November will be the PS3′s sixth birthday and there is no doubt that Sony are thinking about or planning their next console, which will start rumours flying around, Kotaku have learned some details of Sony’s next gen console, whether these details turn out to be true, only time will tell, here are some of those rumours:
- Codename/Working Name – Orbis
- Release Date – Holiday Season 2013
- CPU – AMD x64 CPU
- GPU – AMD Southern Islands GPU
Not a lot of detail, but considering this is a rumour and the ‘PS4′ probably wont be released for at least another two years, only time will tell, the sooner developers get their hands on devs machines, the closer we will be to learning machine specs, anyhow, here are some more details, some of what seem a bit controversial:
- Orbis games will have a resolution up to 4096×2160.
- It will be able to play 3D games in true 1080p.
- It wont be able to play PS3 games.
- Will lock new games to a PSN account as an anti-used games measure, thus killing off the possibility to buy pre-owned games.
- Games will be on Blu Ray or downloaded straight from PSN/SEN or whatever they decide to call it by then.
Silly fact.
Vita is Latin for Life, whilst Orbis is Latin for Circle, so when the Orbis is released, the two combined will complete the “Circle Of Life” :p
UPDATE
Kotaku have managed to get hold of an image, that seems to be a feature of the Orbis:
UPDATE 2
Some new images courtesy of Kotaku
03-28-2012
10:47 AM
Interesting.
03-28-2012
10:49 AM
Orbis Plus AMD 64 (hope a bulldozer or some octocore) = FTW
03-28-2012
10:51 AM
While the inability to play PS3 games is somewhat understandable if they are completely redoing the architecture of their machine, it still makes me angry. But no used games, and even games bought on discs still being locked to an SEN account. Sony can **** off. Way to do what your publishers want versus your customers.
03-28-2012
10:55 AM
I was planing on buying a ps4 on day 1.
If this info is true. I do not think I will.
03-28-2012
11:04 AM
You can't win against an i7 or an octo (PC) So i wish the next wave of consoles have more user friendly interface and more solid communication/interaction with any PC.
03-28-2012
11:04 AM
"Orbis games will have a resolution up to 4096×2160.
Will lock new games to a PSN account as an anti-used games measure, thus killing off the possibility to buy pre-owned games.
Games will be on Blu Ray or downloaded straight from PSN/SEN or whatever they decide to call it by then."
What planet are they living on? The 7900 GPUs are powerful but, 4096x2160 is quite a stretch. They would need to offer a free connection service to effectively implement account locking. I don't know about anyone else but, I'd rather not sit around and wait for a 20GB download if I could go to the store and pick up a copy.
03-28-2012
11:07 AM
the future = non tangible edition games anymore, no more boxes no more nothing. All *direct to drive* thing.
Personally i will hate to have more than 500gb of games purchased on a server of sony (in this case).
03-28-2012
11:16 AM
I don't care if it can't play PS3 games. I like how out of nowhere, people started complaining about BC this gen. Nobody complained when the Gamecube couldn't play N64 games. >.<
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03-28-2012
11:19 AM
Dont forget, the PS4 will have "Biometric" controllers too.
03-28-2012
11:21 AM
"Orbis games will have a resolution up to 4096×2160" if you believe that then you will believe that it comes with 2 HDMI ports.
03-28-2012
11:22 AM
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03-28-2012
11:29 AM
but the cool thing about gamecube was the feature to use as a control game boy advance.
:P
03-28-2012
11:30 AM
Sony : the most secured console ever made,we bring you playstation 3
PS3hax :finaly we hacked the playstation 3
Sony : okey,let's make a new console...
03-28-2012
11:31 AM
Multiple ports would be required to push out a resolution like the one suggested.
I think people have starting thinking about how computers have backwards compatibility to as far as you please, whether it's through emulators, native support, a secondary OS, or patches.
At Gregory: Are you sure? My 20GB only has one HDMI port.
03-28-2012
11:31 AM
If Sony and MS are going down the "no more pre owned games" route, I'll go back to PC gaming.
Cant be ****ed paying £50-100 a month for games...
Give me pre owned PC crap instead.
03-28-2012
11:40 AM
i hope it can't play ps3 games either. and i hope ps4 games come on drm dongles.
03-28-2012
11:41 AM
03-28-2012
11:43 AM
If this does turn out to be true, I may have to invest a little more into PC gaming :P
03-28-2012
11:47 AM
Who in their right mind would own Ps4 with knowing all that? Anti backward compatibility, not allowed to play pre ordered games. All those "lock" things that seem to be against all consumers. It's like they saying F U to all of us. And the resolution that high? You would have no way to even use the system. There is no tv cheap enough to go that high in resolution. Unless you got a 120 inch and even then I don't think that's big enough for that.
03-28-2012
11:54 AM
No PPC, no PS4 for me.... If I want to have an AMD processor I will buy a second PC and not a closed game console manufactured by some Fuhrers who think they can control my life
Intel/Nvidia is my way to go for PC power/graphics...
Said it before, still thinking about the Wii-U as next console
Btw, if you use SLI those resolutions can be reached
03-28-2012
11:56 AM
The only single TVs and monitors capable of the resolution are $10,000+.
At Oozic: Using SLI or Crossfire would result in higher console cost, power consumption, the need for good cooling, and a larger overall size of the console to make room for the cooling.
03-28-2012
11:56 AM
ps4 doesn't even need to come out, we can last until 2020 if they just drop an enormous amount of good games.
03-28-2012
11:59 AM
It really does need bc though. i had a feeling next generation of gaming might suck...(if this is all true). It's just gotten too big so we need another suck period to weed out people just trying to fit in with others.
03-28-2012
12:08 PM
28" to 60" 4K TV's no need for an 120" monstrosity.
http://www.astrodesign.co.jp/english...410-a#section5
03-28-2012
12:16 PM
Anything past 1080p seems too far off to be thinking of currently. Personally I see no need for end users to have that high of a resolution these days. Maybe more so into the future.
Our eyes can only see so much. Then again, i remember it like it was yesterday everybody was bashing HDTV saying how there's no difference and they liked their SDTV just fine. Still hear people saying that but i've managed to convert many nay-sayers into the goodness of HD etc.
Also, I'd like to say I will not be buying this closed down unit but, who knows in the future. Everything is all rumours right now so there's really no point in being all pro or against.
03-28-2012
12:20 PM
My dream to have a console with AMD CPU and still have to download games from the PSN / SEN --'
03-28-2012
12:21 PM
Sounds too beaner to me!
03-28-2012
12:28 PM
Vita/Orbis = Vida Circular or La Orbita de la Vida (Orbit of Life) = Not precisely to life circle or cycle of life.
Orbis (Latin) = refers to Orbita (spanish)
P.s: I know spanish and Latin and both have various similarities.
Hope Microsoft don't use latin too for any future proyect..so cliche.
03-28-2012
12:38 PM
Whatever Sony decide to do with it, unless it can play PS3 games they can suck my hairy bits lol, and even if it does I will wait and buy one second hand as they sank their boat for me and support/respect with their attitude in the last 18 months
The PS3 was fun, but if I want better game-play and specs, I will just build a decent gaming PC.
03-28-2012
12:39 PM
03-28-2012
12:42 PM
Tell that to game developers, even with a decent system or high end. Alan wake was released 1 month (or more) ago.
So as far we have decent systems, they went multiplatform. Don't give a damn about developing something worth to *buy* always the top priority is consoles in terms of new releases.
Call me pedantic, but it's funny. I will wait to see the final product, such name means = big thing or big let down.
03-28-2012
01:23 PM
the future of gaming is goin to be a weird 1 alright & also, if this is true (and the same goes for the next xbox/future of gaming - anti-second hand game drm), its game over for me!
03-28-2012
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03-28-2012
01:39 PM
One day we all will be playing Fallout for real.
03-28-2012
01:41 PM
03-28-2012
01:53 PM
UPDATED ARTICLE ON THE FRONT PAGE.
03-28-2012
03:12 PM
"Will lock new games to a PSN account as an anti-used games measure, thus killing off the possibility to buy pre-owned games."
That is basically Sony's way of telling me not to buy a PS4 until it gets hacked.
I want the option to buy used and i want the option to play on more they one ps3 without having to be signed in. If this ends up being true i can only hope no one buys any. Maybe lowest console sales ever would convince Sony to care about their customers again
03-28-2012
03:15 PM
03-28-2012
03:30 PM
I know if the rumours of valve makein a console (steambox) are true that's what I'm buying think about it Microsoft and Sony don't alow user made mods skyrim / half-life /orange box but if valve came into the console market all that could change that's my 2cents anyway
03-28-2012
03:33 PM
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03-28-2012
03:40 PM
Sounds fake too me. Not even sony are stupid enough to have a resolution that 99.99% of people will not be able to afford.
The graphics card would have too be massively powerfull and not used.
Dont even get me started on second hand games ......
Rich
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03-28-2012
03:59 PM
meh.
10 chars
03-28-2012
04:38 PM
I highly doubt that restitution will be the default . It is probably something like the ps3 supports lower resolution like 480p lower + up to 1080p. This could be just the maximum resolution it can put out. People don't be dumb ,don't buy SEN games from Sony ! When you press the (BUY) button "YOU ARE PRESSING THE => (RENTING) THE GAME BUTTON" !
That is all i need, a PS3 controller on the XboX & i am all good ! The controller makes the console in my book. If a controller is perfect for you ,them your game play will be to. The lack of controller choices is my reason to have sold, my XboX in the past.
The SEN games is tied & activated = Sony's control , haven't you are who bought them PSN learned your lesson yet.? I did ,i have not bought a game in 8 months from sony/PSn/SEN. You are throwing your money away=(YOU DON'T OWN IT, OR MOVIES !). Buy your games from the store. You don't have any strings attached = No activation, you can play your game without needing Sony to activate the game offline ! If the retail game tied to SEN would be true ,sorry but buying a PS4 = You are being a fool ! Not being able to play PS3 games or used games just makes no sense at all . What does Sony expect people to do if they sell there PS4 ? That is ok we will just throw our money & our games away !!
Man if any of this is true, i hope people wake the hell up. Read before you buy . I would not doubt if when the PS4 does come out "you will have to agree to some anti hacking agreement => ( "You do not own the console" = Blah ,Blah Blah) ! Sony is beginning to be the (console killer) of the gaming industry & i hope other console makers will not be dumb enough to follow a corp as stupid as Sony !
If sony is going to tie retail games now to 1 person/console ,etc/no used games. If you get bored with your game or just don't like it & want to sell the game or return = You cant after trying it ? => (You are getting robbed BLIND). If all this is in any way true. I hope there move will destroy the PlayStation all together & sony & the people who come up with this nonsense "BURN IN HELL". They are so obsessed on controlling us ,that gaming is not even going to be fun no more. Gaming is starting to sound like politics & if this is the route gaming is going (OBSESSED/CONTROL) ?
I will keep my (x3) CFW PS3s , (x1) OFW & say hello to any game console but sonys ! I am happy to see XboX is moving to better things. For people that luv PS3 controller like myself ,or find XboX controller hard to get used to.? You can use a PS3 controller on XboX with a conversion cable
03-28-2012
04:53 PM
03-28-2012
04:55 PM
the only one who travels multiverses who liked this news [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]
And wants real life Fallout V.A.T.S it's me.
03-28-2012
04:56 PM
great news! im excited.
-ogbrandon
03-28-2012
06:53 PM
I honestly think the Playstation 3 has at least 4 or 5 more years... But what do I know lol. Thanks for the post, very informative.
03-28-2012
06:58 PM
03-28-2012
08:15 PM
Nah. I think it is a rumor and it wont be true.
03-28-2012
08:47 PM
We are locked out from these machines from the time we purchase them...
I am sick of the restrictions!
03-28-2012
10:13 PM
read something about this on Gameinformer, Orbis..... why so latin sony?
03-28-2012
11:09 PM
Couple of things:
Sony have done quite a lot this generation to "cheese" me off. So if they want me to buy their next console, they damn well better make it a good one.
Sounds of it so far, while very little detail, doesn't seem to be worth the upgrade from ps3 yet.
No backwards compatibility, yeah okay, I can clearly see why. They are changing the CPU architecture from PPC to x86, so running a PPC game on x86 would require some emulation, namely, of all the PS3's hardware, it is extremely unlikely that they would be able to do that without it being extremely slow with todays technology. So the no BC is understandable.
No second hand games? Talk about "We want to control you" attitude. That is a dealbreaker for me.
I think I may just stick to my PS3...
03-29-2012
02:22 AM
get ready for all the april fools jokes people
03-29-2012
03:42 AM
You both could be right, but then rumours that came out a couple of years before the device was announced, have come true before.
Look at this information, from 6th of June 2009, regarding the PS Vita:
It wasn't until nearly two years later, on the 27th of January 2011, that some of those above rumours came true.....
03-29-2012
06:05 AM
Sony is chasing after Apple with the Restrictions..
they are doing everything possible to f**k the user.
there are other good consoles out and also PC
no need to go blindly after Sony and their Bulls**t
if the news report lowest sells ever of PS4 i will be so happy ..
03-29-2012
08:00 AM
I want a console from Google on Android :3 So it will be ultra open for everyone
03-29-2012
08:11 AM
Found this curious:
Sony is working on a new PlayStation machine. According to the story Kotaku broke, it's called Orbis. That could be a codename—it also might be the console's final name.
There are some reasons why Sony might not choose to call its machine the PlayStation 4. In Japan, four (四) can be read as "yon" (よん) or "shi" (し). The kanji for death is "shi" (死), which is why the number four is considered unlucky. While its origins are very different, it's akin to the number 13 in the West.
That's why when you give people presents in Japan, you would not give them four of something. If possible, you'd give them, for example, three cakes—or five—instead of four. Some buildings in Japan don't have fourth floors—especially hospitals, which never keep patients on the fourth floor. It's also why you don't see a lot of products with the number four in it.
What you do see is a bunch of video game titles with "four" in it. Mario Party 4, Ace Attorney 4, Yakuza 4—Japanese game companies don't skip over the four iteration out of superstition.
And when the four iteration pops up, the games are not usually called, for example, Mario Party Shi. Rather, Mario Party 4 is called "Mario Party Four" (マリオパーティフォー) in Japanese. So even something like Ace Attorney 4, which has a Japanese title full of kanji (逆転裁判４), becomes "Gyakuten Saiban Four".
"Four" (フォー) is an easy way for Japanese people to separate "4" from its Japanese counterpart—and the superstitious it contains.
In Japan, the PlayStation 2 is called the "PlayStation Two" or the "PS Two" and not the "PS Ni", with "ni" (二) being "two" in Japanese. Likewise, the PlayStation 3 is called the "PlayStation Three" or the "PS Three" in Japanese and not the "PS San"; "san" (三) is "three" in Japanese.
The PlayStation brand is very strong, and its something Sony won't ditch no matter what the Tokyo-based electronics giant calls its next game machine. If Sony does dub its next PlayStation console the PlayStation 4, people will call it the "PlayStation Four" in Japanese. However, that doesn't mean Japanese people won't make death puns if the console flounders. They will.
Source
03-29-2012
09:07 AM
Ah ****, I pressed the back button by accident right before I wanted to say something.
I hope they release a deluxe launch model with onboard EE+GS+Cell+RSX so that I can play my entire library of PS1/2/3 games. Then they can start removing important features like usual until they get a piece of poop slim. "It does nothing errr everything!"
03-29-2012
09:23 AM
i hope it doesn't come out until 2020, we don't need it yet
either way i'm upset if they're ditching cell, but who knows
03-29-2012
09:32 AM
03-29-2012
09:59 AM
i hope next generation, the games come on drm dongles so it'll be a headache for people to hack. i was just fine buying legit games and playing them on PSN.
i really didn't care about pirating ps3 games, i just wanted homebrew to run on the console
03-29-2012
10:07 AM
i wonder when the ps4 gets hacked, will it be able run windows 7 etc , to me its about homebrew too
03-29-2012
10:25 AM
04-03-2012
03:12 PM
Interesting handsaw design posted there LOL
PS. Second hand games sell for 10-15usd, so the second hand dealers will need to sell their games for $0 !!! interesting profitability there.
04-03-2012
05:14 PM
04-03-2012
05:20 PM
Circle of life Interesting concept Love it. As for locking games sucks but HAHAHA gamestop looks like your life span might be cut short rofl Loving it
04-03-2012
06:12 PM