      43

      The Oz company will be shut down, due to going out of business, once the free version is made. the only reason they are selling it for so high, is because the JIG files are Sony property, and god knows how it got out, probably by some pissed off employee.

      Ah sweet sweet irony, how i love thee. PS3 taken down by its own creators.

    44. konangrit
      08-20-2010
      09:04 PM
      44

      Originally Posted by gliitch
      The Oz company will be shut down, due to going out of business, once the free version is made.
      I wonder how they've managed to survive all these years before PSJailbreak appeared ...

    45. gliitch
      08-20-2010
      09:13 PM
      45

      they probably only just popped up, speaking of jig files, i found Lv2diag.self and PS3DAT.PUP on different site, could we use these? id put them up for upload but i dont know how to or from what ive read, its probably not a good idea i do so XD but i hope im on the right track...

    46. konangrit
      08-20-2010
      09:56 PM
      46

      They've been around for a few years. I'm sure the release of PSJailbreak has no bearing on whether they stay in business or not, there are plenty of mods for all the other systems that they've been selling and will continue to sell.

    47. Mattr92
      08-20-2010
      10:03 PM
      47

      Originally Posted by gliitch
      they probably only just popped up, speaking of jig files, i found Lv2diag.self and PS3DAT.PUP on different site, could we use these? id put them up for upload but i dont know how to or from what ive read, its probably not a good idea i do so XD but i hope im on the right track...
      I saw those two :P if that ps3updat is the file needed then all thats needed to do is mod a usb stick like they did and find out how to properly format it.

    48. tcmkenny
      08-20-2010
      10:12 PM
      48

      im curious about the previous leaked jig files too, i remember reading that they couldnt use the files because they lacked the software to run with it. Would this psjailbreak manager be such software?

      im sure with what we already have and this new addition im sure the devs will create something free for us all

    49. Mattr92
      08-20-2010
      10:21 PM
      49

      Originally Posted by tcmkenny
      im curious about the previous leaked jig files too, i remember reading that they couldnt use the files because they lacked the software to run with it. Would this psjailbreak manager be such software?

      im sure with what we already have and this new addition im sure the devs will create something free for us all
      It lacked the hardware needed the manager is just the program they made to make and run the backups.

    50. sonicjam
      08-20-2010
      10:32 PM
      50

      the next step is creating the homebrew that will make the jig permanent then doing it every time or use it to do research on the ps3 that will help to find flaws on the xmb and hypervisor for exploits.

    51. gatz85
      08-20-2010
      10:39 PM
      51

      Ok i'm now putting a quest out there for all. my theory is that there is sub part in on the drive hidden( think of a sandisk cruzer with out the actual storage device storage, aka the 4 gig or so.just the small cd part). that is then loaded with a raw file (possible the pup file for debug mode ). the drive format might be a similar to the magic stick(like the one need for a Pandora battery). and then when the PS3 is triggered with the proper sequence, it loads the file firmware off the usb drive. the man chip still might be kinda important for the fact the chip only holds one file system and that there is no storage of course. and the light seem like a stranded HDD light and if the ps3 was pulling the firmware from the usb it would locked in use wouldn't u think. so you get a steady light. so again just going off info that i can find to my limits, but these are just an ideas on how i think the chip works. so if im wrong correct me please becuase with more info the faster we can make the darn thing

    52. gliitch
      08-20-2010
      10:39 PM
      52

      The PS3DAT.PUP file is the firmware in which the base runs on. there are several PS3.PUPs due to the numerous amounts of firmware releases. the other file is for Debugging Lv2 there is a TXT file as well just detailing what is going on.

      Im sure with the amount of research that is going into this, we should have something by the end of the week most likey. My years of waiting for homebrew having finally meant something :D

    53. tcmkenny
      08-20-2010
      10:58 PM
      53

      Originally Posted by Mattr92
      It lacked the hardware needed the manager is just the program they made to make and run the backups.
      oh ok so it all still comes down to figuring out this jig then. it wont be overnight but im sure it wont take too long for a breakthrough

    54. proskopos
      08-21-2010
      04:52 AM
      54

      i just send a email to OZMODCHIPS if the jailbreak works on retail units ans the send this to me:
      Our customer support team personnel has replied to your support request #426182

      ----------Start Msg-----------

      hello
      its a retial unit

      so demonhades is wrong that is only working on debug units!!!!

    55. gliitch
      08-21-2010
      06:54 AM
      55

      Why would they spell "retail" incorrectly? either way, its good we have got this far, now there is bound to be a PS3 scene afterall :D and a pretty decent one at that :D

    56. proskopos
      08-21-2010
      06:58 AM
      56

      after they send me again email and they said that it works on retail
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      im from greece and my uncle is working for sony!!!i asked him yesterday if he knows about this and he said yes!!!he also said that this usb was taken inside from sony and that is very difficult now to stop the piracy!!!he said also they will come out with a new firmware but if only we update then jailbreak will not work!!!he also told me that this usb is upgradable......thats all

    57. sonicjam
      08-21-2010
      07:28 AM
      57

      Originally Posted by proskopos
      after they send me again email and they said that it works on retail
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      im from greece and my uncle is working for sony!!!i asked him yesterday if he knows about this and he said yes!!!he also said that this usb was taken inside from sony and that is very difficult now to stop the piracy!!!he said also they will come out with a new firmware but if only we update then jailbreak will not work!!!he also told me that this usb is upgradable......thats all
      lol well i'm not updating my ps3 from 3.41

    58. rainrix
      08-21-2010
      07:48 AM
      58

      Originally Posted by sonicjam
      lol well i'm not updating my ps3 from 3.41
      Then you wont be using PSN anymore, unless someone comes up with a custom firmware.

    59. ricardoG
      08-21-2010
      08:44 AM
      59

      new video:

      YouTube - MOV00B.avi Consolewinkel.nl

    60. spec8320
      08-21-2010
      08:51 AM
      60

      Sorry for my curiosity but do anyone order this ? Is it 100% sure ?

      One question:

      This is doing backup on your Playstation 3 hard drive or on additional plugged for example pendrive etc.

    61. ricardoG
      08-21-2010
      08:53 AM
      61

      yes this work 1000000000000% look at the menu of this video it isn't a debug firmware. Because I don't see a install map (the dongle isn't activated)

    62. spec8320
      08-21-2010
      08:58 AM
      62

      This is doing backup on your Playstation 3 hard drive or on additional plugged for example pendrive etc. ?

    63. devinger
      08-21-2010
      09:03 AM
      63

      he said he has tested around 50 games, and almost evry one of them work!

    64. spec8320
      08-21-2010
      09:12 AM
      64

      but still I'm interested where are this game stored ? (and where is the cheapest chip ?)

      And what mean this almost :P ?

    65. devinger
      08-21-2010
      09:49 AM
      65

      Originally Posted by spec8320
      but still I'm interested where are this game stored ? (and where is the cheapest chip ?)

      And what mean this almost :P ?
      on the internal hdd and an extrenal. He tested in on 2 ps3's. I guess some he copied to his external hdd had files above 4gb (like read dead redemption). Fat 32 can't handle that. I don't know where to find the cheapest yet but already heard of shops selling it for 99 dollar.

    66. spec8320
      08-21-2010
      09:59 AM
      66

      any link to this 99$ ?:D

    67. gliitch
      08-21-2010
      10:41 AM
      67

      Another thing, say if we get the dongles (buy them or otherwise) and make a backup of a game via this backup manager, and install it to the ps3 HDD.

      Then make up a backup of the HDD via the actual backup system we are given by Sony, would it copy the game? If so, that would mean we would be able to transfer games across to other areas, once we have figured out where everything is stored.

      The legit Sony backup program copies across data we install via swap magic for emulators too :D So, its just an idea, that could well work...

    68. Mattr92
      08-21-2010
      10:55 AM
      68

      I wonder if you can install games from the psn store for example if someone got into a beta and downloads it on the proxy and shares the link then anyone can download it to their pc throw it on a usb and run it.

    69. aries2k
      08-21-2010
      11:37 AM
      69

      Originally Posted by gliitch
      Another thing, say if we get the dongles (buy them or otherwise) and make a backup of a game via this backup manager, and install it to the ps3 HDD.

      Then make up a backup of the HDD via the actual backup system we are given by Sony, would it copy the game? If so, that would mean we would be able to transfer games across to other areas, once we have figured out where everything is stored.

      The legit Sony backup program copies across data we install via swap magic for emulators too :D So, its just an idea, that could well work...
      Intersting idea. Im also curious if they get backed up.

      Im also wondering about a few things. Can debug units be downgraded to a lower FW?
      Im also wondering about homebrew. Right now you need the official SDK to make programs right? Is it possible that in the future their could be a homebrew SDK, like for the ps2 or psp? This way the programs would no longer be illegal to post.
      Also the Backup Manager program can be considered the 1st homebrew app, right? I know it was made with the official sdk but that program didnt exist before or was it already a program for the dev kits?
      Anyway backups are great but Im really looking forward to massive homebrew straight from the XMB.
      In theory we could have a ps2 emulator and Linux running from the game os, I think. Isnt Linux possible both on the Wii and 360? Im not really up to date with those console and homebrew, although I own a Wii.
      The real advantage for me right now with the abilty to play from hdd is the fact that I would save the laser on my precious ps2 BC PS3.

    70. gliitch
      08-21-2010
      11:59 AM
      70

      @aries2k: I think debug units can be downgraded although im not exactly sure. Although, the guys who did the NAND flash (i forget the name) they downgraded their ps3s so for a dev unit to do it, is plausible. As they have more permissions than those retail locked ones.

      Im not sure of the legality of the sony apps if someone made a Homebrew SDK wouldnt that still be illegal? I cant wait to play my bought games on the HDD, that would be just pure awesomeness. There is a way to use Linux on teh 360 via the King Kong exploit, although i dont know if they do that anymore.

      Having Linux run from the GameOS (as it would boot into Linux anyway) is doable, as its just a switch that they have turned off. Im sure the dev ps3's can still access it - somehow. I dont know why Sony dont let us copy our legit games on to the console rather than having to go through all this?

      But hey, at least we get homebrew now, would be nice if it was free, now :D I have tried making a Jig Stick with the 3.41 PUP + Lv2diag.self files. But no dice, all it did was take a little longer to boot up. Yeah it would save the laser tooo. Long time no seeeee XD

    71. Pockets69
      08-21-2010
      02:34 PM
      71

      hi glitch.

      yes dev units can be downgraded, but we don't know if what we got there is a full debug or not, we only see the install pkg (like the debug) but no other options were shown.

      If you would build your own SDK i guess it wouldn't be illegal, but i am not sure about it, the hack to run linux, lets put it this way run Shell and then run linux, that was used by the king kong hack is not anymore its on the jtag hack itself (its a diferent form of the king kong hack the same hack but triggered in a different way) so yeah we can still boot linux.

      and your idea is really good Gliitch.

    72. coiledserpent
      08-21-2010
      03:20 PM
      72

      This is great for the scene big time!
      Looking forward to the next week or so
      to see how this all pans out.

    73. gliitch
      08-21-2010
      03:58 PM
      73

      @Pockets 69: I guess we will only know if its a full debug mode if someone can get a hold of this jig stick and scroll down to the end of the XMB- it should then show extra options, but until then, as you say we dont know.

      Oh the JTag hack where you have to add a few resistors, and solder some bits or something like that, my memory is a bit shady as i came out of hospital a few months back.

      Im guessing that putting the jig files on to the USB and booting was a good idea? I reckon we are almost there, i think im missing the last piece of the puzzle and thats how the USB stick is formatted...

      In ext3 maybe? A) its linux so no wonder windows cant find it.. and B) PS3 supposedly doesn't support EXT3 but for recovery it may well do, as it is very stable, one of the most stable file formats out there... that being said, Linux would have picked it up, perhaps it comes up as unformatted in GParted, could well be hidden, or formatted with different file systems to house different parts of the files.... part ntfs to put one file in, and ext3 or whatever it is to put the other file.. so thats why we can only see part of the disk... Oh another idea, try formatting it to the PS2 filesystem?

      To test my theroy out, i am going to boot the ps3 into recovery mode, and use a EXT3 formatted disk with the PUP on there and in the correct Folder sequence i'll see what happens..

    74. Mattr92
      08-21-2010
      04:04 PM
      74

      @gliitch I wish that was the case that you could throw some files on the usb and put an ipl on it like the psp , but unfortunately its an MCU so a regular flash drive isn't going to work.

    75. Pockets69
      08-21-2010
      04:10 PM
      75

      Originally Posted by gliitch
      @Pockets 69: I guess we will only know if its a full debug mode if someone can get a hold of this jig stick and scroll down to the end of the XMB- it should then show extra options, but until then, as you say we dont know.

      Oh the JTag hack where you have to add a few resistors, and solder some bits or something like that, my memory is a bit shady as i came out of hospital a few months back.

      Im guessing that putting the jig files on to the USB and booting was a good idea? I reckon we are almost there, i think im missing the last piece of the puzzle and thats how the USB stick is formatted...

      In ext3 maybe? A) its linux so no wonder windows cant find it.. and B) PS3 supposedly doesn't support EXT3 but for recovery it may well do, as it is very stable, one of the most stable file formats out there... that being said, Linux would have picked it up, perhaps it comes up as unformatted in GParted, could well be hidden, or formatted with different file systems to house different parts of the files.... part ntfs to put one file in, and ext3 or whatever it is to put the other file.. so thats why we can only see part of the disk.
      Yes thats it, damn there is a video somewhere of someone running it before installing the jig (no install pkg on game menu) and after with the jig installed but i didn't watch it, and i can t remember where i saw it.

      no i don't think its 3rd extension file system, it might be a custom file system, but hell who in his right mind is going to try to dump anything using windows, this has to be done in linux with a snifing tool.

      Edit 1

      ok found the video its on this very thread, but anyway he doesn't show the machine before as someone said, still there are no videos scrolling through the other options of the XMB, but i have been thinking if we install the hybrid debug firmware and then, use this dongle, we might be able to get all debug functions what you guys think?

    76. gliitch
      08-21-2010
      04:49 PM
      76

      @ Pockets: So there is no, *Install Files folder on the game menu? I dont think anyone will, but ive read somewhere that the jig is not recognized by any OS i wish they would use the dd command and turn the files that it spits out into an ISO file, then we can read it

      the problem with the hybrid debug is that we risk bricking our consoles, but if you are ballsy enough to do so, then well im sure we could give it a try.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by Mattr92
      @gliitch I wish that was the case that you could throw some files on the usb and put an ipl on it like the psp , but unfortunately its an MCU so a regular flash drive isn't going to work.

      Ah crap, so trying to homebrew our own Pandora(yes i know its called PSJailbreak, but it sounds crap) sticks wont work? there must be something we can do? Apart from wait

    77. Mattr92
      08-21-2010
      05:07 PM
      77

      @gliitch

      Well you can find out who makes the "ps jailbreak" call up the company then social engineer them to send you the schematics. ( I would go with the lawyer approach as these Chinese companies are always afraid of law suites.)

    78. gliitch
      08-21-2010
      05:11 PM
      78

      With what backing? The phone call alone would cost a fortune. I'll do some googling see if that brings anything up, im sure the blueprints are bound to be around somewhere...

    79. Pockets69
      08-21-2010
      05:17 PM
      79

      Not that easy most international laws have no legal ground (i don't know how to say this lol but i think you get what i mean) in china.
      And the blue prints aren't anywhere, our only chance would be the angry foxcon employee XD
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by gliitch
      @ Pockets: So there is no, *Install Files folder on the game menu? I dont think anyone will, but ive read somewhere that the jig is not recognized by any OS i wish they would use the dd command and turn the files that it spits out into an ISO file, then we can read it

      the problem with the hybrid debug is that we risk bricking our consoles, but if you are ballsy enough to do so, then well im sure we could give it a try.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************



      Ah crap, so trying to homebrew our own Pandora(yes i know its called PSJailbreak, but it sounds crap) sticks wont work? there must be something we can do? Apart from wait
      About the install pkg feature disregard my comment, it was just me taking for granted a post from a noob two pages back sorry. there is an install pkg, and it appears when you start the machine with the jig.

    80. gliitch
      08-21-2010
      05:23 PM
      80

      I was gonna say, there are folders already there when you boot it up, BEFORe the second usb is even put in. no worries dood. Within a week or so, we hope to have our backups running :D without paying the over bloated fee. Im not gonna ring china but i'll try my damedest to get this ball rolling :D

      Regarding the foxconn employee, we did get the files didnt we? .. so it cant be that hard besides in a week or two it wont matter :D

    81. Pockets69
      08-21-2010
      05:28 PM
      81

      i dont care for the backups only for homebrew but yeah i don't want to pay that kind of money, if in any way the jig can't be cloned/dumped well i guess we will have to pay for it or wait, talking about wait, STILL no stance from sony on this issue XD caught out of the blue just like the rest of us XD

    82. rhynor
      08-21-2010
      05:32 PM
      82

      I was thinking this, maybe just ringing up the ozmods place and asking about the usb ( as if you looking to buy one) they are bound to know more then us, seen as they actually have the usb dongles.
      just ask questions like 'am i paying for the files on the usb, or the actual usb, .......is it just a standard usb?'
      put them on the spot like a reporter
      might get some worthwhile knwoledge out of it

    83. gliitch
      08-21-2010
      05:42 PM
      83

      @Pockets: well I want legal backups, not the ones i didnt pay for. :D but home brew oh god yes, homebrewwwwwwww!!! XD Yeah i think they are sh*tting their pants right now, or as soon as it goes on sale to the public XD @ ryhnor, sounds like a plan there, superman XD.

    84. Pockets69
      08-21-2010
      05:48 PM
      84

      XD lolol at sony for ****ting theyr pants! :P

      anyway OZmods could be viable solution, but they are in the scene to they know, our doubts so they might not answer anything, i just would like to know if the jig only gives you the ability to install pkgs or gives you a full debug that would be my question!

      So who is making the call... :P

    85. rhynor
      08-21-2010
      05:48 PM
      85

      yeah someone, ring ozmods bearing in mind its an australian number, the number on the website is (03) 98 172 172

      just ask some questions on what the actual usb contains, i dont see why they wudnt give the details of the usb with a bit of persuasion and assertivness. If you just make out you are going to buy one, im sure they will.

    86. Pockets69
      08-21-2010
      05:53 PM
      86

      Seeing as I am in Portugal there is no way i am making that call, but an Australian user here on the forum could.

    87. gliitch
      08-21-2010
      06:05 PM
      87

      Im from the UK, so i cant make it. But yeah, a Aussy could :D Anyone here from Australia?

    88. Mattr92
      08-21-2010
      06:09 PM
      88

      Skype = $12 a month for Unlimited calls worldwide

    89. rhynor
      08-21-2010
      06:13 PM
      89

      From the looks of the place on street view on google maps, it just looks like a little shop, if we call them up they might reveal some useful knowledge if we ask nicely enough, again just act like you going to buy one and are curios about how it works.


      there address is.... 1137 Burke road, Kew, VIC 3101

    90. konangrit
      08-21-2010
      06:16 PM
      90

      I doubt Ozmods will be able to tell you much more than they already have. Besides, it's Sunday now, so save yourself the cost of a call

    91. rhynor
      08-21-2010
      06:19 PM
      91

      Originally Posted by konangrit
      I doubt Ozmods will be able to tell you much more than they already have. Besides, it's Sunday now, so save yourself the cost of a call
      they sell various bits of tech on their website so they might know a thing or two

    92. konangrit
      08-21-2010
      06:21 PM
      92

      They're closed on Sundays anyway.

    93. Pockets69
      08-21-2010
      10:58 PM
      93

      ^^ already posted

    94. senas78
      08-22-2010
      12:52 AM
      94

      @ Pockets69: Wheres the link to that tread?

    95. pig098
      08-22-2010
      04:41 AM
      95

      dammm i cant wait.

    96. gliitch
      08-22-2010
      07:10 AM
      96

      Its all well and good having dumps of the games, but with the dump of the usb stick i dont think we wont be able to run them.And if they that "it has a special chip" is true, then we will have no other alternative but to buy the USB stick, that is if Sony doesn't get its way and stop production. :thefinger: thats what id give to Sony XD