• PS3 Hacks, Uncategorized , 26.10.2011

    Just good news after good news for the PS3 scene recently, as the folks over at PS3DevWiki have documented and released on how to dump the PS3 per console keys! For the newb what this does is basically replace the current function JB2 aka TrueBlue! In short once the keys for per_console_key_0 are found, it will basically fully unlocks the PS3 and grant as CFW access on basically ALL firmwares! This is great news for everyone in the PS3 scene and is only a matter of time before we have the keys!

    Update: Please understand that this method is for dumping per_console_key_1, and per_console_key_n. In order to get CFW we need to dump per_console_key_0.

    For those wondering or not sure  if you should buy the JB2/TrueBlue - THIS news story is worth the wait before investing in the device/bluray burner.

    Explanation of the root key:

    EID crypto is very complicated, it is done so on purpose first of all EID0 isn’t decrypted with one key and one
    algorithm alone it is decrypted in several parts which use different algos and keys the keys are all derivations
    of a per console key (per_console_key_1)which is stored inside metldr and copied by it to sector 0 and never
    leaves isolation that same key is a derivation of the per console key (per_console_key_0) used to encrypt metldr
    and the bl in the first place as well

    isoldr clears that key from sector 0 before jumping to the isolated module but before doing so it encrypts it
    with another keyset and stores it in a buffer so that the isolated module can use the new crafted key since the
    operation is AES if you know that keyset you can decrypt the crafted key and get the eid root key without pwning
    a loader or metldr through an isolated module that is not like you really need it because you can already use the
    crafted key to decrypt some of eid0 but not all of it and the crafted key also uses the first elf section to be
    built as in your isolated module will have a small section which only contains a key and that key is used as another
    layer by isoldr to encrypt the buffer with it so basically you have 2 encryption layer over the root key the final
    key then decrypts a specific part of the EID

    eid crypto is actually done smart that is because most of it originally comes from the cell bootrom as in they
    reuse the same algo used for metldr binaries and bl in the eid crypto including some of the keys and the steps
    and you cannot decrypt all of the eid sections unless you gathered every single keys and steps and there are a
    lot then you still have to figure out wtf it is you decrypted because eid is actually full of keys.

    Below is the documentation posted at the PS3DevWiki:

    per_console_root_key_0

    Click to expand post SelectShow

    per_console_root_key_1 / EID_root_key

    Click to expand post SelectShow

    per_console_root_key_2 / EID0_key

    Click to expand post SelectShow

    [More documentation can be seen over at PS3DevWiki]

    You heard it here first one PS3Hax, stay tuned for more updates on this story :)

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  • 342 Comments

    1. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      08:29 AM
      1

      if this can help get the root key then we laughing also good bye jb2 lol

    2. Nichibotsu
      10-26-2011
      08:29 AM
      2

      Originally Posted by Serpo
      This was posted a few hours ago on Ps3DevWiki:

      Code:*[Check Download Links]
      per_console_root_key_1 / EID_root_key

      derived from per_console_key_0
      stored inside metldr
      copied to sector 0 by metldr
      cleared by isoldr
      Used to decrypt part of the EID
      Used to derive further keys
      can be obtained with a modifyed isoldr that dumps it
      can be obtained with a derivation of this key going backwards

      [edit] obtaining it

      launch the patched isoldr with your prefered method

      modified kernel module
      payload

      (both can be found on this wiki)

      patched isoldr to dump it
      DO NOT CREATE AN MFW USING THIS IT WOULD BRICK
      http://www.multiupload.com/2MP5KY28EZ
      Apparantly you can dump your per_console_root_key_1 by using a patched isoldr.

      The Wiki also sais that this key can be used to get per_console_root_key_0 which decrypts bootldr. (But there is not any specific information on the wiki yet).
      hey, this was a very nice month for the scene : ) i'm sure this will help a lot of devs doing what they need to do... Also, wasn't this related in some way to playing newer games on CFW? correct me if i'm wrong, please

    3. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      08:33 AM
      3

      Originally Posted by Nichibotsu
      hey, this was a very nice month for the scene : ) i'm sure this will help a lot of devs doing what they need to do... Also, wasn't this related in some way to playing newer games on CFW? correct me if i'm wrong, please
      if i remember if we get the root key then we can fully decpted 3.56+ ofw then encpted it with 3,55 keys . root key is the mother keys of all which sony cant change only by hardware

    4. daveyp187
      10-26-2011
      08:41 AM
      4

      looks live the dev team are bang on it

    5. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      08:42 AM
      5

      Originally Posted by daveyp187
      looks live the dev team are bang on it
      xmas might be coming earlyer

    6. daveyp187
      10-26-2011
      08:44 AM
      6

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      xmas might be coming earlyer
      maybe but what else have you got to look forward to?

    7. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      08:52 AM
      7

      Originally Posted by daveyp187
      maybe but what else have you got to look forward to?
      finshing my own project thats all for me , what else could we want

    8. stuck?
      10-26-2011
      09:26 AM
      8

      Originally Posted by daveyp187
      maybe but what else have you got to look forward to?
      A long, healthy life of not having to worry about how or when Sony will try to stick it up our behinds again.

      And also, very beautiful women (or men, I don't know?).

      Looks like things are going forward now. It's been quite a while since anything "new" has been introduced to us. Save for some old DOS games, or random homebrew (not complaining, just stating it's nice to have something new. Also I'm ignorant; I just play my emulator's and don't use much/know of other `brew).

    9. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      09:50 AM
      9

      Originally Posted by stuck?
      A long, healthy life of not having to worry about how or when Sony will try to stick it up our behinds again.

      And also, very beautiful women (or men, I don't know?).

      Looks like things are going forward now. It's been quite a while since anything "new" has been introduced to us. Save for some old DOS games, or random homebrew (not complaining, just stating it's nice to have something new. Also I'm ignorant; I just play my emulator's and don't use much/know of other `brew).
      Yeah like that's gonna happen!

    10. Nichibotsu
      10-26-2011
      10:05 AM
      10

      Originally Posted by SmartLaughCOL
      Yeah like that's gonna happen!
      if we have the master key, we should not have to wrooy... also per console key is something good : )

    11. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      10:09 AM
      11

      Originally Posted by Nichibotsu
      if we have the master key, we should not have to wrooy... also per console key is something good : )
      Yeah i know i'm happy too but i'm talking about having a nice life

    12. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      10:17 AM
      12

      i wonder how long till sony starts psn bans once we get the root keys but then again who cares cfw shouldnt be on psn

    13. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      10:20 AM
      13

      If we get them devs should disable PSN because there's a lot of jerks.....

    14. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      10:27 AM
      14

      Originally Posted by SmartLaughCOL
      If we get them devs should disable PSN because there's a lot of jerks.....
      true but people will be able to use mfw builder to make it thats if i plugin comes out for that

    15. VIRGIN KLM
      10-26-2011
      10:28 AM
      15

      Nice, I've been praying for that for ages, that would be a huge pain for Sony since it's deadly unpatchable without a new SKU...
      Here come ban waves and remote bricks plus those lame and illegal Sony rootkits, they never learn their lesson that this is illegal and they have no way to defeat this law atleast.
      This (extensivelly) would also mean decryption of Cobra's payload if I'm correct, right?

    16. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      10:31 AM
      16

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      true but people will be able to use mfw builder to make it thats if i plugin comes out for that
      Yeah we're kinda stuck there's no way if the keys are revealed PSN Will be disabled.
      But a mans gotta hope, right?

    17. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      10:35 AM
      17

      Originally Posted by SmartLaughCOL
      Yeah we're kinda stuck there's no way if the keys are revealed PSN Will be disabled.
      But a mans gotta hope, right?
      yep . sony wont be able to ban by console id as we can change them . they would have to ban on the consoles mac address

    18. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      10:36 AM
      18

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      yep . sony wont be able to ban by console id as we can change them . they would have to ban on the consoles mac address
      till someones find a way to change them.

    19. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      10:39 AM
      19

      Originally Posted by SmartLaughCOL
      till someones find a way to change them.
      yep very true ,who knows what else we can do with the root keys as the ps3 will be fully open to a point

    20. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      10:40 AM
      20

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      yep very true ,who knows what else we can do with the root keys as the ps3 will be fully open to a point
      I totally agree and even if we can't change it we'll probably hear the word stealth a lot!

    21. Mistawes
      10-26-2011
      11:08 AM
      21

      Great news indeed, can't wait to see that more development in this!

    22. Pockets69
      10-26-2011
      01:37 PM
      22

      Great Great Great... well i am sorry jb2 but this just ruined your business...
      anyway will look at it closely, i already have my eid but yeah i just hope we can patch isoldr without using hardware mods.

    23. TheEvolution_PT
      10-26-2011
      01:48 PM
      23

      Pockets mete isto na primeira pagina j�! (j� vi que �s portugu�s tamb�m).
      BTW its my first time here,and i love ps3hax!
      This is the best news of the year, very good, now $ony can�t stop the hackers

    24. Pockets69
      10-26-2011
      01:49 PM
      24

      i can't front page it only news editors can...
      welcome to the forums.

    25. TheEvolution_PT
      10-26-2011
      01:51 PM
      25

      Originally Posted by Pockets69
      i can't front page it only news editors can...
      welcome to the forums.
      No Problem and thank you

    26. majid25
      10-26-2011
      01:54 PM
      26

      Originally Posted by Pockets69
      Great Great Great... well i am sorry jb2 but this just ruined your business...
      anyway will look at it closely, i already have my eid but yeah i just hope we can patch isoldr without using hardware mods.
      eid? hey pockets are you muslim?

    27. Pockets69
      10-26-2011
      01:58 PM
      27

      no majid i am not.

    28. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      02:01 PM
      28

      Originally Posted by majid25
      eid? hey pockets are you muslim?
      EID root key!

    29. zecoxao
      10-26-2011
      02:54 PM
      29

      +1 for herpaderp :P

      OT: Best news we've heard in a while, let's hope the rest of the keys can also be figured out(there are more necessary to fully decrypt eEID iirc), because if that happens, bye bye Sony my love :3

    30. majid25
      10-26-2011
      03:01 PM
      30

      lolll..Sorry im not aware of an "EID" is, just went ahead and read what I saw

    31. TheEvolution_PT
      10-26-2011
      03:06 PM
      31

      With this it�s possible to play 3.70+ games and go to psn for sure?
      This is great serioulys.

    32. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      03:11 PM
      32

      Originally Posted by majid25
      lolll..Sorry im not aware of an "EID" is, just went ahead and read what I saw
      No worries i know what you're thinking.

    33. zecoxao
      10-26-2011
      03:23 PM
      33

      Originally Posted by TheEvolution_PT
      With this it�s possible to play 3.70+ games and go to psn for sure?
      This is great serioulys.
      Let me put this clear for you, my portuguese friend... With Per_Console Keys, we can install a CFW on ANY firmware version, on ANY kind of console... Did that clarify you well enough ? :D

      Edit: I hope i'm saying right, but that's what i've heard...

    34. TheEvolution_PT
      10-26-2011
      03:29 PM
      34

      Originally Posted by zecoxao
      Let me put this clear for you, my portuguese friend... With Per_Console Keys, we can install a CFW on ANY firmware version, on ANY kind of console... Did that clarify you well enough ? :D

      Edit: I hope i'm saying right, but that's what i've heard...
      Yes Sir

    35. lunuxx
      10-26-2011
      03:35 PM
      35

      Y this no frontpaged????

    36. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      03:37 PM
      36

      Originally Posted by lunuxx
      Y this no frontpaged????
      because only News moderators [Greg, Pirate] can front page it and they're not online at the moment.

    37. OoZic
      10-26-2011
      03:41 PM
      37

      Originally Posted by zecoxao
      Let me put this clear for you, my portuguese friend... With Per_Console Keys, we can install a CFW on ANY firmware version, on ANY kind of console... Did that clarify you well enough ? :D

      Edit: I hope i'm saying right, but that's what i've heard...
      Take a look at the boot order and you know
      http://ps3devwiki.com/index.php?titl...Chain_of_Trust

    38. VIRGIN KLM
      10-26-2011
      03:51 PM
      38

      Originally Posted by zecoxao
      Let me put this clear for you, my portuguese friend... With Per_Console Keys, we can install a CFW on ANY firmware version, on ANY kind of console... Did that clarify you well enough ? :D

      Edit: I hope i'm saying right, but that's what i've heard...
      Actually if I am correct that's not 100% true since on the newer PS3 consoles Sony have guessed that this was about to happen someday, sooner or later for PS3's lifespan, and they implemented an extra ldr before the bootldr but I guess that could be reversable since it doesn't involve any kind of keys to get decrypted or somekind of an encryption, it's just an extra layer of DRM if you think of it. This may have defeated the downgrade issue but they are not really effective in the idea of rootkey bruteforcing. It may be needed some extra steps but since you would technically be able to make a 3.7x+ CFW the lower firmware idea would get defeated at day one.
      It's the first time that I'm actually intrugued how Sony is going to respond to this, since they cannot form any kind of TOS that covers that issue, and not being more retarded than the already applying one...
      -They are going to sue them? (I doubt the reverse engineerers would care less, plus this wouldnt be a solution since the hack would be already out in public)
      -Ban Hammer? (That's kind of obvious, not that anybody of us would care, but whatever)
      -Rootkit? (Since 2002 Sony caused with the ''Sony BMG incident'' the use of rootkits to be recognised officially as illegal in the market so if they do, they will face some painfully serious issues, so they won't bother with that solution)

      I'm so hyped, I hope this won't have the same fate as previous PS3 news, I'd be sooo sad, it's the perfect timing for such news.

    39. zecoxao
      10-26-2011
      03:52 PM
      39

      Yup, taken a note, bootldr is NOT updatable :D and can be decrypted with per-console keys... Good things coming up

    40. H3avyRa1n
      10-26-2011
      03:54 PM
      40

      this is excellent!

    41. Warning
      10-26-2011
      04:01 PM
      41

      No mater what. We are about 90% farther then we where yesterday.
      This is good stuff. Ps3Devwiki and anyone who ever contributed

    42. eliteforces
      10-26-2011
      04:16 PM
      42

      1. payloader3 create new possible source of or precompiled:

      payloader3-341.pkg: http://www.multiupload.com/MB7NE5AJYC
      payloader3-315.pkg: http://www.multiupload.com/JKKZG58NOR

      2. Install payloader3 pkg on the ps3

      3. export in the terminal set
      a. export PS3LOAD = tcp: ipaddress.of.ps3
      b. start socat (socat tcp-recv: 18194 stdout)

      4. payloader3 pkg start on ps3

      5. It is quite likely to see is not the picture (black screen) but you will hear a distinct sound (like C64) Now things are different feasible:

      a. X 4eck then starts with ps3load ethdebug
      b. then you will want to circle back to the xmb and invites ethdebug (for Debuging pkg files)

      6. Use your ps3load the mode used to send your ps3 dump_eid_root_key.self (ps3load dump_eid_root_key.self) Now you should see debug Teminal in your debugging and then hopefully you'll find the PCK .. (theoretically)
      Saw this on p$3n3ws...dont know why its censored

    43. Cheesethief
      10-26-2011
      04:24 PM
      43

      Sh1t got serious.

      Those packages are for 3.15 and 3.41.... I am guess this is more difficult for 3.55 or something?

    44. Pirate
      10-26-2011
      04:24 PM
      44

      Thanks for the news post, just got home and moved this to front page

    45. eliteforces
      10-26-2011
      04:28 PM
      45

      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      Sh1t got serious.

      Those packages are for 3.15 and 3.41.... I am guess this is more difficult for 3.55 or something?
      The devwiki says it is possible on 3.55MFW so I am guessing they just need to be rewritten for 3.55 or perhaps just resigned.

      I am not an expert though so I could be wrong.

    46. prodmaster100
      10-26-2011
      04:28 PM
      46

      Amazingly good news today has been such a great day

    47. hitamonkey
      10-26-2011
      04:29 PM
      47

      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      Sh1t got serious.

      Those packages are for 3.15 and 3.41.... I am guess this is more difficult for 3.55 or something?
      no idea how to do any of this, but i get what it does and what we're waiting for.

      but anyway, just because the pkgs aren't available for 3.55+, finding the per console key could be done on ANY FW up until 3.41 is what i've worked out. it doesn't matter because sony implemented the same security as it is hardware not FW.

      am i right? i don't know. that's what i'm getting from this.

    48. Cheesethief
      10-26-2011
      04:32 PM
      48

      Originally Posted by eliteforces
      The devwiki says it is possible on 3.55MFW so I am guessing they just need to be rewritten for 3.55 or perhaps just resigned.

      I am not an expert though so I could be wrong.
      I remember something about 3.55 pkg's needing to be signed unlike 3.41, so maybe it is that....

      Now comes the waiting game... Hard to be patient when this kind of news surfaces. I want to play me some Resistance 3 and BF3 on my PS3. XD

    49. fatboyj
      10-26-2011
      04:35 PM
      49

      Would this allow for all games to be played discless? I have a spare PS3 with lens broken so hoping to bypass and load direct off the HD and have this sitting in the bedroom for some midnight loving.

    50. TDMaster
      10-26-2011
      04:35 PM
      50

      this is a sad day for Sony ) and a great day for the rest of us )

    51. nomad098
      10-26-2011
      04:36 PM
      51

      i guess i wont have to buy jb2
      will wait and see what happens with this

    52. Cheesethief
      10-26-2011
      04:38 PM
      52

      I would rather throw $45 at these devs than at the JB2 guys.

    53. H3avyRa1n
      10-26-2011
      04:38 PM
      53

      Originally Posted by nomad098
      i guess i wont have to buy jb2
      will wait and see what happens with this
      who cares about jb2 anymore?

    54. aaron101
      10-26-2011
      04:41 PM
      54

      typical got bored of waiting and just bought a new ps3 to play batman and uncharted but hey if it comes its all good anyway

    55. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      04:42 PM
      55

      Originally Posted by zecoxao
      Let me put this clear for you, my portuguese friend... With Per_Console Keys, we can install a CFW on ANY firmware version, on ANY kind of console... Did that clarify you well enough ? :D

      Edit: I hope i'm saying right, but that's what i've heard...
      well not any console because you root key is per console and to be able to get the root key you would need to be on cfw , so ps3 on 3,56 fwabove this wont help , so this is only usefull to people on cfw . like i said many many times when and if a cfw above 3.56+ comes you will need to be on cfw becuase of the reason above . now e3 team gotta sort out there flasher can someone who downgrade can theyupdate to .3 73 cfw would it brick if it comes out .just saying for others as i got my cfw ps3 and ofw ps3

    56. TDMaster
      10-26-2011
      04:42 PM
      56

      so the per_console_key_0 is the mother of all keys in the PS3?

    57. yozh
      10-26-2011
      04:43 PM
      57

      lol, they waited until the Uncharted 3 release, to release their documentation, it says that it already has been tested with success, so i guess $0n4 and its PS3 are doomed again...

      cheers

    58. hitamonkey
      10-26-2011
      04:44 PM
      58

      Originally Posted by TDMaster
      so the per_console_key_0 is the mother of all keys in the PS3?
      yes.

      i think.
      unless anyone can correct me.

    59. papa1234
      10-26-2011
      04:46 PM
      59

      Hey to all devs ,,, get to it

    60. lebofly
      10-26-2011
      04:46 PM
      60

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      well not any console because you root key is per console and to be able to get the root key you would need to be on cfw , so ps3 on 3,56 fwabove this wont help , so this is only usefull to people on cfw . like i said many many times when and if a cfw above 3.56+ comes you will need to be on cfw becuase of the reason above . now e3 team gotta sort out there flasher can someone who downgrade can theyupdate to .3 73 cfw would it brick if it comes out .just saying for others as i got my cfw ps3 and ofw ps3
      Lets hope this information is as bad as your spelling :D (No offense)

    61. hitamonkey
      10-26-2011
      04:49 PM
      61

      couple things actually.

      1) so with the release of this info, i'm not asking for rushing or anything, but once a dev does the dumping, how long does the process actually take to get the key and create a CFW?

      2) would this enable game update pkgs too? or just retail games?

    62. 8E068EDFA0C8DEA3
      10-26-2011
      04:49 PM
      62

      this better not be yet another great new discovery that is forgotten in 2 weeks or so.

    63. TDMaster
      10-26-2011
      04:51 PM
      63

      as the keys will be released i wonder who will sony sue next since that what they do best..

    64. headsupkid01
      10-26-2011
      04:52 PM
      64

      So long True Blue, We hardly knew you.

    65. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      04:53 PM
      65

      Originally Posted by lebofly
      Lets hope this information is as bad as your spelling :D (No offense)
      im drunk on 2 litres of vodka

    66. PS3Ftw
      10-26-2011
      04:54 PM
      66

      We don't even need to wait for fixes.
      Well if this come quicker then the fixes lol.

    67. jc_gargma
      10-26-2011
      04:54 PM
      67

      Originally Posted by zecoxao
      Yup, taken a note, bootldr is NOT updatable :D and can be decrypted with per-console keys... Good things coming up
      Well, Sony could update it, but only with a hardware revision and a Cyanide pill, as it would be an unprecedented media disaster to announce to all owners of PS3 models made prior to the revision that they are no longer able to play new games unless they buy a new model.

      Either way, the PS3 era is over for Sony.

    68. gmitesh90
      10-26-2011
      04:54 PM
      68

      UNCHARTED 3 IM COMING TO BUY YOU!!!!!

    69. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      04:56 PM
      69

      Originally Posted by hitamonkey
      couple things actually.

      1) so with the release of this info, i'm not asking for rushing or anything, but once a dev does the dumping, how long does the process actually take to get the key and create a CFW?

      2) would this enable game update pkgs too? or just retail games?
      you would have to create the fw you self because the rootkey is per console no key is the same so they would have to tell you how to get the key them use it to make a cfw your self . maybe there be a plugin for mfw builder to add you key kust have to wait and see

    70. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      04:56 PM
      70

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      im drunk on 2 litres of vodka
      Sportsmanship !

    71. PS3Ftw
      10-26-2011
      04:57 PM
      71

      Great chance to be sued they have already given their factory for selling jb2.
      The cfw needs a new name without owner if they don't want to get famous like geohot.

    72. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      04:59 PM
      72

      Originally Posted by PS3Ftw
      Great chance to be sued they have already given their factory for selling jb2.
      The cfw needs a new name without owner if they don't want to get famous like geohot.
      Just like [MENTION=51782]carldenning[/MENTION] you'll have to make the CFW yourself because every PS3 have it's own key!

    73. jbald
      10-26-2011
      05:00 PM
      73

      well i'm really waiting for that keys! but looking for other point and starting a discussion: with all FW unlocked it is interesting for game producers release new titles to ps3 platform since theirs profit will theoretically decrease?

    74. hitamonkey
      10-26-2011
      05:00 PM
      74

      okay and once it's released do we know if getting the key will be newbie friendly?

      or do we not know UNTIL it's released?

    75. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      05:01 PM
      75

      Originally Posted by jbald
      well i'm really waiting for that keys! but looking for other point and starting a discussion: with all FW unlocked it is interesting for game producers release new titles to ps3 platform since theirs profit will theoretically decrease?
      They still produce X360 Games don't they.

    76. mosstopher
      10-26-2011
      05:01 PM
      76

      Originally Posted by jc_gargma
      Well, Sony could update it, but only with a hardware revision and a Cyanide pill, as it would be an unprecedented media disaster to announce to all owners of PS3 models made prior to the revision that they are no longer able to play new games unless they buy a new model.

      Either way, the PS3 era is over for Sony.
      This is bloody fantastic news an all, but I think it may just be a little early to be expecting the world.

      I remember when the PS3 was originally hacked people were saying the same things, yet I still see a lot of people waiting for 3.6+ CFW. The "scene" is a game of cat and mouse I'm sure Sony will have something up their sleeves for the future, which will in turn lead to new methods. Rinse and repeat.

      Don't get me wrong, I hope this is a long term thing but I wont be surprised if it isn't. Either way, fantastic news atm.

    77. TDMaster
      10-26-2011
      05:01 PM
      77

      so in order to make a CFW the end user need to find the per_console_key 0 and use it?

    78. the_phenom
      10-26-2011
      05:02 PM
      78

      A minha noite acabou de ficar melhor :D !!!
      Fantastic news...i've been in here all days praying for this awesome news...

    79. yozh
      10-26-2011
      05:07 PM
      79

      Originally Posted by TDMaster
      so in order to make a CFW the end user need to find the per_console_key 0 and use it?
      Yes, ppl will have to build its own firmware with its unique console key, correct me if im wrong but if you use a key that its not your console�s, your ps3 most likely will brick!

    80. scottydog
      10-26-2011
      05:08 PM
      80

      I dont want to be the bringer of bad news but we dont have the keys And lets not write of sony's resistance as they could enclose it all in an encrypted shell or another layer. I want the keys and be able to own my ps3 but i wont hold my breath

    81. jc_gargma
      10-26-2011
      05:09 PM
      81

      Originally Posted by mosstopher
      This is bloody fantastic news an all, but I think it may just be a little early to be expecting the world.

      I remember when the PS3 was originally hacked people were saying the same things, yet I still see a lot of people waiting for 3.6+ CFW. The "scene" is a game of cat and mouse I'm sure Sony will have something up their sleeves for the future, which will in turn lead to new methods. Rinse and repeat.

      Don't get me wrong, I hope this is a long term thing but I wont be surprised if it isn't. Either way, fantastic news atm.
      Quite. I was abit overzealous with my last sentence (I was actually going to edit it out, but you quoted me first, lol,) but, if this allows said Master Keys, then Sony has no way to repair the damage, short of the Cyanide pill, or announcing the discontinuation of the PS3 and the launch of the PS4.

    82. yozh
      10-26-2011
      05:12 PM
      82

      Originally Posted by scottydog
      I dont want to be the bringer of bad news but we dont have the keys And lets not write of sony's resistance as they could enclose it all in an encrypted shell or another layer. I want the keys and be able to own my ps3 but i wont hold my breath
      dude, its not a universal key, its your key, this documentation is to get your own console key, so if you want a 3.5x+ firmware you better read and learn.

    83. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      05:13 PM
      83

      Originally Posted by scottydog
      I dont want to be the bringer of bad news but we dont have the keys And lets not write of sony's resistance as they could enclose it all in an encrypted shell or another layer. I want the keys and be able to own my ps3 but i wont hold my breath
      Read the headline it's How to dump the PS3 Per Console Key Released so if you want you can get them yourself

    84. TDMaster
      10-26-2011
      05:13 PM
      84

      Originally Posted by scottydog
      I dont want to be the bringer of bad news but we dont have the keys And lets not write of sony's resistance as they could enclose it all in an encrypted shell or another layer. I want the keys and be able to own my ps3 but i wont hold my breath
      since u find the key on 3.41 or 3.15 which sony cant change..
      and after u find the root key.
      going from bottom to top is more easy..

    85. ssvetec
      10-26-2011
      05:14 PM
      85

      Does it get better than this? A week or so and nearly 800 posts of JB2 rubbish and drivel...then all of a sudden, this. Now all of a sudden, the folks behind JB2 have basically a bunch of pointless usb keys.

      Note to JB2: Don't phuck with the scene. If you can hit, the scene can hit harder.

    86. scottydog
      10-26-2011
      05:16 PM
      86

      wasnt the per console key something recently added by sony like 3.6* firmwares. that could be access restricted in later firmwares thats what i mean soz if im wrong

    87. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      05:17 PM
      87

      Originally Posted by yozh
      Yes, ppl will have to build its own firmware with its unique console key, correct me if im wrong but if you use a key that its not your console�s, your ps3 most likely will brick!
      probely or more than like your ps3 wont acept the fw because it not the right key etc so it will fail when you update

    88. TDMaster
      10-26-2011
      05:19 PM
      88

      Originally Posted by scottydog
      wasnt the per console key something recently added by sony like 3.6* firmwares. that could be access restricted in later firmwares thats what i mean soz if im wrong
      per_console_key 0 is to find the decryption of the "root"

      metldr is decrypted with this key
      bootldr is decrypted with this key

    89. Se�or_Striatum
      10-26-2011
      05:23 PM
      89

      Sounds like Sony's going to have to bust a$$ on getting their ps4 up and running if they want complete control again after we get our own keys. I like the idea of having a procedure to obtain your own unique key to play these games. This way you cant be a demanding idiot because the only one who can help yourself will pretty much be yourself (aside from the devs who lay the ground work). Now people can get a very small feel for what devs have to go through. Might humble some folks.

    90. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      05:26 PM
      90

      Originally Posted by Se�or_Striatum
      Sounds like Sony's going to have to bust a$$ on getting their ps4 up and running if they want complete control again after we get our own keys. I like the idea of having a procedure to obtain your own unique key to play these games. This way you cant be a demanding idiot because the only one who can help yourself will pretty much be yourself (aside from the devs who lay the ground work). Now people can get a very small feel for what devs have to go through. Might humble some folks.
      A very very very very small feel.

    91. oPolo
      10-26-2011
      05:27 PM
      91

      Just like [MENTION=51782]carldenning[/MENTION] you'll have to make the CFW yourself because every PS3 have it's own key!

      Sure about that? Would they not be able to use the console specific keys, to achieve the global keys needed for CFW's, since they can decrypt them, with the console specific ones..?

    92. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      05:29 PM
      92

      Originally Posted by oPolo
      Just like [MENTION=51782]carldenning[/MENTION] you'll have to make the CFW yourself because every PS3 have it's own key!

      Sure about that? Would they not be able to use the console specific keys, to achieve the global keys needed for CFW's, since they can decrypt them, with the console specific ones..?
      again Because every console have it's own [FROM THE FACTORY] key!

    93. Warning
      10-26-2011
      05:29 PM
      93

      Originally Posted by oPolo
      Just like [MENTION=51782]carldenning[/MENTION] you'll have to make the CFW yourself because every PS3 have it's own key!

      Sure about that? Would they not be able to use the console specific keys, to achieve the global keys needed for CFW's, since they can decrypt them, with the console specific ones..?
      that is what i understand. Only one person would have to do this to get 3.60+
      keys

    94. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      05:33 PM
      94

      Originally Posted by Warning
      that is what i understand. Only one person would have to do this to get 3.60+
      keys
      That's when it comes to the metldr, appldr etc but this is the per_console_key

    95. steve30x
      10-26-2011
      05:33 PM
      95

      Great news. I will hopefully be buying a PS3 in a few weeks and want to run my legit GT5 directly from the HDD.

    96. Cage
      10-26-2011
      05:34 PM
      96

      I am pretty sure that if you care only about playing single player games once everything is cracked a custom bootloader/eboots can be made that will work on 3.55 Kmeaw with tweaking.

      However if you want to have "everything" and 3.7X+ CFW you'll have to get your own specific root/master key.

      Still this is groundbreaking news and everything else is just a matter of time."True Blue" or whatever is absolutely uselss compared to this news.

    97. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      05:34 PM
      97

      Originally Posted by steve30x
      Great news. I will hopefully be buying a PS3 in a few weeks and want to run my legit GT5 directly from the HDD.
      Don't buy a one with +356 FW BASE

    98. yozh
      10-26-2011
      05:35 PM
      98

      Originally Posted by oPolo
      Just like [MENTION=51782]carldenning[/MENTION] you'll have to make the CFW yourself because every PS3 have it's own key!

      Sure about that? Would they not be able to use the console specific keys, to achieve the global keys needed for CFW's, since they can decrypt them, with the console specific ones..?
      i dont think sony stored its private key in the ps3 again, that would be totally noob, i understand that console key stands for actually CELL processor key, which decrypts METLDR and BOOTLOADER, for a 3.6x firmware without getting your console key you would need the private key to sign the firmware, again i dont think sony stored it inside the ps3... again correct me if im wrong, just getting into this...

    99. stevorkz
      10-26-2011
      05:35 PM
      99

      WHAT DID I SAY??? WHAT DID I SAY??? I said to everyone wanting to buy the JB2 DONT! I hate dongles! Just a bunch of people that wanna charge for the flow of information. How different are they to sony if you think of it.

      So bottom line...in otherwords...we will sooner or later be able to play any ps3 game out there and there is nothing sony can do about it as far as implementing a new firmware is concerned?

      Ok I know console key is unique to every console but im sure it isnt too difficult for our awesome team of devs to come up with a way to implement our key into a firmware.Theyve done awesome things as it is

      Can someone confirm this? Sorry if Ive misunderstood. Kinda half asleep

    100. EmBoLa.be
      10-26-2011
      05:38 PM
      100

      So what's the next thing???
      ok so first ppl need to dumpt there OWN root key,
      the use the latest ofw, say 3.72, and use MFW to merge in the root key
      install the cfw you made, and bam, you would enjoy psn and NEW games,

      can this be done allready, or do we have to wait for something??

    101. pereb27
      10-26-2011
      05:42 PM
      101

      Don't want to ruin the mood but... as far as I've read, bootldr is encrypted with TWO keys, the root key (obtainable with this method) and a static key (not obtainable with this method, and even harder if not impossible to obtain), and even with the root key, you still can't do anything since you don't have the second key?

      Besides, obtaining the root key was done a while ago, we just didn't have ready-to-use tools released to the public.

      I would love to be proven wrong though :P

    102. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      05:43 PM
      102

      Originally Posted by yozh
      i dont think sony stored its private key in the ps3 again, that would be totally noob, i understand that console key stands for actually CELL processor key, which decrypts METLDR and BOOTLOADER, for a 3.6x firmware without getting your console key you would need the private key to sign the firmware, again i dont think sony stored it inside the ps3... again correct me if im wrong, just getting into this...
      you use use the root key to fully decpted the fw eg 3.73 ofw then u sign it with the 3,55 keys then you got cfw 3.73 hence why u need to be on cfw to get your root key in the 1st place so you ps3 will accect the new fw " thats the short version too drunk to tell u the inside and out on the other stuff that need to be sorted 1st to get mutiman etc working but you catch my dirft

    103. depblkman
      10-26-2011
      05:43 PM
      103

      wow. Christmas in October!!! lol

    104. Elyssion
      10-26-2011
      05:44 PM
      104

      Yeah, we are always so near, we are gonna conquer the world,
      Like this time, in june:
      http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=24229

      And at the end of the day... nothing.

    105. Juicepants
      10-26-2011
      05:51 PM
      105

      To get new versions of CFW someone would get the 3.60+ keys from their root, key, then decrypt the latest firmware.pup then resign them with the 3.55 keys so that those of us on 3.55 could upgrade to a later version.

      It's highly unlikely anyone will bother going through that much work considering they could just get the public keys to decrypt 3.60+ eboots, modify them and play it on existing 3.55 firmware like 3.41 CFW. Then we would still be able to downgrade an QA flag freely.

      3.55 CFW could get back on PSN if they used to public keys to get the new XI-passphrase but I think most devs would refrain from doing that considering it would draw the evil crab's sight even faster.

      In short it means that you'd still need a PS3 on <=3.55 or a hardware flasher. Good luck to anyone in their endeavour finding their root key!

    106. eliteforces
      10-26-2011
      05:52 PM
      106

      Originally Posted by Elyssion
      Yeah, we are always so near, we are gonna conquer the world,
      Like this time, in june:
      http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=24229

      And at the end of the day... nothing.
      Well git brew never actually released what the exploit was that they were working on. The steps to get the per console key are all there (I believe), you just have to apply them by doing some work on your end. I am by no means a dev though, but im sure one of the devs frequenting this board or others will do it and let us know how to as well.

    107. SquaLLio
      10-26-2011
      05:53 PM
      107

      I realize it's probably too early to tell, but theoretically, could this help restore access to PSN? If our CFW matched the latest OFW, I assume we could connect to PSN, but what's stopping Sony from detecting and swiftly banning?

    108. Narcarsiss
      10-26-2011
      05:56 PM
      108

      not sure if i missed anything here but do they want me to give them my consol keys? im happy to do it but i didnot quite understand how.

    109. Owanef
      10-26-2011
      05:58 PM
      109

      what about the people that are on ofw 3.65 or ofw 3.6x and 3.7x.
      HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD WE FIND OUR ROOT KEYS??????

    110. TangoDown
      10-26-2011
      05:59 PM
      110

      we are almost there! gogo developers!

    111. hitamonkey
      10-26-2011
      06:00 PM
      111

      Originally Posted by Owanef
      what about the people that are on ofw 3.65 or ofw 3.6x and 3.7x.
      HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD WE FIND OUR ROOT KEYS??????
      errrrrrrr. awkward.

      you wouldn't.

      EDIT: oh yeah. downgrade. hahahaha. don't know why i completely ignored this.

    112. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      06:02 PM
      112

      Originally Posted by Owanef
      what about the people that are on ofw 3.65 or ofw 3.6x and 3.7x.
      HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD WE FIND OUR ROOT KEYS??????
      downgrade to 3.55 !
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by Juicepants
      To get new versions of CFW someone would get the 3.60+ keys from their root, key,
      !
      the root keys wont get them keys the root keys with just decpyte the fw so we can sign it with 3,55 because we cant decpted the .pkg in the fw with out any key or the root key all the keys we know isto sign is blocked by sony aprt fromn the root key wich they cant blocked because if they did evey ps3 would be blocked from updating , sont cant blocked the root key nor can they change it unless they change the hardware on every ps3 in the world

    113. TDMaster
      10-26-2011
      06:10 PM
      113

      so in basic words ...
      3.XX OFW + 3.55 Keys = 3.XX CFW?
      that what the Root key can do ?

    114. stussy1
      10-26-2011
      06:12 PM
      114

      lol so sony are screawed i can see the prices of 3.55 ps3 and lower goin up in price

    115. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      06:15 PM
      115

      Originally Posted by TDMaster
      so in basic words ...
      3.XX OFW + 3.55 Keys = 3.XX CFW?
      that what the Root key can do ?
      correct . 3.55 cfw + root keys mean cfw for ever also mean all games for what ever fw will work . new ofw comes out u make new cfw of the same version .

    116. hackoncrack
      10-26-2011
      06:15 PM
      116

      LMAO at people that ran out the door to buy JB2!

      Don't ever pay for homebrew, that's not what it's suppose to be about. You wanna make money?? Then go do it the right way instead of some stupid JB2 get rich quick scheme! I really hope they put alot of money into making those because their losses will serve them right.

      The *******s steals Sony's coding and try to make money off of it and the people who bought that thing rewarded them for being pieces of ****.

      You wanna know what will bring the hammer down on the scene?? Dumbasses like JB2 that attract unwanted attention!

    117. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      06:15 PM
      117

      Originally Posted by TDMaster
      so in basic words ...
      3.XX OFW + 3.55 Keys = 3.XX CFW?
      that what the Root key can do ?
      correct . 3.55 cfw + root keys mean cfw forever .also mean all games for what ever fw will work . new ofw comes out u make new cfw of the same version .

    118. Owanef
      10-26-2011
      06:16 PM
      118

      what about the people that are on ofw 3.65 or ofw 3.6x and 3.7x.
      HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD WE FIND OUR ROOT KEYS??????

      how can i possibly downgrade without spending any money???

    119. mosstopher
      10-26-2011
      06:16 PM
      119

      Originally Posted by TDMaster
      so in basic words ...
      3.XX OFW + 3.55 Keys = 3.XX CFW?
      that what the Root key can do ?
      Seems to be a case of wait and see at the mo. A lot of "facts" in this thread seem to be not much more than opinion and (educated) guesses.

    120. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      06:17 PM
      120

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      correct . 3.55 cfw + root keys mean cfw forever .also mean all games for what ever fw will work . new ofw comes out u make new cfw of the same version .
      wtf why it printed this twice i dunno . dame i need to lay of the vodka

    121. Cheesethief
      10-26-2011
      06:20 PM
      121

      Originally Posted by Owanef
      what about the people that are on ofw 3.65 or ofw 3.6x and 3.7x.
      HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD WE FIND OUR ROOT KEYS??????

      how can i possibly downgrade without spending any money???
      From what I understand, average joe would not have to get his per console keys. If a dev gets a OFW, decrypts it (using these keys), makes a cfw of it and signs it with 3.55 keys then average joe can install the cfw...... Am I following this correctly?

    122. Ray305
      10-26-2011
      06:22 PM
      122

      Good job to all the developers who used their time on this project! When sony finds out it will fully unlock the PS3 and allow CFW for most of the firmwares they will freak out.

    123. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      06:22 PM
      123

      Originally Posted by Owanef
      what about the people that are on ofw 3.65 or ofw 3.6x and 3.7x.
      HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD WE FIND OUR ROOT KEYS??????

      how can i possibly downgrade without spending any money???
      you cant . u got 2 option downgrade via hard ware = money or get ps3 on 3,55 or below = money , it has been known and told 2 have both worlds u need 2 ps3 1 on ofw and 1 on cfw . same as thew next cfw u need 3.55 be on as it been told unless u ask sony nicely for there keys

    124. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      06:25 PM
      124

      Hate to disappoint yah all but this is been on the wiki since august so i'm starting to think there's noting new

    125. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      06:27 PM
      125

      Originally Posted by SmartLaughCOL
      Hate to disappoint yah all but this is been on the wiki since august so i'm starting to think there's noting new
      from what i seen it got updated today with this info maybe im wrong

    126. hamtah
      10-26-2011
      06:30 PM
      126

      Originally Posted by SmartLaughCOL
      Hate to disappoint yah all but this is been on the wiki since august so i'm starting to think there's noting new
      Actually it got updated today:

      Code:
      (cur | prev)  19:28, 26 October 2011 FiniteElement (Talk | contribs) (3,419 bytes) (you have all you need already ;-) just read carefully (compare option2 code with the kernel module code)) (undo)
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    127. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      06:32 PM
      127

      Originally Posted by hamtah
      Actually it got updated today.
      Maybe a spelling fix xD

      Moogie said it was edited to show a way to obtain it even tough it was straight forward

    128. yozh
      10-26-2011
      06:32 PM
      128

      Originally Posted by SmartLaughCOL
      Hate to disappoint yah all but this is been on the wiki since august so i'm starting to think there's noting new
      This page was last modified on 26 October 2011, at 19:28.
      This page has been accessed 5,923 times.
      Content is available under GNU Free Documentation License 1.2.

      Comments
      What this selfs do is dump your ISOLATED SPU LS through your mbox, so you only need a way to cach this info with PPU code in lv2 enviroment aka a dongle payload or linux kernel
      This has been tested and proven to work on 3.55 MFW
      In the dump the remaining dump is the metldr clear code. metldr clears itself and all the registers an jumps to isoldr.
      Overwritting that code lets you dump your key + metldr
      lol i dont think so, before was just definition of what is per console key, this all stuff is fresh oven

    129. aarisaanig
      10-26-2011
      06:35 PM
      129

      i am so excited ^_^

    130. Zara
      10-26-2011
      06:35 PM
      130

      Originally Posted by SmartLaughCOL
      Hate to disappoint yah all but this is been on the wiki since august so i'm starting to think there's noting new
      Exactly. I don't think there's another forum in the world that gets hyped up this fast over THEORETICAL POSSIBILITY OF OBTAINING A CERTAIN THING THAT WILL THEORETICALLY ALLOW OBTAINING ANOTHER THING WHICH WILL THEORETICALLY FIX EVERYTHING.

      Once a month (on average) there's big news like this, all sensational and bombastic, claiming to solve the fact that we're still on 3.55 and even solve the world hunger along the way too, people get excited for a few days, thus creating the illusion that something is actually happening and guess what? We're still on 3.55 today and I still haven't opened my Portal 2.

      I don't want to sound like an ass but I really don't understand why people get excited over things as "abstract" as this.

    131. Elyssion
      10-26-2011
      06:39 PM
      131

      Stop the hype and sentationalism, this is not something new according to:

      http://173.255.232.215/logs/efnet/ps3dev/2011-10-26

    132. EmBoLa.be
      10-26-2011
      06:40 PM
      132

      i allready completed portal 2, rage and battlefield 3, but that's on pc,
      On Topic, just whait for a few weeks or months,
      or like other ppl say's, get e seocnd ps3 and use that for ofw, or buy a jtagged xbox360
      or a decent high end pc, for just 400 bucks, amd offcoarse

    133. wallygamer
      10-26-2011
      06:40 PM
      133

      Sorry, sorry, sorry- but I am the dumbest of all ps3 newbies. I am 66 yrs old and not a hacker, hence the stupid question.

      I just purchased a refurbed ps3 6gb from GameStop (expecting an older system software issue). Unfortunately it is upgraded to 3.72. So my stupid question is: Will the decryption of the keys eventually lead to hacking system 3.72?

    134. Cheesethief
      10-26-2011
      06:41 PM
      134

      Originally Posted by wallygamer
      Sorry, sorry, sorry- but I am the dumbest of all ps3 newbies. I am 66 yrs old and not a hacker, hence the stupid question.

      I just purchased a refurbed ps3 6gb from GameStop (expecting an older system software issue). Unfortunately it is upgraded to 3.72. So my stupid question is: Will the decryption of the keys eventually lead to hacking system 3.72?
      It could. The key word is could.

    135. hamtah
      10-26-2011
      06:42 PM
      135

      Originally Posted by Zara
      Exactly. I don't think there's another forum in the world that gets hyped up this fast over THEORETICAL POSSIBILITY OF OBTAINING A CERTAIN THING THAT WILL THEORETICALLY ALLOW OBTAINING ANOTHER THING WHICH WILL THEORETICALLY FIX EVERYTHING.

      Once a month (on average) there's big news like this, all sensational and bombastic, claiming to solve the fact that we're still on 3.55 and even solve the world hunger along the way too, people get excited for a few days, thus creating the illusion that something is actually happening and guess what? We're still on 3.55 today and I still haven't opened my Portal 2.

      I don't want to sound like an ass but I really don't understand why people get excited over things as "abstract" as this.
      Well then, back to 'True Blue'.

      The scene will never advance!

    136. gregory2590
      10-26-2011
      06:44 PM
      136

      130+ posts within 10 hours?

      That's how you know this **** is good news.


      on a related note:


      YES

      EDIT: *reads thread*

      dammit guys

    137. Cheesethief
      10-26-2011
      06:45 PM
      137

      Originally Posted by Zara
      Exactly. I don't think there's another forum in the world that gets hyped up this fast over THEORETICAL POSSIBILITY OF OBTAINING A CERTAIN THING THAT WILL THEORETICALLY ALLOW OBTAINING ANOTHER THING WHICH WILL THEORETICALLY FIX EVERYTHING.

      Once a month (on average) there's big news like this, all sensational and bombastic, claiming to solve the fact that we're still on 3.55 and even solve the world hunger along the way too, people get excited for a few days, thus creating the illusion that something is actually happening and guess what? We're still on 3.55 today and I still haven't opened my Portal 2.

      I don't want to sound like an ass but I really don't understand why people get excited over things as "abstract" as this.
      I hate to disappoint you, but take a look, this was posted on the last page:
      This page was last modified on 26 October 2011, at 19:28.
      This page has been accessed 5,923 times.
      Content is available under GNU Free Documentation License 1.2.

      Comments
      What this selfs do is dump your ISOLATED SPU LS through your mbox, so you only need a way to cach this info with PPU code in lv2 enviroment aka a dongle payload or linux kernel
      This has been tested and proven to work on 3.55 MFW
      In the dump the remaining dump is the metldr clear code. metldr clears itself and all the registers an jumps to isoldr.
      Overwritting that code lets you dump your key + metldr

    138. jdtamimi
      10-26-2011
      06:47 PM
      138

      I'm not getting my hopes up but I'm loving the news

    139. yozh
      10-26-2011
      06:49 PM
      139

      Originally Posted by Elyssion
      Stop the hype and sentationalism, this is not something new according to:

      http://173.255.232.215/logs/efnet/ps3dev/2011-10-26
      uhmmm well thats harsh lol lets wait and see...
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      I hate to disappoint you, but take a look, this was posted on the last page:
      yeah oh well we will have to keep waiting...

    140. Zara
      10-26-2011
      06:52 PM
      140

      Originally Posted by EmBoLa.be
      i allready completed portal 2, rage and battlefield 3, but that's on pc,
      On Topic, just whait for a few weeks or months,
      or like other ppl say's, get e seocnd ps3 and use that for ofw, or buy a jtagged xbox360
      or a decent high end pc, for just 400 bucks, amd offcoarse
      I completed Portal 2 on PC too but that's not the point. I also got tired of waiting and got a 360 for Dark Souls, Skyrim and a few other games but that's ALSO not the point.

      The point is, I read "Christmas is coming" atleast once a month for the last... 6 months? And somehow it just can't get here. THAT'S the point.

      And screw True Blue, I'm never bying that ****.

    141. bigo93
      10-26-2011
      06:56 PM
      141

      It's some good news but how many here have their PS3 set up in order to get dumps from it?

      This is so far only the console keys, and each console has it's own key, so if this does lead to something someone will have to make a user-friendly tutorial in order for newbs and noobs to get their own console key in order to use it.

      And who know how long it'll take to get them decrypted, we could be waiting months.

    142. hadivelko
      10-26-2011
      06:57 PM
      142

      can this news help in decrypting games eboot bin's?

    143. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      06:58 PM
      143

      Originally Posted by wallygamer
      Sorry, sorry, sorry- but I am the dumbest of all ps3 newbies. I am 66 yrs old and not a hacker, hence the stupid question.

      I just purchased a refurbed ps3 6gb from GameStop (expecting an older system software issue). Unfortunately it is upgraded to 3.72. So my stupid question is: Will the decryption of the keys eventually lead to hacking system 3.72?
      to a point yes but u need to be on 3.55 to be able 2 use it

    144. chrisrlink
      10-26-2011
      06:59 PM
      144

      btw if we have a guy with root cant he decrypt the 3.7x+ ofw making new cfw if im not mistaking?

    145. depblkman
      10-26-2011
      07:00 PM
      145

      Originally Posted by Elyssion
      Stop the hype and sentationalism, this is not something new according to:

      http://173.255.232.215/logs/efnet/ps3dev/2011-10-26
      great. logs from the geek squad.

      so many people in here will be in the download CFW band wagon once this is tested and proven to work. these same people who don't give new info a chance to breathe before having something negative to say about it will be the same ones saying "see? i told you it would work".

      Let's give all new info a chance to be proven before shooting it.

    146. chrisrlink
      10-26-2011
      07:00 PM
      146

      sorry question answered

    147. hamtah
      10-26-2011
      07:01 PM
      147

      Originally Posted by Elyssion
      Stop the hype and sentationalism, this is not something new according to:

      http://173.255.232.215/logs/efnet/ps3dev/2011-10-26
      What I got from that log:

      -The news is old, has been posted since August
      -This new "edit" is basically a way of obtaining the per_console key, we still have to find a way to decrypt it
      -Even if this does get cracked, there are still a couple of other steps involved to entirely crack the PS3
      -99.8% of the PS3 scene are not devs, are dumb, retards, and don't know how to read or post news when it comes out
      -These guys are very harsh, and like to joke about everything (half their jokes makes me seem like I'm reading a IRC log with 11-year olds talking)

      We're going to have to see what becomes of this.

    148. wallygamer
      10-26-2011
      07:01 PM
      148

      Originally Posted by chrisrlink
      btw if we have a guy with root cant he decrypt the 3.7x+ ofw making new cfw if im not mistaking?
      That's what I am hoping for.....

    149. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      07:10 PM
      149

      Originally Posted by chrisrlink
      btw if we have a guy with root cant he decrypt the 3.7x+ ofw making new cfw if im not mistaking?
      yes but u need to be on 3,.55 to install it becuse 3.56+ ofw our keys that we will sign it with are blocked on them ofw

    150. Owanef
      10-26-2011
      07:26 PM
      150

      what about the people that are on ofw 3.65 or ofw 3.6x and 3.7x.
      HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD WE FIND OUR ROOT KEYS??????

      i hope they make a downgrade with this so that we don't have to flash our hardware and open up our ps3.
      JUST A REGULAR SYSTEM UPDATE VIA USB WITH SOME FILES THAT WILL TRICK THE PS3 INTO SAYING INSTALL 3.55 OFW OR, UP INSTEAD OF 3.65 OR UP.

    151. Dominic1800
      10-26-2011
      07:29 PM
      151

      i really hope this leads to a new cfw..because i want to play madden 12 and uncharted 3 so bad...and no i can't afford another ps3. Thank you so much devs for all your hard work!!!!!!!!!!!

    152. kixiximen
      10-26-2011
      07:34 PM
      152

      that are on ofw 3.7x...The path is closed !!!!!! fail
      I was hoping

    153. Dominic1800
      10-26-2011
      07:35 PM
      153

      and any news forward is god news.

    154. mximposter
      10-26-2011
      07:37 PM
      154

      greatt , but im on 3.66 boooh, just in case downloasdin bf3

    155. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      07:41 PM
      155

      Originally Posted by Owanef
      what about the people that are on ofw 3.65 or ofw 3.6x and 3.7x.
      HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD WE FIND OUR ROOT KEYS??????

      i hope they make a downgrade with this so that we don't have to flash our hardware and open up our ps3.
      JUST A REGULAR SYSTEM UPDATE VIA USB WITH SOME FILES THAT WILL TRICK THE PS3 INTO SAYING INSTALL 3.55 OFW OR, UP INSTEAD OF 3.65 OR UP.
      keep on dreaming


      OK PEOPLE IF YOUR ON 3.56+ THIS IS USELESS TO YOU !!!!!!!

      its for people on 3.55 or below no if or buts just 3,55 or below

    156. Se�or_Striatum
      10-26-2011
      07:44 PM
      156

      Just got home and gave this a more in depth look. So from what I understand we need per_console_root_key_0 but what we have been able to obtain is per_console_root_key_1 and key_2. So key_1 is derived from key 0. PS3devwiki.com says key_1 is used to derive further keys. So correct me if I am wrong, but it is speculated that we can get key_0 only with the assumption that the algorithm or process used to create the derivatives of key_1 is the same as the process used to create key_1 from key_0? If Sony was concerned with applying as much security as possible, which compared to other consoles has been the case aside from their network, it can be assumed that they would use different processes so that metldr and bootldr can remain encrypted.

      Regarding the following:

      "you can already use the crafted key to decrypt some of eid0, but not all of it. and the crafted key also uses the first elf section to be built as in your isolated module will have a small section which only contains a key. and that key is used as another layer by isoldr to encrypt the buffer with it."

      So from what I understand we can only decrypt some of eid0 with key_1 but need another key to decrpyt the rest. Is there any speculation that we can get that key and if so what will be achieved once we decrypt edi0 in it's entirety?

    157. Pirate
      10-26-2011
      07:46 PM
      157

      Update: Please understand that this method is for dumping per_console_key_1, and per_console_key_n. In order to get CFW we need to dump per_console_key_0.

      Read more: http://www.ps3hax.net/2011/10/how-to...#ixzz1bwFzvR7O

    158. Owanef
      10-26-2011
      07:51 PM
      158

      for the poeple on ofw 3.6x and 3.7x DEVS WE ARE SCREAMING YOUR NAMES HELP US.

    159. Phreeq
      10-26-2011
      07:52 PM
      159

      What EXACTLY can we do with just this?

    160. mximposter
      10-26-2011
      07:55 PM
      160

      DAMN IM ON 3.66 so ill have to update to play MW3

    161. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      07:55 PM
      161

      Originally Posted by Phreeq
      What EXACTLY can we do with just this?
      makes your ps3 transform in to a xbox lol

    162. Cheesethief
      10-26-2011
      07:56 PM
      162

      Originally Posted by Phreeq
      What EXACTLY can we do with just this?
      Average joe? Nothing. Developers? Delve further int he attempt to find key 0.

    163. gambaownsu
      10-26-2011
      08:00 PM
      163

      hey hey

      Developers - its your time to make a name of yourself - you know e-fame, be as huge as geohot - to be the Dark_Alex of this scene forever. Seize the opportunity!!!

      Just kidding. Let's watch the match between developers vs JB2 hackers. Grab the popcorn - it shall be glorious.

    164. BobbyBangin
      10-26-2011
      08:35 PM
      164

      Viva la R�sistance!

    165. Qraze1
      10-26-2011
      08:51 PM
      165

      noob question.

      if i can update from fw3.55 to fw3.70+ wouldn't that mean the 3.55 keys are still working to decrypt fw3.70+ from the hdd? can't we patch something to allow the unencrypted fw path to change to an ext means?

      can't we work that out to how to dump the unencrypted fw to something else then see the changes made? geohot said he used linux, on 3.15 to give us the 3.55 keys. how did he do that......

      i know that bootloader and mtldr can't be patched, right? but can't we create a clone of bootloader or mtldr using hardware and software and then use it to dump (fw,keys) in a location we specify? its not patched, its just redirected to a hacked clone of mtldr/bootlaoder.

    166. Sidewinder_2011
      10-26-2011
      09:04 PM
      166

      Originally Posted by Qraze1
      noob question.

      if i can update from fw3.55 to fw3.70+ wouldn't that mean the 3.55 keys are still working to decrypt fw3.70+ from the hdd? can't we patch something to allow the unencrypted fw path to change to an ext means?

      can't we work that out to how to dump the unencrypted fw to something else then see the changes made? geohot said he used linux, on 3.15 to give us the 3.55 keys. how did he do that......

      i know that bootloader and mtldr can't be patched, right? but can't we create a clone of bootloader or mtldr using hardware and software and then use it to dump (fw,keys) in a location we specify? its not patched, its just redirected to a hacked clone of mtldr/bootlaoder.


      too drunk 2 explain but i can say is geosnot didnt give us 3.55 keys

    167. lisapower
      10-26-2011
      09:05 PM
      167

      Good News! thanks

    168. kiwitothemax
      10-26-2011
      09:16 PM
      168

      Did this news blow up or what. I hope future CFW will take work from the end user, where's the fun in being spoon feed everything. Last time I checked when I'm hungry for something I like to get it myself. Or a least educate myself to some degree to accomplish it.

    169. big_russ
      10-26-2011
      09:19 PM
      169

      nothing will come of this.just us lot got nothing better to talk about.ppl haveing to get ps3 key's out of the ps3 can you see that happening.i can see it now ps3 hax tells all the 11 year old kid's to open up said ps3 have a big long wee in do it back up you have the keys.when you tell them how to do it that's what they see in your post's you see my point be a lot of crying in hear.

    170. Qraze1
      10-26-2011
      09:21 PM
      170

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      too drunk 2 explain but i can say is geosnot didnt give us 3.55 keys
      okay, then how did he do what he did to get whatever he got to crack 3.55?

    171. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      09:30 PM
      171

      Originally Posted by Qraze1
      okay, then how did he do what he did to get whatever he got to crack 3.55?
      Fail0verfl0w tools were the path!

    172. big_russ
      10-26-2011
      09:38 PM
      172

      Originally Posted by Qraze1
      okay, then how did he do what he did to get whatever he got to crack 3.55?
      y we always go back to geotit for he is not hear any more let's move on the kid was a wast of space.

    173. defyboy
      10-26-2011
      09:56 PM
      173

      Can I just point out that this is not your per-console root key. This is the key that does however, encrypt many per-console specific things within your console. It is not new news, it has been publicly known for a while.

      The root key is what we need, it would enable us to decrypt/encrypt bootldr/metldr breaking the chain of trust at the very topmost point, completely breaking the PS3's security model.

      It is likely that the EID key is generated from the root key, It is likely that this would be a one-way irreversible hash though.

    174. denero1
      10-26-2011
      09:58 PM
      174

      there is some smart people in the scene but i think this might just be something they aren't quiet capable of yet :\

    175. Plutonic
      10-26-2011
      10:04 PM
      175

      Damnit....god damnit...

      I can't believe this. I've been waiting almost a year now for CFW because my bluray lens had failed. I joined this site this month with several questions about E3 flasher hoping that I could finally play without waiting 30 tries before the disc was read. Decided not to get it.

      Then, since it seemed no CFW was in sight according to most people I asked, I finally caved and ordered the lens last week.

      And JUST TODAY I installed it...hours later, this news.

      Meh, still happy.

      Question though: If this turns out to be true, does it mean we can "dual boot" as in switch from OFW to CFW to play backups and switch again to OFW to play online? If so, then I'm not at all mad about buying the lens.

      Originally Posted by kiwitothemax
      Did this news blow up or what. I hope future CFW will take work from the end user, where's the fun in being spoon feed everything. Last time I checked when I'm hungry for something I like to get it myself. Or a least educate myself to some degree to accomplish it.
      I love messing with hardware on anything, even though I know little of it. It's fun and you learn many things...installing that lens and watching the disc being read in 1 second was the best feeling ever.

      I completely agree with you.

    176. SquaLLio
      10-26-2011
      10:07 PM
      176

      Originally Posted by Plutonic
      Damnit....god damnit...

      I can't believe this. I've been waiting almost a year now for CFW because my bluray lens had failed. I joined this site this month with several questions about E3 flasher hoping that I could finally play without waiting 30 tries before the disc was read. Decided not to get it.

      Then, since it seemed no CFW was in sight according to most people I asked, I finally caved and ordered the lens last week.

      And JUST TODAY I installed it...hours later, this news.

      Meh, still happy.

      Question though: If this turns out to be true, does it mean we can "dual boot" as in switch from OFW to CFW to play backups and switch again to OFW to play online? If so, then I'm not at all mad about buying the lens.



      I love messing with hardware on anything, even though I know little of it. It's fun and you learn many things...installing that lens and watching the disc being read in 1 second was the best feeling ever.

      I completely agree with you.
      You'll want that laser for something eventually. Not a total waste.
      Also, there's still A LOT of work to be done here. Don't expect some magical CFW to appear out of nowhere.

      Dual booting CFW and OFW has been possible for quite awhile. There's NOR/NAND methods in doing so, and also HDD swap methods. There's plenty of literature on this here.

    177. Qraze1
      10-26-2011
      10:23 PM
      177

      Originally Posted by big_russ
      y we always go back to geotit for he is not hear any more let's move on the kid was a wast of space.
      excuse me? Geohot was a waste of space huh? he's done more for this scene than you or i put together.

      he absolutely helped open the doors.
      its why our apps work when we go back to 3.55 official, his signing software makes sure of it.
      those keys may be blacklisted now for 3.56+, but he still gave more than most ever will.

      before that, you had to have a dongle to run any unsigned code.

    178. ChuChu89
      10-26-2011
      10:39 PM
      178

      So they will eventually be able to dump whatever keys onyS creates now and forever?

    179. wtfTroll
      10-26-2011
      10:50 PM
      179

      Originally Posted by Qraze1
      excuse me? Geohot was a waste of space huh? he's done more for this scene than you or i put together.

      he absolutely helped open the doors.
      its why our apps work when we go back to 3.55 official, his signing software makes sure of it.
      those keys may be blacklisted now for 3.56+, but he still gave more than most ever will.

      before that, you had to have a dongle to run any unsigned code.
      Geotit did noting new Kakarotoks released the First PS3 CFW and in both the keys were acquired using Fail0verfl0w tools.

      So the real hero was failoverflow team.

    180. bhas
      10-26-2011
      10:50 PM
      180

      Just need a noob friendly tut

    181. Thelostdeathknight
      10-26-2011
      11:04 PM
      181

      Alright can we drop the george hotz convo, and stick to the topic at hand i.e. per_console_key_1 and per_console_key_n

    182. erexx
      10-26-2011
      11:19 PM
      182

      Whats frustrating about this is that these devs seem to always want to throw out how openly available all this information is.
      When obviously it takes more than just having the information.
      The system is complex enough to keep the average Joe from figuring it out,
      yet complex enough for others to discover something and still make a profit off of it...

      This new phase of PS3 hacking really takes very strong applied crypto knowledge to understand and implement.
      Only very few can do the computer science necessary needed to gather,
      understand and apply the information required to make this new generation of tools.

      The elite are here.
      Let them do the discovery and pass information.
      Experimentation is cool but exaggerating claims, being mean or lying about things only makes the scene ugly.
      Why not just sit back and enjoy the ride?

      The old military saying is "Security Through OBSCURITY is No Security at All"
      The original Xbox is a prime modern day example of this.

      Originally Posted by Qraze1
      excuse me? Geohot was a waste of space huh? he's done more for this scene than you or i put together.
      ...he absolutely helped open the doors...
      ... but he still gave more than most ever will.
      before that, you had to have a dongle to run any unsigned code.
      Yes, Geohot definitely deserves credit for the work he did, just like all the others that many would like to ignore.
      Your not completely correct about 3.41.
      Nearly any PSN game that runs on 3.55CFW can be signed to run on OFW3.41.
      Just like they need to be singed to run on 3.55. Not all unsigned code will run on 3.55.

      Other than the pokes necessary to use a Backup Manager the JB dongle is primarily used to install packages, otherwise most of the time its not needed.
      Granted 3.55 is required for many BluRay Disc games, backups and PS1 ISO games.
      If you really want a Backup Manager on 3.41 without a dongle there is always ReBug.
      Time will tell if 3.41 will finally die or made new again with the new Team KADO hack.

      PS3 Encryption is finally falling away.
      Maybe someday we wont be bound too it.

    183. Mackdanny
      10-27-2011
      12:22 AM
      183

      Yes good news


      And I'm not being a teachers pet when I say this but I agree with [MENTION=19681]TheLost[/MENTION]deathnight about the whole geohot thing, geohot is done, we have kakaroto, we have deank, we have so many devs still in it to win it and because of that we may have a method to break encryption..... Lately geohot has been mentioned left and right on the sce- I mean modding community when he hasn't done anything, at least that im aware of that truly contributes to the modding community and I'm not hating on the guy, I just believe his time has passed, and likewise, the torch with it.

    184. FortyThieves
      10-27-2011
      01:36 AM
      184

      this is great news and made my day

    185. art789
      10-27-2011
      01:44 AM
      185

      WOOOOOHHOOOO!!!! **** YEA!!!!! NO MORE STUPID FIRMWARE UPDATE FROM SONY!!! HAHAHAH SONY!!! **** YOU!!!! WE WON!!!!! NOW ITS TIME FOR SONY TO ROLL OUT THE RED CARPET FOR THE PS4. HAHAHHA!!! **** YEA!!!!! CELEBRATE!!! CANT WAIT!!!

    186. frederic1
      10-27-2011
      01:46 AM
      186

      I don't think it's safe to say "once the keys for per_console_key_0 are found, it will basically fully unlocks the PS3". How many times have the hackers pretended that they fully hacked the PS3 just for Sony to release a new firmware a few weeks later to fix the hole ?

    187. depblkman
      10-27-2011
      01:50 AM
      187

      Originally Posted by art789
      WOOOOOHHOOOO!!!! **** YEA!!!!! NO MORE STUPID FIRMWARE UPDATE FROM SONY!!! HAHAHAH SONY!!! **** YOU!!!! WE WON!!!!! NOW ITS TIME FOR SONY TO ROLL OUT THE RED CARPET FOR THE PS4. HAHAHHA!!! **** YEA!!!!! CELEBRATE!!! CANT WAIT!!!
      Too soon junior, too soon. Slow down before you hurt yourself.

      Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

    188. Psqwerty
      10-27-2011
      02:29 AM
      188

      Does anyone know whether this key can be gained from a console which is higher than OFW 3.55??

    189. underscoremike
      10-27-2011
      02:31 AM
      189


      im so in love with all ps3 devs right now.
      credit is deserved in the highest levels.
      i havent been this excited since i first bought my ps3.
      thank you so much for all you do!

    190. erexx
      10-27-2011
      02:34 AM
      190

      Originally Posted by Mackdanny
      I mean modding community when he hasn't done anything, at least that im aware of that truly contributes to the modding community and I'm not hating on the guy, I just believe his time has passed, and likewise, the torch with it.
      lol, true, true... We have some of the Best intelligent minds on our side.
      BTW did you know that Geohot was sued into arbitration oblivion by Sony?
      He signed an agreement stating he would not hack a single Sony device ever again
      or face huge monetary fines for each and every infraction.
      GeoHot signed it and went on to say he would never own another Sony device...

      So it should go without saying that we wont ever see him working on the PS3 again.
      Also Geohot wasn't interested in completely opening up the console.
      He wanted to lock it down for homebrew use only, using Sony's own encryption to do it.
      That's the real reason for his low popularity with fans of the scene.

      If you want a hero look at Graf_Chokolo.
      Sony took all his stuff, twice, and put him in a deep dark hole.
      Anyone who defies Sony from then on is a Hero.

    191. havok7
      10-27-2011
      02:42 AM
      191

      let the eboot fixes start rolling out

    192. SquaLLio
      10-27-2011
      02:51 AM
      192

      It blows my mind that after ALL the clarification on this matter, people still don't understand what it means.

    193. STLcardsWS
      10-27-2011
      03:15 AM
      193

      Originally Posted by SquaLLio
      It blows my mind that after ALL the clarification on this matter, people still don't understand what it means.
      Yea i couldn't agree more..

      This will not lead to a CFW anytime soon... well not by itself..
      There are still steps (difficult steps) from what i have understood..

      Whoever front paged seem to be more excited then to go over the facts...(maybe im wrong?)

      For the newb what this does is basically replace the current function JB2 aka TrueBlue!
      Yes it has the potential but from what i understand its not there yet, or even close at this point (maybe im wrong, if so just prove me wrong)

      For those wondering or not sure if you should buy the JB2/TrueBlue - THIS news story is worth the wait before investing in the device/bluray burner.
      With these comments and especially before the update below.. but even with the update it is very misleading to the newbs.. Makes this thing sound it is weeks away when its more like months or longer.. (just my own speculation there on the timetable)

      Update: Please understand that this method is for dumping per_console_key_1, and per_console_key_n. In order to get CFW we need to dump per_console_key_0.

    194. CrystalWolf
      10-27-2011
      03:22 AM
      194

      Halloween is early, we got the Treat and Sony got the Trick.

    195. jatin notani
      10-27-2011
      03:42 AM
      195

      what exactly we need to do to run 3.6x+ games on 3.55cfw?

    196. CrystalWolf
      10-27-2011
      03:43 AM
      196

      The isoldr or the appldr keys I think. That's what got the games that required 3.55 firmware to run on 3.41 firmware back in the old days of the jailbreak with dongle usage.

    197. ps3convert
      10-27-2011
      03:52 AM
      197

      Sounds like great news.

      but lets say they do manage to successfully dump the key 0. Would sony then still be able to somehow create a newer FW update to block us, like they currently can or is the console fully hacked? I'm just a bit sceptic that although this news is exciting, sony may find a newer method to stop hackers.

    198. esj
      10-27-2011
      04:04 AM
      198

      Originally Posted by ps3convert
      lets say they do manage to successfully dump the key 0.

      Would sony then still be able to go and create a newer FW update to block us, like they currently can or is this it?
      To answer your question, No Sony cant fix this through FW updates but they can fix it through Hardware revisions,

      However this doesn't give us the key we actually need or get us much closer too it, i think more likely an open source version of "true blue / jb2" is going to be out best solution for a while

    199. bigo93
      10-27-2011
      04:06 AM
      199

      In order for everyone to get cfw on any ps3 and firmware we need the root keys not the console keys.

      Console keys will do the same but then everyone will have to be able to dump and decrypt their own console keys and then make their own cfw. It's the first part that's the problem, how to get the dump; I'm pretty sure someone already has a diy cfw builder made.

    200. ps3convert
      10-27-2011
      04:16 AM
      200

      thanks very much for clarifying esj and bigo93.

      @ bigo93 - all you need is someone to create a tutorial on how to dump/decrypt/build cfw and the rest is upto the users to learn.

    201. Henrik
      10-27-2011
      04:30 AM
      201

      Exciting news indeed Can't wait to actually start using my PS3 again. As of now it's somewhat unusable with so many new games that aren't playable on CFW 3.55.

    202. davidpstone
      10-27-2011
      04:41 AM
      202

      Please understand that this method is for dumping per_console_key_1, and per_console_key_n. In order to get CFW we need to dump per_console_key_0.

      do you understand peoples ?! we are NOT able yet to get CFW ! dont be excite to early !

    203. wikdclown
      10-27-2011
      04:44 AM
      203

      This seems like it may not be the news everyone (including me) are/was hoping for
      Moogie301 via twitter
      "THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CFW AND WILL NOT LEAD TO CFW"

      http://twitter.com/#!/moogie301

    204. Mischif93
      10-27-2011
      04:45 AM
      204

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      you cant . u got 2 option downgrade via hard ware = money or get ps3 on 3,55 or below = money , it has been known and told 2 have both worlds u need 2 ps3 1 on ofw and 1 on cfw . same as thew next cfw u need 3.55 be on as it been told unless u ask sony nicely for there keys
      Please correct me if I am wrong but isn't it that if your console is a slim with the new motherboard and it came born with OFW 3.56+ (so not updated before leaving the factory) you cant downgrade at all not even with hardware like Progskeet???

      That is my understanding.
      I don't think their will be a CFW above 3.55 any time soon though I guess its good to stay positive?

    205. Elyssion
      10-27-2011
      04:46 AM
      205

      Originally Posted by davidpstone
      Please understand that this method is for dumping per_console_key_1, and per_console_key_n. In order to get CFW we need to dump per_console_key_0.

      do you understand peoples ?! we are NOT able yet to get CFW ! dont be excite to early !
      Even with the per_console_key_0, there is no guarantee that the per_console_key is the only thing involved in bootloader encryption.

      If no one has seen the cell boot code, no one can guarantee that the per_console_key is the only thing involved in bootloader encryption. If no one has seen the cell boot code, everything is just pure speculation. If someone has seen the cell boot code, then correct me. But I have never heard of anyone having their hands on that.

    206. kixiximen
      10-27-2011
      04:52 AM
      206

      Originally Posted by wikdclown
      This seems like it may not be the news everyone (including me) are/was hoping for
      Moogie301 via twitter
      "THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CFW AND WILL NOT LEAD TO CFW"

      http://twitter.com/#!/moogie301
      Not Custom Firmware 3.7*

    207. Mischif93
      10-27-2011
      05:00 AM
      207

      This is how I see it, if the devs found away to bring a CFW higher than what we currently have it would then be all over the web and the devs would also say something along the lines of this could bring new CFW or something easy for most people to understand about CFW releases but that is my opinion.

    208. ricardopgames
      10-27-2011
      07:09 AM
      208

      I've seen this movie once other vezes. Appears that one discovers the world.Calculations and more calculating than just that he did not create anything.
      Tired of it and sony keeps on winning.

    209. H3avyRa1n
      10-27-2011
      07:12 AM
      209

      Originally Posted by ricardopgames
      I've seen this movie once other vezes. Appears that one discovers the world.Calculations and more calculating than just that he did not create anything.
      Tired of it and sony keeps on winning.
      go OFW and let the sony do that calculations for you.

    210. santaro
      10-27-2011
      07:18 AM
      210

      Only time will tell.....

    211. Sidewinder_2011
      10-27-2011
      07:20 AM
      211

      Originally Posted by Mischif93
      Please correct me if I am wrong but isn't it that if your console is a slim with the new motherboard and it came born with OFW 3.56+ (so not updated before leaving the factory) you cant downgrade at all not even with hardware like Progskeet???

      That is my understanding.
      I don't think their will be a CFW above 3.55 any time soon though I guess its good to stay positive?
      your are right to a point but there are some ps3 slims that left the factory on 3.56 and 3,60 fw that can be downgrade. the reason why some can is because even thought they left the factory they wasnt born on that fw , they was 3.55 ofw but sony updated them there self so it wasnt ready for cfw to be install when it left the shop that sold it

    212. OoZic
      10-27-2011
      07:43 AM
      212

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      your are right to a point but there are some ps3 slims that left the factory on 3.56 and 3,60 fw that can be downgrade. the reason why some can is because even thought they left the factory they wasnt born on that fw , they was 3.55 ofw but sony updated them there self so it wasnt ready for cfw to be install when it left the shop that sold it
      Can't remember $ony orders PS3's back from the stores to update the FW. I was afraid of that too when i bought my Slim in the 3.41 age. Afraid they would update the consoles to stop dongles. But it came with 3.15 on it and the one I bought 3 months later was also on the same 3.15... To expensive for $ony I think to have lots of people working to unpack and update

    213. Sidewinder_2011
      10-27-2011
      07:48 AM
      213

      Originally Posted by OoZic
      Can't remember $ony orders PS3's back from the stores to update the FW. I was afraid of that too when i bought my Slim in the 3.41 age. Afraid they would update the consoles to stop dongles. But it came with 3.15 on it and the one I bought 3 months later was also on the same 3.15... To expensive for $ony I think to have lots of people working to unpack and update
      not recalling them back from the shops .they updated ones they had in the factory that was on 3.55 then shiped them to the shops on 3.56

    214. erexx
      10-27-2011
      07:55 AM
      214

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      not recalling them back from the shops .they updated ones they had in the factory that was on 3.55 then shiped them to the shops on 3.56
      They would have to updated while on the production line.
      Once boxed its not only too expensive... its completely impractical.
      Another factor is geography/location and type of stores.
      Some areas sell more than others and some stores share inventory.

    215. Sidewinder_2011
      10-27-2011
      08:14 AM
      215

      Originally Posted by erexx
      They would have to updated while on the production line.
      i swear i just said that " their factory" as in where the ps3 is built !

    216. alienkid
      10-27-2011
      08:22 AM
      216

      Nice!

      Not to stir the pot, but who said the scene was dead..?

      Shout out to all involved!

    217. tenoob
      10-27-2011
      09:35 AM
      217

      Originally Posted by alienkid
      Nice!

      Not to stir the pot, but who said the scene was dead..?

      Shout out to all involved!

      Looks like ps3s on 3.55 or less are gonna skyrocket in price
      (supply aint there to meet demand), glad I got mine when
      the scene was considered 'dead'.

      We have lots to look forward to this holiday season

    218. Mischif93
      10-27-2011
      09:39 AM
      218

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      your are right to a point but there are some ps3 slims that left the factory on 3.56 and 3,60 fw that can be downgrade. the reason why some can is because even thought they left the factory they wasnt born on that fw , they was 3.55 ofw but sony updated them there self so it wasnt ready for cfw to be install when it left the shop that sold it
      Thanks, you helped me prove the point (in more detail) that I was trying to get across.

    219. alienkid
      10-27-2011
      09:39 AM
      219

      Originally Posted by tenoob
      We have lots to look forward to this holiday season
      No doubt!

      The past month or so has been what appears holiday season coming early.

    220. Dahaka
      10-27-2011
      10:04 AM
      220

      I hope these something new about the new Slim 3000 Models...

    221. PS3Ftw
      10-27-2011
      10:13 AM
      221

      Lol oh didn't read that we must need make or own cfw's.
      Well no suing then hehe.

    222. cocoldacola
      10-27-2011
      10:13 AM
      222

      honestly this is the happiest i've been today with whatever disease i have. -_-

    223. erexx
      10-27-2011
      10:14 AM
      223

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      i swear i just said that " their factory" as in where the ps3 is built !
      Sorry, I was in agreement.
      Also off topic a little but heads up, Duplex is on a roll again...
      ...hopefully this steady stream continues...

    224. Cingiz
      10-27-2011
      10:17 AM
      224

      Hey guys..!We have to install ps3load pkg to ps3 ...but how?Can someone put video tutorial as soon as did it..Thx )

    225. ishmumrhmn
      10-27-2011
      10:19 AM
      225

      THis is prolly never gonna happen. First the onm project--- never released, and now this. This is fake probably

      dont get me wrong I just lost hope and selling my ps3 for a wii which can be modded AND go online

    226. GregoryRasputin
      10-27-2011
      10:22 AM
      226

      Originally Posted by ishmumrhmn
      This is fake probably
      Try educating yourself, NOTHING Gitbrew do or release is fake :/

    227. havok7
      10-27-2011
      10:38 AM
      227

      Originally Posted by ishmumrhmn
      dont get me wrong I just lost hope and selling my ps3 for a wii which can be modded AND go online
      if you said selling ps3 for xbox 360 ok, but for wii...

    228. whizzer
      10-27-2011
      10:40 AM
      228

      Thanks to everybody working on this.I have a question. I disabbled the ss patch so I didn't get the trophy error do I need to put it back to try this out?

    229. ikefix
      10-27-2011
      10:53 AM
      229

      Well, I suposse it is just a matter of time that an ingenieer, or a genius make a CFW from these interesting info. The rest of mortals will have to wait for the promised CFW, the one to rule them all, and in the meanwhile their so-called diogenes (cannot find an explanation why that unfair name) syndrome 2.0 (massive storage of 20GB sized games that need 3 lives to be played) will be in forced quarantine. I'd really like to know the background and IQ of the average hacker who publishes this kind of info and how in the ��ll could they reach that level without a convenient leak. All in all they are the only ones who really enjoy the creation of a scene, not the the yonki warezlandia.

    230. EmBoLa.be
      10-27-2011
      11:04 AM
      230

      it's because of holiday, that devs will have more spare time to make somthing new or hack the ps3 proper instead of small and big steps,

    231. callkiller
      10-27-2011
      11:04 AM
      231

      Originally Posted by ishmumrhmn
      THis is prolly never gonna happen. First the onm project--- never released, and now this. This is fake probably

      dont get me wrong I just lost hope and selling my ps3 for a wii which can be modded AND go online
      I'll give ya a softmodded Wii for that Ps3 if its on 3.55 firmware.... what can I do I'm a nice guy

    232. Caddyroo
      10-27-2011
      11:06 AM
      232

      I hope they make it available to dump the keys on 3.7x ps3's otherwise you'd have to downgrade to get the console key and then upgrade right ?

    233. kixiximen
      10-27-2011
      11:25 AM
      233

      Originally Posted by Caddyroo
      I hope they make it available to dump the keys on 3.7x ps3's otherwise you'd have to downgrade to get the console key and then upgrade right ?
      hope per_console_key_0

    234. Sidewinder_2011
      10-27-2011
      11:35 AM
      234

      Originally Posted by Caddyroo
      I hope they make it available to dump the keys on 3.7x ps3's otherwise you'd have to downgrade to get the console key and then upgrade right ?
      i dought it very much , how do to expect to install anythink on your ps3 eg tools we need of look threw files on your ps3 , if we could then we would of had a cfw already , if and when a cfw comes out u will need to be on 3.55 to do anythink with cfw , sad but thats the way the cookie crumbles this time

    235. lunuxx
      10-27-2011
      11:40 AM
      235

      Originally Posted by whizzer
      Thanks to everybody working on this.I have a question. I disabbled the ss patch so I didn't get the trophy error do I need to put it back to try this out?
      uh yeah your gonna need ss patches

      also if per_console_root_key_0 is obtainable:
      per_console_root_key_0
      * metldr is decrypted with this key
      * bootldr is decrypted with this key

    236. jimmyemunoz
      10-27-2011
      11:47 AM
      236

      Originally Posted by big_russ
      nothing will come of this.just us lot got nothing better to talk about.ppl haveing to get ps3 key's out of the ps3 can you see that happening.i can see it now ps3 hax tells all the 11 year old kid's to open up said ps3 have a big long wee in do it back up you have the keys.when you tell them how to do it that's what they see in your post's you see my point be a lot of crying in hear.
      English please? WTF???

    237. FortyThieves
      10-27-2011
      12:26 PM
      237

      damn no update yet?

    238. bigo93
      10-27-2011
      12:37 PM
      238

      Originally Posted by FortyThieves
      damn no update yet?
      This just dumps a few console keys, they are not system master/root keys.
      You also have to remember that the keys then have to be decrypted before they can make any use of them

      This article has been over-hyped and any real user usable application probably wont be available until some time after the new year!

    239. marnik
      10-27-2011
      12:48 PM
      239

      pfff they always talk talk talk, i don't how many guys said they would find the keys ,the jfw-dh cfw, ... still nothing released in like 7 months or something

    240. GregoryRasputin
      10-27-2011
      12:51 PM
      240

      Originally Posted by marnik
      pfff they always talk talk talk, i don't how many guys said they would find the keys ,the jfw-dh cfw, ... still nothing released in like 7 months or something
      And what have you done/released lately ?

    241. lunuxx
      10-27-2011
      01:02 PM
      241

      tell ya what, all you guys complaining (the this does nothing for me bs as usual) wouldnt know a trout if it smacked you in the face. people give you tools to work with and you blame the tools, a poor worker blames his tools but a good worker blames himself. why dont you instead of *****ing and complaining try the tools. or wait you prolly dont have linux installed right (your prolly in that same crowd that said linux was useless on ps3 right?) well you can also use payloader3, oh you dont know how to use that either? i must say if thats the fact your SOL

    242. Cheesethief
      10-27-2011
      01:04 PM
      242

      Originally Posted by marnik
      pfff they always talk talk talk, i don't how many guys said they would find the keys ,the jfw-dh cfw, ... still nothing released in like 7 months or something
      You are comparing actual developers to vaporware attention whores. Theres a difference, these guys are the ones that actually helped bring about CFW, while the latter just used up oxygen and time to fool people into thinking they were going to bring about a revolutionary CFW.

    243. nzie
      10-27-2011
      01:09 PM
      243

      Originally Posted by marnik
      pfff they always talk talk talk, i don't how many guys said they would find the keys ,the jfw-dh cfw, ... still nothing released in like 7 months or something
      be positive man.its not that easy to get what you claim for.at least they had contributing to this scene.and this is the chance for the scene move forward.why dont you release your own cfw?stop complaining mates

    244. lunuxx
      10-27-2011
      01:15 PM
      245

      3.56 in theory should be possible i was playing with it the other night until i got the flu get on hax irc and we can talk

    245. EmBoLa.be
      10-27-2011
      01:15 PM
      246

      Best bet is to reverse engineer the JB2 dongle and make a cfw out of it, then whait for the master KEY,

    246. TheEvolution_PT
      10-27-2011
      01:16 PM
      247

      Guys stop acting like *****es, this is great, and time will bring another cfw for sure! just wait and support the devs.
      If I had hacking abilities i help them and stop complaining.
      Just Wait and you all see, the devs and hackers have my full support
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by EmBoLa.be
      Best bet is to reverse engineer the JB2 dongle and make a cfw out of it, then whait for the master KEY,
      No i think wait for the master key its better, because if you reverse the JB2 sony will be block them.
      And with master key its impossible for sony blocks the keys!
      Sry for my english.

    247. underball
      10-27-2011
      01:20 PM
      248

      So in theory, if you have access to the root key for your own console, someone could write an app that decrypts the entire OFW pkg onto a location on the PS3 Hard Drive (Like Dark_Alex used to do with the PSP firmware decrypters for each release) and then take your own key, and recompile a new PKG CFW with all the security bits removed so that everything that works in the 3.55 CFWs works in ANY firmware, right?

    248. EmBoLa.be
      10-27-2011
      01:21 PM
      249

      Originally Posted by TheEvolution_PT
      No i think wait for the master key its better, because if you reverse the JB2 sony will be block them.
      And with master key its impossible for sony block the keys!
      Sry for my english.
      nope i don't agree with you, Yes Sony will block this but then, all the crying ppl have something to play with aka new games for some time, instead of crying and shouting "This TOOL dosn't work", offcoarse when sony blocks it, those ppl are crying andshouting back here in this forum, but "maybe" when the time that sony blocks it the master key is allready been found and i sayed MAYBE, that's how i think abouth it

    249. jimmyemunoz
      10-27-2011
      01:33 PM
      250

      Don't get down on the devs who are using their time to explore the PS3. Most devs aren't concerned with helping piracy in the first place, some yes, don't get me wrong. Take it easy and encourage people, don't beg and insult. Devs are doing hard work. There not making a sandwich. It takes time, drive and patience. I really hope the nay sayers are first to thank any dev who provides free tools and information to allow every PS3 to do what the end user wants. I understand frustration but if you think about it, no one knows the same frustration better than the devs who are trying to unravel algorithms that split keys. I am not a programmer but I do know what they are doing is indeed very technical and requires tools that cost money. I've never donated to a dev directly and this is not very generous of me, I know. This time around though I will donate and I'm hoping any one who reads this drawn out post does the same so devs are rewarded financially for sacrificing their time, intelligence and tools. Amen, I said it!

    250. Zara
      10-27-2011
      01:34 PM
      251

      I don't understand this need to get people excited for (pretty much) nothing, seriously.

      Yeah, we can get the keys and that's great but the fact that the master key can't be obtained yet (and as far as I get it, that's the "important one") just slipped by somewhere in these 25 pages.

      So basically, we're right where we were 2 days ago. Yes, this MIGHT allow a new CFW tomorrow but it also doesn't do anything without the master key and it just MIGHT end up forgotten like all the sensational announcements in the past (anybody remember No_One?). So can somebody please explain to me, for the love of god and everything that is pure and holy - what's the point with this? I understand any progress is great and I agree with that but why announce it like it's the best thing in the world since the invention of electricity and then give everybody a cold shower saying "well we still don't know how to get this other key and without it we can't do anything"? Thank you.

    251. GregoryRasputin
      10-27-2011
      01:36 PM
      252

      Originally Posted by Zara
      what's the point with this? I understand any progress is great and I agree with that but why announce it like it's the best thing in the world since the invention of electricity and then give everybody a cold shower saying "well we still don't know how to get this other key and without it we can't do anything"? Thank you.
      Perhaps we should stop posting any news and shut the site down.....

    252. lunuxx
      10-27-2011
      01:39 PM
      253

      the point is there are tools on a wiki page and instructions ment for people to go play with. who knows maybe if you start to play with it you might figure out something uselful

    253. whizzer
      10-27-2011
      01:40 PM
      254

      Is the dispmgr_access.sh the same as having ss patchs enabled?still trying to learn.

    254. japsander
      10-27-2011
      01:42 PM
      255

      some people fail to realise that others can pick up on these things and carry on the work.
      without details such as this being released, the scene would be in the dark ages.
      one dev can work hard for months to get a job done and keep the details to himself, slowing things down or many devs can share their findings and work together to a common goal

      ignorance is bliss is a false saying. more like ignorance is a *****

    255. Caddyroo
      10-27-2011
      01:48 PM
      256

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      i dought it very much , how do to expect to install anythink on your ps3 eg tools we need of look threw files on your ps3 , if we could then we would of had a cfw already , if and when a cfw comes out u will need to be on 3.55 to do anythink with cfw , sad but thats the way the cookie crumbles this time
      Well thats the point they say in them finding their console keys so they can find other keys to create the 3.72 JB just like the ones before. I just was wanting clarification but from what I'm able to make from this is that all CFW will be open to hacking.

    256. Zara
      10-27-2011
      01:54 PM
      257

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      Perhaps we should stop posting any news and shut the site down.....
      No, you shouldn't. And I know you know what I'm trying to say. There's nothing wrong with the news but you sure could take it a bit easier on sensationalism because it doesn't help anybody. And just so I'm clear, let's see:

      "Just good news after good news for the PS3 scene recently, as the folks over at PS3DevWiki have documented and released on how to dump the PS3 per console keys! For the newb what this does is basically replace the current function JB2 aka TrueBlue! In short once the keys for per_console_key_0 are found, it will basically fully unlocks the PS3 and grant as CFW access on basically ALL firmwares! This is great news for everyone in the PS3 scene and is only a matter of time before we have the keys!"
      CFW ON ALL FIRMWARES! OH SWEET LORD! JUST A MATTER OF TIME! That's fantastic! Majestic! Ecstatic! Orgasmic!

      Update: Please understand that this method is for dumping per_console_key_1, and per_console_key_n. In order to get CFW we need to dump per_console_key_0.
      Oh... okay. But they know how to get it, right?

      might be obtained with per_console_root_key_1? (largely speculative, not nec. true � need more looked into, only based on the behavior of the other derivatives known to be obtained through AES)
      Largely speculative? Need more looked into?

      So you see what happened here. Instead of all those heavy promises from above, somebody should have ACTUALLY LOOKED INTO WHAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO and then started talking about "fully unlocked PS3" and "CFW on any firmware". That's all I'm saying. I don't mind the news, I don't mind the information being shared, I don't mind encouraging people to go play with it, that's all cool. What I mind is talking about it like it's all finished and promising things that are not any less distant and unrealistic than they were yesterday.

    257. Owanef
      10-27-2011
      02:00 PM
      258

      can any one find a solder less progskeet for slim model ps3 Tutorial.
      im getting one and i need to know how to install it.
      GOTTA GET IN THIS ACTION SO THAT I CAN GET THE KEYS TO MY PS3.!!!!!!

    258. joker_with_cards
      10-27-2011
      02:44 PM
      259

      well my ps3 3.70 is this good for me

    259. jimmyemunoz
      10-27-2011
      03:16 PM
      260

      Originally Posted by Zara
      No, you shouldn't. And I know you know what I'm trying to say. There's nothing wrong with the news but you sure could take it a bit easier on sensationalism because it doesn't help anybody. And just so I'm clear, let's see:



      CFW ON ALL FIRMWARES! OH SWEET LORD! JUST A MATTER OF TIME! That's fantastic! Majestic! Ecstatic! Orgasmic!



      Oh... okay. But they know how to get it, right?



      Largely speculative? Need more looked into?

      So you see what happened here. Instead of all those heavy promises from above, somebody should have ACTUALLY LOOKED INTO WHAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO and then started talking about "fully unlocked PS3" and "CFW on any firmware". That's all I'm saying. I don't mind the news, I don't mind the information being shared, I don't mind encouraging people to go play with it, that's all cool. What I mind is talking about it like it's all finished and promising things that are not any less distant and unrealistic than they were yesterday.
      +1 good response and advice.

    260. kian2002
      10-27-2011
      03:18 PM
      261

      so if i get this if we get the key0 we don't need a ps3 to get the key.
      We can decrypt the .pup with software take the keys and just add to cfw then we can just add the new things sony add to ofw via a pkg

    261. jackieboy8
      10-27-2011
      03:47 PM
      262

      Hey, this is just Great. Really want new Firmware! Or some way to play the new games. So I fanaly get upgrade my HD with a 1000GB one and Redownloaded all my bought stuff after that on PSN than CFW 3.70+ and done

    262. STLcardsWS
      10-27-2011
      04:03 PM
      263

      [MENTION=1134]ps3hax[/MENTION] staff..

      Why is this being reported the way it is..

      Yes it is news.. (news from August), but it like a buying a book that has half the pages missing.. Its incomplete..this wont do anything for us at this point..

      This post was directed to the Newbs and fired up the scene for no reason..
      I dont mind the news.. But the WAY it was REPORTED was wrong !!!!
      (reason why we have over 250 post in this thread asking about CFW..)

      The claims that ps3hax made on the initial news post was absolutely off base..

      You guys did update it a bit... but there are still some misleading facts up there...

      By telling people this will replace JB2 and not to buy JB2 you ARE IMPLYING this is right around the corner when in fact it is the same as it was in August from what i understand.. and will could be a long way off...

      For those wondering or not sure if you should buy the JB2/TrueBlue - THIS news story is worth the wait before investing in the device/bluray burner.


      This is great news for everyone in the PS3 scene and is only a matter of time before we have the keys!


      It is no where close to that...

      For the newb what this does is basically replace the current function JB2 aka TrueBlue!


      Wrong.. its nothing at this point...
      JB2 confirmed working..
      This is incomplete..
      Sort of like JFW.. this may have some light at end of the tunnel. but IT JUTS SPECULATION at this point..


      This is for DEVS.. yet you are directing it to the Newbs..
      Again i dont mind the news. like the news.. It just how it was reported..

      And to think you guys have rules about asking for keys higher FW ect... yet you EXCITED ALL THAT TALK.... with this news post and even updated it a bit to cover youselves.. yet it still has incorrect info...

      I COULD BE VERY WRONG HERE... but you have to wonder was the a stunt to gain some traffic... because still it isn't posted right... and yet it excites...

      Its sad when psx-scene posted it right...

    263. GregoryRasputin
      10-27-2011
      04:07 PM
      264

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      I COULD BE VERY WRONG HERE... but you have to wonder was the a stunt to gain some traffic... because still it isn't posted right... and yet it excites...
      Perhaps you create a website, perhaps you write news, then when you get a bunch of ass*oles b*tching and moaning about everything you do, read back what you just wrote.....

    264. STLcardsWS
      10-27-2011
      04:11 PM
      265

      Perhaps you create a website, perhaps you write news, then when you get a bunch of ass*oles b*tching and moaning about everything you do, read back what you just wrote.....
      Like i said i could be wrong there.(very well could be). Just you have to wonder..

      But you have to agree even if you dont agree with the (traffic comment)//

      Its doing more harm then good this story..
      the news is good but IS VERY MISLEADING and it is still misleading thats why i say the above.. again i could be wrong.. but one has to wonder.

      Not *****ing about the news.. Just *****ing in the way it was reported..
      Remenber when it was posted orginally there was no update that it has now.. and even with the update it is misleading.

      you have to agree that psx-scene posted it for what it was.. Yes you guys were first and they got the story from you guys most likely but they posted for what it WAS...

      also to note when running a site, you are suppose to report the facts.. The facts werent really reported here.. More speculation then anything.. and it wasnt delivered in that manner..
      Thats the issue..

    265. GregoryRasputin
      10-27-2011
      04:24 PM
      266

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      Yes it is news.. (news from August), but it like a buying a book that has half the pages missing.. Its incomplete..this wont do anything for us at this point..

      Perhaps you need to educate yourself to what this actually is, here is what [MENTION=185644]Warning[/MENTION] stated on psx-scene
      This is all new infomation. I watched it being updated to ps3devwiki in real time.10:41, 26 October 2011
      So no, its not from August, it is a lot newer to that and if you love psx-scene so much, go over there and do your posting, if you think it is over hyped, PM the person who front paged it, instead of derailing the thread.

      Im fed up with fighting and arguing with people that keep saying that this is pointless, that this is trash etc, if you don't like the news, then why read it....

    266. STLcardsWS
      10-27-2011
      04:26 PM
      267

      So no, its not from August, it is a lot newer to that and if you love psx-scene so much, go over there and do your posting, if you think it is over hyped, PM the person who front paged it, instead of derailing the thread.

      Im fed up with fighting and arguing with people that keep saying that this is pointless, that this is trash etc, if you don't like the news, then why read it....
      even if it is NEW.. it still is reported wrong..

      Its not derailing the thread its putting the info in the thread in PERSPECTIVE...

      Everything i have said was directly from what was posted.. (not derailing anything)

      didnt say it was trash or pointless... ect... I just said what the front page claims INS'T true at this point

      mistakes happen.. but this still reads that way.

      JB2 will be reversed before this method is fully exploited..

      So the JB2 being useless is way off base...

      For those wondering or not sure if you should buy the JB2/TrueBlue - THIS news story is worth the wait before investing in the device/bluray burner
      Why hasnt that been updated? thats all im saying.. it just wrong in the way it was posted.. and still is even after a whole day of people pointing it out..?

      That what i dont understand and thats why it makes you wonder..

      From what i understood it was updated but NO NEW INFO.Just a better explantion.. but thats isnt the point here at all if its old or new..

    267. Warning
      10-27-2011
      04:31 PM
      268

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      [MENTION=1134]ps3hax[/MENTION] staff..

      Why is this being reported the way it is..

      Yes it is news.. (news from August), but it like a buying a book that has half the pages missing.. Its incomplete..this wont do anything for us at this point..
      The page was created in August. The info on how obtain the keys where posted on 10:41, 26 October 2011. You can confirm this by checking the update history on ps3devwiki.
      Also this is the biggest news in the last couple months and deserves to be front paged. We are 90% closer to being able to play new games then we where a couple days ago.

    268. dazzzzbo
      10-27-2011
      04:32 PM
      269

      Hi I am pretty new on the scene but hacked the psp as soon as it was poss. I just don't understand how people can knock the devs as much as they do . If it was me I would say f$&)k it and not develop anything as peeps are really ungrateful . Don't forget these people do it for free and might have jobs aswell . If you don't have anything positive to say don't say anything IMHO.

      Cheers daz

    269. STLcardsWS
      10-27-2011
      04:36 PM
      270

      AGAIN this doesnt matter when it was new or old. (all the info was there in august from what i understood, there was an update but all the info was there already..)

      Im just saying the info is wrong posted..

      That is the problem'

      We can go back and forth to say when it was updated..

      Also this is the biggest news in the last couple months and deserves to be front paged. We are 90% closer to being able to play new games then we where a couple days ago.
      agreed.
      but the info put out there is wrong...

      Thats the problem

      but this wont help new games.. jb2 will help that before this ever would..

      JB2 will be reversed before this method will help us..
      It was directed to newbs and shouldnt of been, because the info was wrong.

      It makes people seem like this around the corner.. Even telling them to hold off on JB2..


      Hi I am pretty new on the scene but hacked the psp as soon as it was poss. I just don't understand how people can knock the devs as much as they do . If it was me I would say f$&)k it and not develop anything as peeps are really ungrateful . Don't forget these people do it for free and might have jobs aswell . If you don't have anything positive to say don't say anything IMHO.

      Cheers daz
      Now this is no way disrespecting the devs... I am just setting the record straight..

    270. GregoryRasputin
      10-27-2011
      04:38 PM
      271

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      AGAIN this doesnt matter when it was new or old.

      Im just saying the info is wrong posted..

      That is the problem'

      We can go back and forth to say when it was updated..



      agreed.
      but the info put out there is wrong...

      Thats the problem

      How the f*ck is it posted wrong, is it wrong because YOU don't understand it ?

    271. EmBoLa.be
      10-27-2011
      04:45 PM
      272

      ppl, instead of trying to break each other down or to break down the dev's and there tools of this thread, why just work together or just ignore the ignorance ppl,

    272. STLcardsWS
      10-27-2011
      04:48 PM
      273

      How the f*ck is it posted wrong, is it wrong because YOU don't understand it ?
      I do understand it..

      Let me explain to you once again..

      You are misleading the NEWBS and even some members who dont follow daily..

      For the newb what this does is basically replace the current function JB2 aka TrueBlue!
      This may be true, BUT thats not what it does now..

      Then ps3hax goes on to say:

      For those wondering or not sure if you should buy the JB2/TrueBlue - THIS news story is worth the wait before investing in the device/bluray burner.
      This is Also very misleading and incorrect AT THIS TIME..
      JB2 works. NOW !!!
      this method doesnt work, it is incomplete for it to work..
      Will that change, we dont know.. We also dont know when..
      But by that comment you are IMPLYING (indirectly or directly doesnt matter) that this just around the corner.. There is no truth to that...

      This is great news for everyone in the PS3 scene and is only a matter of time before we have the keys!
      If the method isnt complete then how can you say that..?
      Especially put "only a matter of time" with the wait on JB2..

      That is implying things are almost done.. when in fact they are a ways off..

      That is the issue


      ppl, instead of trying to break each other down or to break down the dev's and there tools of this thread, why just work together or just ignore the ignorance ppl,
      I am not knocking the NEWS it self.. i just dont like how it is being reported with false claims..

      I have MUCH respect for the DEVS...

    273. GregoryRasputin
      10-27-2011
      04:49 PM
      274

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      You are misleading the NEWBS and even some members who dont follow daily..
      Then i feel sorry that you are a "NEWB"....

    274. EmBoLa.be
      10-27-2011
      04:51 PM
      275

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      I do understand it..
      Let me explain to you once again..
      You are misleading the NEWBS and even some members who dont follow daily..
      This may be true, BUT thats not what it does now..
      Then ps3hax goes on to say:
      This is Also very misleading and incorrect AT THIS TIME..
      JB2 works. NOW !!!
      this method doesnt work, it is incomplete for it to work..
      Will that change, we dont know.. We also dont know when..
      But by that comment you are IMPLYING (indirectly or directly doesnt matter) that this just around the corner.. There is no truth to that...
      If the method isnt complete then how can you say that..?
      Especially put "only a matter of time" with the wait on JB2..
      That is implying things are almost done.. when in fact they are a ways off..
      That is the issue
      I am not knocking the NEWS it self.. i just dont like how it is being reported with false claims..
      I have MUCH respect for the DEVS...
      Pls do shut up, you making ppl angry, jezus, if you don't like the news here or how it's been written then go to psx-scene

      ANY SMALL progres is better then NO progres

    275. japsander
      10-27-2011
      04:52 PM
      276

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      I do understand it..

      Let me explain to you once again..

      You are misleading the NEWBS and even some members who dont follow daily..



      This may be true, BUT thats not what it does now..

      Then ps3hax goes on to say:



      This is Also very misleading and incorrect AT THIS TIME..
      JB2 works. NOW !!!
      this method doesnt work, it is incomplete for it to work..
      Will that change, we dont know.. We also dont know when..
      But by that comment you are IMPLYING (indirectly or directly doesnt matter) that this just around the corner.. There is no truth to that...



      If the method isnt complete then how can you say that..?
      Especially put "only a matter of time" with the wait on JB2..

      That is implying things are almost done.. when in fact they are a ways off..

      That is the issue




      I am not knocking the NEWS it self.. i just dont like how it is being reported with false claims..

      I have MUCH respect for the DEVS...
      i read it as "dont rush to buy the jb2, other options are being worked on"

      jb2 is NOT the only solution and as a scene, free, open source solutions are the way forward.

      remember psjailbreak and the way people thought it wouldnt be reversed and it would be our only option to buy it for ��$$ etc. we were told that progress was being made and to hold off buying it.....

      whats the difference with this?

    276. enohand
      10-27-2011
      04:54 PM
      277

      why is there a argument abut when it was posted?

      also who the F cares if it was posted in a way that would generate traffic, this site is ran buy adds & in order to keep it running we need traffic. (not saying it was made this way, but to play devil advocate i had to look at ti from the other side)

      now.

      the method per say was only a hypotothies in aug, i know i read it. but it wasnt no where near detailed as much as it is now

      I do feel like if it was worderd a bit better, we wouldnt have stupid newbs asking for new CFW....

      Isnt there a way to make news only being able to be posted on by people who have a certain post count? & or a join date...

      this would weed out all the newer people who are only trolling for CF@ for 3.56+

    277. EmBoLa.be
      10-27-2011
      04:59 PM
      278

      Originally Posted by enohand
      why is there a argument abut when it was posted?

      also who the F cares if it was posted in a way that would generate traffic, this site is ran buy adds & in order to keep it running we need traffic. (not saying it was made this way, but to play devil advocate i had to look at ti from the other side)

      now.

      the method per say was only a hypotothies in aug, i know i read it. but it wasnt no where near detailed as much as it is now

      I do feel like if it was worderd a bit better, we wouldnt have stupid newbs asking for new CFW....

      Isnt there a way to make news only being able to be posted on by people who have a certain post count? & or a join date...

      this would weed out all the newer people who are only trolling for CF@ for 3.56+
      I don't agree, even some DEV's came here with 0 posts, and are recently joined this sailing ship, it's not up to You to judge other ppl, only mods do, and i know that they are doing theres job as best as they can do

    278. STLcardsWS
      10-27-2011
      04:59 PM
      279

      Why couldnt it just say that..

      i read it as "dont rush to buy the jb2, other options are being worked on"
      But it doesnt read that..

      Look at how the newbs have recieved this..
      You have new threads about people excited about a new CFW.. lol..
      From this story.................

      That is the issue...

      It all can be fixed with a proper explanation...

    279. Spungy
      10-27-2011
      05:01 PM
      280

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      I do understand it..

      Let me explain to you once again..

      You are misleading the NEWBS and even some members who dont follow daily..



      This may be true, BUT thats not what it does now..

      Then ps3hax goes on to say:



      This is Also very misleading and incorrect AT THIS TIME..
      JB2 works. NOW !!!
      this method doesnt work, it is incomplete for it to work..
      Will that change, we dont know.. We also dont know when..
      But by that comment you are IMPLYING (indirectly or directly doesnt matter) that this just around the corner.. There is no truth to that...



      If the method isnt complete then how can you say that..?
      Especially put "only a matter of time" with the wait on JB2..

      That is implying things are almost done.. when in fact they are a ways off..

      That is the issue




      I am not knocking the NEWS it self.. i just dont like how it is being reported with false claims..

      I have MUCH respect for the DEVS...
      I never knew about any of this until today and it was PS3hax and this thread that helped with any questions I had. Im after learning a lot about per console key 0 and I welcome any more news about it..

      I have no intention of buying JB2 or special BD's even though I have a BD-RW that iv never used.

      This is one of the best forums online.. If your not happy with the way this post reads go somewhere else

    280. japsander
      10-27-2011
      05:02 PM
      281

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      Why couldnt it just say that..



      But it doesnt read that..

      Look at how the newbs have recieved this..
      You have new threads about people excited about a new CFW.. lol..
      From this story.................

      That is the issue...
      with all respect, the "newbs" see cfw on the horizon in ALL new things that are discovered.

      at least this has some grounding to its claims

    281. Cheesethief
      10-27-2011
      05:05 PM
      282

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      Why couldnt it just say that..



      But it doesnt read that..

      Look at how the newbs have recieved this..
      You have new threads about people excited about a new CFW.. lol..
      From this story.................

      That is the issue...

      It all can be fixed with a proper explanation...
      This is kind of getting off topic. The topic is becoming how the news was posted instead of the news itself. :S

      Newbs will always be what they are. They will not stop asking. I mean look at that banner at the top of the page that tells people the status of the scene. Do noobs pay any attention to it? No.

    282. STLcardsWS
      10-27-2011
      05:06 PM
      283

      with all respect, the "newbs" see cfw on the horizon in ALL new things that are discovered.

      at least this has some grounding to its claims
      Very TRUE !!!!

      but its being told to them now....

      Instead of saying this will lead to it..

      By saying NOT to buy JB2 that is saying this is around the corner soon..

      Can anyone say that with confidence?

      When you tell people to WAIT.. that is implying that things are right around the corner.

      This is kind of getting off topic. The topic is becoming how the news was posted instead of the news itself. :S
      Sadly this whole thread is off topic because most post are people thinking this will bring a new CFW in the coming weeks..

      ewbs will always be what they are. They will not stop asking. I mean look at that banner at the top of the page that tells people the status of the scene. Do noobs pay any attention to it? No.
      When yu say this means this for you newbs that is the issue.. Newbs were mentioned in the new post..and that info to the newb is wrong AT THIS TIME..

      Maybe true in a weeks or months... but we dont know that..
      We dont know enough to say dont buy JB2...

    283. Cheesethief
      10-27-2011
      05:08 PM
      284

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      Very TRUE !!!!

      but its being told to them now....

      Instead of saying this will lead to it..

      By saying NOT to buy JB2 that is saying this is around the corner soon..

      Can anyone say that with confidence?

      When you tell people to WAIT.. that is implying that things are right around the corner.
      I commend the writer for saying not to buy the JB2. It works, yes, but waiting a bit to see if this leads anywhere anytime soon is a good idea. It may or may not. Who knows.

    284. EmBoLa.be
      10-27-2011
      05:10 PM
      285

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      Why couldnt it just say that..



      But it doesnt read that..

      Look at how the newbs have recieved this..
      You have new threads about people excited about a new CFW.. lol..
      From this story.................

      That is the issue...

      It all can be fixed with a proper explanation...
      And what's the END GOAL of this???? well
      yep, the newbs got that right a new cfw, but i agree it's to early but still.
      As i said before
      ANY small progress is better then NO progress

    285. STLcardsWS
      10-27-2011
      05:13 PM
      286

      Bottom line this news is useless to 99.8% of us.. Will take alot of hard work. from dedicated devs.

      With that said if you want to play your 3.6X games then JB2 will be the best method for the time being.. and i bet for at least a few months if not longer...

      And what's the END GOAL of this???? well
      yep, the newbs got that right a new cfw, but i agree it's to early but still.
      As i said before
      ANY small progress is better then NO progress
      End goal
      Well to not promote something to the NEWBS that doesnt exist at this time..

      I dont disagree with reporting this news it is NEWS.... but its not newb news.. thats my issue.

    286. Cheesethief
      10-27-2011
      05:17 PM
      287

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      Bottom line this news is useless to 99.8% of us.. Will take alot of hard work. from dedicated devs.

      With that said if you want to play your 3.6X games then JB2 will be the best method for the time being.. and i bet for at least a few months if not longer...
      I would give it a month or two for sony to patch the hole with some sort of check built into the game. Then JB2 will be just another worthless dongle.

    287. Spungy
      10-27-2011
      05:20 PM
      288

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      Bottom line this news is useless to 99.8% of us.. Will take alot of hard work. from dedicated devs.

      With that said if you want to play your 3.6X games then JB2 will be the best method for the time being.. and i bet for at least a few months if not longer...


      End goal
      Well to not promote something to the NEWBS that doesnt exist at this time..

      I dont disagree with reporting this news it is NEWS.... but its not newb news.. thats my issue.
      Get over yourself

    288. STLcardsWS
      10-27-2011
      05:21 PM
      289

      I would give it a month or two for sony to patch the hole with some sort of check built into the game.
      i agree sony will try and patch it.
      Now i read someplace (sorry not sure) that even the JB2 can be unpatchable because of something with a BD-rom.. now i dont know where i saw that or how true it is...

      But yea sony will patch it.. but get your JB2 now then when it patches then maybe we see this method come to light...

      Look at this thread comments:

      You either have people saying yea new CFW is here..
      Or you have them saying JB2 is done......


      Neither is the CASE!!!


      Now if ps3hax just reported the facts, with no speculation(just report it as speculation).. how many of those type post would be here (yes there would be some no matter what it is) but it Influneced alot of that...

      Get over yourself
      Im just stating the facts... im sorry you have a problem with facts...

    289. EmBoLa.be
      10-27-2011
      05:26 PM
      290

      did anyone tried to get the per_console_key_1 and per_console_key_n
      i am not smart enough to code in linux,i had used it before on mine ps3, but thats way back, i am more of a windows guy, maybe if some of mine friends used linux, i wouldn be in this situation, but i thinkl that there are enough smart ppl out there that can make this all happen
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      1. payloader3 create new possible source of or precompiled:

      payloader3-341.pkg: http://www.multiupload.com/MB7NE5AJYC
      payloader3-315.pkg: http://www.multiupload.com/JKKZG58NOR

      2. Install payloader3 pkg on the ps3

      3. export in the terminal set
      a. export PS3LOAD = tcp: ipaddress.of.ps3
      b. start socat (socat tcp-recv: 18194 stdout)

      4. payloader3 pkg start on ps3

      5. It is quite likely to see is not the picture (black screen) but you will hear a distinct sound (like C64) Now things are different feasible:

      a. X 4eck then starts with ps3load ethdebug
      b. then you will want to circle back to the xmb and invites ethdebug (for Debuging pkg files)

      6. Use your ps3load the mode used to send your ps3 dump_eid_root_key.self (ps3load dump_eid_root_key.self) Now you should see debug Terminal in your debugging and then hopefully you'll find the PCK .. (theoretically)

      The per console key is used to derive other keys, some of which Sony can't change as this appears to be the bottom of their encryption chain. It's also important to note that this method is intended for dumping per_console_key_1 and per_console_key_n while per_console_key_0 is currently still required.

    290. Spungy
      10-27-2011
      05:28 PM
      291

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      i agree sony will try and patch it.

      Im just stating the facts... im sorry you have a problem with facts...
      Its a 29 page discussion about the facts, Iv a problem with your attitude

    291. STLcardsWS
      10-27-2011
      05:32 PM
      292

      Its a 29 page discussion about the facts, Iv a problem with your attitude
      26 pages are from people who didnt understand the story and relied on the explantion from ps3hax..
      that was very misleading...

      what they gathered was..
      New cfw coming very soon..
      and that JB2 is dead before it got started..

      Both are incorrect.. yet they got the info from the news post..

      My attitude has been fine, it just been a common sense approach...

    292. enohand
      10-27-2011
      05:35 PM
      293

      man this is ridiculous

    293. wikdclown
      10-27-2011
      05:37 PM
      294

      Ok i read ALL the post and im a newb and i didnt get that it was a insta fix more like a in the progress type of thing. And anyone with half a brain would realize sony will do away with the dongle by limiting access to the dev eboots.

      The more important thing is the news brought it to my attention so now i have something to have hopes for

    294. GregoryRasputin
      10-27-2011
      05:39 PM
      295

      Right any more crap, there will be collaborations of infractions and if need be banning.

      [MENTION=133671]STLcardsWS[/MENTION] the front page is the way it is, its going to stay that way, so quit the crying over it, nothing is going to change.

      Everyone else keep it quiet, ignoring the ignorance makes it go away......

    295. zideeq
      10-27-2011
      05:50 PM
      296

      I smell a new CFW on the way!

    296. Cage
      10-27-2011
      05:57 PM
      297

      God damn it guys...

      We are REALLY far from new CFW and open PSN.

      However we are pretty close to making playable 3.6+ games on 3.55 and custom eboots.

      This news is good for people who don't really care about online and just want to play singleplayer games.

    297. big_russ
      10-27-2011
      06:01 PM
      298

      Originally Posted by jimmyemunoz
      English please? WTF???
      it was very late i think i was having a little bit to much of a good time lol.

    298. STLcardsWS
      10-27-2011
      06:03 PM
      299

      Attention

      Stop acting like a complete retard



    299. zideeq
      10-27-2011
      06:15 PM
      300

      Sigh....I wonder how long!

    300. enohand
      10-27-2011
      06:18 PM
      301

      1 year+...or never

    301. EmBoLa.be
      10-27-2011
      06:30 PM
      302

      Originally Posted by big_russ
      it was very late i think i was having a little bit to much of a good time lol.
      Been drunk and having sex while writing???

    302. galaxypatrol
      10-27-2011
      09:22 PM
      303

      Originally Posted by Cage
      God damn it guys...

      We are REALLY far from new CFW and open PSN.

      However we are pretty close to making playable 3.6+ games on 3.55 and custom eboots.

      This news is good for people who don't really care about online and just want to play singleplayer games.

      your words = mine as well

      i've been following ps3hax since i bought my first ps3 on june, and i never found myself in the need to talk about this... Until these recent news... But I'm glad someone said what i wanted to say since I heard about these news...

    303. hamtah
      10-27-2011
      09:32 PM
      304

      I asked my Magic 8 Ball if anything good related to 3.60+ is coming, it said...

      NO. :D

      Accept the fact people, no one is doing anything. Please name on dev who is actually working on something related to 3.60+ and not just talking. I can't seem to find anyone. The scene has not progressed ever since 3.55 came out. I call progression, 3.60. You may call it, "Multiman". I know we will get something good some day, but 8 months and NOTHING?

      Glad to have a second PS3.

    304. Swish
      10-27-2011
      09:50 PM
      305

      seems like that STL guy is right in what he is saying.
      This is from ps3crunch.
      I See he had this up and it was removed.
      It seems what he said was correct. why was it censored
      The guy was told he was wrong then proved he was right.
      You get banned for things like that here? seems unfair.


      With the new release of the 'True Blue' there suddenly been a new flow of people trying to figure out the last remaining encryption keys buried inside the Sony PS3 Console, one of them is called the PER_CONSOLE_KEY if you can get this key, you and unlock more secrets and keys and basically have total control of THAT CONSOLE ONLY as each PS3 has a different key!

      Recently the PS3DevWiki has been gathering all the key information here and so not to clutter the news post, we briefly cover some of it, as this is not for the average PS3 user:



      per_console_root_key_1 / EID_root_key
      derived from per_console_key_0
      stored inside metldr
      copied to sector 0 by metldr
      cleared by isoldr
      Used to decrypt part of the EID
      Used to derive further keys
      can be obtained with a modifyed isoldr that dumps it
      can be obtained with a derivation of this key going backwards
      A detailed explanation:

      EID crypto is very complicated, it is done so on purpose first of all EID0 isn't decrypted with one key and one algorithm alone it is decrypted in several parts which use different algos and keys the keys are all derivations of a per console key (per_console_key_1)which is stored inside metldr and copied by it to sector 0 and never
      leaves isolation that same key is a derivation of the per console key (per_console_key_0) used to encrypt metldr and the bl in the first place as well

      isoldr clears that key from sector 0 before jumping to the isolated module but before doing so it encrypts it with another keyset and stores it in a buffer so that the isolated module can use the new crafted key since the operation is AES if you know that keyset you can decrypt the crafted key and get the eid root key without pwning a loader or metldr through an isolated module that is not like you really need it because you can already use the crafted key to decrypt some of eid0 but not all of it and the crafted key also uses the first elf section to be built as in your isolated module will have a small section which only contains a key and that key is used as another layer by isoldr to encrypt the buffer with it so basically you have 2 encryption layer over the root key the final key then decrypts a specific part of the EID

      eid crypto is actually done smart that is because most of it originally comes from the cell bootrom as in they reuse the same algo used for metldr binaries and bl in the eid crypto including some of the keys and the steps and you cannot decrypt all of the eid sections unless you gathered every single keys and steps and there are a lot then you still have to figure out wtf it is you decrypted because eid is actually full of keys
      Q: Does this mean the PS3 can be opened completely now and we can do whatever we want?
      A: Eventually yes, at the moment no, still more work to be done to get the Per_console_key_0 (the important key).

      This is reason to be pleased about the progress, but don't get overhyped! Might still take quite a long while before this is useful, it is progress though!

      A step-by-step explanation on the subject from VenomousX from PS3ISO:

      Ok, time to clear up some things. First of all, this has been known (or at least posted) for a few months now on the ps3devwiki, just no one bothers to check and no one bothers to SPREAD the info. While it is true that those who seek the knowledge will come to search for it and find it, this is by no mean the average joe's job.
      Anyways, how to obtain this EID_root_key?
      Patch isoldr to dump the local storage of sector 0
      Load the patched isoldr
      Dump the local storage
      You will find eid_root_key
      Use it to decrypt the eid0.
      How to load back the isoldr:
      Use glevand's tools, spp_verifier_direct to be specific:
      "spp_verifier_direct is a kernel module which shows you how to run isolated SPE modules on OtherOS++ Linux by using metldr directly.
      It decrypts default.spp profile.
      Once you get the eid rootkey, load aim_spu_module.self with eid0 and the eid root key within anergistics it will decrypt it.
      You can modify it easily to run other SPE modules.
      Has been done and tested on 3.41 and 3.55 (not by myself)
      So yes, you can obtain the eid rootkey and partially decrypt the eid0, but the problem if you want to modify the eid0 (say...to get a DEX idps to convert CEX=>DEX (which doesnt have much got use for end-users, only devs)) then you'd need to re-encrypt the EID0, which you can't. Not with those keys at least.

      Oh, and while PS3 rootkeys are per console, and usually FW independent. However I dont knw about 3.6+ because I didnt test it on it. But it might be true that 3.6+ eid rootkey have changed since $ony changed a sh!tload of keys with 3.6+. So using the 3.55 eid_root_key on 3.6+ to decrypt anything probably wont work.
      All this is very useful only for true developers to learn more, as the keys you can dump only can help to "decrypt" you can't change the contents and flash the new info with this information, and the dumping the 'zero' key is still a work in progress. -- For those that want to learn more and follow the progress check out the PS3DevWiki link below:

      NEWS SOURCE: http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?...r_Console_Keys

      Again thanks to Nayphan for starting this thread, moving it to the front page as alot of people been bugging me about it: -- Thanks to PS3HAX for the 'keys' picture!

    305. EmBoLa.be
      10-27-2011
      10:03 PM
      306

      [MENTION=7773]GregoryRasputin[/MENTION] STLcardsWS and Swish are the same person, nise try tho,
      making another user account and then defending your previous BANNED username, really lame

      first comment on this and you just joined e few minuts ago and you read abouth STLcardsWS wish was raging a few pages back, and you are defending a person you don't know, strange indeed, i feel a BAN comming

      i't dosnt make sense

      And a nise edit tho, AGAIN trying to defend your arse

    306. Swish
      10-27-2011
      10:17 PM
      307

      Originally Posted by EmBoLa.be
      [MENTION=7773]GregoryRasputin[/MENTION] STLcardsWS and Swish are the same person, nise try tho,
      making another user account and then defending your previous BANNED username, really lame

      first comment on this and you just joined e few minuts ago and you read abouth STLcardsWS wish was raging a few pages back, and you are defending a person you don't know, strange indeed, i feel a BAN comming

      i't dosnt make sense

      And a nise edit tho, AGAIN trying to defend your arse
      LOL I joined because i seen his comment censored when he proved a group wrong..

      That all..

    307. ohhwun
      10-27-2011
      10:26 PM
      308

      right.................

    308. EmBoLa.be
      10-27-2011
      10:27 PM
      309

      Originally Posted by Swish
      LOL I joined because i seen his comment censored when he proved a group wrong..

      That all..
      Yeah right, it's not up to me to make a decision, So i gonna leave it to the mods


      And how can you prove it or seen the comment if its censored,

    309. Warning
      10-27-2011
      10:28 PM
      310

      Anyone get this yet ?

    310. yeh_im_here
      10-27-2011
      10:29 PM
      311

      Originally Posted by Swish
      LOL I joined because i seen his comment censored when he proved a group wrong..

      That all..
      I Seriously dont know what you see through your eyes but dude read the whole thread and get a basic understanding about the ps3 scene, he was censored after a warning , why because he was trolling with his ridiculous comments. I had to indue his c0ckiness and read through the whole thread and it ticked me off. He didnt prove a group wrong , any person can translate or put the words in to his head and understand it the way they want. but the way you and him translate the meaning is stupid .your actually making yourself look ridiculous btw.

    311. Swish
      10-27-2011
      10:42 PM
      312

      Attention

      STLcardsWS grow the hell up, seriously, how damn immature do you have to be, to create a new account to argue that your suspended account is right, stop being a little baby and get over the fact that you are wrong, seek professional help for your narcissism and get a life, any more crap like this and i will turn the three week suspension on your STLcardsWS account to a permanent one



    312. defyboy
      10-28-2011
      01:18 AM
      313

      I don't think this is a step closer to discovering the per-console root key. The EID root key is generated at factory and incorporated into metldr. metldr is encrypted with your per-console root key and stored on flash. Please note that while it is speculated that the EID root key is a derivative of the root key, that does not mean that it can be used to calculate the root key. Infact, being able to do so is idiotically counter-intuitive of the purpose of having two separate keys.

      The per-console root key is likely burnt into the CPU via One Time Programming over the JTAG port, of which is disabled after programming. There is a hardware decryption routine that uses this key called Runtime Secure Boot, you cannot access or invoke this routine because it only runs when you load an encrypted image into an isolated SPU.

      This is IBM's design, not sony's. This was designed to be a very secure multi-purpose processor and it was designed by a company that designs security and military systems for governments and large organisations, not a company that mostly makes consumer grade TV's and DVD Players. It was Sony's implementation of the secure chain of trust that failed but I don't see IBM's part failing anytime soon.

      This paper explains everything: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/po...-cellsecurity/

      Because of the root key's importance in keeping all other keys hidden, it must be robustly protected. The Cell BE processor accomplishes this with its Hardware Root of Secrecy. The root key is embedded in the hardware, and you cannot access it with software means; only a hardware decryption facility has access to it. This makes it much more difficult for software to be somehow manipulated so that the root key is exposed, and of course, the hardware functionality cannot be changed so that the key is exposed.
      Anyway, Sony cannot change metldr or bootldr on current hardware so they no longer have control of those, we only need to dump bootldr to get the lv0 key, this is the highest level sony can change. If we get the lv0 key we can generate a private key where we will be able to decrypt/re-encrypt the entire chain of firmware for current/future firmware.

    313. Sabinrene
      10-28-2011
      01:28 AM
      314

      Sorry to dissappoint but according to a few good sources of mine we are not really closer to new cfw then we were few months ago. yea a lot more new guys try to make stuff happen now...but please dont get your hopes up.

    314. Rixevo
      10-28-2011
      01:50 AM
      315

      I have a question.......

      In pretty much every thread i have read it always turns into a fight, i have two kids one aged 3 and one aged 6 and they dont fight near as much as some people i have seen on this scene!!

      I must admit tho it is pretty amusing some days!!

      oh yea my question is....

      WHY?

    315. H3avyRa1n
      10-28-2011
      02:47 AM
      316

      great to see that the last pages of this thread are worthless reading.. *sigh*
      maybe you can use them to create a script to a mexican soap opera (no offense to the mexicans)

    316. erexx
      10-28-2011
      03:20 AM
      317

      Originally Posted by defyboy
      Anyway, Sony cannot change metldr or bootldr on current hardware so they no longer have control of those, we only need to dump bootldr to get the lv0 key, this is the highest level sony can change. If we get the lv0 key we can generate a private key where we will be able to decrypt/re-encrypt the entire chain of firmware for current/future firmware.
      Yes, that's the theory under the 3rd bullet point on the front page for "under per_console_root_key_0" copied from the wikidev.

      -metldr is decrypted with this key
      -bootldr is decrypted with this key
      -might be obtained with per_console_root_key_1?
      (largely speculative, not nec. true - need more looked into,
      only based on the behavior of the other derivatives known to be obtained through AES)

      They are close enough to the core metal of the system that they are starting to directly take on IBM's engineering team.
      Good stuff. When they are done it should give IBM something to think about...

      Sony's USB Jig and Microsofts plain text DVD firmware both addons to IBM technology.

      Originally Posted by H3avyRa1n
      great to see that the last pages of this thread are worthless reading.. *sigh*
      maybe you can use them to create a script to a mexican soap opera (no offense to the mexicans)
      None taken.
      We personally love MariMar in this house... Seriously... rags to riches to revenge and sorrow... what more is there?

    317. FortyThieves
      10-28-2011
      11:46 AM
      318

      Originally Posted by bigo93
      This just dumps a few console keys, they are not system master/root keys.
      You also have to remember that the keys then have to be decrypted before they can make any use of them

      This article has been over-hyped and any real user usable application probably wont be available until some time after the new year!
      Too bad i might just get the e3 flasher then...

    318. TheEvolution_PT
      10-28-2011
      02:19 PM
      319

      Also a 'hidden hint' at the top of here:
      http://ps3devwiki.com/index.php?titl...318&oldid=6316

      (you have all you need already ;-) just read carefully (compare option2 code with the kernel module code))

    319. EmBoLa.be
      10-28-2011
      03:16 PM
      320

      Originally Posted by TheEvolution_PT
      Also a 'hidden hint' at the top of here:
      http://ps3devwiki.com/index.php?titl...318&oldid=6316

      (you have all you need already ;-) just read carefully (compare option2 code with the kernel module code))
      Ans did you get your per_console_key_0?

    320. TheEvolution_PT
      10-28-2011
      03:26 PM
      321

      Originally Posted by EmBoLa.be
      Ans did you get your per_console_key_0?
      No im just sayin

    321. georgeana100
      10-30-2011
      05:12 AM
      322

      i think we are 100 miles away from a new cfw with no car and on a difficult road :S. no hopes for me yet!

    322. zecoxao
      10-30-2011
      05:52 AM
      323

      I've been visiting the irc chans lately, and AFAIK, and what was told to me, is that there are two ways of getting cfw on the latest ofw:

      One of the ways is by finding said key, the per_console_key_0. What we assume
      is that per_console_key_1 derives from per_console_key_0, meaning that per_console_key_1 has a source on per_console_key_0, or in other words, the inverse of key_1 is key_0. Now, we don't know that for sure, we also don't know if there are further derivations of per_console_key_1, so it's a guessing game.

      The second way, already achieved by one person, perhaps more, is pwning metldr. Many of you don't like the guy who has achieved that, but, truth be told, he has done it, and has inclusively given you hints on how to do it... His name is Mathieulh. If i'm not mistaken, the sum up of those hints is on ps3devwiki as well, under something entitled "Mathieulh Overflow Exploit". I suggest you take a good read at it...

      Any corrections to what i've said would be apreciated and taken into account.
      And don't forget twitter is a good place to collect info aswell.

    323. wikdclown
      10-30-2011
      06:29 AM
      324

      IMO there should never be a cfw for the current ofw because you know it would only be a matter of time before someone released some sort of cheat software to absolutely ruin online games. If people want online they should really be on ofw.

      All we need is some way to sign current and future games for 3.55 but i wish the devs who put their time into this the best of luck.

    324. georgeana100
      10-30-2011
      06:59 AM
      325

      i totally agree that cheats on online sucks hard but in order to play for example 2 online games on ofw you need 100euros.too much for me

    325. shak360
      10-30-2011
      12:35 PM
      326

      just some updates from the wiki

      Boot Sequence

      Power on : syscon boots from it's internal (non-encrypted / dual banked) ROM *1 *2
      + syscon powers up various power subsystems
      + syscon powers up cell and checks status
      + syscon sends Cell configuration ring to Cell
      + syscon pulls the reset of Cell high -> Cell INIT
      Cell INIT: CELL boots from it's internal ROM *2
      + Initialises I/O
      + fetches encrypted bootldr off NAND/NOR flash (at address 0xFC0000)
      + Initialises RAM
      + loads bootldr into Isolated SPU (SPE0)
      + Runtime Secure Boot decrypts and verifies bootldr and executes
      + bootldr decrypts lv0 which runs on PPU -> loaders INIT
      loaders INIT: lv0 loads metldr (SPE2)
      + passes lv1ldr (which loads lv1) to metldr
      + passes lv2ldr (which loads lv2) to metldr
      + passes appldr (which loads vsh) to metldr
      + passes isoldr (which loads *.iso_spu_module) to metldr
      + passes rvkldr (which loads rvkprg / rvklist) to metldr
      1) Read/Writeable with undocumented / should also be read/writeable through serial port and possible to switch it to the backup bank1 with backup_mode pulled high
      2) CEX/Retail consoles go to standby with red light. SEX/SHOP/SECH will not standby, but instead boot through without waiting for powerbutton. Also check is done on all models if update is flagged to set it into firmware updating procedure
      3) Partialy Read/Writeable
      about the disabled SPE: syscon reads it�s internal (non-encrypted) eeprom @ 0x48C30 which is value 0�06 on all CEX/Retail consoles and will set the cell config ring accordingly for 7 SPE�s. SPE0 and SPE2 are reserved for bootldr and metldr for isolation respectively. Setting the value to a nonworking state (e.g. 0�00, 0xFF, enabling a defective SPE or disabling a needed SPE for proper boot) might brick the console, locking you out from restoring the correct value to the syscon eeprom.

      Changes in firmware 3.60

      Lv0 has now been changed, LV0 now appears to encapsulate all of the loaders (appldr, isoldr, lv1ldr, lv2ldr). Now in order to break the chain of trust we need to be able to decrypt/exploit LV0 which at this time has not been done.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Also if anyone has paid attention to the gitbrew - glevand has posted tons of documentation.

    326. TheEvolution_PT
      10-30-2011
      01:03 PM
      327

      Originally Posted by shak360
      just some updates from the wiki

      Boot Sequence

      Power on : syscon boots from it's internal (non-encrypted / dual banked) ROM *1 *2
      + syscon powers up various power subsystems
      + syscon powers up cell and checks status
      + syscon sends Cell configuration ring to Cell
      + syscon pulls the reset of Cell high -> Cell INIT
      Cell INIT: CELL boots from it's internal ROM *2
      + Initialises I/O
      + fetches encrypted bootldr off NAND/NOR flash (at address 0xFC0000)
      + Initialises RAM
      + loads bootldr into Isolated SPU (SPE0)
      + Runtime Secure Boot decrypts and verifies bootldr and executes
      + bootldr decrypts lv0 which runs on PPU -> loaders INIT
      loaders INIT: lv0 loads metldr (SPE2)
      + passes lv1ldr (which loads lv1) to metldr
      + passes lv2ldr (which loads lv2) to metldr
      + passes appldr (which loads vsh) to metldr
      + passes isoldr (which loads *.iso_spu_module) to metldr
      + passes rvkldr (which loads rvkprg / rvklist) to metldr
      1) Read/Writeable with undocumented / should also be read/writeable through serial port and possible to switch it to the backup bank1 with backup_mode pulled high
      2) CEX/Retail consoles go to standby with red light. SEX/SHOP/SECH will not standby, but instead boot through without waiting for powerbutton. Also check is done on all models if update is flagged to set it into firmware updating procedure
      3) Partialy Read/Writeable
      about the disabled SPE: syscon reads it�s internal (non-encrypted) eeprom @ 0x48C30 which is value 0�06 on all CEX/Retail consoles and will set the cell config ring accordingly for 7 SPE�s. SPE0 and SPE2 are reserved for bootldr and metldr for isolation respectively. Setting the value to a nonworking state (e.g. 0�00, 0xFF, enabling a defective SPE or disabling a needed SPE for proper boot) might brick the console, locking you out from restoring the correct value to the syscon eeprom.

      Changes in firmware 3.60

      Lv0 has now been changed, LV0 now appears to encapsulate all of the loaders (appldr, isoldr, lv1ldr, lv2ldr). Now in order to break the chain of trust we need to be able to decrypt/exploit LV0 which at this time has not been done.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Also if anyone has paid attention to the gitbrew - glevand has posted tons of documentation.
      Thanks for the info, i pray for the lv0 get unlocked.

    327. defyboy
      10-30-2011
      01:10 PM
      328

      Originally Posted by zecoxao
      The second way, already achieved by one person, perhaps more, is pwning metldr. Many of you don't like the guy who has achieved that, but, truth be told, he has done it, and has inclusively given you hints on how to do it... His name is Mathieulh. If i'm not mistaken, the sum up of those hints is on ps3devwiki as well, under something entitled "Mathieulh Overflow Exploit". I suggest you take a good read at it...
      metldr has been dumped by a few people, we need to dump bootldr for the lv0 keys. This would enable us to decrypt all future firmware. The problem with dumping bootldr is that it is cleared very early in the boot process.

      No matter the situation, you will not have a CFW that will install on 3.60+, you will still need a hardware flasher.

    328. Pockets69
      10-30-2011
      01:12 PM
      329

      defyboy nice to see you back and posting mate, thanks for the info listen to this guy he knows what he says

    329. shak360
      10-30-2011
      01:55 PM
      330

      But couldn't we exploit the keys and use them on 3.55 - and keep the base of the fw

      or am i jus talking rubbish
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by Pockets69
      defyboy nice to see you back and posting mate, thanks for the info listen to this guy he knows what he says
      how come i can't upload pix tried from imageshck also?

    330. jc_gargma
      10-30-2011
      02:29 PM
      331

      Originally Posted by wikdclown
      IMO there should never be a cfw for the current ofw because you know it would only be a matter of time before someone released some sort of cheat software to absolutely ruin online games. If people want online they should really be on ofw.
      There was cheaters online before PS3 CFW/dongles were around and there will still be online cheaters regardless of a new CFW or not.
      I accept that I cannot play online on CFW as a result of online cheaters, but it doesn't mean I like accepting it.
      Originally Posted by georgeana100
      i totally agree that cheats on online sucks hard but in order to play for example 2 online games on ofw you need 100euros.too much for me
      I don't see your logic in how the price of a game is related to cheating online.
      Originally Posted by defyboy
      No matter the situation, you will not have a CFW that will install on 3.60+, you will still need a hardware flasher.
      Really? Guess I better start reading up on my Teensy2.0++ tutorials, assuming its a sufficient board.

    331. OoZic
      10-30-2011
      02:54 PM
      332

      Originally Posted by shak360
      how come i can't upload pix tried from imageshck also?]
      PNG files are not supported

    332. shak360
      10-30-2011
      03:01 PM
      333



      i re-upped as a jpg?

    333. EmBoLa.be
      10-30-2011
      03:59 PM
      334

      Originally Posted by shak360


      i re-upped as a jpg?
      i think bmp

    334. OoZic
      10-30-2011
      04:04 PM
      335

      Originally Posted by shak360


      i re-upped as a jpg?
      Ow sorry, forgot this also: imageshack gives problems

      http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=6359

    335. zecoxao
      10-30-2011
      04:31 PM
      336

      [MENTION=148739]defyboy[/MENTION], i didn't say dump metldr, that has obviously been done by tons of people, i said pwn it, like exploit it, and find some vulnerabilities in it...

      Edit: If we manage to get the last key, we'd still need a custom bootldr made and signed by ourselves to actually start enjoying the good stuff. And making a custom bootldr takes quite some time and patience...

    336. jackieboy8
      11-04-2011
      10:54 AM
      337

      I really don't want to complain but when I was reading this news a couple weeks ago or so I thought that some new Hax where on it's way. But serious does someone know when we can do something with this big news

    337. loller
      11-04-2011
      11:31 AM
      338

      Originally Posted by defyboy
      metldr has been dumped by a few people, we need to dump bootldr for the lv0 keys. This would enable us to decrypt all future firmware. The problem with dumping bootldr is that it is cleared very early in the boot process.

      No matter the situation, you will not have a CFW that will install on 3.60+, you will still need a hardware flasher.
      Gitbrew claim to have dumped bootloader 3 or 4 month ago....have you all forgot the news on all site's home page?

    338. defyboy
      11-04-2011
      01:16 PM
      339

      Originally Posted by zecoxao
      [MENTION=148739]defyboy[/MENTION], i didn't say dump metldr, that has obviously been done by tons of people, i said pwn it, like exploit it, and find some vulnerabilities in it...

      Edit: If we manage to get the last key, we'd still need a custom bootldr made and signed by ourselves to actually start enjoying the good stuff. And making a custom bootldr takes quite some time and patience...
      There isn't much point, metldr is too low in the boot chain to worry about. bootldr or LV0 is what we need.
      We don't need to do much to bootldr, we only wan't to dump it so we can get the LV0 key, we assume this has the same signature fail.

      Originally Posted by loller
      Gitbrew claim to have dumped bootloader 3 or 4 month ago....have you all forgot the news on all site's home page?
      They dumped the encrypted bootldr off a NAND console in software, something that wasn't possible before. Those of us with hardware flashers have had encrypted copies of bootldr for a long time.

    339. steve30x
      11-15-2011
      07:34 PM
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      Originally Posted by SmartLaughCOL
      Don't buy a one with +356 FW BASE
      I wont have a coice in the matter what firmware will be on the console> I will be buying a brand new PS3 slim so I wont know what firmware is on it until I boot it up.

    340. Aifah0qua
      11-15-2011
      10:00 PM
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      if i remember if we get the root key then we can fully decpted 3.56+ ofw then encpted it with 3,55 keys . root key is the mother keys of all which sony cant change only by hardware

    341. wtfTroll
      11-16-2011
      05:35 AM
      342

      Originally Posted by steve30x
      I wont have a coice in the matter what firmware will be on the console> I will be buying a brand new PS3 slim so I wont know what firmware is on it until I boot it up.
      You can check the model