• PSN, Uncategorized , 04.11.2011

    It’s been confirmed that game sharing on PS3 is going to be scaled down this month. At the moment, you can purchase nearly any game on the Store, and up to four other people will be able to play it as long as your account is activated on their PS3. However, from November 18th, this will be scaled down to two. That’ll include the machine the content was originally downloaded on, and one other.

    You’ll get four activations in all though, 2 on PS3 and 2 on PSP. If you’re picking up a Vita, you’ll hopefully get 2 more as well. The good news is that you’ll now be able to handle activations online, and select which consoles you want to remain active. It’ll save the headache of contacting Sony’s customer service, at least.

    It’s clearly been put in place to protect the developers, who haven’t been too happy about the game sharing rules in the past. However, it’s worth noting that anything bought before the 18th doesn’t fall under the new rule, and you’ll be able to play as normal even if it wasn’t your account the content was purchased on.

    Most PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Portable download titles can currently be activated and played on five systems. That’s about to change.

    We’d like to inform you of some upcoming changes to the usage policies for PlayStation Network game content. As of November 18, 2011, the number of devices that can be activated on one PlayStation Network account for game content purchased from the PlayStation Store will be updated.
    For game content purchased after November 18, 2011, a new policy will apply and the number of devices that can be activated will be as follows:

    • PS3: Users will be able to play the game on up to 2 activated PS3 systems.
    • PSP: Users will be able to play the game on up to 2 activated PSP systems.

    Please note that this update will not affect game content purchased before November 18. The PSP rights include PSP-1000/2000/3000 series as well as the PSPgo system.
    PlayStation Network users are able to change the activation setting through each device, and Sony Computer Entertainment plans to provide a new PlayStation Network account management website where users will be able to deactivate particular devices attached to their PlayStation Network account via their PC.

    Source Official EU PS Blog

    Via ThePlaystationClub

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  • 102 Comments

    1. DzhoPS3HAX
      11-04-2011
      06:41 AM
      1

      it s criminal....

    2. big_russ
      11-04-2011
      07:00 AM
      2

      well its right. you cant go in to lets say a game shop get a copy of lets say fifa 12 go home burn it 5 times and give them all to your mates.look they can see they are at a lose so they will try and stop it.and it will stop all the crying that's been going on at hax lately.:P

    3. Fl3th3r
      11-04-2011
      07:01 AM
      3

      Yet another great idea from sony,you'd think they out of ideas how to screw customers over.

    4. carldenning
      11-04-2011
      07:03 AM
      4

      on a good note we can disactive our acconts ourself via pc you cant really blame them droping it down to 2 when they started having proper games in the ps3 store .the devs dont wanna loss out money

      also the 5 accont thing was never made for gamesharing . gamesharing is abusing the system . really we lucky they giving us 2 slots because we be able to disactive the accont ourselfs ,we dont need any slots apart from one ,as the 5 slot thing was becuse we couldnt disactive the accounts ourself , so they gave us 5 slots incase we needed them .so really there not scewing anyone . we was screwing them by game sharing ,

    5. Sawatis
      11-04-2011
      07:08 AM
      5

      woa, can you say bend over for sony? lol personally i dont care that much i dont game share my stuff much ..except with good friends with cod dlc witch we would split on the map pack.. ... i still think thats really stupid tho.... from 5 to 2.....

      ...All Sony needs now is a pair of Rapist glasses..

      Rapist Glasses - YouTube

    6. GregoryRasputin
      11-04-2011
      07:10 AM
      6

      The PS3 wasn't invented to run back ups, it wasn't invented to run homebrew, everyone is happy about it doing that, but then state that " it wasn't intended to be shared amongst friends", now that's damn hypocritical....

    7. carldenning
      11-04-2011
      07:12 AM
      7

      Originally Posted by Sawatis View Post
      woa, can you say bend over for sony? lol personally i dont care that much i dont game share my stuff much ..except with good friends with cod dlc witch we would split on the map pack.. ... i still think thats really stupid tho.... from 5 to 2.....

      ...All Sony needs now is a pair of Rapist glasses..

      Rapist Glasses - YouTube
      maybe they should of done 5 to 1 cos really we dont need 2 slots lol

    8. cyberdude
      11-04-2011
      07:14 AM
      8

      as cartman would put it......'sony needs to buys us dinner,we like to be wined and dined befor we get ****ed up the ass!'

    9. carldenning
      11-04-2011
      07:18 AM
      9

      also people who been scammed on gamesharing before ,looks like be able to get you acconts back cos you can disactive that accont .

    10. Brenza
      11-04-2011
      07:20 AM
      10

      ok, no, emh....
      I think sony is doing everything possible to make people near to piracy!




      Anonymous, you've to attack, NOW!

    11. Mackdanny
      11-04-2011
      07:20 AM
      11

      SILVER LINING: less complaints and spammed threads about one of our
      Members scamming the other

    12. Sawatis
      11-04-2011
      07:21 AM
      12

      Originally Posted by carldenning View Post
      maybe they should of done 5 to 1 cos really we dont need 2 slots lol
      yea... they should make it so it can be used by one console...(SARCASM)

    13. GregoryRasputin
      11-04-2011
      07:21 AM
      13

      Originally Posted by carldenning View Post
      maybe they should of done 5 to 1 cos really we dont need 2 slots lol
      Are you high ?

      people with say three PS3's in the one house, will need to BUY the crap over again, its not right and anyone that has homebrew or back ups on their PS3's and agree with this crap, get rid of your CFW and update to 3.73.

      Then continue to enjoy getting rammed in the ass, continuously by Sony...

    14. carldenning
      11-04-2011
      07:25 AM
      14

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      Are you high ?

      people with say three PS3's in the one house, will need to BUY the crap over again, its not right and anyone that has homebrew or back ups on their PS3's and agree with this crap, get rid of your CFW and update to 3.73.

      Then continue to enjoy getting rammed in the ass, continuously by Sony...
      it was ment as a joke . i would pefer to have 5 slots than 1 or 2

    15. GregoryRasputin
      11-04-2011
      07:28 AM
      15

      Originally Posted by carldenning View Post
      it was ment as a joke . i would pefer to have 5 slots than 1 or 2
      That can be arranged.......

    16. carldenning
      11-04-2011
      07:29 AM
      16

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      That can be arranged.......
      now im lost lol

    17. GregoryRasputin
      11-04-2011
      07:30 AM
      17

      Originally Posted by carldenning View Post
      now im lost lol
      You didnt state PSN account, you stated YOU

      i would pefer to have 5 slots than 1 or 2

    18. carldenning
      11-04-2011
      07:32 AM
      18

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      You didnt state PSN account, you stated YOU
      very funny m8 ,

    19. OoZic
      11-04-2011
      07:33 AM
      19

      $ony HQ is just like every government in the world....

      They have some employees brainstorming every day what rights (they gave us) can be taken away to let us understand we are only slaves to their system...

      Well $ony chiefs and country dictators, within time we will occupy the whole world if you continue stealing from us !!!

    20. _hansi_
      11-04-2011
      07:34 AM
      20

      Now, even the activation policy for xbox live sounds good...

    21. GregoryRasputin
      11-04-2011
      07:36 AM
      21

      Originally Posted by carldenning View Post
      very funny m8 ,

      I do agree that it will cut down on the scammers/abuse.

      But its the families that have more than one PS3 in the house, it just sucks, its one more thing Sony has taken away from us, one more thing in a list of many...

    22. carldenning
      11-04-2011
      07:43 AM
      22

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      I do agree that it will cut down on the scammers/abuse.

      But its the families that have more than one PS3 in the house, it just sucks, its one more thing Sony has taken away from us, one more thing in a list of many...
      very true ,familes are the one's who will be affected more .

    23. Wolfie708
      11-04-2011
      07:47 AM
      23

      I think it's a good and bad idea even though I never use PSN anyways so I am only looking at it from the game devs side.

      It's good as it limits the unpaid sharing of full games, and more quality full games seem to be getting released via PSN now than in the past.

      It's bad as DLC (map packs etc) should not be limited in the same way as if I buy a game I should be able to have ALL the content for it included in the price I paid for the game.

      It all boils down to licensing really, and whichever way we look at it, the license we purchase when we buy a game is for One copy of that game (one copy being played at any given time). Regarding Gregs point of more than one PS3 in a house then it should be unlimited to the same IP address in my opinion as the license should be per location and not per console.

    24. bigo93
      11-04-2011
      07:52 AM
      24

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      Are you high ?

      people with say three PS3's in the one house, will need to BUY the crap over again, its not right and anyone that has homebrew or back ups on their PS3's and agree with this crap, get rid of your CFW and update to 3.73.

      Then continue to enjoy getting rammed in the ass, continuously by Sony...
      Well publishers would love to have the law changed so that all software can only be installed on one machine.

      I remember buying my first windows licence, when I found out that it could only be installed on one PC I was, "wtf?! Why do I have to buy another copy, I just bought one!"

      And we are already seeing it, games already being sold with online activation keys, which can only be used once. Sure you can still sell the game on, but if that person wants to play online now they have to phone up and buy a new key!

      And how many kids chip in to buy games because they cant afford it alone, one week you have it, next week they have it, and back again. Publishers would love to stop you from lending your games to your mates as your friend gets to play it for free, they dont want you to! If they could make games like the mission impossible mission reports and destroy themselves after being used, they would. And if you need to reinstall it on your system again, tough luck new laws say that you bought a licence for one installation, buy a new copy for further installations.

      Just like music cds, you arent buying the song, you are buying the right to listen to that song from that cd, hence why is some countries it is illegal to even backup your own cds even if it is for personal use!
      hence why itunes downloads only work on itunes and apple devices, you bought the licence to listen to them only on those devices, try and play them on another device and they wouldnt play.

      Now wasnt the point of the 5 downloads so that you could share the games with your friends and play with them online, yet this now seems to be the complete opposite of that statement, cos either we only have 2 ps3s, or only 1 friend.

      Also I hear Home is getting its revamp today, will check that out on my ofw PS3 later, just remember sony before I "agreed" to your TOS, I had my fingers crossed but before I could press the button myself, my cat walked over my controller so it'c actually my cat who agreed to your TOS, and also that letter I send that read "by opening this letter you have agreed that I am no longer bound by your TOS" well I guess it got lost in the post, but anyway if you did get it you cannot complain, read the smallprint of the other side of the letter.
      I know it's funny that you had to agreed to something without knowing and that you probably would not have agreed to it if you were able to read the terms before agreeing, but hey, if it's legal for corporations to do it it should be legal for individuals as well

    25. GregoryRasputin
      11-04-2011
      08:00 AM
      25

      Originally Posted by bigo93 View Post
      Now wasnt the point of the 5 downloads so that you could share the games with your friends and play with them online, yet this now seems to be the complete opposite of that statement, cos either we only have 2 ps3s, or only 1 friend.
      No it ws never to share with friends, it was so that you could share with people in the same house, or say you had a PS3 in your living room, bedroom and toilet.

      But now your going to have to poo without playing

      This is a money thing, nothing else :/

    26. Reaper87
      11-04-2011
      08:02 AM
      26

      Unfortunately for Sony a move like this could potential lead to increased in pirated PSN content. Why would you buy an item off the store again that you have already bought once... I'm guessing most people will go for the piracy option if it is available to them.

    27. big_russ
      11-04-2011
      08:09 AM
      27

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      No it ws never to share with friends, it was so that you could share with people in the same house, or say you had a PS3 in your living room, bedroom and toilet.

      But now your going to have to poo without playing

      This is a money thing, nothing else :/
      well yes that's what i was saying.1 dev's games on psn'.if you got a game from a shop it's for your own use.2 if you get that same game of psn you can give up to 5 of your mates.hell iv been going 1/2 on map pack's forever so im gutted but i can see what they are doing it for.it all come's down to money.

    28. SkaWarrior
      11-04-2011
      08:40 AM
      28

      If there isn't a limit in how many times I can activate and deactivate a system I'm not hugely bothered by this. I don't mind deactivating a system whilst I use the content elsewhere if I can reactivate it again later.
      Effectivly my DLC could follow me around to whatever PS3 I happen to be playing on wether it's a family member's or friend's. When I get home I deactivate that system and recalim my second slot again ready for use next time.

      Something tells me Sony won't like this though and deactivation will be permenant

    29. hanzoverfist
      11-04-2011
      08:53 AM
      29

      Originally Posted by carldenning View Post
      it was ment as a joke . i would pefer to have 5 slots than 1 or 2
      was worried for a moment!
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      No it ws never to share with friends, it was so that you could share with people in the same house, or say you had a PS3 in your living room, bedroom and toilet.

      But now your going to have to poo without playing

      This is a money thing, nothing else :/
      exactly, no more lan parties basically ... your friends don't need to bother
      with bringing his/her PS3 to your house any longer.

      The good side of this is kids will play more outside now. They can share a ball and a stick and a glove to play whatever sport they prefer, and sony can't interfere/limit/diminish that!

      [MENTION=3918]Sony[/MENTION] - play with you tinny little world all you want!

    30. EmBoLa.be
      11-04-2011
      09:08 AM
      30

      what's next???, maybe a paid subscription for psn like xbox live...
      and yes i know of psn plus, but psn is free for now, untill they are going to change it

      i am 100 procent sure that with the ps4 this is going to happen

    31. VIRGIN KLM
      11-04-2011
      09:22 AM
      31

      Ha!
      Yet another thing that I predicted it would happen just 2 weeks ago.
      Not only I predicted that it would happen but I predicted the exact number of reduction.
      Sony is sooo predictive... ...or I should consider a carreer shift on being a medium.

    32. Wolfie708
      11-04-2011
      09:35 AM
      32

      Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM View Post
      Ha!
      Yet another thing that I predicted it would happen just 2 weeks ago.
      Not only I predicted that it would happen but I predicted the exact number of reduction.
      Sony is sooo predictive... ...or I should consider a carreer shift on being a medium.
      So when do I win millions and marry a beautiful blonde then?

    33. TylerDurden92
      11-04-2011
      09:38 AM
      33

      Yea guys, this kinda sucks, but you have to admit that being able to have your account activated on 5 systems was a bit excessive. Sony has just as much of an obligation to protect its developers as it does oblige their customers (and I'm a guy who has multiple PS3's, and uses game sharing); yea some things they've done as of late regarding ToS and sh**ing a brick over CFW is a bit rediculous, but this shouldn't be referred to something's that's out of hand or anything.

      On the bright side, you can still have 1 more active system on your account than Xbox (and all of my friends with those have survived without game sharing), and being able to control activated systems through computer will be very convenient. I wouldn't get too excited about that feature though, it wouldn't be a surprise at all if Sony limited the number of time you could activate/deactivate a system, or any systems, per year or indefinitely.

    34. H3avyRa1n
      11-04-2011
      09:50 AM
      34

      well done genious..

    35. Shezed
      11-04-2011
      09:50 AM
      35

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      So when do I win millions and marry a beautiful blonde then?
      Does she have to be blond?

    36. VIRGIN KLM
      11-04-2011
      09:52 AM
      36

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
      So when do I win millions and marry a beautiful blonde then?
      My magic sphere is out if order, I'll tell you when it's working...
      XD

    37. Shezed
      11-04-2011
      09:54 AM
      37

      Originally Posted by TylerDurden92 View Post
      Yea guys, this kinda sucks, but you have to admit that being able to have your account activated on 5 systems was a bit excessive. Sony has just as much of an obligation to protect its developers as it does oblige their customers (and I'm a guy who has multiple PS3's, and uses game sharing); yea some things they've done as of late regarding ToS and sh**ing a brick over CFW is a bit rediculous, but this shouldn't be referred to something's that's out of hand or anything.

      On the bright side, you can still have 1 more active system on your account than Xbox (and all of my friends with those have survived without game sharing), and being able to control activated systems through computer will be very convenient. I wouldn't get too excited about that feature though, it wouldn't be a surprise at all if Sony limited the number of time you could activate/deactivate a system, or any systems, per year or indefinitely.
      Aye aye captain, would you like to join the dark side matey?

    38. eiamhere69
      11-04-2011
      09:56 AM
      38

      Maybe we should list all the features we have (remaining) on the PS3. Every month we could hold a poll and the highest vote submitted to Sony for removal.

      This way Sony might spend less time destroying it's fan-base and a little more on customer service.

      I have never, and will never by and PSN, dlc, Etc. I also intend to educate my son as he grows older, that just because a corporation can slowly manipulate the market and it's customers for it's own gain, doesn't mean that he has to support them - morally or financially

    39. klbarnes1
      11-04-2011
      10:03 AM
      39

      Its not the point that 5 may be alot. They gave that to us, that was their decision, and now to take it away, what a joke. I'm sooooo close to selling my ofw ps3. I may put it on craigslist right after I post this!

      -Its the point that its sony, once again taken away something they gave us! F U SONY!

    40. mosstopher
      11-04-2011
      10:11 AM
      40

      Devils advocate, how many people really have more than 2 PS3s on OFW? The lending to your friends (you know, Friends share irl items eg a baseball glove) argument doesn't work either, try to remember that when you share a baseball glove, you don't get to make a copy of it and give it to your friends.

      People paying 1/2 each will still work, just mean that everyone will have to share the game a bit more restrictively than before, i.e. 2 have it one night, 2 have it the next, just want to remind you all that this happens to be the same way I used to share my Mega drive games with my friends in the past.

      It's not that big a deal, and in fact is still a better deal than the past and as I understand it a better deal than 360 users get?

    41. Wolfie708
      11-04-2011
      10:19 AM
      41

      Originally Posted by Shezed View Post
      Does she have to be blond?
      She can be any colour at all!! lol

      Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM View Post
      My magic sphere is out if order, I'll tell you when it's working...
      XD
      You are just teasing me now lol

    42. japsander
      11-04-2011
      10:22 AM
      42

      as long as i can deactivate consoles from pc then i dont care.

      its not going to be hard to login > deactivate > activate another console if im at a friends house

      and if i have another faulty console im not stuck with begging them to deactivate (which they refuse to do)

      gamesharers will not get away with stealing accounts as easily either

    43. marnik
      11-04-2011
      10:34 AM
      43

      people who say 1 slot would be enough, no
      what if your parents are divorced like mine ...

    44. japsander
      11-04-2011
      10:50 AM
      44

      Originally Posted by marnik View Post
      people who say 1 slot would be enough, no
      what if your parents are divorced like mine ...
      what does that have to do with your account if you can deactivate the other console from a pc without having to be at the console?
      but i agree 1 is not enough, 2 is imo, that way if you have 2 consoles at home you can both play at the same time

      1 has always been enough for 360 though

    45. ikefix
      11-04-2011
      10:52 AM
      45

      It claims for... VENDETTA¡¡¡¡¡¡

    46. VideoX
      11-04-2011
      11:11 AM
      46

      In the times of cartridges and not-so-tough-licenses I could trade games, knew some others, sell the games I didn't like at the time, lend games among family and friends, have hours of entertainment.

      If Sony gave us 5 copies (they are indeed copies, that you can send to your friends) for, how many years since PS3 & PSN launch date? 6 years?, then why the hell are they taking that away now?.

      If they have lots of games on PSN now, then that's theirs issue, not ours. People like to have material things (games, dvds, bds, boxes, printed manuals, etc.), not that ****ty virtual thing stored in an encrypted device (the PS3 HDD).

      Good luck Sony & Kazou Hirai, you just destroyed a very powerful and limitless brand.

      Ken Kutaragi is going to perform a hara-kiri, if he hasn't done so.

      P.S.: Remember, this all started when they took away the OtherOS feature.

    47. psg
      11-04-2011
      11:29 AM
      47

      I am all for critisizing Sony -- or any other corporation for that matter -- for doing something unethical, or plain money grubbing. But most replies seem to be written by opportunists that are way too happy to beat down on Sony for about anything, without really having understood what's going on.

      Or maybe I am just wrong, and don't see where the problem is. Because as it looks to me, you can still have two PS3s with the games on them, and, should you want to play it at a different location, all you have to do is deactivate one of your PS3s online, and you are good to go.

      I read someone complained in the name of people with three plus PS3s in the house. Now, honestly, who has three, or more, PS3s in the house, that belong to them? And even then, the answer is so very, very apparent, and easy: "Play the game on one of your other PS3s. Or deactivate one of them online." While the latter might be a slight hassle, the first isn't.

      Sony is just protecting themselves, their developers, and some stupid users from loss. This is actually quite understandable, and a very common practice in the gaming world.

      Piracy is bad, but where's the difference in letting 5 people practically own the game, that haven't bought it? Morally, there's little to none.

    48. klbarnes1
      11-04-2011
      11:41 AM
      48

      Originally Posted by psg View Post
      I am all for critisizing Sony -- or any other corporation for that matter -- for doing something unethical, or plain money grubbing. But most replies seem to be written by opportunists that are way too happy to beat down on Sony for about anything, without really having understood what's going on.

      Or maybe I am just wrong, and don't see where the problem is. Because as it looks to me, you can still have two PS3s with the games on them, and, should you want to play it at a different location, all you have to do is deactivate one of your PS3s online, and you are good to go.

      I read someone complained in the name of people with three plus PS3s in the house. Now, honestly, who has three, or more, PS3s in the house, that belong to them? And even then, the answer is so very, very apparent, and easy: "Play the game on one of your other PS3s. Or deactivate one of them online." While the latter might be a slight hassle, the first isn't.

      Sony is just protecting themselves, their developers, and some stupid users from loss. This is actually quite understandable, and a very common practice in the gaming world.

      Piracy is bad, but where's the difference in letting 5 people practically own the game, that haven't bought it? Morally, there's little to none.
      Thank You Sony-Fanboy! The problem is they gave us 5, now they are taking that away. It doesn't matter what we may need, its the fact they are once again taking something away from us that they gave us. Like they always do! How is this right/moral? I don't think you want to use morraly in the same paragraph with Sony. Thats just a joke! Is sueing everyone that wants to work on a console they bought, moral? When you talk about sony morals get thrown out the window!

    49. psg
      11-04-2011
      11:45 AM
      49

      Originally Posted by klbarnes1 View Post
      The problem is they gave us 5, now they are taking that away.
      They aren't legally, or morally, obligated to give you more than one. They aren't taking anything away, as the games that you bought prior to the change, still have the same limitation as before. You haven't lost anything.

    50. itskamel
      11-04-2011
      12:00 PM
      50

      well this sucks. just like sony. give something then take it away.

    51. Annelies
      11-04-2011
      12:06 PM
      51

      It doesn't really matter to me.

    52. jarmster
      11-04-2011
      12:20 PM
      52

      i have 2 ps3 at my place. one jb, the other not.My ofw, i use often, the jb one lost the licences for my psn content flagging it. My other 3 spots, i shared with a stranger(not anymore), my ex wifes kids(rarly used), and a personal friend(everytime a new cod map comes out).
      Im not to upset with 2 slots, i know which slots will get used by which ps3's...

    53. GregoryRasputin
      11-04-2011
      12:24 PM
      53

      Originally Posted by psg View Post
      They aren't legally, or morally, obligated to give you more than one. They aren't taking anything away, as the games that you bought prior to the change, still have the same limitation as before. You haven't lost anything.
      The take away the ability to continue to share your account with the three other members of your house hold that have PS3's.


      I love the fan boys, ""yes Sony, slowly demolish what you originally gave me, i quite enjoy you shafting me in the ass"".

      I take it none of you remember, that Sony was going to implement locking a disc to a console, meaning that it could only be played in the one console, meaning that you couldn't lend that disc to a friend, or you couldn't trade it/sell it.

      But indeed, those of you that are fan boys, or those of you saying "oh this doesn't affect me", when Sony implements something like that in the future, don't come crying about it, just sit there and say ""thanks Sony, than you for your pee pee in my bum hole"".

    54. Fl3th3r
      11-04-2011
      12:28 PM
      54

      Originally Posted by itskamel View Post
      give something then take it away.
      they actually should replace their “It Only Does Everything.” to this .

    55. GregoryRasputin
      11-04-2011
      12:30 PM
      55

      Originally Posted by Fl3th3r View Post
      they actually should replace their “It Only Does Everything.” to this .

      They did replace that cathcphrase.

    56. psg
      11-04-2011
      12:40 PM
      56

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      The take away the ability to continue to share your account with the three other members of your house hold that have PS3's.
      Ah, yes, those 5 PS3 households. Quite common, are they?

      I am not a "fanboy," I have absolutely no affiliation with the brand, other than enjoying their console (amongst my 360, Wii and my high-end gaming pc). I am just an adult with common sense.

      You have to choose your battles. Crying over this is pointless. It shouldn't affect you in any way. The old games you have bought, you can still play on all 5 PS3s in your house. The next ones, I guess, you will have to play on only 2 of the 5 PS3s in your house at a time, or not buy them at all.

      Sony taking away OtherOS: Them taking something away. Removing functionality of something existing.
      Sony limiting future game-slots: Removing something in the future. Optional to you. If you don't want to support their decision, don't buy the game. Or buy it and live with only being able to play it on 2 out of the 5 PS3s in your household.

    57. jarmster
      11-04-2011
      12:46 PM
      57

      And just what do want people to do about it greg. You can ***** till your blue in the face, but isn't going to change a damn thing and you know it......Has it yet?

      Just cause i can accept it and live with it doesn't make me a fanboy.

      Maybe stuff like this wouldn't have happened if game sharing wasn't blatently allowed in certain watched forums....you know the sayin "out of sight out of mind"
      You can say what you want in regards to Sony's original idea behind game sharing but i'll bet sharing all your downloaded psn content with 4 other people was not the plan. MOST people do not have more then 1 ofw ps3 in their home.

    58. GregoryRasputin
      11-04-2011
      12:56 PM
      58

      Originally Posted by psg View Post
      Ah, yes, those 5 PS3 households. Quite common, are they?
      Actually it is

      Originally Posted by psg View Post
      I am just an adult with common sense.
      Being an adult with common sense = being Sony's b*tch, then i dont want to be an adult.....


      Originally Posted by psg View Post
      Sony taking away OtherOS: Them taking something away. Removing functionality of something existing.
      Sony limiting future game-slots: Removing something in the future. Optional to you. If you don't want to support their decision, don't buy the game. Or buy it and live with only being able to play it on 2 out of the 5 PS3s in your household.

      I definitely think you are on the wrong forum, you should head this way -------------> http://uk.playstation.com/ps3/



      Not directed at you, but directed to all people with the attitude that Sony is right taking features away:

    59. carldenning
      11-04-2011
      01:29 PM
      59

      Originally Posted by psg View Post
      Ah, yes, those 5 PS3 households. Quite common, are they?
      ive got 4 ps3 is my house , but there all mine thought

    60. bigo93
      11-04-2011
      01:36 PM
      60

      Originally Posted by psg View Post
      Ah, yes, those 5 PS3 households. Quite common, are they?
      Indeed, they are a lot more common that you would actually think!

      I bought a faulty PS3 from ebay, the guy lived pretty close so went there to pick it up. Whilst there had a chat, and he then told me they got 3 Xbox 360s as well and each kids had a live account! Yet seeing the area he lived in and way he was dressed, you'd think he'd be lucky to have a PSOne!

      Gaming is largest and faster growing market, I thin kit was the only one the grow during this recession whilst all other markets fell. And parents like the fact that it gets their kids out of their hair for hours, which is why kdis these days are so disrespectful, as many let TV and games raise their children.

      I myself have 3 PS3s for me alone, one ofw, one cfw, and one still on 3.15 with otheros, I know I can upgrade to 3.55 and get the better distros, but kindda like that I still have a 3.15 console, and orginal $ony console with nothing taken away from it (if you dont count the 2 usbs, memory card slots, and ps2 bc). If I had a kid then you can bet they'd want one in their room.

      So even though a family may not look like they can afford even one console, they'll save up and get one eventually. Though here in the UK the amount of benefits they get they can get whatever they want cos the government will gladly pay them...

      Regarding this though, I've never bought anything from psn so doesnt affect me. If $ony hadnt done what they have done for the last year to their customers, I doubt many of us would have cared, yes we'd complain a little but we'd say we understand they are trying to save money. Well unfortunately $ony have screwed all their customers so many times over the last year that this just add to that.

    61. brunospfc
      11-04-2011
      02:28 PM
      61

      its like the 1000****nh reason that, in the next generation, i'm going microsoft, cause if i will be raped anyway, may it be with professionals....and who wanna bet, GTA5 will be xbox exclusive? :D

      Psone and Ps2 must be sad sad in heaven, watching what Sony did with Ps3

    62. Annelies
      11-04-2011
      02:38 PM
      62

      Originally Posted by brunospfc View Post
      and who wanna bet, GTA5 will be xbox exclusive? :D
      That is dumb. You realize that Rockstar Games would actually lose money if they did that?...

      Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk

    63. abud
      11-04-2011
      02:42 PM
      63

      Bunch of greedy retarded...

    64. brunospfc
      11-04-2011
      02:49 PM
      64

      Originally Posted by Annelies View Post
      That is dumb. You realize that Rockstar Games would actually lose money if they did that?...

      Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk
      No, you're dumb, maybe you missed the "1 year" gta 4 expansions EXCLUSIVE for XBOX...do you think this is over? dont be naive

    65. Annelies
      11-04-2011
      03:06 PM
      65

      Originally Posted by brunospfc View Post
      No, you're dumb, maybe you missed the "1 year" gta 4 expansions EXCLUSIVE for XBOX...do you think this is over? dont be naive
      Do you really think that Microsoft would pay Rockstar more money to make it exclusive than the money Rockstar would have made if it was multiplatform? That is millions of PC, PS3 and probably Wii U users who would have bought it.

      Look at what they're losing if they made it exclusive... DLC is a different story dude...

      Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk

    66. Yargh82
      11-04-2011
      03:07 PM
      66

      I just want to know if the stuff, which I activated already from other Account will work after 11/18.

    67. yourgrandma
      11-04-2011
      03:28 PM
      67

      meh i didn't even realize you could activate it on more than one console at a time in the first place... even if you do own FIVE ps3's i doubt your going to playing that same game on all FIVE consoles at the same time. You can just deactivate and reactivate on another console so this really isn't a big deal and only hurts the people abusing the system.

    68. SuperDre
      11-04-2011
      04:15 PM
      68

      I really don't see the problem, as you can deactivate a game through the website, so you can install it on as many PS3's, but only on 2 at the same time..I personally hate people who do stuff like DLC/gamesharing (and play them at the same time, which you can't if you have a physical disc)

    69. jp_cfc09
      11-04-2011
      04:25 PM
      69

      lol knew this was going to happen sooner then later, im happy as long as all my things ive already activated stays there. a well we cant conplain we have got away with this for longer then i thought we would and mostly because we couldnt remotly deactive them ourselfs if a ps3 got broke, thats my reason for thinking they kept it there so long and now we can they are thinking we wont need 5 no more.

      ps. still hate the B******'s

    70. VideoX
      11-04-2011
      05:24 PM
      70

      Sony has earned lots of enemies and angry costumers this year.

      Stuff like DLC and expantion packs shouldn't be items for sale. It's like you buy an incomplete game and then you have to buy the other things to complete it. Before, this never would have happened. They release unfinished games on PSN for selling and they want you to buy the other pieces.

      Now, you can't share your "intangible" games anymore.

      Really, this is the first time I say this: "Sony, you are loosing some bunch of costumers" (as my brother and me had bought lots of games for all your consoles). Sad, really sad.

    71. Dominator7
      11-04-2011
      07:01 PM
      71

      Well, at least we shall be able to deactivate a broken console via PC!

    72. malex
      11-04-2011
      07:50 PM
      72

      WOW, it's incredible how in 1/3 of a gaming gen sony has managed to destroy the love and respect I had for them. God knows I've always detested other sony electronics because they are overpriced pieces of regular crap (not bad, but NOT worth what they ask), but the playstation side I thought was just pure genius.

      I felt the psx saved me from the horrible N64 (which NOW I appreciate more), and the utter joy I got from the PS2 can only be compared to what I got out of the SNES.

      Anyways, no it's not right. Sony need to learn to own up to their actions and stop this whole bait n' switch crap; and dismissing this is just like all those idiots who dismissed the removal of OtherOS as no biggie. If they don't plan to follow through with their ideas then don't start.

      Sony should be forced to buy back the ps3s of those of us who feel the ps3 is too different in it's current feature set then it was when we bought it. Sure they've added some features, but the removal of features have been solely for their benefit.

      What's even more laughable is that ZERO pirates will be bothered by this, and they will still keep playing games. The only ones who will suffer the effects of this are people that actually pay for their games; regardless of whether they get together with 2 friends to buy DLC or not, at least they are still buying. As always, the gaming industry (to be fair is not only sony) proving yet again that piracy is the easiest way to enjoy gaming.

      Sony and gameloft are on my ish list. I won't say never, but it's going to be highly doubtful I ever buy a product from either company... they need to remember something, I pay them for their products, they don't give them to me.

      P.S. Not saying I endorse piracy, but for example, the only way I've been able to play one of the gameloft games that I've bought for my android phone has been to download a copy off the web... yes that's right, I bought a damn game and I had to pirate it in order to play it.

    73. $n!pR
      11-04-2011
      08:07 PM
      73

      Good I can finally reactive my account once the site is up to deactivate the YLOD PS3.

    74. mosstopher
      11-04-2011
      08:52 PM
      74

      I'm not gonna comment anymore on this story other than to say if your best argument is "you're a fanboy" then you've already lost!

    75. Shezed
      11-04-2011
      09:18 PM
      75

      Originally Posted by malex View Post
      WOW, it's incredible how in 1/3 of a gaming gen sony has managed to destroy the love and respect I had for them. God knows I've always detested other sony electronics because they are overpriced pieces of regular crap (not bad, but NOT worth what they ask), but the playstation side I thought was just pure genius.

      I felt the psx saved me from the horrible N64 (which NOW I appreciate more), and the utter joy I got from the PS2 can only be compared to what I got out of the SNES.

      Anyways, no it's not right. Sony need to learn to own up to their actions and stop this whole bait n' switch crap; and dismissing this is just like all those idiots who dismissed the removal of OtherOS as no biggie. If they don't plan to follow through with their ideas then don't start.

      Sony should be forced to buy back the ps3s of those of us who feel the ps3 is too different in it's current feature set then it was when we bought it. Sure they've added some features, but the removal of features have been solely for their benefit.

      What's even more laughable is that ZERO pirates will be bothered by this, and they will still keep playing games. The only ones who will suffer the effects of this are people that actually pay for their games; regardless of whether they get together with 2 friends to buy DLC or not, at least they are still buying. As always, the gaming industry (to be fair is not only sony) proving yet again that piracy is the easiest way to enjoy gaming.

      Sony and gameloft are on my ish list. I won't say never, but it's going to be highly doubtful I ever buy a product from either company... they need to remember something, I pay them for their products, they don't give them to me.

      P.S. Not saying I endorse piracy, but for example, the only way I've been able to play one of the gameloft games that I've bought for my android phone has been to download a copy off the web... yes that's right, I bought a damn game and I had to pirate it in order to play it.
      i LOVE PIRACY altho i dont have pirated games yet.. honestly i dont, i would never buy my games digitally again though like on steam or origin. simply for 3 reasons 1 i pay the same but no dvd/bd manual(printd) or cover) 2 i must sacrefice 4-50GB of my HDD assuming i get 1TB for $100 0.4%-5%x$100 i have to pay to store the stuff sure sure you can redownload 3 what if the game is no longer supported or must make room for newer titles on their server burn it myself? that also costs money so essentially you pay more for digital content. everyone who ever bought dlc =moron(including myself 2 years ago lol) or preorder Battlefield 3 before its even released(digitally) EA gets money while you still have shyt

    76. VIRGIN KLM
      11-04-2011
      09:24 PM
      76

      Actually I'm glad they did it, even though they prove that their actual policy is deriving from costumer not offering or adding up.
      Now gamesharing section can be retired once and for all and gamesharing will be history and our mods can have a rest from the gamesharing retardation latelly overtaken the forum.
      Gamesharing-whores, I'm sorry but game is over, now you can leave the forum if you are not interested in what it's actually made for; hacks.

    77. KillerBug
      11-04-2011
      09:46 PM
      77

      Be happy...with the current TOS, they could just as easily reduce your current games to 1 share, or no shares, or just block use all together...and I am sure they will get to that soon enough.

    78. erexx
      11-04-2011
      10:07 PM
      78

      One step forward and 3 steps back.
      Sony Sucks.

    79. hanzoverfist
      11-04-2011
      10:09 PM
      79

      Originally Posted by malex View Post
      Sony should be forced to buy back the ps3s of those of us who feel the ps3 is too different in it's current feature set then it was when we bought it. Sure they've added some features, but the removal of features have been solely for their benefit.


      On the subject of buy back, if MS had jumped in and offered PS3 owners a swap option to the XBOX 360 , I would have been first in line.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by KillerBug View Post
      Be happy...with the current TOS, they could just as easily reduce your current games to 1 share, or no shares, or just block use all together...and I am sure they will get to that soon enough.
      Yeah well that's the next step, they need something to take away tomorrow,

      IT ONLY DOES NOTHING IT WAS INTENDED FOR!

    80. jc_gargma
      11-04-2011
      10:16 PM
      80

      I hope that new PSN deactivation website can remove PS3 and PSPs that aren't able to be plugged into a PC, or otherwise access the PSN (such as YLOD, brick, CFW, lost, etc) to be removed from the account, since the current website cannot.

    81. KillerBug
      11-04-2011
      10:20 PM
      81

      Originally Posted by hanzoverfist View Post
      IT ONLY DOES NOTHING IT WAS INTENDED FOR!
      It only does games...assuming the Sony firmware updates haven't killed it yet.

    82. jc_gargma
      11-04-2011
      10:25 PM
      82

      Originally Posted by KillerBug View Post
      It only does games...assuming the Sony firmware updates haven't killed it yet.
      Sony does like to play lots of games. *giggles*

    83. Boston617
      11-04-2011
      10:58 PM
      83

      All I want to do is remove my account from my/friends PS3's that have been hit with the YLOD assassin. The ability to choose online should have been there in the first place.

    84. marty370
      11-05-2011
      03:23 AM
      84

      Considering Piracy of PSN games is screwing over Sony and devs.

      Still better than rival systems.............

    85. KillerBug
      11-05-2011
      03:52 AM
      85

      Originally Posted by marty370 View Post
      Considering Piracy of PSN games is screwing over Sony and devs.

      Still better than rival systems.............
      While there is a good deal of gamesharing around here, you seem to forget the original intention...if you buy a game, you should be able to use it on whatever system you are at. Personally I know more than 5 people with PS3s, so even 5 accounts is not enough...2 accounts is BS. I can bring my disk games and play them on any of those systems.

      As a bonus, gamesharing sells content. I know more than a few people who have large PSN collections who wouldn't be anything if it were not for gamesharing...the prices are all about 5X more than they should be to begin with.

      ...And let's not forget...if you want to pirate PSN games, you don't need to buy them at all...you can just pirate them.

    86. bluewolfknight
      11-05-2011
      05:29 AM
      86

      same here. i disagree too. i used to bring my BR-Disc GAME when i'm with my cousins house and play it on their ps3. so i think this isn't good. sony really sucks and they're ****sh**

    87. hax3ps
      11-05-2011
      06:52 AM
      87

      anyways who plays his games on 5 different consoles except pirates or trophy hackers ?

      also this is a response to the psn games hacking that hurts the devloppers. so the ones who suck are, IMO, not sony but the hackers who broke the DRM protection of psn games.


      anyway this is a really great feature that will benefit everyone, other than gamesharers of course

    88. ZOMBIEKILLAH
      11-05-2011
      08:37 AM
      88

      Those on CFW have the advantage .If you don't like Sony FKin u take it back for good ! You don't need to settle & de activate a PS3 every week cause Sony want to rape you ! Own your DLC for LIFE ! You know what to do in this case (DELETE THE ACTIVATED & REPLACE WITH PERMANENTLY ACTIVATED DLC I sure do have 3 PS3s & was thinking to get a 4th to bad for SONY i own my DLC 4 life -> By by & that's all folks !

      ==============(Own you're S H I T = This is a no renting ZONE ! )==============

    89. malex
      11-05-2011
      01:10 PM
      89

      Originally Posted by Shezed View Post
      i LOVE PIRACY altho i dont have pirated games yet.. honestly i dont, i would never buy my games digitally again though like on steam or origin. simply for 3 reasons 1 i pay the same but no dvd/bd manual(printd) or cover) 2 i must sacrefice 4-50GB of my HDD assuming i get 1TB for $100 0.4%-5%x$100 i have to pay to store the stuff sure sure you can redownload 3 what if the game is no longer supported or must make room for newer titles on their server burn it myself? that also costs money so essentially you pay more for digital content. everyone who ever bought dlc =moron(including myself 2 years ago lol) or preorder Battlefield 3 before its even released(digitally) EA gets money while you still have shyt
      I don't really mind buying games through digital distribution... DLC I'm not a fan of. Sure the idea is good, but as with anything else, the what it was meant to do and what it actually does are totally at odds.

      DLC was supposed to "ADD" to the game, when we know that 98% of the time it's quite the opposite, games will have things yanked out only to sell them off later as DLC. I know there's more, but only example of good DLC strategy I can think off is Burnout.

      As far as piracy, the ps2 taught me I'm not a good pirate since I shift from playing games to collecting them. I rather play my games, so I don't bother... This of course doesn't mean I don't understand the different reasons why people do pirate.

      Originally Posted by KillerBug View Post
      ... I know more than a few people who have large PSN collections who wouldn't be anything if it were not for gamesharing...
      I LOL quite often when I think sony actually think that by doing things like this they will turn pirates into paying customers. On the contrary, as I said before, it only makes pirating games make more sense.


      Originally Posted by hax3ps View Post
      anyways who plays his games on 5 different consoles except pirates or trophy hackers ?...
      Ummm... that would be anybody with more than 5 friends with ps3s. Still, the true significance just went over your head I assume.

    90. ryukster
      11-05-2011
      08:07 PM
      90

      Yes! If this works the way I think it will, I should be able to retrieve all my psn purchases I would otherwise be unable to access due to my account being activated on other consoles I don't have access to.

    91. bluewolfknight
      11-05-2011
      09:54 PM
      91

      i think because of this, sony just made people near to piracy. coz probably me, instead of buying this game juz for 2 consoles, i'd rather juz wait for pirated games as i would have to play on whatever and wherever console i wanted it to play to.

    92. ace3602k
      11-06-2011
      08:10 AM
      92

      Y DONT YOU ALL GET XBOX360

    93. GregoryRasputin
      11-06-2011
      08:11 AM
      93

      Originally Posted by ace3602k View Post
      Y DONT YOU ALL GET XBOX360

      Most of us do

    94. Pockets69
      11-06-2011
      08:43 AM
      94

      sooo sony... uh this is your answer to npdrm algorythm being cracked or what? is this like **** it they can crack almost every game so lets reduce their privileges? well nice sony push more people to piracy.
      Sincerely i do not give a **** anymore... sony always takes the wrong step... and it seems they do it on purpose...

    95. iDelete
      11-06-2011
      09:59 AM
      95

      I see that they are trying to make the situation better, but they must be smoking pot. Instead of making it better, they're making it worse.

    96. malex
      11-06-2011
      02:37 PM
      96

      It goes beyond smoking, inhaling, injecting something... what they are doing is tantamount to throwing a bucket full of jet fuel at a fire expecting to put out the flame.

    97. DigitalP1R4t3
      11-06-2011
      09:51 PM
      97

      This is complete BS. I don't even like the term game sharing. What about those of us who have 3 4 or 5 machines in our own homes. This is bull**** for us legit machine owners.

    98. sickboy1138
      11-07-2011
      12:10 AM
      98

      just deleted a long post that would try and talk sense.

      but it was a waste of time when I realized that this topics only function is to make you feel more justified in pirating.

      "we here at this site dont condone piracy, but we'll tell you how to do it"

      "How DARE they do that as we not only take back what they took, but take more than we bought"

      Im all for rejecting big business, not buying hype, and and owning what I pay for.. but cmon

      is it really that hard to download the content to however many PS3 you want but only keep 2 activated when it will be easy to deactivate/activate?

      I have 2 PS3s at home and one at work and often activate/deactivate content on friends. this is a nonissue unless you are a game sharer or just want another reason to hate sony.

    99. jc_gargma
      11-07-2011
      05:26 AM
      99

      Originally Posted by sickboy1138 View Post
      just deleted a long post that would try and talk sense.

      but it was a waste of time when I realized that this topics only function is to make you feel more justified in pirating.

      "we here at this site dont condone piracy, but we'll tell you how to do it"

      "How DARE they do that as we not only take back what they took, but take more than we bought"

      Im all for rejecting big business, not buying hype, and and owning what I pay for.. but cmon

      is it really that hard to download the content to however many PS3 you want but only keep 2 activated when it will be easy to deactivate/activate?

      I have 2 PS3s at home and one at work and often activate/deactivate content on friends. this is a nonissue unless you are a game sharer or just want another reason to hate sony.
      Or, you have 3 PSPs (like I do) and wonder why this automatically makes you a criminal for keeping all 3 activated.
      Gamesharing isn't the the same for PSPs as having a PS3. A PS3 can have a separate PSN account activated for every user account on that PS3, and all DLC/games are playable on any user account on the system.
      A PSP can only have 1 PSN account linked to it at a time, meaning PSP owners are less likely to gameshare, as online play would not be possible with your own account.
      Worse, activating and deactivating a PSP more than a couple times causes Sony to ban the console, as they suspect shady activities, making the risk of changing accounts dangerous.

    100. iDelete
      11-07-2011
      10:19 PM
      100

      Originally Posted by ace3602k View Post
      Y DONT YOU ALL GET XBOX360
      I might. The PS3 scene is full of retards who have no experience with what they are doing to their customers. When they come up with ideas, they need to think about the income and the outcome. Example is as follows:

      Person 1: I have an idea! Should we reduce the gamesharing from 5 PS3's to 2?
      Person 2: I honestly don't know. Some users enjoy gamesharing with family and friends...
      Person1: True.
      Person 2: Should we ask the community for opinions?

    101. Loraine321
      11-07-2011
      11:09 PM
      101

      well its right. you cant go in to lets say a game shop get a copy of lets say fifa 12 go home burn it 5 times and give them all to your mates.look they can see they are at a lose so they will try and stop it.and it will stop all the crying that's been going on at hax lately.:P
      __________________

    102. Slira
      12-10-2011
      02:59 PM
      102

      wait everyone! what if the second person deactivates there ps3 can the 3erd person download the game from the first person who down loaded the game. it clearly states that the second ps3 needs to deactivate their console. when i tryed this feature it didnt work but im still looking for a loop hole can some one brain storm with me on this!? i just want my red dead redemption game!!! i got the second person to deactivate theirs why isnt this working! HELP !