19 Comments

1. 

   jr3277
   04-24-2012
   09:12 AM

   1

   Great job Gregory this will help let the people know that there are still some with the knowledge and skill working on things.
   But Damn now I have to take back a previous statement lol O well THANKS

2. 

   TizzyT
   04-24-2012
   09:41 AM

   2

   This is great news. Now I can catch up on my "PS3 Stuff" folder lol.

3. 

   stuck?
   04-24-2012
   09:43 AM

   3

   Little bit of silver lining to those never ending thunder storms

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   GregoryRasputin
   04-24-2012
   10:19 AM

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   Originally Posted by jr3277 Great job Gregory this will help let the people know that there are still some with the knowledge and skill working on things. But Damn now I have to take back a previous statement lol O well THANKS

   [MENTION=148739]defyboy[/MENTION] is the one that deserves all the thanks, he has been running the PS3 Dev Wiki for over a year and now this and never once has he asked anyone for money, that is how the PS3 scene should be, [MENTION=148739]defyboy[/MENTION] is a gentleman of the scene and someone we all should be proud off

5. 

   najtrows
   04-24-2012
   10:40 AM

   5

   ****ing Amazing! Loving this! AWESOME!

6. 

   Pockets69
   04-24-2012
   10:53 AM

   6

   yup the thing is there is all those git repos around, but they constantly get raided by sony or interested parties... well maybe here they will leave us alone
   thanks [MENTION=148739]defyboy[/MENTION] [MENTION=131344]euss[/MENTION] [MENTION=7773]GregoryRasputin[/MENTION] and everyone that has contributed to the dev wiki.

7. 

   OoZic
   04-24-2012
   10:58 AM

   7

   We Only Git Everything

8. 

   mcmrc1
   04-24-2012
   11:02 AM

   8

   I wish all devs happy deving

9. 

   pepethedon
   04-24-2012
   11:09 AM

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   This is cool, I guess to avoid any drama and just get down to business (as in ideas brewing, not to profit obv lol)
   
   I've got a 4.11 on me right now, if anyone needs testing on OFW.

10. 

    SuperDre
    04-24-2012
    02:06 PM

    10

    Originally Posted by Pockets69 yup the thing is there is all those git repos around, but they constantly get raided by sony or interested parties... well maybe here they will leave us alone thanks [MENTION=148739]defyboy[/MENTION] [MENTION=131344]euss[/MENTION] [MENTION=7773]GregoryRasputin[/MENTION] and everyone that has contributed to the dev wiki.

    Nice and all, but now there is more and more fragmentation, which repositories contain the latest 'official' versions of the PSL1GHT, PS3TOOLCHAIN etc?
    at the moment I'm using https://github.com/ps3dev/ps3toolchain (which seems to be the 'original/official' PSL1GHT/PS3TOOLCHAIN) but I already seen a lot of different other forks which all are named the same (ShowTime for instance is using it's own fork: https://github.com/andoma/ps3toolchain)..
    And I really have no idea which one is best to use (Or my understanding of GIT is fubar).
    So yet another repository doesn't seem to be a good plan to me..

11. 

    Pockets69
    04-24-2012
    04:20 PM

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    Fragmentation has always been an issue, still people can post the sources for pl1ght and their projects on devwiki, devs will eventually migrate

12. 

    hanzoverfist
    04-24-2012
    06:10 PM

    12

    funny .. the logo looks like a dog house!!

13. 

    defyboy
    04-24-2012
    11:40 PM

    13

    Originally Posted by SuperDre Nice and all, but now there is more and more fragmentation, which repositories contain the latest 'official' versions of the PSL1GHT, PS3TOOLCHAIN etc? at the moment I'm using https://github.com/ps3dev/ps3toolchain (which seems to be the 'original/official' PSL1GHT/PS3TOOLCHAIN) but I already seen a lot of different other forks which all are named the same (ShowTime for instance is using it's own fork: https://github.com/andoma/ps3toolchain).. And I really have no idea which one is best to use (Or my understanding of GIT is fubar). So yet another repository doesn't seem to be a good plan to me..

    Yeah unfortunately fragmentation is an issue, but this is inherent of the entire git ecosystem.
    
    I started this git up specifically for console only projects, to replace the now defunct git-hacks. I am building scripts to ensure certain repos (psl1ght, toolchain, libs etc) are always up-to-date to help combat those issues.

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    euss
    04-25-2012
    03:23 AM

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    Originally Posted by SuperDre Nice and all, but now there is more and more fragmentation, which repositories contain the latest 'official' versions of the PSL1GHT, PS3TOOLCHAIN etc? at the moment I'm using https://github.com/ps3dev/ps3toolchain (which seems to be the 'original/official' PSL1GHT/PS3TOOLCHAIN) but I already seen a lot of different other forks which all are named the same (ShowTime for instance is using it's own fork: https://github.com/andoma/ps3toolchain).. And I really have no idea which one is best to use (Or my understanding of GIT is fubar). So yet another repository doesn't seem to be a good plan to me..

    Fragmentation of psl1ght is caused by migration from v1 to v2 and the many wrongs that happend in that. Alot is not working, buggy, slow as hell, only working in specific situations - hence why developers chose to fork and implement their own solutions, without getting broken by mainfork every so often.
    
    Git/gitorious makes codemanagement so much easier: you export from one system, insert into another and get a direct list off all differences and get to choose which ones to keep. Now try that with oldskool .RAR exchange (lol @ hermes)

15. 

    pete_uk
    04-25-2012
    03:54 AM

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    Thanks for all your time and effort euss and defyboy

16. 

    CrashSerious
    04-25-2012
    09:41 AM

    16

    Originally Posted by SuperDre Nice and all, but now there is more and more fragmentation, which repositories contain the latest 'official' versions of the PSL1GHT, PS3TOOLCHAIN etc? at the moment I'm using https://github.com/ps3dev/ps3toolchain (which seems to be the 'original/official' PSL1GHT/PS3TOOLCHAIN) but I already seen a lot of different other forks which all are named the same (ShowTime for instance is using it's own fork: https://github.com/andoma/ps3toolchain).. And I really have no idea which one is best to use (Or my understanding of GIT is fubar). So yet another repository doesn't seem to be a good plan to me..

    As euss said, the fragmentation is in any git ecosystem. It's actually how it is supposed to work.
    
    andoma's showtime is a result of the v1 to v2 split in pslight. Since he uses v1 and v1 is (I think) abandoned by the SDK maintainers he's likely had to create his own branch to fix issues. In an ideal git eco-system those would be pushed back up to the main repo. I have not looked, but you should probably see that the andoma pslight is a fork of the v1. (HACKERCHANNEL I believe.)

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    SuperDre
    04-25-2012
    02:31 PM

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    Originally Posted by CrashSerious As euss said, the fragmentation is in any git ecosystem. It's actually how it is supposed to work. andoma's showtime is a result of the v1 to v2 split in pslight. Since he uses v1 and v1 is (I think) abandoned by the SDK maintainers he's likely had to create his own branch to fix issues. In an ideal git eco-system those would be pushed back up to the main repo. I have not looked, but you should probably see that the andoma pslight is a fork of the v1. (HACKERCHANNEL I believe.)

    Yeah I know, but for me, this means there is no real PSL1GHT anymore, and 'we' should get back to maintaining ONE version of PSL1GHT, and use better branching (like when they switched to 'V2', the should have just made a branch 'V1' before making the master a 'V2'..
    
    Now we have a lot of different forks with a lot of different changes, and no 'master' version which has all the changes. Nobody now knows exactly what another developer has changed so they might not even 'profit' from those fixes because he/she's using it's own fork which misses a lot of stuff..
    
    I want to help fix/add stuff to PSL1GHT when needed, but with no real 'master' anymore, there is no sense in even trying... the 'official' V2 version hasn't been updated for months, but when I look at other fork's they seem to have a lof of fixes..
    
    k another problem is the lack of 'version' history (of major points) on the V2 'readme.txt', the text is still the same as what is known as V1..
    
    So if V2 is so bad, why not try to fix the problems.. ahwell I'm rambling again, as I get annoyed by these kind of things as I cannot easily choose what to use.. currently I'm starting with the 'official' V2, but I'm already stumped a bit on the comments of it being very slow, which doesn't really excite me to get started on homebrew (even though I really want to)..
    
    Also I'd like to help out a bit on http://psl1ght.net/wiki (by updating examples etc) but for some reason I don't seem to receive the email confirmation code (even though the hotmail account is entered correctly, and No, it didn't get delivered to the junkmail folder) so I cannot change my email preferences in regard to changes.
    
    or will http://gitorious.ps3dev.net/ be the 'master' for all the PSL1GHT/PS3TOOLCHAIN/ETC now?

18. 

    defyboy
    04-25-2012
    02:52 PM

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    https://github.com/ps3dev is generally regarded as the master at this time

19. 

    CrashSerious
    04-26-2012
    12:02 AM

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    Originally Posted by defyboy https://github.com/ps3dev is generally regarded as the master at this time

    +1 to that.
    
    

    Originally Posted by SuperDre Yeah I know, but for me, this means there is no real PSL1GHT anymore, and 'we' should get back to maintaining ONE version of PSL1GHT, and use better branching (like when they switched to 'V2', the should have just made a branch 'V1' before making the master a 'V2'.. Now we have a lot of different forks with a lot of different changes, and no 'master' version which has all the changes. Nobody now knows exactly what another developer has changed so they might not even 'profit' from those fixes because he/she's using it's own fork which misses a lot of stuff.. I want to help fix/add stuff to PSL1GHT when needed, but with no real 'master' anymore, there is no sense in even trying... the 'official' V2 version hasn't been updated for months, but when I look at other fork's they seem to have a lof of fixes.. k another problem is the lack of 'version' history (of major points) on the V2 'readme.txt', the text is still the same as what is known as V1.. So if V2 is so bad, why not try to fix the problems.. ahwell I'm rambling again, as I get annoyed by these kind of things as I cannot easily choose what to use.. currently I'm starting with the 'official' V2, but I'm already stumped a bit on the comments of it being very slow, which doesn't really excite me to get started on homebrew (even though I really want to).. Also I'd like to help out a bit on http://psl1ght.net/wiki (by updating examples etc) but for some reason I don't seem to receive the email confirmation code (even though the hotmail account is entered correctly, and No, it didn't get delivered to the junkmail folder) so I cannot change my email preferences in regard to changes. or will http://gitorious.ps3dev.net/ be the 'master' for all the PSL1GHT/PS3TOOLCHAIN/ETC now?

    If they are copies, and not forks--- that is not how you use git and I wouldn't consider using it. If they are forks with changes, that's perfectly fine. If they aren't submitting thier changes upstream there may be something going on; changes rejected, they aren't doing pullrequests and the main repo doesn't know about them, or they just don't know how to use git.
    
    Should it have been a branch in the original PSL1GHT? Yeah, maybe. But you have to realize a whole complete different group of people came along and did that-- which actually is what you are complaining about. ;-) But as much as I hate to admit it because the changes were DRASTIC they were likely for the better in the long run.
    
    As far as the account code, I don't know--- but you might try something other than hotmail if you aren't getting emails. I've seen places that simply don't allow it, reject it, or hotmail dumps the e-mails sent by the site.