OoZic
04-27-2012
03:46 AM

1

This in combination with the CFW 3.55 homebrew will make an awesome PS3

carldenning
04-27-2012
03:50 AM

2

if this turns out true then sweet, then i thought what about homebrew for people that use this eg 4.11 . maybe the sdk would be able to make homebrew in to disc format instead of psn game format . but then again they still wont boot cos of keys unless keys wont matter from the emulation but i doubt it . just have to wait and see what unfolds

HipHopStyler
04-27-2012
03:57 AM

3

If no hacking,no modding,no flashing then we are able to play online too with our backups!?

landon
04-27-2012
03:57 AM

4

Hope this is true, it's our only solution face to the impossibility to dream of "CFW 3.6+" !!!
Thanks for this good news
************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

Originally Posted by HipHopStyler

If no hacking,no modding,no flashing then we are able to play online too with our backups!?

If this is true & not another fake, & if it will work on the last OFW from SONY, why not ??!!

cyberdude
04-27-2012
04:01 AM

5

oooooooo VERY interesting,i will keep tabs on this.

carldenning
04-27-2012
04:01 AM

6

Originally Posted by HipHopStyler

If no hacking,no modding,no flashing then we are able to play online too with our backups!?

for a whole week or so depend on how long on sony sorts it as say it can easy be removes from a update , the sooner they sort it the better cos i dont want backup online . at least people who cant downgrade can use this but then there will be a time they have to choose keep it or update . and i recon there will people that update then moan cos they cant go back just like last time

Cheesethief
04-27-2012
04:04 AM

7

This is not the answer at all. If it is like the 360 wasabi then the only thing it will be good for is piracy.

oPolo
04-27-2012
04:12 AM

8

A question is, how would PSN stuff installed on a CFW work out this way?

If both PSN(PKG's) and BR games can be played, then ka-ching, have my babies.

If it can only play BR games... well, I keep my PS3 on 3.55 for a bit more than games.. :/

DEFAULTDNB
04-27-2012
04:55 AM

9

If this is a case of update to 4.11 install this load un-touched backups then only BD games would work as its emulating and bypassing the drive, no chance hacked PSN packages would work because there is still no key set being deployed.

LoverboySimer
04-27-2012
04:59 AM

10

this will turn ps3 scene straight like the xbox scene

oPolo
04-27-2012
05:03 AM

11

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB

If this is a case of update to 4.11 install this load un-touched backups then only BD games would work as its emulating and bypassing the drive, no chance hacked PSN packages would work because there is still no key set being deployed.

What I thought too, however, perhaps PKG's can somehow be converted... although there is the key issue. Anyway, this would be a majortastic step in a good direction.

Btw, LOVE your Majora's Mask avatar <333333333333333333333333333333333333333

DEFAULTDNB
04-27-2012
05:09 AM

12

[MENTION=171728]oPolo[/MENTION]I actually have that skullkid model on my shelf upstairs (my prized posession!)

I'm obsessed with skullkid, he's awesome!

https://www.first4figures.com/compon...,3/product,46/

NF7
04-27-2012
05:34 AM

13

I dont think that CFW would be needed anymore. Everything would be done throught emulation, so future OFW wouldn't be able to detect if the game is on HDD on BD So yes. Online + Piracy ...

cookie42
04-27-2012
05:45 AM

14

While it would be cool to have the bd fw cracked, this could only be used for piracy, kinda boring...

DEFAULTDNB
04-27-2012
05:46 AM

15

Agreed, emulation is the future.

I've always wondered why JaiCraB never updated his Firmloader/nFlash tools to have somesort of darkalex style time machine for PS3 OFW/CFW emulation and testing.

Although recently I saw his source code leaked for it, and cobra payload v2 (i think) and something else called something like USB as bluray... ill find the link and tidy this post up as I can't remember most of it.....

EDIT:

Today anonymous leaks some code from Demonhades some which could be useful for other developers which are dump the entire ram to which USB is chosen, Use USB drive as Blu-ray drive and Cobra USB payload v2.

USB Firm Loader v3:

/****************************************************************/
/* JaiCraB 30/11/2010 */
/* USB Firm Loader v3 */
/* File: main.c */
/* Private use to demonhades.org */
/****************************************************************/

int main( void )
{
uint64_t dev_flash = 0x5F666C6173680000;
uint64_t dev_flashO = 0x5F666C6173684F00;
uint64_t dev_hdd0 = 0x5F68646430000000;
uint64_t dev_hdd1 = 0x5F68646431000000;
uint64_t dev_hdd2 = 0x5F68646432000000;
uint64_t dev_usb000 = 0x5F75736230303000;
uint64_t dev_usb001 = 0x5F75736230303100;
uint64_t dev_usb002 = 0x5F75736230303200;
uint64_t dev_usb003 = 0x5F75736230303300;

uint64_t Start= 0x80000000003EE470; //MTAB // 0x80000000003EE870
uint64_t Stop= 0x80000000003EF570; //end
uint64_t Current;
uint64_t Data;

char debugt[100];

for (Current=Start;Current<Stop;Current=Current+0x100)
{
Data = syscall_peek(Current);
//Flash -> FlashO
//HDD -> Flash
//USB -> HDD
if (Data==dev_flash){
// sprintf(debugt,"Found in %016llX -> _flashn",Current);
// DebugTest(debugt);
syscall_pook(Current,dev_flashO);
// sprintf(debugt,"Parchet in %016llX -> _flashOn",Current);
// DebugTest(debugt);
//VolcarLv2("/dev_usb000/dumpf.bin");
}
if (Data==dev_hdd0){
// sprintf(debugt,"Found in %016llX -> _hdd0n",Current);
// DebugTest(debugt);
// syscall_pook(Current,dev_flashO);
// sprintf(debugt,"Parchet in %016llX -> _flashn",Current);
// DebugTest(debugt);

//VolcarLv2("/dev_usb000/dumph.bin");
}

if ((Data==dev_usb000)||(Data==dev_usb001)||(Data==dev_usb002)||(Data==dev_usb003)){
// sprintf(debugt,"Found in %016llX -> _usb000n",Current);
// DebugTest(debugt);
syscall_pook(Current,dev_flash);
// sprintf(debugt,"Parchet in %016llX -> dev_hdd0n",Current);
// DebugTest(debugt);
//VolcarLv2("/dev_hdd0/dumpx.bin");
Current=Stop;
}
if (Data==dev_hdd1){
// sprintf(debugt,"Found in %016llX -> _usb000n",Current);
// DebugTest(debugt);
// syscall_pook(Current,dev_hdd2);
// sprintf(debugt,"Parchet in %016llX -> dev_hdd0n",Current);
// DebugTest(debugt);
//VolcarLv2("/dev_hdd0/dumpx.bin");
}
}

return 0;
}

ynotrhyme
04-27-2012
05:58 AM

16

Oh please lord be true!!!!!

DEFAULTDNB
04-27-2012
06:04 AM

17

Surely if JaiCrab's USB as a BLURAY drive is true, this device could very quickly become redundant?

/****************************************************************/
/* JaiCraB 17/07/2011 */
/* Plugin TheGrid: */
/* Using USB DRIVE as Blu-Ray Drive */
/* File: mount.h */
/* Private use to demonhades.org */
/****************************************************************/

#define usb000 0x5F75736230303000ULL
#define bdvd 0x5F62647664000000ULL
#define bdvd2 0x5F62647664320000ULL

uint64_t ChangeMountUnit(uint64_t Origen, uint64_t Destino1, uint64_t Destino2);

/****************************************************************/
/* JaiCraB 17/07/2011 */
/* Plugin TheGrid: */
/* Using USB DRIVE as Blu-Ray Drive */
/* File: main.cpp */
/* Private use to demonhades.org */
/****************************************************************/

#include "defines.h"
#include "gccpch.h"
#include "ps3Utils.h"
#include "ps3FileSystemUtils.h"
#include "mount.h"

int main(void)
{
uint64_t result;
int ret;
int ret2;
int fd;

WriteLog(0,"/dev_usb000","TheGrid Plugin NoBD: Running main base!n");
sys_timer_sleep(20);
WriteLog(0,NULL,"TheGrid Plugin NoBD: Find USB with flag!n");
while (1)
{
sys_timer_sleep(1);
ret = lv2FsOpen("/dev_usb000/GAME_USB", CELL_FS_O_RDONLY, &fd, 0, NULL, 0);
lv2FsClose(fd);
ret2 = lv2FsOpen("/dev_bdvd/PS3_DISC.SFB", CELL_FS_O_RDONLY, &fd, 0, NULL, 0);
lv2FsClose(fd);
if ((!ret) && (!ret2))
{
WriteLog(0,NULL,"TheGrid Plugin NoBD: Detected USB with flag!n");
WriteLog(0,NULL,"TheGrid Plugin NoBD: Detected BD GAME!n");
WriteLog(0,NULL,"TheGrid Plugin NoBD: Changing mount from bdvd to bdvd2...%dn",ChangeMountUnit(bdvd,bdvd2,0));
WriteLog(0,NULL,"TheGrid Plugin NoBD: Changing mount from usb000 to bdvd...%dn",ChangeMountUnit(usb000,bdvd,0));
return 0;
}

}

WriteLog(1,NULL, "TheGrid Plugin NoBD: Byez!");
return 0;
}

/****************************************************************/
/* JaiCraB 17/07/2011 */
/* Plugin TheGrid: */
/* Using USB DRIVE as Blu-Ray Drive */
/* File: mount.cpp */
/* Private use to demonhades.org */
/****************************************************************/

uint64_t ChangeMountUnit(uint64_t Origen, uint64_t Destino1, uint64_t Destino2)
{
uint64_t Start= 0x80000000003EE470ULL; //MTAB // 0x80000000003EE870
uint64_t Stop= 0x80000000003EF570ULL; //end
uint64_t Current;
uint64_t Data;
int status=-1;

for (Current=Start;Current<Stop;Current=Current+0x100)
{
Data = lv2Peek(Current);
if (Data==Origen){
lv2Poke(Current, Destino1);
lv2Poke(Current+0x8, Destino2);
status = 0;
}

}
return status ;
}

tech3475
04-27-2012
06:08 AM

18

Two things come to mind:
1. Don't Sony update the drive firmware? So this may be more easily prevented in the future unless the hackers are determined like c4eva on the Xbox.
2. For those of us who care about home brew, the only problem is that you still need a dual NAND/hdd.

That's if it's true of course.

whatpower
04-27-2012
06:08 AM

19

Cool, I suppose. But at this point I'm just so numb and insensitive to any type of news. When something actually becomes a reality then it'll grab my attention, until then, this means nothing to me. Too many times has hope been crushed.

LoverboySimer
04-27-2012
06:12 AM

20

it will not be free and from the looks it will cost 150$ to 200$ or may be even more
n must be some sort of emulation through linux

DEFAULTDNB
04-27-2012
06:16 AM

21

Originally Posted by tech3475

Two things come to mind:
1. Don't Sony update the drive firmware? So this may be more easily prevented in the future unless the hackers are determined like c4eva on the Xbox.
2. For those of us who care about home brew, the only problem is that you still need a dual NAND/hdd.

That's if it's true of course.

I've been reading around and can't find anything to suggest it updates/flashes firmware on the BD drive... That being said I remember reading about certain old firmware updates crippling bluray drives, but its nothing that couldn't just be software->drive interface based rather than BD flash flailed or anything like that....

In summary I highly doubt you can flash the bd drive firmware from the hardware included in the PS3.

Originally Posted by LoverboySimer

it will not be free and from the looks it will cost 150$ to 200$ or may be even more
n must be some sort of emulation through linux

Linux on 4.11? or you mean the interface of the device runs on linux... that makes more sense.. like the coverflow format on the xbox optical drive emulators.

Cypherous
04-27-2012
06:20 AM

22

Question is how much soldering will this require if any, are we talking a straight SATA cable from the BD port on the motherboard to the external SATA port there, this will be nice if it emulates the BD drive but does this not then mean you actually need 2 HDD's as you need one to emulate the BD and one to work as a standard drive meaning you'll end up with a very messy console, how exactly is it swapping images for games does it have some externally controlled interface for selecting games or is it a case of popping the drive in to your PC to rename folders and swap images over in which case it will be annoying as hell, we need more info :P

anan_desni
04-27-2012
06:26 AM

23

What if the BD emulator need specific firmware and some dildo to make it work? I'll be ****ed =_='

DEFAULTDNB
04-27-2012
06:28 AM

24

If this turns out to be trueblue's new product I will go ape-sh!t.

synce
04-27-2012
06:38 AM

25

With publishers abusing DLC more than ever this would be a perfect solution. Get the 'base' game for free and buy the $60 worth of cut/locked content. It'll be just like 8 years ago when that amount of money got you a complete game!

furtsiv
04-27-2012
06:46 AM

26

__and then maybe we hear about reset glitch on ps3!!

--i wonder if c4va is working on a new xbox360firmware or he have the time too crack

ps3 blueray drive

__i think we have no chance for PSN because same as xbox they cant(when using xkey)

LoverboySimer
04-27-2012
06:54 AM

27

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB

Linux on 4.11? or you mean the interface of the device runs on linux... that makes more sense.. like the coverflow format on the xbox optical drive emulators.

i meant interface.
who needs this if linux, almost means homebrew can run on 4.11

mcmrc1
04-27-2012
06:57 AM

28

can it be ? is this true ? questions over questions

carldenning
04-27-2012
07:02 AM

29

Originally Posted by LoverboySimer

it will not be free and from the looks it will cost 150$ to 200$ or may be even more
n must be some sort of emulation through linux

if its threw linux then tell me,how you can install linux on 4.11 ofw? cos u cant lol

stussy1
04-27-2012
07:02 AM

30

Now this is what im talking about wasabi for ps3 loving on the
xbox360 hope its true

Thank U for this awsome news

Dragoon512
04-27-2012
07:06 AM

31

Great, just great. As long as you do care only about piracy. Such drives won't run homebrew until we get the keys, so CFW will still be required. Also, without CFW this will require soldering some cables in your PS3.

TizzyT
04-27-2012
07:11 AM

32

Hmmm wonder how long I've been waiting on such a concept to bare fruit, or potentially bare fruit lol, is this verified/confirmed?

psg
04-27-2012
07:12 AM

33

Originally Posted by synce

With publishers abusing DLC more than ever this would be a perfect solution. Get the 'base' game for free and buy the $60 worth of cut/locked content. It'll be just like 8 years ago when that amount of money got you a complete game!

Yeah, be a smart customer! Show them that their evil ways of DLC are wrong by buying more DLC! That'll teach th--- Wait..

landon
04-27-2012
07:14 AM

34

On the xbox 360, soldering is not required cause they use SATA connexion, so most likely if this is true, we could use-it withou soldering too...
Hope this will be true, the scene is tired waiting to 3.6+ CFW that may never never coming !!!
************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

Originally Posted by TizzyT

Hmmm wonder how long I've been waiting on such a concept to bare fruit, or potentially bare fruit lol, is this verified/confirmed?

No it's not confirmed, it's a chinese rumor comin from a chinese source talikng about a team that cracked the BluRay PCB & is working on an ODDE like for the PS3 !

It may be truth or an other fake, let's wait & see

Simonbuck
04-27-2012
07:19 AM

35

Reportedly they have been in contact with ChinaDistrib.com who stated a team (possibly the Wasabi or Drivekey team) is working on the PS3 Blu-ray drive emulation PCB that is slated for release later this year. No hacking, no flashing, no modding

They have also speculated via e-mail that the project has been kept under tight wraps due to Sony being unable to stop this new PS3 hack via Firmware updates, meaning once it becomes public Sony's legal team will be on the warpath in full force.

Syge
04-27-2012
07:26 AM

36

No hacking , no flashing , no modding.

Emulation is the future. At this time a team is working on a new hack for PS3.

The blueray player's PCB from Sony has recently been hacked and thus can be cloned. The team (probably Wasabi or a team of Wiikey) is working on this to connect an external HDD to the board. Doing this makes it able for downloaded games to be played like Wasabi360 and Xkey for Xbox360.

A big retailer in China has announced this will probably be released somewhere this year.

A 'better' translation from native dutch (there were some dutch typo's so translator coudn't find right translations)

cookie42
04-27-2012
08:03 AM

37

Originally Posted by carldenning

if its threw linux then tell me,how you can install linux on 4.11 ofw? cos u cant lol

Assuming it's real, it would be a separate piece of hardware, like the WODE, or xk3y for example that what would be running linux, not the ps3.

ChaseHammer
04-27-2012
08:03 AM

38

I dont care about playing online. What I care about is being able to play new games on an open system. If we can even get to 4.11 the number of games this allows is HUGE.

mcmrc1
04-27-2012
08:06 AM

39

good bye True Blue

DEFAULTDNB
04-27-2012
08:09 AM

40

Originally Posted by mcmrc1

good bye True Blue

Careful not to speak too soon. If it turns out this is TB's new device... shhheeeesh I don't even wanna imagine the forum carnage.

I do hope its from a reputable group like wiikey/xkey/wode etc

WalangAlam
04-27-2012
08:24 AM

41

I could also arrange my ps3 and hdd like that and take a picture...

jrtux
04-27-2012
08:26 AM

42

In the picture they are using an ide hd with a simple PC sata adapter.
This is bizarre ...

Pockets69
04-27-2012
08:34 AM

43

well my take on this... is meh, well people will be able to finally play all the games they want without waiting for a group of corrupts to upload their eboots, or rather not uploading their eboots, while they wait for people to buy their games on disk for a dollar or two, or seeing threats from tb developers to other dongles users that decided to go for another product, also cool a device that you will be installing in your ps3, that won't bring malware its good for a change, this is the good part.

The bad part is actually this, this won't bring anything else than piracy, it won't even help us 3.55 users that decided to stay for homebrew to play new games, this will not bring homebrew to a 4.11 machine (or whatever the version it is when its released) this will also be used online and will ruin online play for everyone.

well this is all assuming its true XD

also hope its not some more true blue ****.

synce
04-27-2012
08:55 AM

44

lol jrtux you spoiled all the fun

DEFAULTDNB
04-27-2012
09:14 AM

45

I just noticed:

in the second pic the Sata controller is going into a PHAT ps3 apparently clipping into the area that is the HDD bay.

In the following pic of an old PHATTY you notice the BD drive is the opposite side of the HDD bay.... Now is this a deliberate mistake, or is it to do with the motherboard's position because does the BD drive connects via cables across the internal span of the PS3? I didn't think it did??

It doesn't make sense to me to "go in from the side", and definitely not that side... from the back or direct to the drive itself a more obvious approach.

Could anyone who has open up their PS3's and know the insides like the back of their hands clear this up? I've only opened up one before, and cant remember where everything was exactly...

EDIT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...41kRzwgw#t=83s

this shows the BD drive connects closer to the back of the PS3 PHAT, the power supply is closer to the HDD bay.. hmmmm...

Perhaps when they finalize the design, it will be pushed into the HDD bay? but then where will the internal storage go...?? this raises so many questions!

Simonbuck
04-27-2012
09:23 AM

46

Below are some concept pictures (not actual finished product pictures) from their site and the details, roughly translated as follows:

Taken from a post on another News site (dont think I can post its name here)

Gazra
04-27-2012
09:46 AM

47

well if this is true the sony will be breaking out even more lawyers lol as they will somehow want to stop this because the pirates will have basically won if i am thinking properly.

I mean bypassing the BD reader is one thing all together but to use a HDD instead that loads backups great.Does anyone else think OFW with this installed and pirate online gaming will be happening all over again and i no that it did with CFW 3.55 when it first came out but what could sony possibly do to stop this apart from attempt to fix with updates?

what are your ideas on how you think they will fix this?

I hope that this is not TB trying to be idiots all over again i mean dongles a one thing but to ruin the game play for everyone well that's just not even justified.

I mean sure what there doing now really is not helping any part of the scene apart from there financial side for them.

Here's hoping that this is not true and that the scene is still here for some reason and not let it end up with piracy all over.

Give me CFW with homebrew any day of the week

Ubefuct
04-27-2012
09:48 AM

48

Originally Posted by Pockets69

.....

The bad part is actually this, this won't bring anything else than piracy, it won't even help us 3.55 users that decided to stay for homebrew to play new games, this will not bring homebrew to a 4.11 machine (or whatever the version it is when its released) this will also be used online and will ruin online play for everyone.

well this is all assuming its true XD

also hope its not some more true blue ****.

I don't think it will ruin online play as you would be using this on a ofw machine, and there for have no home brew cheat enabler. Although it will allow piracy, it is a nice feature to not have to rely on disc's for games. Don't get me wrong, I want some form of physical media. Digital copy only is asking for trouble (didn't get a PSP go for that reason) who are they to say what machine I play my purchased games on.

djluiluv
04-27-2012
09:56 AM

49

and everyone said the ps3 scene was dead....this is what I'm talking about...

FreakAlchemist
04-27-2012
10:00 AM

50

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB

I just noticed:

in the second pic the Sata controller is going into a PHAT ps3 apparently clipping into the area that is the HDD bay.

Does no one else notice that thing in usb port #2 looks awfully similar too a dongle.

Ubefuct
04-27-2012
10:01 AM

51

Originally Posted by djluiluv

and everyone said the ps3 scene was dead....this is what I'm talking about...

Not really, more like on life support in a coma...... did a finger just move?

DEFAULTDNB
04-27-2012
10:11 AM

52

Originally Posted by FreakAlchemist

Does no one else notice that thing in usb port #2 looks awfully similar too a dongle.

Hmmmm looks more like a female usb connector?

Perhaps they extended the ports out so they could find it. I always scratch the sh!t out of the plastic near the USB ports when ps3 plugging in USB drives and such.. #DERP

Edit:

On closer inspection I think it could be a dongle, looks a bit like the clear end that lights up depending if its working or not, but still it reminds me of the female usb extender because of the 2 bends in the top line of it (that helps it clip together)

mcmrc1
04-27-2012
10:15 AM

53

this scene is a conspiracy theory

Gazra
04-27-2012
10:15 AM

54

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB

Hmmmm looks more like a female usb connector?

Perhaps they extended the ports out so they could find it. I always scratch the sh!t out of the plastic near the USB ports when ps3 plugging in USB drives and such.. #DERP

Edit:

On closer inspection I think it could be a dongle! looks a bit like the clear end that lights up depending if its working or not.

I just don't know.. also reminds me of the female usb extender because of the 2 bends in the top line of it (that helps it clip together)

well i think that your first guess was correct it is not a dongle just zoom in on the photo and you will see it is a female usb extender lol :D

DEFAULTDNB
04-27-2012
10:18 AM

55

Yeah pretty sure it is a female usb.

fungusfeet
04-27-2012
11:18 AM

56

They're just mock up pictures depicting how it may look, doesn't prove anything one way or another.

OoZic
04-27-2012
11:19 AM

57

Originally Posted by Pockets69

well my take on this... is meh, well people will be able to finally play all the games they want without waiting for a group of corrupts to upload their eboots, or rather not uploading their eboots, while they wait for people to buy their games on disk for a dollar or two, or seeing threats from tb developers to other dongles users that decided to go for another product, also cool a device that you will be installing in your ps3, that won't bring malware its good for a change, this is the good part.

The bad part is actually this, this won't bring anything else than piracy, it won't even help us 3.55 users that decided to stay for homebrew to play new games, this will not bring homebrew to a 4.11 machine (or whatever the version it is when its released) this will also be used online and will ruin online play for everyone.

well this is all assuming its true XD

also hope its not some more true blue ****.

Good part is also the BD drive will have a much longer life... No more need to replace lenses or remarry drives etc so soon

Simonbuck
04-27-2012
12:08 PM

58

Ntfs or fat32 I wonder ??

AlexBaka
04-27-2012
12:25 PM

59

Don't care if it's for piracy only, if dongles will be dead i will do it

etertay
04-27-2012
12:32 PM

60

yeah, as long as it kills true blue (assuming its NOT trueblue)

will you have to use a specific drive for this / hopefully it wont cost a ton of money :/

DEFAULTDNB
04-27-2012
12:32 PM

61

Anything is better than TurdBlue... especially this method (but not for homebrew).. unless this is ScrewBlue's next product.

I freaking hope it hurts them.

Pockets69
04-27-2012
12:34 PM

62

Originally Posted by Ubefuct

I don't think it will ruin online play as you would be using this on a ofw machine, and there for have no home brew cheat enabler. Although it will allow piracy, it is a nice feature to not have to rely on disc's for games. Don't get me wrong, I want some form of physical media. Digital copy only is asking for trouble (didn't get a PSP go for that reason) who are they to say what machine I play my purchased games on.

yes no cheat enabler, but do you really need a cheat enabler to modify the games content LOL just mod the files.

nice point on the longer laser life oozic

svenmullet
04-27-2012
12:49 PM

63

My gut instinct tells me this is the same people who made TB. If you thought $60 was expensive for a warez solution, wait till you see the price on this thing...

Also, I happen to like having CFW running on my machine, you'd still need to update to the latest OFW to run new games, although you could do so without actually buying them. I guess you get PSN if you're so inclined. Meh.

oPolo
04-27-2012
12:50 PM

64

Originally Posted by Simonbuck

Ntfs or fat32 I wonder ??

Couldnt see why NTFS wouldnt work here, so NTFS also I would say

It doesn't interact with the firmware(which is the magic of it) directly.
However, how you select what BR to emulate.. That i do not know.

furtsiv
04-27-2012
12:51 PM

65

i have to say it :this is fake!!
you can notice that the slim ps3 is using a female usb port (that supposed to be coming from the modship) to be used with usb hdd
and the phat ps3 is using sata port to be connected to the modship
now the big question is : it is realy hard to convert usb to sata ?? (of course not!!)
then why they have to make two modships one for slim(using usb hdd)& another for phat(usin sata hdd) ???
because simply its fake looL

Pockets69
04-27-2012
12:53 PM

66

Originally Posted by svenmullet

My gut instinct tells me this is the same people who made TB. If you thought $60 was expensive for a warez solution, wait till you see the price on this thing...

Also, I happen to like having CFW running on my machine, you'd still need to update to the latest OFW to run new games, although you could do so without actually buying them. I guess you get PSN if you're so inclined. Meh.

Let it be wasabi or some other team not those guys again :S

same here for me this is meh, but it least its not TB (at least not that we know of)

SonofUgly
04-27-2012
12:55 PM

67

I wonder how this exactly works...

Are they taking the Blu-Ray drive ribbon and converting it to SATA, then hooking that into their chip, or are they just going from the PS3's SATA to their chip which emulates a PS3 BR drive and runs the HDD.

If it's the later than I wonder if this could work without using any proprietary hardware. Perhaps run an extender from the PS3's SATA to a PC and run the emulator from there?

Also brings up the question of if you can have multiple games on one HDD, I mean you can't run multiple Blu-Ray discs from one Blu-Ray drive without changing the source..
So how would that work, either having only one game on the HDD at a time, or having the emulator mount multiple ISOs and having the PS3 showing multiple 'discs' at the same time.

Simonbuck
04-27-2012
01:09 PM

68

Why do people keep referring to the Photo's saying "Fake"

They are just LIBRARY pictures to give an idea of how it MAY look.

Asure
04-27-2012
01:15 PM

69

Indeed. Some default pics.

Pic #1 is just a USB disk connected to PS3 (and the female USB is probably just for drawing/tapping more amps to the hdd's +5v)
Pic #2 is just a IDE to SATA converter, the disk is an IDE disk. (and some 'external' hdd mod to use a 3.5" hdd instead of 'expensive' 2.5" hdd with the ps3.)

svenmullet
04-27-2012
01:15 PM

70

Also, for the people scrutinizing the pictures: they are mockups, not what the actual product looks like. It will probably be a small board which sits between the BD drive and ribbon connector on the board, with an extension to an external port. This will require an external device to select games on the drive, a la Wasabi. After all is said and done, you're looking at ~$150, not including external drive, plus you'll have a bunch of kit hanging off the PS3 externally. Now, if someone could do this all internal, with an OSD for selecting isos, I'd be interested. I'm all for progressing the PS3 'scene', but this once again is closed-source, expensive, and for profit.

Brenza
04-27-2012
01:19 PM

71

Originally Posted by SonofUgly

I wonder how this exactly works...
Are they taking the Blu-Ray drive ribbon and converting it to SATA, then hooking that into their chip, or are they just going from the PS3's SATA to their chip which emulates a PS3 BR drive and runs the HDD.

If it's the later than I wonder if this could work without using any proprietary hardware. Perhaps run an extender from the PS3's SATA to a PC and run the emulator from there?

Also brings up the question of if you can have multiple games on one HDD, I mean you can't run multiple Blu-Ray discs from one Blu-Ray drive without changing the source..
So how would that work, either having only one game on the HDD at a time, or having the emulator mount multiple ISOs and having the PS3 showing multiple 'discs' at the same time.

The chip is interactive, you'll have to select which iso\folder mount as it's the disc, oviously you can't use more than one backup per time without reload the source

Annelies
04-27-2012
01:23 PM

72

I might get another PS3.

AlexBaka
04-27-2012
01:30 PM

73

i suggest to close this thread and just wait.

getout
04-27-2012
01:41 PM

74

An improved translation of the dutch source:

No hacking, no flashing, no modding.
Emulation is the future. A team is currently working on a new hack for the playstation 3.
The PCB�s of sony bluray players have recently been cracked and cloning is now a possibility. The team, which is possibly behind Wasabi or Wiikey, is currently working on connecting the board to an external harddrive. This way, downloaded games can be played in way similar to wasabi360 and xkey on xbox360.
A big Chinese retailer has indicated that the product will be released later this year.

The dutch source is filled with spelling errors and is cleary a google translate.
Where is the original source?

mrBear
04-27-2012
02:30 PM

75

The Dutch translation from "De blueray speler's PCB van Sony is sindskost gekraakt en kan hierdoor gekloont worden" seemed to be messed up in the translation, more accurate is (I suspect "sinds kost" is "sinds kort", so a typo) :-

"The blueray players PCB from Sony has been cracked recently, and can thus be cloned".

hellsing9
04-27-2012
03:19 PM

76

Well someone opened it again, suit yourself.

It's just a damn rumour, with 0 proof so far. Just 2 images and some info.

FirebirdTA01
04-27-2012
04:30 PM

77

Alright guys, just hold back and wait to see what we hear of this. Worst case is that we never get an update and this rumor dies a rumor. Would think a scene would learn overtime how stuff normally happens. If something happens with this, you all know you will see it on the front page of this site explaining things in more detail. All we have now is a couple of pictures and paragraph of poorly translated text. There are just as few things showing this to be real as there are showing it to be fake so just calm down and let things happen how they always do. If its fake, you'll hear about it, if not, same story.

Pockets69
04-27-2012
05:01 PM

78

^^^THIS

but hey a bit of animated conversation never hurt anyone right but right now this is nothing but a rumor.

japsander
04-27-2012
05:10 PM

79

Originally Posted by svenmullet

Also, for the people scrutinizing the pictures: they are mockups, not what the actual product looks like. It will probably be a small board which sits between the BD drive and ribbon connector on the board, with an extension to an external port. This will require an external device to select games on the drive, a la Wasabi. After all is said and done, you're looking at ~$150, not including external drive, plus you'll have a bunch of kit hanging off the PS3 externally. Now, if someone could do this all internal, with an OSD for selecting isos, I'd be interested. I'm all for progressing the PS3 'scene', but this once again is closed-source, expensive, and for profit.

but if true, this hardware would be necessary and not forced through shady drm tactics. i have no issue with that.
look at the other drive emulators. they are on sale because there simply is no soft way to emulate the hardware. as long as they didnt go the whole (wait for their releases) method i would have no issues at all with it

zauberpilz
04-27-2012
05:27 PM

80

her is the source:

http://www.ombouwnederland.nl/articl...-emulatie-a-25

hellsing9
04-27-2012
05:28 PM

81

Still true or not, it's a *theory* which includes profit of a future product than can enter in a possible market highway.
Doubt that they will *sell it for free*.

zauberpilz
04-27-2012
05:32 PM

82

ok,
then you will develop and produce something like that,
and give it away for free???

hellsing9
04-27-2012
05:39 PM

83

Originally Posted by zauberpilz

ok,
then you will develop and produce something like that,
and give it away for free???

First point = I can produce a rumor and give it away for free.
Second point = The first point it's the one who has more weight.

DrWho198
04-27-2012
05:40 PM

84

Here is a better translation... The original dutch text had many errors. So I made 2 versions... one being a literal translation and one being a more understandable translation.

Literal translation:

No hacking , no flashing , no modding.

Emulation is the future. Right now a team is working on a new hack for the Playstaion3.

Recently the blueray player's PCB has been cracked and hereby can be cloned. The team probably Wasabi or a team of Wiikey is currently working on connecting the board to an external HDD. Because of this downloaded games can be played like the Wasabi360 and Xkey for the Xbox360.

A big retailer in China also indicated that it will be released before the end of the year.

Free translation:

No hacking , no flashing , no modding.

Emulation is the future. Right now a team is working on a new hack for the Playstaion3.

Recently the blueray player's PCB has been cracked and hereby can be cloned. The team (probably Wasabi or a team of Wiikey) is currently working on connecting the board to an external HDD. This will allow the playing of downloaded games like the Wasabi360 and Xkey do for the Xbox360.

A big retailer in China also indicated that the product will be released before the end of the year.

hellsing9
04-27-2012
05:43 PM

85

No hacking , no flashing , no modding

Funny thing, you have to do nothing.

pereb27
04-27-2012
05:43 PM

86

Actually this, if true, could allow homebrew on 4.11.
We can't run homebrew because we can't sign retail HDD EBOOTs, but we can sign retail disc EBOOTs (as far as I know). So we can probably load them that way.

Either way let's see what happens. I'm not keeping my hopes up though.

Pockets69
04-27-2012
05:52 PM

87

Originally Posted by pereb27

Actually this, if true, could allow homebrew on 4.11.
We can't run homebrew because we can't sign retail HDD EBOOTs, but we can sign retail disc EBOOTs (as far as I know). So we can probably load them that way.

Either way let's see what happens. I'm not keeping my hopes up though.

No we can't... and what would be the difference of a retail disc eboot and hdd eboot sir?

pereb27
04-27-2012
05:54 PM

88

Originally Posted by Pockets69

No we can't... and what would be the difference of a retail disc eboot and hdd eboot sir?

Disc EBOOTs don't use NPDRM, as far as I know xD
But alright, was worth a shot I guess.

8E068EDFA0C8DEA3
04-27-2012
05:57 PM

89

Originally Posted by cookie42

While it would be cool to have the bd fw cracked, this could only be used for piracy, kinda boring...

LOL what? this is just a freaking PS3 we are talking about, playing games on it and for free is its ultimate heavenly purpose.

anyway, I hope something comes out of this one.

Pockets69
04-27-2012
06:00 PM

90

Originally Posted by pereb27

Disc EBOOTs don't use NPDRM, as far as I know xD
But alright, was worth a shot I guess.

well you have a very good point sir, still you are thinking of running homebrew through a disk? we would still have no keys, either npdrm or not.

pereb27
04-27-2012
06:30 PM

91

Originally Posted by Pockets69

well you have a very good point sir, still you are thinking of running homebrew through a disk? we would still have no keys, either npdrm or not.

You can sign EBOOTs with 3.55 keys? They should work just like 3.55 or lower games work on 4.11.
Until they whitelist them aswell... (AFAIK the current whitelist on 3.56+ is only for NPDRM).

svenmullet
04-27-2012
06:43 PM

92

I think what Pereb is trying to say is that older games (signed with <=3.55 keys) still work just fine on 4.11, so homebrew could be packaged exactly the same way a retail disc is, and signed with 3.55. Might work, who knows? If the BD emulator correctly authenticates with the PS3, you could put anything on there.

Maybe this is a good thing (if it's real)

carldenning
04-27-2012
06:48 PM

93

i always thought that the 3.55 keys we had was diffent to sony 3.55 keys thats why their 3.55 keys games work , and ours dont cos they got blocked

svenmullet
04-27-2012
06:55 PM

94

Well, geohot gave us one keyset, (which sony blacklisted) but never divulged how to generate new ones. He's under a gag order now, under penalty of legal buttrape from sony, so I dunno. Maybe he should quietly leak that info to someone else. I mean, the scene donated thousands to him to save his ass, it's the least he could do in return

Ubefuct
04-27-2012
07:20 PM

95

Originally Posted by hellsing9

Well someone opened it again, suit yourself.

It's just a damn rumour, with 0 proof so far. Just 2 images and some info.

Just read thru the thread and spotted this. It maybe just a rumor but this one topic (being opened today) has had 6872 views at the time of this post. That being said, no thread should be closed with this kind of traffic. Ads help generate money for site costs, hot topics (rumor or not) help keep this great site alive. Please take no offence to my post, aside from prematurely closing some threads you're doing a good job.

DjKlown
04-27-2012
07:37 PM

96

And after reading thru 10 pages and on the 10 th page.... We still cant get thru the encryprion on new discs... This would rather be for running actual backups on hdd. On ofw. So no homebrew .. unless kaka hen is ran similar to this or can coincide.sp? But then again this is just rumor. Just like all my exploits in my head....ya digg

Carldenning... Our keys is sonys keys. They just never were implented right with security regarding ecdsa. Now that it is properly in there it is kind of hard to unlock bec well there hasnt been too many people working on a newer algo that hasn't been implented much.

To tell u the truth I wouldnt put it past Sony that this was their master plan all along. Sell high dollar console. Recoup costs. Leak some info... Keep selling implent new hardware ie eye. When accessory don't sell as expected. Like history shows. Leak more info. Work on new system. Let current system get hacked for piracy. Implent new security. Reap benefits. Release new system. Reap... But seriously they know their ****.. look at the age of these current consoles.... We know where this rant can go but mostly facts... Sorry for off topic a lil

Wolfie708
04-27-2012
07:43 PM

97

Originally Posted by DjKlown

And after reading thru 10 pages and on the 10 th page.... We still cant get thru the encryprion on new discs... This would rather be for running actual backups on hdd. On ofw. So no homebrew .. unless kaka hen is ran similar to this or can coincide.sp? But then again this is just rumor. Just like all my exploits in my head....ya digg

I read it as having the latest FW and being able to run HDD copies as if they were genuine discs (similar to Virtual Clone Drive etc on PC) , so we would be able to play all games just no homebrew (unless we can sort the .pkg stuff out???)

heywhosjake
04-27-2012
07:49 PM

98

Originally Posted by Wolfie708

I read it as having the latest FW and being able to run HDD copies as if they were genuine discs (similar to Virtual Clone Drive etc on PC) , so we would be able to play all games just no homebrew (unless we can sort the .pkg stuff out???)

as said earlier there is no need for pkg's if homebrew was converted to BD structure (which to my understanding is still not possible)

hellsing9
04-27-2012
08:04 PM

99

Originally Posted by Ubefuct

Just read thru the thread and spotted this. It maybe just a rumor but this one topic (being opened today) has had 6872 views at the time of this post. That being said, no thread should be closed with this kind of traffic. Ads help generate money for site costs, hot topics (rumor or not) help keep this great site alive. Please take no offence to my post, aside from prematurely closing some threads you're doing a good job.

Point taken, but kakarot's thread about HEN generated a triple traffic than this rumor.
I closed it, then someone open it again. So it's my bad.
Im not here to stop incoming traffic/hits on the threads, but since this kind of threads gets *downhill* very quickly y made that move = close it.

Im doing the best i can xD im still the *rookie*. So eventually i will be *alerted* again for this kind of behaviour.

No harm done

Regards

Hellsing9

djluiluv
04-27-2012
08:39 PM

100

all i know is that this def. gives me ALOT of hope...

zauberpilz
04-27-2012
11:49 PM

101

[MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]
This is a really weak argument

hellsing9
04-28-2012
12:23 AM

102

[MENTION=81796]zauberpilz[/MENTION] you gave a second tought to made an strong argument about a rumor?..
Please.

You know how this ends, even if the *this is real* will be produced/manufactured and labeled as another *gadget* to your PS3 for you to buy.
If i had the solution to this, or some kind of magical breakthrough i will give it for free.
Not in some *device* which now has 2 nice pics and a little piece of info.

There's no strong arguments or solid ones when the info is rumour.
Hope time will prove me wrong, but this is the way i think.

Im tired as some users here on the board, or even in other boards/sites about the famous catchphrase = "Will we release the product at the end of year" it's cliche, and it's getting old.
Same thing year after year, and nothing is released or produced (in this case).

AlexBaka
04-28-2012
12:36 AM

103

Oh..just got one thing. Why they are talking about some chinese retailer? nah..they are gonna sell it through one source, monopoly aghain. "if it's true"

hellsing9
04-28-2012
12:40 AM

104

[MENTION=215850]AlexBaka[/MENTION] that's my point, if it's a chinese retailer, we got another potential true-blue *gate* in door (see the paradox?).
Monopoly, and more cash to them. For a mediocre product that's not even been (yet) produced/fabricated.

zauberpilz
04-28-2012
01:50 AM

105

Originally Posted by hellsing9

[MENTION=215850]AlexBaka[/MENTION] that's my point, if it's a chinese retailer, we got another potential true-blue *gate* in door (see the paradox?).
Monopoly, and more cash to them. For a mediocre product that's not even been (yet) produced/fabricated.

without the new key's, or a way to bypass the security, only hardware can help!
so if this is true, let them earn some bugs.
but to compare a BD-Emulator with TB is moronic.
There's no DRM

hellsing9
04-28-2012
02:17 AM

106

Originally Posted by zauberpilz

without the new key's, or a way to bypass the security, only hardware can help!
so if this is true, let them earn some bugs.
but to compare a BD-Emulator with TB is moronic.
There's no DRM

Elemental my dear watson, elemental.

The drive controller contains a BGA-sized 2MB NOR flash memory chip for Blu-ray drive firmware code, with the contents encrypted. In addition to this, there is a 8MB SDRAM working memory chip. Each drive contains a unique identification number, possibly stored in the SPI Serial Interface Macronix EEPROM. This chip or the NOR flash chip probably stores the device key (and associated sequence keys), and the host private key.

Source = ps3devwiki

Still, it's my point of view versus yours.
Hardware? where you see it? you believe all what you see?.

DRM or not. And im not comparing TB (drm) with this, but the way *they* handle this things, the formula will be the same as TB = Closed source/profit.

If you want to keep your hopes on this, fine by me. But i don't give a damn until i see solid proof about this.
Not 2 pics and info and *yeah we will release at the end of the year*.

synce
04-28-2012
02:26 AM

107

I believe the word you were looking for is 'elementary'.

And I'm really surprised to see how many people would believe an unknown site with some pics of a hard drive and PS3 lol

It goes to show you desperate this ps3 scene is

Would someone please consider for a moment that this is their clever way of advertising?

hellsing9
04-28-2012
02:41 AM

108

It's another *elementary* rumor that will be end dead in 3 weeks. (if it's not keep feeding on differents conjectures, points of view, trolling and flame).
Yes, indeed it's a clever way of advertising a product that not exists. Besides what better way to watch (what happens) and plan an smooth strategic marketing move?.

landon
04-28-2012
02:44 AM

109

Don't close this thread, I remember that in 2009, when we see the first ODDE that was BoxZii, every one claims that was a fake, 20 months after, we have see the first real ODDE on the xbox 360 wich was the Xk3y, 3 months after the BoxZii become real & you can see-it now, so it wasn't a fake even if we had to wait 2 years to see it !!!

After all, let's be realistic guys, you knew more than me that most likely we'll never never see a CFW 3.6+/4.++, it's more than 15 months & nothing is real about hacking the new 3.6+ firmwares !! so may be this is the solution, let's wait & see.
Adding to this, the free hack didn't work longer, so may be a paid hack will be better & we see it on the PS3 scene, the best jailbreak solutions are the best one's, look at cobra dongle & it's functions, look at TrueBlue dongle, look at the E3-flasher...etc

look at the XBOX 360 scene & what did the Reset glitch hack, every kernel on-it is hacked now, we have dual-boot functions, dump/write tools, alterantif dashboards like FSD & the futur RXE...etc
Once the hack give to it's team money, it will meke them working more & more to present better solutions to the scene !

I am with this "PS3 bluray-PCB emulator" even if I knew that this could be a bad fake like every news we've seen on the PS3 scene since more than ne year (total of fakes is higher than total of real hack news). It's too bad but it's the reality.
Regards

kanketsu
04-28-2012
02:52 AM

110

BTW, wasn't there someone who hinted this kind of hardware solution coming soon from the TB team? I can't find the thread, but IIRC the guy previously got "insider info" about TB2 update, and then it happened accordingly. Then the guy post about TB's plan on releasing some kind of modchip this year.

Then this happened.

Maybe these PCB guys & TB are in the same team?

hellsing9
04-28-2012
02:53 AM

111

Xbox360 = microsoft is hacker friendly, PS3 ergo Sony = Not so much.
If all of you want to keep all your hopes up and wait a year or two years more and even with the release of *orbis*. It's ok.
We have two excellent hardware flashers like you said, it's no time of *easy solutions*.
How many things are on the market for the xbox360 = more than 9 products and totally versatille comparing with PS3 system.
We have the most reliable database the ps3devwiki.

But STILL i don't give even a CENT to this rumor.
I rest my case.

Cheesethief
04-28-2012
03:00 AM

112

Originally Posted by hellsing9

Xbox360 = microsoft is hacker friendly, PS3 ergo Sony = Not so much.
If all of you want to keep all your hopes up and wait a year or two years more and even with the release of *orbis*. It's ok.
We have two excellent hardware flashers like you said, it's no time of *easy solutions*.
How many things are on the market for the xbox360 = more than 9 products and totally versatille comparing with PS3 system.
We have the most reliable database the ps3devwiki.

But STILL i don't give even a CENT to this rumor.
I rest my case.

I am still waiting for the Aria Manager.

hellsing9
04-28-2012
03:06 AM

113

hahahah [MENTION=200937]Cheesethief[/MENTION] im waiting that too, i think i will add in some weeks another *name* to my blacklist thread. :P

WalangAlam
04-28-2012
03:46 AM

114

I'm waiting for this guy...

[2011-06-10 08:51AM UTC] #fw <c4eva> hello
[2011-06-10 08:52AM UTC] #fw <GhaleonX> hi c4eva
[2011-06-10 08:52AM UTC] #fw <GhaleonX> are you still planning to do anything with ps3 odd?
[2011-06-10 08:53AM UTC] #fw <c4eva> yes

[2011-03-17 08:48AM UTC] < *****> Hi, can you tell me something about your ps3 project ? Will you try to hack the ps3 BD fw ? or you abandon this project ?
[2011-03-17 08:49AM UTC] its on the list
[2011-03-17 08:50AM UTC] < *****> thanks for your answer
[2011-03-17 08:51AM UTC] < *****> you will probably try to do this after 0500 ?
[2011-03-17 08:52AM UTC] yes
[2011-03-17 08:56AM UTC] < *****> I’m very appreciative for everything you do for the scene Thanks

[2010-11-10 04:16] < ******> how’s the ps3 blue-ray firmware comming along?
[2010-11-10 04:17] ******:will look at that when finished here, got sidetracked!
[2010-11-10 04:48] < ********> c4eva, any info in you collaboration with demonhades on ps3 fw
[2010-11-10 04:48] ps3 fw comes next after all this!
[2010-11-10 04:49] < ******> will the ps3 fw do the exact same thing as the xbox fw? right now there is already homebrew out to run games off hard drive
[2010-11-10 04:51] ****:yes you cant play on psn with jailbreak

heywhosjake
04-28-2012
03:50 AM

115

Originally Posted by WalangAlam

[2010-11-10 04:48] < ********> c4eva, any info in you collaboration with demonhades on ps3 fw

oops??????

oPolo
04-28-2012
04:12 AM

116

Originally Posted by kanketsu

BTW, wasn't there someone who hinted this kind of hardware solution coming soon from the TB team? I can't find the thread, but IIRC the guy previously got "insider info" about TB2 update, and then it happened accordingly. Then the guy post about TB's plan on releasing some kind of modchip this year.

Then this happened.

Maybe these PCB guys & TB are in the same team?

Gravox said that an insider source told him they have another product on the release schedule this year(or was it this summer?). It wasnt said anywhere it was a modchip, but one can only assume.

qlum
04-28-2012
08:25 AM

117

Since noone has bothered making a better translation, I will so here it is:

No hacking , no flashing , no modding.

Emulation is the future. A team is currently working on a new hack for the Playstation 3.

The PCB of the blueray player has recently been cracked and can thus be cloned. The team probably Wasabi or the the team behind Wiikey is currently working in connecting the PCB to a external Hard Drive. This way downloaded games can be played like on the Wasabi360 and the Xkey for the Xbox360.

A big Chinese Retailer has also announced that it will be be released this year.

ElSalvatore
04-28-2012
09:51 AM

118

Originally Posted by qlum

Since noone has bothered making a better translation, I will so here it is:

Well, somebody allready has bothered making a good translation. :P

Are there any statements from Wiikey or Wasabi yet?
Or from the shops who claimed they would sell it this year?

But what would be of interest for me:
How does the BR-Drive work? The "Game" (or whatever disk is inside) loads, the keys are being checked and if they're right, the game is being played.

With a CFW we can install a Game Manager that supports p&p and loading games.

But why would it be possible, or what would you have to do to make it possible for a Drive Emulator to play games that are on a external HDD? And would that need p&p too?

(I was taking games as an example because that's the only thing that comes into my mind when thinking about BR-Discs in a PS3-Drive. :P)

And as so many already said before:
Don't get your hopes up! Might just be a Fake again. Or not... o.O

//Edit: Sorry for the noob-post. I really have no idea about the PS3 Security System. So if this post is bull****, then please excuse me! :-S

Ubefuct
04-28-2012
10:48 AM

119

I would imagine a drive emulator would register as the bluray drive, whatever ISO is mounted would be the disc loaded. Kinda like multi man only external.
Not saying this rumor is true, but there are remarry guides. So if you could register a drive as a disc drive there is probably a way to marry it to the system. It says no flashing/modding/soddering, if this does come out I bet you'll have to do a least one of them

AlexBaka
04-28-2012
11:40 AM

120

Just can't help doing this

ElSalvatore
04-28-2012
11:53 AM

121

Originally Posted by AlexBaka

Just can't help doing this

HAHA! I LOLed extremly hard! xD Nice move!

But if it was, it wouldn't be able to run on higher FW than 3.55.
Only if it is a new Dongle made for 3.55+, which they make so expensive now to earn more money...

Okay. I really start do believe that this has something to do with TB. xD

FreakAlchemist
04-28-2012
11:53 AM

122

[MENTION=215850]AlexBaka[/MENTION] If thats the case then nothing we can do about it.
I'd still be pissed though.

ElSalvatore
04-28-2012
12:23 PM

123

Okay guys, as I've seen on a certain site (and then got from there to another site) this is FAKE!

SOURCE

The site is in german, translated it would mean (short):

"Blablabla, how Drive Emulators work in general...
[...]
I contacted the said distributor "ChinaDistribution", who said they don't know anything about this product.
In my quote the mail I got from them."

His quote:

Hi,

i didnt know anything about this product, i don't know why people ARE thinking we are behind this device,

regards

ChinaDistribution

I don't know how reliable modcontrol is. That guy also says at the end of his post
"The pics of that thing also just look like a USB2SATA Adapter."

He also has a Quote from a guy with a Blue Dildo in his ass at the end (you know who I mean), but I won't quote him. Just have a look yourselfes if you want to. I posted the source...

I hope this comes out not to be a fake anyways. :'(

//EDIT: I WANT YOU TO KNOT THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW RELIABLE THOSE FORUMS ARE! I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW WHAT I SAW! PLEASE DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING I SAY, I'M STUPID! xD

Gumbie
04-28-2012
12:46 PM

124

I am somewhat confused by the excitment surrounding this even if it is real.
BD Emulation has been a feature of the PS3 since the beginning - just not on retail units.
On a debug unit you use the SDK to generate emu files (disc image) and they go onto a specially formatted HDD.
Plug into a debug and away you go.. Not with retail games of course

Sort of like we do with the WII to simplify it. Custom format, read by a custom tool (wbfs)

mcmrc1
04-28-2012
12:52 PM

125

Maybe this is the Xecuter HDXT PS3 Hard Driver Xtender

http://www.consolesource.com/ecomm/c...er-p-2593.html

Gumbie
04-28-2012
01:14 PM

126

Certainly does look like a Sata to Pata connector and indeed like they just used the photos from your link mcmrc1

just_idle
04-28-2012
01:28 PM

127

Originally Posted by Gumbie

I am somewhat confused by the excitment surrounding this even if it is real.
BD Emulation has been a feature of the PS3 since the beginning - just not on retail units.
On a debug unit you use the SDK to generate emu files (disc image) and they go onto a specially formatted HDD.
Plug into a debug and away you go.. Not with retail games of course

Sort of like we do with the WII to simplify it. Custom format, read by a custom tool (wbfs)

i thought about dex immediately. so why is it easier to build such a device than give out cex2dex? now it seems to me they want to make profit on retails with such "features". don't tell me this comes from scratch...

ElSalvatore
04-28-2012
01:32 PM

128

Okay, once again. Could anybody comment my post - or in other words: comment this thread on modcontrol.com?

http://www.modcontrol.com/Board/ps3-...ge-fakten.html

Cypherous
04-28-2012
02:36 PM

129

Originally Posted by furtsiv

i have to say it :this is fake!!
you can notice that the slim ps3 is using a female usb port (that supposed to be coming from the modship) to be used with usb hdd
and the phat ps3 is using sata port to be connected to the modship
now the big question is : it is realy hard to convert usb to sata ?? (of course not!!)
then why they have to make two modships one for slim(using usb hdd)& another for phat(usin sata hdd) ???
because simply its fake looL

Actually i think you're missing something, if you look at the USB cable on the slim you'll notice that it has 2 cables on it, this is common for powering some external laptop drives as they require the power from 2 USB ports to function, what it looks like they are doing is if you reference the second picture, it looks like they are using the power from 2 USB cables to power the controller and the drive itself, you can clearly see in the second image that the large power connector has 2 wires feeding in to it, it explains the differences in those 2 images but we cant see the PCB in the 1st image whereas we can in the second

heywhosjake
04-28-2012
04:44 PM

130

wow really the pics are taken from other sources and have nothing to do with the story what-so-ever

hint: The supposed PCB in the second pic is clearly just a IDE to SATA converter board

Originally Posted by mcmrc1

Maybe this is the Xecuter HDXT PS3 Hard Driver Xtender

http://www.consolesource.com/ecomm/c...er-p-2593.html

ered90
04-28-2012
05:44 PM

131

Better translation:
No hacking , no flashing , no modding.

Emulation is the future. There is one team that is currently working on hacking the PS3.

The Blueray player PCB of the PS3 just got cracked and can be cloned. The team(probably Wasabi) is currently working to get an External HDD connected with the PCB. With this you can play downloaded games as you can do with the Wasabi360 .

A big Chinese Retailer have said that it will be released this year.

hellsing9
04-28-2012
06:22 PM

132

Attention

I already saw as the users posting in this thread almost 4 translations saying the same. Refreain to translate the same one over and over again, if something new appears then do it if you want to.

Pockets69
04-28-2012
06:37 PM

133

^^ hellsing you could put the "better translation" on the OP, so people would see it, and stop translating it over and over again :S

hellsing9
04-28-2012
06:41 PM

134

[MENTION=224021]DEFAULTDNB[/MENTION] Can you edit on the first page and add the better translation so far? or add it as an update:

Better translation:
No hacking , no flashing , no modding.

Emulation is the future. There is one team that is currently working on hacking the PS3.

The Blueray player PCB of the PS3 just got cracked and can be cloned. The team(probably Wasabi) is currently working to get an External HDD connected with the PCB. With this you can play downloaded games as you can do with the Wasabi360 .

A big Chinese Retailer have said that it will be released this year.

From [MENTION=198824]ered90[/MENTION].

[MENTION=7151]Pockets69[/MENTION] i didnt think of that since it's a frontpaged thread i don't know if he can edit. (im new on that area).

Pockets69
04-28-2012
06:43 PM

135

you can, but it ****s up the frontpage, so better not do anything then.

hellsing9
04-28-2012
06:46 PM

136

Well he can update the frontpaged thread and add the translation text.

clevbro
04-28-2012
06:56 PM

137

why was a rumor with some bogus pictures front paged?

Pockets69
04-28-2012
06:59 PM

138

^^ because it was CLEARLY STATED as rumor, and people here frontpage whatever they want...

heywhosjake
04-28-2012
07:19 PM

139

Originally Posted by clevbro

why was a rumor with some bogus pictures front paged?

it's a traffic thread

Ubefuct
04-28-2012
09:49 PM

140

It's not just that ^^^ , people like to discuss rumors and possibilities of how/ what can be done with it. (Concept of it)

Off topic.... in a thread closed earlier, I seen [MENTION=7773]GregoryRasputin[/MENTION] post a Spiderman PICT that made me laugh. Thanks for that, didn't know Jason Alexander was the new Spiderman.

Side note ... the new hero chesty mctits looks awesome http://www.celebjihad.com/celeb-jiha...n-the-avengers

LoverboySimer
04-28-2012
10:30 PM

141

Originally Posted by carldenning

if its threw linux then tell me,how you can install linux on 4.11 ofw? cos u cant lol

no no you are getting me wrong i m not that noob, and sorry i think i failed to explain clearly

now this is how xk3y works
The motherboard connects to the SATA bus inside the Xbox 360, and sits between the drive and the Xbox 360 motherboard. x360key is a full-fledged computer system running embedded Linux. It is capable of many things such as
- Emulating the Xbox 360 DVD drive
- Reading USB hard drives and other USB media with various file systems
- Updating itself and other hardware from USB media
- Communicating with the remote and other external USB devices.

read : its a computer system running linux and sits between the drive and XBox 360

so i think the same thing will happen in ps3
ps3 will not run linux obviously but the attached device will

Cheesethief
04-29-2012
12:11 AM

142

I would not trust the distributor nor the #1 Dongle Dildo supporter. If this is real, they would both say no. If it is fake, they would still say no.

henry caine
04-29-2012
12:19 AM

143

"if this is true" u have to option buy dump cfw buy (if u didn't) all ur hack psn pkg/dlc and forget about all those crap-brew those coldboot vanity editor (oh let me make my ps3 all pretty) those stupid ass games made by 5 year olds those emulator that work better on ur pc anyways or u cold stay on cfw 3.55 forever and pray to ur god math to release the keys who need psn and new games anyways at least u'll always have ur crapbrew plus cfw X.XX is comming soon i know it

this will not allow cheating games servers perform hash check on the game partition of disk if i put a cheat enable 360 iso in my ixtreme console i get banned servers also monitors what u do in game online if u cheat u get banned remember those folks banned from black ops server on the freaking ps3 cfw

I hope this is true but I ain't holding my breath seen to many fakes lately
ps3 has now been upgraded from brain dead to comatose

new games + piracy + psn = winning

svenmullet
04-29-2012
12:39 AM

144

Using punctuation in your posts=winning.

heywhosjake
04-29-2012
12:43 AM

145

Originally Posted by henry caine

"stupid rant"

everything that you just said was rude, ignorant & immature toward the Scene in a whole

hellsing9
04-29-2012
01:49 AM

146

[MENTION=104194]henry caine[/MENTION] next time if you are going to bash be a little more specific and don't write a whole drama where is none.
A rumor it's just a rumor.

lexar21
04-29-2012
02:27 AM

147

[MENTION=126197]LoverboySimer[/MENTION] has a point. If they really have cracked the pcb, they can make a device just like xk3y. Another example of an optical disc drive emulator is WODE for wii. Two prime examples of how drive emulation works. They could just use existing knowledge of drive emulation. The only real question is did they really crack the pcb...

carldenning
04-29-2012
02:35 AM

148

Originally Posted by LoverboySimer

no no you are getting me wrong i m not that noob, and sorry i think i failed to explain clearly

now this is how xk3y works
The motherboard connects to the SATA bus inside the Xbox 360, and sits between the drive and the Xbox 360 motherboard. x360key is a full-fledged computer system running embedded Linux. It is capable of many things such as
- Emulating the Xbox 360 DVD drive
- Reading USB hard drives and other USB media with various file systems
- Updating itself and other hardware from USB media
- Communicating with the remote and other external USB devices.

read : its a computer system running linux and sits between the drive and XBox 360

so i think the same thing will happen in ps3
ps3 will not run linux obviously but the attached device will

thank you for explaining what u ment. now i understand much better ,what u was trying to say

lexar21
04-29-2012
02:40 AM

149

Oh, and a lot of people mentioned how they think homebrew maybe possible this way. I don't think we could get homebrew the way they are thinking of. However, isn't BD-Java only blocked from usb devices? We could build custom bluray images with BD-Java homebrew in them, could we not? Of course, it would be limited to what BD-Java can do. And I suppose this could already be accomplished by burning bluray discs with BD-Java homebrew then...

japsander
04-29-2012
03:50 AM

150

Originally Posted by Ubefuct

/snip http://www.celebjihad.com/celeb-jihad/first-look-at-scarlett-johansson-in-the-avengers[/url]

lmao at the trolling comments in that link. that place makes the ps3 scene look friendly

wolftje
04-29-2012
04:29 AM

151

the dutch site 'ombouw'. is just posting a hoax in order to get attention to their site...

Come on this has been done a million times !!!! If I would be a hacking group I would DDOS that Site to hell as they only goal is getting more hits to their site ...

really disgusting ...

Ubefuct
04-29-2012
05:27 AM

152

Wow, didn't scroll down that far. Seems I couldn't get past the cleavage. lol (maybe add a similar picture to the banner?)
Wouldn't have posted the link if I new there was that much hate talk. Sorry if anyone was offended,

DEFAULTDNB
04-29-2012
05:32 AM

153

Originally Posted by hellsing9

[MENTION=224021]DEFAULTDNB[/MENTION] Can you edit on the first page and add the better translation so far? or add it as an update:

From [MENTION=198824]ered90[/MENTION].

[MENTION=7151]Pockets69[/MENTION] i didnt think of that since it's a frontpaged thread i don't know if he can edit. (im new on that area).

[MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]

I don't seem to be able to edit it sorry

Pockets69
04-29-2012
05:56 AM

154

No probelm [MENTION=224021]DEFAULTDNB[/MENTION] ask [MENTION=7773]GregoryRasputin[/MENTION], he will be able to

djluiluv
05-01-2012
12:48 AM

155

Originally Posted by Ubefuct

Wow, didn't scroll down that far. Seems I couldn't get past the cleavage. lol (maybe add a similar picture to the banner?)
Wouldn't have posted the link if I new there was that much hate talk. Sorry if anyone was offended,

omg...i just knocked over my milk.......

fatguy666
05-01-2012
02:39 AM

156

Wish I'd known that site was NSFW before opening it - thankfully my boss had stepped out and missed the picture of Matt Damon with a bell end photoshopped on top of his head!

LilTunechi25
05-12-2013
05:36 AM

157

what ever happen to this getting released ?

[RUMOR] PS3 Blu-Ray Drive Emulation

157 Comments

Attention

I already saw as the users posting in this thread almost 4 translations saying the same. Refreain to translate the same one over and over again, if something new appears then do it if you want to.

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