We reached a point where all scene sites and his users in some kind of way are forced to buy a dongle. Like some kind of crazy sci-fi movie with subliminal messages inducing you to buy certain product.
Doesn’t matter where you look, you will see all dongle related news.
But this one, maybe looks like one but it’s not.
You are paying for something that eventually will get cloned again and improved in so many ways. So you have to *save* an extra bucks just in case if something new is released.
And the worst of the situation are the constant battles about how unfair it’s to own one or even to try to buy one.
As i saw the last days/weeks users defending the posture pro-dongle and giving serious battle to the anti-dongle users.
(I won’t name it, you know what im talking about)
And turns into an ugly disease very hard to erradicate.
Why is a disease?:
You maybe hear sometime on your life the next phrase:
Divide and Conquer.
If you divide the community, you can conquer.
If you conquer you get more buyers.
It’s not so hard to understand.
What about the cure?:
The cure is to mantain certain respect when talking about this type of *legal piracy* regarding the dongles.
The cure maybe it’s not buy them, hence more users buys the product generates more demand of it.
It’s not bad i respect that, like i said so many times it’s not my money when someone ask me if to buy or not.
I cannot tell a user/person; don’t buy because im against or i don’t like the way they do business.
I have no right to do that, but you can tell them what’s all about and maybe they will change their opinion or not.
But at least you tried.
Buy a dongle or die trying:Â
So many times we discussed about the keys, the anons with empty promises.
The fakes, the scammers, the prophets. (So many of them).
But when this arrived to the market, and people started to get *hyped* and buy it most of them (not all of them) in some kind of *ignorance* stated that the scene is dead.
Sadly it’s not dead, it’s alive but poisoned.
We have so many tools, apps, options to *play* but for the ones who want quick and *semi-effective* placebo-solutions they have a product that suits their needs.
The dongle.
Final toughts:
Sony removed all that we can use *in legal terms* when they wanted to.
Users buys a product that’s *legal piracy*.
I won’t be an hypocrite, since the exploit yes we used dongles in order to *advance*.
But we used them with an objective = Open more doors to hacking the console.
Not just only to run backups, instead for understand and learn about it.
I think people it’s getting more and more impatient and they rush to buy something that’s it’s infecting the scene that they now label as dead.
But..
Maybe someday we will see some brighter future, i said that so many times that i cannot convince myself about that.
Well it’s not news. Just another broken-english text that i wanted to share.
Regards
Peace
Hellsing9
05-17-2012
02:12 AM
well I will not buy a dongle, haha I will just use my 4.11 to play newer games on.
If its mods you want on newer games they can be done , I just posted Black ops mods online.
With the knowledge I have gained from working through that I believe any game is possible to fix/mod.
05-17-2012
03:25 AM
Kind of hard to use a dongle when I have a CECH-3001A on 4.11.
05-17-2012
03:40 AM
so, just stop talking about it and responding altogether if you want it to go away?
05-17-2012
04:10 AM
And this philisophical talking is keeping going... and going...
Sony please hurry launching PS4 with some hard security mesures , so that we can all move along...
05-17-2012
05:12 AM
the scene is dead we have tools, apps but we want new games and psn yes we can buy another ps3 but that leaves u with a no hacked ps3 and a semi hack ps3. currently the ps3 is stuck at cfw 3.55 for almost a year now even the homebrews have stoped all i see are tool, clones, and update to older apps. if someone wants to buy a dongle they might as well at least they can play new games the dongle devs are getting results ps3 devs aren't the evil dongle aren't the reason we don't have higher CFW so instead of hating on dongles either clone them or step ur hacking game up the evil dongles didn't make math release a 3.73 CFW pic just to torment us its stuff like that that poisons the scene the evil dongles didn't pit us against each other we did that to ourselves
keep in mind the evil dongle devs gave birth to the ps3 jailbreak in a scene filled with fakes
05-17-2012
05:57 AM
when the hacker gets Greedy The Dongles rises, I am very sure that the PPL who created the first CFW started to think of a way get some money for hacking the ps3 , They can crack what ever sony builds , they crack it once and they can crack it again , but what they will gain if they do it and post it in a website ,NOTHING So as long as there is Greed there will be dongles .
05-17-2012
06:58 AM
Hey Cheesethief what anime is that on your post?, looks cool..
sorry to change the subject......
05-17-2012
07:06 AM
I'd rather stay on 3.55 forever than buying a dongle.
05-17-2012
07:14 AM
LOOOOOOOL!
05-17-2012
07:25 AM
3.55 doesn't offer anything more , people that have a open PS3 want to play old games but especially new games so stuck at 3.55 cannot be significant anymore. anyway a new CFW with new keys will allow people to play and enjoy games that with dongle can have problems like DARK SOULS for example that start ONLY in ENGLISH LANGUAGE also if your XMB is setting to spanish or japanese or dutch or which language you want.
05-17-2012
08:00 AM
This here is bull****, nothing but speculative opinions. Not news, who the **** approved this kid's opinion to be news for the "scene".
This is not news, but I agree lets all live with dongles, use them or not.
Crying to the scene or to $ony is not news.
^^My opinion. Please front page this Greg ol buddy
05-17-2012
08:03 AM
Im going legit with my PS3 & installing OFW. Doesnt mean im going to buy anymore games for it just means I wont be able to try them first so ill need to hold off buying them for a little while until I do a little research to see whether there worth getting. Im just gonna really miss my Emulators :-(
05-17-2012
08:17 AM
[MENTION=179066]justanothaJB[/MENTION]:
correct, not a news topic, even better though... a plead for respect. Something many board members lack. I do grand that the post wasn't neutral and clearly showed his opinion, however it's his right to have that opinion and he posted it in a respectful way towards people who don't share it or who only share it partially(like me).
I hate to admit it, but I recently bought a dongle... I'm not proud of it at all, but my son's PS3 was starting to eat dust. It's still used for hb and old games, but not very often. That's why I decided to buy one.
then again, that's not what this thread is about, it's about not arguing when someone doesn't share your view. And trying to understand each other's point even if you don't share it.
edit:
one last thought:
if you decide to buy a dongle like I did, then don't forget that you partially support people with no morals at all. They deliberately added suicide-code to there device to ensure there profit. Please know that ANY suicide-code can go wrong at one point and harm even the people who bought an original device. For example, if your dongle(hardware) fails, it might not be detected as an original and the code might wipe your HDD. You can ask any decent programmer if you don't believe me. So you better make sure you can live with the fact that you support people with low morals.
05-17-2012
08:21 AM
Why pay 60 bucks for a dongle when you can pay 60 for a xbox
And play online with your originals might not be as good as
The ps3 but atleast its moving forward
05-17-2012
08:37 AM
05-17-2012
08:40 AM
05-17-2012
08:42 AM
I think everyone should just make peace and move on... Update your PS3 and RGH your 360. The console that really needs hacking is the one with a region lock and pay-to-play online
05-17-2012
08:46 AM
05-17-2012
08:50 AM
i hate these dongles
this is a stupid things
why we HAVE TO buy to hack ours console
ie,it has no sense,why kakaroto doesn t ask for money(it helped a lot the scene for free) while these teams yes
i don t want to use a stupid pen driver 4 ever to boot my ps3 and play a game
where are the cfws??
where are the homebrews!!!!!
and the emulators!
psp has so many hbs and cfw,why ps3 not
times ago someone posted the playload of these dongles,so this person know how to extract them,but noone used these file to fight the dongles
05-17-2012
09:04 AM
Only time and luck can get us new keys. Since Sony now knows what they did wrong and fixed there mistake. Now the security measures are implemented correctly. Only if Sony accidentally makes a mistake in encrypting a new game and we stumble on it, then we can find the new keys. A second option would be if we find a new exploit, but that's another long shot.
The only thing you can hope for is when someone manages to do what true blue does without the need of hardware. But they probably decrypt the eboots on a console with higher fw, and found a way to dump the decrypted eboot. Making it pure piracy and most people in the scene will not support it if it's only about piracy.
05-17-2012
09:33 AM
when this dongle CFW started working, i thought: "...this wont last for long, let me wait to a real hacking..." i waited...nothing...then i bought a dongle (ps3break, clone)...1 month after that, damn, the "real hacking" finaly got real (money wasted on ps3break).
it was a very small time of hapiness, since then, all i got was "tricks" to make some games work, no psn -> no multiplayer -> no new games, my ps3 is almost dead
what makes me mad is the FACT people said: "...we got ps3 root key, ps3 is open forever..."
hopes ? not much
05-17-2012
09:47 AM
I think we're at a point where it's up to sony to make the next move. I made my mind up a long time ago that I'm never buying another thing from them, because of the way they treated their users, but never say never; I'd rather be on OFW and lose the ability to do what I want than be on TB FW and... lose the ability to do what I want. So let's weigh the options:
OFW: Plays all games, allows PSN/Store/Video+music services. You're stuck there, there's no going back without a flasher. (and considering all the brick stories I read here, not an elegant solution) Free, as in costs nothing. (I don't take the cost of game discs into account, because that's a given)
3.55MFW: Plays all games (legit or copied) up till ~March 2011 release. Allows whatever you want as far as homebrew, peek/poke, linux, service mode. No sony network access and no new games.
TB: Plays the games they decide to patch. Doesn't allow anything else, including peek/poke. Service mode still usable, because it is 3.55, and you can still install any other firmware you want. Costs $60, although you can download all the games you want for "free".
I'm not a gamer, really, and could care less about the latest/greatest because to be honest, there's not really any games that interest me right now. I have no reason to update or buy a dongle, so looks like my decision is easy. Gamers have two options right now, go OFW or buy a dongle, and if that's you, maybe you should show a little morals and support those who made the games rather than those who stole a bunch of scene devs' work to make a profit enabling you to steal game devs' work. Don't go OFW to support sony; they don't deserve your support. Do it to support the devs who make the games you love so much. And to send a message to greedy underground scum who know how to advance the scene, yet chose to monetize it and add drm.
05-17-2012
10:33 AM
Interesting and respectful opinion, [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION], Greetings from Argentina.
05-17-2012
10:38 AM
[MENTION=207342]ninpo5537[/MENTION] it's hellsing
05-17-2012
10:45 AM
Guys the problem here is quite simple and histrionic diatribes such as this one miss the mark entirely. The 'scene' will continue to stagnate while it is fragmented. You have the majority of PS3 owners on the latest OFW having no access to homebrew or piracy, and only the hardcore pirates or homebrew developers remain on 3.55. The only market then for homebrew developers is a sea of pirates, a community which is unlikely to be as engaged or reciprocating as a community composed of both pirates and those purely interested in homebrew (and the many who fall in between). For most people "two PS3s" is not a viable option - or people wouldn't be compelled to pirate in the first place. Homebrew development will only be worthwhile with a dedicated user and developer community, which is impossible with the current OFW/CFW fragmentation. The dongle makers will always be around until this era ends, and words will do nothing to stop them. They are empowered to continue their nebulous machinations by the same veil of protection through which CFW was made possible. To make dongles redundant, and to reunite the community and reignite the scene, the only answer is a regularly updated CFW. It's not about piracy, it is about a userbase. The halcyon days of homebrew development were only possible when everyone was in the same boat. One of those boats is falling behind because the honest seaman are jumping overboard. It needs to speed up, lest it will be comandeered by pirates of the very worst kind.
05-17-2012
10:49 AM
This is why I am so surprised that devs and hackers are not destroying the PS3, any decent hacker would want to punish $ony by totally opening the console for everyone. But instead they just left, or as we think some sold out to dongle makers.
05-17-2012
10:56 AM
Well guys, 99% of the people on here would do the same thing these dongle people do! Its just like with anything else in this world. If you have something that people want and no-on else can make it, then you would be stupid not to make money off it! -I sold all 3 of my ps3's about 6 months ago and it was the best thing I ever did! I love my 360!
05-17-2012
10:58 AM
I have a few games from xmas collecting dust. But after the investment made in the PS2 I won't bother with a crippling solution that takes that away. Flashing is out of the question I will not risk opening it to get a SOD. So far been keeping busy on the xbox.
http://www.xcm.cc/xcm_cross_fire_converter_2.0.htm is a controller solution if the controller layout/setup on the xbox does meet your tastes.
05-17-2012
11:15 AM
05-17-2012
11:20 AM
hacking is all about learining and sharing and when they charge you for this... thats bs... I rather buy original ps3 games and support devs than those evil dongle bstrds.
05-17-2012
11:34 AM
05-17-2012
12:01 PM
$ony corporation is DAMN STUPID! They losing their sales numbers because people are selling their useless PS3s privately, to buy Retail Xbox's which makes Microsoft more successful. $ony must learn or forever lose the competition.
The console is superior to others but the company can't make the right decisions!
05-17-2012
12:49 PM
Rent an opinion, then criticize.
The scene is toast, well i will toast for you because i can relate you in some points but my contributions are not *technical* only.
And ironically instead of doing something for the scene you claim that it's toast/dead for you. But! you are the one sitting on your own comfy chair and doing nothing.
I rather stick doing this from time to time, instead of bashing or doing empty promises to the users.
Hax don't even needs more TRAFFIC to stay alive, i don't do this threads in order to keep hax alive. Because we inform, we help, and if we can't we try to help.
So zip it if you don't have nothing detrimental to say about the issue, instead of saying = the scene is dead, etc.
WTF you know about that? really?.
Tell me, wise guy.
05-17-2012
12:55 PM
Think ORBIS will save our asses? you are dead wrong there
05-17-2012
12:58 PM
i think the only one that could break the ps3 is c4va
so why not we send to him everyone a message suppling him to work for us miserable people & give him a courage like if he did it we all make a committee to gather donations....
05-17-2012
01:12 PM
I bought the dongle to play Video Games at virtually no price.
05-17-2012
01:12 PM
Root Key is coming soon
/ 
No one needs to fight over a dongle.
The time of the ps3 is coming to a end.
Ps4 will launch early.
Just a prediction from a nerd that pays attention.
05-17-2012
01:15 PM
05-17-2012
01:17 PM
if people really wanna play new games, why not play old games you never played? I mean like psx games. If those games are too old or you can't look at them, how can you even call yourself a gamer? Good games last the length of time; so, when tb gets cracked, you can go back and play the games that lasted and weren't exactly just fads or yearly games (like madden, any CoD, movie games, etc).
I would bet a lot someone is playing Super Mario World everyday. Granted those are really good looking sprites, but it's about gameplay and that's how i see it. Some psx games i pop in have warping and stuff, but idc as long as i can play it and it's fun. Check out Terracon. That game kinda blew my mind that it was psx and i think it was pal exclusive. You're an alien that pretty much just shoots everything on HUGE worlds. Another one is Omega Boost; that has beautiful graphics, near early ps2 imo, and it's amazingly fun.
If this is about playing new games, and you call yourself a gamer, then i think i gave you a perfect solution if you're not a dev and can't really help crack tb or something.
05-17-2012
01:17 PM
05-17-2012
01:19 PM
Since the xbox360 scene it's more *open* than PS3 scene.
05-17-2012
01:22 PM
05-17-2012
02:14 PM
05-17-2012
02:33 PM
[MENTION=201315]screwhead[/MENTION] i thought i was the same with cheats, but it was just cause at the time of me playing those games, i was young and all i could really do was cheat. now, i play as long as i can and if i get tired of the game, or i'm stuck, i'll sometimes look up cheats to see if it helps.
as i've gotten older, i don't really like cheats. i do like it though when developers add fun cheats like in blitz where you can get big heads and stuff like that; so, not really cheats, just kinda old school "mods"
05-17-2012
02:36 PM
05-17-2012
03:32 PM
If anyone released a Cobra Firmware without the need of a dongle i has a happy man.
Only have interest in playing PS2/PSP games on ps3.
05-17-2012
04:00 PM
Great post [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]
The Cure is like he said, just stand your ground and keep a level of self-respect and just don't buy it...
Maybe if some users left mom's house you'd know $60 is actually a lot of money if you're on your own. Really, not to be cheap but you can do a lot w $60 (if you're punk rock)
05-17-2012
04:18 PM
Ive been on the this site since the CFW came on here and I was interested in everything. every day I checked the site for New Things and news. Now I check it maybe one a week and I guess the drama and some basic things keep me to read on here. Me as a very hardcore gamer. wouldnt mind seeing an N64 Emu, DS, Possibly dolphin, increase the capabilities of multiman, and find someway for Ps2 games to work. most of those probably wont happen or cant be done but I dont mind having 2 ps3's one online and offline. ill still sit here patiently untill something new comes out.
and I just want to point out thats its not just this site that took its losses its all the other sites. the other guys won. its that simple. most of this stuff wasnt even hackable untill recently and we still got time down the road.
05-17-2012
04:32 PM
I think that the ps3 scene is just too focused on "playing games"... yes I realize the ps3 is a video game console, but more often than not the people who have the know-how to get things done are not as focused on bringing YOU the latest games.
Hacking for the ps3 is surely to be one of the most unrewarding/frustrating experiences to have befallen any dev. There's a lot of trolls, entitled kiddies, rude/impatient peeps, etc. The things I've seen posted in release threads is downright abusive. For example, you have individuals calling a dev's hardwork "useless", or something to that effect.
As other have already said, I would sooner buy pre-owned games, then give these individuals my money. I can't quite reconcile the hypocrisy of buying a product that is used exclusively to pirate (any other use for TB?) that is basically functioning, for all I hear, as a DRM dongle. If they released notes on how their method worked, and they were charging for the convenience of having the hardware and software sold to you I wouldn't be as opposed to buying it. I know some are going to say that "Well sony will find out what they're doing that way" sony made this machine, so I'm fairly confident they can reverse engineer anything they do.
Despite all that, I do agree to each his own. I don't expect everybody to feel as I do, but I wish that next time I buy a console at least 80% of the people who currently only talk about playing "backups" don't buy it as well.
05-17-2012
04:38 PM
[MENTION=224307]DarkMessiah[/MENTION], I thought this was funny, I have a weird brain.
Location: Lithuania,Marijampole -> Marijampole, Lithuania
I want to live in Marijuania :P
05-17-2012
04:40 PM
Buy a dongle if you wanna play newer games for a bit longer till sony stops them.
Dont wanna pay for dongle be a cheap skate but dont moan about someone else getting the joys of a dongle.
Update to newest firmware and stop *****ing about devs not doing your dirty work.
I got a media center ps3 on 3.55 that keeps the 2 year old happy long live the stagnent scene.
05-17-2012
04:57 PM
The point is that dongles hold the scene back. If the devs of all the dongle groups weren't fighting for money, they would be free to work on more useful projects. Not only that, but it upsets some of our current devs that people in our scene are behaving so poorly. Most important to me though is that they are in both the hacking and piracy scenes, and in neither is this method of profiteering acceptable. Making money is fine, but don't take it from the communities, take it from the companies. Maybe I'm just biased, maybe not.
05-17-2012
05:04 PM
scotty, are people a cheap skate for having two ps3's but still refusing to buy a dongle?
that's gregory right there...
i also meant that too, to the guy that said he's watching old cartoons along with playing more n64 games. i started watching the dragon ball series a while ago. it sucks cause my computer stopped, so i can't stream it anymore and have to wait for rmvb support by showtime. i almost finished it and got close to starting dbz. i think i pulled like 3 all nighters watching the show and still didn't finish it all.
anyways, so are we all agreed, if people want new games, just play games that are new to you. what's the difference if you're a gamer?
05-17-2012
05:24 PM
I appreciate what ps3hax does and the work they put in. However, I dont know why this was front page news. I know times are slow and all, but this thread was born to be closed for the same reason just about every other dongle thread has been. This isnt new news by any stretch of the word and will only lead to fanboys vs haters attempting to get a verbal one up on the other. Ultimately, getting us no closer to the universally desired end result. This opinion has been echoed and echoed and echoed some more. The majority of us hope for some grandiose CFW to save us from the pits of dongle hell (even those that have purchased one). However, at this point, it feels like praying to a false God to win the lottery.
Continuing to beat this dead horse is like going to a piñata party 6 months late and smacking the remnants hanging from a tree, hoping more candy will fall out.
Heres to hoping for a bright future where the ability to run/play any/all homebrew, games from HDDs, n64 emus, and the like surface before we are all playing on the ps4 chasing the same parked cars. Thats my 2 cents and its not worth that.
05-17-2012
05:37 PM
made me smile
05-17-2012
06:26 PM
thats why i have 2 PS3 console with OFW and CFW
05-17-2012
07:49 PM
I am so thankful for true blue dongle, as I've been enjoying the newest games, Skyrim and Arkham city are worth the dongle alone. Plus all the others I already have. I don't understand the people who are against true blue, they gave us the option to play pirated games for a very fair price, if you want to play original disc games, just buy them and update your console, easy as that.
05-17-2012
08:11 PM
Excellent Post! i agree AMEN!
05-17-2012
08:11 PM
then the ps4 will arrive if sony still in business get hacked but not publicly relase the hack for the backlash.. not from sony from all the hatred here
05-17-2012
08:36 PM
This is my problem $ony took took a known dev to court because he released something that could potentially be used to pirate games.... But where are they to control a device that actually is mainly used for pirating games? This makes no sense at all to me... I am no where near as smart as some of these devs out there but I have always been, and always will be a supporter of open source information, this dongle sh*t is a joke and so are the peole that back them up... I have two ps3s and could care less about pirating games obviously because I do not own and will not own a dongle... My point is $ony picks and chooses who they go after, or sony has their hand in this dongle cookie jar as well... Its honestly too bad that we do not have anyone else with the mind to do something with the ps3 the way geohot and failoverflow did... If we did have an individual like that, ithey would be a saviour for people like me and the anti-christ for peole like $ony... Do not get me wrong I appreciate and give major credit to the devs that are still working on tools and homebrews for cfw, I guess in some ways I am disappointed in people that could do something like this and eventually turned into a sellout because they are scared of $ony...!
05-17-2012
10:05 PM
It's not the PS3 can't be hacked... it's that nobody really wants to hack it.
It was out for 3-4 years, untouched.. then Geohot got one and within months there was CFW.. then dongle soon after.
The scene needs people like Geohot, DarkAlex and C4E.
05-17-2012
10:27 PM
btw, showtime supports rmvb :D i can finish dragon ball now
05-17-2012
10:29 PM
05-18-2012
12:14 AM
Well first of all, Sony did great job with all the trials and police things, i think thats one of the main reasons the scene cant advance more, because we cant talk/publish or do anything freely or Sony will immediatly try track you down to scare more ppl of if they see danger on you. A second reason is all the drama between ppl (scene devs, dongle devs, etc), not cooperating together and always fighting for credit, money or being arrogant.
Honestly i always paid to hack my consoles since i was young if it was "hackeable": ps1, ps2, ps3 (ps3key) and 3ds (supercard ds2). I didnt pay for my wii and psp thanks to the scene.
Some ppl complains about $60usd, but for me, thats nothing. The price of the dongles outside of US is about 100 or 130USD because of import taxes. And you can get 60 dollars in one day in US, but in other countries you have to work at least for 1 week or more to get that money.
But well thats not the case here, in my opinion i agree to pay for a dongle, modchip, etc. Why? thats easy: because im buying a product. They are investing in parts, manufacturing the product, and investing time too for research (updates and things like that).
I would agree if some devs starts to make real progress and starts to sell a 4.11 CFW, because they would be investing time in research and programming, and they would give you something that works.
Dongle or Scene, it doesnt matter. Someone who dedicates and invests time or money should be paid for their work, its decision of every person to give their work for free or not.
And if someone is using other's ppl work to get money, well, then get the Copyright thing for your work, dont share it or ask for money before that thief does.
05-18-2012
12:27 AM
lolz, i'm sure everyone who says that developers should be paid for their work have never donated to a developer in their life. how do i know that? cause almost no developer has gotten donations :P so stop saying that unless you have actually donated to a developer who didn't slap a drm on their product and a price tag. that's what i've been talking about, they have forced business and that's pretty messed up.
seriously, a few people have said that devs should be paid. they should be, but there are jobs for that and usually it's not like open source material which should be free. so, again, donate to all the developers that make showtime, multiman, snesnext, etc. if you really believe so.
[MENTION=103718]scottydog[/MENTION] and [MENTION=167138]al2gaiden[/MENTION]
05-18-2012
12:44 AM
I have also been checking this site for the last year the most exciting thing I have done is use e3flasher to create a dual boot 355cfw and 4.11ofw so I can do all those things play the latest games and use my 3.55 for back ups but I still can't back up my latest games!!!
FU true blue dongle I will and never will buy you! I've stood my ground for this long I'll probably just throw my ps3 in the rubbish bin soon!
05-18-2012
01:00 AM
wait, why would you throw the ps3 away? you got the best of both worlds without something sucking your soul every second of the day.
i'll take your dual booting ps3 off your hands :D :P
05-18-2012
01:22 AM
Oh it sucks my soul...the point of having a fully hackable console is to not pay for your games download em and play em...call me what you like.
But ps3 hacking scene is dead dead dead.
05-18-2012
02:47 AM
i'm guessing you're trying to get a rise but i'll appease you.
the point is to be able to do what you want like run emulators, play unsupported content, backup games, use features that are locked, etc...
the iphone totally killed the hacking scene with everyone thinking it just means free stuff. leave it to apple...
05-18-2012
08:18 AM
If you guys didn't make the dongle creators rich, then they would be forced to release to the public what was meant to be for free.
The usb dongle psjailbreak (the first one), was okay they wanted money for their work, we accept that. TB killcode is something that is far away from okay. DRM protection in a tool which is mostly used for piracy (workaround DRM protection) is sick.
Guys cry out I want to play newer games and peek poke in my CFW, maybe TB will change that.
The scene is poisened because people don't open their eyes and just belive every ****in' bull**** they see. If I make a CFW with the name CFW KDSBest 4.11 and upload screens of it everything would go insane without the slightest proof. OPEN YOUR EYES! Read what's behind all this. Most people have no idea, how most of the devs work. That's why it gets splitted into lets call it black hat and white hat. And then people blame the white hat not todo anything and the black hat the evil dongle makers are so great. I can pirate newer games. -.- They steal your money, hacking is meant to be for free and for public. And this reaction made most of the white hat not share precise information. Guys like me (and i never leaked anything and i would never leak other peoples work) are working hard to get their information alot people already have, but don't share because most of them don't see why they should help you guys, who are so false directed in their attitude.
If you want a change. Start with yourself, learn coding and reversing and do your own **** instead of complaining.
... This could go endless. I leave it that way.
And behind the scenes there are alot results, but they don't share. Don't ask me why.
PS: I quoted you, cause you were the first that get me made. There are alot others who I can quote, so don't take it personal.
05-18-2012
09:50 AM
[MENTION=206989]the one true[/MENTION]
I can't expect more from you on that side.
You have a point there, the whole thread frontpaged (not by me but a fellow member of hax and mod done it) It's based on MY OPINION about this.
If you don't like opinions i can show you the way out.
Seems that you are the intolerant here, not me.
I don't have a flag of sony or the dongles, like you said = Opinion.
I done the thread from scratch with NO intention of generate a war. Just a call to be more respectful when this kind of threads appears from nowhere.
And how to deal with them with RESPECT.
If you respect me i will respect you, it's a golden law.
After all it's a frontpaged thread with MY opinion.
I work on IBM and google and? what's your point a competition about who is the one who knows and studied most?...please.
Im not a messiah, neither a pariah. Just a random user whose opinion was frontpaged. Guilty as charge.
I have flaws as everyone else, including you.
My advice to you it's that if you don't have an strong argument based in an opinion. Just show your nice résumé to the hax members.
1) RENT an opinion because the one i wrote was frontpaged (and i repeat in order to you understand) not by me, by another mod. And i see no harm there.
Still it's my OPINION, you keep going in circles.
2) PERSONAL opinion ring any bells?
3) *A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.*
Goodbye
P.s: I said OPINION (with this one) 18 times.
05-18-2012
08:05 PM
Dongles are not a placebo, I actually played FFXIII-2, Shadows of the Damned and Ace Combat 7 using JBK. While their promise of being able to crack future TB fw might be a lie, the ability to play the games up to 2.51 is real. Same thing with TB, while $ony might be able to block them in the future, the ability to play games up to this point is real. So while these are not "cures", they are real medicine for the current condition, not a placebo.
05-18-2012
08:38 PM
"Placebo" was the perfect word to describe these dildos and what they offer.
05-19-2012
04:31 PM
Still if your goal is to play some games we can't play on 3.55, then it might do what you need. Although I must say, that I can't help but cringe when they speak of these dongles as if they are a part of "the scene".
05-19-2012
06:22 PM
[MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]
I'd very appreciate if you would stop using your administrative resource and frontpage your "opinions". Obviously you don't do it yourself, but it's done with your permission, so you're not better. You don't like TB? Pretty hopeless to be you indeed.
1) PS3 scene is dead and been stuck on 3.55 for almost a year.
2) TB constantly upgrades and develops it's libraries that allow users to enjoy games 3.55+
3) PS3 scene leeches from TB's achievements and can't really keep up with it, no matter how hard it tries.
4) It seems that the only problem is TB asking for a little extra to reward those who actually KNOW HOW TO MAKE PROGRESS DAMMIT. They make stuff work.
And until proven otherwise it's them who make real progress. Why? JB WAS MADE TO LAUNCH BACKUPS.
PLACEBO = something that doesn't work, but makes you feel better.
JB = something that WORKS, aimed at launching backups, makes you feel better if you look for launching backups.
Backups work = JB works = JB is not a placebo.
Hellsing butthurt = JB still works = JB is not a placebo.
What is scene? Crappy homebrew games, dev tools, media players and file managers? NO. It's everything homebrewed. Is TB a homebrew? Damn sure it is.
So you can laugh, you can cry, you can frontpage your opinions, but it doesn't change a thing. TB is a part of the scene and TB is not a placebo for those who want new games.
05-19-2012
07:47 PM
[MENTION=228854]Morphine_OD[/MENTION]
so what your saying is
the scene = a business/moneymaking/turning a profit,etc
TB works? umm, actually what works is those magic eboots. without them TB does ****. IMO the dongle is just for DRM and if they didn´t put DRM on the eboots we would all be happily playing the latest games without the dongle.
an example of a "scene" warez group. Duplex. At least they´re doing it for the hacking and sharing.
TB is to make cash. what´s "scene" about that?
Even if I thought TB didn´t suck I would still hate it for all the fighting and trouble it has caused in the ps3 "scene".
05-19-2012
08:02 PM
I have to make a correction here:
The PS3 Scene is alive, barely, but alive.
The PS3 Pirating Scene is breathing it's last breaths with TB, but is otherwise dead on 3.55.
05-19-2012
08:31 PM
Placebo, for your information. Sometimes works, sometimes not.
So it's has a double meaning here on MY OPINION for ****s sake. I did NOT frontpage my opinion.
And IF i want to frontpage my NEXT opinion, i have the right to do it. And you have the right to ***** about it.
I don't care if TB works or not or JB works or not. I don't own that dongles BUT i respect the ones who have them.
What part of the WHOLE opinion you don't understand buddy?, let me tell ya. If you have nothing to say, zip it.
So stop with the *abuse of my powers* or such things. Or i will be forced to use them.
05-19-2012
10:51 PM
Just out of curiosity, why do TB users that think it so grand come to these forums for? I mean, last I checked eboots aren't released here? I'm honestly curious. It's like some sort of masochistic thing? As far as I can see none of the mods are supporters, nor particularly fond... or they outright hate TB.
05-20-2012
02:53 AM
[MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]
Funny how you fail to read carefully.
Meaning that it doesn't work medically, but sometimes makes you feel better physically.
TB - doesn't deceive. It's being honest - you pay, you play. TB has middleware libs that redirect calls to actual 3.55+ thus allowing creation of custom EBoots. So it totally isn't medically ineffectual treatment because it actually is effective in it's sole purpose - playing games. Sure the dongle itself is a DRM measure, but it's no deception - it's a straight up product that walks that extra mile to protect it's interests and stay ahead of the competition.
05-20-2012
03:16 AM
TB doesn't decieve, you pay for something that it's *legal piracy*.
TB doesn't decieve, you have to come to forums (like this) or others in order to keep your eboots up to date and if something fails with the dongle you ask here wtf happened.
TB doesn't decieve, you are paying something that's free.
TB doesn't decieve, you are doing warez and don't give a single **** about homebrews, development, new ideas.
TB it's a retard, stupid, useless piece of dongle for the users like YOU that want quick solutions and pay an extra bucks to warez.
And then put in a pedestal of pure win a piece of useless trash. But the users like you when the dongle fails (or the product fails) are the first ones to trashtalk about what you bought and how failed at you.
Ergo, it's a placebo.
Why?, because you are so friggin blind that you don't want to see how things works.
Just plug and play.
Enjoy your placebo.
I enjoy mi opinion.
05-20-2012
03:53 AM
The great Aldous Leonard Huxley would say: soma for the restless, while Neil Postman would amuse himself to death with it...
05-20-2012
05:07 AM
Network - "I'm as mad as hell" speech [english subtitles] - YouTube
05-20-2012
05:47 AM
[MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]
Deception is an act to propagate beliefs that are not true. Everything you've wrote is true and TB never ever told otherwise. So where is deception? There's none AFAIK.
05-20-2012
08:56 AM
yeah so many hypocrite here... i support true blue to play new games... its only cheap... thats why you hacked your ps3 to play backups to download backups and play back ups, dont be a hypocrite, you dont support piracy if you jailbreak your ps3 of course you support piracy... this scene support piracy, scene is piracy, so dont be a hypocrite... it's ok to buy dongles, since we jailbreak our ps3... if you people are mad at trueblue then you make your own hack if you cant juest buy some dongle and shut up!
05-20-2012
09:45 AM
You know i don't like calling people rude names, but that is the most f*cking retarded post i have ever read, so therefore you are the biggest retard i have ever replied too >.<
Be back later after i have finished throwing up after reading such a disgusting vile post.
05-20-2012
10:14 AM
"I don't use backups on my CFW PS3, nor do i use it for pirate games and no i didn't hack my PS3 to play backups."
well your the retartded here!!
05-20-2012
10:18 AM
Cfw does not exist to play backups, it exists so that restrictions towards homebrew are lifted. It just so happens that some devs take it a step further and allow backup use. Anybody who thinks otherwise needs a re-education, ASAP.
05-20-2012
10:21 AM
Yep and such things as TB exist solely to play backups. Piracy is an unwanted child of the scene, but it's still kinda a child. Therefore TB is a part of the scene and for all the people that are in it for the piracy it's a godsend.
05-20-2012
11:20 AM
if you dont support piracy then you shouldt have jailbreak your ps3 in the 1st place... you guys are retard omg!
1. jailbreaking ps3 is a piracy! you think is not piracy? well you are a retard!
2. if your not playing backups on a jailbroken ps3 your a retard!
well if it's not piracy why sony want to stop it? you guys think its legal? then you all retards... if you guys dont like piracy.. then this site should have been closed long ago, if you dont like piracy then don't support jailbreak...
05-20-2012
11:27 AM
05-20-2012
11:37 AM
2. backups are not illegal dumbass, warez copies are.
you are the retard now kindly research your sh*t before spouting crap
05-20-2012
01:14 PM
Not trying to piss anyone off here but I just think its dumb when people fight on the internet.
I kind of feel like the anti dongle people are similar to vegetarians. While I respect your view, your not really changing anything and kind of spiting yourself. In the same way vegetarians will say meat is murder, the AD will tell you your stupid and TB stole code that was free to begin with. Still not sure how you can steal something that's free.
Without a doubt TB will be free at some point and I hear that side, you guys are paying for something that will be free. But isn't that true about pretty much everything. I mean if I go see Avengers iin the movies its like 15 bucks. I could wait 3 years and probable watch it on netflix or free tv. Same with games, if I buy something new its 60 bucks. If I wait a while I can can that game for 10-20 bucks.
I also don't think TB is the evil empire people make them out to be. The whole deleting of stuff isn't the nicest thing. But thats to prevent other dongles. So if your anti dongle, why would you care that they are trying to prevent other dongles? If TB was really that evil they wouldn't give updates and would have you buy a new dongle every time.
Also if nothing else TB is probable the best made dongle I have owned quality wise. Had 4 so far, but seriously this one is heavy and made with steel. If I threw it at someone I'm pretty sure I would kill them. So when TB is absolute I can use it as a ninja star.
05-20-2012
01:49 PM
Still going strong.
05-20-2012
01:52 PM
Dildo's are designed to be strong, so you gays have nothing to worry about....
05-20-2012
01:52 PM
oooops i meant *guys......
05-20-2012
02:27 PM
I'm in no way picking on you, but you clearly don't know enough about this topic to understand our beef. I'm in not a developer, or anything, but I believe in freedom of such info, and I loath people that take advantage of other's good nature.
05-20-2012
05:02 PM
[MENTION=204892]malex[/MENTION]
Actually free is something you don't have to pay for. OpenGL is free and is used in a lot of not free applications. Same thing is here - free knowledge is used to develop a commercial product.
In Russia we have a brilliant proverb for that: "A dog barks - a caravan goes". So keep on flaming, I'm sure it adds more sales to TB. After all that's how I knew about it in the first place - from one of the flaming articles here.
05-20-2012
06:15 PM
Unfortunately, that is true. But I did learn that this is basically just a backup (or pirate [depending how you see it]) device for only that purpose and nothing more.
05-20-2012
07:05 PM
05-20-2012
11:34 PM
Really this one excerpt from your post shows the level of ignorance and tolerance for hypocrisy that some of you are capable off. I never knew just how much utter FAIL a combination of 7 words could amass, congrats for that.
Now if you'll excuse me I must take a shower... I do respect your all of your arguments (although I think you're wrong), but that DRM defense bit is just about the most disgusting thing I've read.
05-20-2012
11:45 PM
[MENTION=228854]Morphine_OD[/MENTION]
Old saying :
The great thieves lead away the little thief.
Diogenes
05-21-2012
02:23 AM
there's realy somethine wrong to all this people who hate's trueblue... they keep whining.. is there realy something wrong to make money for the hack you make? if i was the one who create tb im gonna sell it too... why the f*ck will i share it for free if i can make profit of it? all you guys that want free hacks, makes your own hacks and if you can't stop whining... this scene is all about jailbreak, trueblue is a tool of jailbreak... its a part of the scene...
05-21-2012
02:52 AM
Tb is a part of the scene, but it is also tearing this scene apart.
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