• PSGroove modified to Backups without BluRay Disc inside

    PS3 Hacks, PSGroove , 21.09.2010

    Hermes from Elotrolado.net has released a modified payload of PSGroove that allows you to run PS3 backups without the need of a BluRay disc inside the PS3! However, we need to have Backup manager also modified to work with the new payload in order to enable booting backups without an original disc. But this is only a matter of time (smell a custom backup manager soon?).

    To quote:

    Taking advantage that I have my AT90USBKEY, I used the disassembly of the payload (made by me), the descriptions in ps3wiki.lan.st and part of AerialX source, with the following objective:

    1) Have a damn once the source of the exploit, with amendments, etc, enough is enough for us to pass an array and pulling miles.

    2) I used to make some changes, with a very interesting result.

    The first thing to tell, is that the payload is loaded into a memory area (700 000) and ends up turning part of your code into an area that is too full . Just add four things we can and in fact, for my change I had to relocate a table with patches (do not think you are having problems in the position you are).

    The second is that I managed to enable the burden of backups with the amendment introduced AerialX by his side, in order to launch applications from a flash drive (HDD) attached on / dev_usb000 (of the four ports, which is more to the right, in my case). My directly AerialX code did not work and removed much of what makes this load backups.

    The fact is that you can put in root folder PS3_GAME with the appropriate structure (see the readme.txt of the package) to launch a EBOOT.BIN selecting the menu “/ app_home/PS3_GAME”

    But it is not here: thinking that this could throw the EBOOT.BIN of a game, I thought about making a communication, so that by granting syscall36 (or directly, as I saw it), could “see” game to launch in “/ apps_home/PS3_GAME” when no disc.

    Surprisingly, it works. I do not know if there are games that are problems or not, but I’ve tried, they all without having to have the disc.

    The problem is that the original manager asks you to drive before launching game balls, but the manager does not have to do anything that can run games, except set the path of the game by syscall 36.

    In doing so, memory is allocated to a pointer, which is what I use to switch between “/ apps_home/PS3_GAME” to launch an application without installing the console (same in development) or redirect the game to run.

    This is a string of code development and here I’ll upload the full psgroove with lufalib and my modifications, the source of the payload is ready to compile. If you are a using a PIC, you just have to change the payload (replacing the array of payload. H that is generated when compiling and also provide) and have no space problems, or anything else, because it takes what same

    Short Summary:

    If you have not understood a word, this is a thread of development which is offered as a heading, the code that makes the “magic” disassembled and modified to provide a way to run homebrew without installing on the console and on the other hand, load your backups using that trick, they do not need a disc in (the bad is that it requires a new manager or patch the old hard not to ask to leave)

    [Download PSGroove-NoBluRay]
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    Thanks to nu1mlock for the news tip.

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  • 50 Comments

    1. mike2732
      09-21-2010
      07:50 PM
      1

      Yes! I was just hoping for this as I have a PS3 with a dead blu-ray

      GOGOGO custom BM!

      Good work!!!!!!

    2. dodo815
      09-21-2010
      08:00 PM
      2

      thats what i was waiting for thx man

    3. nu1mlock
      09-21-2010
      08:04 PM
      3

      Now I only need to wait for the fork to get ported to HTC Hero. Not that I need it, my BD-drive works fine, but it's always fun to have the latest. :P

    4. esj
      09-21-2010
      08:05 PM
      4

      This is Excellent news

      Nice work Hermes and everyone at Elotrolado
      you guys rock :D

      Thanks.

    5. zol007
      09-21-2010
      08:31 PM
      5

      I remember Hermes from ps2 scene. talented.

    6. Fugitive
      09-21-2010
      08:31 PM
      6

      this is great now i'll be even lazier and wont have to put a disc in lol. really tho, great work

    7. maniakmach
      09-21-2010
      08:39 PM
      7

      Oh man this is great. After all the crap I went through gettin the hack to work from htc hero(when I had no knowledge of rooting , custom roms and flashing) my disc tray only sometimes wants to suck the disc in.
      So this is great news! Thnx dude!

    8. ghostnik11
      09-21-2010
      08:59 PM
      8

      I would like to say great job and I wanted to know with this new method of running our backups will we be able to get the updates to load onto the backups. Or will we have to try and go edit files to get updates for games to work with backup manager, instead of getting an error.

      P.S: I don't know if this question was asked before but with updates for games, I don't understand why they won't work on backup manager that loads the exact game that the update is for, or is it the fact that the actual disc that is in the disc drive is where the ps3 puts the update information for the game and sees that the backup manager is another type of game while the game in the disc drive might be different.

    9. ShadowDweller
      09-21-2010
      09:01 PM
      9

      I changed the path in the makefile.payload file. I can't get it to compile. Anyone else try to recompile this?

    10. lernatix
      09-21-2010
      09:20 PM
      10

      Am I the only one that's sick of turning the PS3 off then on at the switch (or pulling slims power cord) only to press power and eject and watch the disc that was left in there come out and having to repeat the bootup process? Can't wait for this!!!

    11. FirebirdTA01
      09-21-2010
      09:38 PM
      11

      As scary as this may be when looking at the piracy possibilities this is still very good news. Consider the people that can finally get a use out of their ps3's with bad bluray drives/faulty lasers.

    12. condorstrike
      09-21-2010
      09:43 PM
      12

      alright.....
      every day is a better day for the scene.

    13. limatime42
      09-21-2010
      10:04 PM
      13

      Originally Posted by lernatix View Post
      Am I the only one that's sick of turning the PS3 off then on at the switch (or pulling slims power cord) only to press power and eject and watch the disc that was left in there come out and having to repeat the bootup process? Can't wait for this!!!
      You don't actually have to repeat the bootup process, you just have to put the disc back in. Unless I'm reading your post wrong...

    14. kazoo52
      09-21-2010
      10:10 PM
      14

      has this been compiled for the ATMEGA32U4 chip (teensy 2.0)?

    15. Klaxxon
      09-21-2010
      10:15 PM
      15

      Originally Posted by limatime42 View Post
      You don't actually have to repeat the bootup process, you just have to put the disc back in. Unless I'm reading your post wrong...
      That is what he is annoyed about, his disc popping out. :P

    16. OPTICS
      09-21-2010
      10:25 PM
      16

      YEEEEESSSS!!!! My PS3 stopped reading bluray discs almost 2 years ago. Now... all I need is iPhone or PSP port to jailbreak it....

    17. calnorak
      09-21-2010
      10:43 PM
      17

      yes, this is a new tool most will probably use this for piracy, but it is a definite boon for those with the faulty lasers that are outside warranty :D
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by lernatix View Post
      Am I the only one that's sick of turning the PS3 off then on at the switch (or pulling slims power cord) only to press power and eject and watch the disc that was left in there come out and having to repeat the bootup process? Can't wait for this!!!
      for me i did that accidentally one and it still booted into the groovy mode, so now I don't care since it doesn't matter

    18. BobbyBlunt
      09-21-2010
      10:47 PM
      18

      Originally Posted by OPTICS View Post
      YEEEEESSSS!!!! My PS3 stopped reading bluray discs almost 2 years ago. Now... all I need is iPhone or PSP port to jailbreak it....
      There is an Iphone port and no there is no psp port coming so dont hold your breath.

    19. OPTICS
      09-21-2010
      10:54 PM
      19

      Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt View Post
      There is an Iphone port and no there is no psp port coming so dont hold your breath.
      Yeah, I should've been more specific, I meant iPhone 4.

    20. Silaum
      09-21-2010
      11:23 PM
      20

      is this tool workin with other boards? can i install that groove in blackcat usb? 10ks

    21. Vain
      09-21-2010
      11:40 PM
      21

      Great news. I have 2 PS3s with dead BD drives and one that's working fine in the livingroom. Now I can finally put them in each of the bedrooms, network them up and not have to worry about them. Great job cant' wait.

    22. lernatix
      09-21-2010
      11:59 PM
      22

      Originally Posted by limatime42 View Post
      You don't actually have to repeat the bootup process, you just have to put the disc back in. Unless I'm reading your post wrong...
      Oh, now I feel stupid again.

      Originally Posted by Klaxxon View Post
      That is what he is annoyed about, his disc popping out. :P
      That too. Are you the same Klaxxon that used to upload a LOT of stuff to mininova before it got "silenced"?

    23. ietomit
      09-22-2010
      01:34 AM
      23

      If I where Sony and someone disassembled the entrails of my baby, i'd sure be foaming at the mouth. I mean lets face it its like your appendix that bluray drive. The lens gets screwed up after some x hundred hours and if your out of warranty ur screwed. Do you think that Sony couldnt have made the PS3 with out it. We all download our sh1t anyway, might as well do it with games and movies, be they bluray quality or not.

    24. Srachi
      09-22-2010
      02:56 AM
      24

      This is good news as i have a ps3 with damaged blu drive

    25. KingBacana
      09-22-2010
      04:49 AM
      25

      Hey Guys

      will this work without a blue ray matching board?
      i know the ps3 without blue ray drive and also no blue ray board will not boot backup manager or ninja ftp.

      just a black screen?

      we need to find a way around the blue ray board key check??

      even a working blue ray drive without a matched blue ray board wont boot it.

      so a blue ray board is very important ..!

      any tests????

      thanks :thefinger: ( the finger is a thumb by me )

    26. marc751
      09-22-2010
      06:21 AM
      26

      This is what i been waiting on i give thanks to you gods of the ps3

    27. 2n2upt
      09-22-2010
      07:57 AM
      27

      Originally Posted by mike2732 View Post
      yes! I was just hoping for this as i have a ps3 with a dead blu-ray

      gogogo custom bm!

      good work!!!!!!

      same, best news of the day!!! Yay!!!!

      Hope Brandon updates TI with this :>

    28. prodmaster100
      09-22-2010
      08:38 AM
      28

      This is great news, I seriously hope they update the iPhone 3G Linux PSFreedom with this, it would be total ownage, and does anyone know what's going on with Backup Manager 1.1?

    29. marc751
      09-22-2010
      09:03 AM
      29

      Have anyone tried this with the TI or have knowledge of this on how to

    30. AsSiTcH
      09-22-2010
      09:13 AM
      30

      Originally Posted by marc751 View Post
      Have anyone tried this with the TI or have knowledge of this on how to
      hasnt been ported to it yet.

    31. devon_1
      09-22-2010
      09:56 AM
      31

      :aetsch:


      I love this news
      Can't wait for this to be ported to the NOKIA N900


      :thefinger:

    32. longhornx
      09-22-2010
      12:42 PM
      32

      will launch a version for TI-84+?

    33. 2n2upt
      09-22-2010
      01:15 PM
      33

      Originally Posted by longhornx View Post
      will launch a version for TI-84+?
      I guess yes :D

    34. jackieboy8
      09-22-2010
      02:28 PM
      34

      Thx was needed this for a friend who has 2G PS3 Fat 40GB with burned mainbord so the BD player works only its not connected to mainbord anymore. But now can play on USB. Works on Blackcat USB! (teensy 1.0) ****162

    35. longhornx
      09-22-2010
      02:35 PM
      35

      Originally Posted by 2n2upt View Post
      I guess yes :D
      great

      And for now just need a way to do this without a external device :D

    36. 2n2upt
      09-22-2010
      03:25 PM
      36

      Here we go :D

      http://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_backu...unidad_1490982

    37. ALDONUM1
      09-22-2010
      03:59 PM
      37

      I'm using PS Freedom on my HTC Desire to attempt to boot backups. Do I need to wait for a port of this before I can use it on my PS3 with a broken disc drive? I know very little about these things sorry.

    38. 2n2upt
      09-22-2010
      04:01 PM
      38

      Originally Posted by ALDONUM1 View Post
      I'm using PS Freedom on my HTC Desire to attempt to boot backups. Do I need to wait for a port of this before I can use it on my PS3 with a broken disc drive? I know very little about these things sorry.
      You have to wait for a port to your device with this version of Hermes

    39. Srachi
      09-22-2010
      05:26 PM
      39

      Originally Posted by KingBacana View Post
      Hey Guys

      will this work without a blue ray matching board?
      i know the ps3 without blue ray drive and also no blue ray board will not boot backup manager or ninja ftp.

      just a black screen?

      we need to find a way around the blue ray board key check??

      even a working blue ray drive without a matched blue ray board wont boot it.

      so a blue ray board is very important ..!

      any tests????

      thanks :thefinger: ( the finger is a thumb by me )
      Im interested in this me too cause my blu drive is completly death, wont even take discks inside. So im eagerly wait for a way to boot backups without the drive. Anyone know if this new groove works with death drives?

    40. luciansm
      09-22-2010
      06:25 PM
      40

      waiting for the dingoo port of this version.

    41. 2n2upt
      09-22-2010
      07:34 PM
      41

      TI-84 port just released :D

      http://psx-scene.com/forums/showthre...347#post528347

    42. krieg747
      09-22-2010
      08:46 PM
      42

      Not being very tech saavy, I am a little confused about the psgroove hex download link.

      What exactly is the psgroove.hex in the rar compatible with? I use an AT90USB162 board, and I dont want to attempt to flash my device with this hex file just in case it is not compatible.

    43. AsSiTcH
      09-22-2010
      09:08 PM
      43

      Originally Posted by luciansm View Post
      waiting for the dingoo port of this version.
      Well your post certainly added a lot to this thread.....

    44. enohand
      09-22-2010
      09:11 PM
      44

      i tried recompiling on my Incredible, but no go yet....ive seem to hack up arydanes code pretty bad....but all in all....i think ill get it....i am also trying to fix the bug with his file (doesnt allow SD card acces, wifi, or usb charge) ive managed to get wifi back, but cant get the other 2 or groove with BUM 2.0 to work...

    45. TheTroll
      09-23-2010
      04:07 AM
      45

      Hi,

      any idea why this error ?


      /home/storage/ps3/hermes/psgroove-hermes$ make
      make[1]: entrant dans le répertoire « /home/storage/ps3/hermes/psgroove-hermes »
      /usr/local/ps3dev/ppu/bin/ppu-gcc -c port1_config_descriptor.S -o port1_config_descriptor.o
      port1_config_descriptor.S: Assembler messages:
      port1_config_descriptor.S:195: Warning: left operand is a bignum; integer 0 assumed
      port1_config_descriptor.S:201: Warning: left operand is a bignum; integer 0 assumed
      port1_config_descriptor.S:202: Warning: left operand is a bignum; integer 0 assumed
      port1_config_descriptor.S:203: Warning: left operand is a bignum; integer 0 assumed
      port1_config_descriptor.S:204: Warning: left operand is a bignum; integer 0 assumed
      port1_config_descriptor.S:206: Warning: left operand is a bignum; integer 0 assumed
      port1_config_descriptor.S:210: Warning: left operand is a bignum; integer 0 assumed
      port1_config_descriptor.S:213: Warning: left operand is a bignum; integer 0 assumed
      port1_config_descriptor.S:216: Warning: left operand is a bignum; integer 0 assumed
      port1_config_descriptor.S:643: Warning: left operand is a bignum; integer 0 assumed
      port1_config_descriptor.S:645: Warning: left operand is a bignum; integer 0 assumed
      port1_config_descriptor.S:647: Warning: left operand is a bignum; integer 0 assumed
      port1_config_descriptor.S:649: Warning: left operand is a bignum; integer 0 assumed
      port1_config_descriptor.S:195: Error: reloc 1 not supported by object file format
      port1_config_descriptor.S:201: Error: reloc 1 not supported by object file format
      port1_config_descriptor.S:202: Error: reloc 1 not supported by object file format
      port1_config_descriptor.S:203: Error: reloc 1 not supported by object file format
      port1_config_descriptor.S:204: Error: reloc 1 not supported by object file format
      port1_config_descriptor.S:206: Error: reloc 1 not supported by object file format
      port1_config_descriptor.S:210: Error: reloc 1 not supported by object file format
      port1_config_descriptor.S:213: Error: reloc 1 not supported by object file format
      port1_config_descriptor.S:216: Error: reloc 1 not supported by object file format
      port1_config_descriptor.S:643: Error: reloc 1 not supported by object file format
      port1_config_descriptor.S:645: Error: reloc 1 not supported by object file format
      port1_config_descriptor.S:647: Error: reloc 1 not supported by object file format
      port1_config_descriptor.S:649: Error: reloc 1 not supported by object file format
      make[1]: *** [port1_config_descriptor.o] Erreur 1
      make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /home/storage/ps3/hermes/psgroove-hermes »
      make: *** [all] Erreur 2

    46. curryworst
      09-23-2010
      12:11 PM
      46

      anyone know when they gonna make a n900 version of this? my fried drive is making my ps3 dusty!!

    47. AsSiTcH
      09-23-2010
      12:24 PM
      47

      Originally Posted by curryworst View Post
      anyone know when they gonna make a n900 version of this? my fried drive is making my ps3 dusty!!
      3.5 days from now

    48. yuco91
      09-23-2010
      01:27 PM
      48

      there are information and/or progress about the HTC devices version ?

    49. AsSiTcH
      09-23-2010
      01:30 PM
      49

      Originally Posted by yuco91 View Post
      there are information and/or progress about the HTC devices version ?
      Have you read the site for any news?

    50. yuco91
      09-23-2010
      01:32 PM
      50

      Originally Posted by AsSiTcH View Post
      Have you read the site for any news?
      I did not understand, sorry