gmitesh90
09-08-2011
06:32 AM

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i think this should be front paged!!

CrystalWolf
09-08-2011
06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gmitesh90

i think this should be front paged!!

You have to leave that up to the news writers, its their decision whether they want to frontpage this or not.

daxgr
09-08-2011
07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CrystalWolf

You have to leave that up to the news writers, its their decision whether they want to frontpage this or not.

Besides, you can not get it work, NEVER.

GregoryRasputin
09-08-2011
07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by gmitesh90

i think this should be front paged!!

I will edit it and front page it, but it is junk to us, it wont help us gain anything, or put us any further.

lightyear
09-08-2011
08:41 AM

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how will this get us no further???? Official SDK only works on dex consoles.....this will turn all retail cfw consoles into dex consoles.

I don't think I need to remind you all of the sdk argument the other day where I was told by all you guys that if I had a debug console, master disks would run.......so what-say-you, now?

.....and how did someone else get credit for submitting this 2 hours ago when I submitted this over 8 hours ago?

GregoryRasputin
09-08-2011
08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lightyear

how will this get us no further???? Official SDK only works on dex consoles.....this will turn all retail cfw consoles into dex consoles.

I don't think I need to remind you all of the sdk argument the other day where I was told by all you guys that if I had a debug console, master disks would run.......so what-say-you, now?

.....and how did someone else get credit for submitting this 2 hours ago when I submitted this over 8 hours ago?

Dude sorry, i didn't see yours, kids at school, late nights early mornings, out all day, etc, etc, etc

Anyhow, how do you expect to get to get the "request_idps.txt", you think Sony is going to come to your house and say "Here homie, let me hook this sh*t up for you".

So until we get this IDPS, this is just a useless RAR with a bunch of useless files.

Also the SDK is pointless, for people that are not developers, try listening g to people that know their sh*t.

EDIT
I just looked and you didn't submit any news on this on this forum, you have only started two threads and they have nothing to do with this release.

mick500
09-08-2011
09:15 AM

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so this isn't good then? lol. all this stuff being released, some claiming its gonna lead to great things and others ****ting all over it. personally i would have thought it was good. but i dont know much about anything. installing rebug was a huge success in my eyes lololol.

lightyear
09-08-2011
09:17 AM

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I clicked the news submission thing....no biggie, whatever It's here now.

anyway, yeah, I did read that could be a problem since a part of this is missing to make that happen, but I've also seen this quote from durandal.

[8/28/2011 08:03:45] Durandal Dokuchayev: hell i gave you 3.60 sdk without any hassle
[8/28/2011 08:03:54] Durandal Dokuchayev: without it, you won't get anything out of the ports
[8/28/2011 08:04:01] Durandal Dokuchayev: you need ssl certs it recognizes
[8/28/2011 08:04:10] squarepusher64: and they changed those certificates?
[8/28/2011 08:04:14] Durandal Dokuchayev: yep
[8/28/2011 08:04:16] Durandal Dokuchayev: rms was using it too much
[8/28/2011 08:04:28] Durandal Dokuchayev: they changed the port number too
[8/28/2011 08:05:07] squarepusher64: so how are people still able to do it then?
[8/28/2011 08:05:09] squarepusher64: through Math's method?

[8/28/2011 08:07:12] Durandal Dokuchayev: 61.213.152.162
[8/28/2011 08:07:17] Durandal Dokuchayev: sure
[8/28/2011 08:07:26] Durandal Dokuchayev: use port 63210
[8/28/2011 08:08:08] Durandal Dokuchayev: with proper certs it'll give you the new dex idps
[8/28/2011 08:08:15] Durandal Dokuchayev: or you can do what snowy and crashserious are working on
[8/28/2011 08:08:28] Durandal Dokuchayev: i have a cex idps
[8/28/2011 08:08:45] Durandal Dokuchayev: and both its phat and slim dex idpses
[8/28/2011 08:08:53] Durandal Dokuchayev: you can use to figure out what changed

I understand maybe in its current, leaked form it may not be everything we need, but wouldn't that be the only missing link? It sounds to me like he's found a way to generate it....maybe we just need to get square to light another fire under his ass lol

btw, the sdk isn't useless....I learned how to create dynamic themes with it last night, which I've never been able to do with any other app available until now. I hit a roadblock with compiling dds files a while back, and this just solved all my problems....so IMO, it's priceless :D

GregoryRasputin
09-08-2011
09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lightyear

btw, the sdk isn't useless....I learned how to create dynamic themes with it last night, which I've never been able to do with any other app available until now. I hit a roadblock with compiling dds files a while back, and this just solved all my problems....so IMO, it's priceless :D

lol ill put it a different way, the SDK is useless to about 90% of the people that downloaded it

VIRGIN KLM
09-08-2011
09:38 AM

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Well this isn't quite bad news, or no -good- news at all, don't mistake me but aren't there developers in the PS3 scene?; because I thought there are, and good ones indeed... Most of them wished that something like this could happen to ease up their work, even if it's one step before happening, it's worth mentioning and being happy, you can't always expect one crazy leak to happen after the other, even though latelly on the scene something like this is common. I'm pretty sure developers that can't afford buying from the black market a DEX console now have a smile on their faces and that some of them will get rid of asking somebody to invest a DEX console on them or ask for donations to buy one.
Think of a little bit further...

lightyear
09-08-2011
09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin

lol ill put it a different way, the SDK is useless to about 90% of the people that downloaded it

hahahah....ok, I can definitely agree with that

lukethomasx
09-08-2011
09:54 AM

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with the idps what would be possible?

GregoryRasputin
09-08-2011
09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lukethomasx

with the idps what would be possible?

Yeah...
But where are you going to get one, i think you have more of a chance of the 3.70 keys being released.

daxgr
09-08-2011
10:02 AM

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Hey people.... Homebrew developers COULD have the SDK in private like the scummbags who leaked it, it being public is BAD.. read my post if you like. Also YOU CAN NOT CONVERT TO DEX; PERIOD. NO cex2dex, EVER.
The SDK is useless to most of you, only homebrew devs will benefit and if they wanted they could ask for it in PRIVATE! No GAIN for the end user.

P.S. PiracyOnDEX.difficulty >> PiracyOnCEX.difficulty.

Yeah, it's true. Now what do you want DEX units for?

jackandjill
09-08-2011
10:20 AM

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Hello guys so the sdks that have been realeased recently are in no way can be used to develop Homebrew apps? and also if i want to do homebrew apps what is the proper sdk that i have to use and any tutorial to start off? tks i really like programming and ps3 is just great

west79
09-08-2011
10:22 AM

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whatever, as long something happens to the scene.

will it die or not, who cares, I don't get all the hate about the leaks, grow up guys.

it will be fun to watch.

KillerBug
09-08-2011
10:31 AM

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From the article, the file from sony is a generic one that is included with the PC app...but it is all illegal so I am not going to DL it to see.

There is just one little issue...even if this does work, the only advantage would be the ability to install debug firmware to test 3.60 homebrew. This sounds great in theory, but since this would only be necessary for 3.60 apps, and there is no 3.60 CFW, the apps would be useless to end users. It might be helpful for hacking 3.60, but what would be the point of that?

lightyear
09-08-2011
11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBug

From the article, the file from sony is a generic one that is included with the PC app...but it is all illegal so I am not going to DL it to see.

There is just one little issue...even if this does work, the only advantage would be the ability to install debug firmware to test 3.60 homebrew. This sounds great in theory, but since this would only be necessary for 3.60 apps, and there is no 3.60 CFW, the apps would be useless to end users. It might be helpful for hacking 3.60, but what would be the point of that?

so every console can install cfw without buying hardware. there's plenty of people who have updated or purchased updated consoles that want to jump in the action. I think people forget about this percentage of the population too easily sometimes

Pockets69
09-08-2011
12:05 PM

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I just can't belive the scum keeps leaking stuff, its completely lost, this is ****ing lost, you can't ****ing trust anyone!
Whatever, **** is out, but can't be used so **** it.

still every leak that happens gives devs less and less will to work on something, its not your fault guys, you didn't leak anything, but trust me, its not a motive to be happy about something like this, also the final strike is yet to come i believe to kill this scene once and for all, and i see people clapping and enjoying the show... it saddens me

CrashSerious
09-08-2011
12:15 PM

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The most important piece is missing, it's 100% useless to 100% of the people out there... and they thought Wanikoko created a lot of bricks...

lightyear
09-08-2011
12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pockets69

I just can't belive the scum keeps leaking stuff, its completely lost, this is ****ing lost, you can't ****ing trust anyone!
Whatever, **** is out, but can't be used so **** it.

still every leak that happens gives devs less and less will to work on something, its not your fault guys, you didn't leak anything, but trust me, its not a motive to be happy about something like this, also the final strike is yet to come i believe to kill this scene once and for all, and i see people clapping and enjoying the show... it saddens me

how would something that would allow us to update our consoles to the most recent debugging ofw kill the scene?? That would mean we could all use homebrew on every console and.....dare I say....other 'less-than-legal' things people want, as well as psn. And there's nothing sony could do to stop it, because if they did they would only be affecting official developers too.

if anything, this seems like if we can get that last piece we need, not only would it be a full resurrection, but immortality, so to speak

pbanj
09-08-2011
12:30 PM

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actually it would not be hard for them to block the fake ones from psn all they would have to do is look at the ip addresses of the dev units and say hey we did not approve all of these and ban banned from psn and then what would people do they would come here and cry that they got banned and blame it on the devs.

also leaks never help any one all they do is cause the people with stuff not to share it with anyone as they feel they cant trust anyone

lightyear
09-08-2011
12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pbanj

actually it would not be hard for them to block the fake ones from psn all they would have to do is look at the ip addresses of the dev units and say hey we did not approve all of these and ban banned from psn and then what would people do they would come here and cry that they got banned and blame it on the devs.

also leaks never help any one all they do is cause the people with stuff not to share it with anyone as they feel they cant trust anyone

ok, good point about psn....but it would definitely blow the homebrew (and backup) scenes wide opened because of its inherent ability to natively install packages and run backed up game files....am I correct? And from what I understand is we would also be able to update to newer debugging ofw at will, right? that would mean nothing sony could do would block us from using homebrew ever again...not without having a negative affect on official developers, am I correct?

pbanj
09-08-2011
12:37 PM

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well in a way they could i know ms use to brick the dev 360s that they did not authorize if they connected to p-net so sony could do something along those lines if they wanted to and there is really not much you can do about that

Pockets69
09-08-2011
12:39 PM

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they are already doing that pbanj, also lightyear, its not possible to use, you very well know that you quoted a part of a convo with square! so you know its not possible to use!

lightyear
09-08-2011
12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pockets69

they are already doing that pbanj, also lightyear, its not possible to use, you very well know that you quoted a part of a convo with square! so you know its not possible to use!

not without that missing piece....but I've heard durandal & rebug each have a different way of getting it

Originally Posted by pbanj

well in a way they could i know ms use to brick the dev 360s that they did not authorize if they connected to p-net so sony could do something along those lines if they wanted to and there is really not much you can do about that

sorry, dude, but that's not even a legitimate argument...I can solve that problem in about 2 seconds....ready?? unplug the ethernet and turn of wlan in debugging settings. lol problem solved!

Pockets69
09-08-2011
12:48 PM

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No lightyear there is only one way to obtain it!
rebug method is indeed diferent! but its a diferent type of hack, not the same as this one.

lightyear
09-08-2011
12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pockets69

No lightyear there is only one way to obtain it!
rebug method is indeed diferent! but its a diferent type of hack, not the same as this one.

so then it's not cex->dex at all? what about durandal?? he's got a method, I've heard.

pbanj
09-08-2011
12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lightyear

sorry, dude, but that's not even a legitimate argument...I can solve that problem in about 2 seconds....ready?? unplug the ethernet and turn of wlan in debugging settings. lol problem solved!

you are funny you ask how could sony stop it i tell you and you say its not a legit argument ha. are you here to just troll?as all u seem to do is argue with people

Pockets69
09-08-2011
12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lightyear

so then it's not cex->dex at all? what about durandal?? he's got a method, I've heard.

It is installing a dex firmware on a cex machine so yeah! but its another method, and it works.
as for whatever you heard, no man that one you saw in the logs, is how you get it, there is not another way.

Thelostdeathknight
09-08-2011
12:57 PM

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missing files and you got to hack a sony server.... wow this is pure win. anybody who tries hacking Sony's servers, all i can say is don't drop the soap XD

lightyear
09-08-2011
12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pbanj

you are funny you ask how could sony stop it i tell you and you say its not a legit argument ha. are you here to just troll?as all u seem to do is argue with people

nope, I just am smart enough to realize that remotely bricking a console isn't possible if you don't even let it attempt connect to their server by completely severing its internet connection....and the fact that you thought that would convince me they could brick a console remotely without having any remote access to it is utterly insulting.

the only way I could see us hitting any snags would b e if they kept updated dex ofw under lock & key...but even then, just leaking that alone would be enough to get us right back up & running in a matter of minutes.

pbanj
09-08-2011
01:05 PM

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i never said they could do it without an internet connection so dont even try to wist my words. but 90% of the people that would do this would connect it to psn and then they would come here and cry

havok7
09-08-2011
01:16 PM

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open that mofo ps3 wide and let start playing the new games,i really have no interest in psn or any homeberw stuff just for the new games

lightyear
09-08-2011
01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pbanj

i never said they could do it without an internet connection so dont even try to wist my words. but 90% of the people that would do this would connect it to psn and then they would come here and cry

well then that's their problem for being stupid. that doesn't mean it would stop homebrew...it's just an incidental. just like 360's can be banned....this scenario would just be worse because it doesn't just block online access but destroy your console. Yeah, it would suck for those that it could happen to, but sh*t happens, life still goes on, and you learn to read before doing stupid things.

my point was there would not be any way to block homebrew & backups, because any updates released to block access in a previous version would just be worthless if we can just install the new version and keep our hombrew working. we'd be at a level playing field for, say, wii...they're so beaten they haven't even tried to release an update to patch all the lego exploits because they know they just can't win. This is where I see sony going.

BobbyBlunt
09-08-2011
01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by havok7

open that mofo ps3 wide and let start playing the new games,i really have no interest in psn or any homeberw stuff just for the new games

If that is true there is a very easy solution for you

UPDATE TO OFW

havok7
09-08-2011
01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt

If that is true there is a very easy solution for you UPDATE TO OFW

playing out of HDD is much better

Warning
09-08-2011
01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt

If that is true there is a very easy solution for you UPDATE TO OFW

I am going to update if we do not have a solution by Skyrim time. Sucks that xbox are getting the first 2 dlc packs. It's kinda like spitting on my future sacrifices.

denero1
09-08-2011
01:55 PM

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here we go again -_-

lunuxx
09-08-2011
02:00 PM

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I'm gonna donkey punch the next person that pastes or references those logs, Thats just disgraceful and disrespectful <--this is another reason why we cant have nice things

General Plot
09-08-2011
02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by havok7

open that mofo ps3 wide and let start playing the new games,i really have no interest in psn or any homeberw stuff just for the new games

If you don't care about homebrew, why not just update to the latest ofw and play them? Seems to me what you meant to say was all you care about is piracy.

For people like you with intentions like that, I hope you do manage to brick yourselves. People killing the scene by leaking stuff are still not as bad as people who are killing the PS3 platform by stealing games.

metalheavy
09-08-2011
02:54 PM

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Blah blah blah. Regardless it doesn't matter. The more **** in our hands to tinker with is a good thing period. As far as everyone actually caring if someone got a brick should get an actual life outside of their ps3 units :P As far as I am concerned I want homebrew/customization/opened console/newer game support for ACTUAL games I purchase. Don't care if there are backup manager's or not. Although the backup managers will never stop so whining about pirated games is still a non-winning argument either way you look at it. I say keep bringing the leaks and the flashers and every damn thing we can slap Sony in the nuts with as well as allowing us to do exactly what we please with our consoles. Hat's off to the devs and a swift kick in the face to those that wanna complain and ***** about it. BIAW!!!!
************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

Originally Posted by General Plot

If you don't care about homebrew, why not just update to the latest ofw and play them? Seems to me what you meant to say was all you care about is piracy. For people like you with intentions like that, I hope you do manage to brick yourselves. People killing the scene by leaking stuff are still not as bad as people who are killing the PS3 platform by stealing games.

Your a beta tester for the ps2 emulator and are totally for other emulation and your bashing someone because they downloaded a game? Pretty sure all those emulated games you play are pirated as well. Older systems or not. You cant say you NEVER pirated a game in your life. Especially as into the "emulation" scene as yourself. I got a kick out of that one!

General Plot
09-08-2011
03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by metalheavy

Your a beta tester for the ps2 emulator and are totally for other emulation and your bashing someone because they downloaded a game? Pretty sure all those emulated games you play are pirated as well. Older systems or not. You cant say you NEVER pirated a game in your life. Especially as into the "emulation" scene as yourself. I got a kick out of that one!

If you're starting to go down the emulation == piracy route, let me stop you before I make myself verbally rape you with a tree. I own a real PS2 and I own real games for it. Our emulator isn't designed as a magical piracy tool. Hell, I could install FreeMCBoot if I wanted that. The main advantage that the emulator has over the real machine is true full HD resolutions (not that crappy upscaled pic that backwards compatible PS3 puts out), unlimited memory cards, save states, and many others. Unlike most emulators that exist, ours is able to run games directly from the original store-bought PS2 discs using a PC DVD drive.

I've seen piracy kill other platforms (Dreamcast anyone?), and I don't really care what you think you know about emulation, I know I care enough about seeing the PS3 lasting as a viable developer platform and I'll tell anyone off who threatens that possibility. I'm not some kid on here playing games all day, downloading games I can't pay for because I don't get enough allowance. Hopefully you'll work hard at something someday, and with any luck at all, karma will cause you to have someone else take it on you so you can know how it feels.

lightyear
09-08-2011
03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by metalheavy

Blah blah blah. Regardless it doesn't matter. The more **** in our hands to tinker with is a good thing period. As far as everyone actually caring if someone got a brick should get an actual life outside of their ps3 units :P As far as I am concerned I want homebrew/customization/opened console/newer game support for ACTUAL games I purchase. Don't care if there are backup manager's or not. Although the backup managers will never stop so whining about pirated games is still a non-winning argument either way you look at it. I say keep bringing the leaks and the flashers and every damn thing we can slap Sony in the nuts with as well as allowing us to do exactly what we please with our consoles. Hat's off to the devs and a swift kick in the face to those that wanna complain and ***** about it. BIAW!!!!
************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

Your a beta tester for the ps2 emulator and are totally for other emulation and your bashing someone because they downloaded a game? Pretty sure all those emulated games you play are pirated as well. Older systems or not. You cant say you NEVER pirated a game in your life. Especially as into the "emulation" scene as yourself. I got a kick out of that one!

Really old games are not piracy...I think it goes back 20 years...I may be wrong about how long...not exactly sure. But you do make a good point... ps2emu is very much piracy still...it's very hypocritical to say someone else should stop pirating content just because the content they're pirating is a little newer.

havok7
09-08-2011
04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by General Plot

If you don't care about homebrew, why not just update to the latest ofw and play them? Seems to me what you meant to say was all you care about is piracy. For people like you with intentions like that, I hope you do manage to brick yourselves. People killing the scene by leaking stuff are still not as bad as people who are killing the PS3 platform by stealing games.

actually i updated one ps3 to OF 3.70 last week when i got resistance 3,and i stated in one thread,i got one used ps3 with 3.55 kmeaw and i want that unit to be able to play the new games too fromm HDD,does not mean if someone wants to play new games on cfw is pirating lol.
And btw why would you give a fock what other people do,everyone can do what they want with theirs ps3,seriously no one cares what you think lol

General Plot
09-08-2011
04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lightyear

Really old games are not piracy...I think it goes back 20 years...I may be wrong about how long...not exactly sure. But you do make a good point... ps2emu is very much piracy still...it's very hypocritical to say someone else should stop pirating content just because the content they're pirating is a little newer.

Every game I run on the emulator I legitimately own a genuine copy of. I'm not a hypocrite; I practice what I preach. Try reading my entire post before jumping the gun like that.

General Plot
09-08-2011
04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by havok7

actually i updated one ps3 to OF 3.70 last week when i got resistance 3,and i stated in one thread,i got one used ps3 with 3.55 kmeaw and i want that unit to be able to play the new games too fromm HDD,does not mean if someone wants to play new games on cfw is pirating lol.
And btw why would you give a fock what other people do,everyone can do what they want with theirs ps3,seriously no one cares what you think lol

I know if you didn't care, you wouldn't have replied. You make no sense. You say you don't care about homebrew, only running new games, yet you say you have a 3.70 updated ps3, which completely contradicts your previous statement. If you ask me, it looks like you're trying to backpedal.

havok7
09-08-2011
04:09 PM

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Attention

Grow the hell up and stop being so childish

lightyear
09-08-2011
04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by General Plot

Every game I run on the emulator I legitimately own a genuine copy of. I'm not a hypocrite; I practice what I preach. Try reading my entire post before jumping the gun like that.

so??? Backing them up is still illegal since you have to break security to do that.

havok7
09-08-2011
04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lightyear

so??? Backing them up is still illegal since you have to break security to do that.

please man dont argue with that guy he has some issues,he sees piracy on every corner,maybe he watched pirates of the caribbean too many times,and every second person he sees as Jack Sparrow
Oh and btw Jack Sparrow was cool

lightyear
09-08-2011
05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by havok7

please man dont argue with that guy he has some issues,he sees piracy on every corner,maybe he watched pirates of the caribbean too many times,and every second person he sees as Jack Sparrow
Oh and btw Jack Sparrow was cool

hahaha....you obviously don't know me very well, man....I'm about as far from shunning piracy as sony is from just handing us the 3.70 keys. I'm just pointing out that just because you own the game does not make backing it up legal when you have to circumvent security to do it.

vak
09-08-2011
05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by General Plot

If you don't care about homebrew, why not just update to the latest ofw and play them? Seems to me what you meant to say was all you care about is piracy. For people like you with intentions like that, I hope you do manage to brick yourselves. People killing the scene by leaking stuff are still not as bad as people who are killing the PS3 platform by stealing games.

Here we go with this **** again, Piracy has been around since the written word, last I checked books still sell.

A.) The ps3 platform isn't being "killed". It still sells pretty well and we can still can't run any of the more recently released titles.
B.) Used games do more damage to the industry than piracy ever has and ever will.
C.) You have a jailbroken console. If anything you're part of the so called Killing the industry trololol.

I'm sure you've never downloaded a song or movie, and I know for damn sure every video you've watched on youtube or every song you've listened to on youtube, you made sure to do it with the actual permissions of course. In short, why don't you ****ing people get off your high horse jesus christ.

General Plot
09-08-2011
05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lightyear

so??? Backing them up is still illegal since you have to break security to do that.

Really? Have you ever actually tried putting a PS2 game into your PC drive? You'll find you can make an ISO and read/copy files from it with no security in place to prevent it. Get your facts straight before you come out blazing.

Originally Posted by havok7

please man dont argue with that guy he has some issues,he sees piracy on every corner,maybe he watched pirates of the caribbean too many times,and every second person he sees as Jack Sparrow

Or maybe he's seen too many people abuse homebrew capabilities to sit by and say nothing.

Originally Posted by lightyear

hahaha....you obviously don't know me very well, man....I'm about as far from shunning piracy as sony is from just handing us the 3.70 keys. I'm just pointing out that just because you own the game does not make backing it up legal when you have to circumvent security to do it.

A couple points to make here. As I've said, PS2 games (original ones mind you even) have no copy protection embedded in their discs. And you don't have to copy the game to run it in our emulator, it can run the game directly from an original disc. How many times do I have to say this?

Originally Posted by vak

Here we go with this **** again, Piracy has been around since the written word, last I checked books still sell.

A.) The ps3 platform isn't being "killed". It still sells pretty well and we can still can't run any of the more recently released titles.
B.) Used games do more damage to the industry than piracy ever has and ever will.
C.) You have a jailbroken console. If anything you're part of the so called Killing the industry trololol.

I'm sure you've never downloaded a song or movie, and I know for damn sure every video you've watched on youtube or every song you've listened to on youtube, you made sure to do it with the actual permissions of course. In short, why don't you ****ing people get off your high horse jesus christ.

Yada yada, I've heard all this BS before. It's the same excuses pirates keep coming back to in order to justify their actions. Keep telling yourself whatever it takes to make you feel better about it......

vak
09-08-2011
06:09 PM

54

Originally Posted by General Plot

More white knight blah blah I'm better than you, etc.

Yada yada, I've heard all this BS before. It's the same excuses pirates keep coming back to in order to justify their actions. Keep telling yourself whatever it takes to make you feel better about it......

Delusions of grandeur bro. I don't feel anything about what I do other than feelsgoodman.jpg, Nor do I or anyone else on this board need to justify anything to you.

We get it, pirates are the scum of the earth but for the love of god can someone post a tutorial so flashlight cops like this guy can find a 100% legit legal homebrew path to get the **** over themselves?

GregoryRasputin
09-08-2011
06:18 PM

55

Would you idiots stop being so disrespectful and show General Plot some respect.

metalheavy
09-08-2011
08:02 PM

56

Rape me with a tree? Whoa there buddy I use that emulator currently and yes I put my games I purchased in my drive and play them as well. I am very aware of what emulation is because I have been doing it from the beginning of emulation. I love homebrew emulators. Why do you think I am still on CFW?? But you will have to agree with me when I say most who emulate pirate out of their ass. Am I wrong? lol. I simply stated that regardless of your backed up games I would never believe you never pirated a game or lets say pirated anything. Pretty hard to believe in this day and age especially when you know your way around the net and a pc pretty damn well. Last time I checked there isn't a single piece of evidence stating piracy has hurt the PS3 platform or any other Playstation. Show me what you say "kills" the console's lifespan and I will side with you. I have looked very deeply and cannot find it So as much as the pirates in your terms "make the same exscuse" so do the people that aren't pirates. But regardless of what they think about the games their iPods will be full of songs they yanked off of Limewire and god knows what else. I believe in the theory that the developers should get paid for their hard work. But also let me tell you have bought quite a few games that were absolute trash that I would have loved to get a refund but that simply dont happen So all-in-all I would say I have bought more games trying them before I bought them and that gave me the insight on how much the game was valued at. If I think it was worth the $60 I am all game to purcahse it and support them. I am not a super "pirate" what so ever but I just think that the argument is 50/50. Because we all know Sony ain't hurting for the so called "pirated" games and neither is the console
************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin

Would you idiots stop being so disrespectful and show General Plot some respect.

I am showing respect. Just raising the point that it's very unlikely the guy NEVER EVER EVER pirated anything in his life. That's all Gregory. Although he did say he was gonna try to rape me with a tree LOL!

P.S. I hope you weren't calling me an idiot. Because I am far from that. That would show your showing disrespect

chi3f
09-08-2011
08:59 PM

57

All of this squabbling is crazy. Maybe all of this negativity, hate, and arguing is going to be the death of the scene. I mainly read these forums and rarely reply but the amount of arguing that goes on in the PS3 scene is kinda crazy. People just have to remember that an opinion is just that. The thing about opinions is that none of them are wrong, that is what defines them from fact. Arguing over opinion is a pointless endeavor. I am always especially astounded by the piracy arguments. Of course piracy is wrong, it is stealing after all but I just don't understand why people argue about it, the pirates will always pirate and the people who don't, won't. That is the way it has and always will be. If you don't think it is right than just leave the wrong doers alone, they arent going to listen to you anyway. Waste of time.

Sorry, just my opinion on the whole thing. Don't really like to rant.

lightyear
09-08-2011
09:14 PM

58

Originally Posted by General Plot

Really? Have you ever actually tried putting a PS2 game into your PC drive? You'll find you can make an ISO and read/copy files from it with no security in place to prevent it. Get your facts straight before you come out blazing.

sorry, but even still...playing a backup would require breaking security.

Originally Posted by General Plot

A couple points to make here. As I've said, PS2 games (original ones mind you even) have no copy protection embedded in their discs. And you don't have to copy the game to run it in our emulator, it can run the game directly from an original disc. How many times do I have to say this?

this is something I was not aware of. If you mentioned it here then I missed it.

Honestly, I couldn't care less if you want to pirate or not. It doesn't affect me one way or the other...I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy

Playing original disks would be pretty sweet, since I own all the games I want to play...I just don't have a ps2 to play them on anymore since mine died.

KillerBug
09-08-2011
11:20 PM

59

Originally Posted by lightyear

sorry, but even still...playing a backup would require breaking security.

this is something I was not aware of. If you mentioned it here then I missed it.

Honestly, I couldn't care less if you want to pirate or not. It doesn't affect me one way or the other...I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy

Playing original disks would be pretty sweet, since I own all the games I want to play...I just don't have a ps2 to play them on anymore since mine died.

PS2 games don't have copy protection...they have special disks that trigger the system to accept the disk or not, but that does not prevent copying and no cracking needs to be done to make the games play on systems that never had this feature. Cart games are not copy protected either...they just relied on the difficulty of making the cartridge itself.

However, Music CDs are copy protected and they do need to be cracked in order to make MP3s...and the PS3 does this FROM THE FACTORY. If it is illegal to break security for the purposes of running purchased content on another platform, then it would be illegal to sell the PS3.

erexx
09-08-2011
11:21 PM

60

The community does not want just homebrew alone.
Its simply not enough to keep it alive.
They will eat anything they think might keep their consoles relevant.

daxgr
09-09-2011
12:33 AM

61

Do you all understand that DEX units are harder to pirate with? It requires the same as the CEX(decrypt the selfs/sprxs) AND also you need to modify the executables before re-encrypting/fself-ing. Also NO PSN on DEX. Unless of course you work for EA,Valve etc..

KillerBug
09-09-2011
12:36 AM

62

Harder to pirate with than 3.55 CFW...but a lot easier to run homebrew than with OFW.

erexx
09-09-2011
01:51 AM

63

Originally Posted by daxgr

Do you all understand that DEX units are harder to pirate with? It requires the same as the CEX(decrypt the selfs/sprxs) AND also you need to modify the executables before re-encrypting/fself-ing. Also NO PSN on DEX. Unless of course you work for EA,Valve etc..

If only that could be tattooed like "poor impulse control" on some peoples forehead.

Originally Posted by KillerBug

Harder to pirate with than 3.55 CFW...but a lot easier to run homebrew than with OFW.

3.41 in retail mode gives me very little trouble running anything except backup managers which I don't use anyway.
I do find that I have to extract, sign and repackage some homebrew before it will run in 3.41 retail mode.

KillerBug
09-09-2011
02:11 AM

64

3.41 with OFW doesn't even have a package installer.

daxgr
09-09-2011
02:34 AM

65

People if you want dex wait for rebug's single.

erexx
09-09-2011
03:13 AM

66

Originally Posted by KillerBug

3.41 with OFW doesn't even have a package installer.

Why would I need one?
Just use a Dongle with Hermes4B to install.
I rarely use a dongle anymore... everything I need is signed to run in Retail 3.41.

Originally Posted by daxgr

People if you want dex wait for rebug's single.

Yes Exactly.
Very Excited.
Been patiently waiting and watching.

vSaAmTp
09-09-2011
05:41 AM

67

I want a Debug. Great news. I hope somebody find a way to make a request_idps.txt.

General Plot
09-09-2011
10:27 AM

68

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin

Would you idiots stop being so disrespectful and show General Plot some respect.

Thanks Greg. I appreciate it, but I'm used to the kinda crap kids like these come up with, and quite frankly, it doesn't bother me the slightest. Too bad Pirate took off my mod status though, huh?

Originally Posted by lightyear

Playing original disks would be pretty sweet, since I own all the games I want to play...I just don't have a ps2 to play them on anymore since mine died.

If you still own your PS2 and have your original games, then you may be in luck. If your PS2 runs enough to get a BIOS dump from it, then you can use our emulator to play your games on. We aren't 100% compatible mind you, but almost 80% of the games we've tested are now fully playable, so there's a good chance some of yours will work on it. You can find out if your games are on our compatiblity list here to see if they work. If so, then by all means feel free to download the latest build (and you'll need the BIOS dumped from your PS2 as well) and give it a go.

Edit: I've made a video showing PCSX2 in action running a game direct from disc.

PCSX2 Demo (For PS3Hax purposes) - YouTube

Also, as promised, a comparison shot of PCSX2 versus a PS3 running the same game in upscaled mode. If nothing else makes you understand why we work so hard on PCSX2, this should.

ViperMM
09-09-2011
06:39 PM

69

Originally Posted by General Plot

Also, as promised, a comparison shot of PCSX2 versus a PS3 running the same game in upscaled mode. If nothing else makes you understand why we work so hard on PCSX2, this should.

I wasn't going to get involved in this but because General Plot is so far off topic I will. Open source = Open Software. Devs hiding **** and never releasing = the travesty of poor emulation we have on the PS3 we have no "real" PSX FOR ****S SAKE. And the list is long PS2, N64, possibly dreamcast.

Now, @General Plot I do like PCSX2. I don't give a **** how good you god damn make the graphics. There is a nostalgia factor to playing games on a PS3, PS2, and PSX. Emulate that *****!
EDIT:Seriously all that we have emulated could be done on 3.15.

metalheavy
09-10-2011
09:35 AM

70

Crap like these kids come up with? Now dude you have officially declared yourself a ******. You seem more disrespectful than most on this thread. Kids? What are you like 45? Who you calling a kid? I'm glad you dont have a mod status and the reason being is probably because you would ban/cut out posts anyone said back to you Mr. Bruce Almighty. You ain't some badass and you sure ain't ultra "L33T" because your behind some emulator and are a co-founder of your glorious little forum. Get off your high horse pal and find a life outside of all this gaming stuff because it seems it's gone to your head. Tried to be respectful but you simply dont deserve it.

itskamel
09-10-2011
09:46 AM

71

lets please stop all the nonsense and get back "on topic".

metalheavy
09-10-2011
09:47 AM

72

Originally Posted by itskamel

lets please stop all the nonsense and get back "on topic".

Agreed.

General Plot
09-10-2011
01:52 PM

73

Originally Posted by metalheavy

Crap like these kids come up with? Now dude you have officially declared yourself a ******. You seem more disrespectful than most on this thread. Kids? What are you like 45? Who you calling a kid? I'm glad you dont have a mod status and the reason being is probably because you would ban/cut out posts anyone said back to you Mr. Bruce Almighty. You ain't some badass and you sure ain't ultra "L33T" because your behind some emulator and are a co-founder of your glorious little forum. Get off your high horse pal and find a life outside of all this gaming stuff because it seems it's gone to your head. Tried to be respectful but you simply dont deserve it.

When you act like a kid, expect to be called one. If your idea of debating your point of view is by throwing insults around rather than having a constructive conversation, I'd call that childish, and this post is just another example. I'm an easy guy to get along with, ask anyone that knows me. And just a point, I'm not leaving gaming at yours or anyone else's request. I've been a gamer since the days of the Atari 2600 and Commodore 64's, and I plan to stick around. Grow up.

metalheavy
09-10-2011
02:12 PM

74

Gonna rape me with a tree? Very nice guy you are You need to grow up pal. Dont insult someone over some stupid opinion of yours and you wouldn't have an issue. Stick to your non-pirate self and those pirates will stick to theirs. You started the insult. So next time dont be hypocritical and you wont have to hear from anyone. Calling someone a kid because they dont believe in what you do is pure childish behavior. Think before you post. BTW I am a very nice guy as well. We done here?

GregoryRasputin
09-10-2011
02:14 PM

75

metalheavy stop being a retard please.

aladdin
09-10-2011
02:16 PM

76

i am an official nice guy
done

ViperMM
09-10-2011
06:50 PM

77

On a serious note what has any of the last 3 pages had to do with DEX, let alone converting a CEX2DEX. Rather than ***** about piracy f**king somebody figure or speculate this idps and all that noise. Why do I care what you intend to use your DEX for? And why is your DEX usage anyone elses god damned business?
http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?title=IDPS
Read there!^^^ figure out what the unknown bits are and start getting a DEX!
Or better yet start by checking where the checksums are that check this idps and find a way to bypass it. I will be doing some work but I am speculating on how someone could do this on their own. I am SHARING the steps I would try.

metalheavy
09-10-2011
08:36 PM

78

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin

metalheavy stop being a retard please.

Don't call me a retard pal. Because I am far from one. Actually don't even try to defend someone from the opinion they are trying to make. Don't bring your friendship into a dispute. It never work out. I told you how I felt and weren't aiming any fingers at you so stay out my affairs with someone else. He wants to make his opinion known and so will I. It would be absolutely selfish and ridiculous/one-sided to take your little friends word over some simple opinionated/hypocritical debate. If that's how you do business here than you can sincerely kiss my ass.

Your friendship/personal relation to someone on a open minded forum is an error on your behalf. You take your retarded word and slap yourself with it. I made a valid point to the guy and he responded with a semi-childish response. Don't be an idiot Greg. Keep your special interest out of the conversation. Your friend sat here and took it WAY off topic starting with telling someone about their anti-pirate views and how they would like to see all pirates wind up with a ban all the way to his ridiculous advertising for his (not his because all he has done is beta test some software which my 5 yr old could do not to mention be a co-founder of a simple forum such as the one he advertises) PS2 emulator which has nothing to do with the point at hand. Knowing the guy has pirated probably as well as you have. So take it as you will but if you want to run a successful forum do us all a favor and take your "friend" credit off of the table. I like your news Greg and I like you but do me a favor and don't defend someone else. He is a big boy as he stated before and can answer to his own issues. Unless your his big brother.

. I am an adult and see what he states and also see what he lacks in his conversation. Be a nice guy and not an ******* and dont defend full grown adults. Stay Greg like we always know you are a cool guy. I am done with this conversation. Say what you want.

Have a good night!

djcenox
09-13-2011
02:43 PM

79

# RequestIdps & write IDps--->
R 70 create request_idps_in.txt off FILE temp: pd_label.txt Copy temp:request_idps_in.txt 10
71 append tab to request_idps_in.txt off FILE temp:request_idps_in.txt Append 10 \t
72 append kiban_id to request_idps_in.txt off FILE temp:request_idps_in.txt Append 10 file://temp:kiban_id.txt
73 append cid to request_idps_in.txt off FILE temp:request_idps_in.txt Append 10 file://temp:cid.txt
74 append ecid to request_idps_in.txt off FILE temp:request_idps_in.txt Append 10 file://temp:ecid.txt
75 append config_version to request_idps_in.txt on FILE temp:request_idps_in.txt Append 10 file://temp:idps_bbox_config_version.txt
76 RequestIdps on PS3PICSY 61.213.152.162:63210,PS3CS1,00000,M RequestIdps temp:request_idps.txt 250 file://temp:request_idps_in.txt
77 insert product_label_bin_ascii to idps_data off FILE temp:request_idps.txt Insert 0 10 file://temp: pd_label_bin_ascii.txt
78 SetIdps on PS3LV2DIAG WriteRead 00000001 10 file://temp:request_idps.txt
79 GetIdps on PS3LV2DIAG WriteRead 00000005 10

[Released] PS3 CEX to DEX Kit (Retail to Debug)

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