• Homebrew, PS3 Hacks, PS3 Linux , 06.09.2011

    You remember when Gitbrew asked for donations and said they would release the RSX drivers for the PS3, they later released a few documents with information regarding the RSX, which led to a certain someone starting a conspiracy theory, claiming that “Gitbrew were scamming people” yaddy yaddy ya, which led some of Gitbrews followers to question Gitbrews integrity, people were blinded to the real story, durandal and glevand were working hard on releasing the RSX driver, but durandal was quite ill, problems with gall stones/kidney, which resulted in him being rushed to hospital, but this didn’t stop the uncalled for hate and abuse, anyhow, i will stop with the ranting and give you this awesome news, brought to you exclusively at PS3HaX by our very own daxgr, here is a quote from the offical thread:

    Well I am pleased to announce that RSX Driver for FreeBSD is released. The RSX driver is the product of hard work by durandal and glevand, who gave up many hours to accomplish this. So here you go, the link for the RSX driver: http://git.gitbrew.org/~glevand/ps3/linux/ps3rsx.tar.gz

    On a side note, may I add that contrary to public belief for 5 YEARS, the RSX doesnt not rely on DMA to process graphics, but rather uses PPU instructions to push objects to RSX VRAM. So… yeah another breakthrough by the team who scammed everyone…. Gitbrew.

    PS: To all those who started complaining about this noble effort to enable RSX on OtherOS(/++) , such as “gitbrew is a scam” or “they are just SDK samples”, check out the date of the file.

    Gitbrew was always about developing things for developers AND users alike.
    Sadly, users don’t always appreciate the effort, a simple omission to include the release URL, that was due to durandals medical condition and glevans personal issues, seems to be enough…

    Well keep that in mind, Gitbrew gave their word to release a RSX driver and succeeded; anyone who had cared to browse glevands directory WITHIN 24 HOURS of the donations would have seen it.

    Regards,
    daxgr@Gitbrew

    I will say on behalf of PS3HaX, on behalf of the decent PS3 Scene members and even on behalf of the haters, THANK YOU GITBREW :)

    > Release thread at the read more link, or click here.

    Stay tuned for more exciting updates, right here at PS3Hax!

    Noob FAQ:

    • This will NOT lead to any new CFW or CFW 3.7x
    • This is like the “driver” to the PS3 graphics card
    • Its mainly for DEVS and not the average joe.
    • This is a LINUX RSX DRIVER.
    • If you don’t understand any of the terminology in this post…its probably not for you (unless you are willing to learn).

    Update 2:
    So there is some discussion/confusion about what the actual release is. Various devs around the scene are currently saying the following: The release is for Linux (as clarified already), and not for FreeBSD. Also this isn’t a TRUE driver in essence rather it is a Linux kernal module; the mappings to the RSX.

    In a nutshell, this basically gives you a more enjoyable experience on Linux on the PS3 (graphics wise). We will now be able to use the RSX gpu for graphics insetad of having to emulate from the CPU. This does not mean you can play World of Warcraft or install Windows 7 on your PS3.

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  • 76 Comments

    1. Warning
      09-06-2011
      07:56 AM
      1

      I appreciate and check your git everyday. Love you Gitbrew

    2. Pockets69
      09-06-2011
      08:30 AM
      2

      Well look the scammers keep releasing stuff i wonder why is that??

      You people should be ashamed of even say a bad word about them, you just got ***** slapped, and no these are not samples, have a nice day!

    3. Chris9191
      09-06-2011
      08:32 AM
      3

      i think this is good news?

      never really used other OS (dont find a good use for it)

      but good work

    4. GregoryRasputin
      09-06-2011
      08:45 AM
      4

      You remember when Gitbrew asked for donations and said they would release the RSX drivers for the PS... [Read More]

    5. psik
      09-06-2011
      08:52 AM
      5

      this is awesome news, thanks so much gitbrewww, thanks for all those hours u spent and thanks for releasing the driver publicly. thank you thank you

    6. CaptainCPS-X
      09-06-2011
      09:01 AM
      6

      Great news indeed! Thanks Gitbrew! <3

      Keep up the good work and don't pay attention to the haters, there will always be people who talk trash about the good work of others.

      But more importantly there will be those who will always support you and value all your dedication to the scene.

      SeeYa!
      ^^

    7. Thelostdeathknight
      09-06-2011
      09:02 AM
      7

      nice can't wait for a end-user friendly one to be added to say... red ribbon

    8. PS3Nor
      09-06-2011
      09:11 AM
      8

      Amazing news!! Gitbrew, will this RSX driver speed up linux in general or is it only for freeBSD?

    9. badhabit
      09-06-2011
      09:11 AM
      9

      thanks glevand & durandal for pulling this of ..
      actions always speak louder than words ...

    10. FortyThieves
      09-06-2011
      09:14 AM
      10

      gitbrew is the ****!!!

    11. itskamel
      09-06-2011
      09:21 AM
      11

      thank you much gitbrew.

    12. FreakAlchemist
      09-06-2011
      09:24 AM
      12

      Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh.Thanks a million gitbrew.

    13. Pirate
      09-06-2011
      09:24 AM
      13

      Finally something I have been long waiting for, AWESOME news

    14. alienkid
      09-06-2011
      09:28 AM
      14

      Thanks again Gitbrew!

    15. lightyear
      09-06-2011
      09:33 AM
      15

      hahaha...exclusive That was before you posted it on your homepage. Don't you know once you post something online it's no longer exclusive???

      Thanks, durandal and glevand!!!

    16. Benzonia
      09-06-2011
      09:34 AM
      16

      Originally Posted by daxgr View Post
      ...the RSX doesnt not rely on DMA to process graphics, but rather uses PPU instructions...
      I'm confused. Why the double negative? Typo maybe?

    17. Tokobo
      09-06-2011
      09:40 AM
      17

      Finally!

      So excited! =)

      Thanks to durandal and glevand!

    18. artivision
      09-06-2011
      09:47 AM
      18

      1. Thanks!!!
      2. Something for Linux? BSD and apache licenses are for garbage!!!
      3. Any benchmarks? RSX uses 6spes for graphic processing!
      1spe=8vectorRegisters*3.2ghz=26instructionGflops*12[1vector=128bit="4"simdOps32bit
      *"3"(fmac=3adds_A=a*b+c)]=310streamGflops*6spes=1.85tflops+rsx(200gflops)=2tflops!

    19. cKyOne
      09-06-2011
      09:48 AM
      19

      now this is a ***** slap if i ever saw one!

    20. big_russ
      09-06-2011
      09:56 AM
      20

      iv been hideing under a rock i think. first iv heard gitbruw have been geting slaged off.
      o well good work lad's.

    21. willers
      09-06-2011
      10:08 AM
      21

      This is very good news for Dev's by any chance will this make XBMC more possible for Linux on our PS3's?

    22. schybiorz
      09-06-2011
      10:09 AM
      22

      does anyone know howe to compile it. my redribbon distro isn't capable with the command make. even with the apt-get command i was able to install the missing command make. but i dunno know, how to bind in with my linux distro.

      the other point, that i don't understand, is that the file
      http://git.gitbrew.org/~glevand/ps3/linux/ps3rsx.tar.gz is from 13. july 2011 and only contains the make script within the c-file

      i'm a bit confused. will they be updated on the gitbrew repo?

    23. Tokobo
      09-06-2011
      10:19 AM
      23

      Originally Posted by schybiorz View Post
      does anyone know howe to compile it. my redribbon distro isn't capable with the command make. even with the apt-get command i was able to install the missing command make. but i dunno know, how to bind in with my linux distro.

      the other point, that i don't understand, is that the file
      http://git.gitbrew.org/~glevand/ps3/linux/ps3rsx.tar.gz is from 13. july 2011 and only contains the make script within the c-file

      i'm a bit confused. will they be updated on the gitbrew repo?
      From the looks of it, you have to mount FreeBSD onto the existing installation or something and compile the driver from there.

      It's a driver for FreeBSD, so might probably need to be modified for Red Ribbon.

    24. schybiorz
      09-06-2011
      10:29 AM
      24

      the archive isn't complete i think. i managed to run the makescript, but it gave me several errors, that files / dependecies (folders/files) were missing.

      i hope that is true of gitbrew, that there will be a compplete package, even might with a complete kernelupgrade with included drivers. but for now i stay than on my redribon linux

      but i want to thank for all the hard work you all do.

      greate job. thx

    25. DJ-1
      09-06-2011
      10:37 AM
      25

      WOW, i hope this also leads to devs being able to code their homebrew that runs on Game-OS to be able to take advantage of the RSX in the XMB enviroment ??

    26. daxgr
      09-06-2011
      10:45 AM
      26

      Originally Posted by DJ-1 View Post
      WOW, i hope this also leads to devs being able to code their homebrew that runs on Game-OS to be able to take advantage of the RSX in the XMB enviroment ??
      This is already possible.

    27. VIRGIN KLM
      09-06-2011
      11:13 AM
      27

      Is it just me or I just felt an eartquake on PS3 hacking community?!
      When I saw the tittle I was exactly like:

      (Dramatic chipmunk audio in background)
      WOW this is seriously groundbreaking news!
      I can't deny, I was a little bit dissapointed from Gitbrew and I wasnt hoping for something but I would never call somebody a scam, especially Gitbrew, I mean seriously? Gitbrew a scam?
      I want to see some results from that, could anyone render a full 3D content with it and upload a video?
      Also I know I may sound that I ask much but, could we hope for Ubuntu/Fedora/Debian etc release?
      Also, could somebody try to run Mupen64?...

      Anyway!...
      (Partying)

    28. advocatusdiaboli
      09-06-2011
      11:25 AM
      28

      Thanks alot gitbrew for releasing this!!! This is like X-mas! In a way, I never really used BSD though...

      Originally Posted by daxgr View Post
      Well I am pleased to announce that RSX Driver for FreeBSD is released.
      FreeBSD driver in a linux folder?
      Originally Posted by daxgr;245824[url
      http://git.gitbrew.org/~glevand/ps3/linux/ps3rsx.tar.gz[/url]
      Hmm, confusing.

    29. Purejet
      09-06-2011
      12:02 PM
      29

      Can anyone confirm if it will be possible to run xbmc normally after this driver is released, or is there anything else needed? Will this driver come to the red ribon release?

    30. lunuxx
      09-06-2011
      12:34 PM
      30

      There is a lot of rhetorics and politics in this thread now, please stop it!

      Now how can we compile or port this to linux?
      good question, looks like its freeBSD for the moment
      will need ported to linux, and needs some modules too

    31. xPreatorianx
      09-06-2011
      12:42 PM
      31

      Also is this RSX driver gonna be completed? People do realize you can't use this in it's current form to play say Quake, Doom or something else on OtherOS linux right? If you don't believe me, try it.

      Also I believe this is Linux and not FreeBSD. Look at the includes/headers. So that needs to be corrected as well.

    32. ViperMM
      09-06-2011
      12:46 PM
      32

      So... Nobody has asked this @gitbrew will you fellows plan on porting this to other OOSs maybe linux, plan9, unix etc....???
      Also great job guys.
      Hope to try out that CEXDEX too.
      I have faith that will be released when ready.

    33. xPreatorianx
      09-06-2011
      01:14 PM
      33

      Originally Posted by ViperMM View Post
      So... Nobody has asked this @gitbrew will you fellows plan on porting this to other OOSs maybe linux, plan9, unix etc....???
      Also great job guys.
      Hope to try out that CEXDEX too.
      I have faith that will be released when ready.
      CEXDEX has been ready for ages. It's not gonna be released gitbrew or any of the head honchos. Possibly rebug. But no one else.

      Likewise this is for Linux I believe. At least that's what the headers/includes lead me to believe. I believe gitbrew made a mistake. Likewise this won't run 3D hardware accelerated or even 2D hardware accelerated games/graphics in it's current form.

    34. bigo93
      09-06-2011
      01:21 PM
      34

      Wow, cant wait to see what comes from this now! Very well to Gitbrew, now lock your doors the sony raiders are coming! :O

    35. xPreatorianx
      09-06-2011
      02:15 PM
      35

      Also I guess Gitbrew won't comment on exactly what you can do with this? I would like to know what you can do with this as in it's current form it seems to be mostly useless to anyone but developers who decide to expand upon it. As end users can't use this at all in it's current state. At least for the intended purpose of a graphics chip driver, which is to run 3D hardware accelerated Graphics and/or play games. you can't even test this using simple geometry AFAIK.

      thanks for the release, but it is useless until someone picks it up and expands upon it.

    36. bigo93
      09-06-2011
      02:44 PM
      36

      It's access to the graphics chip. I'm hoping this allows PS2 BC on all consoles via a linux emulator. Yes of course us users cannot do a thing with this, but the scene devs can and will, we just now have to wait to see what types of features they can give us.

    37. Zara
      09-06-2011
      02:58 PM
      37

      I don't understand the hype if it means nothing to an average user, seriously. We're not all rocket scientists or Linux fanboys (or something else, whatever) and even though I understand how somebody can masturbate to fancy words like "kernel", "core", "compile", "root" and stuff like that, it means absolutely nothing to an average user. Just like this thing and yet everybody's joining in on this massive orgasm like this is the best thing since electricity.

      Although I've never used Linux (and probably never will, I sure don't plan to install it "just because I can"), hats down to Gitbrew. I guess any progress is worthy of recognition and I hope something useful comes from this (for us "ordinary people", I mean).

    38. VIRGIN KLM
      09-06-2011
      03:01 PM
      38

      Originally Posted by bigo93 View Post
      It's access to the graphics chip. I'm hoping this allows PS2 BC on all consoles via a linux emulator. Yes of course us users cannot do a thing with this, but the scene devs can and will, we just now have to wait to see what types of features they can give us.
      No this wont ever happen in Linux with or without RSX drivers due to RAM limmitations. Anything outside GameOS is out of the question, the only case this would happen is on the thread I did recently with an investigation about the native full software emu.
      Now back to topic I wanted to ask if anyone had success building it and can confirm that it works and in what way?
      Also I think it's about time that people that post stuff like ''if this isnt a xxxCFW then who cares?''and all those annoying msgs (some of them in giberish too) should get instantly get warned or banned. Day by day it gets worse... I mean seriously...! XD

    39. lightyear
      09-06-2011
      03:04 PM
      39

      Originally Posted by Zara View Post
      I don't understand the hype if it means nothing to an average user, seriously. We're not all rocket scientists or Linux fanboys (or something else, whatever) and even though I understand how somebody can masturbate to fancy words like "kernel", "core", "compile", "root" and stuff like that, it means absolutely nothing to an average user. Just like this thing and yet everybody's joining in on this massive orgasm like this is the best thing since electricity.

      Although I've never used Linux (and probably never will, I sure don't plan to install it "just because I can"), hats down to Gitbrew. I guess any progress is worthy of recognition and I hope something useful comes from this (for us "ordinary people", I mean).
      that's because the thread's title is misleading...I makes you think that you can just grab a freeBSD live CD, install it, install the rsx drivers, and be off to the races.

      The title needs to be edited for two reasons:
      1. it's misleading as hell!!!
      2. this wasn't an exclusive for more than 5 minutes. you really think no one mirrored it to post on other sites? lol

    40. advocatusdiaboli
      09-06-2011
      03:20 PM
      40

      Originally Posted by lunuxx View Post
      good question, looks like its freeBSD for the moment
      will need ported to linux, and needs some modules too
      Which modules?

    41. FirebirdTA01
      09-06-2011
      03:29 PM
      41

      I know I'm a little late with this but congrats gitbrew and great work, I never doubted you (and honestly didnt know anyone else did either [must of been under a rock for that one]). Anyway, a whole lot of people, including myself, have been waiting very anxiously for this (for many years I might add) so people should be very happy and proud of this release. As for the haters... as pockets said quite a few posts before mine,... you should be ashamed of yourselves.

    42. ryukster
      09-06-2011
      03:59 PM
      42

      Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM View Post
      No this wont ever happen in Linux with or without RSX drivers due to RAM limmitations. Anything outside GameOS is out of the question, the only case this would happen is on the thread I did recently with an investigation about the native full software emu.
      Now back to topic I wanted to ask if anyone had success building it and can confirm that it works and in what way?
      Also I think it's about time that people that post stuff like ''if this isnt a xxxCFW then who cares?''and all those annoying msgs (some of them in giberish too) should get instantly get warned or banned. Day by day it gets worse... I mean seriously...! XD
      From what I understand, the only reason emulation software that required high-end machines wasn't possible because OtherOS wasn't capable of accessing the rsx at the time. What I have come to realize is the the rsx is what issues the RAM limitations, what allows graphics on GameOS. Based on this deduction, high-end emulation should be possible, now that there is access to the rsx. If this is true, then programs like pcsx2 and games that require high-end machines like Crysis should be able to run on otheros, as well as operating systems that were restricted due to rsx/ram-limitations like windows.

    43. OoZic
      09-06-2011
      04:18 PM
      43

      Originally Posted by ryukster View Post
      From what I understand, the only reason emulation software that required high-end machines wasn't possible because OtherOS wasn't capable of accessing the rsx at the time. What I have come to realize is the the rsx is what issues the RAM limitations, what allows graphics on GameOS. Based on this deduction, high-end emulation should be possible, now that there is access to the rsx. If this is true, then programs like pcsx2 and games that require high-end machines like Crysis should be able to run on otheros, as well as operating systems that were restricted due to rsx/ram-limitations like windows.
      This explains the RSX in combination with Rambus XDR memory:
      http://hack5.blogspot.com/2008/07/ex...m-and-rsx.html

      The PS3 has two times as much cache at 2x the speed, making it way faster for direct/indirect mapping. Not only that but it has 512k of L1 cache + 1.7m of L2 cache for the 7 spes. The PS3’s GPU, RSX was made to work with the Cell processor, it is not some GPU they took and slotted in. It is made to be compatible with the Cell.

      More RAM does not mean a faster system it means more data can be stored in a fast access area. Games don't always need 512mb of RAM.

    44. Superb
      09-06-2011
      05:20 PM
      44

      Thankyou Gitbrew

    45. VIRGIN KLM
      09-06-2011
      05:26 PM
      45

      Originally Posted by ryukster View Post
      From what I understand, the only reason emulation software that required high-end machines wasn't possible because OtherOS wasn't capable of accessing the rsx at the time. What I have come to realize is the the rsx is what issues the RAM limitations, what allows graphics on GameOS. Based on this deduction, high-end emulation should be possible, now that there is access to the rsx. If this is true, then programs like pcsx2 and games that require high-end machines like Crysis should be able to run on otheros, as well as operating systems that were restricted due to rsx/ram-limitations like windows.
      No that's wrong. This is for emulators that the Cell wasn't enough to emulate them at a playable speed, let's say mupen64. PCSX2/PS2 needs faaar more than RSX access. It needs resources, and fast ones. A PS3 have like 60%+ of it's resources already preserved by the operating system (Linux in this case) so it doesn't leave enough resources for PCSX2 that the first thing it does as an architecture is preserving a specific amount of resources to guarantee it's stability. This was an issue that Sony came with a very rough idea how to fix it. How? Reset the whole RAM and isolate everything else as much as possible so the PS3 would be still operative and save up resources vital for the PS3 to emulate PS2. It's like let's say a whole OS dedicated to this function. Hmmm now here's an idea. We could gain performance of the native full software emulator by enabling the unused 8th SPE inside the Cell and find a way to terminate as much as possible stuff we dont need running in the background while the PS3 is still operative, like let's say the sprx of networking. Now tell me, how can you do this on Linux?

    46. Pirate
      09-06-2011
      07:32 PM
      46

      I don't know what inspired everyone to completely hijack this thread with CFW discussion, but all off topics posts and CFW posts have been moved here.

      Please keep the rest of the discussion strictly related to the news post and try to understand it rather than "moanin' and cryin.'"

      This is mainly for devs, if you don't understand it then instead of waving it as useless try to understand it first. It's people like you who are causing the scene to drag so slowly the way it is.

      Any off topic posts from this thread will be moved to designated thread above and infraction will be given...stay on topic.

    47. erexx
      09-06-2011
      07:37 PM
      47

      This is about the sexiest news for the PS3 in YEARS.
      A huge milestone.
      Probably one of the best things that could ever happen for it.

    48. ryukster
      09-06-2011
      08:15 PM
      48

      Back, and from what I understand, it's the rsx that handles all the amazing video game graphics behind the processing power of the ps3. Now, If that's true, then that means it should be capable of running video games of the same caliber on OtherOS. If I'm not mistaken, what kept windows off of the ps3 so long is the lack of access to what makes the system so powerful.

    49. xPreatorianx
      09-06-2011
      09:27 PM
      49

      Originally Posted by ryukster View Post
      Back, and from what I understand, it's the rsx that handles all the amazing video game graphics behind the processing power of the ps3. Now, If that's true, then that means it should be capable of running video games of the same caliber on OtherOS. If I'm not mistaken, what kept windows off of the ps3 so long is the lack of access to what makes the system so powerful.
      How would it run the same caliber games through OtherOS? Your joking right? For one, on GAMEOS the game takes full control of the system. Meaning the resources of the system aren't wasted on anything else. On OtherOS you would have the OS your running PLUS the game code on top of it. Just like on Windows. I don't know if you notice this, but clearly you don't so I'll inform you, the PS3 doesn't have enough power to run OS+ game. It just doesn't. Or do you think 256MB of ram will give you enough room for a full or even partial OS PLUS a high end game? I hope to god your joking.

      That's along the same lines as the comment of people running Crysis on OtherOS. - ROFLMAO on that one.

      About Windows - Actually no it isn't running on the PS3 because Windows isn't PPC. Do any of you have even the most basic of knowledge of how an operating system, let alone the PS3 or any other machine works? Windows is X86_64. the PS3 is PPC. BIG DIFFERENCE. The only Windows that will run is Windows 95. But that's because it's run through DOSBOX. Which is emulation. - That won't happen with Windows XP, Vista, or 7.

      Originally Posted by erexx View Post
      This is about the sexiest news for the PS3 in YEARS.
      A huge milestone.
      Probably one of the best things that could ever happen for it.
      This is not a huge milestone by a long mile. Maybe if the driver was complete, ya. But not in it's current form.

      If you want a big milestone you want something like 3.55 CFW. When we were all used to 3.41 and dongles. This pales in comparison to that.

    50. seakash
      09-06-2011
      10:28 PM
      50

      This IS a milestone.

    51. ryukster
      09-06-2011
      10:39 PM
      51

      The ps3 is a powerful machine, when it comes to performance, besides ram, if access to the rsx allows what I think it does, which is unlocking the full capabilities of the machine, and if what you say about the archetype is true, then virtual box or some other operating system emulator wouldn't be to far off of an idea. If the ps3 can run a game as visually demanding as, say killzone 2 for example, then I'm sure it can handle windows 7 on emulation, which doesn't hog as much resources as it's predecessors. As for running an emulator, it should be possible, looking the system's specifications. The ps3 has 512mb of ram, split in half, a part for the rsx, and a part for the use of between the rsx and the cell.

    52. Thelostdeathknight
      09-06-2011
      10:56 PM
      52

      Originally Posted by ryukster View Post
      The ps3 is a powerful machine, when it comes to performance, besides ram, if access to the rsx allows what I think it does, which is unlocking the full capabilities of the machine, and if what you say about the archetype is true, then virtual box or some other operating system emulator wouldn't be to far off of an idea. If the ps3 can run a game as visually demanding as, say killzone 3 for example, then I'm sure it can handle windows 7 on emulation, which doesn't hog as much resources as it's predecessors. As for running an emulator, it should be possible, looking the system's specifications. The ps3 has 512mb of ram, split in half, a part for the rsx, and a part for the use of between the rsx and the cell.
      a stripped down version of windows 7 still takes roughly 700+mb of ram, XP around 500ish. even if you could manage to get them to run there would be no extra resources for anything else. that not even taking into account how much gpu ram would be need for the OSes to look or run anything half decent. plus emulation would make it run like it was stuck in the mud

    53. Dev-Dave
      09-06-2011
      11:20 PM
      53

      If you wish to run things in a box then look at java app and op's like the stuff that runs on phones, or run a linux in a box and use remote connection, as my friend said it will not run, for all the reason he said and not only that it a FreeBSD base os, so no true drives for a windows install, now if I understand this right its just another needed peace of the puzzle needed for the ability to use the rsx in a linux install, or linux in a box, not to play the the games we play from the game os side, in linux, some wicked emulators with better graphics mind.

    54. ViperMM
      09-06-2011
      11:26 PM
      54

      Originally Posted by Thelostdeathknight View Post
      how much gpu ram would be need for the OSes to look or run anything half decent. plus emulation would make it run like it was stuck in the mud
      TLDK is right hardware wise the gpu ram is extremely fast but it's dumb to load an entire windows install. If there were a PPC port of wine that's as close as the PS3 would get. And since wine is only an implementation of the win32 api.... good luck or port it.


      C4PT ARE YOU OUT THERE?

      Anyways... Who has this working as of now? I know absolutely nothing about BSD and am curious what it will and won't do.
      EDIT: Wow, 5 pages of people spamming gone thank you Moderators.

    55. lviv73
      09-06-2011
      11:38 PM
      55

      Originally Posted by ryukster View Post
      The ps3 is a powerful machine, when it comes to performance, besides ram, if access to the rsx allows what I think it does, which is unlocking the full capabilities of the machine, and if what you say about the archetype is true, then virtual box or some other operating system emulator wouldn't be to far off of an idea. If the ps3 can run a game as visually demanding as, say killzone 3 for example, then I'm sure it can handle windows 7 on emulation, which doesn't hog as much resources as it's predecessors. As for running an emulator, it should be possible, looking the system's specifications. The ps3 has 512mb of ram, split in half, a part for the rsx, and a part for the use of between the rsx and the cell.
      Im gonna keep saying this until someone gives me a good answer,why nobody is talking about OSX TIGER or MorphOS on PS3?

      Fck windows,Windows is X86 and OSX Tiger is PPC just like PS3 and 256mb ram and 256mb vram is more than enough to run Tiger better than it does on real mac.

      OSX 10.4 is PPC,PS3 is PPC.And from what i read PS3's cell cpu is similar to G4 and G5 macs,now why is there no discussion about porting Tiger?
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by ViperMM View Post
      TLDK is right hardware wise the gpu ram is extremely fast but it's dumb to load an entire windows install. If there were a PPC port of wine that's as close as the PS3 would get. And since wine is only an implementation of the win32 api.... good luck or port it.


      C4PT ARE YOU OUT THERE?

      Anyways... Who has this working as of now? I know absolutely nothing about BSD and am curious what it will and won't do.
      EDIT: Wow, 5 pages of people spamming gone thank you Moderators.
      Why emulate x86 if we can run osx natively?

    56. Thelostdeathknight
      09-06-2011
      11:52 PM
      56

      Originally Posted by lviv73 View Post
      why is there no discussion about porting Tiger
      Because those who can have no interest in it. that's my 2 cents

    57. Dev-Dave
      09-07-2011
      12:02 AM
      57

      Originally Posted by lviv73 View Post
      Im gonna keep saying this until someone gives me a good answer,why nobody is talking about OSX TIGER or MorphOS on PS3?
      why would we? when theres fare better linux 64bit distros. and everything is Linux.

    58. Pirate
      09-07-2011
      12:16 AM
      58

      First post updated

    59. modrobert
      09-07-2011
      12:20 AM
      59

      daxgr,

      I'm a bit curious about the file dates in the tarball; 2011-07-14

      Care to comment?

      EDIT: Never mind, think I figured it out now after reading the first post again.

    60. ryukster
      09-07-2011
      12:54 AM
      60

      The idea for windows is just that, an idea. Anything to test out the full potential of the rsx on OtherOS. Tiger sounds plausible, based of what I've come to deduct, but the real question lays, even if someone manages to successfully boot tiger or windows; is the ps3 still powerful enough or will it retain enough resources for pc-gaming capabilities. My laptop has enough ram, but isn't capable enough to run very demanding games, without a some lag, because of it's graphics card. It's not a gaming machine, like most aliens. Now the ps3 is a gaming machine, and based on the info stemming from it's launch, OtherOS was suppose to make it an all-around-machine, making it both for gaming and to be used as home computer. But, Sony did put limitations before it's removal, that made using OtherOS for conventional means, like gaming, impossible, by blocking full access to what makes the system so powerful, the cell and rsx, making it unsuitable to play video games on another operating system. Because of this decision, Sony suggested an OS that wasn't so demanding, aiming users towards YLD. It's implementation was made for trivial, simple tasks like checking email and the weather. To this end, Sony's decision to include OtherOS, without making it suitable for more conventional means, redundant. This justified it's removal. It doesn't mean that it's only limited to linux, it just means that it was suitable for the cause Sony was imploring. This limitation was put in place to keep the end-user from abusing the feature. Although, now that rsx has been made accessible, this should pave the way for more sophisticated content via OtherOS. In example; a non-demanding operating system such as windows 7 running software like, say, pcsx2.

    61. mydarkpunk
      09-07-2011
      01:55 AM
      61

      the scene is getting interesting

      sony hate gitbrew i think xD

    62. advocatusdiaboli
      09-07-2011
      02:53 AM
      62

      Originally Posted by lviv73 View Post
      now why is there no discussion about porting Tiger?
      Probably only netkas is able to... but does s/he feel like it?

    63. lviv73
      09-07-2011
      03:45 AM
      63

      Originally Posted by advocatusdiaboli View Post
      Probably only netkas is able to... but does s/he feel like it?
      I will donate $200 to whoever gets Tiger on PS3.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by ryukster View Post
      The idea for windows is just that, an idea. Anything to test out the full potential of the rsx on OtherOS. Tiger sounds plausible, based of what I've come to deduct, but the real question lays, even if someone manages to successfully boot tiger or windows; is the ps3 still powerful enough or will it retain enough resources for pc-gaming capabilities. My laptop has enough ram, but isn't capable enough to run very demanding games, without a some lag, because of it's graphics card. It's not a gaming machine, like most aliens. Now the ps3 is a gaming machine, and based on the info stemming from it's launch, OtherOS was suppose to make it an all-around-machine, making it both for gaming and to be used as home computer. But, Sony did put limitations before it's removal, that made using OtherOS for conventional means, like gaming, impossible, by blocking full access to what makes the system so powerful, the cell and rsx, making it unsuitable to play video games on another operating system. Because of this decision, Sony suggested an OS that wasn't so demanding, aiming users towards YLD. It's implementation was made for trivial, simple tasks like checking email and the weather. To this end, Sony's decision to include OtherOS, without making it suitable for more conventional means, redundant. This justified it's removal. It doesn't mean that it's only limited to linux, it just means that it was suitable for the cause Sony was imploring. This limitation was put in place to keep the end-user from abusing the feature. Although, now that rsx has been made accessible, this should pave the way for more sophisticated content via OtherOS. In example; a non-demanding operating system such as windows 7 running software like, say, pcsx2.
      Man,youre missing the point.PS3 will never be able to play any modern games with linux/osx/windows,at best it will be able to play games like first Halo-which ran ok on my g3 mac with 380mb ram and only 16mb vram.PS2 and Xbox type games should run on full settings but if you wanna play Deus Ex HR on osx/linux port that will never happen.

      The reason many people would love osx/windows on ps3 is to use it for multimedia/bittorents/p2p/internet browsing.And linux is not for everyone,

    64. OoZic
      09-07-2011
      03:58 AM
      64

      Originally Posted by lviv73 View Post
      Im gonna keep saying this until someone gives me a good answer,why nobody is talking about OSX TIGER or MorphOS on PS3?

      Fck windows,Windows is X86 and OSX Tiger is PPC just like PS3 and 256mb ram and 256mb vram is more than enough to run Tiger better than it does on real mac.

      OSX 10.4 is PPC,PS3 is PPC.And from what i read PS3's cell cpu is similar to G4 and G5 macs,now why is there no discussion about porting Tiger?
      There are no nvidia drivers for MorphOS.

      There is a PPC windows NT version.

      Who needs Apple? Amiga OS4 is way more interesting
      I think we need another bootloader like bootX or Open Bootloader to start Darwin. But the big problem will be drivers. Apple drivers are only for specific hardware found in the Mac. Linux has far better compatibility. Mac OS is also a commercial product meaning it has several kind of protections.

    65. ViperMM
      09-07-2011
      04:00 AM
      65

      Originally Posted by ryukster View Post
      The idea for windows is just that, an idea. Anything to test out the full potential of the rsx on OtherOS.
      I don't disagree interesting things will be possible with this. TLDK's argument isn't exactly valid about the size because the speed is ramped way up so data will spend less time there and get processed nice and quick. Windows is a waste on your PC, why run it on your PS3? Windows 98 will run in a virtual machine but to run a bigger OS is harder because you will need first of all software and second some kind of fancy pants disk swapping. If wine were to be ported I bet you'd stfu and just play your World of Warcraft, or whatever it is you young people play these days. I am seriously just wanting open arena which is already in a repo (ubuntu???) somewhere. It will run once 3d acceleration is up. PCSX2 is just a bonus since I have a B/C model.
      EDIT:MacOSX <--/me pukes in a hat and places it back on the hat rack
      And yes it will play modern games but not in a sense most of the community will appreciate. LINUX OPEN SOURCE. SPECIALTY LINUX AT THAT.

    66. lviv73
      09-07-2011
      04:02 AM
      66

      Originally Posted by Dev-Dave View Post
      why would we? when theres fare better linux 64bit distros. and everything is Linux.
      Linux is not for everyone,i wanna copy a file to hd/partition without having to mount/set permissions and other terminal bs first.

      OSX/Windows just works(most of the time,lol) and thats what most people want.

      I just wanna boot the os and download and watch movies/emulators and customize how sht looks.I dont wanna learn bunch of terminal commands just to copy one file.
      Linux is not bad if you can have someone set it up right-and most people dont know how or dont have time or will to learn.

    67. ViperMM
      09-07-2011
      04:04 AM
      67

      Originally Posted by lviv73 View Post
      Linux is not for everyone,i wanna copy a file to hd/partition without having to mount/set permissions and other terminal bs first.

      OSX/Windows just works(most of the time,lol) and thats what most people want.

      I just wanna boot the os and download and watch movies/emulators and customize how sht looks.I dont wanna learn bunch of terminal commands just to copy one file.
      Linux is not bad if you can have someone set it up right-and most people dont know how or dont have time or will to learn.
      Then just use a PC.

    68. lviv73
      09-07-2011
      04:05 AM
      68

      Originally Posted by OoZic View Post
      There are no nvidia drivers for MorphOS.

      There is a PPC windows NT version.

      Who needs Apple? Amiga OS4 is way more interesting
      I think we need another bootloader like bootX or Open Bootloader to start Darwin. But the big problem will be drivers. Apple drivers are only for specific hardware found in the Mac. Linux has far better compatibility. Mac OS is also a commercial product meaning it has several kind of protections.
      Amiga on ps3 sounds good too.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by ViperMM View Post
      Then just use a PC.
      Good point but osx on ps3 will make a nice and cheap mac-a luxury not too many people have.

    69. thamps
      09-07-2011
      07:55 AM
      69

      Bringing back a Linux Distro to the picture.

      How well will XBMC fare now with these available RSX Drivers? Will some of the high end themes work smoothly? Will 1080p movie playback go smoothly?

    70. schybiorz
      09-07-2011
      01:41 PM
      70

      does anyone managed to get freebsd run in graphical mode on ps3? the drivers for rsx i think are for freebsd. the liveiso i found on web only gives me an terminal login.

      read something about only netbooting. is there a userfriendly manual how to install freebsd with gnome desktop? also via pn or mail.

      thx for support and help

    71. Hamdan
      09-07-2011
      03:18 PM
      71

      Finally Its worth having linux
      I can finally run dolphin on ps3
      Now all I need is a tutorial to set everything up

    72. Zara
      09-07-2011
      03:56 PM
      72

      People have talked about this already but oh well.

      Sure, sky is the limit. We'll run Dolphin and then some PCSX2, we might even get to play the PC versions of 3.60+ games through Wine and stuff like that. And then we'll get to the window to watch leprechauns ride on unicorns and spread double rainbows in the sky.

    73. advocatusdiaboli
      09-07-2011
      05:12 PM
      73

      Originally Posted by thamps View Post
      Bringing back a Linux Distro to the picture.

      How well will XBMC fare now with these available RSX Drivers? Will some of the high end themes work smoothly? Will 1080p movie playback go smoothly?
      No, but from this further work can be achieved.

    74. VIRGIN KLM
      09-07-2011
      05:20 PM
      74

      Put me in the Tiger-OSX-absence dissapointed pack of people.
      And yes PS3 is powerful enough to run more than just the OS in Tiger's case, not to mention that G4s and G5's that Tiger was bundled with had inside the NVidia card that RSX is based on.
      I mean Tiger screams for a PS3 port...
      Oh also a question:
      Is there a build/live cd or whatever of Ubuntu 11.04/11.10 for PS3?
      Also now that what this thing IS EXACTLY got clarified by pirate which is the correct way to use it? Any tutorials?

    75. hellsing9
      09-09-2011
      08:13 AM
      75

      This guys do magic. My kudos! keep it coming.