• oct0xor is doing some progress.

    I will clarify some points here:

    This is a progress being made but it’s a step forward in the research.
    It’s not a magical solution, takes some serious time to do this and dedication.
    So wait, avoid trolling, and we will keep you posted.

     

    Follow him on twitter @oct0xor

    Discuss in Forums (165)


  • 165 Comments

    1. mirkie
      06-06-2012
      06:52 AM
      1

      Rip TB and Cobra. You were fitting great in your customers asses. What are you gonna do now?

    2. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      06:58 AM
      2

      Originally Posted by mirkie View Post
      Rip TB and Cobra. You were fitting great in your customers asses. What are you gonna do now?
      Hide? xD

    3. Hannibal1471
      06-06-2012
      07:00 AM
      3

      ;d

      Hell yeah. Soon the war will be over with the dongle makers as losers.

      Thank you oct0xor! :D

    4. mirkie
      06-06-2012
      07:02 AM
      4

      Originally Posted by hellsing9 View Post
      Hide? xD
      LOL. Guys lets contact sceners like Paradox(they get eboots from leechers) to get us eboots. At every company you have leechers.

    5. bigo93
      06-06-2012
      07:04 AM
      5

      Brings a tear to my eye. :'(

    6. ElSalvatore
      06-06-2012
      07:06 AM
      6

      HELL YEAH! THE SCENE IS ALIVE AGAIN! IN YOUR FACE TB AND COBRA! F*CK YOU B*TCHES!

      I feel like I'm back alive. xD

      [MENTION=219432]mirkie[/MENTION]: I think it's very possible that Paradox got money from TB for releasing those eboots for TB only.

    7. justanothaJB
      06-06-2012
      07:12 AM
      7

      I wil go ahead and stake my rep on saying this is BS. Nothing will come from this.
      Lets see if Im wrong.

    8. ElSalvatore
      06-06-2012
      07:17 AM
      8

      Anybody know whether he will share his findings with us? o.O

    9. mirkie
      06-06-2012
      07:20 AM
      9

      Originally Posted by ElSalvatore View Post
      HELL YEAH! THE SCENE IS ALIVE AGAIN! IN YOUR FACE TB AND COBRA! F*CK YOU B*TCHES!

      I feel like I'm back alive. xD

      [MENTION=219432]mirkie[/MENTION]: I think it's very possible that Paradox got money from TB for releasing those eboots for TB only.
      Don't think so. I think TB has give them a compiled exe to make the eboots (patch it and encrypt it with tb encryption) useful. Sceners never asks money but donations.

      They are eboots that are for testing only(developers). They get leeched by hired programmers or their own workers. Those eboots normally goes to Sony and they sign it with the latest keys.

    10. ocam
      06-06-2012
      07:28 AM
      10

      Originally Posted by mirkie View Post
      Rip TB and Cobra. You were fitting great in your customers asses. What are you gonna do now?
      they will come back as the real devs that helped naehrwert and oct0xor to crack the dongle and to unlock all the potentials of the stick

    11. pSydeFX
      06-06-2012
      07:31 AM
      11

      Originally Posted by ocam View Post
      they will come back as the real devs that helped naehrwert and oct0xor to crack the dongle and to unlock all the potentials of the stick

      sure and they will refund all who bought their dongles also. yeah right

    12. ElSalvatore
      06-06-2012
      07:34 AM
      12

      Originally Posted by mirkie View Post
      Don't think so. I think TB has give them a compiled exe to make the eboots (patch it and encrypt it with tb encryption) useful. Sceners never asks money but donations.

      They are eboots that are for testing only(developers). They get leeched by hired programmers or their own workers. Those eboots normally goes to Sony and they sign it with the latest keys.
      As "Sceners" they would have done everything against TB. Supporting TB means you're against the scene. That's how I see it. And if they would not have gotten anything from TB for their work, I think they wouldn't have done it!

      TB was depending on Paradox. So why should Paradox not want money, since TB is making a lot of money with Paradoxes work? That would not only be stupid by Paradox but also insane.

      And as real Sceners they would never have started to wor with TB!

      €DIT:


      Originally Posted by pSydeFX View Post
      sure and they will refund all who bought their dongles also. yeah right
      [MENTION=202343]pSydeFX[/MENTION]: it seems like some users here have a healthy amount of optimism.

    13. mcmrc1
      06-06-2012
      07:34 AM
      13

      can pls a dev explain how this will lead us to what ? in a noob non dev language pls

      what means stage 2 or 1 ?

      devrypt their eboots i think i understand...he got an exploit or workaround for decrypt them...so we can look @ the eboots and search where they modified them and this will lead us how Fu Blue works....hmm maybe this is all wrong...so pls what the hell means this ****

    14. haz367
      06-06-2012
      07:36 AM
      14

      people should stop asking if they wil share...good things come eventually
      let's give the scene a boost again, we need it hehe

      great job, keep it going!

    15. ocam
      06-06-2012
      07:37 AM
      15

      Originally Posted by pSydeFX View Post
      sure and they will refund all who bought their dongles also. yeah right
      who said something about refund?

      some quiet devs will now start to post **** on twitter and forums how they can help and how they found **** too. I bet that we will see math again when this **** is cracked

    16. ElSalvatore
      06-06-2012
      07:39 AM
      16

      Originally Posted by haz367 View Post
      people should stop asking if they wil share...good things come eventually
      let's give the scene a boost again, we need it hehe

      great job, keep it going!
      After what has happened to the scene - so F*CKING MANY devs bragging around that they have discovered something but in the end not releasing ANYTHING - why are you wondering that so many ppl ask?

    17. haz367
      06-06-2012
      07:48 AM
      17

      yes i understand, but asking for it in every topic isn't helping either, nobody personal..just in general...a little ignoring, less *****ing...patience..and things wil show up eventually..wel let's hope anyway

    18. deinvater57
      06-06-2012
      07:49 AM
      18

      is this usefull?

    19. pSydeFX
      06-06-2012
      07:52 AM
      19

      Originally Posted by ElSalvatore View Post
      After what has happened to the scene - so F*CKING MANY devs bragging around that they have discovered something but in the end not releasing ANYTHING - why are you wondering that so many ppl ask?
      well theres either those that discovered something and wont release or those that discovered something and release for money

    20. vaalir
      06-06-2012
      07:55 AM
      20

      i'm still amazed that devs bother to pay attention to this scene :S the last year it has been nothing but "omfg no 4.xx cwf? useless..."

      it has been a good year anyway, with some small gifts along the way, and now the last couple of weeks, has been totally insane..

      good job developers, i applaude you for your gifts even though 90% of the ps3 lurkers are ungrateful kids.

    21. VIRGIN KLM
      06-06-2012
      07:56 AM
      21

      People, I don't mean to be negative but why do you get so overhyped, you are just being publically funny you know?(don't get offended it's a joke/an attempt to shake you back to reality)
      You need to go back to a dictionary and check the difference between the words:

      1.Decryption
      2.Reverse Engineering
      3.Replication

      I doubt that most of you understood what this thread is about and you already run into conclusions and even worse you start up a fight between you that makes no sense.

      (Sorry, I know that you are laughing mods, but I just had to post that!)

    22. mirkie
      06-06-2012
      08:02 AM
      22

      The two things we need:

      1. A eboot supplier
      2. Developers which fix the incompitabilities of the running games.

      Thats tb's secret. The only thing tb does is fixing the checks made by the newer eboots.

      I got this from a guy I know from hackforums. He is in one of those teams that gets the eboots but he doesn't get his hands on it. When he gets the eboots he will pas it to me and I will release it. He said the eboots don't need to be fixed but the firmware. The eboot gets encrypted by the team.

      He hopes to share the unsigned eboots as soon as he gets his hands on it. He also told me we cab decrypt those eboots with TB keys which are in the dongle or firmware. He thinks its in the dongle but he doesn't know.

    23. okantokay
      06-06-2012
      08:10 AM
      23

      What does that mean for noobs?

    24. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      08:12 AM
      24

      Originally Posted by okantokay View Post
      What does that mean for noobs?
      Way long to go, yet. It's not an easy task. Since someone has to re-rewrite what TB done with the EBOOTS in order to work with this possible solution.

      1.Decryption
      2.Reverse Engineering
      3.Replication

      Like [MENTION=13236]VIRGIN KLM[/MENTION] stated

    25. mirkie
      06-06-2012
      08:20 AM
      25

      He just told me we have 2 choices. Hope he gets the eboots from his team members or decrypt the eboots with tb keys. The latest is a bad choice because the keys get updated once we discover them.

      Perhaps its a good option to make a donate option for suppliers. If they can prove they have them. We donate them. The proof could be a half eboot.

    26. gambaownsu
      06-06-2012
      08:24 AM
      26

      Originally Posted by mirkie View Post
      He just told me we have 2 choices. Hope he gets the eboots from his team members or decrypt the eboots with tb keys. The latest is a bad choice because the keys get updated once we discover them.

      Perhaps its a good option to make a donate option for suppliers. If they can prove they have them. We donate them. The proof could be a half eboot.
      PS3 Scene - There's definitely easy way out

      PS3 Scene - There is an easy way out! - YouTube


      :D


      Wonder if Snowy could help on the Cobra part.

    27. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      08:50 AM
      27

      Originally Posted by mirkie View Post
      He just told me we have 2 choices. Hope he gets the eboots from his team members or decrypt the eboots with tb keys. The latest is a bad choice because the keys get updated once we discover them.

      Perhaps its a good option to make a donate option for suppliers. If they can prove they have them. We donate them. The proof could be a half eboot.
      Not a bad idea tough..Let's wait and see what happens, keep us posted [MENTION=219432]mirkie[/MENTION]

    28. LilPimpT
      06-06-2012
      08:52 AM
      28

      [SPOILER=Long rant put in a spoiler so it doesn't take up an entire page]Now, i don't usually post..but i feel the need to get it out of my system. I don't really enjoy seeing news anymore. At least for the PS3 scene. 30% of it is talk, 30% is false promises, 40% is 'getting closer to cracking *insert title here*', and 100% of it is getting your hopes up and waiting for months and months. We get 'closer', but when i say closer, it's like chopping down a tree with a very very very durable toothpick. Bit by bit, the tree gets chopped down, but all we get is tiny tidbits of the tree and they become an entire newspaper. For every little splinter of the big OFW tree we're trying to fell, we get an entire newspage, thread, flame war, dongle hate (which, don't get me wrong, i'm against it too, but it -always- comes to every single thread about news. if anything, i'm against them because of the $|-|1+ they start in threads), 'does this lead to cfw?' noobs, people repeating the same old 'who says the scene is dead?' for 'e-props', people bashing other people, people bashing devs, people bashing, flaming, trolling, all from just a tiny little splinter of a tree. It's not even news once you get past the 'read more'. it's a sea of ignorance and trolls. every single friggin time. Everyone is so friggin hungry for that tree to be chopped down that even the smallest, most trivial (and sometimes big news, but not so much lately) gets thrown to the dogs (yes, i'm referring to us) when we have no idea what the hell it does for us. if you read news about something that you don't understand, but it has the title, phrase, or comment 'CLOSER TO CFW!!!!', you're going to (stupidly) get your hopes up for nothing. I understand any news is good news, but really..almost all of the news is useless to the common man, and so we just spend our time hating on everything. Iunno, i really don't know where the |=|_|(|< i was going with this rant, but really man. We need serious, genuine good news. Not about TB, not about getting closer, we need someone to step forward, say '|=|_|(|< it, here you go', and give us the keys to our destiny, or at the very least our PS3s. I'm tired of living in purgatory.[/SPOILER]

    29. hp420
      06-06-2012
      08:56 AM
      29

      epic fail....this is 100% bull****, and here's my proof!!



      why would it be spelled correctly above, but be misspelled here?? because it's a bad attempt at trolling

    30. animalovich
      06-06-2012
      09:09 AM
      30

      check out his new twit

    31. VIRGIN KLM
      06-06-2012
      09:10 AM
      31

      [MENTION=205654]hp420[/MENTION], it's just a typo the developers did, super-obviously, or even Oct0xor may have posted that image on purpose to show the entery with the typo as poc.

      Ah, people people...
      Next time you try being smart-a$$e$ please atleast do the effort to think twice.
      If you know what you're talking about, go ahead and post, if not, just skip the topic, don't you understand the consequences of your acts?

      Originally Posted by animalovich View Post
      check out his new twit
      POC & Release or never happened, aka (I hate using this word) bull****.

    32. Trivia618
      06-06-2012
      09:12 AM
      32

      ^ Saw that also but this the CheatGame Dongle, nothing to do with Cobra; True Blue; Lv2

    33. capostef
      06-06-2012
      09:12 AM
      33

      It is from Usercheat dongle

    34. hp420
      06-06-2012
      09:15 AM
      34

      Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM View Post
      [MENTION=205654]hp420[/MENTION], it's just a typo the developers did, super-obviously, or even Oct0xor may have posted that image on purpose to show the entery with the typo as poc.

      Ah, people people...
      Next time you try being smart-a$$e$ please atleast do the effort to think twice.
      If you know what you're talking about, go ahead and post, if not, just skip the topic, don't you understand the consequences of your acts?



      POC & Release or never happened, aka (I hate using this word) bull****.
      consequences??? what are you talking about??? am I going to be arrested for claiming a troll is trolling us?? probably not :P lol

      don't be so ridiculous

    35. VIRGIN KLM
      06-06-2012
      09:18 AM
      35

      Originally Posted by hp420 View Post
      consequences??? what are you talking about??? am I going to be arrested for claiming a troll is trolling us?? probably not :P lol

      don't be so ridiculous
      No but calling out names in a scene wich has a bad history of developers getting mad with that behaviour/habit is not even near to being a smart move.
      The best thing to do is ignore, not even bother making a post, aka DON'T FEED THE TROLL.
      People that are smart enough understand what is real and what's not.
      Noobs will always be noobs.

    36. deank
      06-06-2012
      09:20 AM
      36

      The cheatlist.dat screenshot is actual.

    37. Trivia618
      06-06-2012
      09:24 AM
      37

      [MENTION=205654]hp420[/MENTION] there you have it^....Before you go on calling him a troll too I suggest you do a quick google search (coz clearly you don't know sh!t)

    38. bubbleboy
      06-06-2012
      09:33 AM
      38

      who said the scene is dead and will this give s CFW 4.20 and true blue sucks and math is a typical french surrender monkey

    39. synce
      06-06-2012
      09:34 AM
      39

      I'm sure by the time PS4 is out the PS3 will be busted open. Maybe.

    40. hp420
      06-06-2012
      09:35 AM
      40

      Originally Posted by deank View Post
      The cheatlist.dat screenshot is actual.
      ok, thanks for confirmation, dean

    41. iPwnz
      06-06-2012
      09:36 AM
      41

      so seems like tb devs have to hit the road again soon

      cobra are good devs nothing wrong about them in my opinion!

    42. ElSalvatore
      06-06-2012
      09:36 AM
      42

      Why did [MENTION=205654]hp420[/MENTION] call him a troll, and why is that guy after all not trolling?

    43. Trivia618
      06-06-2012
      09:38 AM
      43

      [MENTION=207895]ElSalvatore[/MENTION] because he can spell and a Dev that can decrypt a dongle's payload can't

    44. Pockets69
      06-06-2012
      09:47 AM
      44

      well as i a posted earlier on twitter thank you oct0xor thank you flat_z and thank you naehrwert thank you "dongle breakers"

      also there seem to be some misconceptions here LOL
      Paradox are not the actual makers of trueblue paradox just release the games, they have trueblue tools, namely their make_self which allows to create the corrupted eboots that everyone uses.

      Also don't think most people want tb hacked to play tb games and pirate, no, most people want tb hacked to see them out of business, they could care less about the games...

    45. Warning
      06-06-2012
      09:54 AM
      45

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      Also don't think most people want tb hacked to play tb games and pirate, no, most people want tb hacked to see them out of business, they could care less about the games...
      "most" people think it will lead to some magical way to freely play 3.56+ games.
      "most" people who own a ps3 care about games.

    46. Trivia618
      06-06-2012
      09:55 AM
      46

      Yeah all the games are old now anyway, most have already turned (Xbox or OFW) for these games [about half a year ago]

    47. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      09:57 AM
      47

      Originally Posted by Warning View Post
      "most" people think it will lead to some magical way to freely play 3.56+ games.
      "most" people who own a ps3 care about games.
      Don't worry the dongles will be still out there in the market.
      Even if a *magic solution* appears.

    48. Pockets69
      06-06-2012
      09:57 AM
      48

      Originally Posted by Warning View Post
      "most" people think it will lead to some magical way to freely play 3.56+ games.
      "most" people who own a ps3 care about games.
      OH yeah?
      Then we enjoy crashing the party for "most" People

      i hardly believe @helsing9 i think if the dongle is completely cracked... the groups will not release more eboots at to per tb team instructions, or do you think they would sport their customers? LOL

    49. JonahUK
      06-06-2012
      10:00 AM
      49

      Originally Posted by Warning View Post
      "most" people think it will lead to some magical way to freely play 3.56+ games.
      "most" people who own a ps3 care about games.
      "most" people who own a TB are pirates
      "most" people who own a ps3 who care about games would be on OFW

    50. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      10:02 AM
      50

      Frontpage updated.

    51. Warning
      06-06-2012
      10:03 AM
      51

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      OH yeah?
      Then we enjoy crashing the party for "most" People
      I was not trying to get smart with you or anything.
      I just read every single post.
      Most people think cracking TB will lead to free games.
      It is more a large group of people that think like you.

      I'm a lazy typer. Sorry if i come across as snide

    52. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      10:11 AM
      52

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      OH yeah?
      Then we enjoy crashing the party for "most" People

      i hardly believe @helsing9 i think if the dongle is completely cracked... the groups will not release more eboots at to per tb team instructions, or do you think they would sport their customers? LOL
      Being realistic for a second here:

      1) If the dongle is 100% cracked/reversed etc TB team and others will HALT because they know that the darkness is coming and wolves don't forgive anyone on full moon nights. (just a metaphore xD).
      So they will not release NOTHING, they will wait will check everything *they got* and create another update for the dongle. (even if is useless).

      2) They never supported their costumers, neither gave them a proper feedback plus the site going down from time to time.

    53. mirkie
      06-06-2012
      10:11 AM
      53

      Originally Posted by Warning View Post
      I was not trying to get smart with you or anything.
      I just read every single post.
      Most people think cracking TB will lead to free games.
      It is more a large group of people that think like you.

      I'm a lazy typer. Sorry if i come across as snide
      Sorry troll but full decryption will lead the scene to free eboots. If the dildo gets decrypted and we have the key the decrypt the eboots then the only thing that needs to happen is to patch the checks.

      Yes, if they stop releasing eboots we are doomed. But not only us, everyone.
      Thats why we need a eboot supplier.

    54. Warning
      06-06-2012
      10:13 AM
      54

      Originally Posted by mirkie View Post
      Sorry troll but full decryption will lead the scene to free eboots. If the dildo gets decrypted and we have the key the decrypt the eboots then the only thing that needs to happen is to patch the checks.
      Why are you calling me troll ?
      You just proved my statement

      Read the discussion before trying to flame

    55. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      10:14 AM
      55

      Originally Posted by mirkie View Post
      Sorry troll but full decryption will lead the scene to free eboots. If the dildo gets decrypted and we have the key the decrypt the eboots then the only thing that needs to happen is to patch the checks.

      Yes, if they stop releasing eboots we are doomed. But not only us, everyone.
      Thats why we need a eboot supplier.
      Hope Sony keeps allowing the eboots being released...oh **** i mean TB.

    56. pSydeFX
      06-06-2012
      10:20 AM
      56

      Originally Posted by mirkie View Post
      Yes, if they stop releasing eboots we are doomed. But not only us, everyone. Thats why we need a eboot supplier.
      if paradox have the tools to release eboots then they should even after tb gets cracked. after all they are a scene group, unless they really are getting paid

    57. animalovich
      06-06-2012
      10:24 AM
      57

      Well, my point of view is,

      This is a great job and hard work, especially for people like me who knows nothing about ((DRM, Replication, Reverse Engineering, and Decryption”computer science“)) just like me speaking Chinese

      But I know one thing and its true, people love games, and people who create the TB they just took advantage on people who love games, and this is evil, and by combining evil with money makes you just like ((Sadam Hussien))

      So I see that this is a great and hard work and this brings hope to other even if it leads to nothing, just like this movie ((Jacob the Lair)) who bought hopes to all people,

    58. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      10:26 AM
      58

      Originally Posted by pSydeFX View Post
      if paradox have the tools to release eboots then they should even after tb gets cracked. after all they are a scene group, unless they really are getting paid
      Like reloaded that never recieved a buck doing what he knows to do xD
      Paradox maybe have the tools, but i doubt that they work for free for this guys.

    59. iPwnz
      06-06-2012
      10:30 AM
      59

      Originally Posted by mirkie View Post
      Sorry troll but full decryption will lead the scene to free eboots. If the dildo gets decrypted and we have the key the decrypt the eboots then the only thing that needs to happen is to patch the checks.

      Yes, if they stop releasing eboots we are doomed. But not only us, everyone.
      Thats why we need a eboot supplier.
      if this **** is cracked we will be able to understand how to make our own eboot patches

    60. Warning
      06-06-2012
      10:34 AM
      60

      Originally Posted by iPwnz View Post
      if this **** is cracked we will be able to understand how to make our own eboot patches
      I don't think it will be that simple.
      Even TB is having a hard time making
      patches for new games.

    61. VIRGIN KLM
      06-06-2012
      10:34 AM
      61

      What real sceners care is the unfragmentation of the scene and DRM dongles is the first and biggest target to hit.
      You have to understand the nature of the issue with DRM dongles to understand why it's vital for them to go away once and forever.
      (retarded)People say again and again that they are the only people who really give advantage to PS3 scene when in reallity what they do is those steps:
      1. Fragment
      2. Evacuate the scene
      3. Be the only people who are involved with the scene by blocking anybody else entering it.
      4. Cause chaos between sceners and developers which would lead into breking their plans
      5. Profit

      If DRM dongles never existed this scene would still be alive.
      I and many others could care less about a bunch of games that are not taking full advantage because of Sony blocking them to CFW/JB users.
      You would eventually be able to play those games and do much more by now if some people weren't corrupted enough to invent such thing as a DRM Dongle.

    62. ElSalvatore
      06-06-2012
      10:36 AM
      62

      Originally Posted by hellsing9 View Post
      Like reloaded that never recieved a buck doing what he knows to do xD
      Paradox maybe have the tools, but i doubt that they work for free for this guys.
      That's what I said from the beginning! They won't work for free!
      If they would have been okay with the fact that they could earn some money but they didn't want to, they would have made it for free from the beginning!

      [MENTION=13236]VIRGIN KLM[/MENTION]:
      What do you mean by

      Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM View Post
      I and many others could care less about a bunch of games that are not taking full advantage because of Sony blocking them to CFW/JB users.

    63. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      10:39 AM
      63

      Originally Posted by ElSalvatore View Post
      That's what I said from the beginning! They won't work for free!
      If they would have been okay with the fact that they could earn some money but they didn't want to, they would have made it for free from the beginning!
      Someone is feeding them...no doubt. Question is..who?.
      Response = (fill empty space)

    64. ElSalvatore
      06-06-2012
      10:47 AM
      64

      Originally Posted by hellsing9 View Post
      Someone is feeding them...no doubt. Question is..who?.
      Response = (fill empty space)
      Well, problem is that you can't do anything about it when you need a source but you don't have one.
      Paradox seems to have one, but we can't do anything about it, doesn't matter how skilled the devs are.

      Of course, those a problems of ppl who want to keep their homebrew but still want to play.
      And I know that many devs aren't interested in Games, but in their homebrew...

      But I bought my PS3 for gaming, and so did many others, and you can't blame us for wanting a possibility to play those games and keeping our homebrew!

    65. Pockets69
      06-06-2012
      10:53 AM
      65

      Originally Posted by mirkie View Post
      Sorry troll but full decryption will lead the scene to free eboots. If the dildo gets decrypted and we have the key the decrypt the eboots then the only thing that needs to happen is to patch the checks.

      Yes, if they stop releasing eboots we are doomed. But not only us, everyone.
      Thats why we need a eboot supplier.
      ALMOST right, meaning the full decryption/crack/rape of tb might not mean that we get the keys, again i am telling you only paradox and borg and all the groups releasing have the keys to sign the eboots.
      and if that happens (the cracking part) then bye bye paradox borg etc releases, and the eboot suplier idea is correct for those who care about the games, you would obviously need someone to get you either fselfed eboots so you can sign with 3.55 keys and play or fselfed eboots so you can sign with tb keys and play in your free homebrew version of tb(if those where to ever come out)

      @others that think that paradox are working for free... get a clue...

      so that you know the "scene" (the real scene the piracy scene not the ps3 scene not the xbox scene, the real scene) is all about money.

    66. yusuf3d
      06-06-2012
      10:55 AM
      66

      I dont see any point on waiting for hacks or paying to tb assclowns. If u bought a ps3 u might as well can buy the games. So stop this whining and go ofw. at least it lets u control what u wanna play and when. no psn bann fear. live free guys we own a ps3 we r not beggers! think about it

    67. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      10:56 AM
      67

      Originally Posted by ElSalvatore View Post
      Well, problem is that you can't do anything about it when you need a source but you don't have one.
      Paradox seems to have one, but we can't do anything about it, doesn't matter how skilled the devs are.

      Of course, those a problems of ppl who want to keep their homebrew but still want to play.
      And I know that many devs aren't interested in Games, but in their homebrew...

      But I bought my PS3 for gaming, and so did many others, and you can't blame us for wanting a possibility to play those games and keeping our homebrew!
      I've done the same, so im not trowing sticks and stones about homebrew/backups. The only *torn* on my chest is the damn blue nothing more, nothing less. It's like trying to erradicate a zombie horde with flashlights and dance music. xD
      Fine by me, or i could say = Perfect.

    68. Pockets69
      06-06-2012
      10:58 AM
      68

      Originally Posted by hellsing9 View Post
      It's like trying to erradicate a zombie horde with flashlights and dance music. xD

      So damn EPIC

      i want a game like that NOW!

    69. VIRGIN KLM
      06-06-2012
      11:01 AM
      69

      [MENTION=207895]ElSalvatore[/MENTION]

      I mean that I don't really care about those TB games, If we have survived so far without them it means that we have others problems to care about before caring about those games.
      If there was a magic switch that I could eliminate DRM dongles even without reverse engineer them, I would press it, they already costed so much to this scene, technically even it's existance, THIS NEEDS TO END WHATEVER COST.

      And yes, I bought my PS3 for games too, homebrew is good too, but for sure I didn't buy it for True Blue and if that's my only option, well, thank you but no because when there is one only option then it's not an option but nazism and anarchy and I'm not really keen on investing in such sick ideals at any cost, including not being able to use my PS3 as a gaming machine.

      My (and your [plural]) parents didn't give birth and raise me(us) to see me(us) give up my(our) rights that easy you see... It's sad.

    70. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      11:03 AM
      70

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      So damn EPIC

      i want a game like that NOW!
      That gave me..a crazy idea..i didn't put much tought to that. xD
      But yeah will be epic and awesome game.

    71. fenomeno0chris
      06-06-2012
      11:08 AM
      71

      Yeah finally the Ultiamte CFW will arrive! PSP, PSX, PS2 and the new PS3 games will be playable. Hopefully the PS Vita can play them all remotely.
      That would be just awesome. Keep up the great work!

      cheers fenomeno

    72. iPwnz
      06-06-2012
      11:14 AM
      72

      Originally Posted by Warning View Post
      I don't think it will be that simple.
      Even TB is having a hard time making
      patches for new games.
      no they are just lazy lameasses that feel good if lil pirate kids beg them for new eboots, they dont have to release until the preasure is high enough to reease something, remind they get paid for the dongles not the eboot patches so until the dildos sells fine and not to many are whining about new games, the can just sit back and relax watching theyre bank accounts fill up :D
      if the method is public much more people can release eboot patches and do them so naturally there will be more releases!

    73. ElSalvatore
      06-06-2012
      11:16 AM
      73

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] [MENTION=13236]VIRGIN KLM[/MENTION]
      Yeah, TB is really a pain in the ass for the whole PS3 scene. I totally agree that we'd be much further in the scene if we didn't have that Dildo!

      I don't depend on my PS3 for playing games that much anyways. I was blessed with a XBox 360 I won. :D
      It's just a pitty I can't update my PS3 to play games in the future, like The Last Of Us if I want to keep the homebrew on my sweet machine. :D

      also [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]
      That game would Rock! :D "Everyday I'm shuf-f-f-ling...DADADADADARAM.." xD

      By the way: Watch The Last Of Us, it's the most epic game on the PS3 that'll be released next year maybe!

    74. HulkWogan
      06-06-2012
      12:03 PM
      74

      Originally Posted by yusuf3d View Post
      I dont see any point on waiting for hacks or paying to tb assclowns. If u bought a ps3 u might as well can buy the games. So stop this whining and go ofw. at least it lets u control what u wanna play and when. no psn bann fear. live free guys we own a ps3 we r not beggers! think about it
      Take it to the official playstation forums pal, don't need anymore wise guys around here.

    75. bubbleboy
      06-06-2012
      12:15 PM
      75

      Anyone who thinks there is an endless stream of eboots being leaked by 'devs' from dozens of game companies worldwide is a moron. Sony would have stopped this on day 1.

      TB are decrypting the eboots.

    76. bigo93
      06-06-2012
      12:27 PM
      76

      Originally Posted by yusuf3d View Post
      I dont see any point on waiting for hacks or paying to tb assclowns. If u bought a ps3 u might as well can buy the games. So stop this whining and go ofw. at least it lets u control what u wanna play and when. no psn bann fear. live free guys we own a ps3 we r not beggers! think about it
      First of all let me remind you that you DO NOT own your PS3, by updating to the latest firmware you agreed that you in fact bought a license to use the console to play games on it.

      Also you have no control, does your ofw console have otheros? And dont even star with the PSN games for the Vita that $ony removed as they had a bug which could be exploited.

    77. euss
      06-06-2012
      12:46 PM
      77

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      So damn EPIC

      i want a game like that NOW!
      Rayman Raving Rabbids, the zombie mod

    78. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      12:51 PM
      78

      Originally Posted by euss View Post
      Rayman Raving Rabbids, the zombie mod
      Im talking something more darker and funny at the same time.
      3rd person, you with the flashlights and the zombie hordes and with the rythm of the dance music/trance/etc killing spree.
      Combo x4 if you shuffle.

    79. ElSalvatore
      06-06-2012
      12:55 PM
      80

      Originally Posted by hellsing9 View Post
      Im talking something more darker and funny at the same time.
      3rd person, you with the flashlights and the zombie hordes and with the rythm of the dance music/trance/etc killing spree.
      Combo x4 if you shuffle.
      HAHA! I lol'd so hard! xD
      But it reminded me of the video of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" xD

      In fact you could make the Zombies dance with you, and the higher your "Dance-Combo-Chain" is, the more vurneable the Zombies get.
      It would also be funny if you had a sword and would slay all the Zombies in a "Devil May Cry"-Style - but DANCING :D

    80. mcmrc1
      06-06-2012
      12:57 PM
      81

      [MENTION=207895]ElSalvatore[/MENTION] lol look the video i posted

    81. ElSalvatore
      06-06-2012
      12:58 PM
      82

      [MENTION=148367]mcmrc1[/MENTION] HAHA! Funny coincidence! xD But: I LIKE! ^^

    82. elnino_619
      06-06-2012
      01:06 PM
      83

      yeah man ****em up

    83. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      01:07 PM
      84

      Nahh the swords it's very cliche, you use the lights (kinda flashy) the red ones do 10% damage the green sticks 40% (?) and then if you don't stop shuffling you die. Because it's on a disco where the dance floor every 3 to 5 minutes rotates. With some nice physics

      xD

    84. harryoke
      06-06-2012
      01:11 PM
      85

      i've said it from the start..true blue can suck my big one..(well kinda small one)...i'll never turn to the dark side..even if i never play a new game again on my ps3...they can lick it.

    85. ElSalvatore
      06-06-2012
      01:12 PM
      86

      HAHA! [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION], you have very much fantasy! xD

    86. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      01:15 PM
      87

      Originally Posted by ElSalvatore View Post
      HAHA! [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION], you have very much fantasy! xD
      Let loose your imagination and probably you first went nuts, and second you will see and think things cooler than my concept of E3 game...shame i did not work for any company

      hahaha

      xD

    87. dablakmark8
      06-06-2012
      01:29 PM
      88

      I have been following the sony product seen since the ps1 came out.Then in 2005 the psp,Its took a year for homebrew to thrive on the psp,Even downgraders were developed and the scene was good.Geohot took a ps3,some might say he stole knowledge from devs to pursue his intentions.He paved the way forward but it did go forward.

      What i am saying is that all we can do is wait as there are people out there hard at work trying to get things out virally.I understand that some will do it for fun and others for kicks.

      I would like to leave my mark as a guy that contributed to the ps3 dev seen,its truly a dream of mine.I love homebrew and i am on my way to develop something special for the ps3.

      TIme is a factor and this is what we need to understand.There are many young kids that want all this for piracy,and its mostly these kids that complain and get dirty about things.

      LIfe is not so simply,we really have to work hard to live it and so with the scene so to all the devs out there i will donate in bringing down dongles that don't contribute.

    88. HulkWogan
      06-06-2012
      01:34 PM
      89

      Lovely story my man, now whatever the rest of you are smoking would you pass some this way. Thanks.

    89. japsander
      06-06-2012
      02:06 PM
      90

      Originally Posted by hellsing9 View Post
      Im talking something more darker and funny at the same time.
      3rd person, you with the fleshlights and the zombie hordes and with the rythm of the dance music/trance/etc killing spree.
      Combo x4 if you shuffle.
      now we are talking (fixed the typo)

    90. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      02:09 PM
      91

      Originally Posted by japsander View Post
      now we are talking (fixed the typo)
      hhahah too gory or too..well you know. xD

    91. dablakmark8
      06-06-2012
      02:09 PM
      92

      Originally Posted by HulkWogan View Post
      Lovely story my man, now whatever the rest of you are smoking would you pass some this way. Thanks.
      pass it on already

    92. screwhead
      06-06-2012
      02:15 PM
      93

      __________

    93. chuchutranny
      06-06-2012
      02:49 PM
      94

      Originally Posted by screwhead View Post
      __________
      Yes, screwhead, we all know you like long, straight 'lines'. But, what does that have to do with the topic?

    94. jennys
      06-06-2012
      03:19 PM
      95

      Okay, so the pirates (Trueblue) steal code from other authors (some of them pirates also) to help make their product and the author of this news post is stealing the stolen code to figure out how the TB works (stealing as he doesn't have permission or the rights to disassemble and use the code. I know, hackers will hack - most don't care about licenses, rights or have morals).

      The only difference I see here is that the second person pirating the TB code isn't or hasn't mentioned if the end result will require a blank Dongle (like the original days) or if it will be totally free software (if it requires a Dongle you'll have to make your own or buy one, but hopefully it will work with the PSP!!!). Point being the only difference is the fact that TB costs money (trust me, I don't want one). Both parties are stealing from someone.

      Also from what I understand the TB code isn't 100% stolen and if a Dongle is required for a free solution then it does indeed require hardware therefore TrueBlue also designed the hardware required which is not an easy task. The recent discovery of the Virtual Machine leads me to believe some sort of delivery device (dongle) will be required for any free solution, but I could be totally wrong about that.

      If this does indeed lead to a free solution I believe that proper credit to the TrueBlue Team for creating the code they actually created (and Dongle, if necessary) is required. I also think that TrueBlue should give credit to any code used, but if we do not give credit for stealing from them regardless if what we're stealing is already stolen then we are no better then them in that regard. Also remember that using free code in your own work and charging for it is allowed depending on the license it's been published under; if any and some license do not require to even mention the author of the code being used).

      So yes, I believe that people should give proper credit for TrueBlue doing what no one else could at the time - that is if people are man enough to admit their pirating code from pirates to use more then likely pirated games as the only reason for the TB is to play backups (which are illegal in most countries) and pirated games (the pirating part could lead to a whole other debate so I will leave it at that).

      ---

      I'm new here so please don't throw my question out of the window because of that fact or the fact I have really no posts as doing so makes no sense as someone new is capable of having an opinion and should be able to share it without being judged for just being new. That's just immature.

      Thanks for listening (reading).

      Jennys!

    95. 8E068EDFA0C8DEA3
      06-06-2012
      04:13 PM
      96

      sounds like good news. keep up the good work

    96. ElSalvatore
      06-06-2012
      04:36 PM
      97

      Originally Posted by jennys View Post
      [SPOILER]Okay, so the pirates (Trueblue) steal code from other authors (some of them pirates also) to help make their product and the author of this news post is stealing the stolen code to figure out how the TB works (stealing as he doesn't have permission or the rights to disassemble and use the code. I know, hackers will hack - most don't care about licenses, rights or have morals).

      The only difference I see here is that the second person pirating the TB code isn't or hasn't mentioned if the end result will require a blank Dongle (like the original days) or if it will be totally free software (if it requires a Dongle you'll have to make your own or buy one, but hopefully it will work with the PSP!!!). Point being the only difference is the fact that TB costs money (trust me, I don't want one). Both parties are stealing from someone.

      Also from what I understand the TB code isn't 100% stolen and if a Dongle is required for a free solution then it does indeed require hardware therefore TrueBlue also designed the hardware required which is not an easy task. The recent discovery of the Virtual Machine leads me to believe some sort of delivery device (dongle) will be required for any free solution, but I could be totally wrong about that.

      If this does indeed lead to a free solution I believe that proper credit to the TrueBlue Team for creating the code they actually created (and Dongle, if necessary) is required. I also think that TrueBlue should give credit to any code used, but if we do not give credit for stealing from them regardless if what we're stealing is already stolen then we are no better then them in that regard. Also remember that using free code in your own work and charging for it is allowed depending on the license it's been published under; if any and some license do not require to even mention the author of the code being used).

      So yes, I believe that people should give proper credit for TrueBlue doing what no one else could at the time - that is if people are man enough to admit their pirating code from pirates to use more then likely pirated games as the only reason for the TB is to play backups (which are illegal in most countries) and pirated games (the pirating part could lead to a whole other debate so I will leave it at that).

      ---

      I'm new here so please don't throw my question out of the window because of that fact or the fact I have really no posts as doing so makes no sense as someone new is capable of having an opinion and should be able to share it without being judged for just being new. That's just immature.

      Thanks for listening (reading).

      Jennys![/SPOILER]



      NO! I know I once said they deserve a tiny little bit of respect. But in fact they deserve SOME KICKS IN THEIR ASSES!!!

    97. theepan
      06-06-2012
      05:06 PM
      98

      honestly lmao dont really think this is going to amount to much even if it does i think it will take months and thats if people get lucky . but **** this **** .why do i even care gonna go play dragons dogma eboot just got released let me know when this pans out for you guyz is it a step maybe but dont hold your breaths because eureka it is not

    98. JOshISPoser
      06-06-2012
      05:07 PM
      99

      these tb threads can get so long and yet discuss so little beyond how ignorant pro-tb users are

    99. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      05:08 PM
      100

      Originally Posted by theepan View Post
      honestly lmao dont really think this is going to amount to much even if it does i think it will take months and thats if people get lucky . but **** this **** .why do i even care gonna go play dragons dogma eboot just got released let me know when this pans out for you guyz is it a step maybe but dont hold your breaths because eureka it is not


      Sorry [MENTION=207895]ElSalvatore[/MENTION] i will give you back in 10 minutes again the image xD

    100. DEFAULTDNB
      06-06-2012
      05:22 PM
      101

      Sounds like excellent progress, can't wait for something to come of this

    101. 3esah
      06-06-2012
      05:41 PM
      102

      So after reading the thread and the comments
      I don't know if TB is going to be cracked
      I don't support TB and i never will
      But I need an answer if it's going to be cracked or not
      My small brother keeps annoying me everyday
      he wants to play the new Naruto game
      and the homebrew in his ps3 is needed
      So can anyone at least tell me the rate of it getting cracked like give me 50% =P
      I don't wanna buy it but the wait was long or still is
      I don't want to spend money on something that might be useless and Thanks.

    102. japsander
      06-06-2012
      05:47 PM
      103

      Originally Posted by 3esah View Post
      So after reading the thread and the comments
      I don't know if TB is going to be cracked
      I don't support TB and i never will
      But I need an answer if it's going to be cracked or not
      My small brother keeps annoying me everyday
      he wants to play the new Naruto game
      and the homebrew in his ps3 is needed
      So can anyone at least tell me the rate of it getting cracked like give me 50% =P
      I don't wanna buy it but the wait was long or still is
      I don't want to spend money on something that might be useless and Thanks.
      we cant tell the future.
      it is being worked on, that is all anyone can say

    103. ElSalvatore
      06-06-2012
      05:48 PM
      104

      HAHA [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] !!!

      I think I'll use this meme a bit more often in this forum! :D

    104. Adamsville
      06-06-2012
      05:48 PM
      105

      theres no Naruto TB patch anyway, well theres one for the Japanese version

    105. screwhead
      06-06-2012
      05:50 PM
      106

      [QUOTE=jennys;375197]

      I believe that people should give proper credit for TrueBlue doing what no one else could at the time - that is if people are man enough to admit their pirating code from pirates to use more then likely pirated games as the only reason for the TB is to play backups (which are illegal in most countries) and pirated games (the pirating part could lead to a whole other debate so I will leave it at that).

    106. derako
      06-06-2012
      05:54 PM
      107

      Originally Posted by 3esah View Post
      So after reading the thread and the comments
      I don't know if TB is going to be cracked
      I don't support TB and i never will
      But I need an answer if it's going to be cracked or not
      My small brother keeps annoying me everyday
      he wants to play the new Naruto game
      and the homebrew in his ps3 is needed
      So can anyone at least tell me the rate of it getting cracked like give me 50% =P
      I don't wanna buy it but the wait was long or still is
      I don't want to spend money on something that might be useless and Thanks.
      yeah, " small brother ".

    107. 3esah
      06-06-2012
      05:55 PM
      108

      Originally Posted by Adamsville View Post
      theres no Naruto TB patch anyway, well theres one for the Japanese version

      Japanese or English small brother is small so he cant read any of them so it doesn't matter :P

      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by derako View Post
      yeah, " small brother ".

      Want me to post a video of him playing to believe?
      While me dancing so you know it's me?
      People and their comments really amazes me?


      If you have something good to say then lemme read or hear.
      If not then just be silent its the best thing
      If your words are silver then your silence is gold...

    108. Adamsville
      06-06-2012
      06:00 PM
      109

      I see... Id go ahead and buy TB for the little sh*thead then. I wanna play some Naruto my damn self, I know he'd enjoy it.

    109. bigo93
      06-06-2012
      06:08 PM
      110

      [QUOTE=screwhead;375260]

      Originally Posted by jennys View Post

      I believe that people should give proper credit for TrueBlue doing what no one else could at the time - that is if people are man enough to admit their pirating code from pirates to use more then likely pirated games as the only reason for the TB is to play backups (which are illegal in most countries) and pirated games (the pirating part could lead to a whole other debate so I will leave it at that).
      1) Where applicable, people can use legal backup of their legally bought games. As we all know hdd load times are faster than br load times. That as well saving time swapping discs.

      2) If you are a real pirate you shouldnt be paying another pirate to pirate :P

      3) We dont know if whatever exploit TB are using could help other devs. This is point most of us are making, could their exploit lead other devs to create better homebrew?

      4) So you could give them credit to doing the last bit of the work, but then you cannot forget that they have used other devs' work to make their dongle and not paid them a penny.

    110. derako
      06-06-2012
      06:08 PM
      111

      Originally Posted by 3esah View Post

      Japanese or English small brother is small so he cant any of them so doesn't matter :P

      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************


      Want me to post a video of him playing to believe?
      While me dancing so you know it's me?
      People and their comments really amazes me?


      If you have something good to say then lemme read or hear.
      If not then just be silent its the best thing
      If your words are silver then your silence is gold...
      pff man you're quite paranoic. . seems its very hard to establish a difference between an insult or a harmful comment and a funny and innocent one . .

      Cheers mate, really don't care if it is you or your brother the one who plays the game, it was a simple joke. Relax, no one's gonna judge you here (not me at least)

    111. JOshISPoser
      06-06-2012
      06:11 PM
      112

      maybe get into java and try to make a blu-ray movie with the java application that loads whatever homebrew you want, then update to ofw and play naruto.

    112. screwhead
      06-06-2012
      06:15 PM
      113

      give proper credit

    113. 3esah
      06-06-2012
      06:17 PM
      114

      Originally Posted by Adamsville View Post
      I see... Id go ahead and buy TB for the little sh*thead then. I wanna play some Naruto my damn self, I know he'd enjoy it.

      LooL I'll do that then
      Thanks, you helped a lot and loved your comment


      Originally Posted by derako View Post
      pff man you're quite paranoic. . seems its very hard to establish a difference between an insult or a harmful comment and a funny and innocent one . .

      Cheers mate, really don't care if it is you or your brother the one who plays the game, it was a simple joke. Relax, no one's gonna judge you here (not me at least)

      Sorry*Relaxes*
      Now we are all good

    114. Almeidinha
      06-06-2012
      06:27 PM
      115

      Good work Oct0xor!!!
      You deserve the credit for it !
      Now people, work me some magic and make my 3.55 cfw come alive again...to hear me say like in the movie Frankenstein: "It's alive...it's ALIVE!"

      I say again, good work

    115. jennys
      06-06-2012
      06:55 PM
      116

      Originally Posted by bigo93 View Post
      1) Where applicable, people can use legal backup of their legally bought games. As we all know hdd load times are faster than br load times. That as well saving time swapping discs.
      Rarely any countries allow legal backups. I know HDD load times are great compared to BD-ROM, but the majority of English speaking forum users reside in countries where backups are now illegal and we all know that everyone doesn't just use the ability to boot copied games with their own backups.

      Originally Posted by bigo93 View Post
      2) If you are a real pirate you shouldnt be paying another pirate to pirate :P
      Well, it's been that way since the Atari with flashcards, NES/SNES/GEN with backup units, GB/GBC/GBA/NDS with flashcards and SATURN/PS1/PS2/XBOX1 modchips. Trust me the way these people operate are on par with the TrueBlue Team regarding theft of code and use of other peoples work for monetary gain plus a lot of those products I mentioned contain DRM.

      This is why I don't understand why people are peeling bananas over the TB. It's more or less the same old thing.

      Originally Posted by bigo93 View Post
      3) We dont know if whatever exploit TB are using could help other devs. This is point most of us are making, could their exploit lead other devs to create better homebrew?
      The exploit allows 3.6+ eboots to function on the 3.55 firmware thus the logical effect of discovering how the TB works is allowing homebrew and games to run on 3.6+ firmwares.

      Originally Posted by bigo93 View Post
      4) So you could give them credit to doing the last bit of the work, but then you cannot forget that they have used other devs work to make their dongle and not paid them a penny.
      Do you know what devs code they used or stole? Do you know if the devs wanted money for the code when they published it or what license they published it under? Also, we're talking about hardware and software that allows pirated material to be run so did you actually think that morality would fit into the creation and distribution of their product? It sure hasn't in the past with the products I've mentioned.

      I believe they probably used whatever was necessary to create their illegal product, but you can't slam them for using other peoples work when you have no idea who's work they used. Everyone thinks there's some big conspiracy, but the people who claim there is have no proof what-so-ever about the conspiracy other then a handful of posts by people who call themselves developers, but don't develop anything, but forum posts full of speculation on how the TB works. This is why this advancement in decrypting their code is good as it will finally shine a light on what is really going on. As for the conspiracy all modchips, flashcards, copiers ,etc .... are full of lying, cheating, money hungry pirates and I think the person who broke into a PS2 modchip coders house and stole his stuff by far passes Trueblue using some code that they may or may not had permission to use.

    116. hellsing9
      06-06-2012
      07:22 PM
      117

      Originally Posted by jennys View Post
      Rarely any countries allow legal backups. I know HDD load times are great compared to BD-ROM, but the majority of English speaking forum users reside in countries where backups are now illegal and we all know that everyone doesn't just use the ability to boot copied games with their own backups.
      Please [MENTION=230581]jennys[/MENTION] use more syntax or get to the point quickly or use [spoiler ][/spoiler] So we can all read better what you got to say.

    117. jennys
      06-06-2012
      08:00 PM
      118

      Originally Posted by hellsing9 View Post
      Please [MENTION=230581]jennys[/MENTION] use more syntax or get to the point quickly or use [spoiler ][/spoiler] So we can all read better what you got to say.
      I am sorry, but I was not aware that forum posts had length and grammar limits or that I would be told how to write and if I were to cite an example I would cite your posts and you have to agree you are not that great with English yourself.

      I see nothing wrong with writing long winded sentences and paragraphs and I'm sorry, but I'm not going to hide my posts or cut out anything to please you unless you agree to not write something that takes up 5 pages of screen on the front page. How does it feel to be asked to do the same as you ask?

      What's next enforcing spelling rules?

      Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, but I think what you asked is unheard of on any forum. I'm going to type what I want to type and I did read the forum rules - there's nothing about how short or long a post can be. I mean, who are you to tell me what I can or cannot write? Again, I'm not trying to be rude.

    118. Pockets69
      06-06-2012
      08:04 PM
      119

      OMG here i go...

      Rarely any countries allow legal backups. I know HDD load times are great compared to BD-ROM, but the majority of English speaking forum users reside in countries where backups are now illegal and we all know that everyone doesn't just use the ability to boot copied games with their own backups.
      WRONG! most countries allow, don't confuse laws with user agreements...

      Well, it's been that way since the Atari with flashcards, NES/SNES/GEN with backup units, GB/GBC/GBA/NDS with flashcards and SATURN/PS1/PS2/XBOX1 modchips. Trust me the way these people operate are on par with the TrueBlue Team regarding theft of code and use of other peoples work for monetary gain plus a lot of those products I mentioned contain DRM.

      This is why I don't understand why people are peeling bananas over the TB. It's more or less the same old thing.
      WRONG AGAIN! you do realize that all those flashcards and modchips ARE REQUIRED to allow you to play the backups you legally own.
      Whereas True blue STOLE CODE from ope source tools/ STOLE CODE FROM SONY to CHARGE MONEY FOR IT! better yet this all could be achieved with a cfw, but they got greedy and decided to ask money for it, and you all fell for it like idiots...
      True blue is not required to play those newer games!

      The exploit allows 3.6+ eboots to function on the 3.55 firmware thus the logical effect of discovering how the TB works is allowing homebrew and games to run on 3.6+ firmwares.
      WRONG AGAIN OMG???!!! discovering how tb works will never let games and homebrew work on 3.6+ firmware, why do you think tb runs on 3.55... MAYBE because they can't run it on 3.6+ THEREFOR no games or homebrew on 3.6+ firmware.

      Do you know what devs code they used or stole? Do you know if the devs wanted money for the code when they published it or what license they published it under? Also, we're talking about hardware and software that allows pirated material to be run so did you actually think that morality would fit into the creation and distribution of their product? It sure hasn't in the past with the products I've mentioned.

      I believe they probably used whatever was necessary to create their illegal product, but you can't slam them for using other peoples work when you have no idea who's work they used. Everyone thinks there's some big conspiracy, but the people who claim there is have no proof what-so-ever about the conspiracy other then a handful of posts by people who call themselves developers, but don't develop anything, but forum posts full of speculation on how the TB works. This is why this advancement in decrypting their code is good as it will finally shine a light on what is really going on. As for the conspiracy all modchips, flashcards, copiers ,etc .... are full of lying, cheating, money hungry pirates and I think the person who broke into a PS2 modchip coders house and stole his stuff by far passes Trueblue using some code that they may or may not had permission to use.
      In fact i do, and well its not hard to guess is it.
      First stolen code from sony computer entertainment, or how do you think they have eboots???
      the rest of the code is under some open source licenses which makes it illegal not to share! mostly stuff that has to do with the hypervisor bible and other stuff that i won't go into full detaill... all that is stolen...

      I suggest you to read cause you landed here and in two posts you are already making a bit of a fool of yourself, go read, and you will learn.

    119. Almeidinha
      06-06-2012
      09:40 PM
      120

      Octo ‏[MENTION=21668]oct[/MENTION]0xor
      You really can call me "DongleBreaker" now Thanks to [MENTION=49907]FLA[/MENTION]t_z who was with me all along.

      (from octox0r's twitter)

      I guess we're in business!!! :D

    120. kenzya
      06-07-2012
      12:11 AM
      121

      It's exciting news but anyone jumping to conclusions is silly.

    121. apollo18
      06-07-2012
      12:13 AM
      122

      Another History Rewind by Octoxar i Love it work

    122. tjhooker73
      06-07-2012
      12:18 AM
      123

      Originally Posted by ocam View Post
      who said something about refund?

      some quiet devs will now start to post **** on twitter and forums how they can help and how they found **** too. I bet that we will see math again when this **** is cracked
      We will never see math again, his rep was torn apart when everyone found out he was lying to KaKaRoToKS. No one will ever trust him again, that egotistic ****-bag

    123. jennys
      06-07-2012
      12:53 AM
      124

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      WRONG! most countries allow, don't confuse laws with user agreements...
      I'm not, but China, Hong Kong, most of the EU, the USA and the majority of English speaking countries (the larger importers) have made it illegal to duplicate games for any reason and has nothing to do with the EULA's (which totally suck and have no regard to most applicable personal rights). Canada seems to only really big exception.
      [Spoiler]
      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      WRONG AGAIN! you do realize that all those flashcards and modchips ARE REQUIRED to allow you to play the backups you legally own.
      Whereas True blue STOLE CODE from ope source tools/ STOLE CODE FROM SONY to CHARGE MONEY FOR IT! better yet this all could be achieved with a cfw, but they got greedy and decided to ask money for it, and you all fell for it like idiots...
      True blue is not required to play those newer games!
      The exact purpose of each device I listed differs per device, the console design for and it's user. The DRM Dongles fit closely into these categories and often these products incorporate code from the manufacturer of the video game console as it's used to bypass it's protection.

      Also, you are assuming that they stole Sony code or open source code as you do not know what the code contains. I've been reading since day 1 and so far this hacker in this article is the only one to decipher the code and hopefully the result will be knowing what exactly is used.

      There's also nothing wrong using open source or free code in your product if you aren't breaking any licenses and lastly there is no proof as of yet if the Dongle is actually required to boot the 3.6+ eboots or if it's just a giant DRM stick. It could be, but until proven otherwise I am not going to jump to conclusions.

      I've read and read and read, but there's not a single thing that I've come across that can prove they stole anything (I however believe they probably did as so do all of the backup units, flashcards and modchips).

      Remember the GBA NEOFLASH? You had to use ROMS in their own format (DRM) that they released on the NET. Ring a bell? I could go on about tons of DRM related backup/modchips/flashcards, but I've been warned to be more concise.

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      WRONG AGAIN OMG???!!! discovering how tb works will never let games and homebrew work on 3.6+ firmware, why do you think tb runs on 3.55... MAYBE because they can't run it on 3.6+ THEREFOR no games or homebrew on 3.6+ firmware.
      Aye, you're right. It should allow for 3.6+ content to be run on 3.55 machines. I was wrong.

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      In fact i do, and well its not hard to guess is it.
      First stolen code from sony computer entertainment, or how do you think they have eboots??
      There are many scenarios/guesswork in how they crack the eboots and stealing them from Sony is one of the many. No proof has been shown in any case.

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      the rest of the code is under some open source licenses which makes it illegal not to share! mostly stuff that has to do with the hypervisor bible and other stuff that i won't go into full detaill... all that is stolen...
      What code? What exactly did they use?

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      I suggest you to read cause you landed here and in two posts you are already making a bit of a fool of yourself, go read, and you will learn.
      I read a lot and thanks for reply the kind comments.[/spoiler]

    124. doc81
      06-07-2012
      01:01 AM
      125

      Hmmm thanks to all the devs for making even a small CFW possible.
      it is starting again, rebug came with PSN, now this....what is next? 360 & Wii iso's on PS3, lol hehehe
      great work guys, i wish i could understand code language, but i leave that 2 the devs.

      2 Thumbs up!!!

      Peace out

    125. hasterd
      06-07-2012
      02:55 AM
      126

      I don't understand why you guys are so hyped up. It's cool there's a step forward in the scene, well what's published so far. Sooner or later the TB device will be cracked and we can decrypt the TB eboots.

      What we still forget is, that we need a supplier, who can supply us debug eboots. I don't think that the guy(s) who's('re) now supplying PARADOX, BORG and EHRGEIZ will continue, once we know the inner working of the device.

      Another thing is that we only credit oct0xor, which is good. But there are more people behind the work, which he stated. Like flat_z, who was with him since the beginning, Crashserious and naehrwert who probably joined the group recently. There are probably more people, but they want to remain anonymous I guess.

      Anyways good news for TB owners, yesterday
      - Game_of_Thrones_EBOOT_PATCH_TB_PS3-EHRGEIZ
      - Tom_Clancys_Ghost_Recon_Future_Soldier_EBOOT_PATCH_TB_PS3-EHRGEIZ
      - Dragons_Dogma_EBOOT_PATCH_TB_PS3-BORG
      - SBK_Generations_EBOOT_PATCH_TB_PS3-BORG
      The day after
      - Major League Baseball 2K12 EBOOT PATCH TB PS3-EHRGEIZ

    126. hellsing9
      06-07-2012
      03:25 AM
      127

      Originally Posted by jennys View Post
      I am sorry, but I was not aware that forum posts had length and grammar limits or that I would be told how to write and if I were to cite an example I would cite your posts and you have to agree you are not that great with English yourself.

      I see nothing wrong with writing long winded sentences and paragraphs and I'm sorry, but I'm not going to hide my posts or cut out anything to please you unless you agree to not write something that takes up 5 pages of screen on the front page. How does it feel to be asked to do the same as you ask?

      What's next enforcing spelling rules?

      Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, but I think what you asked is unheard of on any forum. I'm going to type what I want to type and I did read the forum rules - there's nothing about how short or long a post can be. I mean, who are you to tell me what I can or cannot write? Again, I'm not trying to be rude.
      Are you kidding me? im not *playing the teacher* here im being the MODERATOR (sounds any bells?) It's not ABOUT the lengh of your messages. It's about keeping things in order if your PLAN is WRITE in good grammar but to the users including me, seeing sooooo long texts we use CODE brackets or spoiler brackets.
      When we know we will write some *serious text* even with a *bad grammar* In order to not turn this whole thread a mess = we use spoiler or code brackets. (keep that in mind)

    127. DrWho198
      06-07-2012
      03:38 AM
      128

      Originally Posted by ElSalvatore View Post
      HELL YEAH! THE SCENE IS ALIVE AGAIN! IN YOUR FACE TB AND COBRA! F*CK YOU B*TCHES
      Funny how people associate the ability of free piracy with the scene being alive.
      If you think the scene is dead now then it will stay dead until more devs feel appreciated and start to make HB for the PS3. But if people keep shouting hooray for every Piracy breakthrough and throw tomatoes for entertaining HB and tools then the scene will stay dead for a long time.

      (if you still feel like reading my contribution... then read on..)

      I'm not saying I'm against enabling games on our hacked devices again, and I'm not even saying that I'm completely against piracy. I think you should decide that for yourself. But I do say that every tool and HB game released should be equally cheered. This breakthrough is a wonderful one but it doesn't mean the scene is saved.

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]:
      Not to get myself mixed into a fight or anything, but I think neither you or jennys are of bad spirit here. I think he jennys only tries to make his/her point and doesn't know how to make it shorter then how he/she does. If so than I could understand him/her making longer posts. Since this is a discussion board I don't see how this would be wrong. But maybe this discussion should be taken to a new thread? just my 2 cents, as I don't want people to get into a fight when both parties are of good will.

    128. hellsing9
      06-07-2012
      03:59 AM
      129

      [MENTION=102455]DrWho198[/MENTION]
      I have no right to tell the other what to write or not. I don't censor words, the only thing im asking a little order and the user attacked because /me don't having good grammar (i can handle with that since it's my third language english) In any words that i directed towards jennys was not in disrespect manner.
      I have to keep some sections *clean* from time to time that's all the same i have to do with user who posts code without code brackets. (i have to edit, ect).

      Fine by me.

    129. Pockets69
      06-07-2012
      04:06 AM
      130

      Originally Posted by jennys View Post
      I'm not, but China, Hong Kong, most of the EU, the USA and the majority of English speaking countries (the larger importers) have made it illegal to duplicate games for any reason and has nothing to do with the EULA's (which totally suck and have no regard to most applicable personal rights). Canada seems to only really big exception.
      [SPOILER]
      The exact purpose of each device I listed differs per device, the console design for and it's user. The DRM Dongles fit closely into these categories and often these products incorporate code from the manufacturer of the video game console as it's used to bypass it's protection.

      Also, you are assuming that they stole Sony code or open source code as you do not know what the code contains. I've been reading since day 1 and so far this hacker in this article is the only one to decipher the code and hopefully the result will be knowing what exactly is used.

      There's also nothing wrong using open source or free code in your product if you aren't breaking any licenses and lastly there is no proof as of yet if the Dongle is actually required to boot the 3.6+ eboots or if it's just a giant DRM stick. It could be, but until proven otherwise I am not going to jump to conclusions.

      I've read and read and read, but there's not a single thing that I've come across that can prove they stole anything (I however believe they probably did as so do all of the backup units, flashcards and modchips).

      Remember the GBA NEOFLASH? You had to use ROMS in their own format (DRM) that they released on the NET. Ring a bell? I could go on about tons of DRM related backup/modchips/flashcards, but I've been warned to be more concise.

      Aye, you're right. It should allow for 3.6+ content to be run on 3.55 machines. I was wrong.

      There are many scenarios/guesswork in how they crack the eboots and stealing them from Sony is one of the many. No proof has been shown in any case.

      What code? What exactly did they use?

      I read a lot and thanks for reply the kind comments.[/SPOILER]
      If you don't want to learn fine by me look like an idiot all you want, i have expalined to you how you are wrong you don't care fine.

      ill reply again to your questions, I KNOW FOR A FACT that methods from grafs chokolo work is being USED, or do you think they went to lenghts to code their own ****? i don't know if you can code or not, but if you do, you should know that programmers do not like to reinvent the wheel over and over again, they use code already done, want a fine example? Mathieulh metldr dumper uses the code from the spp verifier direct from GRAF_CHOKOLO all credit is given on the source code.

      All the products you listed on back those Genesis cards sega saturn stuff modchips etc they were not DRM stuff! most of it used open source code, and allowed to flash open source code to it, your point is moot.
      I cant tell you about the NDS stuff, that i don't know it might as well have DRM in it, stupid are those that fall for that ****...

      You are wrong reagrding backups, you can backup your media, don't let everyone tell you otherwise, IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO BACKUP YOUR MEDIA

      Dongle is not required! they just made it to be required -.-

      you seem to be quite an intelligent guy, but you seem to not care if you are right or wrong, that is really strange for an intelligent guy.

    130. DrWho198
      06-07-2012
      04:23 AM
      131

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      you seem to be quite an intelligent guy, but you seem to not care if you are right or wrong, that is really strange for an intelligent guy.
      Right or wrong in a discussion depends on what side you are on. That's the biggest problem in discussions and even leads to war between countries and ethnic groups. Respecting each others opinion even if you don't understand or agree with it is mandatory for a good conversation. (geez... I'm starting to sound intellectual... I need a beer)


      [MENTION=129487]all[/MENTION]:
      I would suggest to remove unneeded text from quotes or remove the quote completely when you reply to someone, If you really want to know what they wrote exactly then you can go back and read. This clutters the thread.

    131. hellsing9
      06-07-2012
      05:01 AM
      132

      [MENTION=129487]all[/MENTION]:
      I would suggest to remove unneeded text from quotes or remove the quote completely when you reply to someone, If you really want to know what they wrote exactly then you can go back and read. This clutters the thread.
      NOW you understand [MENTION=102455]DrWho198[/MENTION] the point i made, every single quote on *large* posts turn the whole thread into a mess.

      [MENTION=7151]Pockets69[/MENTION] please use (with Jennys) the spoiler brackets.

    132. WL Dragon
      06-07-2012
      05:22 AM
      133

      can anyone give me eboot fix 3.55 for earth defense

    133. hellsing9
      06-07-2012
      05:29 AM
      134

      Originally Posted by WL Dragon View Post
      can anyone give me eboot fix 3.55 for earth defense
      13. No asking/complaining of CFW/keys in news threads/dev releases - Do not ask for 3.X keys or 3.X custom firmware on news posts, or PS3 homebrew releases where it has nothing to do with keys/CFW. All whining related to CFW/Keys requests should be contained here. 3 infractions and then its a ban on the forums. Repeat offenders will be permanently banned.
      Read the rules = click

    134. DEFAULTDNB
      06-07-2012
      05:38 AM
      135

      Would be excellent to see a POC or something visual, come from this soon.

      Definitely not calling this fake, but seeing is believing.

    135. penguenish
      06-07-2012
      05:53 AM
      136

      So what happens now?

    136. hellsing9
      06-07-2012
      05:56 AM
      137

      Originally Posted by penguenish View Post
      So what happens now?
      We wait.

    137. penguenish
      06-07-2012
      05:58 AM
      138

      Originally Posted by hellsing9 View Post
      We wait.
      Oh, I think I can wait some more.

    138. rorymullan
      06-07-2012
      06:12 AM
      139

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      If you don't want to learn fine by me look like an idiot all you want, i have expalined to you how you are wrong you don't care fine.

      ill reply again to your questions, I KNOW FOR A FACT that methods from grafs chokolo work is being USED, or do you think they went to lenghts to code their own ****? i don't know if you can code or not, but if you do, you should know that programmers do not like to reinvent the wheel over and over again, they use code already done, want a fine example? Mathieulh metldr dumper uses the code from the spp verifier direct from GRAF_CHOKOLO all credit is given on the source code.

      All the products you listed on back those Genesis cards sega saturn stuff modchips etc they were not DRM stuff! most of it used open source code, and allowed to flash open source code to it, your point is moot.
      I cant tell you about the NDS stuff, that i don't know it might as well have DRM in it, stupid are those that fall for that ****...

      You are wrong reagrding backups, you can backup your media, don't let everyone tell you otherwise, IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO BACKUP YOUR MEDIA

      Dongle is not required! they just made it to be required -.-

      you seem to be quite an intelligent guy, but you seem to not care if you are right or wrong, that is really strange for an intelligent guy.
      If you dont mind me asking how do you know this? What work of Grafs do you know to being used, his work on the HV? Did Graf do any work on 3.56+?

    139. DEFAULTDNB
      06-07-2012
      07:07 AM
      140

      It stands to reason that Graf's work would be the basis for TB

    140. ElSalvatore
      06-07-2012
      07:13 AM
      141

      Originally Posted by DrWho198 View Post
      [SPOILER]Funny how people associate the ability of free piracy with the scene being alive.
      If you think the scene is dead now then it will stay dead until more devs feel appreciated and start to make HB for the PS3. But if people keep shouting hooray for every Piracy breakthrough and throw tomatoes for entertaining HB and tools then the scene will stay dead for a long time.[/SPOILER]
      Funny how people like you associate the TB being "unlocked" (or call it what you want) with everybody waiting for pirating games.
      If you want to complain about ppl downloading games please take your discussion somewhere else, because this is the wrong place.

      IF YOU WANT TO READ ON - OPEN THE SPOILER

      [SPOILER]Some of us still hope for some progress and more possibilities for HB by unlocking the TB. I'm sorry for you thinking that this will lead us only to piracy.

      The scene is alive again because some progress is being made. The scene was dead - not because devs made HB that only a few needed.
      The scene was dead because we were stuck on a FW that would not allow us neither PSN nor playing the newest NOT PIRATED games while keeping your HB!

      I dunno how much money YOU have, but I can't afford a second PS3 or a E3 or whatever there is (also because I have no idea of soldering and stuff).

      I just want to say that the scene is not alive again because piracy is possible again - just because TB enables only piracy in your opinion. If I want to play a game, I buy it!
      NO! The scene is alive again because TB - the virus that kept us from progress, that stole code from everybody (Sony, other devs) and then charged money for it - is about to get some KICKS in their arses!
      And with the things we discover, there might be new things that could be usefull for devs.
      I (as I already said) am just waiting for a way to finally play new games again while keeping my HB![/SPOILER]

      So stop complaining "ppl only want piracy!"!

    141. DEFAULTDNB
      06-07-2012
      07:24 AM
      142

      This isn't ultimately about piracy, the core of this is about ridding the scene of unnecessary TB drm.

      I for one am more looking forward to PS364 (which is confirmed still in development!) than playing new games for free.

    142. ElSalvatore
      06-07-2012
      07:33 AM
      143

      Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB View Post
      This isn't ultimately about piracy, the core of this is about ridding the scene of unnecessary TB drm.

      I for one am more looking forward to PS364 (which is confirmed still in development!) than playing new games for free.
      That's what I'm walking about! I just want a possibility to play my legaly bought games on my 3.55CFW while still keeping my HB.

      BTW, what is this PS364 for? ^^
      €dit: Okay, looked it up. :D YAYH! Would be fun! <3

    143. jennys
      06-07-2012
      09:45 AM
      145

      Originally Posted by hellsing9 View Post
      Are you kidding me? im not *playing the teacher* here im being the MODERATOR (sounds any bells?) It's not ABOUT the lengh of your messages. It's about keeping things in order if your PLAN is WRITE in good grammar but to the users including me, seeing sooooo long texts we use CODE brackets or spoiler brackets.
      When we know we will write some *serious text* even with a *bad grammar* In order to not turn this whole thread a mess = we use spoiler or code brackets. (keep that in mind)
      Okay, a new moderator and a new rule. I hope you're fair and balanced and edit others posts and put their words in brackets for people and search engines (hits) to not see. It would also be courteous to add this new rule to the official rule list.

    144. hellsing9
      06-07-2012
      09:55 AM
      146

      Originally Posted by jennys View Post
      Okay, a new moderator and a new rule. I hope you're fair and balanced and edit others posts and put their words in brackets for people and search engines (hits) to not see. It would also be courteous to add this new rule to the official rule list.
      Don't do a drama of this, the only thing i asked was the use of brackets in order to keep a clean view ON THIS thread.
      Im fair and balanced, i've done the same with [MENTION=7151]Pockets69[/MENTION] and anyone that wants to expose more ON THIS thread i will tell them to use brackets. (in quotes)
      Don't get me wrong, im not questioning your point of view, neither what you think.
      I have to follow certain rules (and some common sense) in order to the thread not ending filled with endless quotes.
      But i will see what i can do regarding to your request.

      I know how to apologise, and if in any way you feel offended by my comments feel free to report me or let me know.

      Regards

      Hellsing9

    145. jennys
      06-07-2012
      10:04 AM
      147

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      Genesis cards sega saturn stuff modchips etc they were not DRM stuff! most of it used open source code
      Not every copier. flashcard & modchip had DRM, but most use copyrighted code to bypass protection. I listed a DRM NDS Flashcard, but if you look at all of the current gen flashcards they use modified NDS game code to boot and bypass the new securities. Sure, some have open source OS's R4/Acekard (Wood, AKAIO), but require using copyrighted code to boot them.

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      You are wrong reagrding backups, you can backup your media, don't let everyone tell you otherwise, IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO BACKUP YOUR MEDIA
      That depends on what country you reside in and it's laws about backups. I already mentioned countries where it's illegal.

      How do you know what code is contained in the TB - please explain?

      I also do not do not see any reason to call me all sorts of expletives, but it does not make you look any smarter.

    146. moggpogi
      06-07-2012
      10:25 AM
      148

      for all the people who hates true blue... all im wanna say is true blue is great, even if they crack true blue it still worth the money i spent, we all know that sooner or later it will be cracked, but this is very good dongle, many try to clone it and cracked it... true blue make this scene alive... we should have to thanks true blue for this... true blue is the one who move this scene again...

    147. mcmrc1
      06-07-2012
      10:30 AM
      149

      Originally Posted by moggpogi View Post
      for all the people who hates true blue... all im wanna say is true blue is great, even if they crack true blue it still worth the money i spent, we all know that sooner or later it will be cracked, but this is very good dongle, many try to clone it and cracked it... true blue make this scene alive... we should have to thanks true blue for this... true blue is the one who move this scene again...
      the scene is only alive who payed money for it and that is not the clue behind such a scene....

    148. stuck?
      06-07-2012
      10:45 AM
      150

      Regardless of how silly and backwards Canada can be sometimes, it's still good to live here.

      and backups are legal here Although, if Harper has his way, we'll be a clone of the U.S.A. soon.

    149. moggpogi
      06-07-2012
      10:46 AM
      151

      Originally Posted by mcmrc1 View Post
      the scene is only alive who payed money for it and that is not the clue behind such a scene....


      nahhh, for now the scene is all about cloning and cracking true blue...

    150. jennys
      06-07-2012
      10:59 AM
      152

      Originally Posted by stuck? View Post
      Regardless of how silly and backwards Canada can be sometimes, it's still good to live here.

      and backups are legal here .
      I also like to visit Canada time to time. Indeed backups and selling chips, etc ... is legal. Canada is one of the only developed English speaking countries that allows backups. They are also very tolerant for certain plants you inhale.

    151. fromzero
      06-07-2012
      11:37 AM
      153

      Originally Posted by jennys View Post
      Okay, so the pirates (Trueblue) steal code from other authors (some of them pirates also) to help make their product and the author of this news post is stealing the stolen code to figure out how the TB works (stealing as he doesn't have permission or the rights to disassemble and use the code. I know, hackers will hack - most don't care about licenses, rights or have morals).
      [spoiler]
      The only difference I see here is that the second person pirating the TB code isn't or hasn't mentioned if the end result will require a blank Dongle (like the original days) or if it will be totally free software (if it requires a Dongle you'll have to make your own or buy one, but hopefully it will work with the PSP!!!). Point being the only difference is the fact that TB costs money (trust me, I don't want one). Both parties are stealing from someone.

      Also from what I understand the TB code isn't 100% stolen and if a Dongle is required for a free solution then it does indeed require hardware therefore TrueBlue also designed the hardware required which is not an easy task. The recent discovery of the Virtual Machine leads me to believe some sort of delivery device (dongle) will be required for any free solution, but I could be totally wrong about that.

      If this does indeed lead to a free solution I believe that proper credit to the TrueBlue Team for creating the code they actually created (and Dongle, if necessary) is required. I also think that TrueBlue should give credit to any code used, but if we do not give credit for stealing from them regardless if what we're stealing is already stolen then we are no better then them in that regard. Also remember that using free code in your own work and charging for it is allowed depending on the license it's been published under; if any and some license do not require to even mention the author of the code being used).

      So yes, I believe that people should give proper credit for TrueBlue doing what no one else could at the time - that is if people are man enough to admit their pirating code from pirates to use more then likely pirated games as the only reason for the TB is to play backups (which are illegal in most countries) and pirated games (the pirating part could lead to a whole other debate so I will leave it at that).

      ---

      I'm new here so please don't throw my question out of the window because of that fact or the fact I have really no posts as doing so makes no sense as someone new is capable of having an opinion and should be able to share it without being judged for just being new. That's just immature.

      Thanks for listening (reading).

      Jennys![/spoiler]
      Why would it need a dongle? When psgroove came out it was great to use your own dongle (i used an ipod and a sansa) but it was later patched into the firmware.

      About you saying that TB did what no one else could... I'm pretty sure that Uncharted 3 and Battlefield 3 eboots are proof enough that you're wrong. How quickly we forget that those eboots may have been releases to proove something. Perhaps to a hardware manufacturer? Duplex released the first patches and then moved to psn games which still made us happy. Perhaps its the same releaser that is in both groups? Either way it seems as if the newer keys may be out there but being withheld. Probably to prevent Sony from releasing new keys.

    152. Pockets69
      06-07-2012
      12:00 PM
      154

      If you dont mind me asking how do you know this? What work of Grafs do you know to being used, his work on the HV? Did Graf do any work on 3.56+?
      Yes his work on the hypervisor is what allows most of this, its not pos 3.56 (and he did some work on pos 3.56) trueblue is 3.55 and it will always be 3.55...

    153. hellsing9
      06-07-2012
      12:43 PM
      155

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      Yes his work on the hypervisor is what allows most of this, its not pos 3.56 (and he did some work on pos 3.56) trueblue is 3.55 and it will always be 3.55...
      Hope you are right.

    154. jennys
      06-07-2012
      03:04 PM
      156

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      Yes his work on the hypervisor is what allows most of this, its not pos 3.56 (and he did some work on pos 3.56) trueblue is 3.55 and it will always be 3.55...
      We won't know until the code for the TB is dumped. Until then please don't state speculation as fact as spreading misinformation is never good for any scene.

    155. Pockets69
      06-07-2012
      03:17 PM
      157

      ^^ IT IS NOT SPECULTAION FOR ****S SAKE, i can see you have no more to resort too, so i ll just leave it to this, Graf Chokolo's code is used on that dongle, you would know it if you knew a bit about his inner workings.

      last post regarding this subject.

    156. DrWho198
      06-07-2012
      03:58 PM
      158

      [MENTION=207895]ElSalvatore[/MENTION]: First of all, let me state that I'm neither for or against True Blue. I didn't really want to go so much off topic in this thread, but since you are attacking me as if I'm a nobrainer then so be it.
      [SPOILER]Personally I don't even care about them asking money for the dongle they made since they actually did SOME of the development. However I am totally against the fact that they included suicide code, ask a ridiculous amount of money for the device and give no credit to anyone who's code/research they used. That makes me PRO hacking the TB. Come to think of it, it might even be better for them not giving credit since the devs who they should credit to probably don't want to aid in the piracy.

      However, of all the people who are cheering here for the TB being hacked, most of them are just cheering for them being able to play downloaded games. If you are honestly saying that you only want to play your bought games, then let's just leave it with that. Just understand that MOST people aren't so honest about there motives.
      [/SPOILER]

      Apparently you took that quote as a personal attack which wasn't my purpose. All I'm saying is that the threads getting the most attention are the ones about getting backups to run. Something that you wouldn't see in a healthy scene.

      As a personal message to you, I'm sorry I offended you. And I as well as you don't have the money for a second PS3 so I do understand the need for a solution in that area.

      bottom line, TB has no honor and is a rotten egg... but killing them won't save the scene

    157. ElSalvatore
      06-07-2012
      04:14 PM
      159

      [MENTION=102455]DrWho198[/MENTION]
      Sounds good. Let's leave it to that. :D

      But I really hope that some of the code of the TB might enlighten the devs a bit. As I said: I hope. xD

    158. DrWho198
      06-07-2012
      04:31 PM
      160

      Originally Posted by ElSalvatore View Post
      But I really hope that some of the code of the TB might enlighten the devs a bit. As I said: I hope. xD
      Lets all hope that

    159. jennys
      06-07-2012
      05:39 PM
      161

      Originally Posted by Pockets69 View Post
      ^^ IT IS NOT SPECULTAION FOR ****S SAKE, i can see you have no more to resort too, so i ll just leave it to this, Graf Chokolo's code is used on that dongle, you would know it if you knew a bit about his inner workings.
      last post regarding this subject.
      So say that I agree with you (which I don't) was graf's work released under a certain license or did he ever say people could not use it for whatever they wanted? How do you know he didn't give TB permission to use it or maybe he is benefiting from the use of the code. Just using code that was released into the public domain doesn't make you evil whether you're profiting from it or not. Maybe TB didn't even use graf's work, but just learned from it and implemented their own methods based on his findings (which is what will more then likely happen to the TB code).

      Also, I admit I do not understand the inner workings of the device due to the fact everything published about the device I've read has been straight speculation, propaganda or complete lies by people who hate the device. I try to keep an open mind and do not hate a simple device, but may not agree with who made it, how they made it and what it's used for.

      What I will believe is the code being cracked as we speak. It will tell all and finally people going around throwing rumours and speculation down peoples throat and doing so in an abusive manner will STFU.

    160. theghost11
      06-07-2012
      06:18 PM
      162

      For people like as myself who are uninformed, can someone enlighten me of what's going on and how this effects PS3 users?

    161. FYC999
      06-07-2012
      06:23 PM
      163

      jennys you are spreading more nonsense than anyone else. srsly you dont have a clue about any of this. if you dont even know who graf is, then i highly doubt you know what his code is.

    162. jennys
      06-07-2012
      07:14 PM
      164

      Originally Posted by FYC999 View Post
      jennys you are spreading more nonsense than anyone else. srsly you dont have a clue about any of this. if you dont even know who graf is, then i highly doubt you know what his code is.
      No, I'm not that familiar with the person or his code, but what I'm trying to convey is even if "it makes sense" or "it would have to use his code" is speculation no matter how much sense it makes. You simply can't go around passing off what you think may be fact as such as it only causes trouble regardless of your intentions.

      I simply asked is Graf's code had a license if it didn't then TB can use it as they please regardless of the morality of the issue. Since the guy has all, but vanished we can't ask him if he knows TB used his code because none of you can say for certain he has until you get your hands on the decompiled TrueBlue binaries.

      As for the "nonsense" I was spewing it was hypothetical situations that might offend people who are fans of Graf and believe his code is being used without permission. It was showing you that I too can speculate all day long, but not have a clue on what the facts are.

      Show me Graf's code and show me it in use in the TB and I shall believe. Until then I will not become to speculation from someone who likes to insult people with cursing that they disagree with and those are my final thoughts on this issue.

    163. Pockets69
      06-07-2012
      07:18 PM
      165

      Originally Posted by jennys View Post
      No, I'm not that familiar with the person or his code, but what I'm trying to convey is even if "it makes sense" or "it would have to use his code" is speculation no matter how much sense it makes. You simply can't go around passing off what you think may be fact as such as it only causes trouble regardless of your intentions.

      I simply asked is Graf's code had a license if it didn't then TB can use it as they please regardless of the morality of the issue. Since the guy has all, but vanished we can't ask him if he knows TB used his code because none of you can say for certain he has until you get your hands on the decompiled TrueBlue binaries.

      As for the "nonsense" I was spewing it was hypothetical situations that might offend people who are fans of Graf and believe his code is being used without permission. It was showing you that I too can speculate all day long, but not have a clue on what the facts are.

      Show me Graf's code and show me it in use in the TB and I shall believe. Until then I will not become to speculation from someone who likes to insult people with cursing that they disagree with and those are my final thoughts on this issue.
      why don't you get off of that lazy ass, and actually get the files check the ****ing sources, go to the wiki watch the posts, check sources again, educate yourself, stop trolling and leave us alone?