67 Comments

1. 

   pampos
   09-09-2011
   12:16 PM

   1

   

   Attention

   Yes you are first. The first kid to make an immature post in this thread.

   
   
   

2. 

   big_russ
   09-09-2011
   12:17 PM

   2

   1st to post ya.how much this going to be in the uk.and are thet shiping?.

3. 

   ered90
   09-09-2011
   12:20 PM

   3

   SOLDERING ??
   :|
   That would be a no to me except if it was 30 dollar.
   ah well just have to wait for JFW-DH or CFW 3.66/3.70.
   Hopefully it will be released in oktober :|

4. 

   maxxxpham
   09-09-2011
   12:29 PM

   4

   wait....cfw 3.70

5. 

   art789
   09-09-2011
   12:31 PM

   5

   Originally Posted by ered90 SOLDERING ?? :| That would be a no to me except if it was 30 dollar. ah well just have to wait for JFW-DH or CFW 3.66/3.70. Hopefully it will be released in oktober :|

   hey yea, what ever happend to JFW firmware that they were workin on? isi that still happening? as for the flasher, i dont know if i wanna buy this version or wait for the simpler one, but how long do we have to wait for the stripped down version? also, after downgrading with the e3 flasher can i use the cobra dongle to hack my ps3? or will this complicate things for my ps3?

6. 

   pampos
   09-09-2011
   12:33 PM

   6

   Originally Posted by ered90 SOLDERING ?? :| That would be a no to me except if it was 30 dollar. ah well just have to wait for JFW-DH or CFW 3.66/3.70. Hopefully it will be released in oktober :|

   i think i will wait also for something new like a CFW or something else.(sometime a custom firmware will realized so I'll waiting for it...)im not very good in soldering part and i know is not so difficult like progskeet was but still wait for something easier..

7. 

   Annelies
   09-09-2011
   12:35 PM

   7

   Why does it mention soldering >_>
   
   If I have to solder even one thing then forget it.

8. 

   PITBULL-ELITE
   09-09-2011
   12:36 PM

   8

   Originally Posted by big_russ 1st to post ya.how much this going to be in the uk.and are thet shiping?.

   why not check out there web site and find where is the closest place that will b selling it . maybe france ?
   ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
   

   Originally Posted by art789 hey yea, what ever happend to JFW firmware that they were workin on? isi that still happening? as for the flasher, i dont know if i wanna buy this version or wait for the simpler one, but how long do we have to wait for the stripped down version? also, after downgrading with the e3 flasher can i use the cobra dongle to hack my ps3? or will this complicate things for my ps3?

   the stripped down verssion is the e3 flasher on its own with no sata box etc , its already been made its all depends if they will sell it just the flasher on its own

9. 

   pbanj
   09-09-2011
   12:44 PM

   9

   Originally Posted by Annelies Why does it mention soldering >_> If I have to solder even one thing then forget it.

   
   oh boo who i did find it amusing they had said solderless.
   also learn to solder its a nice skill to have and it will make it so things like this do not hinder you

10. 

    CaptainCPS-X
    09-09-2011
    12:47 PM

    10

    Originally Posted by ered90 SOLDERING ?? :| That would be a no to me except if it was 30 dollar. ah well just have to wait for JFW-DH or CFW 3.66/3.70. Hopefully it will be released in oktober :|

    Soldering skills needed for this are close to none, it has a soft board that after placing in the right place you're ready to go.
    
    When and if JFW is released, many people will be disappointed and most probably will be asking for more.
    
    Btw, are you serious? $30 dollars?...if you knew all the work it is required to make this hardware mod, the time, the research, the money they had to invest, man Im really tired of people disrespecting devs.
    
    I wish everyone working on the PS3 scene stopped doing all their contributions, and see what all these bunch of disrespectful people will do. Its not like the devs have an Obligation to release anything. If they wanted they could just keep their stuff private.
    
    The less we can do at this moment for those good devs out there that share their stuff "in their own different ways", free and not free is to show some respect.
    
    If you cannot pay the price then go work and make some more money, because if you want a Dodge Viper SRT 2011 and you want it for $30,000 you're not gonna get it, unless you steal it.
    
    I believe E3 guys are doing a great job and the price they are offering their work is OK.
    
    For all those crying out there...
    
    1 - FIND A JOB
    2 - GET PAID
    3 - BUY ANYTHING YOU LIKE
    
    Not everything in this life is free, there is a reason for school, college, university, jobs, business.
    
    As a developer I do not consider myself anyone's "Slave" and I believe all the other devs out there are with me on this one. Users DO NOT own Developers. So we are not forced to do anything at all, we do things for passion, some of those things can be distributed for free, but others cannot and unless we are the president of the United States we cannot do all these fancy hardware mods for free and just give em like if this was Christmas.
    
    SeeYa!
    ^^

11. 

    ZOMBIEKILLAH
    09-09-2011
    01:30 PM

    11

    Yeah ,i dont know why people are concerned about this ..This has to be one of the mose easiest sodering .for a noob that i ever seen ?
    I don't really solder much anymore ,but this would be a piece of cake & if i did not have 3 ps3s . I would buy this in a heart beat ! Even if it was $100 + I don't think it will matter if Sony changes the keys. I am sure this can do higher firmwares ,eventually. Just wait it out & see what happens. At least you can play 370 games & have CFW 355 = 1 ps3. I think that is a good deal
    Is this not what people wanted ..?
    
    If Sony change keys & if these guys who made the E3 flasher provided updates for it. I buy no doubt !
    
    Come on guys this talk has been talked about 4ever . Example ,do you think we can ever have a duel boot on the ps3 to boot both OFW & CFW = Now you can = Grow some ba11$ & do yourself the favor ..U just need to take your time & don't rush it ! Patience is your key = Learn something.
    If you cant solder ,test your soldering skills on a broken PC motherboard or a broke receiver , ETC ! This is not that technical & looks pritty sweet how they have designed it ..Real nice piece of work here .No messy spider wires all over the place = Very clean .This as is good as it gets for now & if i had only 1 ps3 , i snatch that $h1t !

12. 

    NutZ1982
    09-09-2011
    02:16 PM

    12

    I was so gonna get this, but the amount of confusion in the written english from these people is incredible - Im not gonna buy anything from someone who cant even type clear english on a international product they are trying to sell!? - and they did point out before that on slims it would be no-solder ... Which its clearly not - softboard or not... Promises broken and it all just seems abit... eeeh - Definetly a nogo for me now :-(

13. 

    ered90
    09-09-2011
    02:40 PM

    13

    Originally Posted by CaptainCPS-X Soldering skills needed for this are close to none, it has a soft board that after placing in the right place you're ready to go. When and if JFW is released, many people will be disappointed and most probably will be asking for more. Btw, are you serious? $30 dollars?...if you knew all the work it is required to make this hardware mod, the time, the research, the money they had to invest, man Im really tired of people disrespecting devs. I wish everyone working on the PS3 scene stopped doing all their contributions, and see what all these bunch of disrespectful people will do. Its not like the devs have an Obligation to release anything. If they wanted they could just keep their stuff private. The less we can do at this moment for those good devs out there that share their stuff "in their own different ways", free and not free is to show some respect. If you cannot pay the price then go work and make some more money, because if you want a Dodge Viper SRT 2011 and you want it for $30,000 you're not gonna get it, unless you steal it. I believe E3 guys are doing a great job and the price they are offering their work is OK. For all those crying out there... 1 - FIND A JOB 2 - GET PAID 3 - BUY ANYTHING YOU LIKE Not everything in this life is free, there is a reason for school, college, university, jobs, business. As a developer I do not consider myself anyone's "Slave" and I believe all the other devs out there are with me on this one. Users DO NOT own Developers. So we are not forced to do anything at all, we do things for passion, some of those things can be distributed for free, but others cannot and unless we are the president of the United States we cannot do all these fancy hardware mods for free and just give em like if this was Christmas. SeeYa! ^^

    I respect the devs and wanted to pay 100 euro's for this.
    Just when they mentioned Soldering i though wtf they first said that they not will require soldering on slim consoles.
    So yea i think it is definitely more worth then 30 dollars .
    But i'm not gonna solder unless the price drops to 30 euro-30 dollars.
    and as they never will do that before someone releases something much better the software way(JFW-DH said that they will maybe add Dual boot software based).
    so just waiting for a 3.70 CFW(everything is crack able and whe are a bit further then whe were before CFW 3.41/3.55)

14. 

    bigo93
    09-09-2011
    02:46 PM

    14

    They say soldering is only required for phat consoles, slim consoles are solderless. And if they sell the dongle only for $55 for those who are on slims then I guess the prices isnt too bad.

15. 

    hamtah
    09-09-2011
    02:54 PM

    15

    Originally Posted by bigo93 They say soldering is only required for phat consoles, slim consoles are solderless. And if they sell the dongle only for $55 for those who are on slims then I guess the prices isnt too bad.

    So if we are not going to solder the slim consoles, then how in the world are we going to install this? Does this not serve as another NOR/NAND? Because if it does, then obviously it will require soldering.
    
    Btw, look at this:
    
    

    Q1: What's the E3 flasher Limited? The E3 Flasher Limited is an universal programmer for all NAND/NOR flash device. It support PS3 slim console better because E3 flasher limited has 16M NOR flash memory , and with soft board to connect SLIM console easier, and also this limited version include 8 accessory like ESATA STATION. Sure it also support NAND flash console&device . Q2: How about installation for fat and slim ps3 console? The limited version need solder 34 wires on NAND FLASH FAT CONSOLE, it need use E3 LINKER. The limited version need solder 50 wires on NOR FLASH FAT CONSOLE,it need use E3 LINKER. The limited version need solder some points on NOR FLASH SLIM CONSOLE, no need any wire. Q3: How many Harddisk we need? What function with E3 Esata Station? As fact, you no need any extra HD because you can take out ps3 internal HD and put into E3 esata station. It will play like internal HD. Every time if you change FW, you will be required fomat and upgrade. So if you want get more function like dual boot and fast switch FW function, you need prepare another HD for another FW, just like you will get 3.7HD for 3.7FW, 3.55HD for 3.55FW, all will be regards as internet HD. With E3 esata station, the internal HD size can be MAX to 2.5T, compatiable 2.5&3.5' HD with MAX to 3G speed , and also works 4GB+ game well ,this means no need USB HD anymore. Q4: If we will get problem with PSN if switch to 3.7? Some guy say there has unique ID inside original PS3 NOR FLASH, so it will get problem if you choose another NOR FLASH memory. We don't think so because you can keep original PS3 NOR FLASH with 3.7OFW, so even you connect to PSN, it will find you are original, change nothing! Sure you can keep 3.55CFW on E3 NOR FLASH. Q5: Do we need any software and PC? No, you no need install any software, no need any PC to operation. You get all function on E3 FLASHER itsself. just press key on E3 FLASHER COVER BOARD and wait few min or few second.. Q6: If PS3 upgrade to new firmware, does E3 FLASHER works again? We can't promise but will do best to work and provide to all free, you shoud trust E3DIY team. Q7: Which version PS3 can downgrade and dual boot? We find all FAT console works , most slim console works even include some new slim console which come with 3.56+ original FW. We find 3000X version console can programme correctly but can't downgrade and dual boot, we will do best to work it out and provide to all free.

    So just looking at the following statement below, slims will still require soldering:
    
    

    Q2: How about installation for fat and slim ps3 console? The limited version need solder 34 wires on NAND FLASH FAT CONSOLE, it need use E3 LINKER. The limited version need solder 50 wires on NOR FLASH FAT CONSOLE,it need use E3 LINKER. The limited version need solder some points on NOR FLASH SLIM CONSOLE, no need any wire.

16. 

    bigo93
    09-09-2011
    03:06 PM

    16

    Well we will just have to wait until someone buys it and sees how to install it properly. The confusion comes from the bad translation job that has been done. If you need it and have the money buy it, if it ends up you do need to solder on slims but you do not have the confidence to do it yourself, you can be sure these things will sell out quickly and so you can sell it on for profit if needs be.
    
    Everything is speculation atm until someone trustworthy can review this thing properly. Until then we can argue all we want.

17. 

    Claart
    09-09-2011
    03:38 PM

    17

    righty ho folks... think i'll have a post on this...
    
    loved/loving idea of getting round 3.7 with this tool,,, was ready to spend on it too just because i'm a downlaod it dave type of person... (15 years without cinema, 15 year + without buying any music , 10 year + for my every day progs & if it goes on disk i spend money to buy blanks)
    ...
    I'm not a clever clogs but will jump on anything that is on disk & if i need & its free,,, just because fifa 12 & cod are soon coming to a store near us.... & i know i have to buy original games to play online...
    
    i think this gadget is as good as its gonna get... me/myself & I are gonna get a second console as $ony are bringing out some update to kill this,,, i have 2tb of hard earned downloads that need keeping safe from them $ony muffa fluckin pirates...
    
    
    so new console & buying latest games to keep me online is the cheaper option for now....2 game = 90gbp & 1 console 180gbp = fluck me 270gbp or say 250gb
    
    AGAINST 1 fully loaded ps3 with 132 playable games with movies & tunes....
    
    
    no brainer....
    
    imma cheap basturd but i always back a winner... & i wanna get online to beat some ******es @ fifa & shoot some ****roaches in MMF,
    
    time to watch BB channel 5......
    
    sorry for a long post ,,, i is stoned & merry & gonna get a online legit console.... it makes sense to have to ...
    
    1 for homebrew & 1 for psn......
    
    21.39 gotta go... missing my show

18. 

    Wolfie708
    09-09-2011
    03:40 PM

    18

    Originally Posted by CaptainCPS-X For all those crying out there... 1 - FIND A JOB....... I am trying. The job market may be wonderful for the occupation YOU have had for the last 26 yrs, for me it is garbage hence my lack of funds and taking work which gives me less than 10% of what I used to get 2 - GET PAID....... Refer to #1 3 - BUY ANYTHING YOU LIKE....... Refer to #1 and #2

    Ok, I agree with most of what you said as my Thanks should point out, but since when was having an opinion on the price of something 'crying'? Also look at MY responses I have put to your 3 statements please and stop your assumption that ALL people who comment on things costing too much for them are wastes of space.

19. 

    blitz7287
    09-09-2011
    03:45 PM

    19

    Ive looked at that pdf and im guessing you just need to solder where the holes are on the softboard in the order it says the put some electrical tape over it and your good to go.
    
    ive never soldered anything more expensive than a small pcb in college but it looks simple enough.

20. 

    DjXtra3st
    09-09-2011
    04:03 PM

    20

    wtf soldering on d slim i thought it was just to put on a clip WTF im only 14 good thing i didnt buy dis yet

21. 

    PITBULL-ELITE
    09-09-2011
    04:23 PM

    21

    i think a lot of people miss read what they said when this first came out about the e3 flasher . they said it is solderless with out wires and guess what its solderless with out wires , so people have jump to the gun and thought it was fully solderless , you should never asume stuff untill you have the facts in front

22. 

    grecomafioso
    09-09-2011
    04:23 PM

    22

    Ehm.... one question:
    
    Whats about the Phat models? Will it be the same or a completely different way?

23. 

    PITBULL-ELITE
    09-09-2011
    04:26 PM

    23

    Originally Posted by grecomafioso Ehm.... one question: Whats about the Phat models? Will it be the same or a completely different way?

    thats soldering with wires

24. 

    CaptainCPS-X
    09-09-2011
    04:43 PM

    24

    Originally Posted by Wolfie708 Ok, I agree with most of what you said as my Thanks should point out, but since when was having an opinion on the price of something 'crying'? Also look at MY responses I have put to your 3 statements please and stop your assumption that ALL people who comment on things costing too much for them are wastes of space.

    I apologize for my statement of "crying", and just to be clear I respect everyone opinion, but when I see people that doesn't value others hard work I just have to express myself (I'm not referring to everyone).
    
    Finally by writing out those 3 things, I just wanted to make a point clear, I was not assuming each individual personal situation, it was more like a general idea.
    
    Again I apologize for any misunderstanding, sorry to anyone who got offended, it was not my intention.
    
    I don't apologize for everything else I said tho' .
    
    SeeYa!
    ^^

25. 

    grecomafioso
    09-09-2011
    04:45 PM

    25

    Originally Posted by PITBULL-ELITE thats soldering with wires

    Will they release a pdf especially for the Phat models?

26. 

    Wolfie708
    09-09-2011
    04:49 PM

    26

    No prob matey bub (that's a term off affection round my way lol). As I said I agree with most of what you said, and if anyone does say it's a con etc, then they are idiots as Any work that is done has value, and the more work and benefit involved the higher the value

27. 

    daveyp187
    09-09-2011
    04:49 PM

    27

    probably:
    
    ten chars

28. 

    WalangAlam
    09-09-2011
    05:54 PM

    28

    told you so its not solderless...when I've seen the flex cable and no clip on the previous e3 thread, definitely it will require soldering. I read also somewhere that this is solderless...
    
    hey you should also sell the flex cable separately.

29. 

    stussy1
    09-09-2011
    07:05 PM

    29

    lol there has to be wingers everytime they hear about money spending
    if you dont like it dont brag and bye it i think this is a bargain i just hope they
    will able to hack future updates if so i will maybe just get one and i am sure
    yo will have no problems with e3 flasher
    and as for jfw custom firmware i cant see it having all the features he is saying dont get me wrong i hope it turns out good but i aint getting my hopes up and as for 1st of oct wich is it 2011 or 2012

30. 

    Drag0n12
    09-09-2011
    08:28 PM

    30

    Unfortunately , this dont work on my Fat ( My Fat Is CECHG-03 ) ...

31. 

    artivision
    09-09-2011
    09:24 PM

    31

    I want to advise this: Someone create a xGB RamKit for ps3!!! Rampus with solder on the back side of the official 256mb Rd-Ram is the first option (I know that some places sell them). DDR2-3 inside a RamDrive and then solder on the second free PCI-express Bus. Then Custom Firmware to identify, or just identify over Linux just for Linux. Don't bother with RSX Driver just use Gallium-LlvmPipe software rasterizer on Cell(6spes=150instructionGflops=1.8streamTflop) or SwiftShader Llvm.

32. 

    Annelies
    09-09-2011
    09:33 PM

    32

    Overall, its really stupid that they lied about it being solderless. *******s. Everyone who does not want to solder should just wait for the ProgSkeet clip coming out and if that ends up requiring soldering too then no homebrew for me until a software method comes out

33. 

    WalangAlam
    09-09-2011
    10:24 PM

    33

    Originally Posted by Annelies Overall, its really stupid that they lied about it being solderless. *******s. Everyone who does not want to solder should just wait for the ProgSkeet clip coming out and if that ends up requiring soldering too then no homebrew for me until a software method comes out

    ya too bad. I was also expecting the solderless since it was mentioned
    it's easy to solder that but you should see how noobs solder, they really messed up pcbs/mobos even with big and easy soldering points this is not for noobs

34. 

    hackoncrack
    09-09-2011
    10:30 PM

    34

    ok guys ive been out of the loop the past week, im having a hard time believeing this...is this for real, you can boot 3.55cfw and switch to 3.70ofw whenever u want, thus eliminating the need for two ps3's??
    
    oh and another article is saying the 3.60 keys have been released??
    
    

    2. NPDRM KEYS (unlisted appldr keys)

    are these the infamous 3.60 decryption keys??
    
    im in disbelief right now

35. 

    leksetengah
    09-09-2011
    10:31 PM

    35

    can i use it as donwgrade device?
    Disassamble e3 flasher after successfull downgrade from 3.70 to 3.55.
    
    i mean buy OFW console which are cheaper and sold as CFW console.
    didn.t need dual boot function.

36. 

    STGMavrick
    09-10-2011
    12:06 AM

    36

    I can't believe that I registered just to tell the complainers to stop. Has society became that lazy and spoiled to complain about an 88 dollar modchip and pattern soldering?
    
    Having owned mod chips for the original playstation, ps2 (DMS 3 & 4), xbox (executor) I just don't fathom the price complaint. All the modchips I've ever owned were in the 60-80 price range. That was years ago. Dollar inflation should have the current chips going for much more.
    
    Furthermore, until the release of the executor solderless, every modchip I've ever installed was atleast 15+ wires.
    
    Stop being so negative. This is a great thing.

37. 

    catalinuxm
    09-10-2011
    12:38 AM

    37

    Cut of the bul**** guys !
    Please have some RESPECT for the hard work here.
    You are not aloud to comment the price, if you are not capable to produce such things.
    It's so simple : BUY IT OR LEAVE IT.
    
    RESPECT.

38. 

    Annelies
    09-10-2011
    12:38 AM

    38

    Originally Posted by STGMavrick I can't believe that I registered just to tell the complainers to stop. Has society became that lazy and spoiled to complain about an 88 dollar modchip and pattern soldering? Having owned mod chips for the original playstation, ps2 (DMS 3 & 4), xbox (executor) I just don't fathom the price complaint. All the modchips I've ever owned were in the 60-80 price range. That was years ago. Dollar inflation should have the current chips going for much more. Furthermore, until the release of the executor solderless, every modchip I've ever installed was atleast 15+ wires. Stop being so negative. This is a great thing.

    Nobody is complaining about the price and I agree this thing is beautiful I agree. I do hate the fact that the devs lied about it. In the end I should just blame myself for trusting things on the Internet. That's all I'm "negative" about. Getting excited for no reason. I hope ProgSkeet is the real deal.

39. 

    carldenning
    09-10-2011
    12:39 AM

    39

    Originally Posted by Annelies Nobody is complaining about the price and I agree this thing is beautiful I agree. I do hate the fact that the devs lied about it. In the end I should just blame myself for trusting things on the Internet. That's all I'm "negative" about. Getting excited for no reason. I hope ProgSkeet is the real deal.

    what did they lie about?

40. 

    Annelies
    09-10-2011
    12:40 AM

    40

    Originally Posted by carldenning what did they lie about?

    Being solderless on slims if I am correct?

41. 

    pbanj
    09-10-2011
    12:42 AM

    41

    the soldering on this is nothing all you have to do is touch the iron to it if you cant handle this then how can you even handle opening the ps3 to put the clip on on

42. 

    carldenning
    09-10-2011
    12:43 AM

    42

    Originally Posted by Annelies Being solderless on slims if I am correct?

    if im correct from the 1st thread about it when the news about the e3 flasher 1st came out . they said it will be solderless with out wires and thats what it is , i think people asumed it would be no solderless at all .
    ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
    

    Originally Posted by pbanj the soldering on this is nothing all you have to do is touch the iron to it if you cant handle this then how can you even handle opening the ps3 to put the clip on on

    very true m8

43. 

    Annelies
    09-10-2011
    12:53 AM

    43

    I do not want to learn how to solder. I do not want to buy a soldering iron so I will not. No matter how easy it is I refuse to solder.
    
    I'll just wait for an easier method to come out. Something entirely solderless or software. I don't care whichever comes first. I can wait. It's not like I'm not used to it or something, lol.
    
    And I've opened my PS3 numerous times. I installed the E-Z Fan mod to my PS3.

44. 

    pbanj
    09-10-2011
    12:57 AM

    44

    a soldering iron is like 6$ and this does not count as learning to solder as there is not much to it. soldering is a good skill to have makes it so you can fix things a lot easier and do other things to your systems and if you were able to open the ps3 then you would be able to do this
    
    also you saying this
    I do not want to learn how to solder. I do not want to buy a soldering iron so I will not. No matter how easy it is I refuse to solder.
    
    makes you sound like a little kid who doesn't want to eat his vegetables even though they are good for him and will help him grow

45. 

    carldenning
    09-10-2011
    12:59 AM

    45

    Originally Posted by Annelies I do not want to learn how to solder. I do not want to buy a soldering iron so I will not. No matter how easy it is I refuse to solder. I'll just wait for an easier method to come out. Something entirely solderless or software. I don't care whichever comes first. I can wait. It's not like I'm not used to it or something, lol. And I've opened my PS3 numerous times. I installed the E-Z Fan mod to my PS3.

    i know how to solder a bit and it does look too hard , only reason im in a rush to get it so i can carry on with bulding my ps3 laptop and want to d grade my slim to do as i dont wanna use my fat cfw fot the job , imagine ps3 slim laptop deul boot ofw/cfw and have linux too with keyboard and touch pad and 3 hdd 1 for ofw 1 cfw/liux and 1 for more space for games cant wait to buy the e3 flasher

46. 

    WalangAlam
    09-10-2011
    01:00 AM

    46

    I was expecting something like this
    
    http://www.360-clip.com/
    
    That's also my definition of solderless. solderless means you will not touch the soldering iron and use soldering lead.
    
    The price is ok with me. Il buy a more expensive one if they can provide a clip too.
    
    My PS3 is on progskeet with 40+ soldered wires so soldering is no prob with me. It will make it faster though with just a clip

47. 

    carldenning
    09-10-2011
    01:01 AM

    47

    Originally Posted by pbanj a soldering iron is like 6$ and this does not count as learning to solder as there is not much to it. soldering is a good skill to have makes it so you can fix things a lot easier and do other things to your systems and if you were able to open the ps3 then you would be able to do this also you saying this I do not want to learn how to solder. I do not want to buy a soldering iron so I will not. No matter how easy it is I refuse to solder. makes you sound like a little kid who doesn't want to eat his vegetables even though they are good for him and will help him grow

    i can understand why he dont want to do it but i cant see any easyer way than this to downgrade or deul boot for a long time , but who knows
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    Originally Posted by WalangAlam I was expecting something like this http://www.360-clip.com/ That's also my definition of solderless. solderless means you will not touch the soldering iron and use soldering lead. The price is ok with me. Il buy a more expensive one if they can provide a clip too. My PS3 is on progskeet with 40+ soldered wires so soldering is no prob with me. It will make it faster though with just a clip

    i think progskeet is making a clip like that .

48. 

    xxxg-01w
    09-10-2011
    01:25 AM

    48

    Where the scheme for fat console?
    
    i hope the E3 team,launch Fat console pdf install guide.

49. 

    WalangAlam
    09-10-2011
    01:26 AM

    49

    Originally Posted by carldenning i think progskeet is making a clip like that .

    Hope so. I don't know why production is taking so long...I'm dying to get a solderless or clip for my progskeet. It will make flashing ps3 MUCH faster and easier. Soldering 40+ wires is tedious I was about to buy that 360 clip but its nand. Mine is nor so meh.

50. 

    alukado
    09-10-2011
    03:35 AM

    50

    was just wondering my ps3 was on 3.55 fw last month untill sony updated my ps3 to 3.60 could i use e3 flasher to downgrade back to 3.55 by updating to 3.70 and then downgrade to 3.55 my ps3 is slim 320gb hard drive so i guess i don't need to solder any wires . Well, I might buy one from slickgate.com, at least I got the ps3 cobra form them , very fast delivery .

51. 

    Mischif93
    09-10-2011
    04:56 AM

    51

    You can upgrade it to 3.70 and then downgrade it to 3.55. There is soldering involved but since you have the slim you don’t have to solder wires, download the guide and you will get a complete understanding on what must be done. Personally i would buy from modchipcentral.com as they fast reliable and one of E3 official distributers.

52. 

    zeron824
    09-10-2011
    08:38 AM

    52

    OMG OMG OMG! This is great! I wold love to buy one RIGHT NOW! Too bad I'm saving up for a PSVITA. BUT! It would be great to have this on my PS3 as long as it would not serve as useless in the near future. Besides, this would be a great bragging rights feature for my fellow people.
    XD
    BTW: So in one hard drive I have 3.55 the other 3.70 right? Then I just switch it to get PSN then click it on that freaking board then I'm on either firmware??? PROFIT!
    PLUS: where is the cheapest place that I can get one? Thanks!

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    sbsbsbs
    09-10-2011
    12:57 PM

    53

    Something is not quite clear to me. Is it possible to make the e3 installation on slim (little soldering and all), downgrade, cfw, and afterwards to remove the e3 flasher from the ps3 (is it possible to "unsolder"?) and to put the hdd back in place and have a cfw ps3? Is there no permanent damege to the ps3 console after the intallation procedure?

54. 

    deank
    09-10-2011
    01:15 PM

    54

    The "permanent damage" would depend on your soldering skills.
    
    Of course you can downgrade to 3.55CFW and remove the soft board, carefully unsoldering it from the mobo.
    
    I can see a lot of entrepreneurs doing it for profit $$$, by ordering one E3 Flasher and providing a downgrade service for (let's say) $40. I guess if one is careful enough, he can re-use the soft-board to downgrade at least 10-15 slims and probably many more.
    
    edit: actually I'm not quite sure if in "CFW" mode the e3 flasher uses the NAND on the soft board. If that is the case, removing the soft board will cause a big problem.
    
    D

55. 

    zeron824
    09-10-2011
    01:16 PM

    55

    Originally Posted by sbsbsbs Something is not quite clear to me. Is it possible to make the e3 installation on slim (little soldering and all), downgrade, cfw, and afterwards to remove the e3 flasher from the ps3 (is it possible to "unsolder"?) and to put the hdd back in place and have a cfw ps3? Is there no permanent damage to the ps3 console after the installation procedure?

    I think you MIGHT be able to unsolder it . I would not try though. If you are looking to downgrade, I might suggest the Cobra USB dongle. I think it has the power to downgrade from 3.70.

56. 

    itskamel
    09-10-2011
    01:23 PM

    56

    Originally Posted by zeron824 I think you MIGHT be able to unsolder it . I would not try though. If you are looking to downgrade, I might suggest the Cobra USB dongle. I think it has the power to downgrade from 3.70.

    the cobra usb dongle cannot downgrade 3.70.

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    Zara
    09-10-2011
    02:09 PM

    57

    So this is no good for those people who have consoles under warranty. That's a shame since I thought it would ACTUALLY solderless on slims. Too bad... I guess a second PS3 for OFW and the new games is the only solution for me. And I'm not too happy about that either, not because of the cost but because of the fact I'll be giving Sony even more money.

58. 

    zeron824
    09-11-2011
    12:06 AM

    58

    Originally Posted by itskamel the cobra usb dongle cannot downgrade 3.70.

    Thanks for clearing that out! :D

59. 

    daflip
    09-11-2011
    03:39 AM

    59

    im still patiently waiting for clip on solderless, flasher, so i could use it as service to downgrade ps3 and make money.. this would help me survive and feed my family... yes im honest.. its not like i would buy it and use it once and then just there.. i would put it to use, just like what i do with wii soft modding and psp hackings this is great yo!

60. 

    ejoypadfred
    09-11-2011
    02:06 PM

    60

    The retail price is $88 (not include shipping cost). but when i search in google.com i find that http://www.utoptoy.com/e3-flasher.html is need $109.90(include shipping cost),if you find lower price you can tell me ,i want to buy one thanks.

61. 

    joelg9106
    09-12-2011
    02:45 AM

    61

    here bro i got this for $94.98 https://acekard.3dcartstores.com/E3-...eak_p_121.html

62. 

    ukcheese
    09-12-2011
    12:15 PM

    62

    solderless ya right lmfao ..i did sthink this was going to be bull crap ages ago

63. 

    alukado
    09-13-2011
    02:38 AM

    63

    Yeah, finally the price dropped. I just ordered the E3 FALSHER from slickgate.com , this where I got my cobra usb and acekard 2i. I will tell you guys how it works when I got it .

64. 

    kerry
    09-14-2011
    04:49 AM

    64

    I want to ask a question about this E3 Flasher (You can view it in this link http://www.oz3ds.com/product.php?id_product=51 ). I have few questions about the E3 flasher.Is it the limited version suit with the 8 accessories?If I order it will I get the limited version suit with the 8 accessories? What are the 8 accessories?

65. 

    alukado
    09-16-2011
    01:42 AM

    65

    Cool info, Anyone ordered the E3 Flasher from slickgate.com? I just ordered one, can't wait to get it.

66. 

    doctorjm84
    09-17-2011
    08:18 PM

    66

    any word on install info on fat consoles?

67. 

    Jitsuryoku
    09-19-2011
    11:29 AM

    67

    It's funny how people cry about the price. As someone said: "It's a bargain". Common the alternatives are:

    • You pay 90-100$ (with postage), get CFW enjoy free games AND games you most likely wouldn't normally be able to run on PS3 with OFW.
    • You can say it's expencive and enjoy 1-5 original games for the same price.
    • You call it expencive and let your PS3 gather dust untill "better times".

    
    
    I mean price efficiency is one thing. But by the time "free" downgrade from 3.70 is released PS7 might come out (yeah sniff'n'play technology ).
    
    At any rate, I wonder if their methods will support upgrading 3.7+ with dual booting.