• Many of you witness the whole *heavy traffic* that gave us more questions, guides, and new alternatives but something is missing…

    Dex the king of the hill:

    You now have the chance to convert your Retail conversion into a debug unit (of course if you didn’t notice you are just emulating a debug unit) But still you can have all the benefits if you choose to convert.
    Since this *filtered* info appeared into the scene we have all you need and want to explore your PS3 until certain limit. You have good guides, good articles, and many thread talking about the same.
    Dex seems to be on the TOP = VIP style right now.
    Sadly again the tools were posted and not too much information about the METHOD, hence we can say..we know a 34% about it. The rest is for the curious enough to try and also try to understand what this is about.

    E3 team:

    With their prior statements with a broken English worst than mine, they gave us candies. As many times i said they know they will butchered in some point, and honestly? i don’t blame the guys they just stepped on the wrong side of the track plus a very bad timing to *make the world to know* and re-afirm they are onto something. (Dongle related)
    Now (on these days) they appeared again with more *news*, they don’t wait too long to add the capabilities to their own hardware flasher to dualboot cex>dex among other interesting and confusing *promises*.
    And they don’t hesitate to release more EBOOTS, now with SH downpour and Grand Slam tennis.

    Sure, they can take the risk and release some *software solution*. As i stated before anyone can buy that *magical solution* and start to publish it in every scene sites but we know that when something like that is released and with good results, the file or files will spread as bad flu all over the place.

    So what’s the final objective of E3 team?:

    Simple answer? = To Wait, until someone drops the ball or steps out. They will keep feeding the users with candies and man!! *candies* are addictive, problem is if they fail to deliver what they promised some months ago. Generating more speculation than real facts.

    TB team:

    When someone is some much time in silence, it’s for a reason or we can say two reasons:

    1) As News get scarce, the EBOOTS as well as the SOURCE that provides the EBOOTS both of them are dry or maybe they just don’t reached a nice *number* to close the transaction.
    2) They are waiting as E3 Team to someone make a move and then strike back with more EBOOTS. (1 or 2 more don’t get excited)

    But you will notice something funny on all this, NEW EBOOTS releases are very scarce. I wonder why…and then i wonder why the two *TEAMS* are waiting for something. You can make up your own assupmtions on this area.

    Sony:

    Sony known about DEX already, (it’s nothing new) with this method released, legal actions towards some *TEAM* trying to encapsulate the method and sell it in some dongle manufactured in Shenzhen, they have enough proof to take down TWO birds with ONE single shoot.
    But with the price drop along with the annoucment of the new 4K series among other things. Many users will say they DON’T CARE! they don’g give a flying DAMN about DEX.
    Well…You are wrong.
    With DEX tools and DEX method and DEX guides being out, it’s quite the contrary they don’t care less. Something used by them was filtered, we are talking to convert your retail console to an *emulated* debug console. (At this rate you know the REAL price of a PS3 debug UNIT).
    And we know HOW angry they get when someone messes with their own software. Plus all the garbage about 4K series…please.

    So keep your eyes peeled, wait for more updates from E3/TB or some other stuff. And Enjoy your conversion.

    Discuss in Forums (69)


  • 69 Comments

    1. defyboy
      07-27-2012
      01:12 AM
      1

      You see I read this article, but I didn't understand it.

      Can you please summarise what the hell you are ranting about this time?

    2. stussy1
      07-27-2012
      01:20 AM
      2

      Originally Posted by defyboy
      You see I read this article, but I didn't understand it.

      Can you please summarise what the hell you are ranting about this time?
      dont want to be rude but what part didnt you understand

    3. aya
      07-27-2012
      01:38 AM
      3

      Originally Posted by stussy1
      dont want to be rude but what part didnt you understand
      maye the whole existence of this "news" post.

    4. PlayStation 3
      07-27-2012
      01:57 AM
      4

      I will not be converting my PS3 to DEX anytime soon because, as we all know, the emulated DEX can not go on PSN ever as the key is not valid. And there isnt a way yet to convert from DEX to CEX yet.

    5. GregoryRasputin
      07-27-2012
      02:03 AM
      5

      Originally Posted by PlayStation 3
      I will not be converting my PS3 to DEX anytime soon because, as we all know, the emulated DEX can not go on PSN ever as the key is not valid. And there isnt a way yet to convert from DEX to CEX yet.
      It was also "well known" that we couldn't run backups on Dex.............

    6. KillerDAN
      07-27-2012
      02:37 AM
      6

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      It was also "well known" that we couldn't run backups on Dex.............
      Errr... but you can ! At least 4 at a time.

    7. KDSBest
      07-27-2012
      02:47 AM
      7

      Originally Posted by PlayStation 3
      I will not be converting my PS3 to DEX anytime soon because, as we all know, the emulated DEX can not go on PSN ever as the key is not valid. And there isnt a way yet to convert from DEX to CEX yet.
      Hmmm... there is xD funny that people think they can't go back.
      Dex can downgrade. Go to 3.55 and flash your old flash. done. That should work.

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]: This time u talked too much bull****. First you missuse the word emulation. Basicly the hack changes the target id, funny is that's all the ps3 checks if it is a dex or a cex. Pseudo Dex if you want but has nothing todo with emulation xD.
      I still like you .

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      It was also "well known" that we couldn't run backups on Dex.............
      U can!!! Guys really.

    8. HulkWogan
      07-27-2012
      02:56 AM
      8

      GregoryRasputin was being sarcastic.

    9. GregoryRasputin
      07-27-2012
      02:56 AM
      9

      Originally Posted by KillerDAN
      Errr... but you can ! At least 4 at a time.
      Hmmmm one failed to see the sarcasm, or quotations.

      The point being, we were told backups were not possible, it turned out we can, so how true or false is the fact we can't access PSN ?

    10. Pingoo
      07-27-2012
      03:16 AM
      10

      Actually lordv (the guy who first said backups were possible when evilsperm, deank were saying otherwise) also said he could get on PSN when 4.11 DEX was the latest version. Maybe there is a way.

    11. jennys
      07-27-2012
      03:22 AM
      11

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      Hmmmm one failed to see the sarcasm, or quotations.

      The point being, we were told backups were not possible, it turned out we can, so how true or false is the fact we can't access PSN ?
      Clarification; we were told 3.56+ backups weren't going to work, but the 4 game method was known about. However, the limitation to 4 backups only applies to 3.6+ games as mM can run your existing backups just fine. You also must take into account the people who said it was impossible didn't have a DEX at the time and were going off the research they had done.

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]

      DEX is hardly "king" of any hill. While it's presence in forum discussion is popular and early adopters have been reeking some benefits the majority of CFW users either do not have the skills to convert their console or won't due to bricks (which there are more and more happening daily). Losing PSN is not really a viable variable as it's barely been accessible throughout the life of CFW.

    12. StriderVM
      07-27-2012
      03:46 AM
      12

      I agree with the assessment.... Except for one thing..... Why call it emulation? Isn't emulation defined as usage of software to imitate the functions of a hardware? I think the term conversion still sound more appropriate...... Since it fools the PS3 into accepting DEX firmwares isn't it?

    13. Ada Love Lace
      07-27-2012
      03:59 AM
      13

      You can not have PSN but you can get ban. You can get ban but you can not have PSN.
      Choose the correct sentence and win one week of PSN+ ban.

      The article was nice, pretty cryptic but it might be the charm of it.

    14. psyki
      07-27-2012
      04:01 AM
      14

      Originally Posted by StriderVM
      I agree with the assessment.... Except for one thing..... Why call it emulation? Isn't emulation defined as usage of software to imitate the functions of a hardware? I think the term conversion still sound more appropriate...... Since it fools the PS3 into accepting DEX firmwares isn't it?
      it could still be called emulation seeing that its not a "real" dex console its simply emulating one

    15. dablakmark8
      07-27-2012
      05:21 AM
      15

      Originally Posted by jennys
      Clarification; we were told 3.56+ backups weren't going to work, but the 4 game method was known about. However, the limitation to 4 backups only applies to 3.6+ games as mM can run your existing backups just fine. You also must take into account the people who said it was impossible didn't have a DEX at the time and were going off the research they had done.

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]

      DEX is hardly "king" of any hill. While it's presence in forum discussion is popular and early adopters have been reeking some benefits the majority of CFW users either do not have the skills to convert their console or won't due to bricks (which there are more and more happening daily). Losing PSN is not really a viable variable as it's barely been accessible throughout the life of CFW.
      I agree fully with you on this.Maybe rebug team will add something later on. :D

      emulation
      In computing, an emulator is hardware or software or both that duplicates (or emulates) the functions of a first computer system (the guest) in a different second computer system (the host), so that the emulated behavior closely resembles the behavior of the real system. This focus on exact reproduction of behavior is in contrast to some other forms of computer .

    16. pereb27
      07-27-2012
      06:32 AM
      16

      Originally Posted by psyki
      it could still be called emulation seeing that its not a "real" dex console its simply emulating one
      It is not emulation. The hardware between CEX and DEX consoles is exactly the same. There's only one difference I believe and that is the RSX on CEX consoles cannot disable HDCP (which might be, again, software related, who knows). Sure, it's not 100% a DEX console, but it's definitely not "emulation".

      Also, remember how people used to log into PSN with CFW consoles with F*ckPSN, which hid the console's PSID and sent the servers an empty one instead, in order to avoid bans, and the server still let you in just fine? *hint hint*

    17. Inspectah_Deck
      07-27-2012
      07:06 AM
      17

      Originally Posted by jennys
      However, the limitation to 4 backups only applies to 3.6+ games as mM can run your existing backups just fine.
      No, when you are on 3.56+ DEX you have no peek & poke, so the "4 backups only" applies to 3.55 games too.

    18. getout
      07-27-2012
      07:27 AM
      18

      Originally Posted by Inspectah_Deck
      No, when you are on 3.56+ DEX you have no peek & poke, so the "4 backups only" applies to 3.55 games too.
      I can boot max payne 3 on my 4.11 DEX with that method. Explain that!

    19. gingerbread
      07-27-2012
      07:36 AM
      19

      Originally Posted by Inspectah_Deck
      No, when you are on 3.56+ DEX you have no peek & poke, so the "4 backups only" applies to 3.55 games too.
      From what I understand when you are in DEX mode :

      1. If you want to play any 3.55 backups you have to be on DEX CFW 3.55 (with peek/poke). You can play them using mM (Dex Version). There is no limitation as you are access them from internal drive like you normally would do.

      2. If you want to play 3.6+ backups, you have to be on DEX OFW 4.20. You play them from external USB HDD via bdemu. Only supports MAX of 4 games.

      To switch (go up and down) between FW DEX CFW 3.55 <-> DEX OFW 4.20, I think you have to use 4.20 downgrader pup.

      To switch DEX <-> CEX you can use latest mM to quick flash back. This is for NOR users at the moment. I think there will be a mM update soon to support NAND.

      Please correct me if I am wrong.

      Thanks.

    20. Sidewinder_2011
      07-27-2012
      07:37 AM
      20

      Originally Posted by Inspectah_Deck
      No, when you are on 3.56+ DEX you have no peek & poke, so the "4 backups only" applies to 3.55 games too.
      i can boot up 3.55 backups on 3.56+ dex with out peek and poke and with out the br emulator but only a selection of games would work

    21. psyki
      07-27-2012
      08:07 AM
      21

      Originally Posted by pereb27
      It is not emulation. The hardware between CEX and DEX consoles is exactly the same. There's only one difference I believe and that is the RSX on CEX consoles cannot disable HDCP (which might be, again, software related, who knows). Sure, it's not 100% a DEX console, but it's definitely not "emulation".

      Also, remember how people used to log into PSN with CFW consoles with F*ckPSN, which hid the console's PSID and sent the servers an empty one instead, in order to avoid bans, and the server still let you in just fine? *hint hint*
      ohh ok must have miss read somthing... well thats cool then

    22. Zara
      07-27-2012
      08:40 AM
      22

      I used to love this site, it always seemed to offer quality content (especially compared to other scene sites) along with friendly, interesting and (most important) mentally healthy administration so the decision to allow anybody to post random crap that's everything EXCEPT news and front page material doesn't make any sense to me. This clearly belongs to Scene Drama (or Off Topic at best). Come on PS3Hax, you were always better than that.

      Dear hellsing9, I want you to know this is nothing personal. I had the need to express my opinion, you have a right to not like it and the power to practice your ban hammer so if you feel like it, go ahead, I won't mind. Either way, this still needs to be said. I would still be very thankful if you took a few seconds to explain how exactly is a this front page worthy news article. Thank you.

    23. ramosxtreme
      07-27-2012
      08:42 AM
      23

      Okay this CEX and DEX thing going on sound great and all but I just don't think its worth all the hassle . Sounds like it takes a lot of doing. I would love to play some 3.56+ games and all but I just think all this is worth it. That just a opinion. I know most of us here have lost the hope of a new CFW but im still hanging on that hope. With all these new hacks and tweaks coming out and all the Eboots I still think its possible for a CFW. Not going to lie to you if I knew how to make a CFW I would be scared to release it as well. I would not want to get sued by $ony. For now I'll just let my CFW 3.55 PS3 alone and enjoy it the way it is. I also will enjoy my OFW PS3 untill the day comes when the PS3 is Truly Hacked like the Wii or the Xbox.

    24. stuck?
      07-27-2012
      08:49 AM
      24

      @hellsing9

      I loved the video! Had me in stitches. Though I wouldn't classify it as news, sorry bud. Can't ignore the fact that you are dedicated though!

      [MENTION=188983]Zara[/MENTION] I'm sorry

    25. hellsing9
      07-27-2012
      09:29 AM
      25



      Childs!!!! (Egomaniac style)

      Even if the concept of emulation is another thing, the conversion Cex>Dex is still an emulation for me.
      Unless you own a TEST unit and you are not telling anyone!

      http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/SKU_Models

      Don't like the article?:



      ---------------------------------------------------------------

      [MENTION=188983]Zara[/MENTION] I have the *power* to do it until the staff re-considers that im not *wise* enough for news section, if you want a *cleaner* HAX news from time to time, feel free to post your findings in the right section (ps3 member news) and can be frontpaged.
      My case, it's an article it's not news perse and i don't want to go copy/pasting from another sites, sometimes. If you found anything interesting be my guest and post like i said, create a thread and endure the comments that for sure your will ask some mode to close your own thread (if you create any) because you cannot argue with people that ironically are always arguing for anything they don't see as news.

    26. Alvoca
      07-27-2012
      09:30 AM
      26

      Interesting video... I dont understand why would they waste money producing that.... thing...... is it for real ?

    27. hellsing9
      07-27-2012
      09:38 AM
      27

      Originally Posted by Alvoca
      Interesting video... I dont understand why would they waste money producing that.... thing...... is it for real ?
      It's a clip from a movie, a *fake* news channel but it's not too distant from what sony (sometimes) delivers.

    28. stuck?
      07-27-2012
      09:56 AM
      28

      [MENTION=231140]Alvoca[/MENTION] The Onion is a fake news website/channel. Often it seems very real, but the outlandish headlines and news titles offer some subtlety hints at fakeness.

    29. hellsing9
      07-27-2012
      09:57 AM
      29

      Originally Posted by KDSBest
      Hmmm... there is xD funny that people think they can't go back.
      Dex can downgrade. Go to 3.55 and flash your old flash. done. That should work.

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]: This time u talked too much bull****. First you missuse the word emulation. Basicly the hack changes the target id, funny is that's all the ps3 checks if it is a dex or a cex. Pseudo Dex if you want but has nothing todo with emulation xD.
      I still like you .


      U can!!! Guys really.
      Remember i was the one to translate one from so many guides in Spanish. About Cex>Dex Still with the conversion it's not a phsical *TEST* unit. (Prices are too high to afford a real one).
      You know MUCH better than me that.
      It's just a powerful conversion.

      I like you too but you can deny that fact.

      --------------------------

      Hope somedoby can *filter* some method from CEX to DECR (If exists...i wonder)

    30. Alvoca
      07-27-2012
      09:57 AM
      30

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      It's a clip from a movie, a *fake* news channel but it's not too distant from what sony (sometimes) delivers.
      Thanks for clearing that up. Yeah, its true, I have a feeling that Sony lost their track in a last few years. Like for example releasing meaningless firmwares.

    31. hellsing9
      07-27-2012
      10:08 AM
      31

      Anyone who says that the conversion method from Cex>Dex it's not the *king* well it's blind.
      2 threads or more per day about this. So it's a heavyweight contender now.
      Most of the users are talking and discussing about it.

      If you see some lost TB thread, let me know. (Sic)

      P.s: (I moderate too).

    32. jennys
      07-27-2012
      10:40 AM
      32

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Anyone who says that the conversion method from Cex>Dex it's not the *king* well it's blind.
      I said it and I'm still able to read what you post. C2D is a hot topic I will give it that much, but as per it's adapted user base and potential to reach kids who had a hard time flashing CFW or paid someone to do so it's nothing more then a cool hack that they will probably never achieve.

      Even with it's simplistic guides for people that do understand how a computer and the Linux and Windows operating systems work these people are bricking their consoles. Some of these people actually have no idea how to drop to a shell or disable the blocking of hiding system and hidden folders on their operating systems and blindly follow the guides without the slightest clue on what they are doing. Some might call that brave, but I call it foolish.

      Regardless of the minority of people willing to do the C2D, those who have and those who are waiting for more developments the majority of CFW owners simply do not have the necessary skills for C2D or are able to learn on their own (therefor not developing such skills). Heck, TB users have it hard because they must find the patches and copy them over the games. Do you expect those types to have any clue on how to proceed with C2D?

      Granted C2D is an amazing concept, but I am more interested in what can be done in forms of obtaining keys, creating eboots or making a new CFW that can be simply flashed to the console with little to no risk of having your toy suddenly sit there and flash it's LEDs at you silently whispering in your ear "YOU DAMN FOOL".

    33. GraVoX959
      07-27-2012
      10:41 AM
      33

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Hope somedoby can *filter* some method from CEX to DECR (If exists...i wonder)
      Its "possible".. just change the same target ID to the right number..
      That WILL cause bricks though.. DECR is different hardware and running a retail as a DECR is too much stress on the system.

      As for PSN.. I believe [MENTION=231976]lordv[/MENTION] said something about it but I don't think you can expect to be teabagging anyone on MW3 & I definitely wouldn't expect Devnet access.
      This is a convert but not a full convert.. We've changed EID0, a full convert requires EIDV as well.

      Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

    34. hellsing9
      07-27-2012
      10:51 AM
      34

      Originally Posted by GraVoX959
      Its "possible".. just change the same target ID to the right number..
      That WILL cause bricks though.. DECR is different hardware and running a retail as a DECR is too much stress on the system.

      As for PSN.. I believe [MENTION=231976]lordv[/MENTION] said something about it but I don't think you can expect to be teabagging anyone on MW3 & I definitely wouldn't expect Devnet access.
      This is a convert but not a full convert.. We've changed EID0, a full convert requires EIDV as well.

      Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
      Devnet access? doubt so. And most of the *n00bs* failed to see that coming.
      And the ones who only want *Warez* using the conversion.
      Nobody has a TEST unit (on the board as far as i know and if someone have it, good for him), I think they were clueless what is a real physical test unit is. But now with this method released they can read about them and who knows...they can learn a little more about them.

      But well...Happens

      DECR will stress the system like you said, but can be interesting if you have a half dead PS3 sitting somewhere collecting dust, the question is can be done? don't know.


      Originally Posted by jennys
      I said it and I'm still able to read what you post. C2D is a hot topic I will give it that much, but as per it's adapted user base and potential to reach kids who had a hard time flashing CFW or paid someone to do so it's nothing more then a cool hack that they will probably never achieve.

      Even with it's simplistic guides for people that do understand how a computer and the Linux and Windows operating systems work these people are bricking their consoles. Some of these people actually have no idea how to drop to a shell or disable the blocking of hiding system and hidden folders on their operating systems and blindly follow the guides without the slightest clue on what they are doing. Some might call that brave, but I call it foolish.

      Regardless of the minority of people willing to do the C2D, those who have and those who are waiting for more developments the majority of CFW owners simply do not have the necessary skills for C2D or are able to learn on their own (therefor not developing such skills). Heck, TB users have it hard because they must find the patches and copy them over the games. Do you expect those types to have any clue on how to proceed with C2D?

      Granted C2D is an amazing concept, but I am more interested in what can be done in forms of obtaining keys, creating eboots or making a new CFW that can be simply flashed to the console with little to no risk of having your toy suddenly sit there and flash it's LEDs at you silently whispering in your ear "YOU DAMN FOOL".
      It's a hot topic indeed, and i know that certain users want this method to get more investigated because after alll your are *in a debug* state with your PS3.
      Not 100%, but debug still.

      They don't have any clue, and like i said. some of them they don't have any clue that real test units exists. So in some way (from my point of view) it's not fully complete ergo it's an emulation (and not the concept of emulation per se) just to do some *naive* example.

      It's not the same use dolphin for play gamecube games, etc. Than own THE REAL console and play them on the real platform and with some cool debug or secret menu to play with the hardware side of software side of the console.
      Something *similar* happens here, you cannot pretend to have a test unit even with the conversion when all you have is a retail one = converted.

      1) You probably will not get the same results.
      2) Some data will be missing.

      Among other *scenearios* that i can think and the one who wants to go a little further without paying someone to do something that they can do if they want to...well. I agree on that point with you.

      I said DEX is the king of the hill in *board* terms and hot topic stuff, hence you will found more guides, tutorials, among many other gems that if you don't catch them in time you get lost in so much information and desinformation.

      About TB users, i cannot say nothing.
      I hope this leads to something better, and something fresh.

    35. Sidewinder_2011
      07-27-2012
      11:30 AM
      35

      Originally Posted by BobbyCrush
      Can you play GT5 with the latest patch applied with a DEX system?
      why not ask that question in the right thread eg here

    36. Griff
      07-27-2012
      11:59 AM
      36

      im going to be honest, after converting to dex...it isnt king in my opinion. id rather be back on cfw 3.55 and pay for true blue ( if theyre going to update for the new games incoming) because with dex all i can have is 4 games at a time . id rather have my whole collection in one spot all at once with possible psn, its all less complicated.

    37. hellsing9
      07-27-2012
      12:00 PM
      37

      Originally Posted by Griff
      im going to be honest, after converting to dex...it isnt king in my opinion. id rather be back on cfw 3.55 and pay for true blue ( if theyre going to update for the new games incoming) because with dex all i can have is 4 games at a time . id rather have my whole collection in one spot all at once with possible psn, its all less complicated.
      They choice it's yours as anyone to do the conversion or just wait.

    38. pereb27
      07-27-2012
      12:17 PM
      38

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      About Cex>Dex Still with the conversion it's not a phsical *TEST* unit. (Prices are too high to afford a real one).
      So, to back up your argument, how about you name one difference between a converted console and a real DEX console, that is not HDCP, or the TEST logo on the shell? :P

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Hope somedoby can *filter* some method from CEX to DECR (If exists...i wonder)
      The difference between DEX and DECR is that DECR actually has different hardware from CEX. It's not about "stress" but "compatibility"... A CEX or DEX PS3 in DECR mode would most likely not even boot, and even if it did, it wouldn't work properly due to missing hardware.

    39. FaNtAsMiC
      07-27-2012
      12:19 PM
      39

      Well as i mentioned on another thread... loosing Blu-ray movie playback is a deal that i won't take, also the risk to brick your console is very high at the time.

    40. screwhead
      07-27-2012
      12:43 PM
      40

      It would be nice to run backups, and fro all the ones *****ing on uselessness cex dex just keep it I really think the devs see your *****ing and it makes them work harder. Learn something and do what the devs do or shut the hell up.

    41. dablakmark8
      07-27-2012
      12:45 PM
      41

      Due to laser issues i cant install red ribbon,but i got someone to convert my 1 ps3 to dex without installing a laser,They are going to charge me $76(convert from our currency to usd) for the conversion.

      I have not given the go ahead yet.I would like to wait another 2 months to see how things play out

    42. pereb27
      07-27-2012
      12:54 PM
      42

      Originally Posted by dablakmark8
      Due to laser issues i cant install red ribbon,but i got someone to convert my 1 ps3 to dex without installing a laser,They are going to charge me $76(convert from our currency to usd) for the conversion.

      I have not given the go ahead yet.I would like to wait another 2 months to see how things play out
      Wouldn't it cost you less to install a laser and then do the conversion yourself? o.O

    43. KDSBest
      07-27-2012
      12:57 PM
      43

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Remember i was the one to translate one from so many guides in Spanish. About Cex>Dex Still with the conversion it's not a phsical *TEST* unit. (Prices are too high to afford a real one).
      You know MUCH better than me that.
      It's just a powerful conversion.

      I like you too but you can deny that fact.

      --------------------------

      Hope somedoby can *filter* some method from CEX to DECR (If exists...i wonder)
      Cex to DECR is pretty much impossible, since the hardware differs.

      Game Studios buy a normal ps3 (basicly) and convert it with the suit and sony server to dex. So a CEX IS PHYSICALY A DEX. The leaked stuff changes the target ID. So your IDPS isn't correct anymore, which should prevent you from connecting to psn. I heared rumors there is a way. I don't care psn. So don't bother me.

      What the suit does as far as i know (And I know pretty sure ). Decrypts the whole eEID changes flags ans reencrypt. But for a DEX (till now) all you need is the targetid. As far as everyone could see on the partial release of the eEID lib. It's getting really complicated. I would say changing the eid0 target id was the easiest eEID crypto part.

      So stop telling it emulation it is not an emulation! xD

    44. bubbleboy
      07-27-2012
      01:40 PM
      44

      I love this site.. and drama.. and mean no offense.. but could you get someone to correct the broken english before frontpaging these things? I am not a spelling or grammar nazi, but sometimes I don't even know what the authors are trying to say!

    45. hellsing9
      07-27-2012
      02:24 PM
      45

      Originally Posted by bubbleboy
      I love this site.. and drama.. and mean no offense.. but could you get someone to correct the broken english before frontpaging these things? I am not a spelling or grammar nazi, but sometimes I don't even know what the authors are trying to say!

    46. oPolo
      07-27-2012
      02:35 PM
      46

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Wise words, wise words, and Ilove Robert Downey JR to.

    47. steve30x
      07-27-2012
      03:13 PM
      47

      Originally Posted by jennys
      Clarification; we were told 3.56+ backups weren't going to work, but the 4 game method was known about. However, the limitation to 4 backups only applies to 3.6+ games as mM can run your existing backups just fine. You also must take into account the people who said it was impossible didn't have a DEX at the time and were going off the research they had done.

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]

      DEX is hardly "king" of any hill. While it's presence in forum discussion is popular and early adopters have been reeking some benefits the majority of CFW users either do not have the skills to convert their console or won't due to bricks (which there are more and more happening daily). Losing PSN is not really a viable variable as it's barely been accessible throughout the life of CFW.
      From wha5t I have been reading you need CFW to be able to convert to DEX because you need to run a pkg to extract the key from your console. My console was one of those that was shipped with firmware 3.65 so I cant flash a CFW to my console so I cant convert to DEX.

      I only want to play my retail copy of GT5 off my PS3 HDD. Its the only game I have for my PS3. I play all other games on my PC.

    48. Twinkeltoe
      07-27-2012
      03:18 PM
      48

      Originally Posted by dablakmark8
      Due to laser issues i cant install red ribbon,but i got someone to convert my 1 ps3 to dex without installing a laser,They are going to charge me $76(convert from our currency to usd) for the conversion.

      I have not given the go ahead yet.I would like to wait another 2 months to see how things play out
      Uhm you do know you can install red ribbon from USB right?


      On topic:
      I agree with OP that DEX is the next big thing (news wise) for now.
      I've upgrade my PS3 to DEX just to see if I were able to do it since my PS3 was collecting dust anyway.
      It was fun to do and I learned a (little) bit of Linux along the way so for me it was great.

      What people seem to forget is that the conversion is still new (for the most people, not inner circles) and the people still need to discover the possibilities.

      Remember when the first CFW came?
      No peek & poke or anything.
      See where we got in the passing time.

      Hopefully DEX will have a similar progression.
      I wouldn't be surprised if PS3gen gets updated/modified to have more then 4 partitions on a HDD.

      I'm also hoping for a program that allows you to activate a partition on your HDD.
      AFAIK activating a certain partition doesn't require peek & poke since it's in the HDD partition table and not the memory.
      I could be totally wrong here but if I'm not I'm expecting a program like that soonish.

      And yes, converting a CEX to DEX does require paying some attention now (I did it without any prior Linux knowledge or flasher but I did read multiple tutorials and used google + my brain) but Naehrwert already hinted that there's a way to do it without Linux.

      Give it some more time and everybody (on 3.55) can do it.

    49. Cheesethief
      07-27-2012
      03:18 PM
      49

      In terms of features, DEX is the King of the hill. If you want the most out of your console, converting to DEX is the way to go. The risks are great, but so are the rewards.

      Herp Derp Tapatalk 2

    50. hellsing9
      07-27-2012
      03:40 PM
      50

      Originally Posted by pereb27
      So, to back up your argument, how about you name one difference between a converted console and a real DEX console, that is not HDCP, or the TEST logo on the shell? :P



      The difference between DEX and DECR is that DECR actually has different hardware from CEX. It's not about "stress" but "compatibility"... A CEX or DEX PS3 in DECR mode would most likely not even boot, and even if it did, it wouldn't work properly due to missing hardware.
      You pretty much answered the question. Conversion vs a Real DEX unit.
      Note: The method (which it's not complete) as many other things still being researched and documented but still (i will avoid the emulation part since KDEbest hates it xD) If you do the conversion, on a retail unit converted it's possible that some more options already documented won't work.

      DECR is reference. And nope as you say won't even boot or work properly.

      Originally Posted by dablakmark8
      Due to laser issues i cant install red ribbon,but i got someone to convert my 1 ps3 to dex without installing a laser,They are going to charge me $76(convert from our currency to usd) for the conversion.

      I have not given the go ahead yet.I would like to wait another 2 months to see how things play out
      If i were you i will wait. But it's up to you to pay or not that kind of services.

    51. mckenziesdaddy
      07-27-2012
      03:42 PM
      51

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] Currently what are the chances of a brick? Even with following one of Tutorials? Also is there any truth to the rumors of system's bricking once they are running DEX firmware? Also is there any easier method's coming in the pipeline?

    52. BobbyBangin
      07-27-2012
      03:47 PM
      52

      I for one am pleased with the silence from $ony. Hopefully that's a good sign of things to come. I wouldn't try to raise their ire. I think as we approach the release of new consoles the PS3 will continue to be opened up. I would like to thank all the devs who's time went into the whole CEX-DEX. It's definitely a big step for the scene in the right direction. I think it definitely threw a wrench into TB's plans. E3 has rebounded in a positive way by embracing the CEX-DEX release.

    53. DJ-1
      07-27-2012
      03:47 PM
      53

      OK, so out of curiosity.... what is the EIDV key in terms of 'rank' of all the keys ?
      Obviously the Sony Private key (theoretically) can't ever be pwn'd now since the crypto got fixed,
      Is the eidv key deeper than the per console key?

      Sent from my Galaxy S II using tapatalk

    54. hellsing9
      07-27-2012
      03:49 PM
      54

      Originally Posted by mckenziesdaddy
      Currently what are the chances of a brick? Even with following one of Tutorials? Also is there any truth to the rumors of system's bricking once they are running DEX firmware?
      Not many, if you follow the correct guides and tutorials you will have encounter some problems that you can solve if you ask. It's better to get a hardware flasher just in case.
      So far, no one reported that i saw here in the board and other places bricking on DEX.
      But yes i saw many users having problems trying to exit from debugging station on DEX.

    55. mckenziesdaddy
      07-27-2012
      03:56 PM
      55

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] So if using a hardware flasher would be something new to me, It would be good idea for me to wait til something else came along?

    56. hellsing9
      07-27-2012
      03:58 PM
      56

      Originally Posted by mckenziesdaddy
      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] So if using a hardware flasher would be something new to me, It would be good idea for me to wait til something else came along?
      Hardware flasher always becomes handy, even with this method. Just to fix something that you messed up.
      Since the conversion is *software solution* with the proper tools released by two devs.
      I can tell you to wait, to get a better spectrum of the whole situation.
      At this rate eache week something *new* is discovered, more guides more tutorials/etc.

      But the choice is yours mate

      Originally Posted by BobbyBangin
      I for one am pleased with the silence from $ony. Hopefully that's a good sign of things to come. I wouldn't try to raise their ire. I think as we approach the release of new consoles the PS3 will continue to be opened up. I would like to thank all the devs who's time went into the whole CEX-DEX. It's definitely a big step for the scene in the right direction. I think it definitely threw a wrench into TB's plans. E3 has rebounded in a positive way by embracing the CEX-DEX release.
      Nah, the the Cex>Dex method don't messed TB *plans* just stalled them. In fact like i said it's a slap in the face to the DRM devices.
      But in the other hand you have E3 like you said, with a *possitive* approach and making more promises.
      Honestly? i don't know whom to believe.
      But time will tell in this case, they are waiting as i stated in the article. Who's gonna do the first step?. We will know in weeks.

    57. mckenziesdaddy
      07-27-2012
      04:02 PM
      57

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] I think I will wait alittle longer, I have waited over a year since 3.55. What is a maybe a few more months. I have decent pc, so it will make up the difference. But thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.

    58. hellsing9
      07-27-2012
      04:03 PM
      58

      Originally Posted by mckenziesdaddy
      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] I think I will wait alittle longer, I have waited over a year since 3.55. What is a maybe a few more months. I have decent pc, so it will make up the difference. But thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
      We all waited for so many time, man. Waiting a little longer will do no harm.
      :P

    59. killerninja
      07-27-2012
      04:48 PM
      59

      Originally Posted by Twinkeltoe
      It was fun to do and I learned a (little) bit of Linux along the way so for me it was great.
      Word. I'm sure like many other people on here I just enjoy the challenge of getting to the point of playing 3.6+ backups on Dex fw more than playing the actual games themselves....

      If it was too easy this site would be called ps3n00bs.net

    60. mckenziesdaddy
      07-27-2012
      04:50 PM
      60

      [MENTION=135139]killerninja[/MENTION] oh I completely agree, I love a challenge also. We do not have pay TV, I use bit torrent for TV. So if I was to brick the PS3 our media player, I would have 2 women very pissed at me.

    61. pereb27
      07-27-2012
      05:40 PM
      61

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      You pretty much answered the question. Conversion vs a Real DEX unit.
      So while you're not answering my question (a converted DEX is still a DEX), I can interprete this sentence as "The difference is that a converted DEX would not be able to run DEX firmware if it wasn't for that conversion, while a real DEX console can run DEX firmware out-of-the box".
      And this is where you're wrong.
      First off, it doesn't matter if the console can run DEX FW out-of-the-box or requires conversion, since the result is the same.
      Technically, a CEX unit can run a DEX firmware just fine.
      However, the issue lies in the DEX firmware itself, not the console, as when you boot the console, the firmware will check the EID to determine if the console is CEX or DEX, and if it detects CEX, will refuse to boot. It's not that a CEX console cannot run DEX firmware, it's just a restriction that Sony put in place.
      Obviously if the DEX firmware can check if the console is CEX or DEX, and refuse to boot if it detects CEX, it means DEX firmware CAN run on a non-converted CEX console (yes I know saying this is kinda stupid and that the result is the same, but that proves my point)
      And that so-called "conversion" is simply a "bypass" for that check.
      So yeah, the emulation thing you came up with is just stupid, no offense :P

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Note: The method (which it's not complete) as many other things still being researched and documented but still (i will avoid the emulation part since KDEbest hates it xD) If you do the conversion, on a retail unit converted it's possible that some more options already documented won't work.
      If we were to compare this to Rebug, the ONLY reason most of the Debug features didn't work is that Rebug still used CEX CoreOS. The whole point of the conversion is so you can run DEX CoreOS without bricking because of the checks.
      Although, your point may be true, since there is still that HDCP issue, however I highly doubt it is, since we knew about that since long before CEX>DEX was released, so if there were other things that didn't work, I believe we would know already.
      (And for all we know it may just be a flag in Syscon, or maybe the RSX, that will disallow using that feature. It's probably not a hardware issue)

      EDIT : Did some quick googling, the reason HDCP can't be disabled on converted CEX consoles is because the HDMI chip is programmed to not allow it (probably it's something required by the video industry or whatever for such devices), which once again is a software difference, since the HDMI chip would be the same, just its firmware would be different.
      I also found another thing that's prohibited, which is running master discs via BD-R (in this case it's the BD firmware that's programmed not to allow it I guess), but you can still use the BD emulator for that. I wouldn't be surprised if someone found a fix for this, but I doubt people will bother, doesn't seem that important to me.

    62. aries2k
      07-27-2012
      05:49 PM
      62

      [MENTION=201308]pshax[/MENTION] mods
      So since DEX is king of the hill any chance we can have a section for DEX?
      It would be great to get all the info together in one place.

      Long live the king

    63. hellsing9
      07-27-2012
      10:06 PM
      63

      Originally Posted by aries2k
      [MENTION=201308]pshax[/MENTION] mods
      So since DEX is king of the hill any chance we can have a section for DEX?
      It would be great to get all the info together in one place.

      Long live the king
      It's pirate's choice.

      [MENTION=198593]pereb27[/MENTION] thanks for the info (really, not being ironic)

    64. itskamel
      07-27-2012
      11:02 PM
      64

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      i can boot up 3.55 backups on 3.56+ dex with out peek and poke and with out the br emulator but only a selection of games would work
      please do tell!

    65. DJ-1
      07-28-2012
      05:22 AM
      65

      Originally Posted by DJ-1
      OK, so out of curiosity.... what is the EIDV key in terms of 'rank' of all the keys ?
      Obviously the Sony Private key (theoretically) can't ever be pwn'd now since the crypto got fixed,
      Is the eidv key deeper than the per console key?

      Sent from my Galaxy S II using tapatalk

      Anyone ?

      Sent from my Galaxy S II using tapatalk

    66. aries2k
      07-28-2012
      05:33 AM
      66

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      It's pirate's choice.

      [MENTION=198593]pereb27[/MENTION] thanks for the info (really, not being ironic)
      Ok. I was just asking. I hope it didn�t seem like I was demanding it.

      [MENTION=198593]pereb27[/MENTION]
      I just read the edit on your post.
      I been driving myself crazy trying to get burned discs to run on DEX. Now I know why it�s not working. Thanks for the info, you just saved me alot of time and effort.

      [MENTION=185665]itskamel[/MENTION]
      It`s the directboot method like we used in Geohot 3.55 CFW without peek and poke. I started to mess with this but I�m kind of a noob and haven�t figured out how to decrypt eboots or repackage something that isn�t a psn update patch.
      hopefully carldenning we give us a little guide on the process

    67. dablakmark8
      07-28-2012
      01:17 PM
      67

      Originally Posted by Twinkeltoe
      Uhm you do know you can install red ribbon from USB right?
      Actually no, not according to my goggle search.If you can provide me a link to a tutorial i will be happy to try it.

      Then i can actually save 76 usd
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by pereb27
      Wouldn't it cost you less to install a laser and then do the conversion yourself? o.O
      Actually no.In South Africa the laser for cechc04( single laser is 900 zar.Also this would be my 3rd laser and i am not spending anymore
      money on that

      Edit:OKi found a tutorial on a well known site.Busy downloading the pup and nand files.

    68. pereb27
      07-28-2012
      03:33 PM
      68

      Originally Posted by dablakmark8
      Actually no, not according to my goggle search.If you can provide me a link to a tutorial i will be happy to try it.

      Then i can actually save 76 usd
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************


      Actually no.In South Africa the laser for cechc04( single laser is 900 zar.Also this would be my 3rd laser and i am not spending anymore
      money on that

      Edit:OKi found a tutorial on a well known site.Busy downloading the pup and nand files.
      You don't need a laser anyway, as soon as you have the logic board there wouldn't be a problem.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by aries2k
      [MENTION=198593]pereb27[/MENTION]
      I just read the edit on your post.
      I been driving myself crazy trying to get burned discs to run on DEX. Now I know why it�s not working. Thanks for the info, you just saved me alot of time and effort.
      Well, now that I think about it, people used to say you had to remarry the BD drive after converting to DEX. Maybe you could try that? (Although I wouldn't if you have a NAND unless you never plan on going back to CEX)

    69. Eboots
      07-30-2012
      12:28 PM
      69

      Originally Posted by Eboots
      You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time

      People are saying that's the end of TB ....... and TB users will have to buy a new dongle. If this was even true (which I doubt) do you really think we'd rush out and buy another dongle after we've been treated so badly by TB (get real!!!),, there's no way on the face of this planet will all TB users go out and buy another dongle, I for sure wouldn't and I own TB & Cobra. So as far as I'm concerned TB will live on as long as there isn't a free solution.*

      The only thing that can kill TB is a free solution. Best thing E3 can do is offer an easier downgrading solution at a cost but give us the free solution to play all newer games on 3.55.. This would then kill TB but increase E3 sales in downgraders, so it would be win win for E3 and the scene.

      But*if they do decide to bring out another dongle to play newer games they'll probably only get support from (I'd say) 1/4 of the TB owners, and the Dildo haters definitely wouldn't purchase one (according to them) so where would they be making there money from? This would defiantly be a bad business by TB & E3 if they are infact the same company (which I doubt)

      Like I said at the start:*You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time
      IM FEELING PSYCHIC....... I STATED THIS OVER A MONTH AGO..... NOW CHECKOUT THE LATEST E3 news on crunch!!!!!!