Important updates at the Read More link. While the PS3 scene is slow now a days and some of you are dreading for the return of PSN, Mathieulh has posted some interesting discoveries on his Twitter. Mathieulh has managed to QA Flag his PS3 and show the hidden options available for it. Before I go on, most of you are probably wondering what in the world does QA Flagged mean?
To quote:
QA flag is the internal console flag used by Sony, it enables hidden options and removes restrictions for both retail and debug consoles alike. It is used for QA centers and the R&D Department, there are 2 levels of QA flags, Minimum and Advanced, this console has been set to the Advanced one.
Now Mathieulh has come out and said that he will not be telling us how he did this, but nonetheless very cool and it will be interesting to see where this will lead to.
The video below:
To quote video description:
I just QA flagged my Metal Gear Solid 4 Limited Edition console and I thought I’d show you the hidden options for the sake of it. (and because I was bored)
I am sorry for the unstable camera, I only have two hands and the options are hidden and require (along with the actual flag) a crazy button combo to pop up. (I kid you not)
Sorry I am not telling you how to do this, please do not ask.
Yes, this video is real
Here are some interesting Tweets made regarding this:
Mathieulh Mathieulh:
@dantezteam It’s an UNMODIFIED RETAIL FIRMWARE.@KaKaRoToKS For various reasons, one of them being that you can warez with this, and the flag stays even after updating.
@KaKaRoToKS The QA flag happens to remove a bunch of restrictions that have the side effect of preventing you to warez.
@dantezteam The console is QA flagged, The firmware checks for this flag and will enable special features when it finds it.
@dantezteam Basically it’s what Sony themselves use to allow special debugging on their consoles and loosen restrictions.
@KaKaRoToKS By the way, Advanced QA flag enables downgrading, just my 2 cents… xD
UPDATE 1:
Another video released showing how Sony downgrades their RETAIL PS3 units, to quote:
This is what happens when downgrade gets enabled. This is the way Sony officially downgrade retails.
UPDATE 2:
So many of you have been posting about the method about how to set the QA Flag on your PS3, which you can find here.
First off before you run of excited and try it I recommend you do NOT, and let the more experience people play with it and get it 100% working first, because after you still need the ‘secret button’ combination in order to QA flag which we don’t know. Further more Mathieulh has commented on the so called release method, and he says its being done wrong – but has offered more hints on what is happening:
Posted by Mathieulh:
Sorry to break the mood, but that’s not the way to do it, the flag is not only in the eeprom, it’s protected by a token. The EEPROM flash is just a marker to tell the console to check the token.
So proceed at your own risk. rms has also posted a good article on his blog explaining about the QA Flagging your PS3, and that it requires the use of a sixaxis key combo which is unkown to us at this point:
Ever since Mathieulh released his video, some people just want to QA flag their consoles. Now, let me tell you one thing, it’s so not easy.
Besides, if you want to use the QA flag, you have to have a valid QA token, and you have to be on a specific firmware range. Now, what’s so special about the token is that it’s generated in a funny way, I am not going to disclose that here. But, remember, PS3 hypervisor can also make tokens. But these tokens.. don’t do /anything/ except just unlock the QA repository node.
Besides, the fancy menu requires a very weird key combo on the Sixaxis, and it only works on retails. On debugs, it just removes all restrictions.
Remember, the QA flag in Syscon also requires a valid token. (reiterated again.)
So, in the end QA flagging = (Piracy*Warez)++;. Don’t do it.
Also any CFW or new jailbreak video/info being posted in lieu of this news is all FAKE.
05-13-2011
08:51 PM
I didn't see too much that was special. It was obvious it wasn't rebug that he was using due to the color of the icons and install package files was under the system settings, but what exactly was I looking for?
05-13-2011
08:58 PM
what he meant was it could be flashed on the machine, of course it needs some setting up, the thing is, if he did what i think he did, qa flagged machines, can't be flagged to retail, just like debug units...
05-13-2011
08:58 PM
like always go to hell mathieulh... I'am french and don't want to see boring vids made by this guy...
It's always look what i did but i'am not telling you how...
05-13-2011
09:00 PM
^ kenshindono +1
why does he tease us!?
05-13-2011
09:05 PM
stop being ignorant, its his work he has every right to do with it whatever he wants with it! if he feels like not releasing it! he wont! are you paying anyone in here to work for you?
relish that you have the opportunity to have all the hard work of the devs on your machine for free!
and he is not teasing anyone he is showing it can be done! or would you prefer if he didn't say anything, so you wouldn't have any chance to know that it can actually be done.
05-13-2011
09:07 PM
I have to agree with the majority community. Its nice to see but, enough already. What is he trying to prove anyway. Look if you not going to share with the rest of the community then please stop teasing people. Its really anoying and just pisses more people off. Be a team player not a showoff.
05-13-2011
09:08 PM
Pockets I rarely disagree with you but I have to concur with other members. He wants bragging rights. That would be like me making a legit cfw 3.60 video and saying you can't have it. That is a real ****head move IMHO.
05-13-2011
09:10 PM
05-13-2011
09:11 PM
So judging by his replies on Twitter and youtube this works on official retail firmwares on his retail unit by a certain controller input sequence. Do other consoles do this too?? Or is Sony the only console maker that uses things like this that get found out by public figures
05-13-2011
09:13 PM
05-13-2011
09:17 PM
another video
"qa Flag Downgrade"
YouTube - QA flag downgrade
I find it hard to believe that he will be the only one to find this out. If anything he will be the only one to keep it to himself. I can't blame the guy.
05-13-2011
09:25 PM
He's like Chris Tarrant on Who Wants to be a Millionaire:
"Here's a cheque for £500,000 - but we don't want to give you that!"
He's such an annoying *******, even his name is ****ing stupid.
05-13-2011
09:27 PM
pawn the ps3 with ds3 button mashing lol thats too crazy almost as crazy as the pandora battery
05-13-2011
09:32 PM
Ok...so the flag is read by the update manager and protected by a token. Combo can be found in vsh.self
05-13-2011
09:38 PM
noob question: can we hack PSN with this again and when will we have CFW 3.60 with this?
I like every new discovery on the PS3. Now we know it is there someone will push every combination of buttons on his controller to find it out. Good luck with that to that person btw
thanx Math for sharing this info. I'll understand you won't tell how we get this QA option but do note this is not hacking the PS3 but just using a hidden feature like the Recovery menu. Sony can't do much about it.
Now we all know what the next thing is for Sony to remove (or change).... QA
05-13-2011
09:40 PM
Sorry for lame question but, what's a token? I'm just intrigued by all this.
05-13-2011
09:42 PM
If what he is saying is correct it's a big deal for devs. He may not release the exact method but he's providing valuable information on where you should look. I believe this information will get some people thinking in new ways.
Everyone can get mad but I'm glad for this information.
05-13-2011
09:48 PM
Mathieulh, have mercy.......so the world might be mended...so the world might be mended....
05-13-2011
09:49 PM
If this is real then it means those currently on 3.60 can downgrade to 3.55, but only is mathieulh or someone else releases how to do this.
I think the psjailbreak team probably know, is it just a coincidence that this video also shows an option to "install package files" which is used in all jailbreaks and cfw?
I think sony deserves to learn another lesson, this should be released so that those currently on 3.60 and pissed off with sony for the current psn outage can join in on the fun with jailbroken consoles. Bet sony would love that.
05-13-2011
09:50 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but This looks like Rebug. I think he edited the Rebug FW or made some new .pkg's that made fake buttons. If you think about it he never shows us what FW he is using. He never shows us anything really. So it is with a sad face I say this is fake.
When the "new" buttons showed up the screen it looked like it was cut. I think he went to OFW on his PS3 and recorded the first part of the vid. Then he installed a custom Rebug or something for the second part. As far as I can tell this was all rather easy to fake and Math has never released anything in the past so... If he told us how to do this or maybe had some type of release history I might bite.
My main point is him putting that video together was pointless and watching it is a waste of time. Even if its real he won't release it so why show us it?
I don't believe Sony would have put something like this on the PS3 anyways. It just seems to me putting this on the PS3 could be a major security issue and can easily be avoided by them. All they have to do is have some type of hardware that opens up the restrictions at the Sony repair shops. It would be much easier to keep their console locked down with that and wouldn't cost much.
05-13-2011
09:53 PM
can i ask?
wtf is the point in this? its cool for him but not for us. i guess ill go button mash on my ps3, hell wheres my wii. ill go n mash those suckas too. heh at least tell us which fw its on. this is like getting blue balls. i hate having blue balls.
by releasing a vid of being able to do sumn and not telln how. is like a waste of time especially because your bored.
05-13-2011
10:00 PM
ahhhhhh **** THANKS FOR RELEASING PROOF WITHOUT HOW TO SO SONY CAN PATCH IT BEFORE ANYONE CAN USE IT ass....
05-13-2011
10:02 PM
hmm - looks alot ps3-acid-cfw-xmb-custom-firmware
05-13-2011
10:07 PM
ps: if this is ever figured out it would mean a regular ps3 that if you push like up up left... x10 just saying not actual sequence you would be able to have a regular ps3 no cfw or dongle nothing just a regular ps3 retail on steroids it like a super cfw with out no mod just a button sequence to activate it one time only if it was release it would be the end of sony
05-13-2011
10:10 PM
05-13-2011
10:34 PM
I can only guess what fw he has on his ps3 since he didn't show what he was running in either video.
05-13-2011
10:38 PM
lol he implement the sequence when he reach network setting to easy now we just have to figure out the sequence it peformed
05-13-2011
10:40 PM
Just another something that we are going to have to listen to people beg for that he will never do anything more than twitter clues that even the Riddler couldnt solve.
Mathieulh..........set the cam on fixed focus and put it on a table.............Jeeez that vid nearly gave me a headache.
05-13-2011
10:46 PM
This is everything that is in the Rebug CFW. Nothing new. He's probably just showing off that its still there in 3.60?
05-13-2011
10:47 PM
05-13-2011
10:49 PM
He should just release it.
People like to always talk about how much they want homebrew to expand yet when an exploit is found that can lead to that expansion, they don't release jack.
05-13-2011
10:50 PM
if I understand this correctly this would mean we wouldn't need to jailbreak the PS3 anymore, the key is in the jail, we just need to find it and unlock the door...
05-13-2011
10:51 PM
Mathieulh grow the f*ck up...it's great that u can do this, ur so cool that i can't focus anymore...
i remember my 10 year old friends used to pull this stuff up.."oh look what can i do"...
either the guy has personality problems or some other weird issue
he has every right to not release his work but he does not have to make a youtube video and then say "oh i am not going to tell you" .. such a baby, have pity on Mathieulh; he'll grow up
05-13-2011
11:01 PM
Thats actually kinda cool that all that is hidden in retail firmware/machines. It reminds me of the recovery console on the psp.
05-13-2011
11:35 PM
Actually its almost better for him to not release it and let someone else figure it out via hints he most likely would give. Why? Because big bad Sony will come after you, and last thing we need is another dev going out the window.
Look what happened with Geohot and Graf.
05-14-2011
12:12 AM
I'm rather sick of Mathieulh posting videos and tweeting this stuff if he isn't going to release it. I use to think he was cool, now I don't know what to think. I understand the risk's, I understand he has the right to not release it, but, as stated above quite a few times, why does he release videos displaying things that most PS3 Devs dream about, then say he won't release it? It's like spitting in the face of the PS3 Dev groups. If he wanted, he could've posted here how to do it, and we would all have 3.60 with support for package files, and many other dev goodies. UNLESS he is just a fake. Maybe he makes all this up. Sure he sounds like he knows everything, but where's the proof? He's never released anything else before. Maybe I'm wrong, what does Pirate think?
05-14-2011
12:13 AM
so yeah 3.70 anyone?
YouTube - 3.70 jailbroken?
05-14-2011
12:23 AM
05-14-2011
12:24 AM
no one cares about the stuff he has. good for you if your not sharing then keep it to yourself. like people say he like a kid with an expensive toy that nobody else can find at any other to store and he bought the last one. i don't usually leave comments like this but this guy is just showing off and wont let any body else play with his toys. were i am from we call these people haters because they found some thing good and wont show no one how to get it.
05-14-2011
12:29 AM
05-14-2011
12:49 AM
I rarely reply to stuff, but..
Mathieulh Mathieulh: @dantezteam It’s an UNMODIFIED RETAIL FIRMWARE. @KaKaRoToKS For various reasons, one of them being that you can warez with this, and the flag stays even after updating. @KaKaRoToKS The QA flag happens to remove a bunch of restrictions that have the side effect of preventing you to warez. @dantezteam The console is QA flagged, The firmware checks for this flag and will enable special features when it finds it. @dantezteam Basically it’s what Sony themselves use to allow special debugging on their consoles and loosen restrictions. @KaKaRoToKS By the way, Advanced QA flag enables downgrading, just my 2 cents… xD Read more: http://www.ps3hax.net/2011/05/mathieulh-qa-flagged-ps3-video-enable-hidden-firmware-options/#ixzz1MIq3BBEsDo you have anything to prove what so ever? Never, you just write, brags.
If you figured out the 3.60 but was like "Zomg Sony is all over" isn't this a great period to take credit? No I guess not.. just waiting for the lawyers to finish that 1 billion court, eh? Then they can focus on you (paranoid).
Really.. show a bit more than a... Youtube... link. YOUTUBE JEEZ.
Regards, no hard feelings; just prove something.
05-14-2011
01:04 AM
one thing said remoive game lisence that means ability to play all psn games O_o
05-14-2011
01:08 AM
This Mathuthl guy sounds like a spoilt brat.
05-14-2011
01:12 AM
It is too bad that this is not released to the public...
On the other hand, anything Sony uses is probably full of security holes, so this could easily be more trouble than its worth.
05-14-2011
01:15 AM
We really need to stop feeding the troll. aka Matheulh
05-14-2011
01:17 AM
First post updated w/downgrade video
05-14-2011
01:19 AM
I am saddened by the hate directed at mathiuelh.
Yes, it is frustrating to say the least that he has figured this stuff out and won't release it.
However, without his help, (with and without fail0verflow), the current scene wouldn't be where it is today.
05-14-2011
01:19 AM
Warning
PLEASE DO NOT FLAME OTER MEMBERS
05-14-2011
01:24 AM
05-14-2011
01:24 AM
if I'm not mistaken cant you use the registry editor to edit the QA flags ?
05-14-2011
01:29 AM
didn't math and his team kinda spark the start of the scene :\ i forget so much has happened :\ but yeah if he just put it out sony would power slam him i guess its better to know its out there then to not know anything at all -_-
sometimes though i feel like a bunch of smart people are dangling the keys to the cell over my head and laugh at me as i jump for the keys :\
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cld somebody make a pic of the riddler looking confused ionno lol
05-14-2011
01:32 AM
If not, I hate you....
ps. seriously I've been around lurking at different sites since psp fw 1.0. Information to those who learn is free but discovering said information costs more time and money than you could imagine.
05-14-2011
01:54 AM
I think Mathieulh is an idiot he shows us great stuff and won´t release it.
05-14-2011
01:57 AM
Mathieulh is a egomaniac, if hes not gonna tell us how, why show us this?! I really don't get it.
05-14-2011
01:59 AM
doooooooooouuuuuuuccccchhhhhhheeeeeeeeee thanx for nothing math
05-14-2011
01:59 AM
This guy is putting in hard research and development into reverse engineering the firmware and PS3 hardware.
By giving enough information to help devs, but not enough to get himself in trouble, he is protecting himself, and doing the scene along term service.
If you want to play 3.60 games, but them or get yourself a 2nd PS3 for keeping to the current OFW to play new games as they release.
It's a shame to see all these negative posts from barely literate +\/\/@+'$.
05-14-2011
02:00 AM
So math now has 2 methods to warez and we still don't have 1 lol i imagine in one year he will dangle 20 more carrots, fck it im over it to be honest, yes your a smart guy and thank you for all the hard work you put into the scene. you have proven that only you can hack the ps3 because you are a programing god, I bow to your skills. But what I liked about the scene is that it was a community of people helping each other to do dope sht with the ps3. its sad you don't feel the same way about the community, im sure you have your reasons but I could care less if you release ur sht or not. you see life is not about watching a box all day and tinkering with sht tht makes you a zombie. as much as I love games and to be honest I got every game out, I dont even play them but maybe once a week for a few hours. I got other sht to do like get this money, so I can live life a little and do lines of coke on strippers boobs or running around naked with 3 hot babes on a yacht. Call me crazy but there are other things in life that are alot more enjoyable then watching your youtube videos, unless you share I don't really care....
05-14-2011
02:02 AM
I think this is a step forward in the right direction. Good Job Mathieu. And guys we are not to flame any members on the forum as he is a member and respect him for that. I'm sure that someone will eventually accomplish what has been done in the video, till then all we got to do is wait.
05-14-2011
02:09 AM
No offence,bin watchin Matt for years but dude needs to work out whether to wear dresses or skirts.
05-14-2011
02:25 AM
fake...
+ a little start of parkinson's
05-14-2011
02:25 AM
You are pathetic.Math mustn't do anything for you,he can do what he wants.It's obvious that he doesn't want to release it because he's avoiding trouble with Sony.I bet someone will "discover" this by chance....and that will have nothing' to do with Math. :P
sorry for my English...peace
05-14-2011
02:26 AM
this is going back to the old times again.....
"I have hacked the PS3, but i am not going to tell u how to do it, but here is a video to show what i have done, respect me, love me, bow down to me, for i am god!!"
http://youtu.be/v9gFfX-wBxE
http://youtu.be/MZN1kl8G8Vs
http://youtu.be/PtujqvGwtwA
(yes, the last 2 were my fake videos, lol)
No one believes ANYTHING till it is released, even if it IS from one of the biggest names in the PS3 scene. However, u have to understand why Math ISN'T telling us how he has done this, look at what happened with GeoHot. However, but just showing a video of what he has done, Sony could quite easily find him and get him for doing it, seeing as Sony still think they own his console, and everyone elses!!
05-14-2011
02:41 AM
well there's no point in teasing us if you aren't going to release anything then it shouldn't even be mentioned .there should be a rule about that on here cause all it does is make people angry
05-14-2011
02:47 AM
05-14-2011
02:51 AM
PS3 QA flag enables powerful debug options in XMB
http://www.eurasia.nu/modules.php?na...ticle&sid=2786
The first part you know already, but start reading after "Arrogant as usual."
05-14-2011
03:11 AM
PS: Yes I know my post has no relevance to the actual topic at hand but it's not very often I see something I''d like to comment on. Viva La PS3 Resistance!
05-14-2011
03:16 AM
if every body ignores him maybe he will shh!1t, or get off the toilet, bust a move and stop talkin. Maybe if we ignore him and stop giving him the attention he so much is begging for he will stop acting out like a lil kid. we don't want your videos so stop posting them. Its good that you know these things but, IF IN ANY WAY, YOU CANT SHARE!!!!THAN WE DON'T CARE!!!!. i would love to be rich and nobody knew, because i would be like every body else and not some one that gets a lot of attention. I would love to give and not get credit that's what good people do? you cant do some thing for some body and bring it up in every conversation or every time you can, that would defeat the purpose of doing some thing good or helping others.I am just giving my opinion on what type of person he is. thanx for(nothing) the video.
05-14-2011
03:20 AM
Okay so if you wanna say that you want more "warez" for your CFW then make some we have all the ability to do that now...I just want to know if the button sequence is the same in all Retail FW so people on 3.60 and the brand new PS3's that are out with 3.60 preinstalled can be downgraded. Someone posted earlier a vid of "3.70 jailbroken" HERE---> YouTube - 3.70 jailbroken? even if its edit CFW to say 3.70 when its really 3.55 he is running portals 2 and Comgenie in the same vid! Prove it wrong otherwise please. And I really think this is step in the right direction for new CFW or a great way to have PSN (when its back) and go back to CFW when wanted. I buy games but i know the only reason we want new CFW is to play our "Back-ups" of new games coming out. Pirates are drooling over this too. But I'm 21 and I'm going to be button mashing like a 6 year old playing street fighter 2 til I get this. Although $n!pR said vsh.self hold the combo is that true!? I wanna mess with those options so bad! I thought a seen an option that turns off Sony's monitoring of your console or doesn't allow PSN to connect when connected to the internet with your PS3.
05-14-2011
03:22 AM
i can see everyone goin on to their ps3 now and goin to network settings an havin a button mash on the controller to get this **** up lol
05-14-2011
03:26 AM
05-14-2011
03:26 AM
Well guys its a simple thing WHY Matt doesnt want to release this.
First after what i read its just for devs so no why for the normal user to do it without a huge explanation. Second he doesnt want to get sued by Sony like Graf or Geohot were.
Just my 2cents to this.
I really like that he showed us that it is possible to get QA Flags even if he didnt showed us how.
05-14-2011
03:32 AM
Psx scene member user has set QA flag on his ps3 already and explains how to do it.
http://psx-scene.com/forums/f149/how-set-qa-flag-86447/
05-14-2011
03:33 AM
This could be a little hint on how we edit the registry....
PS3 Registry xRegistry.sys File Editor
http://www.ps3hax.net/tag/registry-x...ry-sys-editor/
http://www.ps3hax.net/2010/09/ps3-re...itor-released/
05-14-2011
03:52 AM
did anyone downgraded from 3.60 already? =)
05-14-2011
04:07 AM
wouldnt sony go after Math for keepin posting stuff that he can do with the ps3,such as him sayin it was easy 2 b able to get 3.60 keys and now this cos he is in their eyes breakin the law even tho he isnt releasing it publicly?????
05-14-2011
04:25 AM
so to downgrade ps3
u need ot QA Flagged Ps3, then combination, then downgrade to retail lower firmware.... once done, unset QA Flagged, reflash to 3.55KMEAW!
back in action! correct?
math left so many clues!
im sure in a week its out!
in order to do this..
QA Flagged Ps3
reverse vsh.
find combo
enable options
downgrade
unset QA Flagged
or do the QA applies only to CFW so u can flagged it.?
05-14-2011
04:29 AM
would be interesting to be able to upgrade to ofw for psn and downgrade for homebrew anytime...i hope this bit of news allows some new advances in the scene...wonder if itd set off a big red flag when connecting to sony servers...ty for the update though
05-14-2011
04:29 AM
To all those that are saying he will get into trouble for sharing a key combo, and that is the reason he is not sharing it.................. Total bollocks. A key combo cannot be in any way deemed to be owned by or controlled by Sony.
No copyright has been breached, or any 'foreign' components used to do this (if it is genuine). A key combo to get into service mode is just that, and there is not a company on the planet that can stop you from doing it.
Just to clarify, this is NOT like sharing CFW hacks etc, as CFW alters the original code in a way it was not designed for. A key combo to get into an advanced service mode does not alter Any original code past what is was designed for.
If this is genuine then the Only reason he has made it known like this is to feed his ego.
Last time I said anything against Mathieulh I was slammed by himself, and I did actually apologise, but this is either a total fake, or he is just getting his fix of playing God as he has NO valid reason for not sharing the key combo if it is genuine.
05-14-2011
04:55 AM
Wolfie it is not only a Key Combo you have to go into the system and thats the reason he is not sharing it. Like Graf and Geohot you have to make changes to the system so what YOU say is not true.
05-14-2011
05:01 AM
Math could of just released it anonymously and just leak this information
instead of showing of the videos..
now he has reason to say sony would go after him
i mean common if he wanted to release it he would stay quiet and release it!
without people knowing he released it.. but since he has open his mouth.. everyone points at him... nice job!
05-14-2011
05:04 AM
Sorry Invi, but this isn't right either...
1. You need the system set to QA
2. You need the combo - that's what Wolfie was talkin' about...
The way on how to set the console to QA mode is explained above, the combo is still the goal to get and itself is not illegal in any way ! Wolfie's right though.
05-14-2011
05:04 AM
Mathieulh Do you want a job at $ony, WHAT is it you are trying to prove with this vid? Really i dont care, just seems like he be licking a lot of sony a$$..
05-14-2011
05:25 AM
I'd much rather play online on the PSN, which is gone now, thanks to all this hacking business. I know Sony's incompetence and greed plays a large part. After all, even before they removed OtherOS, OtherOS was really crippled anyway, making it pointless to use.
05-14-2011
05:43 AM
I think you did not have proper attention when you were little child.
You always say do not tell you how I did, as far as I can also be quiet at all.
05-14-2011
05:46 AM
math just want us to know the possibilities with the current firmwares, but he doesn't want $ony sniffing his ass. maybe he lives near the company, fair enough reason not to share. i also don't want trouble myself. we just need someone brave enough to upload such hack for the public. we should thank him since we still know that ps3 is hackable with latest firmware.
05-14-2011
05:50 AM
OtherOS wasn't pointless to use, the graphical interface/desktop only slows the PS3 down because the cell processor has to handle the graphics. Without graphics (base system, only text terminal) OtherOS is pretty fast.
I have Ubuntu 11.04 running from internal (with desktop) and with the blanker (xscreensaver, fish school) I get a framerate of 10.5. Imagine how fast it will be if we have RSX support.
Hacking of PSN has nothing to do with hacked consoles but everything with lame protection by Sony (We Only Run Outdated Apache And Have No Firewall (tm)). Using a PC to hack PSN is a lot faster than using a jailbroken PS3 for it.
Sony made themselves a target because the way they handled Linux developers and the way they abuse the law about owning a device, not because Sony wants to stop piracy.
05-14-2011
05:54 AM
I am sure he would release it if he was not afraid of being sued into the poor house.
IF the sony timetable for PSN restoration is accurate, then the next firmware is less than 20 days away; it would be irresponsible to release anything right now anyway...better to wait for the next OFW (assuming the PSN will be back online any time close to the latest Sony lies).
05-14-2011
06:03 AM
QA flags are also used to get on the other developers psn that we could not get on . on rebug
05-14-2011
06:09 AM
EDIT - Duplicate post of what Foley put, Sorry mods didn't reliese. Please remove.
05-14-2011
06:17 AM
@DaveOMac,
if you read my post you would of seen that i already linked that page
05-14-2011
06:20 AM
Sorry Foley, didn't reliese. Shall take down.
05-14-2011
06:39 AM
[QUOTE=DaveOMac;200029]Sorry Foley, didn't reliese. Shall take down.[/QUOT
it's fine, no worries
05-14-2011
06:42 AM
why dose he always do it like some one as said if he going to do stuff share it cos he seems to get all the news first starting to think he works for sony why he wont do out or share
or give it to some one who will put it out there
05-14-2011
06:52 AM
Though releasing this now also gives sony the knowledge that someone knows about it. So now they have time to change it and therefore lose it in the next update.
05-14-2011
07:15 AM
I can understand why he does not tell any one do this, this, and this because Sony could possibly ruin his life. He could have kept this very quiet, possibly tell another dev that would be willing to release it. But he just wants the fame and glory of look at me I did it first. This does help out by showing what is possible and is there, but at the same time Sony is going to see this and you know what there going to do? There going to change it or remove it before it catches on like wild fire, well that's what I would do anyway.
05-14-2011
07:25 AM
Mathieulh has a lot of talent, probably he's the kind of guy sony would try to contract, and probably he would accept.
05-14-2011
07:35 AM
Mathieulh is a ****ing coward, Sony went after geohot to scare everyone and they succeeded with mathieulh. Id rather him keep it to him self
05-14-2011
07:35 AM
http://psx-scene.com/forums/f149/how-set-qa-flag-86447/
Looks like it can be done through Asbestos/Bootos/OtherOS++. Now I know why Sony wanted Graf to STFU.
edit: Sorry it was posted a couple pages back
05-14-2011
07:38 AM
UP - UP - DOWN - DOWN - LEFT - RIGHT - LEFT - RIGHT - A - B - START
so mathieulh i herd you liek combos?
05-14-2011
07:38 AM
So you set the flag from within 3.55 and update to FW 3.60 and you have 3.60 jailbroken is my conclusion? Backup-mamagers and everything else will run from it.
05-14-2011
07:39 AM
Warning
There is no CFW
Take a look at this looks exactly the same & makes it hard to believe. What do you think ?
05-14-2011
07:40 AM
Also may i remind you guys, that flaming members of this forum is against the rules, Mathieulh is a fellow member, so stop the ignorance and insults towards him.
05-14-2011
07:42 AM
05-14-2011
07:43 AM
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Why do they publish this kind of news always just before the weekend.... My TV is in use by family again. Have to wait till tonight to play with this.
Other thing I like to now before testing is if we still can use OtherOS++ with it.
On psx-scene they say we have to set the QA flag first and do the combo afterwards. I was under the impression GameOS needs the combo to set QA and if you use linux graf his util sets the QA without the need for the combo?
05-14-2011
08:02 AM
he's just bragging!!!
05-14-2011
08:15 AM
05-14-2011
08:24 AM
05-14-2011
08:42 AM
My thoughts is, Mathieulh is not afraid to release it. He's just not releasing it because of all the whiners. I think he reads through some forums and based on the responses he makes the decision to tease (like for exaple, if 9/10 of his reader responses were negative).
05-14-2011
09:20 AM
I hope he releases his secrets and we get the ability to downgrade. I have 4 PS3's. 2 are CFW, and I use the other 2 for OFW online gameplay. They are all fatties, and have been reflowed. They are not going to last. When they die, my ability to have CFW dies. People are selling 3.55 PS3's on ebay for ridiculous prices and you can't trust the history of these and what they've been through.
It would do the scene so much good to be able to downgrade to 3.55. This would still prevent piracy (no infinite cfw), but allow us to buy any new slim and get back the homebrew we want. Sony sees new hardware sales, new releases can't be played on 3.55. Homebrew and the scene doesn't die as these consoles do.
Please help us Math. I know a lot of people hate, but I think the majority of us appreciate the hard work that the devs put in, and look to utilize rather than abuse releases. People tend to have huge balls when typing on the internet. It's so easy to piss someone off, knowing that they can't get a punch in the face :P
05-14-2011
09:35 AM
After being in the IRC this morning here is an interesting read.
http://rms.grafchokolo.com/?p=111
05-14-2011
10:22 AM
I think this person is very boring
. He tells us (a community) he can do that...he discovered a way to do something...but he does not reveal how to do 
What does he want? An applause? I think that the spirit of a forum or a community is the sharing of the knowledge 
05-14-2011
10:25 AM
I personally believe Math, as he hasn't shown anything in the past that was fake. People who ***** at M should just be banned from these forums as they have nothing to add, and 99% of those only want the CFW's for playing illegal games, and aren't interested in homebrew anyway..
One of the reason's you won't see much actual homebrew is because the uncertainty your homebrew will be playable for a long time, and the cost of having a second PS3 just for homebrew is also too high. Also the current opensource SDK (PSlight) is also still far from finished (Keep up the great work on that boys & girls on the PSLight developmentteam), and coding for the PS3 still isn't easy.. (also the lack of a real Windows based developmentsetup might have something to do with it, yes not everybody is up to linux and are mostly used to advanced IDE's like Visual Studio 20xx).
05-14-2011
10:27 AM
Mathieuth = Nostradamus
His Quatrains are so mysterious yet so informative.
Great find!
05-14-2011
10:37 AM
I also believe him, but it is pointless he has basically shown what the Dispatch Manager is capable of.
05-14-2011
10:48 AM
up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, cross, circle, start
05-14-2011
10:55 AM
First post updated with more information.
05-14-2011
10:59 AM
I would just LOL if it was the konami code.
05-14-2011
11:00 AM
I am glad the second update was made to this post. Anyone running off trying this please be warned of potentially harmful consequences.
05-14-2011
11:27 AM
I just look forward to the day when this can be done safely and properly. I just wish Sony would really stop all these firmware updates and copy protected saves.
05-14-2011
11:30 AM
copy protected saves digust me -_- ps3 messes up you backup stuff just to find out some of your saves didnt make it :|
05-14-2011
11:31 AM
I don't actually care if he releases it as if it can be done then someone will do it and release it.
What I do care about is people who get a buzz out of "I can do this and I'm not going to tell you". If that is insulting him, then so be it, I still stand by my opinion and accept any bollocking the Mods give me, and as we have recently been warned, unless it is proven then do not post it. This thread exists because it is Mathieulh and nothing else.
If it were an unknown entity that had said all this then they would be getting told to shut up until they prove it with a step by step video.
Even if it is genuine, and he is worrying about exposure to Sony, then it is a simple thing to release it anonymously. If he wants the praise (rightful) and kudos of being the originator, then he can quite easily keep an offline log of what he did and the ID he used to release it if after release Sony do nothing about it.
I have respect for his work, but no respect for the playground games he plays.
Oh one last thing, if it IS(?) a no no by Sony and people now go ahead and use his hints to do it, then just by releasing the video he is guilty in any(?) court of law for making it public, but as I said in a previous post, from what I understand it uses nothing that is not native to a PS3 running OFW.
05-14-2011
11:46 AM
Just another step in the right direction. And no flamming please. Mathieu is just a member on our forums and we don't flame our members over here at this site.
05-14-2011
11:52 AM
second, using the buttonkeys to activate the menu's is native through OFW, but setting the QA flag/token isn't...
05-14-2011
12:02 PM
How is the QA flag used then? (genuine question, as I will gladly admit being a pillock lol)
05-14-2011
12:04 PM
...maybe Mat is a SAW movie fan? He gives us some hints to reach the goal...
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Hypocrites should be banned.
05-14-2011
01:24 PM
So if this was done on a RETAIL PS3 running 3.60 how does one load grafs custom kernel with OtherOS if the PS3 is running 3.60? I am in the same boat as many of you. Updated to 3.60 and can't go back. I am sure with the knowledge/hints given most of us Linux literate members will figure it out within days and MAYBE release a CFW with the option to input the Siaxis combo to set the QA Flag :D :D : D
Counting down the seconds until I can install MutiMan!!!
05-14-2011
01:25 PM
Words of wisdom from ps3 dev (possibly graf or rms)
Ever since Mathieulh released his video, some people just want to QA flag their consoles. Now, let me tell you one thing, it’s so not easy.
Besides, if you want to use the QA flag, you have to have a valid QA token, and you have to be on a specific firmware range. Now, what’s so special about the token is that it’s generated in a funny way, I am not going to disclose that here. But, remember, PS3 hypervisor can also make tokens. But these tokens.. don’t do /anything/ except just unlock the QA repository node.
Besides, the fancy menu requires a very weird key combo on the Sixaxis, and it only works on retails. On debugs, it just removes all restrictions.
Remember, the QA flag in Syscon also requires a valid token. (reiterated again.)
So, in the end QA flagging = (Piracy*Warez)++;. Don’t do it.
05-14-2011
01:35 PM
Okay, since nothing was selected and there was no navigation in the XMB than the only buttons that could have been used in the combination were:
L1
R1
L2
R2
Start
Select
05-14-2011
01:42 PM
Why not just create a new anonymous user name over at ps3-whatever.com and just post ONE POST about how to do this (from an internet cafe' if you are paranoid) ? I am sure ALL credit will go to math because now we all KNOW who figured it out. I am sure the cat will be outta the bag soon enough....
Hopefully TODAY!
05-14-2011
01:51 PM
you are in for an impossible guess!
05-14-2011
01:52 PM
because now we all KNOW who figured it out.
Yes and so will Sony in these times its best to play it safe. Sony are at a 10 on the pissedoffometer atm no need to poke an angry bear any more than has been done already let the dust settle and as you say the truth will out
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on a serious note id say it would be between 8 and 16 (presses) for these magic beans
05-14-2011
01:54 PM
EDIT: oh yeah and R3 and L3 could have been used as well
05-14-2011
02:06 PM
yes in the video i could hear distinctive R3 L3 clicks 4 or 5 of them
Plus there is a possibility that a button must be held down while entering this code
05-14-2011
02:11 PM
By watching the video, u can see that the controller is on a desk, and he only uses one hand to press the buttons, that would rule out the shoulder buttons, in theory. The xmb doesnt move left or right, only up and down, so that rules out LEFT and RIGHT, but includes UP and DOWN!!
The button press pattern WILL slowly be narrowed down :P lol
05-14-2011
02:20 PM
Will someone just remake this video to show everyone how easy this would be to fake... Honestly why is it that no one believes any of the 3.60 downgrade videos but the second Math releases something everyone drools over it? The guys a fake and will remain so until he either releases something or, shows proof its real. His current proof is a video that looks like a baby was holding the camera and what looks like a altered Rebug FW. Please can someone tell me why this guys video is news?
05-14-2011
02:24 PM
05-14-2011
02:25 PM
05-14-2011
02:25 PM
if you can use r1,r2,r3,l1,l2,l3,
,
,
,up,down,start and select you only have 6227020800 possibilities(1*2*3*4*5*...*13) xD
05-14-2011
02:29 PM
05-14-2011
02:30 PM
Just a thought, but could a homebrew app be written to find out the button sequence? There aren't that many different buttons that could be used and it's not like they are case sensitive lol. That would make a brute force attack very feasible. If a program could be written to input combinations of button pushes and then check some sort of flag for success then it would be broken in no time. Again, just a thought and I don't know how do-able it would be.
05-14-2011
02:33 PM
To all the people that keep asking this question "Why show us?"
So he can show us we can do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05-14-2011
02:41 PM
I don't actually care if he releases it as if it can be done then someone will do it and release it.
What I do care about is people who get a buzz out of "I can do this and I'm not going to tell you". If that is insulting him, then so be it, I still stand by my opinion and accept any bollocking the Mods give me, and as we have recently been warned, unless it is proven then do not post it. This thread exists because it is Mathieulh and nothing else.
If it were an unknown entity that had said all this then they would be getting told to shut up until they prove it with a step by step video.
Even if it is genuine, and he is worrying about exposure to Sony, then it is a simple thing to release it anonymously. If he wants the praise (rightful) and kudos of being the originator, then he can quite easily keep an offline log of what he did and the ID he used to release it if after release Sony do nothing about it.
I have respect for his work, but no respect for the playground games he plays.
Oh one last thing, if it IS(?) a no no by Sony and people now go ahead and use his hints to do it, then just by releasing the video he is guilty in any(?) court of law for making it public, but as I said in a previous post, from what I understand it uses nothing that is not native to a PS3 running OFW.
Read more: http://www.ps3hax.net/2011/05/mathie...#ixzz1MME5xbsp
Good and true post wolfe. clearly this guy, who has done the vid, just like's to show off and not share the love.
05-14-2011
02:52 PM
It's been asked before, but if it's an "UNMODIFIED RETAIL FIRMWARE" then according to the suggestions of how to do it, it must be running Linux (correct me if I'm wrong please), so just what OFW is it running as OtherOS was removed quite some time ago???????????
05-14-2011
02:56 PM
Ok so if anyone of you has a psgroove compatible dongle then please use graf's payload to dump your flash, use the guide at ps3devwiki which must be from Mathieulh himself.
Sent from my X10mini using Tapatalk
05-14-2011
02:58 PM
05-14-2011
02:59 PM
...and a little consideration or two, about the great M capabilities. How he did it? There is no way to find a right button combination to activate a secret menù on Ps3. Too many combinations. Or you know exactly what are you doing or it is a great waste of time...and when he started his idea to do a combination to open a secret menù???? Who knew about a secret menù? Only the great M??? Or maybe a person working inside "Ps3 industry" that have some contact whit Mat
He should stop to do the "nobel prize scientist".
Mat did not wake up a morning thinking about a menù activation by a buttons combination. There is something strange
Or maybe the aliens...in the area 51 told him...
05-14-2011
03:03 PM
Math is a great dude in the scene
He never releases anything directly. He just drops hints to the public domain untill someone else figures out how to do it.
By conduding himself in this way he never opens himself up to unjust giant crab lawsuits
05-14-2011
03:17 PM
Im not trying to bash Math in no means all im saying is use a little bit of tac.
PS Math dont take it personal dude, its just a suggeston.
05-14-2011
03:18 PM
Off coarse he is esj, if this leads to other thing's, didn't that Geo burke do the same? The truth is this guy just like's his ego played with & has some contact's with some one in the know.
05-14-2011
03:52 PM
a base Linux system can run as a print, file, mail etc. server. Have a look at the webmin page to see what a base system can do. I use it to control (ok testing fase) the PS3 using my laptop. I only have to open the webmin page in my laptop browser and I can do a lot with the PS3.
And sorry I am that old I am also used to use the terminal and leave out the desktop.
RSX drivers (at least for 2D) won't take long I think.
I don't say PSN users deserve it (though some of them do, reading their brainwashed comments) their user info was comprimized. I do say Sony wanted to learn the Linux community a lesson, and they got the lesson as hard back as they gave it. Acting like a bully doesn't make a big manufacturer populair.
And there is a difference in ddos'ing and breaking into systems. They deserved the ddos'ing but I don't agree with hacking the servers.
Do note it was a populair way in the early days to leave a message on a hacked server and do nothing with the info available. Till now there is nothing pointing it happened otherwise. How long does it take to download 77 million user account info's?
Maybe Sony is making this a lot bigger as it originally is.....
05-14-2011
05:09 PM
Can this be done on a retail OFW PS3?
05-14-2011
05:09 PM
Not to mention neither of my PS3s can run OtherOS because one is updated to the latest firmware and the other doesn't have vflash so I can't install OtherOS on it if I wanted to (presently). I'm more concerned with the lack of PSN right now because all I really want to do with my PS3, with a full-powered OtherOS not being an option, is play online games.
05-14-2011
05:25 PM
05-14-2011
05:37 PM
This is the unique and real problem.
Rely on a selfish and "probably" a teenager guy to do it for us.
If he dont want trouble with $ony...it´s only a matter of telling the Dev Teams without warning nobody...and nobody , include $ony , will know him..
Let´s go to another PS3 CFW chapter...
$ony vs neighborhood children
05-14-2011
05:56 PM
why does he do this, if he's not going to tell anyone how it can be done or help the scene i would rather him keep his finds to himself. why does he think he is better than everyone else, math your ego has got the better of you. you are no better than anyone else who uses the ps3 for whatever purpose. it's just the same when he told everyone that he found the 3.60 keys, but he was not telling anyone how or where to find them. i understand that he knows alot about the ps3 and he has some very well known friends, but stop trying to make out your some kind of scene royality...........................sudeki300
05-14-2011
07:11 PM
Both my PC and laptop are faster as the PS3, both have also the abbility to run 6 OS'es
You might have seen I was (still am sometimes) a fanatic Amiga user in the early days and only the PS3 gives me a little the feeling back I had in the early days about computing. Maybe also because I hope to run AmigaOS (maybe Aros) on the PS3 natively once
05-14-2011
07:26 PM
holy man that man is a jackass.
05-14-2011
07:30 PM
oh math dont release your ideas i cracked them myself here u go guys
equirements:
grafs kernel, ps3dm-utils and linux_hv_scripts
to patch your DM you have to run dmpatch.sh (skip if you're on gitbrew fw)
read QA flag:
Code:
ps3dm_um /dev/ps3dmproxy read_eprom 0x48C0A
it should return 0xFF on retail ps3.
just set it to 0x00
write QA flag: <- on your own risk!
Code:
ps3dm_um /dev/ps3dmproxy write_eprom 0x48C0A 0x00
OR
ps3dm_um /dev/ps3dmproxy write_eprom 0x48C0A 0xFF
its a very mighty tool. you can also enable product mode and other things.
05-14-2011
07:36 PM
stop taking credit for something that was posted on ps3devwiki -.-
05-14-2011
07:36 PM
Don't copy and paste without a source mediaboom!
05-14-2011
07:39 PM
im doing htis myself now so far i have gotten somewhere with it if i get this to work cuz i got lots of spare ps3s ill be posting noob friendly tutorial if possible patched pup or pkg if possible hang in there guys hack of all hacks
05-14-2011
07:42 PM
It's not yourself. You didn't create the wiki. And no one here will ever download a pup file from you newbie
05-14-2011
07:59 PM
I get your point but you didn't need to call him a newbie and tell him that no one would ever download a pup from him. He very well could release the next best CFW and then what?
05-14-2011
08:03 PM
Probably not necessary to call him a noob. But stealing someone's work without giving credit already makes his posts questionable. Prove me wrong Mediaboom
05-14-2011
08:14 PM
I somehow doubt that people that steal work from other people, and copy it in here thinking we are dumb enough to believe him will create the next custom firmware...
05-14-2011
09:00 PM
I know this guy done a lot but I just don't like him he is like the troll of hackers. His ego is up to par with geohot aswell. Anyways hope someone figures this thing out and releases it cuz that is really cool.
05-14-2011
09:59 PM
seriously if hes going to brag & show off he better release it... or ppl are just gonna think hes a wuss
05-14-2011
10:04 PM
more fake b.s.
this is on a 3.41fw console.
idiots.
05-14-2011
10:08 PM
It's still something nice. Now take your flaming somewhere else.
05-14-2011
11:32 PM
He's working for sony..lol. By showing what he's done in videos sony is then taking this info and further more securing "their" system. Probably being paid to find security threats and then posting them to get a juicy check.
05-15-2011
12:17 AM
05-15-2011
12:28 AM
Yes running regular linux as a simple 'office'desktop replacement the PS3 isn't the best choice (but a nice choice if you only have one regular computer and that one crashes), but when it comes to computing it's still a hell of a beast..
05-15-2011
04:14 AM
To All,
I just want to point out that is area is specific to only people that knows what they are doing. This method is a make or break senario and u might lose a $300 machine if done wrong.
As for people crying about Mathieulh showing but not telling type junk. Mathieulh showed u what it can do and now its ur job to find out. He is not a dev that will wipe ur arse and give u a hack on a golden plater. Anyways this is my 2 cents.
05-15-2011
04:30 AM
The biggest gripe most users in the PS3-Scene have with Mathieulh is his apparent "ego".
It isn't the 'norm' for a Dev to tease the scene with something some of us have been dying for and then tell us that you aren't going to release it. As a scene, as a community, we need to share all discoveries. Big or small. What kind of community teases the rest with a discovery on this scale? And then has the nerve to say "..I'm glad I stopped sharing".
If more Dev's were like Mathieulh, then this wouldn't be a community. It would be an honest to God, popularity contest.
What if a doctor found the cure to cancer, or found a way to extent the human lifespan by fifty years? Then said "Nope. I'm going to keep this for myself, but here is a video proving it's existence."
That's not looking out for the community.
05-15-2011
05:20 AM
From what Ive been reading in other tech discussions on this subject, it seems that we may have been a little over anxious on how to achieve the end result. Its a 3 part scenario
1 QA Flag eeprom
2 console then looks for valid token
3 input button sequence
Without that token you could try conjuring up a brute attack homebrew to the nth degree and we still wouldn't see results.
Someone else probably knows what I'm on about and can word it better, but I just thought I'd give a little input as in my little skim through this thread I didnt notice anyone mention anything about needing a Valid Token.
05-15-2011
06:08 AM
If you write ffmpeg or VLC to make use of the spe's (the real power of the Cell processor) it will be faster to encode HD video using Linux. In theory the cell is faster, but there is almost no SPE support within Linux making it use the PPE only. I have no time to test it but I do think my i7 3Ghz with 8 cores and 6 Gb memory in combination with my overclocked Nvidia GTX-260 can do the job faster. Not because of the raw processor power but because of the lack of SPE support.
05-15-2011
06:33 AM
I can start a new thread for you to debate in if you guys want....
05-15-2011
06:45 AM
05-15-2011
07:03 AM
Sorry, but Graf is being sued for what he has done, and you are seriously saying that Math is employed by Sony and allowed to give his ego boosting hints?
I think you may need to do some more research of what a standard NDA entails
05-15-2011
07:05 AM
But I will get more ON topic, let's talk only about math, he likes it
05-15-2011
09:05 AM
Mods, please stop posting Math related "news". He is a huge troll in the most basic of ways.
05-15-2011
09:18 AM
05-15-2011
12:02 PM
i agree with ibivibiv in his comment
fair enough its news
but pointless news
anything and everything by this troll is for his ego boost
here i found out how to do this n that
but im not going to show you how to do it ?!?!?!
WTF
grow a pair man
if your scared of FONY email me how to do it ill gladly post up and take the credz for it.
serious tho
everything thats posted about this guys doing's is "i know and you dont" thats it !!!!
BORING
move along now NOTHING TO SEE here
dave
05-15-2011
12:21 PM
There are some genuine people here that actually cares about being able to use the hacks only for actual 'legal' homebrew, but those are too few in this community (just as with the PSP-community and why dark-alex left that community which in his eyes misused his work). Also Sony wouldn't care less if the PS3 was hacked if people only used it for homebrew and not for illegal gamez, as in that case it wouldn't hurt their business, but hee the so called 'community' are abusing the hacks in a way it hurts their business..
I agree with M to not share the exploits he found to an immature community..
And his hints did have a real impact, just look at what has already been found due to his showing of his video. (But then again most of that is also ripped from an IRC log)..
05-15-2011
12:38 PM
I struggle to see how anyone can be described as immature in comparison to Math. I have been following similar threads on other sites as well as this one, and some of the replies he has made there honestly do make him seem childish, let alone immature.
As I have said before, it's his call what he does, but in my opinion he needs to grow up in the way he is doing it. I know he is better at coding etc than I am, but in the same vein I would say from what I have seen of Grafs work that Graf is better than Math, but has anyone seen Graf acting like a spoilt child who gets his jollies out of making others feel inferior?
I think you will find that the majority dislike him because of his attitude and the way some people put him on a pedestal and take his word as law.
05-15-2011
01:22 PM
ok lets get some facts straight! STOP BASHING Mathieulh! no excuses you don't like him fine! but no insults! Act mature! this forum is not for little kids, you either are little and act mature or you are mature and stop trolling and insulting!
Now! Mathieulh does share! what the hell are you talking about?! do you really forgot who made psgroove possible (of course not all his work but still he did his job), do you know who released the first retail package decrypter? thats right!
also some of the work (documentation) on ps3devwiki was by him.
before geohot came with the metloader key, mathieulh had released keys that would enable homebrew on the ps3!
So how is this not sharing?? it is not sharing because you demand a stupid click me to jailbreak solution!
but hey i will continue the new keys for 3.56 that he posted 2 weeks or 3 weeks ago remember those?? well only for posting that he received that beautiful cease and desist (or whatever it is called) because of that!
Do you think he will risk anything by releasing stuff to everyone, so us can have fun meanwhile he gets sued? i don't think none would do that, so why are you demanding that from him?
Now why is everyone complaining??
he already said what is needed to do! in order to flag a retail machine to QA, better yet there is a tutorial on how to do it! and yet you keep complaining that he is not sharing??? really he is not?? so what is saying " that won't work you firstly need to modify the token and then flash the eeprom" how is this not sharing he is pointing you in the right direction!! we have a tutorial on how to change a token we have a tutorial on how to change the flag! he told you what to do, its just following instructions...
05-15-2011
01:58 PM
im not surprised ppl flame him... its like hes found the meaning of life but he can't give us the answers... only show off about it... guys an A hole.
05-15-2011
02:34 PM
It saddens me to hear such pathetic, ignorant and selfish whining from so many members. Mathieulh has delivered consistantly to the PS3 scene and all you people can do is piss and moan that he wont put his freedom on the line by spoon-feeding you a tutorial. He has explained the process to do this, I'm sure that there are countless devs that have done so by now. He stands to gain nothing for his good work - how about you give the guy a break.
Congrats with the find Math,you
05-15-2011
02:43 PM
05-15-2011
02:46 PM
He's at a point where he can really say ANYTHING and get it front-paged and then say afterwards "Oh yeah, and I'm not releasing it."
He can probably leave the scene for some years, come back, say something like "Oh yeah, I hacked the PS4." and "I'm not releasing it." and BOOM! Front-page news.
I'm angry with Mathieulh to an extent, but it's mainly the community that angers more often because it's the community that keeps his ego alive.
05-15-2011
02:49 PM
PLEASE denotes a request not a dictation. It is your forum, do what you want. Dictating would have read like this:
Mods immediately cease and desist all posting of "news" by the heretofore and forever self appointed Troll at large Math.
See the difference in tone?
05-15-2011
02:59 PM
lolz this is too funny! xD xD this scene just started to get a little interesting with all these hilarious comments xD (grabs popcorn and drink)
05-15-2011
03:02 PM
Do you really think he needs your backup? He truly does act in the way of a Troll as he knows exactly what responses his actions will bring.
He may be the most talented PS3 hacker on the planet, but it will not alter my opinion of him. I have stated before and I will do so again to try and forestall any insults directed at me.... I do NOT give a fairies cup about PSN or whether or not 3.60/1 is due to be hacked, as if/when it happens it happens. I Do care about watching someone with an ego that could dwarf the Sun be fawned over by his devoted followers though. Give him acknowledgement and thanks by all means, but for Gods sake, get your toungue out of his backside as the ONLY reason he does it is to get adoration and pity from you for being wonderful and flamed by others.
05-15-2011
03:03 PM
05-15-2011
03:15 PM
You want to have normal users experimenting with graf his tools on Linux? This is still on a dev level and only advanced users are able to play with graf his tools without bricking change. We are talking about changing values in the EEprom here to set the QA flag for example...
Without knowing the combo I won't even experiment with it while I know my way around in Linux and have graf his utils installed. I have time and will see what will come out of it.
05-15-2011
03:33 PM
yeah like oozic said we still miss the combo, but other than that we have pratically everything...
05-15-2011
04:50 PM
BTW "I do NOT give a faries cup....blah..... I Do care about watching someone with an ego that could dwarf the Sun be fawned over by his devoted followers though" is pure gold LMAO
05-15-2011
05:10 PM
05-15-2011
05:11 PM
If Linux is needed for QA flagging and it is almost equal to warez, then is this the main why Sony is going after Graf with such extreme prejudice? I mean, aside from the fact that they are such a-holes.
05-15-2011
05:15 PM
05-15-2011
05:52 PM
well i don't think so, i think they are only after graf for the same motive they were after geohot, because they don't want them to be messing with their machine.
05-15-2011
06:08 PM
Great another contest of what math can do that we cant..
By the way guys i can still jailbreak any ps3 firmware and make the ps3 play xbox 360 games. But im not gonnna tell you how to do it.
This is some more non-entertainment from math.
And if he really does have the 3.55+ keys than why hasnt he done anythin with them?? pretty soon its gonna be too late because there is already 3.61 OFW. he should of at least gave the 3.55+ keys to one of us so we could do work on it instead of wastin them
Thumbs down all the way down
05-15-2011
06:45 PM
************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
Hm, I think Matlieuth or however you spell it (lulz) should probably release it since 3.61 uses everything 3.60 does, except something that tells you to change your password, and added the power save controller feature. Keys are the same, so far...
************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
Next they're going to come out with 3.70, which should be a real hoot...they never reply to my emails asking if they will bring back OtherOS. LOL
05-15-2011
07:56 PM
Mathieulh can stick that Flag into his A**!! What's the use if all he does is say "I can do it, you can't dadadadadda i'm badass!!" I won't watch vids from a guy like this. For all we know all his vids can be simple fakes;
05-15-2011
08:56 PM
Mathieulh is a member of our forum next insult = Infraction!
and vgturtle no man he won't release it.
05-15-2011
09:07 PM
I lurk more than I post, but this is beginning to bother me now.
I wish people would stop being negative towards Math. Would you rather him keep it to himself or show other people the potential holes in the system? It's obvious that he doesn't want to catch heat from Sony and I don't think anyone with a reasonable mind can blame him.
Look at it this way, if he did release that 3.60 exploit when he posted information about it (and everyone cried about how Math was just saying look what I can do. Much like this situation.) Sony would've patched it with 3.61, and we'd be stuck again only a few short months later. Some of you people don't realize the cat and mouse game that is really going on here.
I appreciate the fact that he has given the scene this much information about the QA flag menu. I know he is trying to get the word out so a faceless team or person will figure it out and release the method so that nobody catches the wrath of Sony. Be patient people and stop being so immature about someone who is just trying to progress the scene.
05-15-2011
09:21 PM
Im still curious as to how he could possibly know that there was a secret button combination that was needed to activate the secret menu.
05-15-2011
09:31 PM
05-15-2011
09:31 PM
I just think we need more Dev's on the same or greater caliber as Mathieulh. If we had more Dev's, then people wouldn't complain because somebody else would release these. The fact of the matter is, is that Mathieulh and Graf are the two smartest Dev's in the scene. Graf is dealing with a lawsuit and primarily focuses on Linux, while Mathieulh finds exploits and releases them via Twitter/YouTube without the steps needed in order to execute them.
Like I said, if we had more Dev's then this wouldn't even matter. Someone else would do it ya digg...
05-15-2011
09:32 PM
05-15-2011
09:35 PM
05-15-2011
09:38 PM
05-15-2011
09:41 PM
05-15-2011
09:45 PM
05-16-2011
01:52 AM
For what it's worth here's my opinion.
People have no right to bad mad at Math. He's contributed more the the PS3 hacking scene than most people.
This is a prime example. He said check out this flag I found. Not more than a few days later someone figures out how to activate the flag through Linux. Math didn't show the method but he got devs thinking in different perspectives. Now were a simple button combination away from some serious hacking enhancements.
Be happy for what's been done and don't take the scene too seriously, it's all for fun anyways.
05-16-2011
04:20 AM
05-16-2011
04:28 AM
i think Mathieulh is milking it too much, he is just a epenis tease
so what if he can do this and he can do that unless he releases things then who really cares, this is just my thought,but i think Mathieulh is living in his own little bubble,and what proof is there to say to say that he has the keys for 3.60-3.61,i dont see any latest games being played buy him with his cfw
05-16-2011
02:41 PM
Mmmmm... if the unlock code is in this vsh.elf file or what not... or if it is in some other file we have access to... I am thinking...
Does that mean you could edit the file and change the unlock code?
If so... could you then change it to the Konami code and luls yourself crazy?
Or is the code just revealed there, and not verified by that file?
*edit*
So I'm staring at this vsh.elf someone put up and I have no idea what I'm looking for. It should be noted that I have the coding skills of a leaf in the wind.
05-16-2011
02:44 PM
potentially as long as you can resign and re-encrypt it, but its not advisable
05-16-2011
03:18 PM
so should a copy of the file can be recommended than? if you possibillty think its dangerous to try only on one file
05-16-2011
04:20 PM
Immature definition from dictionary.com = "Having emotional development appropriate to someone younger."
I'd just like to suggest that the only people who are "throwing their toys out of the pram" about this whole situation, people who are getting emotional about this, are more than likely the guys who want to use a jailbreak for pirating purposes.
Let's make one thing clear... without dev's, most of you, myself included, wouldn't have had a clue with how to even start working on a jailbreak for any console... without dev's this site would not exist, without Math this discussion would not be possible...
the guy has found out how to do something and there's not one person on this forum that wouldn't love too know how to do it... but to get to the point where your flaming on someone for refusing to share that information is beyond immature...
i ain't sticking up for math, or putting my tongue up his ass (as some of you mature pillars of the community have put it). i don't know the guy, won't ever speak to him, wont ever meet him, couldnt give a damn about him to be honest... but he's one of the reasons this community exists... one of the reasons you guys belong to a community...
if it wasn't possible we wouldn't have known about it, we know its possible now, it gives us hope... it gives reason for others to continue where Math dare tred due to his prominance in the community (and a big red sony crosshair trained on him for that very reason...) the clues have been given... spend your energies reading how to help the community instead of flaming it... if your unhappy with the way certain Dev's work, then learn to develop and change it... until then information of new "holes" like this should excite you, not make you say this information is pointless because we can't use it... it can lead us to a solution that wasn't there yesterday... how the hell is that pointless??
your ps3 can do things you never thought it would be able too when you bought it... your already in bonus territory due to these guys... respect them, respect each other and have fun within this community... your moaning, your immaturity, not Maths, is hurting it...
05-16-2011
04:28 PM
@blinkingdogg
very well said
05-16-2011
04:45 PM
welcome to the forums, great post blinkingdogg
05-16-2011
05:01 PM
Welcome and nice post blinkingdogg, although I am one of the ones who dislike Math
I have respect for his work and contributions (anyone who doesn't is an idiot), but in my opinion his attitude stinks.
05-16-2011
05:56 PM
Reason behind the videos being marked "private"?
05-16-2011
07:04 PM
If math is a guy with so good reasons and all he wants is just show us that can be done, why does he bother making a VIDEO showing himself? Why cant he just say, hey i manage to do that and that. And the worse, he says he is scared to death about sony on his tail, but he continues to make videos showing himself and his breaks on sony's products. So even if someone MANAGES TO FIND out how to do this things he does, a big part the credit and responsibility will come to him, because he was the first to show it can be done. What i want to say is, or this guy is a big liar, or he's a big idiot, because if he shows it can be done, and even give leads about, but he doesnt release because he claims he's scared, it doesnt mean that if someone else manage to do he will go free. I will apologize if someone shows me i am completely wrong, but right now, we're all excited about something we dont even know if it's true.
05-16-2011
07:52 PM
05-16-2011
08:13 PM
^^^ i doubt that, i think he is doing what all the devs are doing, milling of millions & millions lines of code...
05-16-2011
09:55 PM
05-16-2011
10:00 PM
05-16-2011
10:01 PM
Yeah, I wish
05-16-2011
10:45 PM
If math were to say oh i found this most people would shout fake out the top of their lungs hes just showing you guys evidence if i was the guy i wouldnt get mad at all the rude comments i would just laugh because you are just mad you cant be on the guys level
05-17-2011
12:47 AM
Community < Best joke in this whole thread.....
Hand full of developers + millions of ungrateful users != community.
If you can't appreciate what is given freely and don't contribute anything you are NOT part of any community.
Unless you have something constructive and helpful to say to help thing's along you should remain one of the silent majority.
Before you flame me, maybe you should look up my nick first!!
05-17-2011
01:25 AM
As for the talk of Math releasing fake videos, do your research into the history of the scene, then post about his work being fake. A lot of you seem upset with his attitude? Why? Do you plan on having dinner with the guy? This isnt a personal issue... It's not important... something has been contributed to the community, and so the community is more knowledgable and better placed than it was...
The accusations about the information coming from with Sony? Who cares? It wouldn't matter if he had a pet monkey telling him the way... All that matters is that the information and lead about this "hole" is now with us... Being concerned about if he himself got that information through his own work is making the issue "personal"... It's not personal ok? This is a ps3 hack not a family argument...
It is not illegal to know this information or even to use this information for your own ends, the legality issue would stem from distributing the method freely, giving Sony justification to pound his backside...
Look all I'm trying to say is, you guys are flaming about a dev because he's not contributing the way he should... Guess what? Your flaming... It's YOU guys who aren't contributing how YOU should...
05-17-2011
01:54 AM
klusth no one has to look up your name to know who you are your well respected for your work sir i mentioned your name not to long ago people like you keep the scene going
05-17-2011
02:57 AM
say... i got a job here for you :P
05-17-2011
06:19 AM
dat anti-piracy...
i know for a fact every anti-pirate here has never downloaded anything so much as a song, and for damn sure have listened to every piece of music on youtube or every music video, or movie, or whatever WITH the proper permissions from the author, oh... and of course they only play emulated games they physically have hard copies of.
COOL STORY BRO.
05-17-2011
06:32 AM
what goes on behind closed doors is nobodies business but as soon as you openly help/admit/condone such acts, whoever needs it has enough reason to persue you.
there are non pirates
non stupid pirates (they never admit)
stupid pirates (I can haz free shizzle, so sue me >.>)
out of 3 types, only 2 are distinguishable. one is self proclaimed guilty and 2 are publically seen as not guilty.
be smart be safe and don't help warez kiddies which mathieulh isnt doing directly. everyone knows it's possible now and if they want warez that bad they know what to do. the exact info cannot be given out without promoting piracy.
there are enough smart people who will figure this out so everyone just needs to chill out a while.
05-17-2011
06:39 AM
This sort of thing is counter productive......He claims he has this little hack/s,
which he has done several times before......but says " I am not going to share ".
Well that's fine, it's his to do what he wants with.....but people we have become his play things......he teases us with these finds, throws them all over the internet but then refuses to give us details on how to do these things ourselves....
It's like me getting a packet of chocolate buttons, showing them to my two year old daughter, eating some to show her just how enjoyable they are......Then telling her she cant have any while I continue to enjoy them as she watches.......
It's cruel, if I'm going to enjoy the chocolate then why do I need to show the kid what she's missing.....
If he can do this that's fine, if he don't want to show us how he did it that's fine, but there's no bloody need to keep teasing us, that's cruel and not exactly the actions of a mature person.....
If he don't wanna share he can please himself, but if he ain't gonna share then he should just keep it to himself......
I for one refuse to be his source of amusement, he can go find a dog, tie a juicy bone just out of reach and get his kicks watching the canines frustration.
05-17-2011
06:43 AM
even if it isn't handed to you on a golden platter it doesn't mean he's not helping.
05-17-2011
06:43 AM
05-17-2011
06:45 AM
*facepalm*
05-17-2011
06:45 AM
@Hukfed
Careful at saying he is immature. You will get called it in return lol. Mainly because most people who read a post that is against Mathieulh automatically jump to the conclusion the author of it just wants more CFW and free things. They seem to be blind to the point that it's the way he does it that annoys most adults.
05-17-2011
06:51 AM
if you admit it you take the repercussions on sites/channels that state they are anti-piracy.
05-17-2011
06:56 AM
05-17-2011
07:47 AM
I vote this post should be removed since it doesn't help in downgrading my 3.60
05-17-2011
09:28 AM
how exactly does it not help? its exposed a possibility, its exposed an avenue of which to venture... unbelievable...
05-17-2011
09:40 AM
Im still curius how he became aware a controller code was needed and how he found it.
05-17-2011
09:57 AM
@japsander
"if he just kept it to himself, we wouldn't know it was possible and nobody would be trying to do it. even if it isn't handed to you on a golden platter it doesn't mean he's not helping."
You really missed the whole point, people who use this and other forums are not likely to be super hackers.....they are just normal everyday users who are looking for the latest hacks/cracks/info/news.....
It is not helping these people to put this type of info on these forums.....
If he or anybody like him want's other Dev's to know that this is possible if they look in the right area, then most have sites that they usually trade info on....he could have let this info out to these Dev's without yet again winding up the general PS3 user.....He regardless of your opinion of him, is building quite a little reputation for this kind of "here is the hack working, no I wont tell you how I did it"........these forums are not the place to let other Dev's in on the secret......
@Wolfie708
I didn't mean to imply he was immature....just the whole " here it is, no you can't have it " type game he likes to play......
I'm sure he is a very nice person, but he seems to have just a little sadistic streak in him....lol
05-17-2011
10:00 AM
@Hukfed
I Do imply he is immature
EDIT I know a wee bit about sadism and masochism, and trust me, he fits neither
05-17-2011
10:03 AM
05-17-2011
10:05 AM
and the funny thing hoosier_d is, guess what!? its already patched -.-
05-17-2011
10:08 AM
05-17-2011
10:11 AM
its already patched since 3.56, it will only work until 3.55... this wouldn't even work to allow people to play new games etc... don't get me wrong i still want to find out how to do it there is people workinng on it as we speak, still if you expected to update forever and beyond and retain homebrew, you are wrong, it doesn't work that way, it did, but it doesn't anymore.
05-17-2011
10:15 AM
05-17-2011
03:32 PM
I can think of two reasons why a hacker would repeatedly announce discoveries but provide no details.
first is to protect himself. In this case, the best way to protect himself is to not announce anything at all. mathieulh doesn't seem to benefit much from the effects of the announcements. Unless everyone who says it's just for attention is right.
second is to protect someone else. Someone like a Sony engineer feeding him information, with an understanding that he never reveal his methods because they make use of information no hacker would know to look for unless they're tipped off to its existence. Such as the mysterious button combo. Saying too much might give away the source.
My conspiracy theory is Ken Kutaragi's Revenge.
05-17-2011
03:41 PM
Math claims he has stopped doing ps3 stuff now, so there shouldn't be any more of these vids for people to complain about.
[01:09:24] <Mathieulh> but I stopped doing ps3 stuffs anyway
[01:09:31] <Mathieulh> starting today
[01:09:47] <SephGreec> seriously?
[01:09:50] <Mathieulh> yah
[01:09:54] <Mathieulh> I anounced it on twitter
[01:10:05] <SephGreec> you won't be comin' back to PS3?
[01:10:06] <Mathieulh> ps3 is boring
[01:10:17] <Mathieulh> what would I be comming back for ?
Source
05-17-2011
03:53 PM
05-17-2011
04:04 PM
everyone knows mathieulh stoped working on the ps3 and quit the scene!
05-17-2011
04:15 PM
05-17-2011
04:36 PM
05-17-2011
05:40 PM
Honestly what did he do anyway ? Im sorry, I just think its better off as I rather not have someone that likes to tease ,stroke his ego, and who extermly arrogant.
05-17-2011
05:59 PM
[01:09:24] <Mathieulh>What do you get when you cross a ps3 with a member of the ps3Hax community?
[01:09:47] <SephGreec> huh?
[01:09:50] <Mathieulh> What do you get when you cross a ps3 with a member of the ps3Hax community?
[01:10:05] <SephGreec> I guess Im not following you
[01:10:06] <Mathieulh> What do you get when you cross a ps3 with a member of the ps3Hax community?
[01:10:17] <SephGreec>Oh I see, this is a joke
[01:10:20] <Mathieulh>.............you have to say it
[01:10:25] <SephGreec> Ok, what do you get when you cross a ps3 with a member of the ps3Hax community?.............I GIVE UP
[01:10:28] <Mathieulh>I know, but Im not telling
05-17-2011
06:09 PM
That said though, if that log is correct, does anyone really need to say anything negative about his maturity?
05-17-2011
07:15 PM
ehhh nonsense aside i was around and i know what he did for the scene so he will be missed -_-
05-17-2011
07:31 PM
Ive not read anywhere an important question that should have been asked, when inputting the button combo is timing an issue? Also remember the dongle code for gt5 auto raceing (cant remember what it was called), could this not be used to input the combo each time it is required? Obviously i mean once the combo has been found.
05-17-2011
07:41 PM
oh well, i seem to recall Geohot about a year ago say he quit fiddling with the ps3 as well.
i don't really mind either way, my ps3 is hacked.
wish i could downgrade without the format, wish i could dual boot 3.41 and 3.55 and 3.61, wish i had my psn back, wish i had an ingame power meter to tell me how much power the ps3 was using at any given time, wish i could boot otheros on launch of gameos and just click an icon back and forth between the two with no delay, wish all games would play diskless, wish i had a psp, ps1 and ps2, n64, saturn, dreamcast, gamecube, xbox, 3do, jaguar, 3ds, ds, wii emulators would be made but if you look very closely at my sig, you can see where i stand on wishes.
Math, good luck to ya, peace and thanks for all the fish.
05-17-2011
08:16 PM
05-17-2011
08:18 PM
Dude= many hateful things
05-17-2011
08:19 PM
Yes it is a fake log, but i didn't find out until i had already made a fool of myself >.<
05-17-2011
08:19 PM
05-17-2011
08:23 PM
Mathieulh is a member of this forum, Mathieulh is a respected member of the scene, when you tell these stupid ignorant lies it makes him look bad, it makes people think he actually said it, which is wrong, you don't have to like someone , but don't fabricate crap about them.
05-17-2011
08:28 PM
Ya, I get where your coming from.............again it was a joke and I thought it apparent, but obviously it was not otherwise someone as sharp as yourself would have seen it for what it truly was..............my bad.
As far as respecting Mathieulh...............well, I do not.
05-17-2011
08:36 PM
05-17-2011
08:36 PM
05-17-2011
08:42 PM
Show us you run Linux and you play with graf his tools to change EEprom settings, enabling PS3vflashb and mess around with it while not bricking. Show us your IDA reverse engineering results...
Show us you are at the same level (+-) as the person you are complaining about.
Maybe then you have the right to flame someone, but then you don't need PS3Hax to do it and you can complain to him directly.....
05-17-2011
08:50 PM
05-17-2011
09:01 PM
hoosier_d isn't obligated to respect Mathieulh. If he doesn't respect him then he doesn't respect him. Nothing more needs to be said.
05-17-2011
10:15 PM
i just hope mathieulh keeps posting more exploits everyday! how old are you 8?? dude that stupid post would start another drama in the scene!
next time time think before acting!
05-17-2011
10:17 PM
05-17-2011
10:27 PM
Does anyone know what units are originally flagged internally?? Its seems that it may help if a dump from one already flagged unit could be vital for an outsider to get in on the action.
05-17-2011
10:54 PM
I say to ban all those who start High School Bullsh*t. This board needs to be viewed in a positive manner.
/Maybe just a dream
//MLK had a dream and see what happened for civil rights
///Anyone who flames that last comment are those who need to be banned
05-17-2011
10:56 PM
@bruiser brody, what do you mean flagged internal? you mean by default? they are flagged as retail 0x00
a dump? only if its the token dump, other than that not really usefull.
05-17-2011
11:00 PM
So, Im 8 and yet managed to fake the Supermoderator with an obvious joke? Ok, whatever. You guys can either let it go or continue and ban me. Im not going to beg your forgiveness either way.
05-18-2011
12:35 AM
@Pockets Sorry I meant which type of consoles already have valid tokens. I noticed from this link that was posted earlier that at first Math wanted to acquire a token seed from a QA'ed console. I was wondering if there was a specific test or tool unit.
http://www.eurasia.nu/images/submitt...g_irc_chat.txt
05-18-2011
02:34 AM
05-18-2011
05:29 AM
"That guy" set his videos private, if you like i re-uploaded them here, you can add them to first post.
DOWNGRADE: YouTube - QA flag downgrade720p H 264 AAC
QA FLAG: YouTube - QA flag downgrade720p H 264 AAC
I found another video by a certain "Theteckgamer" where he perform a QA downgrade, i don't know if it's real...
05-18-2011
06:15 AM
Civil rights.. PS3 Scene, yep i can see how those go hand in hand.
i like how you are like BAN ANYONE WHO DOES THIS all nazi style, and then right after you say this board has to be viewed in a positive manner... and then you talk about civil rights. i'm offended tbqfh but i'll get over it (IM OVER IT)
anyway on topic, i got nothing against math, don't know much about the guy except he's a hoarder... I can agree he's within his basic human rights to do whatever he wants with his knowledge but i'm not going to bull**** and say HE'S HOARDING GUIZE BUT HEY HE'S CONTRIBUTED SOME STUFF BEFORREEEEE!!!
He could have released his work anonymously if he WANTED to, but he doesn't, maybe he doesn't becuase he's a big advocate of piracy, (something that's been around since the written word), of course he's absolutely free to feel that way.
i think what he wanted was "dat e-cred.." to have proof that he was the first to figure it out blah blah. but that's not as dissapointing as you people are it's unbelieveable how biased you guys are, and every opportunity you get to hate on other peoples opinion ya jump right the **** on it, and not just regular users the mods here are guilty of this as well if not the prime offenders. you wanna call this a damn community? get some people that aren't biased and aren't trying to call someone a pirate or a leech at every damn turn, whoops can't forget the fotm quote " WHAT HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED TO THE SCENE ?!?!?! ". if these sites were for programmers and people who had the knowledge, time, and effort to only you'd have very very low numbers.
let the flaming against me begin, here i'll start it off for ya.
"WHAT HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED TO THE SCENE YOU PIRATING LEECH SCUM? I HOPE YOU GET BANNED."
p.s. i am very aware that math has already "contributed to the scene" (so have a lot of other people) and i'm also aware at the thread on psx-scene of guys playing with the QA flag.
05-18-2011
08:19 AM
More so, what if I DID contribute something? Then what'd someone say to me?
That argument "well what have you contributed" is just an excuse to shut the person up that you're arguing with, in my honest opinion.
I might really just learn basic coding so I can make something up in a few days, then always say that I made that homebrew so I'll have something to combat that lame argument.
05-18-2011
08:27 AM
So would you all rather have math keep his mouth shut?
If you look past the epeen he's releasing information that helps. ANY information can be useful so I welcome it all.
I'd rather have information with a side of attitude than no information at all.
05-18-2011
09:02 AM
this thread sucks its nothing but a buncha guys whining about not getting QA mode to work - and alot of complaining -seriously there are some other places on the internets where people are actively working on this and trying to get something done and they are making some progress. Ive seen a few good points and remarks here but really it hasnt gone anywhere, and hasnt accomplished anything. I encourage people to pick up some reading material on the subject at hand and begin working if you have not started already, as that is what I am doing. Read it, learn it, love it, Be your own Dev.
05-18-2011
11:23 AM
I was reading the story of the PS3 so far, and came up to this part:
Look at the bold part of Mathieulh's quote, doesn't look a bit of hypocrisy with every new xploit he finds and doesn't show how to apply it to our actual consoles?.
He better starts doing what he so much claimed to pdx at that time.
05-18-2011
11:36 AM
I disagree with flaming and out and out insults, but for christs sake, the line has to be drawn somewhere even on here. If a person (including me) acts like a child then he should be put in his place regardless of how much he does or does not contribute to the scene.
Personally I am well and truly balled off with everyone running to his defence. I remember a while back when he threatened to leave and eveyone was begging him to stay (I asked him to as well), but in all honesty, I would rather cancel my membership rather than be forced to bite my tongue whilst his sychophants are allowed to build him pedestal after pedestal.
05-18-2011
12:15 PM
- ugh 30 pages of this -
05-18-2011
12:22 PM
I may be new and have never done anything to my PS3 due to being on 3.60 before I realised this would be a problem. So call me an idiot, but thirty pages of people whining is absolutely rediculous. If you do not like the way someone releases information, get your a** online and research the information to learn to develop. I myself do not have the time nor the inclination to do it for myself, therefore I wait patiently. It has been said that Math needs to grow up, but truth of the matter is that all the whiners need to grow up and either take the time to learn, or just shut the f*** up! Noone that does this owes us anything. They could just make their systems work and never tell a soul! Be thankful for the people that do the work, even if you do not agree with the way they do it. Absolutely rediculous!!!
05-18-2011
12:51 PM
05-18-2011
01:11 PM
05-18-2011
01:11 PM
makes me wonder why is everyone so surprised nobody wants to share?
nobody else wants to do any research or any work but wants releases
such a shame....
lamers should be ashamed of themselves this thread should be locked due to 30 pages of nonsense and *****ing/whining/complaining, If you dont like waiting for something thats bound to happen anyways then read some books(or ebooks) and learn then try and hack it yourself,
hey at least its a learning experience
05-18-2011
01:30 PM
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News - Math can do something new and exciting and no one knows how he does it!!!!
Replies -
A - I hate Math he doesn't share
B - No he's so cool you are a lamer
A - No you are a lamer
B - No you are
A - No YOU
C - Why can't everyone just be happy
A & B - screw you C we are allowed to express ourselves
D - Does this help me play pirated games?
Me - Math threads are troll threads
Mod - Math is beloved everyone stop saying bad things and bans all around
There! Just Sticky that and title it 'every Math thread for all time' and we are done.
05-18-2011
07:01 PM
If anybody has a problem with someone he/she can contact him/her in lots of ways but there is no reason at all to use the PS3hax forum for that. We (most members) like to spend our time better then reading someone's opinion about somebody else...
05-18-2011
07:29 PM
05-18-2011
09:26 PM
Math is either an insider or have a very good contact inside, there is no doubt about that... C'mon, no one wake up one morning and says "
Oh, if I press this fancy button combination and the PS button it gonna turn my PS3 on in a ****ing QA mode!"
I'm not flamming... but c'mon dude, why show if you won't share? How can you call yourself part of the community acting like this?
C'mon, at least say how many buttons should I press, lol =)
05-18-2011
09:43 PM
05-19-2011
02:23 AM
there are two exploits you can use on the bl, one grants you code execution, the other forces the bl to output lv0 metadata
05-19-2011
02:28 AM
The mentality of most people in the scene:
Dev releases hack, end user is thankful, kisses áss etc.
Later Dev has a method but refuses to release, those same áss kissers, now flame and insult that Dev they got so brown lipped over in the first place.
The people complaining are either pirates that want PSN, or idiots that updated when they were told not too, of course there are legitimate people complaining about the attitude of a Dev, but then there are those using the attitude as an excuse to hide what they really want.
It also seems that people are crying and insulting to try and force Devs to release their work, just like a spoiled child would cry and stomp his/her feet to get what they want from a parent.
One last thing, if you don't have any respect for any of the Devs in the scene, then you have no right having a hacked console.
05-19-2011
02:34 AM
I, like others, just had certain feelings to get off our chests. I like what Mathieulh has done, but many times do I find myself in disagreement with his methods.
05-19-2011
02:37 AM
Obviously you are one of the exceptions, you updated, but didn't complain about having no 3.60 CFW.
And its ok having an opinion, but its when it turns into insults, so you are obviously not one of the people im talking about.
05-19-2011
02:39 AM
this thread should just be closed its become nothing more then users arguing nobodies even on topic anymore should just rename it
Do you hate math? if so why or why not?
05-19-2011
03:19 AM
My feelings towards Math are simple.
At 1st he was cool. He had like 30 twitter followers at the time and he was laid back and open(ish). He seemed to spend most his time tweeting to his one time lover, Geohot. As time grew... and his followers doubled and doubled and doubled, he grew from a cool guy that gave us quite a few nice things to an arrogant ****.
Its a natural human thing... get fame, get fans... Get Ego.
Once he started with the "look what I have and you cant have it" bullshiz, I gave up on him. Its FINE to have something everyone wants... but going around bragging about it is just asking for flames and abuse. Math turned into his own worst enemy.
Now the flamers get flamed by the arse lickers... Its ridiculous.
Math did some great things... but his PR skills are no where near as good as his coding/hacking skills.
05-19-2011
03:33 AM
People can who ever the hell they want to, as long as they are not a member of this forum, Mathieulh is a member of this forum, so flaming him is not allowed, i really would love if that would sink into peoples skulls.
05-19-2011
04:14 AM
Greg, why do you even bother.. it just falls on deaf ears. Once this thread has sailed its course a new one will just appear and the cycle will just start again.
Math isn't the problem here, its the sceners who are. What I don't get is why people haven't releised that you can either hate the guy or be a brown-noser.. MATH DOESN'T CARE either way and why the hell should he?
F*cking be grateful for what you have got now! But no its WANT WANT WANT with some people. Well hate to break it to you what you want and what you get are two different things, get used to it.
Math if you you do come here and read these threads do yourself a favour.. keep giving your hints etc but do it in the IRC's and not on twitter where the whiney schoolgirls or the "I want maths Baby" wearing teeshirt mo-fos can read it.
05-19-2011
05:10 AM
I've been asking for ages for more infractions and bans to be handed out.
Can I be a mod if we do? :P
05-19-2011
05:16 AM
people are forgeting why the ps3 was hacked it the 1st place because on linux and runing our own codes . psn was never a reason . 3.55 cfw only came out because it was a better and easy way than using a dongle and advancing to the next level . and greg is rite thats its the pirates that want 3.61 cfw . and ppl that stuipded anuff to go into service mode on 3.56 and above . also ppl maths didnt have to show us anythink of his work . but no he was proper nice and showed us there his work . yeah there some he not giving us but no one can blame , its his life his work he can do what he wants no one can fault him on that . he gave you a option for you to learn and find out your stuff . ppl that came into the scene to late they can even moan about his work if u was a true homebrew supporter and was intrested in running your own stuff you would of been here a long time ago . i been a member of this site and psx since 2009 cos i always been intrested in the homebrew community. ppl just just lay of the devs its there life they do what they want . ppl got 1 easy option to get round this buy another ps3 so u can have psn/3.60+ games and cfw . all i got left to say is they math is great for whats he has done and noone can fault him on his ways of his chossing . if you dont like it u know where u can go
05-19-2011
05:18 AM
05-19-2011
05:28 AM
haha. Sorta serious.
I do feel that we let too much slide for a while on the forums, and people just got used to getting away with stuff.
As for me being a mod... LOL.
I could never see that happening.
If an infraction is to be given, they should be posted along with the exact rule broken. (Quoted from forum rules) + link to forum rules.
after say 3 infractions or something... a temp ban. If then after temp ban they are still breaking rules, perm ban.
This is Pirates site tho, and he runs it the way he likes it.
05-19-2011
05:30 AM
The ps3 was hacked so that hackers could run unsigned code on it. Sure, publicly they claim that it was because other OS was removed and they wished to restore it, but I dont believe that any more than I believe everyone in this and the other PS3 forums use backup managers solely to warehouse their voluminous collections of purchased titles.
05-19-2011
05:36 AM
Infractions shouldn't be publicized in the first place. It's supposed to be private, between YOU and the Moderator who issued it. Nobody should know that you got one besides you and the Moderator.
AND as for being a Moderator. I don't think I'd do a good job, either. I'm not too responsible and I feel like some of the things I'd do to other users would anger many people and I'd soon lose my position. I do think, however, there should be a section on the forum for Moderator applications. I think many users here, like DaveOMac, would make excellent Moderators.
05-19-2011
05:37 AM
05-19-2011
05:44 AM
You know people are ignorant and don't understand things very well, you are one of those people.
05-19-2011
05:52 AM
So, if my opinion differs from yours you have the right to insult me?
No need responding. Im not even surprised by your response. It seems to typify the kind of response one can expect from the moderators on this site.
05-19-2011
06:04 AM
05-19-2011
06:07 AM
Alright, I'm going to sleep.
05-19-2011
06:10 AM
*The above is merely my opinion and according to GregoryRasputin its merely the opinon of an ignoramus anyway*
05-19-2011
06:11 AM
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i was saying that from readin what you wrote it didnt look like it was your opinion . it looked like you was saying it as a true fact
05-19-2011
06:45 AM
05-19-2011
06:55 AM
05-19-2011
07:26 AM
Joking.... I'm joking!
Love you Greg! x
05-19-2011
07:27 AM
This is getting ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!
There will always be people who like his personality and think the sun shines out of his arse, and people who think he is a spoilt child who threatens to take his toys away in a sulk (there is historical proof of that btw).
To anyone who thinks I am a hater or a pathetic little game head waiting for the latest CFW and PSN access please read my posts on here (not just this thread) and you will hopefully see I don't really give a toss
To sum it up.... Some people think he is wonderful and gives what he does freely, whilst some think he acts like a talented child (anyone who says he is not talented is a fool) who gets a buzz out of being Mr Big.
Just close the thread and accept that some people don't actually give a toss about him as an individual and remember the age old saying of "actions speak louder than words".
05-19-2011
07:34 AM
I should just close this thread! but then again some of you angry users will just create another to continue the flame fest!
hossier_d what you did was unacceptable! you don't go around faking logs from scene devs! or should i fake now a 3.60 CFW and give you so you can brick your machine! i think that is pretty funny! we don't tolerate fakers around here! we mods have rules to follow, otherwise you would be banned due to that behaviour!
As for others i already said this countless times! don't like the guy fine, but you do not insult members of our forum! Mathieulh is a registered member here! want to flame him join the flame fest on the 12 year old kids forum where they post fake things... some members here would identify themselves way better with that joke of a website/forum, than with a serious website like ours!
05-19-2011
07:37 AM
Him "leaving" and making his Twitter private are all steps to raise his popularity.
He's a little ***** and I hope he ****'s off for good, but that won't happen unfortunately.
He'll come back with some new bull**** dangling carrot story mark my words.
05-19-2011
07:41 AM
i swear to god this is not worth wasting my time on, this is just a bunch of kids playing "i arrived to the scene yesterday yet i like to bark others around!"
05-19-2011
07:53 AM
You can honestly compare my, "faked log" which is merely a little humor to that of someone releasing a fake .pup onto the scene that could brick a system? You guys cant be for real.
05-19-2011
08:01 AM
Thread closed! if any mod feels this should be open please do i am tired of this thread and some people attitude. this is a flame fest since page one, and its not worth for us mods to waste our time in it!
05-19-2011
10:05 AM
You fake log, was ignorant and rather childish, just keep trolling and you will be removed.
05-19-2011
01:23 PM
Am I the only one thinking it's better to just close this thread, it's leading nowhere and only goes in circles.... Haven't seen anyhting new since page 2 or 3...
05-19-2011
01:24 PM
yeah I closed it... but Pirate felt it should be opened.
05-19-2011
01:39 PM
So anyway about QA (getting back on topic).... will this lead to CFW 3.61??
05-19-2011
02:47 PM
Baby steps DaveOMac. No one knows what the future holds. We need to first find out how Mathieulh did it on 3.55 and under, then we can advance with caution.
05-19-2011
02:53 PM
while you guys were bragging for the button combo sequence, i myself got the code! but sadly im only giving to the more respected members here like Gregory and Pockets69, and others i may have forgotten. so for the rest of you guys complain while me and these guys enjoy with the QA flag
btw p.s. don't stop the drama its really hilarious! xD
05-19-2011
02:54 PM
Well give it to them because most users don't know what to do with it anyways
05-19-2011
04:01 PM
05-19-2011
04:04 PM
Now let the subject go and keep this thread on topic.
05-19-2011
05:15 PM
i wont lie i actually thought it was math and it almost changed my opinion of him :\ sad on my part for falling for one of the oldest tricks in the book -_-
the time it was closed should have gave people time to relax -_-
05-19-2011
05:26 PM
a post that purposely uses someone elses name in a fake log etc or any other false comment should end with a j/k at least so as to show it is a joke.
just my £2 (inflation)
05-19-2011
05:26 PM
Greg or Pockets, did any of you guys investigate the button combo from dswizzy?
05-19-2011
05:32 PM
05-21-2011
09:39 AM
05-21-2011
09:52 AM
05-25-2011
04:34 PM
DSwizzy145 is fuucking lier, read comments on DrEB's Blog !!
05-25-2011
07:04 PM
@must77 how am i a liar of what excatly?! at least i got the balls to actually waste my time getting the stuff while you sit your ass ain't doing crap at all! you know what i actually agree with gregory and the others about how ignorant you people are so now i was thinking of releasing them too but now you've lost your chance. and besides what the hell are you thinking of doing with the qa thing anyways?
05-25-2011
07:23 PM
swizzy never mind! ignore it lets not get into a flame war here! please!
05-25-2011
07:25 PM
05-25-2011
09:35 PM
05-25-2011
10:55 PM
It's pure Logic if Mathieulh or another guy (just a random guy) Releases de CFW, He knows he is gonna being chased by police/swat/interpol/etc. I respect the info that he provides and i respect if he want to keep to himself.
P.d: Plus PSN outage, thinking in release the CFW in the next weeks it's suicidal. Just a point of view.
05-26-2011
07:47 PM
So would it be possible to set the QA flag on 3.60 OFW do a backup of YOUR FLAGGED OFW and release it here?
Show me how and I will release the CFW. Catch me if you can mr big man!
05-27-2011
07:57 AM
^^ it can't be done.
05-28-2011
05:22 PM
Don't rush towards perdition, Better wait. Lay low for a while and see.
"The quieter you become the more you are able to hear" And i think this phrase it's very accurate with the content exposed on this thread.
P.s: I ripped the audio part from his input on the joystick, And added some GAIN to that part. If someone have very good ears maybe u can find something else.
05-29-2011
02:05 AM
05-29-2011
02:10 AM
Math already said that he obtained the button combination by reversing vsh.self. I'd personally like some more info on doing this, as when I tried to convert it from a .self to an .elf using the tools listed, I ran into issues, and would like to pick this file apart. Anyone else who has experience in this area would do well to follow Math's instructions. Doesn't really do us much good until we get the 3.60 keys though. Hopefully someone will make the Dual firmware theory posted earlier work to get us those keys, which will lead to a linux install on 3.60, which will lead to a QA flag/button combo/service mode, which will lead to a downgrade for my second (fat) console
05-29-2011
02:38 AM
correct me if i am wrong but didn't God talk about QA flagging debug units when he released his PSP PS3 PKG Decrypter Extractor? that was back in january lol
Also QA flagging only works on something like FW 1.50 to 3.56
05-29-2011
02:45 AM
Actually, I discovered the no-brainer source of my problem in decrypting vsh.self. Where can I obtain the key files needed for decrypting .self files? I'm lacking the 3.55 key files.
05-29-2011
03:20 AM
http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?title=Keys
Or
http://www.mediafire.com/?2ykgb8jpqduiwwl
05-29-2011
04:45 PM
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How many chances that to downgrade from 3.60, need a mod chip?.
05-29-2011
06:18 PM
Excellent mistawes, thanks!
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k so from what I can gather, actually reversing vsh.self will require some knowledge of assembly code at least. Will this also require downloading the PSL1GHT SDK, converting my extra PS3 to a debug console and downloading debugging software?
05-29-2011
08:23 PM
no, to reverse it you need to know asm, nothing more, ppc asm to precise.
also you can't convert your ps3 to a debug console.
05-30-2011
01:52 AM
K well I'll study up a little on that and see if it's feasible to grasp PPC assembly well enough in a short time and decide whether or not to pursue this. Thanks.
05-30-2011
11:25 PM
well judging by the news on the forums, someone else is already working on this and has the keys, so I'll abandon this venture and pursue something else.
05-31-2011
12:26 AM
the npdrm keys has nothing to do with this! keep working on it, if you still want.
06-02-2011
06:46 AM
Guys i know by him not releasing it it pisses alot of you off .. but if he releases this it would be the end of sony + plus if he is stupid enough to release this he would end up like geohot ! He is not teasing you ... he is just showing it can be done ... if he releases this he will end up like geohot ... nothing will happen to all of you who use this. END OF! Stop whining like *****es !
06-02-2011
11:01 AM
How would it be the end of sony?
06-02-2011
11:13 AM
06-02-2011
06:11 PM
whats the progress on this any ground breaking news i read the 3.60 private keys r impossible to get there more then one keys public keys and private but one the 2 is hard to get or near impossible
06-02-2011
11:21 PM
06-09-2011
09:45 PM
Who cares anymore?? Seriously?? Anyone with an engineering degree and a little determination could figure this out eventually.... Most of us have real jobs, DON'T live with our parents, and can afford to pay for our games. I was intrigued at first but now utterly disappointed with this scene. The CFW that is available now is plenty if all you honestly want is Linux and homebrew. P.S. Quit sweating this guy's nxxts, He may be smart, but most of you have the brains to do this if you REALLY need it.
06-10-2011
01:15 AM
And YES i want to run Linux on my PS3 with 3.60 update, I doing my research and helping others on this QA flag issue.
It's *Wrong* that i want to run Linux on that firmware?, I just do my thing and try to do something, Instead of *****ing about this topic.
I already said it, and most of the users (i probably wrong) maybe think the same about this. The one who put a CFW for 3.60 will be risking A LOT, So it's common sense.
Keep it to yourself and eventually someone will come with a solution.
Or..You can make your solution yourself or it's optional : You can give up about this.
And the last thing, What will happen when 3.55 become obsolete?, You will say that the scene FAILED at you?.
Think about it.
06-10-2011
01:22 AM
Can I ask why you want to run Linux on 3.60? How will you benefit from running Linux on 3.60?
It should run the exact same way as it does on 3.55, unless it's PSN that you're after.
06-10-2011
01:56 AM
initially PS3 systems, Had the option of install another OS. Times changed and Nowadays with this wave of updates Sony *tells you the they DONT want u to run on their console another OS* Everytime you update it's Sony Avoiding the final user to explore more the game system that HE/SHE bought with his/her own money.
Now that the waves of updates passed and now (correct me if im wrong) already on 3.67 optional.
And more games will be come out (final of this year and starting 2012), *They* will have to do magic to patch the incoming releases.
I will use a theory of mine, that 3.55 will be obsolete faster than we tought. And then what?, If actually are some many people creating new threads and asking if is some way to downgrade to 3.55. In months (hope i fail in my calculation) There will be TONS of threads how to downgrade from 3.60/3.61/3.67. And HOW to put homebreaws on them.
It's better to be confortable by the time being *thinking* that 3.55 will be last forever and do nothing about the other updates.
If i can run Linux on my box on 3.55 why bother thinking on the future?.
So long story short, All being posted until now for 3.55 will render useless. So the *Line of tought* is = If i can run Linux (Or anybody else) on this update We *Can* do many things, Including if PSN that im after. And better be a step ahead that a step behind, Getting to comfy it's a bad sign.
P.s: CFW build = Linux, Among other interesting things.
P.s 2: When you buy a brand new computer, They rig maybe come with Windows 7 and maybe you don't like Seven. And you can do a dual boot, Or Just Use Any distro of Linux in your rig. If you use your rig just for some limited things or just for work or gaming. Be on 7, If you want to be more Secure and Learn more. Use a distro.
06-10-2011
02:09 AM
Very interesting answer..
Anyways, as long as a solution comes soon for users like me, I'm a happy camper.
I'm running official firmware 3.61, unfortunately. I used to be on Kmeaw, but I updated for PSN and now I want to go back
06-10-2011
02:23 AM
excuses excuses it can be released anonymously he doesn't have to put his name on it
06-10-2011
02:23 AM
Im on 3.60 for now, If you see the free games offers on PSN and other *captious* offers. (Free games, etc) Don't bother in login/download, For now like i said here in another thread i will not log in on PSN for months. (And if people are against this kind of threat that Sony have towards US the users. Maybe a good move it's just not to use PSN)
DON'T update to 3.67. Just don't do it, for your own sake. For now it's just optional in a future i see that will be imperative.
So lay low, Im on 3.60 (and many more). You 3.61 (and many more too), Something will came up. I have my hopes for what im seeing here and other boards.
06-10-2011
06:51 AM
How can you be traced via a Linux install with a spoofed mac address, connected to a random open (or easily hacked) WiFi network?
That's right, because they want to get the glory for it......this scene is completly LOL
Might as well drop the word "Hax" from the site name....
06-10-2011
01:09 PM
06-10-2011
04:35 PM
Yeah i think the same, too much people that expect some kinda of *miracle* that's don't gonna happen alone.
For me it's just a hobby but when someone is bashing of out the blue (not your case) something that it's usefull for many people...it's just make me mad.
And yeah long story short, I almost have the same age as you but i live in another part of the world (not in Narnia) xD but Far away.
Sorry for the outburst. And a whine when im out of Pepsi Kick, not fan of beer :P.
It's like reading something *serious* on a thread and someone from nowhere asks if a CFW for 3.60 will come out?. One, two times it's ok. Third time...wow it's getting harder to rescue the good info frome the useless one.
Get my point?.
It's called EGO WARS. You proly don't get traced, if u are not too stupid enough like irc logs on the spanish *hackers*.
I LOL al at that it's the basic principle *don't get caught* and *don't mess with money/goverment*.
Ethical procedure, They were reckless.
HAX on the site it's fine, You have a rich database of mods, etc. I don't see any reason to depend most of the time on the SCENE, When searching a little further. You can see how things are doing and contribute to the cause. (No in money terms, Just helping eachother).
06-10-2011
06:29 PM
06-10-2011
08:05 PM
Hellsing- Thanks for the post. I'm hugging you through the laptop right now. No hard feelings.
06-10-2011
09:37 PM
I mean HUGE resources, that even with Spoof/Proxys/Etc. Eventually you will be found.
So the *Scene* and other members, Are posting *Hints* about this topic. For weeks, I asked to Math about the Risks for expose the Hack himself..And the response was a logic one. He don't want to get involved, Even posting hints means a risk.
That's why it's everyone is so quiet about this QA flag info. Slynk is doing all the hard work and posting more info and tutorials about IDA.
06-12-2011
08:29 PM
Actually anonymously releasing something is as simple as taking a laptop you bought at walmart with cash down to a starbucks with open wifi and uploading it using an anonymous user name you also registered on an open wifi...seriously it's that simple. Open wifi means never getting caught as long as that MAC address is not tied to your name.
06-13-2011
04:47 AM
Not being argumentative, just honest.
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I think the main problem for Math, is people raping him for front page news.. Look at what happened when he started posting in the infectus/downgrade thread on PSX-scene, mods/admins thought they could get more views by shining the spotlight on him, but it's just gonna put him off (well, I'd be put off if I was him).
Let him do what needs to be done in PEACE, he can't get away with anything because certain sites want news and they're all just cloning each other, so once any site starts talking about him, they all do, then Sony knows exactly what he's working on or helping us with, by just reading front page news.
Just my 2 cent..
06-13-2011
01:56 PM
I am the only one to blame for a my machine running official firmware, this much is true.. but I don't deserve the effort being put it? I'm not sure I follow.
Just because I had the chance to keep my custom firmware and left it, that means I don't deserve to get it back? I'm confused.
And I'm not sure why you've emphasized 3.60 to 3.61. They're essentially the same firmware.
3.60 = 3.61 = 3.65
They're all the same.
06-13-2011
02:25 PM
06-15-2011
12:02 AM
But im beg to differ in this point, She/He do the update, Stuck on 3.6x, If you are a legit user. And buy Portal 2, The update comes with the game. So IT'S A MUST Go have 3.61/3.70 the upcoming titles.
It's relevant, You can do want you want to do with the product u bought. Unless u sign some paper before buying it.
Maybe if i ***** for being on 3.60 and do nothing about it...Yeah it's a wrong posture. But if no one it's *****ing about it and He/She done the update, Well a solution will eventually come up.
But the policies that $ony uses are failing at fail, The optional it's a future imperative..So. Like i said what u bought = It's yours. Do whatever you want with it.
Respect to Math, I will be totally sincere about this. Yeah you are right they are bashing him for *Not share* most of the info that's he have.
But i DOUBT that posting him in frontpage, Will be a rock on his path.
If he really have the intention to release the WHOLE hack (if he has it) he will do it. If not...Someone else will do it.
He is helping Slynk, And the users (that want to know more about this) on the community about this QA topic.
We do the *Hints* stuff other to the *Hardwork*. Btw it's was you neither me that posted the video on youtube about the QA flag. *If you trow the rock into the water, Deal with the ripples*.
So long story short, Math it's neither a Savior of the Scene or the Death of the Scene it's self.
Someone will gonna release it, I don't think he will do it, Proly Will be a random user.
Think about it.
If YOU want work in peace, why go post a video showing that some crazy buttons combo you can enter to options never seen before?.
Don't do it. Work quietly and no one will be disturb you..
No sense in doing such thing if you don't want to be in frontpage.
06-15-2011
03:43 AM
Let me put it this way.. People work hard and finally open up the PS3 after how many years. Yet within a couple weeks/months of the scene starting, you decide "fuk it, there's nothing worth waiting for, to hell with CFW". That's one thing, but to go looking for a newer FW to be broken because you're now bored of PSN, get real!
My point about 3.60 and 3.61 is that you have tried to permanently block hacks on your PS3, TWICE! - This wasn't accidental, it wasn't under false pretenses, you must have known there's no going back (anybody on any PS3 forum at the time couldn't miss that fact) yet you're still looking for a newer CFW..
Now, do you at least see where I'm coming from..?
I think people who updated have to just get a 2nd PS3 or downgrade the one you have.
I reckon the newer keys that can be dumped, will be eventually, then we've newer games unlocked for older FW (which is all we can expect, there'll never be CFW + PSN again, for any decent amount of time anyway).
@ Hellsing: I appreciate that, I've got Portal 2 sitting here, Dirt 3 and even when all we had was 3.41 I had GT5 sitting there, un-opened waiting for a method to play it. The difference is patience.. My point is, if you want latest games and PSN access, CFW ain't for you. How do we know Annelies (I'm only using you as an example, mate!) isn't gonna update to 3.70 once 3.65 is broken? They've done it before.. Anyway, if a modding enthusiast found out too late about jailbreaking, then they can still downgrade to 3.55 and get everything there is to offer if they have the skill (not even much skill). Whereas the only people wanting a 3.56+ CFW tend to be children who don't understand the situation fully.
FWIW, If Math didn't post that video, nobody would even be aware of that mode/menu. Also, if it was posted by some random nobody, I doubt many people would believe it's legit. Not only did he make us aware of it, he's giving tips on how to enable it.. This is the best possible thing he could do for us! If he just gave us QA mode on a plate, the huge volume of people investigating it, wouldn't have bothered to get involved in the first place and by not getting it straight away, we're digging even deeper into the console. Also, if he did, he'd prolly get sued..
It's better to help people find the answers themselves, rather than do it for them.. Teach a man to fish... and all that jazz!
Just my oppinion, you guys are entitled to yours too!
06-16-2011
04:39 AM
I hate PSN, and don't even play online. In my case (my personal case) I can't afford another ps3 (too expensive on my Country), So all i can say that (in my case again) The update was purely accidental. I was on 3.55 (already bought the HD to run some backups) And i when i see the update was corrupted..I double check and i was on 3.60.
Funny thing was, that i have ONE game legit and when i tried to get online the net was down.
So a started to research on my own with the help of the boards.
So i said..f$@! this, I own a pc i will play online with my rig it's much easier. I see often too much users that have two consoles (ps3) Fat+Slim and they manage to complain about a non existing CWF for 3.60, Well it's ok. It's ok to be pissed And if you done the update KNOWING that you cannot downgrade...Well. What i can say about this?. The choice it's up to the owner of the console. Like i said *You bought it, Do whatever you want with it*
Respect to Mat.. (again) Yeah he showed the QA flag flaw, (Im on this thing on other board) And it's frustrating but nice to talk about it. Yeah he show *us* a path, With the risk of being sued, And in was frontpaged too. I asked him what where the risks of release a whole hack, I wanted honesty from his side. I do not know the guy, Cause the comment he done about this all thing and 0x2c Hint was *How come anyone discovered yet the whole thing..And in the same post what I UNDERSTOOD about it was like, *Man you are ALL n00bs who come you can discover something soooooo easy to be founded, i will release the hack for my self*.
That's the posture that get mad to anyone who read that, He found the QA flag it's ok.
Get the point?.
And some Honesty do not hurt anyone.
Mostly we don't have IDA PRO skills, and i doing my research as the other who want to contribute BUT if you put something that it's not RIGHT. Some users tell you *man you are aiming the wrong way*. Other just said search in Codes, others work silent.
Im ok with just NOT found a download link a tutorial and someone to explain to me HOW things works. I rather learn HOW things reached certain level and HOW happended, I do not begged for a solution or give me the hack!!.
Just asked a question and i had a reply (An honest replay from him).
But too much digging more and more into the console, i don't know if it's Ok, they taken us the right to use linux on our consoles.
If the rumour it's true once discovered the QA flag you can downgrade/upgrade as you please. (What i been read more times than expected). The consecuence will BE terrible. (On the good side of it, and the bad side of it)
So it's cool to have linux back, But have in our power that quantity of options...Really i don't know if is safe.
I don't get tired of say, Mat it's *Safe* cause *they* want to be to be safe. It's a very good resource for $ony as for us, the users.
But when they get tired or had the information they want, Anyone can be charge with false accusations. 2 gone, 1 more to go.
THEY need one on the loose end, that it's having a whole community digging.
He prolly get sued (Like you said), or anyone that follow his steps.