• PS3 Hacks, PSN , 23.04.2011

    Sony has finally admitted why PSN has been down for days, and it is what everyone has been assuming. A group or possibly even a single hacker brought down the giant. Down time for PSN was reported to be “1 to 2 full days”, but after this update it is certain that is not the case, here is a quote from the PS Blogs:

    An external intrusion on our system has affected our PlayStation Network and Qriocity services. In order to conduct a thorough investigation and to verify the smooth and secure operation of our network services going forward, we turned off PlayStation Network & Qriocity services on the evening of Wednesday, April 20th. Providing quality entertainment services to our customers and partners is our utmost priority. We are doing all we can to resolve this situation quickly, and we once again thank you for your patience. We will continue to update you promptly as we have additional information to share.

    Source

    Many have thought hackers from within “Anonymous” have been behind this. An official post from Anonymous’s website reports that “For Once We Didn’t Do It”. If thats the case, who is and are they “brave” enough to come forward, here is a quote from them:

    For Once We Didn’t Do It

    Sony’s Playstation Network, its online service for Playstation 3 and its Playstation Portable consoles, suffered from a major outage today; which is on going as of this writting. According to Son’ys blog, the interruption in service may last into the long weekend – for at least another “full day or two”. Sony released a statement through its EU blog, saying that the network outage may be a result of “targeted behaviour by an outside party”, brining in the possibility of cyberattacks. Adding to the confusion is the fact that the message has since been removed.

    While it could be the case that other Anons have acted by themselves AnonOps wa not related to this incident and takes no responsiblity for it. A more likely explination is that Sony is taking advantage of Anonymous’ previous ill-will towards the company to distract users from the fact the outage is accutally an internal problem with the companies servers.

    TL:DR

    Sony is incompetent.

    Source

    Update
    Sony have updated their PS Blog, this is what it says:

    We sincerely regret that PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have been suspended, and we are working around the clock to bring them both back online. Our efforts to resolve this matter involve re-building our system to further strengthen our network infrastructure. Though this task is time-consuming, we decided it was worth the time necessary to provide the system with additional security.

    We thank you for your patience to date and ask for a little more while we move towards completion of this project. We will continue to give you updates as they become available.

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  • 243 Comments

    1. Pockets69
      04-22-2011
      10:22 PM
      1

      well they told they had more in their sleeve not only ddos...

    2. 2die4
      04-22-2011
      10:28 PM
      2

      yeah but anon said it wasnt them so wonder who it was

    3. kinger
      04-22-2011
      10:29 PM
      3

      Working in a similar field (with about 69.5 million less users). I find it astonishing it has taken them this long to really tell the users that they purposefully turn the system down. Let alone that it took then 1 or 2 two days to provide an update. At the business I work at we normally provide updates on even small things every hour, even if that update is to say there is currently no new updates.

      On another note, even though I am affected by the PSN being down. I am not upset at anyone but Sony. I ponder what actions and decisions Sony will take after this and if anyone comes out of the wood work to take credit. I have often said the main fault in most hackers is vanity.

    4. Pockets69
      04-22-2011
      10:29 PM
      4

      they did? oh well sony is being really targeted right now!!! its not anon anymore! people are getting unhappy with sony...

    5. 2die4
      04-22-2011
      10:35 PM
      5

      In a post entitled "For Once We Didn't Do It," hacker group Anonymous today denied involvement with the recent PlayStation Network outages.

      "While it could be the case that other Anons have acted by themselves, AnonOps was not related to this incident and takes no responsibility for it," reads the statement. "A more likely explanation is that Sony is taking advantage of Anonymous' previous ill-will towards the company to distract users from the fact the outage is actually an internal problem with the company's server

      The PlayStation Network began to experience technical issues in the U.S. on Wednesday night, and went down worldwide on Thursday. It currently remains inaccessible, greeting users who attempt to connect with the now-infamous '80710A06' error code.

      For its part, Sony yesterday stated that it was investigating the issue, and it could be "a full day or two" before PlayStation Network functionality returned.

      We'll continue to keep you updated on the situation as we hear more.
      http://www.psu.com/Anonymous-denies-...a011420-p0.php

    6. $n!pR
      04-22-2011
      10:42 PM
      6

      Looks like George was a little upset at Sony

    7. kinger
      04-22-2011
      10:46 PM
      7

      Edited the article a bit to include some of the Anonymous questions behind it. Didnt steal your thunder 2die4, I was aware of that report from Anon as well . But you did remind me to include it. Thanks.

    8. BobbyBlunt
      04-22-2011
      11:07 PM
      8

      I already linked this in the front page article.

    9. Thelostdeathknight
      04-22-2011
      11:21 PM
      9

      seems like whatever the hackers were up to had $ony shatting bricks. Enough to pull the plug on something they promised to not take away. $ony and promises

    10. OoZic
      04-23-2011
      03:48 AM
      10

      ok, now I assume it is no Ddos attack, so what other possibilities are there?
      The only other thing I can imagine, while I just woke up, is some kind of virus on their PSN network. Something called Prolexic.virus maybe?

      -------------------------------------------------------------
      [15:13:03] <Mathieulh> I am glad those rebug guys don't know half of what can be done with their stuff
      [15:13:15] <X8> why are you glad
      [15:13:29] <Mathieulh> because it'd be anarchy
      -------------------------------------------------------------

    11. obgnaysahpcbu
      04-23-2011
      03:55 AM
      11

      Yeah more like someone at SONY ****ed up themselves...

    12. Annelies
      04-23-2011
      04:18 AM
      12

      I wonder when they'll stop the attacks (whoever's attacking them). I want to get back on PSN.

    13. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      04:20 AM
      13

      What a load of old tosh! Just because Sony says they were attacked doesn't actually make it to be the truth.

      Sony are the sneakiest bast*rds in history, most people hate Hitler but at least he didn't hide what he was doing. He hated everyone who was better looking, had more than one testicle and sported a better tash than he did!

      I have a feeling that @TheKevinButler unplugged the PSN Server so he could recharge his jack-hammer rabbit ears 17" anal plug dildo planning to use it on graf when they try to r*pe his a$$ in court.

      The PSN Down by hackers story will only fuel Sonys defense that all hackers are B*stards. The media is going to be all over this and the Sony fanbhoys are going to cream their pants! While us sceners get shafted in every angle because we believe in a freedom in a console WE paid our hard-earned cash on. We OWN the damn things we should be able to do whatever we damn well please on it.

      Fuk Sony, Fuk DMCA, Fuk all these bast*rds that try to keep us silent and on a leash. I hope they all BURN in Hell and that Lucifer himself personally F*CKS them harder.

    14. jivex5k
      04-23-2011
      04:26 AM
      14

      Yeah I sense something fishy in Sony's statement...not that it matters.
      Hopefully Graf has a good lawyer.

    15. KillerBug
      04-23-2011
      04:31 AM
      15

      What I don't understand is why they are claiming the network has only been down 2 days, when it was officially shut off more than two days ago, and it wasn't working for online gaming for about a week before that.

      Knowing sony and promises, I am starting to suspect that the forever free PSN we were promised is going to go away, and PSN+ is going to be the only way to play online. They will say that this is for security, and their loyal fanboys will say how happy they are to have the chance to pay money to connect to a network with almost no one to play against. Meanwhile, there will have to be a mirror to the OtherOS case...that case is suing for removal of OtherOS; not for removal of the PSN...the next case will sue for removal of the PSN.

      The only problem with that theory is that it leaves sony little room to remove more advertised features; and what would sony do if not removing features? At that point, they might as well close shop.

      BTW...I decided to put on GT5P again last night...I've been playing GT5 a lot and I kinda wanted something to compare it with. It refused to start because the network is down...this is the only PSN game I tried with these results...are there others?

    16. advocatusdiaboli
      04-23-2011
      04:57 AM
      16

      Originally Posted by $n!pR View Post
      Looks like George was a little upset at Sony
      Stupid comment.

      Do you really believe productive people do counter attacks? It would be a waste of productivity.

      Revenge is for the envious, success on the other hand, is for the one that holds his head high and keeps a direction.

    17. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      05:03 AM
      17

      [DELETED - for being far too long winded and had way too many sh1t movie references contained]

    18. CrystalWolf
      04-23-2011
      05:28 AM
      18

      This looks like its getting out of hand. Legit players are also suffering. This isn't fair anonymous or whoever you are. Please stop this insanity

      ****EDIT****
      Mathielh just tweeted who has been attacking psn. A dev by the name of Zero-Cool has taken down the psn.
      http://www.twitlonger.com/show/a1avm7

    19. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      05:51 AM
      19

      Mathielh just tweeted who has been attacking psn. A dev by the name of Zero-Cool has taken down the psn.
      http://www.twitlonger.com/show/a1avm7
      lol yes I rant on twitter too. Cheers Math for the RT :D

      Now going for a "nap"

    20. zim804
      04-23-2011
      08:27 AM
      20

      LOL at ultimathaker not getting the Hackers reference. Must be too young. maybe you should go watch it a feel like a tard.

      warning

      Warning

      Don't Insult other members



    21. Annelies
      04-23-2011
      08:34 AM
      21

      Originally Posted by zim804 View Post
      LOL at ultimathaker not getting the Hackers reference. Must be too young. maybe you should go watch it a feel like a tard.
      And instead of explaining it.. you insult him.

    22. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      08:40 AM
      22

      Originally Posted by Annelies View Post
      And instead of explaining it.. you insult him.
      Anne I think what he meant was you will feel like a 'tard after watching that flick. If you have seen it, you must admit it is one of the gash'est films made in all of Hollywood History. I have had the misfortune of seeing it 3 times and each time my IQ has dropped some what.

    23. NakedFaerie
      04-23-2011
      08:40 AM
      23

      Everyone remember when $ony said "We will never remove OtherOS". That was in Dec 2009 and guess what they did in Feb 2010. They removed OtherOS.

      Now, who would you believe, $ony the well known liars or the group that said they have nothing to do with this PSN downtime. I know who I'm gonna believe.

      I have to agree and guess it's probably $ony themselves that have messed up.
      They probably tried to put too much security into PSN and locked it up themselves then blame someone else for their incompetence.
      As they don't have a clue how to do security they probably tried something that backfired and took out PSN. Stupids. They shouldn't have sued anyone and they should've hired GeoHot and the security would've been fixed and none of this would've happened.

      I'd hate to work for $ony as they are so stupid if you did then expect to loose your job within the next 5 years as you will all get sacked as they are too stupid to run such a big company and keep it going. They are doing everything to loose customers not make customers.

      $ony = retards
      hackers = winners

    24. 2die4
      04-23-2011
      08:49 AM
      24




      haha math pwnd the crowd zero-cool lolz

    25. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      08:54 AM
      25

      haha math pwnd the crowd zero-cool lolz
      Well no he just retweeted what I put... Damn you math taking the credit again for others work! lol (j/king)

    26. CrystalWolf
      04-23-2011
      08:55 AM
      26

      Well looks like i got pwnd i thought it was for real so sue me

    27. Mattr92
      04-23-2011
      09:03 AM
      27

      I think sony shut off psn to fix the vulnerabilities as people were starting to overload the dev network

    28. lisapower
      04-23-2011
      09:04 AM
      28

      I'm glad to see people fighting for Freedom & free Speech!!!!

    29. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      09:05 AM
      29

      lol thats cool ultimathaker.. i bet there will be shed loads of threads over at NGU calling out for this Zero-Cool fella.

    30. bigo93
      04-23-2011
      09:20 AM
      30

      Well doesnt the new US TOS now say they may change to charge for the creation of accounts or something along those lines? This may be a scam by Sony in order to make people think that buying a new account will be more secure, so you end up with 70 million paying like $30 for something they already have, if all 70 million pay for their "secure" accounts that's $2.1 billion Sony would make in a matter of weeks!

      So@
      1) Fake hacking
      2) Charge for "security"
      3) Profit!

    31. 2die4
      04-23-2011
      09:24 AM
      31

      the movie hackers is sooooooooooo lame the villian is the guy who plays the indian guy in johnny 5 if that give you any inkling to the movie lol

    32. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      09:27 AM
      32

      Originally Posted by 2die4 View Post
      the movie hackers is sooooooooooo lame the villian is the guy who plays the indian guy in johnny 5 if that give you any inkling to the movie lol
      But it's all twue I tell yer, it's twue!!!!!!

    33. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      09:44 AM
      33

      As has now been proved (cheer ultimathaker ) you should never believe what you read no matter how reliable the source.

      Just because Sony said it was a hacker doesn't make it fact. someone said sony = retards, well I don't agree. Sony now have all their pieces lined up and can now blame absolutely everything on hackers. PSN now, in the future I am sure we will be responsible for YLOD and more.. its a smart move. The Sony phanboys, the media & the courts are already eating out of Sony's fat hands, so why not play the "fckin' hackers" card every chance they get.

      But we all know, Sony are at fault for this. The blame is laid at their clown shoes so let them go on, soon enough the hackers will have enough and then Sonys defense's will fall.

    34. Shinto Z
      04-23-2011
      09:52 AM
      34

      It wasn't a DDoS attack, it was a Distributed International-Level Denial Of Service attack. Yep, that's what they are....

      Sheer Ineptitude......

    35. kidrock1023
      04-23-2011
      10:02 AM
      35

      hey. what goes around comes around. this is what sony gets

    36. duncanbuster
      04-23-2011
      10:05 AM
      36

      HMMMM ID LIKE TO THINK THERE WAS A KEY LOGGER HIDING IN AMONGST ALL OF THIS MAYHEM JUST THINK THE 3.60 KEYS AT YOUR DISPOSAL

    37. Sexbox
      04-23-2011
      10:12 AM
      37

      Forgive me if I call bull**** on this!

      Someone else was saying the same thing I was thinking elsewhere. Sony are liars and have been involved in the infamous rootkit scandal, they lied to everyone about Other O/S and used it as a selling point and to avoid taxes in the UK by claiming the gaming console was a personal computer.

      Lately we've seen just how corrupt and how evil the corporation of Sony actually is, but hey, all corps are evil in hindsight bit none from the BIG 3 have abused consumers like Sony.

      Now they cry hacker, that's an excuse, they just want to put the blame on someone else other than themselves because as we have noticed this entire generation, Sony are **** with online, total ametuers copying XBOX Live as much as they possibly can. Live comes with a cost for a reason and I'm glad Microsoft never gave in to Valve also.

      At least stuff works on the green side.

    38. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      10:14 AM
      38

      EDIT: Oooooo... they didn't actually say it was a hacker attack did they, they put it down to "external intrusion on our system".. aint it a bit weird that after the original DDoS attack from Anonymous they hired some high-rate horse's arse company (I think it was Prolexic Technologies) to protect them better and BAM! the entire system goes down.

      But of course Sony can't admit it may be their own mistake or that somebody somewhere has dropped the ball. Instead they let the phanboys & media assume that Anonymous or a bunch of p1ssed off hackers are responsible.

      Now i aint no technical whizz-kid, but in the original "attacks" it didn't take Sony 3 f&ckin days to get their sh1t back on-line. It doesn't take this long to pull records and trace some IP's.. come on Sony pull the other one.

    39. ibivibiv
      04-23-2011
      10:25 AM
      39

      I agree, just use Live (far superior product - you get what you pay for).

      Overall I just don't know what to believe. Part of me says that cyberspace is still the wild wild west and you have to know how to behave. $ony thinks it is like the real world and they own everything. Not true on the internet. They have kicked so many balls lately I am sure someone decided to kick back. On the web it takes one person to take down millions. Online you need to observe the golden rule; Do unto others as you want them to do unto you.

      Then again, I have to say look at the source. These guys are habitual liars. So who really knows? Either way my first statement applies. Their $#@$ service is a @#$@ service so I'll stick with Live for my online play. Live is the grown up pool with a life guard. PSN is the kiddy pool with a bunch of script kiddies $%#ing in it. Which one do you want to swim in?

    40. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      10:37 AM
      40

      Originally Posted by duncanbuster View Post
      HMMMM ID LIKE TO THINK THERE WAS A KEY LOGGER HIDING IN AMONGST ALL OF THIS MAYHEM JUST THINK THE 3.60 KEYS AT YOUR DISPOSAL
      What is it today with CAPS LOCK? ... Please turn off.

    41. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      10:41 AM
      41

      Originally Posted by DaveOMac View Post
      What is it today with CAPS LOCK? ... Please turn off.
      I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!...

    42. ricker
      04-23-2011
      10:44 AM
      42

      I totally beleive that sony got hacked in some sort. There will always be a hacker willing to trump another. Anon had their shot, now somebody else is testing their might. Psn is probably in for a very long rocky road.

    43. pizza
      04-23-2011
      10:46 AM
      43

      hmm, when it was really a hacker, he owned all customers of PSN at once.

      Because Sony store every Creditcard number + all other informations on the servers
      (Many of these Informations are illegal to save, but you all know sony don't give a **** about something called "LAW"...)
      ..for the ones who understand german look at the PDF which was posted on PS3crunch from a german EU guy which wants to get against sony...
      (http://ps3crunch.net/wp-content/uplo...ic_info_eu.pdf)
      even the security numbers of the Credit Cards are saved on the Servers...

      Haha to all the people who entered their real ID's + Credit Cards, because may be in the next few weeks or month you should watch for orders or money transfers you never did...

    44. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      11:01 AM
      44

      Originally Posted by pizza View Post
      hmm, when it was really a hacker, he owned all customers of PSN at once.

      Because Sony store every Creditcard number + all other informations on the servers
      (Many of these Informations are illegal to save, but you all know sony don't give a **** about something called "LAW"...)
      ..for the ones who understand german look at the PDF which was posted on PS3crunch from a german EU guy which wants to get against sony...
      (http://ps3crunch.net/wp-content/uplo...ic_info_eu.pdf)
      even the security numbers of the Credit Cards are saved on the Servers...

      Haha to all the people who entered their real ID's + Credit Cards, because may be in the next few weeks or month you should watch for orders or money transfers you never did...
      Is that confirmed? I've never used PSN for anything at all other than syncing trophies, but I thought any CC transactions had to go through a 3rd party, and either way the CC account details cannot be kept on record by anyone other than your bank etc?

    45. mindping
      04-23-2011
      11:10 AM
      45

      ive bought a game wit a cc, then formatted the HDD and was able to buy another game without reentering my CC number.. its either stored in flash or server side.

    46. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      11:15 AM
      46

      Originally Posted by mindping View Post
      ive bought a game wit a cc, then formatted the HDD and was able to buy another game without reentering my CC number.. its either stored in flash or server side.
      Were you diverted to another server though that was run by another company. and did you have to confirm by password before the transaction went through?

    47. Celticninja
      04-23-2011
      11:15 AM
      47

      as much as I hate those noobs screaming it was anonymous, and anyone thinking hackers are the boogeyman I believe MY PS3 is mine to do with as I see fit, I think the problem that this community has is while we own the PS3 and can do with it whatever we please, the PSN is not ours to do with as we please. ever since the community opened up the PS3, we've had people getting greedy, wanting absolute control over thier PS3, AND PSN access. I have 3 PS3's 2 are hacked, and those 2 are behind a router that is acting like DNS to block them from so much as contacting Sony, my third is for PSN access.

      basically I think we'd make Sony, the gamers, and ourselves happy if we live with these limitations, think about it, within a month or 2 of the PS3 being hacked people were already cheating online, that's not right. treat the PSN as a privilege, and opening up your PS3 as a right. we can't hack the PS3 AND have it go on the PSN...

    48. zaspan
      04-23-2011
      11:28 AM
      48

      You know what would be cool.If sony would take the psn aswell from the ps3,seriously that would make me happy because it would be a kick in the nuts for every person owning a ps3.Yesterday my hard disk in my pc broke and all i could think about was that the ps3 once had linux and i could have used it as a temp subsititute until i buy a new hard disk.I say down with sony and psn.

      I also have a joke:what is the diference between cfw and ofw......there is none,they both dont have psn.

    49. k00tj3
      04-23-2011
      11:34 AM
      49

      I know who it was, it was people from reddotcity
      i have one of the guys on facebook and he told me and said that he was begin the attack of psn on facebook. he said he used a warbot or something

    50. Pockets69
      04-23-2011
      11:39 AM
      50

      LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL and you believed him! it was a lie it was my cousin who did it, not your friend.

    51. zaspan
      04-23-2011
      11:42 AM
      51

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL and you believed him! it was a lie it my cousin who did it, not your friend.
      4 real?Or are you just being sarcastic?

    52. Rax909
      04-23-2011
      11:49 AM
      52

      Love it. Finally someone did what anonymous couldnt do.

    53. Pockets69
      04-23-2011
      11:52 AM
      53

      Originally Posted by zaspan View Post
      4 real?Or are you just being sarcastic?
      Sarcasm...

    54. Annelies
      04-23-2011
      11:52 AM
      54

      Originally Posted by Rax909 View Post
      Finally someone did what anonymous couldnt do.
      Anonymous isn't one group.

    55. Momoals
      04-23-2011
      12:02 PM
      55

      Does this mean PSN will be open to hacked PS3's forever
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      sorry for my NOOBish question.

    56. zaspan
      04-23-2011
      12:07 PM
      56

      Originally Posted by Momoals View Post
      Does this mean PSN will be open to hacked PS3's forever
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      sorry for my NOOBish question.
      Once those gates open there is no turning back it' hackable forever.But sony is just going to make it harder and harder to hack (lol harder and harder)

    57. OoZic
      04-23-2011
      12:07 PM
      57

      Originally Posted by zaspan View Post
      You know what would be cool.If sony would take the psn aswell from the ps3,seriously that would make me happy because it would be a kick in the nuts for every person owning a ps3.Yesterday my hard disk in my pc broke and all i could think about was that the ps3 once had linux and i could have used it as a temp subsititute until i buy a new hard disk.I say down with sony and psn.

      I also have a joke:what is the diference between cfw and ofw......there is none,they both dont have psn.
      You do know Linux (OtherOS) was/is on the same hard disk as GameOS? So if your hard disk died your Linux would have died to
      You are also able within the GameOS to make backups. With CFW you can also backup trophies and put them back on the new HD.

      And PSN is free. Why be happy if a free thing is removed so you can never benifit from it yourself in the feature?

    58. makaveli101
      04-23-2011
      12:09 PM
      58

      they deserve it.

      if they want it to stop.

      Allow us to jailbreak.

      i'm an online gamer so if my services are removed... then so will my ps3.

    59. specie8470
      04-23-2011
      12:13 PM
      59

      This was a triumph!

    60. KillerBug
      04-23-2011
      12:15 PM
      60

      "PSN now, in the future I am sure we will be responsible for YLOD and more.. its a smart move."

      They are already messing with the fan speeds in older models using firmware updates; they don't need the PSN to cause YLODs...they just need people to upgrade their firmwares. That is a nice bonus because there will be some people who don't think the PSN is worth the money once sony starts charging...and Sony can still YLOD them with the update PUP that comes on the game disks.

      I would love to see a PSN exodus...if only xlink kai didn't require a PC or a high end router...just think, a whole online community, free of Sony, and with no trophy whores asking everyone to stand in a strait line so he can get a "3 kills with one shot" trophy.

    61. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      12:16 PM
      61

      Originally Posted by specie8470 View Post
      This was a triumph!
      For who?? Noone really knows what's even happened

    62. pizza
      04-23-2011
      12:18 PM
      62

      Originally Posted by pizza View Post
      hmm, when it was really a hacker, he owned all customers of PSN at once.

      Because Sony store every Creditcard number + all other informations on the servers
      (Many of these Informations are illegal to save, but you all know sony don't give a **** about something called "LAW"...)
      ..for the ones who understand german look at the PDF which was posted on PS3crunch from a german EU guy which wants to get against sony...
      (http://ps3crunch.net/wp-content/uplo...ic_info_eu.pdf)
      even the security numbers of the Credit Cards are saved on the Servers...

      Haha to all the people who entered their real ID's + Credit Cards, because may be in the next few weeks or month you should watch for orders or money transfers you never did...
      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      Is that confirmed? I've never used PSN for anything at all other than syncing trophies, but I thought any CC transactions had to go through a 3rd party, and either way the CC account details cannot be kept on record by anyone other than your bank etc?
      Here a raw translation by me from the Document for the EU governement:
      ,,All Credit Card Informtions are sent to servers and saved on them.
      Included:
      • Name of the Owner
      • Creditnumber
      • Expiration Date
      • CVV Code (Security Code)
      From a permanet save the CVV code can be expected, since in subsequent transactions, the CVV is not required to be entered again.
      *sry for the poor translation, have not much time*

    63. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      12:19 PM
      63

      "and with no trophy whores asking everyone to stand in a strait line so he can get a "3 kills with one shot" trophy."

      Please tell me you are kidding with that?
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by pizza View Post
      Here a raw translation by me from the Document for the EU governement:
      ,,All Credit Card Informtions are sent to servers and saved on them.
      Included:
      • Name of the Owner
      • Creditnumber
      • Expiration Date
      • CVV Code (Security Code)
      From a permanet save the CVV code can be expected, since in subsequent transactions, the CVV is not required to be entered again.
      *sry for the poor translation, have not much time*
      Thanks. I make regular online CC payments. Most I have to fill in full details, but the 2 that I don't are redirected to a seperate finace company and even then I have to confirm my online transactions account password (not CCV) on a final page from my bank.

      Mine are not strictly Credit Cards though, just TSB VISA Debit cards linked to my accounts with TSB so it may be different with them to a stand alone Credit Card?

    64. zaspan
      04-23-2011
      12:31 PM
      64

      Originally Posted by OoZic View Post
      You do know Linux (OtherOS) was/is on the same hard disk as GameOS? So if your hard disk died your Linux would have died to
      You are also able within the GameOS to make backups. With CFW you can also backup trophies and put them back on the new HD.

      And PSN is free. Why be happy if a free thing is removed so you can never benifit from it yourself in the feature?
      my hard disk in my pc

    65. B4yron
      04-23-2011
      12:34 PM
      65

      @zaspan Next time buy a soft disk, maybe it will last longer.

    66. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      12:34 PM
      66

      Christ we almost missed another piece of "exciting" news while this PSN stuff is going down.

      For one man in Finland took the Giant Crab before the Finnish Consumers Complaint Board and they agreed with.... HIM! (OK weren't a court case but still a small tiny win in the right direction).

      See more: http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=22232

      And now back to your regular programming...


      On topic: Sony Sucks! Yeah! Wooo! [Gives Up]

    67. Rax909
      04-23-2011
      12:45 PM
      67

      mhm SOny was PWNED by Finland. I <3 it. And ya about the whole cred info, that reminds me they wont be able to do anything with my info. I never updated my card info on it. lol It is a old card number, one that isnt trackable anymore. So it's useless. lol I haven't been on the PSN in over 2 years. And even then I wasn't buying anything. So I am safer then most are. The morons that depend on psn and useless online gaming have been slapped in the face.

    68. OoZic
      04-23-2011
      01:00 PM
      68

      Originally Posted by zaspan View Post
      my hard disk in my pc
      Sorry, didn't read that. But the 10Gb - OtherOS install = only a few Gb.
      And for most of us that is not enough for backup Windows/Linux. So wasn't even thinking you would use OtherOS for backup. A cheap 4Gb USB stick has more space for backup I think.

    69. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      01:02 PM
      69

      hmmm.. before we all panic and cancel our credit/debit cards.. which we know we shouldn't have given to sony in the first place! especially in light of their crap non-encryption of this data :facepalm:

      It may be best to put that phone down and wait to hear the final verdict before you act. If Sony was indeed hacked and this info was stolen... Sony will be so bent over they would be able to kiss their a$$.

    70. Annelies
      04-23-2011
      01:07 PM
      70

      Originally Posted by DaveOMac View Post
      If Sony was indeed hacked and this info was stolen... Sony will be so bent over they would be able to kiss their a$$.
      I think that would be the complete end of PlayStation.


      Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk

    71. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      01:10 PM
      71

      Originally Posted by DaveOMac View Post
      hmmm.. before we all panic and cancel our credit/debit cards.. which we know we shouldn't have given to sony in the first place! especially in light of their crap non-encryption of this data :facepalm:

      It may be best to put that phone down and wait to hear the final verdict before you act. If Sony was indeed hacked and this info was stolen... Sony will be so bent over they would be able to kiss their a$$.
      I know a woman who can bend over and kiss her own **** *Angelic Look*

    72. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      01:24 PM
      72

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      I know a woman who can bend over and kiss her own **** *Angelic Look*
      lol... I try to keep mum locked in the cellar but she keeps on escaping. Am sorry Wolfie but you should see what she can do with a pogo stick and a ping-pong ball, that'll turn your hair white.

    73. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      01:26 PM
      73

      Originally Posted by DaveOMac View Post
      lol... I try to keep mum locked in the cellar but she keeps on escaping. Am sorry Wolfie but you should see what she can do with a pogo stick and a ping-pong ball, that'll turn your hair white.
      You are a sick sick puppy!

    74. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      01:29 PM
      74

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      You are a sick sick puppy!
      I meant she could play table tennis while jumping on a childs toy... tis you with the dirt track mind! you should be ashamed!! :-p

    75. dave4321
      04-23-2011
      01:35 PM
      75

      Well i have no sympathy at all for sony .....what did they expect we would all roll over and do what the master wanted.......actually hope more happens psn is crap anyway !!

    76. Annelies
      04-23-2011
      02:13 PM
      76

      Originally Posted by dave4321 View Post
      actually hope more happens psn is crap anyway !!
      So you hope that PS+ members won't be able to enjoy their benefits? You hope that nobody can play with their friends & family online?

      That's really selfish of you.


      Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk

    77. NoGood
      04-23-2011
      02:24 PM
      77

      Anonymous could have done it, while at the same time they did not.
      Everyone should know this by now ...

      Anonops is not speaking for all of Anon.
      Just saying...

    78. SniperSnake
      04-23-2011
      03:36 PM
      78

      honestly i think that the whole rebug cfws and the ability to log into dev psn and trick into the retail psn on rebug s the real reason why psn is down. sony saw that people were still circumventing their psn cfw blocks and trying to figure out a way to stop it. its taking longer than expected so sony "turned off" the psn for "maintenance" aka figure out a way to block rebuged ps3s

    79. Pockets69
      04-23-2011
      04:06 PM
      79

      the way i see it fixed is issuing a new firmware update for debug machines, which comes with a new firmware update for retails... oh well... you were told....

    80. Philious
      04-23-2011
      04:14 PM
      80

      I agree with sniper snake, in fact Mathieulth tweeted earlier today saying the same thing, more than likely the rebug users taking the piss on the Dev servers have forced sonys hand. Just takes the piss they're blaming hackers (when anyone on rebug is really just a script kiddie to be fair).

      I tweeted him and he retweeted it earlier,

      RT @Philious @Mathieulh so they're inferring it's hackers despite it being the idiots using rebug on their Dev servers lol, Sony suck arse!

      I'm more inclined to believe him and it seems more plausable than DDOS bringing down psn, anon dont actually have a clue (they posted a video update earlier today claiming that it may have been a splinter faction of anon users but not anon itself) but surely psn wouldnt be vunerable to such attack (would be strange for Sony not to protect against such an attack).

      That and he's been right about most things ps3 most of the time.

    81. edokassiah
      04-23-2011
      04:32 PM
      81

      lol fu*k $0ny
      kudos to whoever hacked the gibson lol

    82. BobbyBlunt
      04-23-2011
      04:34 PM
      82

      Personally I think it is crap. A few hundred rebug users online compared to the millions on PSN worldwide, and they take it down. That and with free Xbox live weekend going on this would be a dumb move by Sony. Destroy the online experience for millions to stop a small fraction of people that use a cfw? I don't know what happened, and I dont care, but anyone on the said dev networks right now is asking for it. Almost 300 people on SP-INT playing CoD BO. Well since PSN is down and people are still somehow accessing game servers I think Sony may finally start swinging the ban hammer. If you are on a dev network you deserved to banned. I have warned people, devs have warned people, staff here has warned people. Nobody wants to listen to our warnings.

    83. ibivibiv
      04-23-2011
      04:52 PM
      83

      I am very curious to see what all of this (and I mean ALL of what has happened) does to $ony's sales numbers. If PS3 was my primary or only box I would be out buying an xbox 360 at this point and never looking back. I imagine $ony is wishing they never even entered the gaming business right about now lol. It's not like there are hordes of people hacking TVs and bluray players lol.

    84. Pockets69
      04-23-2011
      05:11 PM
      84

      Hey everyone! it seems the best online service xbox live is free, lets all move

      Microsoft would have this fixed in 4 hours these guys are taking days!

    85. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      05:22 PM
      85

      BS to the rebug theory, BS to the hacker theory. The system is down because of some ballsup within sony.

      I was checking the news and found this little tip-bit:

      http://venturebeat.com/2011/04/19/so...ive-wednesday/

      So this update was supposedly to go live on Wednesday and shortly afterwards the entire system craps out. Could it be this "update" is the true reason behind it all. Most likely so far, we all know that the system was shutdown by Sony its not that it is currently being attacked. We also know if it was an attack, Sony would have swapped servers, changed IP's, DNS and the rest of that technical cr@pola they did with the Anonymous attacks, which took the Corporate giant hours to fix not days!!

      Things just aren't adding up. At least Amazon who's cloud service (well parts of it) went down on Thursday have been straight with its info and is regually updating their customers. Take a note here Sony from Amazon.. the truth shall set you free.

      I bet that the problem is fixed already its just taking Sony some time to put some kind of spin on the fact it balls'd up. Most likely "We at Sony can confirm that due to the supposed Playstation Life update, parts of our system failed. To be safe and reduce the risk of damage and data loss we closed down the Playstation network temporary until this issue was resolved. We apologise for this HOWEVER due to the recent attacks by Anonymous, the hacking community constantly circumventing our systems and the dev network our focus was elsewhere.. we failed to test this update fully. Blah blah blah.. BS.. BS.. BS.. all in all its the hackers fault, they are evil and they eat babies by the way"

    86. Pockets69
      04-23-2011
      05:26 PM
      86

      Dave, Dave... we never expected sony to tell us the truth now did we?

    87. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      05:28 PM
      87

      It does have a ring of truth to it, and if their updates for Home are like the ones for the PS3, then they will of course not be able to go back to what is was before lol

    88. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      05:39 PM
      88

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      Dave, Dave... we never expected sony to tell us the truth now did we?
      It just pisses me off. It was all about PIRACY last week, its HACKERS this week.. what about next week. Well as its Easter i'm sure JESUS will be mentioned.. might as well offend the christians, Sony have insulted everyone else.. especially insulted our intelligence.

    89. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      05:44 PM
      89

      Originally Posted by DaveOMac View Post
      Sony have insulted everyone else.. especially insulted our intelligence.
      Did you miss that part of the ToS? We have to have a frontal lobotomy when we buy a PS3

    90. onenut
      04-23-2011
      05:47 PM
      90

      phuck them up good boyz
      bahahah
      **** you sony
      bahahah

    91. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      06:01 PM
      91

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      Did you miss that part of the ToS? We have to have a frontal lobotomy when we buy a PS3
      Arh but to buy something usually means you own it afterwards but all this started because in sonys eyes we don't.

      What is this ToS? Whats it mean? Talking Outta Sh1tter maybe?

    92. rbober316
      04-23-2011
      06:08 PM
      92

      Here is a video of what happened at the meeting wednesday...
      CLICK HERE VIDEO PSN!

    93. DaveOMac
      04-23-2011
      06:12 PM
      93

      Originally Posted by rbober316 View Post
      Here is a video of what happened at the meeting wednesday...
      CLICK HERE VIDEO PSN!
      Nice vid. It was like being there lol

    94. vgturtle127
      04-23-2011
      06:19 PM
      94

      Does anyone happen to know if Sony made any announcement that they could ever do this (meaning shut the PSN down) without telling us? Or does it say anywhere in the EULA? (Which I read, but didn't see anything about it)

    95. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      06:27 PM
      95

      Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt View Post
      Personally I think it is crap. A few hundred rebug users online compared to the millions on PSN worldwide, and they take it down. That and with free Xbox live weekend going on this would be a dumb move by Sony. Destroy the online experience for millions to stop a small fraction of people that use a cfw? I don't know what happened, and I dont care, but anyone on the said dev networks right now is asking for it. Almost 300 people on SP-INT playing CoD BO. Well since PSN is down and people are still somehow accessing game servers I think Sony may finally start swinging the ban hammer. If you are on a dev network you deserved to banned. I have warned people, devs have warned people, staff here has warned people. Nobody wants to listen to our warnings.
      Some of you people are pathetic!!


      PSN is attacked by a hacker, and you blame SONY????


      A hacker gains access to YOUR credit card info, Sony does an immediate emergency shutdown, to protect YOUR info, and you blame SONY???


      Sony keeps the servers down until they can determine that it's safe to go online again, are most likely upgrading the security to make it harder to be attacked again, and you blame SONY????


      The hacker picked a holiday weekend to do the attack, and you blame SONY????

    96. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      06:27 PM
      96

      Originally Posted by vgturtle127 View Post
      Does anyone happen to know if Sony made any announcement that they could ever do this (meaning shut the PSN down) without telling us? Or does it say anywhere in the EULA? (Which I read, but didn't see anything about it)
      It does say something about they can do what they want without telling anyone, so Yes, shutting down PSN would be included in that lol

    97. onenut
      04-23-2011
      06:32 PM
      97

      as long as they are losing money i don't give a **** how long it stays down
      **** you Fony!!!

    98. japsander
      04-23-2011
      06:32 PM
      98

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Some of you people are pathetic!!


      PSN is attacked by a hacker, and you blame SONY????


      A hacker gains access to YOUR credit card info, Sony does an immediate emergency shutdown, to protect YOUR info, and you blame SONY???


      Sony keeps the servers down until they can determine that it's safe to go online again, are most likely upgrading the security to make it harder to be attacked again, and you blame SONY????


      The hacker picked a holiday weekend to do the attack, and you blame SONY????
      can you shed any info that proves it isnt sonys fault?

      and as for the "emergency" shutdown to protect our security, they are breaking the law if they keep all our info on file. nobody is permitted to keep our bank details/security on file apart from the banks themselves. if sony do not go through a trusted third party, then our details must not be saved by them on their servers.

      yes i blame sony, no i dont care about PSN and if they are to blame, i hope they are legally raped

    99. GregoryRasputin
      04-23-2011
      06:35 PM
      99

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      PSN is attacked by a hacker, and you blame SONY????

      There is no credible proof or statements from Sony that says it is hackers.

    100. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      06:35 PM
      100

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      can you shed any info that proves it isnt sonys fault?
      His all emcompassing love and devotion for Sony?

    101. vgturtle127
      04-23-2011
      06:36 PM
      101

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      It does say something about they can do what they want without telling anyone, so Yes, shutting down PSN would be included in that lol
      Well, that seems like an odd thing to put in a EULA...Oh wait everyone does that. LOL. Man, I really want to get some sort of clearance as to what exactly this whole thing is about. Does Sony not care about modded lobby's? Does Sony just not like people circumventing their protection? By the way, how exactly would someone obtain someones credit card info? Sony uses encryption just like others, as well as nobody has access to the encrypted server data, even with a jailbroken PS3. Why is anyone even talking about that? I have never had any problems with it, and I'm pretty loose with my info! LOL. Just wondering. By the way, I'm new to PS3Hax, so everyone try to be nice. LOL.

    102. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      06:36 PM
      102

      Some of you people are pathetic!!


      PSN is attacked by a hacker, and you blame SONY????


      A hacker gains access to YOUR credit card info, Sony does an immediate emergency shutdown, to protect YOUR info, and you blame SONY???


      Sony keeps the servers down until they can determine that it's safe to go online again, are most likely upgrading the security to make it harder to be attacked again, and you blame SONY????

      The hacker picked a holiday weekend to do the attack, and you blame SONY????

      If you have balls Go again Steam EA Activision in PCs games who dont leave you play online at official Servers.
      Xbox LIve leave you use the Jtag Xbox on Xbox LIve Because XBOX sucks is almost Dead.
      All new games have downgrade for Xbox copability and new Black Ops sucks because created at Xbox.
      So stop blame Sony and Blame Microsoft for poor quality games and blackmail.
      Microsoft pay Billions to take exclusive 1 Day games because the console is DEAD and afraid to create a new before learn the plans of SONY.
      SONY is always 10 step forwoard from Xbox.
      WAKE UP!!!!

    103. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      06:40 PM
      103

      Originally Posted by vgturtle127 View Post
      Well, that seems like an odd thing to put in a EULA...Oh wait everyone does that. LOL. Man, I really want to get some sort of clearance as to what exactly this whole thing is about. Does Sony not care about modded lobby's? Does Sony just not like people circumventing their protection? By the way, how exactly would someone obtain someones credit card info? Sony uses encryption just like others, as well as nobody has access to the encrypted server data, even with a jailbroken PS3. Why is anyone even talking about that? I have never had any problems with it, and I'm pretty loose with my info! LOL. Just wondering. By the way, I'm new to PS3Hax, so everyone try to be nice. LOL.
      I really think it has gone past normal security and keeping a level playing field for Sony (more specifically SCEA). I think it has come to the point where they are just refusing to lose face in any of this no matter what it does to their customers, and in all honesty they do not seem to care much about their customers as even with the PSN being out for days they are still not really keeping people informed of what is happening and how much they are doing to sort it.

      PS3 is a good piece of kit, but Sony are sh*te on customer relations.

    104. GregoryRasputin
      04-23-2011
      06:40 PM
      104

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Some of you people are pathetic!!


      PSN is attacked by a hacker, and you blame SONY????


      Microsoft pay Billions to take exclusive 1 Day games because the console is DEAD and afraid to create a new before learn the plans of SONY.
      SONY is always 10 step forwoard from Xbox.
      WAKE UP!!!!
      Can you show proof that a hacker attacked PSN ?
      Can you prove that this is not due to Sony's stupidity ?
      Can you see past the blindness of your PS3 fanboyism ?

    105. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      06:42 PM
      105

      AND DONT FORGET
      PS3 dont hacked by GeohAnorimus but from a dongle who appear in market without nobody knows who created.
      That have accepts Overflow team at Hack community.
      So stop support that silly rich bart boy Geohot who takes mom money and play with gadgets.
      Geohot never jailbreak Iphone Geohot is just a Front Door of serius Hackers.
      Is just a Dummy

    106. japsander
      04-23-2011
      06:42 PM
      106

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Some of you people are pathetic!!


      PSN is attacked by a hacker, and you blame SONY????


      A hacker gains access to YOUR credit card info, Sony does an immediate emergency shutdown, to protect YOUR info, and you blame SONY???


      Sony keeps the servers down until they can determine that it's safe to go online again, are most likely upgrading the security to make it harder to be attacked again, and you blame SONY????

      The hacker picked a holiday weekend to do the attack, and you blame SONY????

      If you have balls Go again Steam EA Activision in PCs games who dont leave you play online at official Servers.
      Xbox LIve leave you use the Jtag Xbox on Xbox LIve Because XBOX sucks is almost Dead.
      All new games have downgrade for Xbox copability and new Black Ops sucks because created at Xbox.
      So stop blame Sony and Blame Microsoft for poor quality games and blackmail.
      Microsoft pay Billions to take exclusive 1 Day games because the console is DEAD and afraid to create a new before learn the plans of SONY.
      SONY is always 10 step forwoard from Xbox.
      WAKE UP!!!!
      sony is 10 steps forward? the last time i checked, xbox live was still up, people continued to hack their xbox's and nobody loses out except pirates playing rips online, MS arent going all out on people trying to regain their purchased ability, they are not trying to cover up their major fails, they are not removing features that play a major part of their sales.

      but maybe you are right, care to shed a little light?

    107. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      06:45 PM
      107

      warning

      Warning

      stop insulting our members. it is nobody here attacking psn, just because you dont care for linux doesnt mean we should accept it blindly. would you be happy if they left linux and removed gameplay?



    108. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      06:45 PM
      108

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Some of you people are pathetic!!


      PSN is attacked by a hacker, and you blame SONY????


      A hacker gains access to YOUR credit card info, Sony does an immediate emergency shutdown, to protect YOUR info, and you blame SONY???


      Sony keeps the servers down until they can determine that it's safe to go online again, are most likely upgrading the security to make it harder to be attacked again, and you blame SONY????

      The hacker picked a holiday weekend to do the attack, and you blame SONY????

      If you have balls Go again Steam EA Activision in PCs games who dont leave you play online at official Servers.
      Xbox LIve leave you use the Jtag Xbox on Xbox LIve Because XBOX sucks is almost Dead.
      All new games have downgrade for Xbox copability and new Black Ops sucks because created at Xbox.
      So stop blame Sony and Blame Microsoft for poor quality games and blackmail.
      Microsoft pay Billions to take exclusive 1 Day games because the console is DEAD and afraid to create a new before learn the plans of SONY.
      SONY is always 10 step forwoard from Xbox.
      WAKE UP!!!!
      I have 2 testicles thank you. Would you like to suck one instead of insulting people that do not have closed minds like you?

      I don't say it IS Sony, what I do say is that there is no REAL evidence of who it is and Sony ARE to blame for that as even a little script kiddie can find out what has brought a network down in hours not days.

      Please feel free to insult me directly........ Or you could go look at the trolling video for lessons if that helps?

      Have a nice day

    109. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      06:46 PM
      109

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      I really think it has gone past normal security and keeping a level playing field for Sony (more specifically SCEA). I think it has come to the point where they are just refusing to lose face in any of this no matter what it does to their customers, and in all honesty they do not seem to care much about their customers as even with the PSN being out for days they are still not really keeping people informed of what is happening and how much they are doing to sort it.

      PS3 is a good piece of kit, but Sony are sh*te on customer relations.
      You want turn on PSN?
      Dont blame SONY after about they hacking your account Dude.
      Wake up is 69 millions users, if they hack their accounts they 69 millions loose moneys.
      You want play now and who pay for you???
      Remember next days we see a lot of people loose their hack gadgets and go to court

    110. BobbyBlunt
      04-23-2011
      06:49 PM
      110

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Some of you people are pathetic!!


      PSN is attacked by a hacker, and you blame SONY????


      A hacker gains access to YOUR credit card info, Sony does an immediate emergency shutdown, to protect YOUR info, and you blame SONY???


      Sony keeps the servers down until they can determine that it's safe to go online again, are most likely upgrading the security to make it harder to be attacked again, and you blame SONY????


      The hacker picked a holiday weekend to do the attack, and you blame SONY????
      Why did you quote me? Apparently you can't read if you took my post as me blaming Sony or hackers. Nobody really knows what happened. The post you quoted was mainly about the dev networks and how nobody belongs on them. Get a high school diploma then come back and make some sense. Sony admitted they shut down PSN so how does that make me or anyone else pathetic?

    111. Annelies
      04-23-2011
      06:49 PM
      111

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      wonder whoz gonna be the 1st prick to comment on spelling or grammer,because all you lot are so cleaver!!!!!! lol i love it
      I am very tempted to correct all grammatical errors in your post....but I'm using my iPod Touch and I'm not that pro.


      Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk

    112. japsander
      04-23-2011
      06:51 PM
      112

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Wake up is 69 millions users, if they hack their accounts they 69 millions loose moneys.
      it is illegal for sony to keep ALL of our details on record. they would be to blame

    113. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      06:52 PM
      113

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      You want turn on PSN?
      Dont blame SONY after about they hacking your account Dude.
      Wake up is 69 millions users, if they hack their accounts they 69 millions loose moneys.
      You want play now and who pay for you???
      Remember next days we see a lot of people loose their hack gadgets and go to court
      I don't use PSN 'dude', and Yes, me and others may end up in court etc (look at some of my other topic posts).

      I am with a lot of others who agree that bringing PSN down and using it with a hacked console (especially the DEV networks) is wrong, but until Sony can explain what has happened then the blame is weighted more on their side, as if if was a hacker attack do you Really think they could not have found it Very quickly and be stating catergorically (not possibly hinting at) that it IS hackers who have ruined the customers PSN time?

    114. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      06:53 PM
      114

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      I have 2 testicles thank you. Would you like to suck one instead of insulting people that do not have closed minds like you?

      I don't say it IS Sony, what I do say is that there is no REAL evidence of who it is and Sony ARE to blame for that as even a little script kiddie can find out what has brought a network down in hours not days.

      Please feel free to insult me directly........ Or you could go look at the trolling video for lessons if that helps?

      Have a nice day
      Maybe you have 2 testicles(you believe you are the hacker who can F**K up Steam EA and Activision Official Servers on PC )
      but i am sure you dont have use your testicles never ,except in your loved right handpalm(you are the Master of Handjob).
      I agree no real evidence but we have anauthorised acces in PSN ad PSN for Developers from some DUDES.
      You want keep leave it PSN ON untill the F**K up all PSN and we have REAL Evidence?
      Are you have brain damage DUDE????
      Think First, Write After.

    115. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      06:54 PM
      115

      please explain to me what is sooooo god damn great about having linux on a bloody games console...yes GAMES CONSOLE?????????

    116. GregoryRasputin
      04-23-2011
      06:55 PM
      116

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Think First, Write After.

      You should take that into consideration yourself.


      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      please explain to me what is sooooo god damn great about having linux on a bloody games console...yes GAMES CONSOLE?????????

      Its not a games console and anyone who thinks it is, is a complete moron.

    117. japsander
      04-23-2011
      06:57 PM
      117

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Maybe you have 2 testicles(you believe you are the hacker who can F**K up Steam EA and Activision Official Servers on PC )
      but i am sure you dont have use your testicles never ,except in your loved right handpalm(you are the Master of Handjob).
      I agree no real evidence but we have anauthorised acces in PSN ad PSN for Developers from some DUDES.
      You want keep leave it PSN ON untill the F**K up all PSN and we have REAL Evidence?
      Are you have brain damage DUDE????
      Think First, Write After.
      you have no evidence, so stop blaming US
      if you care to read a little (its not that hard) you will see that many of us are in strict disagreement in the unauthorised acess to psn.
      sony said they switched off, why couldnt they simply block the "hacker" and why is there no proof of ANY hacker?

      Think First, Write After

      you bought your ps3 as a games console??? you were a bit slow then. we had a couple of years where it was sold as a computer that "only does everything"

    118. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      06:58 PM
      118

      warning

      Warning

      no flaming



    119. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      06:59 PM
      119

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Maybe you have 2 testicles(you believe you are the hacker who can F**K up Steam EA and Activision Official Servers on PC )
      but i am sure you dont have use your testicles never ,except in your loved right handpalm(you are the Master of Handjob).
      I agree no real evidence but we have anauthorised acces in PSN ad PSN for Developers from some DUDES.
      You want keep leave it PSN ON untill the F**K up all PSN and we have REAL Evidence?
      Are you have brain damage DUDE????
      Think First, Write After.
      I have a Degree and Diploma in testicular management thank you, and if you can actually read (as you do seem to struggle to type coherently?) then re-read what I have written (both this thread and others) and (if I understand your apalling grammar and syntax) you will find that I want the PSN hacks to stop, I do not support piracy, but I Do want Sony to stop laying down the law and give me access to the machine which I own and Not remove features which it was sold to me with.

    120. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      06:59 PM
      120

      Is not a script Dude.
      Is not your poor PC with XP to fix it.
      Is the entire PS network ,the new banhammer , the services for online rent movies music etc ,andis how keep out those Dudes who access network with CFW and F**k up our games like MW2.
      Do you remember how they F**k up the MW2?
      One of the best games and now we must play this Black Ops the biggest **** in History of COD.
      We talk about Billions in money who must protect and we dont talk for some kids who want go online.
      I play every day online but i dont blame Sony for that and believe me they informer you when finish when close all security doors.
      Sony have war against hackers you believe is normal to post what they do and where is the problem?????
      Nobody gives information to enemy
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt View Post
      Why did you quote me? Apparently you can't read if you took my post as me blaming Sony or hackers. Nobody really knows what happened. The post you quoted was mainly about the dev networks and how nobody belongs on them. Get a high school diploma then come back and make some sense. Sony admitted they shut down PSN so how does that make me or anyone else pathetic?
      You ask to turn it on Dude
      i dont
      Bye looser
      I have 3 diploma but i dont talk Shi**y english.
      My language is Hellenic Αντε και γαμησου Βλακα

    121. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      07:02 PM
      121

      SO WHAT is sooo great about having linux on a mutimedia/games console super computer machine?????

    122. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      07:02 PM
      122

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      please explain to me what is sooooo god damn great about having linux on a bloody games console...yes GAMES CONSOLE?????????
      For me, it is because it was there when I bought it and even though I rarely used it, I paid money for a piece of kit that had it. I was not given a fair choice about it's removal. I was forced to remove it or not be able to play the latest games.

      I do not care at all about PSN, but I do like to play games as well as tinker with linux, and before you say it, Yes, linux is better on a PC, but using that nalogy, playing games is better on the PS3 than on my phone, but I still play games on my phone.

    123. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:03 PM
      123

      Is not my first language the english i dont care about gramss etc

    124. japsander
      04-23-2011
      07:03 PM
      124

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      SO WHAT is sooo great about having linux on a mutimedia/games console super computer machine?????
      it beats paying the cost of a home server. i dont play games much and if i can use it as a server instead of gathering dust i will ok?

    125. KLASHERRRR
      04-23-2011
      07:03 PM
      125

      Obvious fanboy is obvious

    126. Tcraw77813
      04-23-2011
      07:04 PM
      126

      Any more flaming and you will receive a temp ban.

    127. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:05 PM
      127

      Sorry i mess up with answers
      Is not going to you this answer Dude
      I mess up with quotes

    128. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      07:07 PM
      128

      and when your tinkering wolfie what are you doing??

      i think linux is a lame excuse,,like why did xbox get hacked..purely for piracy..and that is what the ps3 is hacked for....linux tinkering....lmao

    129. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:07 PM
      129

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      For me, it is because it was there when I bought it and even though I rarely used it, I paid money for a piece of kit that had it. I was not given a fair choice about it's removal. I was forced to remove it or not be able to play the latest games.

      I do not care at all about PSN, but I do like to play games as well as tinker with linux, and before you say it, Yes, linux is better on a PC, but using that nalogy, playing games is better on the PS3 than on my phone, but I still play games on my phone.
      Did you try never use Linux in PS3?
      Tell me the truth?
      Is so SLOW is just a Virtual OS
      More slow from a CPU 286 with 16MB memory and Windows Server in HDD

    130. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      07:08 PM
      130

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      it beats paying the cost of a home server. i dont play games much and if i can use it as a server instead of gathering dust i will ok?

      and isnt that why sony removed it because ppl where using it as a cheap alternative and the big companys where losing money??

    131. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:09 PM
      131

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      it beats paying the cost of a home server. i dont play games much and if i can use it as a server instead of gathering dust i will ok?
      Use a server in Virtual enviroment?
      You have never before install Linux in PS3 or you just make dreams?

    132. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      07:11 PM
      132

      japs be honest now how many games on your 1TB EXTERNAL hdd HAVE YOU GOT????

    133. japsander
      04-23-2011
      07:11 PM
      133

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Did you try never use Linux in PS3?
      Tell me the truth?
      Is so SLOW is just a Virtual OS
      More slow from a CPU 286 with 16MB memory and Windows Server in HDD
      LOL
      even when it was restricted it could perform better computational tasks than many modern day pc's.

      dont let your ignorance cloud your judgement of what hardware is capable of.
      sony gave us access to CELL cpu, they ****ed up, they try to undo the damage they caused. period.

      and FYI it can still encode video faster than many modern pc's using cuda, not to mention the speed it can crack passwords etc.....

    134. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:11 PM
      134

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      and isnt that why sony removed it because ppl where using it as a cheap alternative and the big companys where losing money??
      Sony created other OS with plan to publish a SONY OS
      SONY removed for two reasons.
      One is the hackers attack from Linux Os
      and the second is
      Because they Publish they own OS at PS4

    135. japsander
      04-23-2011
      07:12 PM
      135

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      japs be honest now how many games on your 1TB EXTERNAL hdd HAVE YOU GOT????
      around 15, why?

    136. BobbyBlunt
      04-23-2011
      07:14 PM
      136

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      LOL
      even when it was restricted it could perform better computational tasks than many modern day pc's.

      dont let your ignorance cloud your judgement of what hardware is capable of.
      sony gave us access to CELL cpu, they ****ed up, they try to undo the damage they caused. period.

      and FYI it can still encode video faster than many modern pc's using cuda, not to mention the speed it can crack passwords etc.....
      Let us put it like this to the Sony defending fanboys (not mentioning any names). If we still had linux then we had a legitimate way to play with code and the ppc architecture. The PS3 would have probably never been hacked to begin with if Linux was not removed. Don't believe me ask around and others will say the same.

      What happened to the discussion? Now it seems like a flame fest.

    137. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      07:14 PM
      137

      and you own all 15 games ofc you do

      so someone that admits he dosnt like palying gmes or the psn just randomly goes out spend 100.s pounds on games he never gonn aplay...ok

    138. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      07:16 PM
      138

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      and when your tinkering wolfie what are you doing??

      i think linux is a lame excuse,,like why did xbox get hacked..purely for piracy..and that is what the ps3 is hacked for....linux tinkering....lmao
      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Did you try never use Linux in PS3?
      Tell me the truth?
      Is so SLOW is just a Virtual OS
      More slow from a CPU 286 with 16MB memory and Windows Server in HDD
      Yes I tried it on PS3 and also on PC, and Yes, I think it is better on PC, but I am sh*te at it so I am not the one to say which is best.

      As I said before though, it is Not about whether it is better on PS3 or not, it Is about the Fact that the PS3 was sold to me with it advertised as a feature. Also have you Ever seen a PS3 game that says it needs a certain FW to be able to run? (the answer is No) This is not about PSN at all for me, and I think that if it Is being hacked then they are ruining the whole scene for everyone but Sony. It Is about me being able to use the PS3 As I Bought It with Any game I buy and use the features it was sold to me with.

      I was also not informed that my PS3 does not have the emotion engine etc to make it backward compatible. That was also one of the reasons I bought it as a friends does have it all (launch edition), but I accepted that although I already felt shafted by Sony even then.

      Do you now understand a wee bit better why I personally am so ****ed off with Sony?

    139. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:17 PM
      139

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      LOL
      even when it was restricted it could perform better computational tasks than many modern day pc's.

      dont let your ignorance cloud your judgement of what hardware is capable of.
      sony gave us access to CELL cpu, they ****ed up, they try to undo the damage they caused. period.

      and FYI it can still encode video faster than many modern pc's using cuda, not to mention the speed it can crack passwords etc.....
      YOu dream on
      When SOny take back OtherOS users have acces only in one core of cell and no acces to Video Card hardware.
      So i have right you DREAMON
      I told you before and i told you again
      OtherOS work in a virtual enviroment, you dont have acces to real hardware.
      And full access in Ps3 via Linux you have now after Failoverflow work and some other people.
      I agree with you i want use my PS3 as PC but if exist a danger to F**k my online game with Mods and Cheats NO THANKS I DONT WANT
      I work and i buy a i7 8core etc
      Did you ever have try to hack a WPA2 password with Cuda acceleration?
      Or you just type the big letters from articles?
      Even with Cuda you need sometimes a year to hack a password

    140. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      07:18 PM
      140

      im not a sony fanboy...i couldnt care less about sony..its just that attacking psn is effecting everyone...not only your community but the whole world,,,why should everyone suffer just because you wanna "tinker" with linux?

    141. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      07:22 PM
      141

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      YOu dream on
      When SOny take back OtherOS users have acces only in one core of cell and no acces to Video Card hardware.
      So i have right you DREAMON
      I told you before and i told you again
      OtherOS work in a virtual enviroment, you dont have acces to real hardware.
      And full access in Ps3 via Linux you have now after Failoverflow work and some other people.
      I agree with you i want use my PS3 as PC but if exist a danger to F**k my online game with Mods and Cheats NO THANKS I DONT WANT
      I work and i buy a i7 8core etc
      Did you ever have try to hack a WPA2 password with Cuda acceleration?
      Or you just type the big letters from articles?
      Even with Cuda you need sometimes a year to hack a password
      Accepted that English may not be your first language, but do you have to insult everyone who does not agree with you?

    142. KLASHERRRR
      04-23-2011
      07:22 PM
      142

      @dizzy74

      "Because they Publish they own OS at PS4"

      Best quote ever. So what proof do you have of this? Cos from my point of view your a sony fanboy butthurt as PSN is down. So you thought to yourself "I know what i will do - Go and troll on a scene site,make up reasons as i go along and argue with respected members of that site All whilst typing with the grammar of a drunk gypsy"

    143. BobbyBlunt
      04-23-2011
      07:23 PM
      143

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      im not a sony fanboy...i couldnt care less about sony..its just that attacking psn is effecting everyone...not only your community but the whole world,,,why should everyone suffer just because you wanna "tinker" with linux?
      How ignorant are you? Us tinkering with Linux has nothing to do with Sony shutting down PSN. Yes it is affecting everyone. A lot of members here have 2 ps3s so we can use psn. I even attempted to start a petition because paid services such as Netflix, DC Universe and PS Plus are inaccessible. You saying that people choosing to mess around with linux is the cause, well I guess you might want to start blaming the U.S. Department of Defense, because they seem to love tinkering with PS3 Linux.

    144. japsander
      04-23-2011
      07:24 PM
      144

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      YOu dream on
      When SOny take back OtherOS users have acces only in one core of cell and no acces to Video Card hardware.
      So i have right you DREAMON
      I told you before and i told you again
      OtherOS work in a virtual enviroment, you dont have acces to real hardware.
      And full access in Ps3 via Linux you have now after Failoverflow work and some other people.
      I agree with you i want use my PS3 as PC but if exist a danger to F**k my online game with Mods and Cheats NO THANKS I DONT WANT
      I work and i buy a i7 8core etc
      Did you ever have try to hack a WPA2 password with Cuda acceleration?
      Or you just type the big letters from articles?
      Even with Cuda you need sometimes a year to hack a password
      dream on
      http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/77...ore-i7-965-xe/

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      and you own all 15 games ofc you do
      i owned more, but all the multiplayer ones such as mw2, bfbc2 i sold as i couldnt us them anymore. as i said, my ps3 is a dust gatherer and that is only because sony took the only other use for it away from me.

      dont judge me by your own standards !

      i own GRID = best racer
      gt5 = sucks but ps icon
      kz2 = not worth selling
      moh airborne = good for a blast
      borderlands = its cool
      modnation racers = blame my son, lol
      mass effect 2 = not a bad lengthy game
      oblivion = i may try to carry it on at some point
      the orange box = portal is ace
      UT3 = not worth selling
      uncharted 2 = quite good
      resistance 2 = never getting rid of it (its awesome)
      csi = the wifes
      lego star wars = the sons

      any other comments?

    145. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      07:24 PM
      145

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      im not a sony fanboy...i couldnt care less about sony..its just that attacking psn is effecting everyone...not only your community but the whole world,,,why should everyone suffer just because you wanna "tinker" with linux?
      Ok, you are obviously struggling to read my whole posts...


      I DO NOT SUPPORT IN ANY WAY ANY ATTACKS ON PSN

    146. vgturtle127
      04-23-2011
      07:25 PM
      146

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      I really think it has gone past normal security and keeping a level playing field for Sony (more specifically SCEA). I think it has come to the point where they are just refusing to lose face in any of this no matter what it does to their customers, and in all honesty they do not seem to care much about their customers as even with the PSN being out for days they are still not really keeping people informed of what is happening and how much they are doing to sort it.

      PS3 is a good piece of kit, but Sony are sh*te on customer relations.
      Yes, I totally agree. It's the best game console (even with Linux support removed). I'm not biased either, as I also own a 360 and PC. But I think that what Sony should do now, taking everything into account, is re-release GameOS as open source, tell game companies to make different lobbies for modders, and re-introduce Linux support. With all that, we could all contribute and have it be what WE wanted. Do you guys at least understand what I'm getting at? I'm not the kind of person that would drive a company underground either, but I just think removing Linux was a bad idea, as many companies bought it for it's extreme performance. US ARMY, R&D, etc.

      EDIT: I use Linux everyday, by the way WOLFIE. And with my experience, it ran better than on my custom built PC!

    147. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:25 PM
      147

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      Yes I tried it on PS3 and also on PC, and Yes, I think it is better on PC, but I am sh*te at it so I am not the one to say which is best.

      As I said before though, it is Not about whether it is better on PS3 or not, it Is about the Fact that the PS3 was sold to me with it advertised as a feature. Also have you Ever seen a PS3 game that says it needs a certain FW to be able to run? (the answer is No) This is not about PSN at all for me, and I think that if it Is being hacked then they are ruining the whole scene for everyone but Sony. It Is about me being able to use the PS3 As I Bought It with Any game I buy and use the features it was sold to me with.

      I was also not informed that my PS3 does not have the emotion engine etc to make it backward compatible. That was also one of the reasons I bought it as a friends does have it all (launch edition), but I accepted that although I already felt shafted by Sony even then.

      Do you now understand a wee bit better why I personally am so ****ed off with Sony?
      Brother wake up
      When PS3 go out never publish in any comercial you can have Linux on PS3
      And nobody buy it for Linux
      Linux matter is something go out after some months
      And Other Os created for other reasons no for Home user (like Folder Home)
      First PS3 have backward compability i have the Fat 60GB
      They informed at new PS3 no have bacward compability nobody cheating you
      Is good low cost without backward copability i agree.
      Who crazy buy PS3 to play PS and Ps 2 games?
      And i infor you again a P4 3.2 ghz with 512 mb is 5 times faster in Linux then PS3 official other OS with Virtual Enviroment One core no full acces to memory and video

    148. japsander
      04-23-2011
      07:26 PM
      148

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      im not a sony fanboy...i couldnt care less about sony..its just that attacking psn is effecting everyone...not only your community but the whole world,,,why should everyone suffer just because you wanna "tinker" with linux?
      we payed for linux. who has the right to take it away?
      you did not pay for psn, it is free!

      we did not remove psn. sony did by their own admission

    149. japsander
      04-23-2011
      07:27 PM
      149

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Brother wake up
      When PS3 go out never publish in any comercial you can have Linux on PS3
      And nobody buy it for Linux
      Linux matter is something go out after some months
      And Other Os created for other reasons no for Home user (like Folder Home)
      First PS3 have backward compability i have the Fat 60GB
      They informed at new PS3 no have bacward compability nobody cheating you
      Is good low cost without backward copability i agree.
      Who crazy buy PS3 to play PS and Ps 2 games?
      And i infor you again a P4 3.2 ghz with 512 mb is 5 times faster in Linux then PS3 official other OS with Virtual Enviroment One core no full acces to memory and video
      we had access to 6 cores actually, wake up dude"!!

      what is 6 x 3.2ghz??? with a cpu fast enough to compute all the data that the ram could push to it?

    150. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      07:29 PM
      150

      Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt View Post
      How ignorant are you? Us tinkering with Linux has nothing to do with Sony shutting down PSN. Yes it is affecting everyone. A lot of members here have 2 ps3s so we can use psn. I even attempted to start a petition because paid services such as Netflix, DC Universe and PS Plus are inaccessible. You saying that people choosing to mess around with linux is the cause, well I guess you might want to start blaming the U.S. Department of Defense, because they seem to love tinkering with PS3 Linux.
      i not saying that because you wanna tinker is the reason that psn was brought down..

      im saying that because linux has been removed FOREVER thats your excuse for hacking the system...

      but its not the reaon thats your excuse ..for piracy..

      why did the 360/wii/nds/ndsi get hacked....PIRACY

      yes sony removed otherOS backwards compabilys usbs...so what

      i have a pc laptop all at arms reach all next to my ps3 its no biggy.
      everythng they removed i can get on my laptop,,i can even play ps1/2 games on my pc

    151. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:31 PM
      151

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Brother wake up
      When PS3 go out never publish in any comercial you can have Linux on PS3
      And nobody buy it for Linux
      Linux matter is something go out after some months
      And Other Os created for other reasons no for Home user (like Folder Home)
      First PS3 have backward compability i have the Fat 60GB
      They informed at new PS3 no have bacward compability nobody cheating you
      Is good low cost without backward copability i agree.
      Who crazy buy PS3 to play PS and Ps 2 games?
      And i infor you again a P4 3.2 ghz with 512 mb is 5 times faster in Linux then PS3 official other OS with Virtual Enviroment One core no full acces to memory and video
      I watch PS3 scene for 3 years from this site i never post before except one time for Geoegoist.
      I am tired.
      Nobody put you a gun in head to buy a PS3
      And nobody told you you can play online without buy a game
      I have used PS1 PS2 hacked i fix many PS with mods chips over 40 all from friends
      But in PS3 i agree to pay because play Online is another way to enjoy the game.
      i am not rich like Geoegoist to buy my mom many gadget and games and i am not sell my knowledge to how to hack something .
      i am doing because i love to no spend money
      We cant have anything free
      Microsoft do it and let Jtag users to play online because want to be addicted to Xbox and buy next console
      You believe in new Xbox you can play with hacked Xbox 720?
      But some things diserve to pay

    152. BobbyBlunt
      04-23-2011
      07:31 PM
      152

      Hey guys a lot of us have taken part in the off topic discussion "Internet Trolls" We have gotten way off topic (including myself.) Just ignore the trolls, fanboys, spammers, etc. This thread had a point and it would be nice if we could get back to that point. We are just feeding them and in return we are all acting in ways we wouldn't normally act. We have proven certain people's stupidity so let us all stop feeding into it more.

    153. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      07:32 PM
      153

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Brother wake up
      When PS3 go out never publish in any comercial you can have Linux on PS3
      And nobody buy it for Linux
      Linux matter is something go out after some months
      And Other Os created for other reasons no for Home user (like Folder Home)
      First PS3 have backward compability i have the Fat 60GB
      They informed at new PS3 no have bacward compability nobody cheating you
      Is good low cost without backward copability i agree.
      Who crazy buy PS3 to play PS and Ps 2 games?
      And i infor you again a P4 3.2 ghz with 512 mb is 5 times faster in Linux then PS3 official other OS with Virtual Enviroment One core no full acces to memory and video


      Yes it was advertised with the ability to run OtherOS, No I was not informed it had removed features making it different from my friends (that changed with the slims, mine is a fat), Price is irrelavant to your arguments, I play Spectrum games on my PC and SNES ones (now thanks to CFW) on my PS3, I have already told you I am not the one to decide on what runs Linux best, and you are still struggling not to insult me aren't you? I am neither your brother, nor do I need instructions to wake up

    154. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:33 PM
      154

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      i not saying that because you wanna tinker is the reason that psn was brought down..

      im saying that because linux has been removed FOREVER thats your excuse for hacking the system...

      but its not the reaon thats your excuse ..for piracy..

      why did the 360/wii/nds/ndsi get hacked....PIRACY

      yes sony removed otherOS backwards compabilys usbs...so what

      i have a pc laptop all at arms reach all next to my ps3 its no biggy.
      everythng they removed i can get on my laptop,,i can even play ps1/2 games on my pc
      360 is full hacked and Jtag users play free online
      Wii is hacked but the games is for 6 years kids and for girls
      You have see the Graphics of Wii in Cod BO?

    155. BobbyBlunt
      04-23-2011
      07:35 PM
      155

      You brought up the Jtag. The jtag hack was made to run unsigned code. Flashing drives and Piracy existed way before the jtag.

    156. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      07:35 PM
      156

      also opening up the system so you guys can have your linux has opened a whole can off worms....cheats mods for games...example off this call of duty...no point even plying the game anymore..

      so you have your linux and you dont care off the reprocusions its has on ppl that couldnt care less about linux

    157. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:37 PM
      157

      Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt View Post
      Hey guys a lot of us have taken part in the off topic discussion "Internet Trolls" We have gotten way off topic (including myself.) Just ignore the trolls, fanboys, spammers, etc. This thread had a point and it would be nice if we could get back to that point. We are just feeding them and in return we are all acting in ways we wouldn't normally act. We have proven certain people's stupidity so let us all stop feeding into it more.
      You have right Dude
      But i go piss off ,for 3 years i read blah blah blah blah
      F**k Sony etc...
      If they dont like somethign dont they use it
      PS3 is hacked but nobody can ask to play online with CFW
      They F**k Up the best game MW2 with mods

    158. vgturtle127
      04-23-2011
      07:38 PM
      158

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      we had access to 6 cores actually, wake up dude"!!

      what is 6 x 3.2ghz??? with a cpu fast enough to compute all the data that the ram could push to it?
      First of all, as a computer engineer, I believe the way you are thinking of the CPU cores is wrong, and also when you said that a Pentium 4 running at 3.2Ghz with 512MB RAM ran Linux faster, and the PS3 ran it slowly, what kind of test environment did you have for this statement? Did both have the same BIOS? Did both have the same version of Linux? Was the hardware not being emulated in either OS? Are all the different variations of software up to date? There is no way anyone can say that any OS or even computer unit is faster based on the simple fact that you pop in a disc and give it a try. You have to take 7 or 8 separate machines with similar specs and benchmark, test, and debug until all the machines break. LOL. I'm just saying, jaspander. There is no proof, until proven. By the way, you are thinking of each core being a separate CPU, in all actuality it's based on your clock, fclock, FSB, etc. Just so you know!

    159. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      07:40 PM
      159

      anyway ppl sorry if i offend or come across as a fanboy...just sometimes this linux thing really frustrates me...peace

    160. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      07:40 PM
      160

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      also opening up the system so you guys can have your linux has opened a whole can off worms....cheats mods for games...example off this call of duty...no point even plying the game anymore..

      so you have your linux and you dont care off the reprocusions its has on ppl that couldnt care less about linux
      You really do miss the point don't you?

      Sighs........ Noone has forced anybody to pirate or cheat in an online game.

      Sony have forced me to remove something I had. Cheats will always cheat, so why whine at the people who are against pirates and cheats? Go tell the game server owners and they will stop them.

    161. japsander
      04-23-2011
      07:40 PM
      161

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      also opening up the system so you guys can have your linux has opened a whole can off worms....cheats mods for games...example off this call of duty...no point even plying the game anymore..

      so you have your linux and you dont care off the reprocusions its has on ppl that couldnt care less about linux
      what if your motherboard maker removed the ability for you to run windows? would you be pissed or nuthug?

      linux has no part in cheating whatsoever. it is an operating system, not a gaming system.
      if sony didnt remove it, this **** would not have happened.
      dont confuse hacking with piracy and cheating, its insulting and ignorant.
      and maybe sony should have thought about the repurcussions of removing a payed for feature!

      (thanks button FUBAR)

    162. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:41 PM
      162

      Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt View Post
      You brought up the Jtag. The jtag hack was made to run unsigned code. Flashing drives and Piracy existed way before the jtag.
      When i say Jtag i mean all the ways to hack Flash a Philips Liteon + etc hack tricks for Xbox
      I have follow Xbox scene because a lot of my friends ask me to hack they console.
      But i am owner of Ps3
      And the matter is Microsoft dont do anything to close the open doors in hacked Xbobxs
      All is a Marketing Trick and i see many kids to eat the worm from the bate
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      linux has no part in cheatingf whatsoever. it is an operating system, not a gaming system.
      if sony didnt remove it, this **** would not have happened.
      dont confuse hacking with piracy and cheating, its insulting and ignorant.
      and maybe sony should have thought about the repurcussions of removing a payed for feature!

      (thanks button FUBAR)
      Yeah removing LInux and make hackers piss off is a good lie.
      But if you remember via LInux Geoegoist dump memory from Ps3 and find a way to hack and run unsigned code
      Think one moment a a member of a company who pay millions to engineers to keep his console safe and stop think like kid who wants all candy in his mouth.
      And i read about Linux blah blah blah.
      We have a Power PC CPU and nobody have try to install MAC OS on PS3 why?

    163. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      07:45 PM
      163

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      what if your motherboard maker removed the ability for you to run windows? would you be pissed or nuthug?

      linux has no part in cheating whatsoever. it is an operating system, not a gaming system.
      if sony didnt remove it, this **** would not have happened.
      dont confuse hacking with piracy and cheating, its insulting and ignorant.
      and maybe sony should have thought about the repurcussions of removing a payed for feature!

      (thanks button FUBAR)
      i was under the impression that a system had to be hacked to be able to add mods/run code to games?

      and if the linux hadnt been removed the system wouldnt off been hacked ..thus preventing nob jockeys from ruining online gaming???

    164. vgturtle127
      04-23-2011
      07:46 PM
      164

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      360 is full hacked and Jtag users play free online
      Wii is hacked but the games is for 6 years kids and for girls
      You have see the Graphics of Wii in Cod BO?
      True, the Wii is for little kids and girls. 360 is extremely hacked yes. And yes, the Wii's graphics are horrible. But my question to you, Dizzy is have you ever tried running Dolphin, a GameCube/Wii emulator? It lets you have 1080p, new rendering methods, all kinds of stuff. Just in case you were interested....

    165. lantisearth
      04-23-2011
      07:46 PM
      165

      HA!
      if true (because phony can be lying about it) BOOM! right between their eyes! XD
      again, if this is true, I bet 10 bucks that things like this will only stop when they give up on pursuing people like graf
      for whoever is doing this: I respect you!

    166. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:47 PM
      166

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      what if your motherboard maker removed the ability for you to run windows? would you be pissed or nuthug?

      linux has no part in cheating whatsoever. it is an operating system, not a gaming system.
      if sony didnt remove it, this **** would not have happened.
      dont confuse hacking with piracy and cheating, its insulting and ignorant.
      and maybe sony should have thought about the repurcussions of removing a payed for feature!

      (thanks button FUBAR)
      And how you know who Distro of Linux is safe ,and what make you believe dont exist Virus and Trojans on Linux?
      I can make any distro you want and i put inside anything i like

    167. japsander
      04-23-2011
      07:48 PM
      167

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      i was under the impression that a system had to be hacked to be able to add mods to games?

      and if the linux hadnt been removed the system wouldnt off been hacked ..thus preventing nob jockeys from ruining online gaming???
      so you agree that if SONY didnt remove linux then the ps3 wouldnt have been hacked?

      BTW otheros and gameos are 2 very different things. its like dual booting your pc with linux/windows.

      and FYI the devs who bring back linux have no part in piracy/cheating/modding etc

    168. japsander
      04-23-2011
      07:50 PM
      168

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      And how you know who Distro of Linux is safe ,and what make you believe dont exist Virus and Trojans on Linux?
      I can make any distro you want and i put inside anything i like
      you install the distro of your choosing. for me, the official ubuntu 10.10 for ps3

      http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.10/release/
      yes, official sources are still providing for the ps3 community, only the ignorant are not aware

    169. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      07:50 PM
      169

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      When i say Jtag i mean all the ways to hack Flash a Philips Liteon + etc hack tricks for Xbox
      I have follow Xbox scene because a lot of my friends ask me to hack they console.
      But i am owner of Ps3
      And the matter is Microsoft dont do anything to close the open doors in hacked Xbobxs
      All is a Marketing Trick and i see many kids to eat the worm from the bate
      Can I just confirm this?

      You mod your friends XBOX's and then come on here slagging everyone off who is running CFW on their PS3 because Sony have shut down PSN for a few days?

      Look up HYPOCRITE in the dictionary then put the kettle on, I'm coming round for a coffee with you under your bridge

    170. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:50 PM
      170

      Originally Posted by vgturtle127 View Post
      True, the Wii is for little kids and girls. 360 is extremely hacked yes. And yes, the Wii's graphics are horrible. But my question to you, Dizzy is have you ever tried running Dolphin, a GameCube/Wii emulator? It lets you have 1080p, new rendering methods, all kinds of stuff. Just in case you were interested....
      I have use Dolphin because my cousin daughter want play Crash Bandicood on PC
      You believe Gamecube or Wii is the reason i Buy PS3?
      You want to tell me to put in my Suzuki GSXR 1000 K10 Yoshimura the moter from a Honda Duck 120cc and a Sebrick?

    171. vgturtle127
      04-23-2011
      07:51 PM
      171

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      what if your motherboard maker removed the ability for you to run windows? would you be pissed or nuthug?
      Well, they can't remove the ability to run windows unless they remove support for hard drives and ram too, which won't be happening. LOL.

    172. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      07:51 PM
      172

      but my argument is the system got hacked for piracy and that linux is a great excuss!!

      even the iphone..yeah best thing about jailbreaking the iphone is for free apps.....

      every single console/mobile phone..even tomtom have been hacked so that the user can get something for free....

      now sony are standing up to it..the first company to ever stand up to hackers..and there atacking sony left right and center..just because they want something for free??

    173. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      07:56 PM
      173

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      but my argument is the system got hacked for piracy and that linux is a great excuss!!

      even the iphone..yeah best thing about jailbreaking the iphone is for free apps.....

      every single console/mobile phone..even tomtom have been hacked so that the user can get something for free....

      now sony are standing up to it..the first company to ever stand up to hackers..and there atacking sony left right and center..just because they want something for free??
      I agree with you that it was originally hacked for piracy, but CFW and the work Graf is/was doing is much more than that.

      I have no problem with Sony standing up against pirates, but hacker does Not mean pirate and the way Sony are doing is it disgusting in my opinion, the same way that DDoS attacks etc are wrong.

    174. vgturtle127
      04-23-2011
      07:56 PM
      174

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      I have use Dolphin because my cousin daughter want play Crash Bandicot on PC
      You believe GameCube or Wii is the reason i Buy PS3?
      You want to tell me to put in my Suzuki GSXR 1000 K10 Yoshimura the motor from a Honda Duck 120cc and a Sebrick?
      No, I was just telling you about the emulator. I understood that you bought the PS3 for gaming or whatever the only reason I replied to the post was to be informative, I wasn't flaming you or insulting you, at least not on purpose. I didn't mean any disrespect, I was just telling you I use Dolphin instead of buying a Wii, so I can enjoy the better graphics and sound and compatibilty and 400 other things. LOL. Apologies, friend.

    175. japsander
      04-23-2011
      07:57 PM
      175

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      but my argument is the system got hacked for piracy and that linux is a great excuss!!

      even the iphone..yeah best thing about jailbreaking the iphone is for free apps.....

      every single console/mobile phone..even tomtom have been hacked so that the user can get something for free....

      now sony are standing up to it..the first company to ever stand up to hackers..and there atacking sony left right and center..just because they want something for free??
      wrong.
      microsoft ban the console, is that not standing up?
      what did microsoft/nintendo remove from the advertised product?
      the fact is that people bought the ps3 (fat) ewhich came with a computer status!
      sony took the status away!
      name me one dev responsible of enabling piracy that was involved with bringing back linux.

      the ppl that enabled piracy are the dongle makers. go ***** at them!

      and fyi, i have an itouch 3g and the best thing is itether (a paid cydia app) that allows me to use the internet over my phones bluetooth connection.

      you seem to be romanced with piracy! we are not all about piracy.

    176. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      07:58 PM
      176

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      Can I just confirm this?

      You mod your friends XBOX's and then come on here slagging everyone off who is running CFW on their PS3 because Sony have shut down PSN for a few days?

      Look up HYPOCRITE in the dictionary then put the kettle on, I'm coming round for a coffee with you under your bridge
      Dude i am not rich
      I like play games free
      But i am not egoist
      I dont ask to play online games free
      If i have it seconds PS3 be sure i have leave it on 3.55 Kmew CFW
      I am in the scene from 9 years
      My first computer is a BBC 16K ,16kb is the memory and work with tape
      I use Spectrum Comodore 64 Amstrad 464 628 Amiga 512k and after i go to PCs with 8086 80286 386 486 etc
      In all this machine i use pirates software
      That we do the kids in neighberhood we dont have rich parrents
      We find our way to pay and trade information
      But to f**k a company who make me for over 10 years to enjoy the games because i want play online and f**k the game of other people to make my day i dont do it
      I say again some things is good to pay
      I have buy 4 games and i play online
      I go to Video Club and i rent games for 3 4 days and play if i want
      I buy 2 games every year
      One football one war game and GT5
      Thats all
      I want play for free i dream for this
      But dont forget somebody work to create those games and take money for this
      So respect
      If you have complain make it against Video games companies with highprices games
      No to consoles
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      wrong.
      microsoft ban the console, is that not standing up?
      what did microsoft/nintendo remove from the advertised product?
      the fact is that people bought the ps3 (fat) ewhich came with a computer status!
      sony took the status away!
      name me one dev responsible of enabling piracy that was involved with bringing back linux.

      the ppl that enabled piracy are the dongle makers. go ***** at them!

      and fyi, i have an itouch 3g and the best thing is itether (a paid cydia app) that allows me to use the internet over my phones bluetooth connection.

      you seem to be romanced with piracy! we are not all about piracy.
      Nobody when the Ps3 came out write on Box you can install Linux
      And never Sony use Other Os to sale the PS3
      Dude th Site named PS3 HAX no Official PS3
      The games is overpriced and with Activision Leader they make kids addicted to spend money for map packs etc.
      Activision sucks good games but in marketing is robber.
      In one year 2 Assasins Creed and 2 COD
      They run to collect money with out gives as something new
      THE ONLY REAL PIRATE TEAM I KNOW AND I RESPECT IS PARADOX
      They help me over 20 years to enjoy games

    177. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      08:04 PM
      177

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      wrong.
      microsoft ban the console, is that not standing up?
      what did microsoft/nintendo remove from the advertised product?
      the fact is that people bought the ps3 (fat) ewhich came with a computer status!
      sony took the status away!
      name me one dev responsible of enabling piracy that was involved with bringing back linux.

      the ppl that enabled piracy are the dongle makers. go ***** at them!

      and fyi, i have an itouch 3g and the best thing is itether (a paid cydia app) that allows me to use the internet over my phones bluetooth connection.

      you seem to be romanced with piracy! we are not all about piracy.
      it makes me angry becuse this linuxs argument is dragging the whole psn community into it,,we are all being affected by this now,,even the ppl that couldnt care less

      i,ll agree with you there japs ,im a bit obbssesed with the piracy.

      and i,ll agree that probally not everyone on this forum is into free games etc,,,but i bet you if ppl where honest theres more pirates here then ppl tht really do want to see linux back on there ps3,

      i mean what is annomymous reasons for ddos,,now because off them everybody is gonna want to attct the psn....and thats not fair for everyone..

      do annomymous want linux back aswell??

    178. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      08:08 PM
      178

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      wrong.
      microsoft ban the console, is that not standing up?
      what did microsoft/nintendo remove from the advertised product?
      the fact is that people bought the ps3 (fat) ewhich came with a computer status!
      sony took the status away!
      name me one dev responsible of enabling piracy that was involved with bringing back linux.

      the ppl that enabled piracy are the dongle makers. go ***** at them!

      and fyi, i have an itouch 3g and the best thing is itether (a paid cydia app) that allows me to use the internet over my phones bluetooth connection.

      you seem to be romanced with piracy! we are not all about piracy.
      Dude the PS3 was the Holy Grail for the hackers
      Over 3 years i see reward and competitions for who hack the PS3
      You believe that all happend for Linux?
      What win Geohot from Sony hack?
      More famous all over the world and sale his self to TV programs as Guest
      The hack in PS3 is Prestige matter no Linux
      So if you believe if you post that war begin for Linux and they stop when Linux came back you make HUGE WRONG
      They use Linux to Dump memory and run Unsigned code
      Wake up
      Nothig done for Linux all done to Hack the PS3 and run Copy games from HDD Internal or external
      The Linux matter is just a offence line in court for Geoegoist and is not REALISTIC
      If Geoegoist want to run Linux why publish the Keys on his page?
      And why his doing after the Dongles come out?
      The only thing Geoegoist hack is just a Dongle and his find how work

    179. vgturtle127
      04-23-2011
      08:09 PM
      179

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      you seem to be romanced with piracy! we are not all about piracy.
      I would like to take a minute and ask everyone on this website to understand NONE OF US CONDONE PIRACY. We appreciate it when people allow new features and share them with us, but we do not condone piracy by jailbreaking. The reason I wanted to jailbreak was because of Linux, increased home theater potential, emulators, etc. I didn't even ever think that piracy would be possible on the PlayStation 3. I bought all my games, and then use them to make a backup and play without the disc to improve load times and whatnot. Just saying.

    180. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      08:10 PM
      180

      Originally Posted by loulou18 View Post
      it makes me angry becuse this linuxs argument is dragging the whole psn community into it,,we are all being affected by this now,,even the ppl that couldnt care less

      i,ll agree with you there japs ,im a bit obbssesed with the piracy.

      and i,ll agree that probally not everyone on this forum is into free games etc,,,but i bet you if ppl where honest theres more pirates here then ppl tht really do want to see linux back on there ps3,

      i mean what is annomymous reasons for ddos,,now because off them everybody is gonna want to attct the psn....and thats not fair for everyone..

      do annomymous want linux back aswell??
      Anonymous used GH as an excuse to get involved in it all. Since he folded they have been foundering like fish trying to recover from the slap in the face he gave them and others.

      @dizzy, it Was advertised with the ability to run an OS like a computer. If not on box it was included in their promtional videos etc. Part of the reason was for tax purposes as it cost less in tax to sell a compuiter than a stand along game console.

    181. japsander
      04-23-2011
      08:17 PM
      181

      in short, all this psn **** is down to Sony breaking the law. there was no such act committed before this fact and as unfortunate as it is, legit users are feeling it.
      don't just blame us though, Sony squeezed out a little fart and followed through. now both Linux/legit have to deal with the poop.

      would this have happened if somy hadn't made offline games require a higher FW?
      the games need nothing from newer FW to run.
      this is purely extortion from Sony making people update to play offline in order to make it "their" choice to lose Linux.

    182. Wolfie708
      04-23-2011
      08:21 PM
      182

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      Sony squeezed out a little fart and followed through. now both Linux/legit have to deal with the poop.
      Thanks for that wonderful image mate!

    183. loulou18
      04-23-2011
      08:25 PM
      183

      this is my last post on this subject......

      you keep pushing sony and pissing em off,there gonna think screw this poxy console we dont need this hassle,lets drop the whole idea (maybe)

      i mean they have t,vs mobile phone,laptop,touch screen pc,,why the hell do they need to carry this dead weight console on there backs????

      then what we gonna do??

      you cant tell me the ps3 isnt a good console,,wether you play games watch b;uray..

      summit has got to change,,if only homebrew could be made to run on console in such a way that piracy couldnt be done...

      i just dont wanna see the ps3 go down the pan

      and the hackers/pirates/devs are giving sony such a hard time over this console..do they really need to carry this on....

      goodnight ppl

    184. Da ToxicFox
      04-23-2011
      08:32 PM
      184

      Anon has given up on OPSony. On the chat it says there is no current target and that OPSony has succeeded which is a lie cause none of their demands were met. Honestly Anon seems to have backed out and wants to forget the whole thing ever happened. They're banning people who talk about Sony in the main chat and OPSony chat is dead. Whatever happens now Anon has no part in it.

    185. dizzy74
      04-23-2011
      08:32 PM
      185

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      Anonymous used GH as an excuse to get involved in it all. Since he folded they have been foundering like fish trying to recover from the slap in the face he gave them and others.

      @dizzy, it Was advertised with the ability to run an OS like a computer. If not on box it was included in their promtional videos etc. Part of the reason was for tax purposes as it cost less in tax to sell a compuiter than a stand along game console.
      Never i see this
      IF advertised is not from SONY
      Other OS is open only for developers
      Sone never suport a Os for download in PS3
      And yellow dog was never official Sony partner
      And if you want sell a computer why you have OtherOS in Virtual enviroment????
      IS just a console who try to reach the abbilities of PCs in games
      Is a closed system to play games only from Sony Company
      IS a SONY POWER PC only for SONY games and services
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      in short, all this psn **** is down to Sony breaking the law. there was no such act committed before this fact and as unfortunate as it is, legit users are feeling it.
      don't just blame us though, Sony squeezed out a little fart and followed through. now both Linux/legit have to deal with the poop.

      would this have happened if somy hadn't made offline games require a higher FW?
      the games need nothing from newer FW to run.
      this is purely extortion from Sony making people update to play offline in order to make it "their" choice to lose Linux.
      I agree with you nobody blame the good hackers
      We blame the hackers who dont care about the PS3 only care about they Prestige
      And is dificult for me to believe somebody gives 650euros to buy PS3 to run Linux.
      With this money you buy parts to create a good Desktop PC
      If i want run LInux i buy a P4

    186. GregoryRasputin
      04-23-2011
      08:53 PM
      186

      Originally Posted by dizzy74 View Post
      Never i see this
      IF advertised is not from SONY
      Other OS is open only for developers
      Sone never suport a Os for download in PS3
      And yellow dog was never official Sony partner
      And if you want sell a computer why you have OtherOS in Virtual enviroment????
      IS just a console who try to reach the abbilities of PCs in games
      Is a closed system to play games only from Sony Company


      Its quite clear and i mean no disrespect, but you do not have a damn clue what you are talking about and your ignorance makes you look stupidthe PS3 was advertised as a super computer, it was advertised with Linux, on Sony's official PS3 websites, there are various references and support on installing Linux.

    187. Pockets69
      04-23-2011
      09:24 PM
      187

      i go away for a few hours and this happens!
      i would like to remind those new posters that this would get you banned on other scene websites... i am just saying, also those new posters should stick around and learn something with people who actually know what they are talking about...

    188. crazyDogg08
      04-23-2011
      10:03 PM
      188

      F*ck this son of a b*tch. Hopefully he/they will be arrested for a long time!!!

    189. GregoryRasputin
      04-23-2011
      10:48 PM
      189

      First post updated.

    190. BobbyBlunt
      04-23-2011
      11:15 PM
      190

      Couple of days my arse. I bet it doesn't come back online until Tuesday. They claim they working around the clock but it is a holiday weekend.

    191. CharlietoKind
      04-23-2011
      11:38 PM
      191

      I'm actually happy this is happening. I really loved otheros

    192. Thelostdeathknight
      04-24-2011
      12:26 AM
      192

      Finally figured out who pwnd psn....it was all because... <Lightning strike> "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition"

      how could $ony have prepared for an attack by them when they have 4 weapons, amongst their weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms—oh damn!

    193. dizzy74
      04-24-2011
      01:05 AM
      193

      How the hell people leave comments on Official Playstation Site if you need to sign in with your PSN account to leave comment???
      Every ti me i try to sign in show me return Url about Server is Down.
      I see every day new posts from people.
      ??????????????????????????

    194. B4yron
      04-24-2011
      01:55 AM
      194

      @dizzy74 I would like an answer on this too.

    195. CrystalWolf
      04-24-2011
      02:01 AM
      195

      Its still out. Tried signing in with my psp and an error message pops with code error 80550403.

    196. rhazielz
      04-24-2011
      02:14 AM
      196

      grafs house is going to get raided again
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      since math posted the new 3.60 firmware theory sony tried to role out a new fix thats come back to bite them by screwing there servers

    197. DaveOMac
      04-24-2011
      02:45 AM
      197

      lol @ all the new poster sony phanny-boys! Oh no PSN is down.. that means we could go outside of our moms basement!!! Noooooo.... BRIGHT LIGHT, BLIGHT LIGHT!

    198. buckylovin
      04-24-2011
      04:20 AM
      198

      We all know PSN was hacked. We were able to get on it with cfw and even play on the dev PSN. I have no doubt this pissed Sony and the devs off. My guess is that Sony were unable to stop people doing this with PSN in its current state. They will add the additional security required to detect and ban cfw users using rebug to gain psn access. I love homebrew, however Sony are winning the battle over the hacking of the PS3. I know guys love Linux and I am happy they have got it back but I don't use or need it so without decent homebrew my cfw is useless. I am holding back from returning to ofw in the hope that something worthwhile is on the horizon but I am always disappointed.

      There will be no 3.60 cfw. Sony have shut the system down tight, they are doing the same with PSN. Have to hand it to them, they are doing their job very well.

    199. blitz7287
      04-24-2011
      05:01 AM
      199

      I beginning to think maybe the hackers proper ****ed over psn like totally destroy some of it coding and naturally sonys just covering it up like usual.

      tbh i serves them right their console is great but everything else about them sucks balls

    200. URETROID
      04-24-2011
      05:13 AM
      200

      Up their ass_s !

    201. Annelies
      04-24-2011
      05:16 AM
      201

      Look at the bright side; the downtime brought a lot of new faces to the forums.

    202. DJ_3Sixty
      04-24-2011
      05:43 AM
      202

      Latest Update for PSN/Qriocity Services

      We sincerely regret that PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have been suspended, and we are working around the clock to bring them both back online. Our efforts to resolve this matter involve re-building our system to further strengthen our network infrastructure. Though this task is time-consuming, we decided it was worth the time necessary to provide the system with additional security.

      We thank you for your patience to date and ask for a little more while we move towards completion of this project. We will continue to give you updates as they become available.
      Source: http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/...city-services/

    203. dizzy74
      04-24-2011
      05:45 AM
      203

      If you remember before 2 years Xbox Live shutdown
      for TWO WEEKS and if you take a look at Xbox Forums at this time
      everybody wrote about Microsoft Sucks and Microsoft support sucks etc.
      Same case everywhere,we are junkies of VideoGames and we are never satisfied


      And i cant understand how some people make post on Official PS site
      when you must sign in to make post and give you error when you try it Server is Down

      I believe the problem have to do with PORTAL 2 Video Game and the STEAM co-operation with PSN,they try to close all the holes in security before enable STEAM on PSN

    204. GregoryRasputin
      04-24-2011
      06:33 AM
      204

      Originally Posted by DJ_3Sixty View Post
      Source: http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/...city-services/

      Thanks, but i added that to the first post about eight hours ago

    205. CrystalWolf
      04-24-2011
      06:41 AM
      205

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      Thanks, but i added that to the first post about eight hours ago
      Doesn't it annoy to repeat that over and over again.. Something for all your troubles.

    206. Wolfie708
      04-24-2011
      06:54 AM
      206

      Originally Posted by ultimathaker View Post
      Doesn't it annoy to repeat that over and over again.. Something for all your troubles.
      Gives all the Mods a little Easter egg for their troubles............. Then takes them back and eats them myself HeeHee

    207. sammieboi100
      04-24-2011
      08:37 AM
      207

      **** whoever did this, i want to play online

    208. Annelies
      04-24-2011
      08:41 AM
      208

      Originally Posted by sammieboi100 View Post
      **** whoever did this, i want to play online
      You should know that whoever did this (if it was indeed taken down by a hacker) probably has good intentions in mind and is likely fighting for our rights to use homebrew.

      In any case....we must wait for Sony to fix it. Flaming the person(s) who took down PSN isn't going to get it up any quicker.

    209. rhonal89
      04-24-2011
      08:42 AM
      209

      first time since i got my ps3 i had to play offline. goshhh

    210. xxxRoccoSiffredixxx
      04-24-2011
      09:13 AM
      210

      how you treat us, You deserve worst SONY dei mei coglioni

    211. CrystalWolf
      04-24-2011
      09:22 AM
      211

      PSN will not be of any use next year as the predicted 2012 would be closer

    212. itai84
      04-24-2011
      09:31 AM
      212

      Originally Posted by ultimathaker View Post
      PSN will not be of any use next year as the predicted 2012 would be closer
      Your probably right on that.

    213. sunnytimes
      04-24-2011
      10:12 AM
      213

      their better be a free PSN game or 2 in this for me. being the longweekend and all i wanted to game , instead i had to spend time with my family , ugh .. F U sony! :]

    214. Annelies
      04-24-2011
      10:24 AM
      214

      Originally Posted by sunnytimes View Post
      their better be a free PSN game or 2 in this for me. being the longweekend and all i wanted to game , instead i had to spend time with my family , ugh .. F U sony! :]
      If they even gave away one PSN game, they'd lose millions of dollars.

      69M PSN users x 1 $9.99 PSN game = Not happening.

    215. DaveOMac
      04-24-2011
      10:25 AM
      215

      If you mosey over to PlaystationUniverse you will find they have an "Anonymous" (Good choice of words lol) Sony Source that has disclosed what happened.. Great read. I especially love the part where its states:

      While this information is only corroborated via a series of Facebook messages...

      Rather crap source here: http://www.psu.com/PSN-hackers-attac...a011425-p0.php

      QUOTE:


      PSN hackers attacked Admin Dev accounts, services returning in a day or two, SCEE source claims

      Posted April 24th, 2011 at 04:06 EDT by Adam Dolge

      A source with close connections to Sony Computer Entertainment Europe reports that the attack to the PlayStation Network may be a bit deeper than originally reported by Sony. According to the source, who wishes to remain anonymous, the PSN sustained a LOIC attack (which created a denial-of-service attack) that damaged the server. There was also a concentrated attack on the PlayStation servers holding account information. In addition, “Admin Dev accounts were breached.”

      As a result, “Sony then shut down the PSN and [is] currently in the process of restoring backups to new servers with new admin dev accounts.” The SCEE source said Japanese servers may be restored tomorrow while the U.S. and E.U. servers will likely be operational the following day.

      While this information is only corroborated via a series of Facebook messages, it is certainly not a stretch. Sony Computer Entertainment America recently confirmed that it pulled down the PSN because of an “external intrusion.” This essentially means that hackers were to blame. Sony is officially conducting a thorough investigation. The PSN and Qriocity services were pulled offline by Sony on Wednesday, April 20.

      There was plenty of speculation late this week that the Anonymous hackers group was to blame for the PSN downtime. The group previously targeted Sony in retaliation to the legal action against another hacker. Anonymous has since denied involvement in the current PSN downtime.

      Again, this information is from a source who claims to have a very close connection with someone at SCEE. We take these reports for what they are at this time, but it is certainly a possibility. If you have information to share, please do so.

      "Everyone deserves the right to know what’s been going on," the source wrote in an email.
      LOL ... fckin' Fan Boys!

    216. Sexbox
      04-24-2011
      10:40 AM
      216

      Originally Posted by DaveOMac View Post

      LOL ... fckin' Fan Boys!
      That place is run by a dude known as David Wales, he's 'The Dean' over there.

      These guys are hardcore Sony droids, if they tell you the sky is blue, verify it!

    217. darkfroggy
      04-24-2011
      11:59 AM
      217

      What the F!!!! Sony down for 3 days??!!! For real just when i perchause a new ps3 to play online i get this??!!!!! Some Sony Service!!

    218. Pockets69
      04-24-2011
      12:43 PM
      218

      so they have been down since wednesday right? 4 days down, and still two more to go?? ahah those guys suck so bad...

    219. vgturtle127
      04-24-2011
      12:43 PM
      219

      Originally Posted by Annelies View Post
      Look at the bright side; the downtime brought a lot of new faces to the forums.
      HAHA, Like me!!!

    220. nexile
      04-24-2011
      12:55 PM
      220

      sony said 2 days, that right there was too long, **** them, i want to get to 15th prestige already!

    221. blitz7287
      04-24-2011
      02:01 PM
      221

      Originally Posted by Annelies View Post
      If they even gave away one PSN game, they'd lose millions of dollars.

      69M PSN users x 1 $9.99 PSN game = Not happening.
      I servilely doubt theres 69 million psn users

    222. Annelies
      04-24-2011
      02:23 PM
      222

      Originally Posted by blitz7287 View Post
      I servilely doubt theres 69 million psn users
      You should look these types of things up before posting, my good sir. There are 69 million registered PSN users.


      Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk

    223. darkmetal
      04-24-2011
      02:25 PM
      223

      Everyone get a life and visit with your family its easter sunday. PSN is down so what go get girl friend or girl friends!

    224. japsander
      04-24-2011
      02:31 PM
      224

      Originally Posted by darkmetal View Post
      PSN is down so what go get girl friend or girl friends!
      my wife wont let me

    225. sickboy1138
      04-24-2011
      02:36 PM
      225

      Originally Posted by blitz7287 View Post
      I servilely doubt theres 69 million psn users
      I doubt there were that many people who ever really cared about linux (not that there werent some.. myself included) but that didnt stop them coming out of the wood work last september to use it as their excuse to jailbreak when the only benefit was "backing up" games. ,
      Sony have stated that they have 69 m subscribers but seeing as theyve only crossed the 50 mill unit mark I find that doubtful. at any rate if they offered something free for the downtime Ide expect everyone to come out of the wood work to take advantage of it.. especially the ones who say they dont care if the psn ever comes back up.

      yknow Id love to see a poll somewhere to guage how many scensters even had
      an originally linux capable machine. just out of curiosity (to bad it would be as accurate as asking how many people back up vs. how many people outright pirate)
      I had seen some Sony hate since oOs removal but it really has spiked since jailbreaking became available.
      But I used to see a whole lot of hate from xbots who would never buy a playstation until they could pirate its games. is there a correlation. I dont know.

    226. xxxRoccoSiffredixxx
      04-24-2011
      05:19 PM
      226

      [QUOTE=kinger;193653]Sony has finally admitted why PSN has been down for days, and it is what everyone has been assuming. A group or possibly even a single hacker brought down the giant. Down time for PSN was reported to be ”1 to 2 full days”, but after this update it is certain that is not the case, here is... /The latest news from PSN/Qriocity Services is that they have totally suspended the OLD PSN and they are building it from scratch all over again with much more security and safety measures. It looks like it may be a significant delay before we see the PSN come back online again.

      Update from psgroove

    227. japsander
      04-24-2011
      05:39 PM
      227

      i bet all of this "external intrusion" is bull****.
      didnt sony say our accounts would be deleted if we didnt update to 3.60?

      "deleted" is probably another way of saying "not transfered".
      all the anon attacks just gave sony an excuse to shut psn down to get their job done quicker while making the scene look bad.

    228. dizzy74
      04-24-2011
      06:29 PM
      228

      FBI and Scotland Yard find the opportunity after PSN is down
      to hunting Anonymous Team for Wikileaks Support in past

      YouTube - EXCLUSIVE- FBI After Anonymous PS3 - Sony Hackers

      http://www.youtube.com/user/Zanders2...16/Q08CK2ifMag

      Anonymous Fight the Power
      F***k the War Pigs

      YouTube - Black Sabbath - War Pigs (Live in Paris 1970)

    229. OoZic
      04-24-2011
      06:54 PM
      229

      [QUOTE=xxxRoccoSiffredixxx;194284]

      Originally Posted by kinger View Post
      Sony has finally admitted why PSN has been down for days, and it is what everyone has been assuming. A group or possibly even a single hacker brought down the giant. Down time for PSN was reported to be ”1 to 2 full days”, but after this update it is certain that is not the case, here is... /The latest news from PSN/Qriocity Services is that they have totally suspended the OLD PSN and they are building it from scratch all over again with much more security and safety measures. It looks like it may be a significant delay before we see the PSN come back online again.

      Update from psgroove
      I still think there own hired super protection Prolexic is the only thing that can bring PSN down. And they are now trying to implant the Prolexic protection service a way better than they did the first time so it can't happen again.

      Look at it this way: If you install 2 virus scanners on your Windows the change on a BSOD is very big. If Sony uses their own PSN security in combination with Prolexic security strange things can happen I think. Like going down for a long time.

      If Sony keeps on blaming hackers while they are protected by Prolexic they give Prolexic a very bad name. Better is to admit the implantation of their new security was an epic fail and they need to rebuild PSN again with Prolexic in mind at the beginning and leave out their own security that has problems with their new security.

    230. dizzy74
      04-24-2011
      07:02 PM
      230

      A DDoS attack can shutdown the PSN
      If exist a big number of Zombies a server can be shutdown very easy.

    231. 2die4
      04-24-2011
      09:56 PM
      231

      Originally Posted by ibivibiv View Post
      I agree, just use Live (far superior product - you get what you pay for).

      Overall I just don't know what to believe. Part of me says that cyberspace is still the wild wild west and you have to know how to behave. $ony thinks it is like the real world and they own everything. Not true on the internet. They have kicked so many balls lately I am sure someone decided to kick back. On the web it takes one person to take down millions. Online you need to observe the golden rule; Do unto others as you want them to do unto you.

      Then again, I have to say look at the source. These guys are habitual liars. So who really knows? Either way my first statement applies. Their $#@$ service is a @#$@ service so I'll stick with Live for my online play. Live is the grown up pool with a life guard. PSN is the kiddy pool with a bunch of script kiddies $%#ing in it. Which one do you want to swim in?
      seriously use LIVE haha come on mate things arent that bad yet

    232. KillerBug
      04-24-2011
      10:10 PM
      232

      When the network comes back up they should give everyone a trophy saying, "I came back to the PSN after it was down for a month"

    233. rlme1
      04-25-2011
      12:26 AM
      233

      So theres a rumor that I heard, I thought worthy of posting it since it seems that a source from Sony told Playstation Universe that Europe and the U.S. servers might be back up on Tuesday and Japanese servers on Monday.

    234. DaveOMac
      04-25-2011
      02:03 AM
      234

      rlme1, during this entire thread users have pointed out not to believe what you read. I read that article too but its hard to have any faith in a post that said:

      "While this information is only corroborated via a series of Facebook messages.."

      Sony haven't confirmed anything yet on the cause, solution or an ETA or when things will be back up but we are also talking about a company here that can't even be @rsed to change the green ON dot next to their server status on their official blog to a RED off dot or even an AMBER "we still screwed" dot.

    235. blitz7287
      04-25-2011
      02:54 AM
      235

      Anybody tried connecting to psn yet, i hope its still down lol. Sony deserve everything thats thrown at them.

    236. DaveOMac
      04-25-2011
      03:02 AM
      236

      Originally Posted by blitz7287 View Post
      Anybody tried connecting to psn yet, i hope its still down lol. Sony deserve everything thats thrown at them.
      Yep still down.. so another day outside for me prehaps a BBQ and a few beers later I'm thinking.

    237. ZOMBIEKILLAH
      04-25-2011
      04:48 AM
      237

      this is how ANOPS got the unknown people aweare about a bad company of greed & control ,brainwashing our youth .look at all the kids crying about psn . wake up you are being controlled like a puppet !! play offline ,sacrifice is the first step to domination ! READ important .psn & sonys reputation is being spread from the mouths of 70 million ps3 users & reporters e.t.c. A begining to be ,well known to the world. as "ugh lets see" ? the people who dont know about sonys dirty tactics ,much more is getting people interested in sony right about now..If you listen to it they have a hidden message in it saying thay did not do this to psn .but also sending a message to the world & psn users. they are saying how they the hackers are getting blamed right away like every hacker is bad . also they are saying do you see how anonomous is all over the internet world wide , youtube etc, sayin anops did this. it sounds like ANOPS are sayin that they got the attenion of the worlds eye & people are going to start asking questions about sony wondering what sony did to deserve this & y this is happened ?? sony will lie about the truth, they will act like they are the victims of hackers .they will try & use this as power later.. they are not even telling the truth now about psn + how they screwed every ps3 owner + going after people who own ther own ps3 & enjoy install homebrew, whatever we want to install .like we all say it is are ps3, F SONY ..they are stalling cause they are trying to figure out a very good lie ,so they look good in the eyes of fan boys & people that dont know whats rilly going on behind this companys doors. i been doing alot of research on the web .i am not shure but 5 anops hackers have been caught in the uk ? dont qoute me check for yourself .there is new videos on youtube & they seem real .. FBI i is involved .. I have 2 PS3s ,i also go on psn ,sorry to anyone who is upset but the world needs to know about bad companys like sony. controlling,corupt ways,lies,invasion of our privacy,my xreg.sys file on my ps3 that i used a multi tool to view, has my passwork completly unencrypted, ps3 login name +.anyone who would get ahold of my ps3 could look at my reg file & get my password & email psn name + much more use my account ,debit card to wipe me out..if anyone has a account & has accsess to there ps3 xreg.sys file open it up & read 4 yourself.. sonys ways are much worse than this though ,we all know .watch the vid + look for new ones there is new info floating around about the truth !! YouTube - Anonymous: Message To All PSN Users 4-23-11

    238. DaveOMac
      04-25-2011
      04:55 AM
      238

      lol now this is getting ridiculous, someone has posted possible "proof" that rogue Anon agenst are behind all the chaos... do you want to see it. Well here it is in all its "proofy" glory :facepalm:



      I saw this and almost died from how shockingly some far some phan-boys are going to try and get everyone to blame the hacking community. I could have faked this in 2 minutes using MSPAINT and it would have been more convincing.

      Let us check the meter for todays readings:



      Yep the forecast for the rest of the week is this, a complete BS storm is coming. Lock down your doors and windows, man the lifeboats and make sure the fans are pointed at Sony for when it finally hits.

    239. japsander
      04-25-2011
      05:17 AM
      239

      love the BS meter

    240. ZOMBIEKILLAH
      04-25-2011
      05:23 AM
      240

      by the way everyone mad about psn ,i notice a lot of new nbs & just saying your beloved sony is lying to even u & when they get back up you will love them & this is exactly what sony wants !! they want you to miss psn & to be on there side to gain more power against your rights.. reverse psychology is very dangerous with alot of money behind it . not to affend anyone just the truth was just told . sony is "fony"...

    241. DaveOMac
      04-25-2011
      05:51 AM
      241

      Oh i also will add.. the speculation that 5 anonymous members that where arrested in the UK is absolutely TRUE.... back in JANURARY!

      Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12299137

      They were arrested for the anti-Wikileaks attacks against Paypal, Mastercard etc.

      Scotland Yard I am sure are pursuing the matter but no arrests have been made so far in regards to this "so-called" attack.

      EDIT: I am sorry but I was wrong (like so many others including that Youtube vid) the Anonymous arrests now stand at 6 in britian, they got another one earlier this month.
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...s-attacks.html

    242. ZOMBIEKILLAH
      04-25-2011
      05:58 AM
      242

      i dont know but this is new .. i dont know if this is ok to link .if not correct me mods & let me know ? but this one of ANOPS i guess talking about whats up ....also the 5 that got arested + about FBI to ...she says keep talkin after he loses connections ,like they are tappin to track him whats she got swat team FBI... i thought it would be fair to the people who are bad mouthing anops , it would be good for you to listen to the other side of the story & how they are supporters of many ... YouTube - EXCLUSIVE- FBI After Anonymous PS3 - Sony Hackers
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by DaveOMac View Post
      Oh i also will add.. the speculation that 5 anonymous members that where arrested in the UK is absolutely TRUE.... back in JANURARY!

      Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12299137

      They got done for the Wikileaks attack.

      Scotland Yard I am sure are pursuing the matter but no arrests have been made so far.
      and the say , a study found that the tool that was used makes no attempt to hide a user's net address which would lead any investigator almost straight to an attacker. not very smart on that 5yrs ago ..probably alot smarter now ,i would hope..

    243. shawndavis
      04-26-2011
      01:54 AM
      243

      i just hope its up before the weekend