• PSVita Hacks , 10.06.2011

    So we know what the console looks like, but what about the new game cartridge? Screenshots have now surfaced of the new Sony game cartridge and flash cards for the PSVita. The flash cards seem to be different size than the actual SD cards, and we have zero details on the game cartridges – I guess we will find out more details in the coming months.

    The flash cards are (from left to right): 4GB, 8GB, 16GB, and 32GB

    Personally I think Sony should have dropped the cartridge all together and made all game releases via PSN/downloads.

    Thanks to anonymous for news tip.

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  • 42 Comments

    1. Pockets69
      06-10-2011
      11:13 AM
      1

      i see it being hacked really soon! cartidges? what are you thinking sony? remember propriety hardware (like umd) did not prevent your machines from being hacked...

    2. jazneo
      06-10-2011
      11:28 AM
      2

      so sony never learn. they shouldn't add memory and usb port if they don't want there device gettting hack.

    3. reptor
      06-10-2011
      12:00 PM
      3

      Reminds me of the neogeo pocket color cartridges. Bit of a step back in a way.

    4. blasler
      06-10-2011
      12:01 PM
      4

      cooollll free games for all ^^ that is whay love sony , will be a matter of time to psvita get hacked awesomeee
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by reptor View Post
      Reminds me of the neogeo pocket color cartridges. Bit of a step back in a way.
      whay you think that?, on psp everyone play games from sd card and isent step back

    5. Rax909
      06-10-2011
      12:19 PM
      5

      I think it's just down right funny. Making them SD cards just leaves the system WIDE WIDE open for piracy. Which is interesting since Sony is suppose to be super against it. I love it. It's like a nice welcome mat for the pirates.

    6. Annelies
      06-10-2011
      12:21 PM
      6

      Originally Posted by Rax909 View Post
      I think it's just down right funny. Making them SD cards just leaves the system WIDE WIDE open for piracy. Which is interesting since Sony is suppose to be super against it. I love it. It's like a nice welcome mat for the pirates.
      I agree.

      In no time we're going to see something like the R4 for PSVita.

    7. Rax909
      06-10-2011
      12:22 PM
      7

      Let's just hope! :D

    8. Joel
      06-10-2011
      12:24 PM
      8

      I like cartridges for faster loading times and should help with the battery life as well.

    9. bigo93
      06-10-2011
      12:25 PM
      9

      Would love to see this thing hacked as soon at its released. But really, will it be hacked, cos surely we should be expecting cfw 3.61 to be out by now as well, yet no word so far.

    10. LuckySnake
      06-10-2011
      01:23 PM
      10

      The thing about this system is that the games will just be recycled. Hacks are what's gonna drive this system.

    11. gmitesh90
      06-10-2011
      01:28 PM
      11

      well i think its good that they dint do dl only like the psp go cuz not every1 has a incerdibly fast connection and the patience to wait for it to download especially since that sony dont know how to implement downloads efficiently

    12. sonicjam
      06-10-2011
      01:50 PM
      12

      Well i don't know guys because all sony has to do is update the firmware. That will kill the cartridge hacks. Then its back to square one and i personally think that the PSV OS looks like an Android but heavily modified. So its possible we could just root it.

    13. systematic
      06-10-2011
      02:04 PM
      13

      I thought ds would be the final thing on cartridge. So i guess the umd movie market is dead

    14. CrystalWolf
      06-10-2011
      02:18 PM
      14

      Did they go with the cut down RAM in order to compete with the 3DS or the Wii-U, i forget which one. O name wise i like 3DS the best. Easy on the tongue.

      Edit
      facepalm to Sony for getting another console to be hacked with the cartridges. You'd think they would learn by now.

    15. Pockets69
      06-10-2011
      02:37 PM
      15

      To clear the confusion that are not SD cards... anyway saying "uh if we hack it sony will update", lolol of course they will, don't tell me you only realized that now?! i don't know if you noticed but there is no such thing as definitive hack since software update were introduced to gaming machines... anyway, i just hope for homebrew on the machine, if it goes as well as the psp scene, it will be cool, but i am not buying one, at least not from a store, i will get one really cheap, when we get some homebrew goodness.

    16. Yaddayadda
      06-10-2011
      02:38 PM
      16

      Digital distribution is awful; it means that the consumers are deprived of their rights: You can't resell downloaded games, and there is no competition, which means you always pay as much as they decide to charge. Also, no cheap used games. Which is part of the reason why PSP Go failed (the other reasons were the price and the fact that not everyone has highspeed internet). Sony obvioulsy DID learn for once. So be happy that it has a fast form of physical media, and that it's not some slow, easily scratched optical miniature disc with very limited storage space. I certainly am.

    17. jaymz99
      06-10-2011
      02:48 PM
      17

      If they had went to digital delivery only, they would have lost tons of sales. I know I wouldn't have bought one for sure. I want a physical item for my money. This is like MP3 vs CD. Still want the CD. I can make my own MP3's. Doesn't matter what way they go, it will be hacked, so that is a moot point.

    18. SeanP2500
      06-10-2011
      04:29 PM
      18

      eh I wouldnt be so sure that is easy to hack...sure you need some type of memory yes it is an opening...but if security is like past machines there will be key system to be able to run code approved by a hypervisor or something like it...while I def agree hackable I doubt anything within a few months from release...

    19. 2die4
      06-10-2011
      08:00 PM
      19

      nice save alot of battery power also,

      I think Sony doesnt care if it gets hacked as they will most likely be selling it for profit in the first place and with propriety hardware they will make more money from memcards as look at the psp they are churning them out and selling them still even though theirs hardly any dev support left

    20. Death-T
      06-10-2011
      09:43 PM
      20

      I disagree with ditching the cartridges. If they're all download-only then you'll find your storage-space full in no time. I'd rather keep that free for save data, video, music, etc. I don't want my game-collection to be limited by storage. And with physical media you've got the second-hand market, which means the ability to buy for cheap. A digital-only market gives complete control to Sony, and you'll find yourself paying full retail 99% of the time. (with the only other option being piracy) I don't get the whole download-only desire, it's better with cartridges. =/ No doubt there'll be the option to download games via the PS-Store anyway, since the digital market's expanding. At least we're not stuck with loud, bulky, easily breakable UMDs. We're getting more options this way, so I support cartridges 100%

    21. PsPirate
      06-10-2011
      10:14 PM
      21

      Originally Posted by SeanP2500 View Post
      eh I wouldnt be so sure that is easy to hack...sure you need some type of memory yes it is an opening...but if security is like past machines there will be key system to be able to run code approved by a hypervisor or something like it...while I def agree hackable I doubt anything within a few months from release...
      I give it 2 weeks to a month before its hacked. All it takes is one screw up during development, and someone finds the backdoor. If it can be hooked up to a computer, it can be hacked. Just look at the Ds. All it took was for someone to figure out how to make a cartridge that fits in the slot, make it hold a memory card, and all bets are off, you can pretty much do whatever you can imagine with it.

    22. GregoryRasputin
      06-10-2011
      10:27 PM
      22

      Originally Posted by PsPirate View Post
      I give it 2 weeks to a month before its hacked. All it takes is one screw up during development, and someone finds the backdoor. If it can be hooked up to a computer, it can be hacked.

      Yes, because it only took a month for the PS3 to be hacked ...

    23. BobbyBlunt
      06-10-2011
      10:46 PM
      23

      I do see flash carts really soon for this. Also I see unlocks since the 3g model is locked to AT&T. Sad thing is Sony can't do crap about an unlock because as already proven with the Iphone it is legal.

    24. SeanP2500
      06-10-2011
      11:22 PM
      24

      legality in this area is scary especially considering world court situations...precedents can be ignored or new laws passed as well..judges possible opinions on these hacks scares mel..along with politicians...

      people do constantly amaze me someone out there could hack it i am sure with some sort of micrcontroller device and alot of patience i suppose but it would be far from easy in my view...

      the flash memory is proprietary along with the cartridge?

    25. DrWho198
      06-11-2011
      04:32 AM
      25

      As a retro gamer I hate it when games are not sold in physical form. I even hate it when games need to be installed to your console, or when they need updates to run. The thing is, in my point of view one day Sony will not support it's old console anymore, and that day is the day when I still want to own and use the games. I wish to collect the games and how on earth will I be doing that if it does not exist physically? Maybe I could download the games from the internet at that time. But it will never be an original game, even if you get it started in the first place.

      And like it has been stated before, I want to feel my games. And be allowed to do with it what I want. If my console breaks I just want to pop the game in another one and play it. I want to be able to trade games with other people and I don't want to loose it when a stupid company thinks it lived long enough.

      Sometimes I wonder if the big 3 still know what a console used to be and should be. If one of the 3 still knows it then I guess its Nintendo... Go to the store, look at the games... feel the anticipation and buy one. then hurry home... just pop the game into your console and play it! Hassle free gaming, thats what it used to be. These days we are bugged with updates and installs. If people are into that crap then why didn't they buy a PC in the first place.

    26. Wolfie708
      06-11-2011
      05:05 AM
      26

      Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt View Post
      I do see flash carts really soon for this. Also I see unlocks since the 3g model is locked to AT&T. Sad thing is Sony can't do crap about an unlock because as already proven with the Iphone it is legal.
      Sorry mate but it isn't. The rules on breaking the iPhone etc and it's usage once broken were Very specific. It is dependant on the type of item, not just because it uses a phone network.

      Can't remember the exact wording but it is for "wireless telephone handsets", not a games console

    27. SeanP2500
      06-11-2011
      05:36 AM
      27

      good point wolfie708 exactly what i mean laws in this area can be difficult to understand very frustrating considering i feel strongly owner of machine has a right to modify it any way he or she chooses...

      DrWho198 Amen! I feel just like you...when I was a child I begged my mother for Castlevania...At the time game was ultra rare as far as nes carts went in my area I would never see it at stores or rentals and knew about it from a comic book advert I had finally found it in a local electronic store priced for something ridiculous like 89.99 I didnt know any better and neither did my mom My family was very poor at the time and I had to convince her I would accept it as a birthday present and Christmas before she would buy it...As an adult I felt terrible about it looking back once I saw the size of the rom file...But at least I still had the game! While there is a workaround now many a friend has contacted me over issues with 360 drm making xbla useless offline on a new console...it is utter complete crap that just because a file you purchased cannot authenticate itself online is no longer full version...

    28. Lurkhard
      06-11-2011
      11:14 AM
      28

      If it used SDXC and SDHC cards i'm in luck.

      I have a 60Gbxc and 30GbHc from my camera, and i can't use both at the same time.

    29. shippun
      06-11-2011
      01:08 PM
      29

      well its better for us if it does get hacked isnt it? and i dont like the idea of cartridges i liked the little cds from the psp better

    30. Chris9191
      06-11-2011
      01:16 PM
      30

      they should of released a new cartridge not a SD card. like a new cartridge that only the psp can read (and it will not fit in any computer slots)

    31. Pockets69
      06-11-2011
      01:42 PM
      31

      there is people actually thinking that if you can connect it to a PC it can be hacked! LOLOL also people think that it will be hacked in 1 month LOOOOOOOL
      people also do think that those are SD cards or whatever LOOOL

      you guys assume to much.

    32. systematic
      06-11-2011
      01:48 PM
      32

      I assume pockets will hack it in a week & share with everyone.

    33. Pockets69
      06-11-2011
      01:51 PM
      33

      already have, just waiting for the machine to be released! btw better ask the 3.65 downgrade from japsander he has it! XD

    34. systematic
      06-11-2011
      01:58 PM
      34

      yeah but you have the 3.66 cfw

    35. soplox2
      06-11-2011
      02:08 PM
      35

      "Personally I think Sony should have dropped the cartridge all together and made all game releases via PSN/downloads."

      NO! WTF! look what happened to the PSP Go

    36. japsander
      06-11-2011
      06:54 PM
      36

      I like storage cards. They are a"physically purchased" item that sony have no control of whatsoever where I am free to sell/trade/gift/whatever

      I like my games to be real, not virtually owned.

    37. Amendment01
      06-11-2011
      08:50 PM
      37

      Cartridges should be way better on battery life, quiet unlike UMD and they probably could shove a terabyte in there if they wanted to way more than the 1.8gb that UMD held...
      Plus..... They kinda look cool

    38. 2die4
      06-11-2011
      09:59 PM
      38

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      Sorry mate but it isn't. The rules on breaking the iPhone etc and it's usage once broken were Very specific. It is dependant on the type of item, not just because it uses a phone network.

      Can't remember the exact wording but it is for "wireless telephone handsets", not a games console
      maybe thats why sony will not allow phone calls even though its got a 3g sim

    39. Prince Valiant
      06-12-2011
      04:41 PM
      39

      Originally Posted by soplox2 View Post
      "Personally I think Sony should have dropped the cartridge all together and made all game releases via PSN/downloads."

      NO! WTF! look what happened to the PSP Go
      It would be a pretty big finger to people without decent internet, like myself.

    40. shadowcrasher
      06-12-2011
      04:58 PM
      40

      You can't cater to the thieves. I work in a retail store and watch people steal all the time. But when it comes down to it. you can't make your product to unusable because of a few pirates. I think removing portable media would flop the entire device. Look at the Ipad. Yes it's successful but so restricted that many users are looking elsewhere because it has basically no use when it can't get online.

    41. echto
      06-13-2011
      08:05 PM
      41

      Originally Posted by Rax909 View Post
      I think it's just down right funny. Making them SD cards just leaves the system WIDE WIDE open for piracy. Which is interesting since Sony is suppose to be super against it. I love it. It's like a nice welcome mat for the pirates.
      Your an idiot.

      How does it leave a system WIDE WIDE open for piracy?

      Lemme guess... You still live at hom...., oops wrong subject. Oh here we go. Lemme guess... You've overlooked the possibility of keyed hardware and encryption. Just an oversight on your part right? Comments such as yours are ridiculous and an embarrassment to the human race. Ok genius, lets see you be the first to dump one, then lets see you get it running.

    42. systematic
      06-15-2011
      02:35 AM
      42

      edit... i found a pic but it was posted already... so this was a useless post