• General , 09.02.2011

    Things can get to bad to worse this week when Sony’s own Kevin Butler re-tweeted the METLDR root key. Twitter user exiva tweeted to Kevin Butler the PS3 root key disguised as a Battleship challenge, and little to Butler’s knowledge he retweeted the entire code. The tweet has obviously been removed, but you can see the screen shot of it below:

    Maybe Sony needs to investigate Kevin Butler as an potential PS3 hacker :)

    [VIA Twitter VIA Engadget]

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  • 42 Comments

    1. IronCross1788
      02-09-2011
      01:54 AM
      1

      YES!! Ha, U rock Mr. Butler

    2. chidesd
      02-09-2011
      01:55 AM
      2

      this is pretty funny. Hope Kevin Butler doesnt get fired over this since his ad campaign really was the start of good ads for sony

    3. psphackeraod
      02-09-2011
      01:58 AM
      3

      f*** ya thats whats up

    4. euss
      02-09-2011
      02:01 AM
      4

      Originally Posted by Pirate View Post
      Things can get to bad to worse this week when Sony's own Kevin Butler re-tweeted the METLDR root key.
      HMAC for the service mode dongle:
      46DCEAD317FE45D80923EB97E4956410D4CDB2C2

      metldr:
      erk: C0CEFE84C227F75BD07A7EB846509F93B238E770DACB9FF4A388F812482BE21B
      riv: 47EE7454E4774CC9B8960C7B59F4C14D
      public: C2D4AAF319355019AF99D44E2B58CA29252C89123D11D6218F40B138CAB29B7101F3AEB72A975019
      private: 00C5B2BFA1A413DD16F26D31C0F2ED4720DCFB0670
      curve_type: 0x20

      See the difference? Right, so update that startpost

    5. thatguy
      02-09-2011
      02:06 AM
      5

      is it real? can anyone confirm that this is a real post or is it a spoof on Keven ButLicker? and why would they post this if they are sueing other sites for doing the same thing I'M SOOOOOOOOO CONFUSED LOL

    6. BoredUltimatum
      02-09-2011
      02:12 AM
      6

      Bit of a let down... From the title I expected something like Kevin Butler making a stand against Sony's suing everyone they can in regards to this whole thing. Still funny though.

    7. JakeTiDe
      02-09-2011
      02:13 AM
      7

      Lol, it's "real" post. Though that $ony guy thought it is battleship game in which you have coordinates like A5, C8, something like chessboard, you setup ships on some coordinates, enemy on his, and you both try to hit each other ships, first to hit all enemy ships wins - google rest info about this little notebook game (since you can play it any place, with pen and piece of paper, ie: on boring lesson)

    8. marta088
      02-09-2011
      02:53 AM
      8

      Everyone saying kevin butler this kevin butler that, do you know that he's a fucing actor paid to fool everyone with jokes and **** about the beautiful $ony world??? Did you know that and feel good with the money invested in this cheap trick instead in awesome games to play on the console and other stuff useful for the end users?

    9. makaveli101
      02-09-2011
      03:52 AM
      9

      haha b4 the court cases and suing, people were spelling sony the normal way, now that we know that they are as money hungry as m$ we all spell it like this $ony.

      and great battleship moves lol he probably didn't realize he just leaked $onys root key. thats how secure $onys ps3 is lol

    10. vate30
      02-09-2011
      03:58 AM
      10

      we use to love sony !why they had to mess with us

    11. makaveli101
      02-09-2011
      04:19 AM
      11

      there are almost 50 million ps3's sold as of jan 2011, which is also xbox 360s sales figures too.

      last year on xbox 360, pirated games were detectable, and EVERYONE who ran a pirated game got banned, the ban wave caught 1 million consoles which were banned from xbox live.

      that means that 1 in 50 of us play pirated games. which is very small considering how many consoles are out there. so 1 in 50 of us probably run backups with cfw.

      piracy doesn't not hurt. in fact it doesn't make a difference at all, if a person is not willing to pay £40 for a game, then the person never will. a recent study proved that to be true.

      Now that 1 in 50 will still respect the industry and will pay for the games they like, i know i do. Infact i may download a leaked game just to play it early, and i have custom firmware just because i like to open up the potential of ps3 rather than the limited & downgraded access we have had.

      $ony are getting way too greedy when the truth is that it doesn't effect their market sales, this is the same with illegal music downloads.

    12. kidrock1023
      02-09-2011
      04:31 AM
      12

      could be reverse psychology.. sony is so.. ughh!!

    13. romul
      02-09-2011
      04:48 AM
      13

      Originally Posted by makaveli101 View Post
      there are almost 50 million ps3's sold as of jan 2011, which is also xbox 360s sales figures too.

      last year on xbox 360, pirated games were detectable, and EVERYONE who ran a pirated game got banned, the ban wave caught 1 million consoles which were banned from xbox live.

      that means that 1 in 50 of us play pirated games. which is very small considering how many consoles are out there. so 1 in 50 of us probably run backups with cfw.

      piracy doesn't not hurt. in fact it doesn't make a difference at all, if a person is not willing to pay £40 for a game, then the person never will. a recent study proved that to be true.

      Now that 1 in 50 will still respect the industry and will pay for the games they like, i know i do. Infact i may download a leaked game just to play it early, and i have custom firmware just because i like to open up the potential of ps3 rather than the limited & downgraded access we have had.

      $ony are getting way too greedy when the truth is that it doesn't effect their market sales, this is the same with illegal music downloads.

    14. KFallon
      02-09-2011
      05:06 AM
      14

      @makeveli101
      You're the 2nd person I know here that believes in this perspective uses this analogy or you might be the same person I replied to back then. Let me point out some flaws in your logic:

      1.

      last year on xbox 360, pirated games were detectable, and EVERYONE who ran a pirated game got banned, the ban wave caught 1 million consoles which were banned from xbox live.
      What makes you think that EVERYONE who runs pirated games sign into Xbox live? From these forums alone, you can see that there are a lot (I suspect most) who don't sign on to PSN for fear of getting detected and banned. The figure of 1 million users you use are, in all likelihood, idiots who didn't know better and fell into the obvious trap whereas the majority of pirates either remain offline or employ circumventions to avoid detection, avoid getting detected thus avoid getting banned and therefore avoid being added to your useless statistic which, by all accounts, ruins the 1:50 ratio your entire argument relies on. I have about 50 or so acquaintances who own PC's, Wiis, PS3s, PSPs and Xboxes. The only original games they own are the ones that came in the packages they bought. Heck, a lot more bought the plain vanilla packages that had no freebies in them. Go figure.

      2.
      piracy doesn't not hurt. in fact it doesn't make a difference at all, if a person is not willing to pay £40 for a game, then the person never will. a recent study proved that to be true.
      Hahaha. Apparently, you're quoting the same inconclusive study as the last guy. Consider this. If it were impossible to pirate, then everyone who WANTS to play a certain game will be forced to acquire a legitimate copy or live without the experience forever. Consumerism is akin to the Laws of Energy where piracy is entropic. The more consumer desire to purchase is dampened by readily available, free versions of the same product, the less kineticism will be present in the business model that needs profits to drive development of better products down the line which results in poorer offerings in the future. Sure, less consoles will be sold since pirates simply won't buy one but all the potential profits from consumers who are sitting on the fence on whether to buy a new game or not, is positioned to funnel perfectly down the revenue chute so to speak which is the most profitable scenario in all cases. Since you seem fond of "research" look up the billion dollar piracy figures across all industries, figure out the percentage of people within that pool that would have purchased a legit product had there been no free alternative available and if the numbers show no significant impact as you said, then you can continue to spout your opinion as you did here.

      Every outfit out there wants to profit in one form or another. Even purely humanitarian efforts hunt for a profit of ideals in spreading their goodwill. The only human that doesn't want to profit is either insane or dead. Calling out a company for being greedy in a time of hemorrhage due to a total loss of property (PS3) as opposed to seeing it as damage control, albeit desperate, on their part; needs adjustment.

      One can imagine, future iterations of consoles to have no more open features that will allow system compromise such as those that employ gaming in the cloud instead of delivering games in a physical media or interfacing with peripheral devices over the air instead of providing ports and other physical media that can physically connect to the console itself. I for one want to own something tangible but the way things are going now, the business model will move away from its current form. All the features lost that we ***** about like OtherOs will certainly not be around in the future and though Sony was wrong to take it away the way they did, they certainly will not be at fault for not providing such a feature in the PS4 etc.

      P.S. I really don't get why topic posters try to incite "hate" and urges to ridicule within readers through the verbiage employed within the topic posted. There's a lot that can be said about presenting and distinguishing ourselves through fair play and intelligent criticism. Sure, Sony has done a lot of ill-advised moves throughout the years but they're not the only ones to blame in this mess, are they? And we should rise above and be the betters of our "opponents", should we not?

    15. Cruxis
      02-09-2011
      05:34 AM
      15

      Guys look what i found, this guy posted this on another forum:

      Ok, So I have a chat room on PSN where all members of my clan join and discuss things. Yesterday, one of my friends brought up the topic of PSP Hacking, and was dicussing a CFW. I knew about this too and I contributed to the conversation. This morning, I had a lot of messages from friends saying they received e-mails from Sony themselves, saying that they should leave my clan because I am a hacker. ....

      Ok, I can understand that Sony doesn't like the fact that people hack their consoles. But, if it was just a topic in a conversation, I see no harm. There were no instructions or guidances of using these hacks on the PSP.

      But, WHY would Sony PERSOANALLY e-mail my clan members, and tell them to LEAVE my clan. In fact, some have, and actually, I can't blame them. Though I wish they hadn't left, it seems Sony tried to scare them away from me, because Sony doesn't agree with the conversation that took place. It's quite disappointing to me, that Sony would just read a chat room and see something they don't like, and dispatch an e-mail telling them to leave my clan.
      Maybe someone reported or Sony is in fact using filters to read some messages that use some "words" related to CFW?

    16. alyx1300
      02-09-2011
      07:00 AM
      16

      i like this guy. haha

    17. camilov
      02-09-2011
      07:46 AM
      17

      This is one of the most awesome things I've ever seen.

    18. Pockets69
      02-09-2011
      08:27 AM
      18

      that is not the metldr key... its the service mode dongle key...

    19. simrucci
      02-09-2011
      08:37 AM
      19

      is this code is more confidential then a nuclear lunch code? it's so crazy...

    20. Cop
      02-09-2011
      09:40 AM
      20

      What is this code? and is it useful?

    21. fanoh
      02-09-2011
      09:44 AM
      21

      noob lol:aetsch:

    22. Cop
      02-09-2011
      09:50 AM
      22

      Originally Posted by fanoh View Post
      noob lol:aetsch:
      Wtf lol? :aetsch:

    23. mightykhan
      02-09-2011
      11:25 AM
      23

      That's Sony in a nutshell:

      "You sank my battleship!"

      Their battleship is sunk.

      Originally Posted by KFallon
      Consider this. If it were impossible to pirate, then everyone who WANTS to play a certain game will be forced to acquire a legitimate copy or live without the experience forever. Consumerism is akin to the Laws of Energy where piracy is entropic.
      that's a non-sequitur, you're assuming that the demand for games is the same on secure platforms, and it's not. The history of the industry clearly shows that less secure platforms are more popular.

      mid-1980's: cartridge console business destroyed by the popular C64, where almost every game was rampantly pirated but also more copies were sold.

      late 80's/90's: cartridge consoles make a comeback by being super cheap.

      90's: less secure optical media consoles drive cartridges back into oblivion.

      last gen: easily hacked ps2 becomes most popular console in history. Piracy runs "rampant" but publishers sell more titles and more copies than anywhere else, and they haven't stopped yet.

      current gen: easily hacked Wii is most popular console. Difficult-to-hack ps3 sits in last place for 4 years, failing to land a title in VGChartz's all-time top 100 except MW2 (well behind xbox MW2 and pc MW2). Publishers who whined about console security show their thanks by making their titles multiplatform anyway, or making exclusives for xbox.

      platform flexibility => consumer interest in platform => demand for games.

      less flexible platforms only sell well when they are substantially cheaper than their competition. That's why the NES sold well.

      Manufacturer control of the product is a far more entropic thing in economics than piracy will ever be. Nobody wants to buy something with a ball and chain attached to it.

    24. ps3ps2psx
      02-09-2011
      11:49 AM
      24

      If Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo were loosing so much money due to piracy, they would not be in business. Any company no matter what they sell. If loosing money constantly for 15 years. Would not be in business.

      PC games/apps have been pirated since day 1. Yet companies that make games/apps for PC are still around. So there must be money to be made.

    25. thatguy
      02-09-2011
      11:53 AM
      25

      Why would $ONY post this unless its some sort of TRAP to get DEV's to BRICK hundreds of ps3's again as a way to shut down the CFW scene but i could be wrong and if its real then what can it be used for or maybe its an alterd code for 3.56 and if used will cause your ps3 to auto upgrade to 3.56 and patching anything and everything that could be used to hack the ps3

    26. null_Dereferenced
      02-09-2011
      11:54 AM
      26

      "Consider this. If it were impossible to pirate, then everyone who WANTS to play a certain game will be forced to acquire a legitimate copy or live without the experience forever. Consumerism is akin to the Laws of Energy where piracy is entropic."

      Yea, that's a lie. I had my console for 8 months without even having the knowledge that the PS3 was hackable. I bought it used and mostly got it because it was a really good price and only slightly more than a blu-ray player of equal quality (what I really wanted). I wanted to play a lot of different games in that period but there was no freakin way I was going to shell out $70 for a new game; which is a little less than half of what I paid for the console!! So, I didn't buy a SINGLE game in that time period. I just rent or have my friend rent for me (who works at a well known video chain and gets free rentals). Either way, I can play a whole game through and only pay about $6 for it. I doubt Sony is getting any of that money (a small fraction, at best).

      So yea, I thought it was impossible to pirate on the PS3, there were games that I really wanted to play, but I did not buy any games. That doesn't seem to line up with the conclusion that you've drawn.

    27. askull
      02-09-2011
      12:11 PM
      27


      Wow!

    28. MunkyBizSkate
      02-09-2011
      12:23 PM
      28

      will Kevin Butler get subpoenaed along with everyone else?

    29. alienkid
      02-09-2011
      12:33 PM
      29

      "thatguy - 02-09-2011 11:53 AM

      Why would $ONY post this unless its some sort of TRAP to get DEV's to BRICK hundreds of ps3's again as a way to shut down the CFW scene but i could be wrong and if its real then what can it be used for or maybe its an alterd code for 3.56 and if used will cause your ps3 to auto upgrade to 3.56 and patching anything and everything that could be used to hack the ps3"

      I'm kinda thinking this, too

    30. Pockets69
      02-09-2011
      12:38 PM
      30

      sony didn't post it! kevin butler being a noob that he is retweeted it!

    31. MitchenX
      02-09-2011
      01:01 PM
      31

      He is just an advertisement mascot, with virtually no technical knowledge of the PS3, he could not have known what that code was for...
      However... While D3, D8, E4 etc could sink your battleship, numbers like 95, EA, DC and 45 do not even exist on the Battleship playing field!
      Of course he shouldn't get fired over it, 1-he didn't know and 2-this is code that everybody already has easy access to. So really we should all chuckle and move along. :P

    32. Qraze1
      02-09-2011
      01:02 PM
      32

      SUE HIS A$$!!!

      gahahaha.

    33. thatguy
      02-09-2011
      01:07 PM
      33

      Enough of the useless news i wanna hear something good like
      "NEW CFW 3.56" or "A NEW WAY TO BYPASS PSN FW 3.56 CHECK" i miss being able to play online but im not going to kiss $ONY's A$$ to do so. All im asking is for the devs and hackers out there with the know-how to get moving on some kind way to get back online thats all.

    34. 1978alexn
      02-09-2011
      01:07 PM
      34

      they should rename sony to son y? son Y are you buying this piece of S@#T. :musicus:

    35. MunkyBizSkate
      02-09-2011
      01:08 PM
      35

      The defense could subpoena Butler and insist he hacked the PS3.. I'd believe it

    36. Pockets69
      02-09-2011
      01:14 PM
      36

      Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
      Enough of the useless news i wanna hear something good like
      "NEW CFW 3.56" or "A NEW WAY TO BYPASS PSN FW 3.56 CHECK" i miss being able to play online but im not going to kiss $ONY's A$$ to do so. All im asking is for the devs and hackers out there with the know-how to get moving on some kind way to get back online thats all.
      Enough of your useless posts i am tired of hearing you begging and order people arround! if you are not happy leave!
      Our job is to give news and help people and that is what we are doing!

    37. ps398632
      02-09-2011
      01:38 PM
      37

      fist of all if this is indeeds $ony's doing to tell people that so and so to leave sos because they are a hacker, then that is in mu opinion illegal. and can be sued for such a thing they also can be sued for harassment, among other things. If If $sony where to do that to me, I would have there head on a platter.I also have recordings that state there CSRS have said that there has been nothing wrong with the 3.56 update that had created major problems for the PS3 ..I am preparing to send those to the FTC. as that is dishonest business practices.

      as for that Posting..SCEA now runs the risk of losing the lawsuit..hasd any one updated the tourney with that evidence? I am foing to send it to them that is for sure.

    38. MiniMaxX
      02-09-2011
      02:48 PM
      38

      Lmfaooooooooo

    39. chefcrank
      02-09-2011
      05:14 PM
      39

      fist of all if this is indeeds $ony's doing to tell people that so and so to leave sos because they are a hacker, then that is in mu opinion illegal. and can be sued for such a thing they also can be sued for harassment, among other things. If If $sony where to do that to me, I would have there head on a platter.I also have recordings that state there CSRS have said that there has been nothing wrong with the 3.56 update that had created major problems for the PS3 ..I am preparing to send those to the FTC. as that is dishonest business practices.

      as for that Posting..SCEA now runs the risk of losing the lawsuit..hasd any one updated the tourney with that evidence? I am foing to send it to them that is for sure.


      You and I definately need to speak of your speeeellliinngg

    40. ps398632
      02-09-2011
      06:43 PM
      40

      hey have an of us thaught about calling the attorney and telling them thanks for trying to support the consumer and there rights..I just did.. I gave them a heart felt thanks. and they really can use it.

      I am all for our freedoms and liberties, I know that this goes beyond hacking, this goes right to cooperate abuse. And it is unfair and unjust to the consumers.

      and We at least need to take the time to say thank in some way.

      Sony has became to big, and there playing a power trip.

      may be its time we at least say thank you for what geohot is doing.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      I know my bad spelling is my signature..but joking aside, I am suffering from a very sore elbow atm. and am typing with one hand.

    41. KillerBug
      02-10-2011
      01:09 AM
      41

      Super LoL...I guess Sony has to sue him now.

      And yes...we sunk your battleship!

    42. SpecialK79
      02-10-2011
      11:07 AM
      42

      just lol....