• PS3 Hacks, PS3 Legal (Sony) , 25.02.2011

    In addition to the raid looks like Sony, SCEE is also suing Graf_Chokolo for a big 1 Million Euros for the release of all the “HV Bible”…but that doesn’t scare graf, he is still motivated to work on his PS3 developments.

    To quote VIA his blog:

    graf_chokolo says:
    February 25, 2011 at 7:22 am

    Back :-) I don’t have a PC at home now guys, so i will post here only when i’m able. I will try to answer all your questions about HV and installing Linux. But expect some delays because as i said i don’t have access to the Internet all the time.

    You know guys, you will say i’m totally crazy now, but i never slept better
    than in the last 2 days :-) I don’t know how to explain this feeling but
    i don’t care about those threats with jail and high money penalties, btw, SONY wants about 750.000 euros from me if i don’t cooperate :-) They don’t know me at all :-) I don’t care about it and they might double it :-) The higher is the sum the higher gets my motivation :-) They don’t understand what makes me tick. Money and even my life doesn’t mean to me very much without knowledge. I have a scientific mind and the knowledge is food to my brain. Without HV, Linux and FreeBSD kernel hacking my life is meaningless.

    I miss my HV terribly :-) In the last 2 days i got so “hungry”
    for more knowledge that i cannot control it anymore. I need knowledge and research, it has a huge meaning in my life. Jail or even death cannot hold it back anymore.

    The SONY’s laywer asked me why i’m doing what i’m doing, because of my hatred for SONY ? He cannot understand why i’m doing it, because he is paid for what he does. I’m not. I don’t hold a grudge against SONY even now :-) Hatred clouds your mind, keeps you from more important things. I have a better use for my mind and knowledge :-)

    So, SONY you failed again, you took my equipment but my mind is still free and you canot control it. You failed again. They are just tools, i can get new ones and will continue my HV reversing and bringing back PS3 Linux which you took from us. If you want me to stop then you should just kill me because i cannot live without programming, HV and Linux kernel hacking :-) You know who am i and where i live, so come and get me !!! :-)

    And to prove it, i will reopen right now my HV reverse engineering page :-) And i will post my latest findings about Update Manager and BD drive here. Most of you know already that i was able to update CORE OS from Linux. And on the last weekend i tries to hel some PS3 devs with BD drive authentication and discovered some interesting stuff about it which i will post here.

    And please guys, could someone post here a link to the latest version of my cloned Linux kernel. I need it. The last week i implemnted a updater for Linux and it was finished but the police got first before i could upload it. But do not fear, i have everything in my head :-) I can write it down again and show you how it works.

    And the folks over at PS3Crunch also got a legal letter for demanding removal of the HV Bible files, you can see the legal document here.
    Also the Math’s PS3Wiki is back online under a different server and ownership and can be found HERE.

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  • 81 Comments

    1. lernatix
      02-25-2011
      06:04 AM
      1

      750,000 what? Bottlecaps? How in god's green earth has trying to reinstate Linux cost $ony 750,000EU? Just another reason to boycott their products from now on.

    2. samson
      02-25-2011
      07:27 AM
      2

      its true.. i found a better link to graf's comment:
      http://grafchokolo.com/ps3-developme...4/#comment-690

      legal notice on graf's files:
      http://ps3crunch.com/wp-content/uplo...mir-Ariff2.pdf

      also the lan.st/ps3dev wiki is back up:
      http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

    3. Pockets69
      02-25-2011
      10:19 AM
      3

      well i guess he means 750€? 750.000 is money that no one has to pay sony LOL

      I would say go go graf, but **** the guy is saying some dumb things, "you better kill me sony?" what hell graf? you sound like an extremist, be careful, just lay low for a while now.

    4. robg1983
      02-25-2011
      10:38 AM
      4

      Sony is dumb, they really think they can scare people with their money scare tactics? If I get sued for a million dollars I'll just file for bankruptcy. What now Sony???

      http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/sonypsn/

    5. FH7
      02-25-2011
      10:40 AM
      5

      just shows his intent to publish tpm circumvention to sony, their lawyers and courts. this guy is seriously going to get it as he continues to release things even after his pc's were seized!

    6. Insanewolf
      02-25-2011
      10:43 AM
      6

      Serously, what is he gonna get, some jailtime and that will be it, and probably he will get out earlyer for good behaviour. They wont serously expect him to caugh op all that money.

    7. xDarkkXXXXX
      02-25-2011
      10:49 AM
      7

      lmaoo
      1.000.000 = 1 million
      1,000,000 = 1

      Look at the dots and the ,'s
      like 1:2 = 0,5
      1 x 1000= 1.000

    8. gliitch
      02-25-2011
      10:51 AM
      8

      HOly cheese and crackers! Graf is just ...just pure awesomenes!! We need more fearless devs like him! XD 1 million ..thats insane!! Graf is so close to unlocking the whole of the PS3 system, hence why sony is suing for so much, they are also running scared.

      When the system is unlocked [for us normal users] In the imortal words of NSync - Bye Bye Bye. XD The PS3 has been blown open and has already invited piracy, which sony doesn't like. I really don't think Sony can fix this one.

      Hugs go out to graf, you hard ass!! :D Keep on doing what youre doing ^_^ Epic man of epicness :D

    9. Qraze1
      02-25-2011
      10:51 AM
      9

      thats a great man right there, i love ya Graf and never back down!

    10. willchop
      02-25-2011
      10:53 AM
      10

      all the more reason to start releasing things under the name anonymous

    11. Joel
      02-25-2011
      10:55 AM
      11

      graf your so cool!

    12. yigga
      02-25-2011
      10:57 AM
      12

      one million �

      thats a lot of dough

    13. reno5gtt
      02-25-2011
      10:59 AM
      13

      It's not illegal to look for flaws in software and share your findings, especially since the PS3 has credit card details, personal info etc. Problems would never get fixed if nobody looked for them.

      There are just pissed that a few random guys managed to take down all the security when they probably spent millions making it hacker proof. Why they not going after the pirate groups posting unreleased games on the net or those making money offering hard drives full of games.

    14. advocatusdiaboli
      02-25-2011
      11:02 AM
      14

      Originally Posted by yigga
      one million �

      thats a lot of dough
      Not in Neverland.

    15. domatas
      02-25-2011
      11:03 AM
      15

      Balls of rhenium diboride...

      It's not about the money....
      it's about...sending a message

    16. ark3typ3
      02-25-2011
      11:04 AM
      16

      http://www.woodmann.com/crackz/Tutorials/Dong_law.htm

      Poor guy, I wish him luck as he's one of the few scene hackers I truly respect. In Germany, it's pretty cut and dry that circumventing security keys on a system is illegal. Hopefully they don't succeed, but it's not looking promising for him unless, I dunno....maybe backing from a local university and say he was doing research on....new hypervisor technologies and their security? (lol, it's a stretch, I know)

      hackers are necessary, without them we wouldn't need them, but since we have them, we do.

    17. sobanek
      02-25-2011
      11:05 AM
      17

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Information_Act

      ??

    18. null_Dereferenced
      02-25-2011
      11:05 AM
      18

      Just more scare tactics and strong arming.

      But seriously, how does $ony get such cooperation from the police? I witnessed an accident directly outside of a police station/court house before and it still took 30 minutes for an officer to get to the scene!! Yet $ony can easily get the police to raid someone's house?

      There is no way though that they are going to prove that Graf caused a million euros in damage to their company. I'm sure Graf will have support if he sets up a donation fund for lawyer fees like what Hotz did.

    19. Wolfie708
      02-25-2011
      11:07 AM
      19

      Originally Posted by xDarkkXXXXX
      lmaoo
      1.000.000 = 1 million
      1,000,000 = 1

      Look at the dots and the ,'s
      like 1:2 = 0,5
      1 x 1000= 1.000
      Errrr........... Comma's are used for a single amount or number, full stops are used to destinguish between different sets of numbers in a string.

      1,000,000 = One Million
      1/2 = 0.5 (One over Two equals a half)
      1 x 1000 = 1,000
      1:2 is generally used as a ratio, ie One Third

      Sorry for being so picky, but you did lyaoo (laughed it off twice?)

      As to Graf, well done, but tone down the "killme" stuff a tadge please lol.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by null_Dereferenced
      Just more scare tactics and strong arming.

      But seriously, how does $ony get such cooperation from the police? I witnessed an accident directly outside of a police station/court house before and it still took 30 minutes for an officer to get to the scene!! Yet $ony can easily get the police to raid someone's house?

      There is no way though that they are going to prove that Graf caused a million euros in damage to their company. I'm sure Graf will have support if he sets up a donation fund for lawyer fees like what Hotz did.
      Sadly money and ignorance carries a Lot of weight. Sony have the money and they are using peoples ignorance of what homebrew actually is and telling everyone it really has only one purpose....... Pirating.

    20. japsander
      02-25-2011
      11:11 AM
      20

      it seems to me that sony are going after anyone who may, in their eyes have had a relation to PSJB.

      either that or they are so pissed at not having caught them, that they feel the need to take it out on anybody.

      what did graf_chokolo do/release that directly cost sony the amount of damages they are demanding?

    21. ark3typ3
      02-25-2011
      11:14 AM
      21

      Originally Posted by willchop
      all the more reason to start releasing things under the name anonymous
      Or just get better at obfuscating your identity through your tag. Twitter, Facebook, email accounts. These all have information about you as a person, if you let one little bit slip then they have information they can track you on. If you make your gmail account your tag and then you put in your first and last name BAM found, if you make a fake email but authorize it through your real email, BAM found, if you use said fake email to register for sony and sony subpoenas your email provider BAM found. If you do all your work through your real IP instead of proxifying BAAAAAAM, you get the idea.

      The good ways: untraceable tag, proxifying, public internet access/neighbors wireless + MAC spoofing (if you're on your laptop), encrypted partitions on thumb drives <-- tried and true methods minus security cameras that may be able to identify you. yeah, it's a pain, but the security is soooo worth it.

    22. advocatusdiaboli
      02-25-2011
      11:15 AM
      22

      Originally Posted by japsander
      it seems to me that sony are going after anyone who may, in their eyes have had a relation to PSJB.

      either that or they are so pissed at not having caught them, that they feel the need to take it out on anybody.

      what did graf_chokolo do/release that directly cost sony the amount of damages they are demanding?
      You might be right, but I wonder why Sony does not go after their own employees that was the initial source of all this.

    23. Damien4lbPlant
      02-25-2011
      11:17 AM
      23

      why should he tone it down. he got raided for playing with a toy. the ps3 is a toy and its sad that americans are wasting tax dollars over this bull****. hey graf i got coolstuff.rar but you said you needed the newest kernal? not sure which one this has. lemmie know and ill upload. because i think we need to get rid of all currency anyway. its the cancer that will kill us all. w/e you need graf. lemmy know and ill try to find it. i dont give a **** either because I DONT OWN a ps3. I DO SUPPORT the scene tho as i got a psp and USED to have a ps3 yrs ago(i had to sell it cuz i was low on cash, wish i didnt have to tho) I'm no developer, and dont own a ps3 so i dont think I'll get raided. I AM WILLING to keep any files on a external drive(my cell phone lol it has alot of space on my micro sd) for anyone that needs someplace to put something without worrying about sony takin their hdd's so pm me or email and ill be more than happy to be a kind of storage space or back up files for the scene.

    24. advocatusdiaboli
      02-25-2011
      11:18 AM
      24

      Anyone into doing releases should use https://www.torproject.org/ or similar projects.

    25. Damien4lbPlant
      02-25-2011
      11:19 AM
      25

      You might be right, but I wonder why Sony does not go after their own employees that was the initial source of all this.-advocatusdiaboli
      ^this x1000 thats what i said when all this first started happening, they need to fire/sue the ones that lied to them about the random number generator not really being random

    26. djsolutions
      02-25-2011
      11:26 AM
      26

      viva la revolution!!!!!!!!!!

    27. lisapower
      02-25-2011
      11:34 AM
      27

      i Love you Guys, All the Power to the Hackers & Dev's.

    28. Wolfie708
      02-25-2011
      11:39 AM
      28

      Originally Posted by Damien4lbPlant
      You might be right, but I wonder why Sony does not go after their own employees that was the initial source of all this.-advocatusdiaboli
      ^this x1000 thats what i said when all this first started happening, they need to fire/sue the ones that lied to them about the random number generator not really being random
      Well they probably have done something, but they won't admit it anyways as it's just another way to say "Oooops, we ****ed up", and we all know they are perfect so they would never say that LOL

    29. dave4321
      02-25-2011
      11:39 AM
      29

      Makes me shake my head in astonishment .......... but it seems ok for them to take thing from me and all they say is upgrade fw or **** off .

      Best of luck ......just dont pay fony a penny ever !

    30. Tycool959
      02-25-2011
      11:45 AM
      30

      If you're reading this Graph, wwell
      Read on please

      Ok, I will help you out in some thing like reciving you're info back, I have ALL/ FULL BACKUP Of you're Info From Lunix kernal v/2,6 to hv bible (which im seeding at 100/kb everyday )
      If you need help , Im here.
      Sony can't touch me or my macbook <3 cause
      im under the majoirty age in my province , im in canada :P
      and I DONT GIVE A fck about sony they can kiss my black ass,..

      so if u need help! im here
      this is my email.
      [email protected]

      Like i said, Need someone to give you back you're info I got it.

    31. Damien4lbPlant
      02-25-2011
      11:46 AM
      31

      yup like someone suggested. use TOR great ip proxy-spoofer proggy. i got external storage too i can always keep files on and then keep at a friend/relatives house so if they raid me. they wont find anything and thay cant search the whole town for it. ill just say i dont have em anymore(they search my apt and find nothing)...and I'll laugh and laugh...and laugh

    32. tech3475
      02-25-2011
      11:50 AM
      32

      I am surprised they go after someone who is trying to restore OOS (which THEY stole from users), but not the people making the actual backup loaders which CAN be used for piracy.

    33. RiPPERD
      02-25-2011
      11:55 AM
      33

      WOW!!!

      thats deep lol

      glad to see someone standing up to PONY tho rather than just running and hiding...

      you wont win the war if its 1 person vs SCE{X} we all wanted the work of these hackers/programmers... we all used the stuff.... now the time has come for us to stand up and fight this stupid company that seems to think it rules the world...

      wheres tesco when you need them lol tesco seem to be takin over the world too...

      but anyway... all these hackers need get 2getha and stand up to pony maybe compare each others work... and release something to really make sony S**T themselves!

    34. depblkman
      02-25-2011
      12:01 PM
      34

      Do you think that Sony is going to raid all of us? there are millions of us. they don't have that much money to take all of us down. Sony is like the Borg. "Resistance is futile". I stand with the scene. Sony should take a page from MS. Make people pay for PSN and ban those who cheat. CFW is not hurting your business. just the opposite. it's helping. Developers like Graf should be commended for their work and instead of trying to sue them into submission, Hire them but Sony, you already know what their answer is to you: :thefinger:

      Let me point out one last thing for people who are die hard sony fans: If you feel that pirating and hacking the PS3 is wrong, all of the music that you downloaded from Limewire, your friends, bearshare and on blank media, should be erased and you should go out and actually buy it. otherwise, stop being a hypocrite!!

    35. loukas77
      02-25-2011
      12:05 PM
      35

      This man is a hero to me. Lets have Rage against the machine have a live concert outsite the court he will be judged. Where are our human rights?! Freedom of speech? I'm glad that some people stand up for them. Like graf. Thank you.

      P.S.: Sony, i loved your products. I still do. But after all the things you've done, i will never buy from you again. You deserve that.

    36. FreakAlchemist
      02-25-2011
      12:18 PM
      36

      Originally Posted by gliitch
      HOly cheese and crackers! Graf is just ...just pure awesomenes!! We need more fearless devs like him! XD 1 million ..thats insane!! Graf is so close to unlocking the whole of the PS3 system, hence why sony is suing for so much, they are also running scared.

      When the system is unlocked [for us normal users] In the imortal words of NSync - Bye Bye Bye. XD The PS3 has been blown open and has already invited piracy, which sony doesn't like. I really don't think Sony can fix this one.

      Hugs go out to graf, you hard ass!! :D Keep on doing what youre doing ^_^ Epic man of epicness :D
      No gliitch he is beyond epic man of epicness now.Thats what he was when he had released the HV Bible.We have to make up a whole new word just to describe him now any ideas on what word may be?

    37. Rax909
      02-25-2011
      12:21 PM
      37

      I think Graf just became my hero. Geo can learn ALOT from Graf, but Geo is too scared. Graf has the right idea and the brains to continue.

    38. Rogerdodger91
      02-25-2011
      12:41 PM
      38

      http://www.petitionspot.com/petition...s/signatures/1

      sign my petition too please.

    39. henry caine
      02-25-2011
      12:46 PM
      39

      that like what 5 cent in dollars right

    40. enohand
      02-25-2011
      12:47 PM
      40

      so what if anything is happending to the PSJB guys? does anyone know who they are?



      also its very odd that sony is not looking inside thier orginization to find out who origiablly made ALL of this possible, They guy who leaked info that helped/assisted PSJB (or whoever that first dongle maker was) create thier dongle

    41. An_FiS
      02-25-2011
      12:56 PM
      41

      thats about 1,375,000 million dollars

    42. advocatusdiaboli
      02-25-2011
      01:23 PM
      42

      Originally Posted by enohand
      does anyone know who they are?
      No, but most likely Sony employees.

    43. scristopher
      02-25-2011
      01:25 PM
      43

      No gliitch he is beyond epic man of epicness now.Thats what he was when he had released the HV Bible.We have to make up a whole new word just to describe him now any ideas on what word may be?
      selfless-hero

    44. projectns
      02-25-2011
      01:27 PM
      44

      German Powwwwwwwer !!!!!:D:D
      GO GRAAFF
      MACH WEITER SO :D scheis auf sony

    45. advocatusdiaboli
      02-25-2011
      01:29 PM
      45

      This image represents my thoughts on this campaign in full.

      The post says USA out of the internet, translated word by word from swedish.

      Rhetoricly this is a question asking if the US are descent enough to interact with other people throught the internet.

    46. racoonfrenzy
      02-25-2011
      01:44 PM
      46

      What damaged would they be suing for? They don't lose any money for having people install linux. They Illegally removed if anything he's keeping them from another lawsuit. Its there own fault that it happened in the first place. Its like If I changed the password on someones computer and they figured it out again, Im not going to go and sue them for installing firefox, or aim on it...

      What a fraud this company has become.

      EDIT: AND THEY LEAKED THE DONGLE INFORMATION ITS THERE F***ING FAULT.

    47. ray122
      02-25-2011
      01:46 PM
      47

      This is so pathetic and embarrassing.

      All props for his contribution to the scene, I'm just refering to his post
      This sounds like a lil kid that's emotionally connected to Sony in such a strong way, like some sick stalker girl... "Nah I dont care about Sony, hence I address them in every single sentence, screaming '[CAPS] they fail at breaking me down'".

      Pure irrationality.

    48. 2die4
      02-25-2011
      02:07 PM
      48

      this is one of those


      momments and you have to decide

    49. bevve
      02-25-2011
      02:21 PM
      49

      you are a star chokolo love the you glide man keep it up!

    50. gliitch
      02-25-2011
      02:48 PM
      50

      Thats how fantastico he is ---- i can't say anything ^_^

    51. CryptoCore
      02-25-2011
      02:58 PM
      51

      Seriously? All I can say is wow. $ony needs to realize that not everyone will back down to their demands. The fight is on. DING DING. HAHA but seriously if the HV Bible gets taken off the internet, I have a copy of it so I will mirror and post that everywhere I can get my filthy little hands on. My 2 cents.

    52. ghostnik11
      02-25-2011
      02:59 PM
      52

      Sony is hilarious, how the hell do you sue someone for over million dollars when you convert the euros into dollars, when Graf is not getting paid for what he does, he is a developer who doesn't charge anyone for wanting to learn the information that he has been research. Thats like microsoft going to linux and saying I am going to sue linux b/c they are open source, while microsoft is proprietary.

      Also where the hell is the man going to get over a million dollars from in this damn economy, where no one has jobs and college graduates are even having a hard time getting a job in McDonalds much less b/c of the amount of people unemployed applying to McDonalds to try and put food on table for there families. This man has no money they ain't even going to get a penny, and i don't think you can throw some in jail b/c they can't pay, and if he does some how get put in jail it can't be for more than a couple months, its not like he killed someone and is facing manslaughter charges, all he did was do research on the hyper visor.

      Thanks for the article just shows how sony is turning into a comedian every day that goes by.

    53. Drexal
      02-25-2011
      03:01 PM
      53

      thank the gods man.

    54. bigo93
      02-25-2011
      03:09 PM
      54

      lmao, graf sure has some balls!

      But he is right, he like many of us know it is knowledge that it wealth, whilst sony believe in the evil green incarnation of the USG.

      Sony think if they can scare people by saying we can sue you for $1 million dollars, then they might as well have auditioned for Dr Evil's part in Austin Powers (i.e. when he asks for a really small ransom cos he didnt realise the change of currency due to inflation).

      Greed is one of the problems in this world and the current capitalism system and invention of money is an old system which is closing in on it's end, until we get rid of these flawed systems we will carry on living in this corrupt world.

      Also I like this pdf
      http://ps3crunch.com/wp-content/uplo...mir-Ariff2.pdf
      they only quoted US laws, isnt graf in Germany? Keep pushing show just how much other countries are under the control of the USG and corporations and why we should oppose them :P

    55. net-bulkware
      02-25-2011
      03:28 PM
      55

      When the german law graf for one million indicted then i have a idea.
      What goes around, comes around.
      as already ACDC mentioned: TNT

      i love it

    56. bigbopper100
      02-25-2011
      03:39 PM
      56

      good on u bro... just couldnt resist

    57. Evil_Intentions
      02-25-2011
      04:41 PM
      57

      I guess "Graf_Chokolo sued for 750 thousand Euros - Still Working" didn't have as much as a ring to it as 1 mil?

    58. NeedmoarDesu
      02-25-2011
      04:42 PM
      58

      "Value your freedom or you will lose it, teaches history. 'Don't bother us with politics', respond those who don't want to learn." -Richard Stallman.

    59. Shezed
      02-25-2011
      04:42 PM
      59

      LOOOOOOOL there is no way any average joe can pay 1 million even if you sue for 1 Mill if they can't pay and aren't motivated to work it off there is no way you can get it.... PURE scare tactic and if you really can't live just go shop lifting.. there is free food water and in my country even tv and internet in prison

    60. OoZic
      02-25-2011
      04:50 PM
      60

      Nice way by $ony to demonstrate the Euro is a worthless coin

      How nice it would be if the judge at the OtherOS case decides Sony has to pay every Fat console owner a million $/� for the illegal removal of a legal open source OS from the Fat PS3

    61. leary123
      02-25-2011
      05:14 PM
      61

      now that was an awsome statement

    62. mcmrc1
      02-25-2011
      05:27 PM
      62

      the � a worthless coin ?

    63. BoredUltimatum
      02-25-2011
      06:35 PM
      63

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708
      Originally Posted by xDarkkXXXXX
      lmaoo
      1.000.000 = 1 million
      1,000,000 = 1

      Look at the dots and the ,'s
      like 1:2 = 0,5
      1 x 1000= 1.000
      Errrr........... Comma's are used for a single amount or number, full stops are used to destinguish between different sets of numbers in a string.

      1,000,000 = One Million
      1/2 = 0.5 (One over Two equals a half)
      1 x 1000 = 1,000
      1:2 is generally used as a ratio, ie One Third

      Sorry for being so picky, but you did lyaoo (laughed it off twice?)
      I must interject here actually. In some European languages, German in particular, commas are used as English uses decimals and decimal points are used where commas would be. In other words, the original guy was right in that regard. 1.000.000 euros is 1,000,000 euros to English speakers/writers/readers.

    64. 315Groove
      02-25-2011
      06:44 PM
      64

      Dear Graf/Alexander,

      Please stop, your contributions to the freedom of Linux users has been most noble. We are very grateful for your work. There is a time when you must say enough though. If you hunger for the knowledge, do it for yourself and on your own. It is not worth it to continue to release the data publicly. You may not care, and for all I know, you may not fully understand what you are up against. Let those of us who would benefit from your work care for you now. As much as I would love to see unrestricted Linux access for all on the PS3, there are truly not that many of us who will use it. Please care for your self, and seek legal help. Please do not continue to do this. I am one of the very few who is still on 3.15, and is more interested in homebrew, Linux, and extended functionality on the PS3, but I beg you, PLEASE stop. Hopefully you see this here, or someone you speak with can share this message with you. As much as I don't believe what they are doing is right in this instance, please cease, those of us who are in this for Linux related reasons will not be disappointed, or hold any misgivings against you. Protect yourself and your future. You are obviously intelligent, use some logic here my friend. If the legal path opens up, we would welcome more work and info from you.

      A fellow compatriot of the digital nation of Linux and open source.

    65. ahbearbear
      02-25-2011
      07:12 PM
      65

      i'm puzzled. To build a criminal case, you need to show criminal intent. Where's the criminal intent?

      publishing how the hv works is the same as taking apart a motocycle and showing everyone how it work. If others understanding how the motorcyle works, used that knowledge to modify their motorcycle into a ultra speed motorcycle which is then used to commit robbery and outrun the police, so the person who publish the knowledge be guilty of abetting a crime?

    66. Pockets69
      02-25-2011
      07:14 PM
      66

      Originally Posted by 315Groove
      Dear Graf/Alexander,

      Please stop, your contributions to the freedom of Linux users has been most noble. We are very grateful for your work. There is a time when you must say enough though. If you hunger for the knowledge, do it for yourself and on your own. It is not worth it to continue to release the data publicly. You may not care, and for all I know, you may not fully understand what you are up against. Let those of us who would benefit from your work care for you now. As much as I would love to see unrestricted Linux access for all on the PS3, there are truly not that many of us who will use it. Please care for your self, and seek legal help. Please do not continue to do this. I am one of the very few who is still on 3.15, and is more interested in homebrew, Linux, and extended functionality on the PS3, but I beg you, PLEASE stop. Hopefully you see this here, or someone you speak with can share this message with you. As much as I don't believe what they are doing is right in this instance, please cease, those of us who are in this for Linux related reasons will not be disappointed, or hold any misgivings against you. Protect yourself and your future. You are obviously intelligent, use some logic here my friend. If the legal path opens up, we would welcome more work and info from you.

      A fellow compatriot of the digital nation of Linux and open source.
      I do understand what you mean! its not worth risking it... but hey he wants to its probably his way of saying! you can sue me try to take me down but i will always be here releasing information for everyone to use freely, the best thing we can do is support him, and help him in any way we can!
      not telling him to stop doing what he loves to do, that is my opinion!

    67. Wolfie708
      02-25-2011
      07:20 PM
      67

      Originally Posted by BoredUltimatum
      I must interject here actually. In some European languages, German in particular, commas are used as English uses decimals and decimal points are used where commas would be. In other words, the original guy was right in that regard. 1.000.000 euros is 1,000,000 euros to English speakers/writers/readers.
      Well I learn something new every day lol. Although it still does not take it away that the xDarkkXXXXX was in error as well does it?

      Although if that form is used in Germany and other places it is actually incorrect.

      One Million, one hundred thousand, and ten for example as that is where the comma usage in numbers actually derives from originally.


      Yes, I'm an arse, but I was not the one to originally pick fault and get a rise from anothers writing was I?
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by Pockets69
      I do understand what you mean! its not worth risking it... but hey he wants to its probably his way of saying! you can sue me try to take me down but i will always be here releasing information for everyone to use freely, the best thing we can do is support him, and help him in any way we can!
      not telling him to stop doing what he loves to do, that is my opinion!
      I agree wholeheartedly. I for one would not have the balls to do what he is doing by coming straight back into the firing line, but as Pockets69 says, he has a genuine passion for what he is doing and to me that is what Homebrew and hacking should be about.

      I have no problem giving assistance to Graf on this even though I have zero clue what I can offer?????

    68. OoZic
      02-25-2011
      07:40 PM
      68

      Originally Posted by mcmrc1
      the � a worthless coin ?
      Yes, as worthless as Sony

      At the introduction you pay a lot and after some years you know you paid way to much for what you actually got :aetsch: This goes for PS3 and � ....

      But this was a really of topic joke

      on topic: from the documents I saw we finally know his ful name: Alexander Egorenkov

    69. lernatix
      02-25-2011
      07:52 PM
      69

      I hope he gets 6 months community service. But then they remove 5 months of it due to time already spent serving it! D

    70. YzMENTALzY
      02-25-2011
      08:19 PM
      70

      man seriously iv had respect for all the scene hackers for ps3 and xbox or whatever console but seriously this guy is just brilliant and now he has the most respect from me from the botom of my heart keep it up bro were here for ya

    71. xfreaks
      02-25-2011
      10:41 PM
      72

      More sue more hack....:aetsch:

    72. deft21
      02-26-2011
      06:01 AM
      73

      He will care when he can't pay that money and has to rot in a prison cell sleeping real nice and close too big bubba...

    73. samson
      02-26-2011
      08:20 AM
      74

      i wonder if grafs ps3 was out of the 1 year warranty .. maybe sony doesnt support gameOS software after a year , like they do with otherOS support..

    74. mir101780
      02-26-2011
      08:56 AM
      75

      Did Sony ever say why they took away other OS? You would think with all the noise they created by doing so they would just give it back, unless there is a major security flaw in ps3 through linux, I mean it seems they only take something away when they are trying to stop homebrew.

    75. brunospfc
      02-26-2011
      09:58 AM
      76

      If Graf_chokolo and any other ps3 hacker needs to run away from their countries (the way things are going...sony may just buy the president), and needs a place to stay i give room, food and internet conection :D

      but it is in brazil so...you know

    76. drphuz
      02-26-2011
      02:07 PM
      77

      I'm all for you! Stick it to the white/asian man! Stand up for your rights!

    77. General Plot
      02-26-2011
      03:40 PM
      78

      Originally Posted by drphuz
      I'm all for you! Stick it to the white/asian man! Stand up for your rights!
      I'm just curious, what does race have to do with anything?

    78. wheelatboard
      02-28-2011
      07:21 AM
      79

      unbelievable... hopefully GRAF takes no scars from it, but maybe he is the one bringing an revolutionairy-mood to the web so things change, in what is legal and illegal...

      for me GRAF has something of a hero.

      take care of you GRAF. IF YOU CANT FIGHT YOUR OPONENT, GO AND COMEBACK STRONGER LATER-but for sure he knows about the situation

    79. robjungle
      02-28-2011
      10:57 AM
      80

      Originally Posted by xDarkkXXXXX
      lmaoo
      1.000.000 = 1 million
      1,000,000 = 1

      Look at the dots and the ,'s
      like 1:2 = 0,5
      1 x 1000= 1.000
      Not every country uses the same format as yours.

      I hope this doesn't ruin the guy's life. I thought it was disgusting that a Sony employee was actually allowed to take part in the raid on his house! How is that legal anywhere?

    80. marcel7180
      02-28-2011
      11:12 AM
      81

      *******s.Its the person which will give all the programming youngsters a motivation too;].Respect