• PB2 v1.02 FW compatible with JB-King dongle: Research by CaptainCPS-X

    E3, Featured, General, Jailbreaking, PS3 Hacks, Uncategorized, X , 01.07.2012

    Thanks to @CaptainCPS-X for the info share with us :)

    What is this all about:

    I know that last month an article was posted regarding a clone of a clone. But in this thread I want to share my personal findings after doing tests with a JB-King dongle and inspecting PB2 (PS3break new product).

    Attention:

    This thread is not made to cause any controversial discussion and as the thread opener I ask of you, please let’s stick to the main topic: “using PB2 firmware with JB-King dongle”. If you want to discuss any other controversial stuff, please do so in the appropriate “drama” section.

    The Findings:

    As a very curious person that I am, and as a owner of various dongles / hardware that were at some point used and still are used in the ps3 scene to achieve some kind of jailbreak, like for example E3 Card Reader, CobraUSB, TI-84 Plus Calculator (yeah LOL, old payload days), and just recently I got a JB-King from a local store.

    I was wondering what was PB2 all about, so I went to their site and started looking at the documentation, for my surprise I noticed that everything, including the documentation images where exactly the same as JB-King documentation. Immediately I decided to check the download section and obtain the PB2 dongle firmware files, I then kept my curious investigation by opening them on my Hex editor, check sizes, names and extension.

    Now check this out, here you have JB-King FW files information (main FW and last update FW):

    Code:
File Name: 2.3_upgrade.dfu (main dongle FW)
Size: 2.00 MB (2,097,461 bytes)
CRC32: FFFFFFFF
MD5: 2A9CEA5056A5681F0126EABCA117B47D
SHA-1: E426B39291197AB21F671411F63C49A0E987417B

    Code:
File Name: upgrade_2.51.dfu (update FW)
Size: 25.2 KB (25,813 bytes)
CRC32: FFFFFFFF
MD5: C41A2E1433CA297A7E104502C53C7389
SHA-1: 718AF82E4B40624C720FD8B8CA7AE6556CA3895C

    and here you have PB2 FW files information as well:

    Code:
File Name: spitb27.dfu (main dongle FW)
Size: 2.00 MB (2,097,461 bytes)
CRC32: FFFFFFFF
MD5: CF988AC5EA526304981F0DC182E4D059
SHA-1: 56995A63B04793A8500F1CFB7B61D624BD76D325
    Code:
File Name: upgrade_2.71.dfu (update FW)
Size: 20.5 KB (21,013 bytes)
CRC32: FFFFFFFF
MD5: 9F8947326DCF46C0D02DF2E27F83F478
SHA-1: F814938B857F99687DD008E6D41DA61717268E7C

    Note: CRC32 was apparently modified in both cases JB-King / PB2, since this algo is flawed and if you have enough knowledge you can practically do this with all files, other hashes seems to be fine though.as you can see, the sizes and extension, and even the file header matches with each other (they are not identical in data though).

    The Test:

    After all that I came to the conclusion that if I flashed / upgraded my JB-King dongle with the PB2 dongle FW files it should in theory work.

    So I did it…

    - Connected the JB-King dongle to the PC (while holding the upgrade switch / button)
    - Run the JB-King upgrade utility
    - Loaded the main PB2 FW file, spitb27.dfu, and updated my dongle with it.
    - Disconnected the JB-King dongle from the PC
    - Connected it again, and did the same flashing but with the latest PB2 FW file, upgrade_2.71.dfu.

    The Results:

    After connecting the JB-King dongle flashed with the PB2 FW to my PS3, I turned it on and as expected, everything was fine. I didnt even change my PS3 CFW, still using the JB-King CFW v2 provided in their site.

    I then, loaded multiMAN to test Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (has TB patch applied) and after returning to the XMB the game loaded with no problems.

    Conclusion:

    This is at least good news for those who bought JB-King, since there hasn’t been any updates in their site with new FW that brings compatibility with newer games.

    At least from my personal test findings, you can actually flash a JB-King dongle with PB2 FW and use it without any problems =).

    Stay tuned

    I will eventually update this thread with information about tests with games like: Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Future Soldier, so far not supported on JB-King 2.51 FW (as far as I know) , but supported on PB2 v1.02.

    Important:

    Please note that I am in no way responsible for anything that happen to your dongle / hardware / console by doing what I personally decided to do, if you don’t know how to flash the FW files to JB-King, please be careful.

    PS: Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to be as informative as possible =). I will try to update this post with more information as I have more free time to do so.

    SeeYa!

     

    Update:

    Note: I will keep updating this with more info soon, like games tested, etc.

    What is PB2?

    PB2 is a recently released PS3 dongle by the creators of PS3Break. It works exactly as JB-King and TB.

    PB2 CFW and JB-King CFW

    Both firmwares provided by their respective websites are identical, they have the same file hashes:

    Code:
    File Name: PS3UPDAT.PUP
Size: 170 MB (178,826,845 bytes)
CRC32: 8FCA62E8
MD5: FF689E1E8CDD02A46DDADB14C3C5B85C
SHA-1: BA28DAD2975D58B0E55742CE0DA910F22D9516DF

    Extra Info (might be useful for devs)

    This probably is nothing big, but might be of interest for those working on reverse engineering these kind of dongles (JB-King / PB2 / TB / etc)

    Both JB-King and PB2 use a Firmware format with a DFU extension, DFU stand for “Device Firmware Upgrade”, and they are designed for STMicroelectronics / devices.

    The header of these files start with the following data (this one is from PB2 FW 1.02 / spitb27.dfu)

    Code:
    DfuSe.%. ..Target.....ST....:.ourceCode.stm32_psgroove.genkeytools.spi.tb27.dfu
    Code:
    unsigned char rawData[80] = {
	0x44, 0x66, 0x75, 0x53, 0x65, 0x01, 0x25, 0x01, 0x20, 0x00, 0x01, 0x54,
	0x61, 0x72, 0x67, 0x65, 0x74, 0x01, 0x01, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x53, 0x54,
	0x2E, 0x2E, 0x2E, 0x00, 0x3A, 0x5C, 0x00, 0x6F, 0x75, 0x72, 0x63, 0x65,
	0x43, 0x6F, 0x64, 0x65, 0x00, 0x73, 0x74, 0x6D, 0x33, 0x32, 0x5F, 0x70,
	0x73, 0x67, 0x72, 0x6F, 0x6F, 0x76, 0x65, 0x00, 0x67, 0x65, 0x6E, 0x6B,
	0x65, 0x79, 0x74, 0x6F, 0x6F, 0x6C, 0x73, 0x00, 0x73, 0x70, 0x69, 0x00,
	0x74, 0x62, 0x32, 0x37, 0x2E, 0x64, 0x66, 0x75
};

    Here you have some links to a couple of PDF with more information about the “DfuSe USB device firmware upgrade STMicroelectronics extension”.

    http://www.st.com/internet/com/TECHN…CD00155676.pdf
    http://www.st.com/internet/com/TECHN…CD00158241.pdf

    And here you have a link to download the suite of applications that allows you to, for example: Upgrade a STM device in DFU mode, Extract a DFU firmware as s19 / HEX / BIN, and even do some tests.

    http://www.st.com/internet/com/SOFTW…EMO/um0412.zip
    http://www.st.com/internet/mcu/produ…7.jsp#SW_DEMOS (have to click on ‘Design Support’ tab)

    On the original thread I attached some screenshots I took from my personal installation of these applications on my system.

    Discuss in Forums (78)


  • 78 Comments

    1. DEFAULTDNB
      06-30-2012
      02:24 AM
      1

      Nice findings [MENTION=99538]CaptainCPS-X[/MENTION]

    2. CaptainCPS-X
      06-30-2012
      03:35 AM
      2

      I updated the thread with "Extra Info" that might be useful for devs working on ways to reverse engineer these dongles firmwares (JB-King / PB2 / TB). It might be nothing big but might lead to something, idk.

      SeeYa!

    3. Adamsville
      06-30-2012
      03:49 AM
      3

      PB2 = JBK......

    4. CaptainCPS-X
      06-30-2012
      03:57 AM
      4

      Originally Posted by Adamsville View Post
      PB2 = JBK......
      Well actually, I think anyone can clone these guys if they have a 'STM32 USB-FS-Device dev kit', at least that is what I believe based on my investigation, we just have to flash the DFU files to them and they should do the same thing. I could be wrong though xD.

      SeeYa!

    5. HipHopStyler
      06-30-2012
      04:50 AM
      5

      [MENTION=99538]CaptainCPS-X[/MENTION]
      You could contact oct0xor and maybe he can start something big with this useful information. A try is worth.

      EDIT: If he doesnt reply,then tell GregoryRasputin,because oct0xor replies everything to Greg,but not to other users.

    6. luqi
      06-30-2012
      05:23 AM
      6

      Really nice Thx for sharring @ Captain CPS-X .

      Question : PB 2 payloads are in the actuell CFWs , i think now its possible to implemant this stuff into a CFW or Tennsys, right ?

    7. juanchuloperron
      06-30-2012
      05:54 AM
      7

      max payne 3 and prototipe 2 not works for my,black screen

    8. bigo93
      06-30-2012
      06:10 AM
      8

      Well they arent called cloners for nothing. Why restart from scratch when you can just rename the file and then claim it's your work.

    9. mcmrc1
      06-30-2012
      06:59 AM
      9

      very nice findings [MENTION=99538]CaptainCPS-X[/MENTION] !!!

    10. CaptainCPS-X
      06-30-2012
      07:50 AM
      10

      Originally Posted by juanchuloperron View Post
      max payne 3 and prototipe 2 not works for my,black screen
      Can you give more information on what dongle you use, what game release you're using or did you personally made the backup?

      Example:

      Code:
      Dongle: JB-King / PB2
Release Name: Max_Payne_3_PS3-VIMTO / Prototype_2_PS3-ANTiDOTE / Personal Backup
Game Code: BLXS-XXXXX
TB Patch: Yes / No
      Later today I will be doing test with 'Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Future Soldier (PROTON Release)' and if I can get a hold on those 2 games then I will test them myself and post some results.

      SeeYa!

    11. Adamsville
      06-30-2012
      11:56 AM
      11

      Originally Posted by CaptainCPS-X View Post
      Well actually, I think anyone can clone these guys if they have a 'STM32 USB-FS-Device dev kit', at least that is what I believe based on my investigation, we just have to flash the DFU files to them and they should do the same thing. I could be wrong though xD.

      SeeYa!
      Nah I mean literally, PB2 = JBK= SilverTone International Co

    12. CaptainCPS-X
      06-30-2012
      12:39 PM
      12

      Originally Posted by Adamsville View Post
      Nah I mean literally, PB2 = JBK= SilverTone International Co
      Thanks for pointing that observation out. I just went to their official page and even the case is the same as PS3Break, they made PB2 look different. The only thing is that JB-King is not listed there, probably they are involved in some way with the production of JB-King but another group take care of it, like in a franchise business (if you have basic administrative knowledge you will know what I mean).

      PS: Thanks to everyone who has avoided any controversial / dramatic discussion in this thread, I really appreciate it =)

      SeeYa!

    13. kenzya
      06-30-2012
      02:03 PM
      13

      Sniper V2 works with this new update on JBKing

    14. CaptainCPS-X
      06-30-2012
      02:16 PM
      14

      Originally Posted by kenzya View Post
      Sniper V2 works with this new update on JBKing
      Thanks for the info =) I will update the main thread with this test, can you tell me the game code (BLxS-30xxx) or release name of the game backup.

      Btw, I just tested 'Ninja Gaiden 3 (BLES-01524 / TB Patch)' and its working fine.

      SeeYa!

    15. Nicolas19
      06-30-2012
      02:24 PM
      15

      Hey CaptainCPS-X
      When you Upgraded JB-king With PB2 1.02 FW,in System Information Showed Version 4.11, True Blue v 2.7??

    16. CaptainCPS-X
      06-30-2012
      03:03 PM
      16

      Originally Posted by Nicolas19 View Post
      Hey CaptainCPS-X
      When you Upgraded JB-king With PB2 1.02 FW,in System Information Showed Version 4.11, True Blue v 2.7??
      No, it says Version 3.55, True Blue v2.5, apparently they didn't change that.

      PS: I just acquired an original Max Payne 3 (US) game disc and I will test it as soon as I finish doing the backup to my USB HDD and applying the TB Patch.

      SeeYa!

    17. juanchuloperron
      06-30-2012
      04:12 PM
      17

      the version 2.7 for jbking is out,prototipe 2 works great now for me!!!

      http://ps3.gx-mod.com/modules/mydown...it.php?lid=429

    18. Nicolas19
      06-30-2012
      04:25 PM
      18

      Originally Posted by juanchuloperron View Post
      the version 2.7 for jbking is out,prototipe 2 works great now for me!!!

      http://ps3.gx-mod.com/modules/mydown...it.php?lid=429
      Can you give me a mirror link as mediafire?

    19. CaptainCPS-X
      06-30-2012
      04:28 PM
      19

      Originally Posted by juanchuloperron View Post
      the version 2.7 for jbking is out,prototipe 2 works great now for me!!!

      http://ps3.gx-mod.com/modules/mydown...it.php?lid=429
      The files on that package are the same ones (identical) as PB2 v1.02 FW, apparently they were packaged as if they were actually JB-King official release. But I just checked JB-King site and there is nothing posted there.

      Code:
      File Name: S_2.7.dfu (main dongle FW)
Size: 2.00 MB (2,097,461 bytes)
CRC32: FFFFFFFF
MD5: CF988AC5EA526304981F0DC182E4D059
SHA-1: 56995A63B04793A8500F1CFB7B61D624BD76D325
      Code:
      File Name: upgrade_2.71.dfu (update FW)
Size: 20.5 KB (21,013 bytes)
CRC32: FFFFFFFF
MD5: 9F8947326DCF46C0D02DF2E27F83F478
SHA-1: F814938B857F99687DD008E6D41DA61717268E7C
      So basically is the same stuff I posted in my main thread.

      EDIT: Here you have, I uploaded the package to mediafire, but remember is the same files as PB2 v1.02 FW =P, the only difference are the documentation files, drivers and tools.

      http://www.mediafire.com/?9l8anicl3g2634c

      SeeYa!

    20. ricardosvp
      06-30-2012
      04:30 PM
      20

      The JB-king homepage dont says anything new!!!

    21. CaptainCPS-X
      06-30-2012
      04:33 PM
      21

      Originally Posted by ricardosvp View Post
      The JB-king homepage dont says anything new!!!
      Indeed, please check my previous post (previous page).

      SeeYa!

    22. Nicolas19
      06-30-2012
      04:37 PM
      22

      Originally Posted by CaptainCPS-X View Post
      Indeed, please check my previous post (previous page).

      SeeYa!
      Edited............

    23. kenzya
      06-30-2012
      04:52 PM
      23

      Sniper V2 - BLES - Works
      Max Payne 3 - BLES - Works

    24. juanchuloperron
      06-30-2012
      05:04 PM
      24

      tuto for 2.7 jbking:
      Update method :
      1. Press on JB-King upgrade switch and plug in main USB interface. Open "Upgrade.exe" and upgrade with the "updrade2.7.dfu" file. Then pull out JB-King and close "Upgrade.exe"
      2. Do not press on JB-King power switch. Plug the dojngle into PC. After about 5-8 seconds, pull out JB-King.
      3. Press on JB-King upgrade switch power again, and plug it into USB interface. Open "Upgrade.exe" and upgrade "S_2.7.dfu". The process will last for a longer time, please be patient !
      4. If you get tips as follows, congratulation, your dongle is updated successfully !

    25. CaptainCPS-X
      06-30-2012
      05:26 PM
      25

      Originally Posted by juanchuloperron View Post
      tuto for 2.7 jbking:
      Update method :
      1. Press on JB-King upgrade switch and plug in main USB interface. Open "Upgrade.exe" and upgrade with the "updrade2.7.dfu" file. Then pull out JB-King and close "Upgrade.exe"
      2. Do not press on JB-King power switch. Plug the dojngle into PC. After about 5-8 seconds, pull out JB-King.
      3. Press on JB-King upgrade switch power again, and plug it into USB interface. Open "Upgrade.exe" and upgrade "S_2.7.dfu". The process will last for a longer time, please be patient !
      4. If you get tips as follows, congratulation, your dongle is updated successfully !
      Gracias por el tutorial compa, pero no se si te fijastes que verifique el paquete que posteaste previamente, y son los mismos ficheros que los del PB2 v1.02, es decir que no ha cambiado nada de lo que dije en mi primer post.

      Parece que alguien hizo un paquete no official del JB-King y lo puso en esa pagina.

      Gracias de todos modos compa =)

      Saludos!


      PS: Sorry for speaking spanish, but I was clearing out some things to him because I believe he thinks that PB2 v1.02 FW files and those files he linked are different, and the truth is that they are identical.

    26. ricardosvp
      06-30-2012
      06:31 PM
      26

      My jb-king stop working after the upgrade (2.71), anyone knows the right order to restore it? Thanks.

    27. kenzya
      06-30-2012
      06:32 PM
      27

      Originally Posted by ricardosvp View Post
      My jb-king stop working after the upgrade (2.71), anyone knows the right order to restore it? Thanks.
      Make sure you also install the PB firmware or else you will get a black screen on boot

    28. ricardosvp
      06-30-2012
      07:58 PM
      28

      But the uploader says:
      "After connecting the JB-King dongle flashed with the PB2 FW to my PS3, I turned it on and as expected, everything was fine. I didnt even change my PS3 CFW, still using the JB-King CFW v2 provided in their site."
      I have to use PB2 Fw or not?

    29. CaptainCPS-X
      06-30-2012
      08:26 PM
      29

      Originally Posted by ricardosvp View Post
      But the uploader says:
      "After connecting the JB-King dongle flashed with the PB2 FW to my PS3, I turned it on and as expected, everything was fine. I didnt even change my PS3 CFW, still using the JB-King CFW v2 provided in their site."
      I have to use PB2 Fw or not?
      Don't panic =), I will help you out (it happened to me as well xD). First of all if you installed JB-King provided CFW 3.55 v2, then you dont need to re-install any CFW. Both PB2 CFW and JB-King CFW are the same.

      Now, if for some reason your JB-King dongle is not working right, for example is not letting your PS3 boot up correctly freezing it up, then just follow these steps to recover its original FW 2.3.

      Edit: You will need these files to do the 2.3 recovery, http://www.sendspace.com/file/1ov9sn (JBKING 2.51.rar)

      - While pressing your JB-King upgrade switch / button connect it to your PC
      - Using the 'Upgrade.exe' tool from JB-King load "2.3_upgrade.dfu" (2 MB)
      - Wait for it to upgrade your dongle, this will take a few minutes.
      - After it finishes, close the Upgrade Tool and disconnect the dongle from the PC (don't use the Safely Remove Hardware on Windows, just disconnect it)

      Now let's go to phase 2 of FW upgrade to 2.3...

      - Again, While pressing the JB-King upgrade switch / button connect it to your PC
      - Using the 'Upgrade.exe' tool from JB-King load "upgrade 20111220.dfu" (25 KB)
      - Wait for it to upgrade your dongle, this will take less time than the first.
      - After it finishes, close the Upgrade Tool and disconnect the dongle from the PC (don't use the Safely Remove Hardware on Windows, just disconnect it)

      Finally do that same procedure but with the 2.7 and 2.71 FW update files from PB2 v1.02 as I indicated on my original thread.

      If everything went ok you should see "Firmware 3.55, True Blue v2.7" on your PS3 System Information, if you don't see that then let me know so I can help you again.

      UPDATE: Max Payne 3 (BLUS) is working fine after making a JB-King FW recovery from 2.3 then went directly to PB2 2.7 -> 2.71 (PS3 System Information now display True Blue 2.7).

      UPDATE 2!

      Tested Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Future Soldier (BLUS-30521 / TB Patch), Working fine now!
      Tested Prototype 2 (BLUS-30756 / TB Patch), Working fine now!

      UPDATE 3: The main thread has been updated with the new revised procedure in case anyone doesn't see the proper version of the dongle FW in the PS3 System Information.

      SeeYa!

    30. Nicolas19
      06-30-2012
      10:08 PM
      30

      Guys
      now i updated My thread With 2.7 package
      100% working
      http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php...482#post361482

    31. CaptainCPS-X
      06-30-2012
      10:25 PM
      31

      Originally Posted by Nicolas19 View Post
      Guys
      now i updated My thread With 2.7 package
      100% working
      http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php...482#post361482
      Thanks [MENTION=213427]Nicolas19[/MENTION] I just updated the main thread with a link and information to your thread.

      I will appreciate if you can put a link back to this main thread in your post, so people learn and know what is really going on =).

      EDIT: I just posted a link back on your thread just in case =).

      SeeYa!

    32. Dolnor
      07-01-2012
      07:41 AM
      32

      After following the steps in Nicolas's thread as well as your thread (previous page) I still get version 2.5 displayed in my System information. I wonder what is causing this ?

    33. berneslai
      07-01-2012
      08:51 AM
      33

      warning

      Warning

      Let the thread BE and stay out of it for your own sake





      I just need to find something useful to do with my JB2USB dongle. Other than shoving it up my arse.

    34. CaptainCPS-X
      07-01-2012
      09:15 AM
      34

      Since for some reason all the thread edits that I made to the original message are gone, here you have the most updated info on my research about PB2 FW v1.02 compatibility with JB-King dongle =) and some extra new information.

      Note: I will keep updating this with more info soon, like games tested, etc.

      What is PB2?

      PB2 is a recently released PS3 dongle by the creators of PS3Break. It works exactly as JB-King and TB.

      New to flashing the FW for the first time?

      If you need detailed information on how to flash your JB-King / PB2 FW files to your dongle, you can check the following thread made by [MENTION=213427]Nicolas19[/MENTION] , it has detailed information on driver installation for windows (x86 / x64) and has a package with the latest PB2 v1.02 FW files compatible with JB-King dongle as my research uncovers =)

      http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=37481 ( Thanks to Nicolas19 for the thread )

      NOTE: If for some reason you keep seeing "Firmware 3.55, True Blue 2.5" and not "True Blue 2.7" on your PS3 System Information, then you must do a 2.3 FW recovery as I mentioned earlier, and then directly update to PB2 FW v1.02 (2.7 - 2.71). If after doing this you still see the same information on your PS3 send me a PM so I can help you out when I have some free time =).

      PB2 CFW and JB-King CFW

      Both firmwares provided by their respective websites are identical, they have the same file hashes:

      Code:
      File Name: PS3UPDAT.PUP
Size: 170 MB (178,826,845 bytes)
CRC32: 8FCA62E8
MD5: FF689E1E8CDD02A46DDADB14C3C5B85C
SHA-1: BA28DAD2975D58B0E55742CE0DA910F22D9516DF
      So basically if you installed it for use with JB-King dongle, then you don't have to install the provided CFW by PB2 when upgrading your JB-King dongle with their FW files.

      Extra Info (might be useful for devs)

      This probably is nothing big, but might be of interest for those working on reverse engineering these kind of dongles (JB-King / PB2 / TB / etc)

      Both JB-King and PB2 use a Firmware format with a DFU extension, DFU stand for "Device Firmware Upgrade", and they are designed for STMicroelectronics / devices.

      The header of these files start with the following data (this one is from PB2 FW 1.02 / spitb27.dfu)

      Code:
      DfuSe.%. ..Target.....ST....:\.ourceCode.stm32_psgroove.genkeytools.spi.tb27.dfu
      Code:
      unsigned char rawData[80] = {
	0x44, 0x66, 0x75, 0x53, 0x65, 0x01, 0x25, 0x01, 0x20, 0x00, 0x01, 0x54,
	0x61, 0x72, 0x67, 0x65, 0x74, 0x01, 0x01, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x53, 0x54,
	0x2E, 0x2E, 0x2E, 0x00, 0x3A, 0x5C, 0x00, 0x6F, 0x75, 0x72, 0x63, 0x65,
	0x43, 0x6F, 0x64, 0x65, 0x00, 0x73, 0x74, 0x6D, 0x33, 0x32, 0x5F, 0x70,
	0x73, 0x67, 0x72, 0x6F, 0x6F, 0x76, 0x65, 0x00, 0x67, 0x65, 0x6E, 0x6B,
	0x65, 0x79, 0x74, 0x6F, 0x6F, 0x6C, 0x73, 0x00, 0x73, 0x70, 0x69, 0x00,
	0x74, 0x62, 0x32, 0x37, 0x2E, 0x64, 0x66, 0x75
};
      Here you have some links to a couple of PDF with more information about the "DfuSe USB device firmware upgrade STMicroelectronics extension".

      http://www.st.com/internet/com/TECHN...CD00155676.pdf
      http://www.st.com/internet/com/TECHN...CD00158241.pdf

      And here you have a link to download the suite of applications that allows you to, for example: Upgrade a STM device in DFU mode, Extract a DFU firmware as s19 / HEX / BIN, and even do some tests.

      http://www.st.com/internet/com/SOFTW...EMO/um0412.zip
      http://www.st.com/internet/mcu/produ...7.jsp#SW_DEMOS (have to click on 'Design Support' tab)

      On the original thread I attached some screenshots I took from my personal installation of these applications on my system.

      SeeYa!

    35. EthanHawks
      07-01-2012
      09:16 AM
      35

      Originally Posted by berneslai View Post
      I just need to find something useful to do with my JB2USB dongle. Other than shoving it up my arse.
      How about you STFU and go read something that interests you rather than polluting threads up with this ****.

      You have made 2 posts and each one is like this.

    36. apexcore
      07-01-2012
      09:27 AM
      36

      I just ran the update with the PB2 1.02 files on my JBK, it still says TB2.5 in the system info. Is that right? Also can someone check to see if Dragon's Dogma will work? Thanks.

    37. gavi00
      07-01-2012
      09:29 AM
      37

      Originally Posted by Dolnor View Post
      After following the steps in Nicolas's thread as well as your thread (previous page) I still get version 2.5 displayed in my System information. I wonder what is causing this ?
      I have the same problem.

      Yo tengo el mismo problema, ha que puede deberse??

    38. hellsing9
      07-01-2012
      09:36 AM
      38

      [MENTION=99538]CaptainCPS-X[/MENTION] sorry for all the mess, i will fix it later the caps among other things.
      The screens are still on the thread.

      Thanks

    39. CaptainCPS-X
      07-01-2012
      09:44 AM
      39

      Guys don't panic xD, I had the same situation with the FW not updating correctly for some reason, just do what I mentioned here and you should be ok.

      http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php...018#post386018

      Edit: You will need these files to do the 2.3 recovery, http://www.sendspace.com/file/1ov9sn (JBKING 2.51.rar)

      Edit 2: After doing the FW Recovery to 2.3 you can go here and start from "STEP 2" of Nicolas19's tutorial =)

      http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php...482#post361482

      So far all recent games are working fine ( a detailed list of tested games will be posted later, I just woke up xD LOL )

      Originally Posted by hellsing9 View Post
      [MENTION=99538]CaptainCPS-X[/MENTION] sorry for all the mess, i will fix it later the caps among other things.
      The screens are still on the thread.

      Thanks
      Is all good man! ^__^ don't worry!



      SeeYa!

    40. apexcore
      07-01-2012
      10:01 AM
      40

      After I did the recovery to 2.3, then upgraded to 2.71 using the PB2 files, it still says TB2.5 in the system info. So I either have different hardware JBK or the process worked and it just didn't update the system info. I don't have any TB2.7 games to test, but I'll post later when I can acquire some.

    41. ZeusCronos
      07-01-2012
      10:08 AM
      41

      i hope we can make our Jb King, with an Usb, btw thanks for all this sharing, kkep it coming

    42. Hannibal1471
      07-01-2012
      10:28 AM
      42

      2.7 update? Lol ;d

    43. ShinAbo
      07-01-2012
      11:25 AM
      43

      I updated my jbking dongle turned on my ps3 and after a minute it froze. off then on and my hdd got corrupted and need to be formatted

    44. wizzkidd
      07-01-2012
      11:30 AM
      44

      Great work [MENTION=99538]CaptainCPS-X[/MENTION] - my question is, i have a P3GO (P3 T-Break) dongle, and cannot ignore that the JB-King looks like an identical of it. Am I correct in saying that the P3GO is the hardware that is being used for the JB-King, and if it is, do you think it's possible to load the PB2 v1.02 FW onto it to produce a cloned TB Dongle?

      It's interesting to see that the PS3 Cheat dongle also uses the P3GO hardware too (this i know for sure) - sound promising with regards to the abilities of these P3GO Dongles!

    45. CaptainCPS-X
      07-01-2012
      11:46 AM
      45

      I made a new package for those having problems with the flashing process. Please read the documentation that I included, I wrote it myself with specific instructions and details of the process.

      Hope it helps, I made every step with my own dongle again to make sure it works and everything went fine. System says "Firmware 4.11, True Blue 2.7".

      Here is the README.txt anyways

      Code:
      ---------------------------------------------------
JB-King 2.3 - 2.71 FW package [ by CaptainCPS-X ]
updated: 7-1-2012
===================================================

------------------------
Introduction
========================

Recently I created a post where I shared my discovery about the fact that you can actually use the PB2 firmware files (DFU) with JB-King dongle, since they are basically the same thing. If you want to learn more visit this article at ps3hax.net:

http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=39621


------------------------
About this package
========================

This package was made in hopes of helping users that are having problems updating / flashing their JB-King dongle with the latest PB2 v1.02 FW files (2.71)

The main difference of this package with others, is that this one includes a different Flashing Utility, this one was obtained from STMicroelectronics official software suite. It presents more advanced user options than the one provided by JB-King / PB2.

Files have been renamed and organized for better understanding of the flashing process as well.

Note: You must install the JB-King / PB2 dongle drivers for Windows x86 / x64 (included) before proceding.


-----------------------------------
Flashing 2.3 -> 2.7 FW to JB-King
===================================

To ensure the flashing process of 2.7, first we must make a recovery flashing of FW 2.3.

The flashing consist of 2 phases, because we must flash 2 different targets on the dongle.

NOTE: When removing the dongle from the PC, don't use the Windows "Safely remove hardware" just disconnect the dongle after you finish the flashing process.


PHASE 1 (2.3)

1- While pressing the upgrade button on your JB-King dongle, connect it to your PC.
2- Wait until the device is properly detected
3- Run the included Flashing Utility "DfuSeDemo.exe"
4- In the "Upgrade or Verify Action" section click on "Choose..."
5- Select the included "2.3_Target_01.dfu", on the side box it should say "Target in file... 01 ST"
6- Now in the "Action" list box displayng the available device targets, select the "01"
7- Select the "Optimize upgrade duration (Remove some FFs)" checkbox
8- Press "Upgrade" and wait for the process to complete


PHASE 2 (2.3)

1- After PHASE 1 is done, don't close the Flashing utility
2- In the "upgrade or Verify Action" section click on "Choose..."
3- Select the included "2.3_Target_00.dfu", on the side box it should say "Target in file... 00 ST"
4- Now in the "Action" list box displaying the available device targets, select the "00"
5- Press "Upgrade" and wait for the process to complete
6- You can now remove the dongle so we can get ready for the final upgrading


We are now ready to flash the latest FW 2.71 to JB-King, follow this procedure:


PHASE 1 (2.7)

1- While pressing the upgrade button on your JB-King dongle, connect it to your PC.
2- Wait until the device is properly detected
3- Run the included Flashing Utility "DfuSeDemo.exe"
4- In the "Upgrade or Verify Action" section click on "Choose..."
5- Select the included "2.7_Target_01.dfu", on the side box it should say "Target in file... 01 ST"
6- Now in the "Action" list box displayng the available device targets, select the "01"
7- Select the "Optimize upgrade duration (Remove some FFs)" checkbox
8- Press "Upgrade" and wait for the process to complete


PHASE 2 (2.71)

1- After PHASE 1 is done, don't close the Flashing utility
2- In the "upgrade or Verify Action" section click on "Choose..."
3- Select the included "2.71_Target_00.dfu", on the side box it should say "Target in file... 00 ST"
4- Now in the "Action" list box displaying the available device targets, select the "00"
5- Press "Upgrade" and wait for the process to complete
6- You can now remove the dongle


--------------------------------
Finish
================================

To verify that the process completed successfully, connect the JB-King dongle to your PS3 and after the booting process finish, go to "System Settings - > System Information".

It should now say "Firmware 4.11, True Blue 2.7"

If it doesn't say it, don't panic try to flash the dongle again.
      Download: http://www.mediafire.com/?fi4sdke4ypykrj4

      The Flashing utility that I included is more advanced than the one from JB-King / PB2 so PLEASE, follow the instructions step by step very carefully.

      I will say it again just in case...

      Please note that I am in no way responsible for anything that happen to your dongle / hardware / console by doing what I personally decided to do, if you don’t know how to flash the FW files to JB-King, please be careful.

      UPDATE: I attached a picture that indicates very clear with a big "X" the area of this new Flashing Utility that should NOT use, and a green arrow indicating where we should Choose the DFU files when following the tutorial.

      SeeYa!

    46. Dolnor
      07-01-2012
      12:39 PM
      46

      Thank you so much for finding this out!
      I have thought that my jb-dildo will be going in the dumpster (well a drawer to be exact) because I was unable to play MGS HD collection that I've got /w the update from the company. And it looked like the company has abandoned it's customers .. but reading the first couple of line from the PB2 webpage it says 'The king is back' so this is a great hint to the fact that it is basically the same company with apparently same hardware used in their dongle.

      Following the guidelines of your archive posted above I was successfully able to flash usb key and make it appear as TB v2.7 under System info.
      I can confirm the game mentioned above working with the eboot patch!

    47. CaptainCPS-X
      07-01-2012
      12:46 PM
      47

      Originally Posted by Dolnor View Post
      Thank you so much for finding this out!
      I have thought that my jb-dildo will be going in the dumpster (well a drawer to be exact) because I was unable to play MGS HD collection that I've got /w the update from the company. And it looked like the company has abandoned it's customers .. but reading the first couple of line from the PB2 webpage it says 'The king is back' so this is a great hint to the fact that it is basically the same company with apparently same hardware used in their dongle.

      Following the guidelines of your archive posted above I was successfully able to flash usb key and make it appear as TB v2.7 under System info.
      I can confirm the game mentioned above working with the eboot patch!
      Great! Is good to know that everything went fine =)

      Im working on a detailed tutorial (instead of text only) with images and everything so other users can do it without much problem.

      Thanks for letting us know!

      UPDATE: Here is the full guide with images and all!

      Flashing 2.3 -> 2.7 FW to JB-King

      To ensure the flashing process of 2.7, first we must make a recovery flashing of FW 2.3.

      The flashing consist of 2 phases, because we must flash 2 different targets on the dongle.

      NOTE: When removing the dongle from the PC, don't use the Windows "Safely remove hardware" just disconnect the dongle after you finish the flashing process.


      PHASE 1 (2.3)

      1- While pressing the upgrade button on your JB-King dongle, connect it to your PC.



      2- Wait until the device is properly detected



      3- Run the included Flashing Utility "DfuSeDemo.exe"



      4- In the "Upgrade or Verify Action" section click on "Choose..."
      5- Select the included "2.3_Target_01.dfu", on the side box it should say "Target in file... 01 ST"
      6- Now in the "Action" list box displayng the available device targets, select the "01"
      7- Select the "Optimize upgrade duration (Remove some FFs)" checkbox
      8- Press "Upgrade" and wait for the process to complete











      PHASE 2 (2.3)

      1- After PHASE 1 is done, don't close the Flashing utility
      2- In the "upgrade or Verify Action" section click on "Choose..."
      3- Select the included "2.3_Target_00.dfu", on the side box it should say "Target in file... 00 ST"
      4- Now in the "Action" list box displaying the available device targets, select the "00"
      5- Press "Upgrade" and wait for the process to complete













      6- You can now remove the dongle so we can get ready for the final upgrading


      We are now ready to flash the latest FW 2.71 to JB-King, follow this procedure:


      PHASE 1 (2.7)

      1- While pressing the upgrade button on your JB-King dongle, connect it to your PC.



      2- Wait until the device is properly detected



      3- Run the included Flashing Utility "DfuSeDemo.exe"



      4- In the "Upgrade or Verify Action" section click on "Choose..."
      5- Select the included "2.7_Target_01.dfu", on the side box it should say "Target in file... 01 ST"
      6- Now in the "Action" list box displayng the available device targets, select the "01"
      7- Select the "Optimize upgrade duration (Remove some FFs)" checkbox
      8- Press "Upgrade" and wait for the process to complete











      PHASE 2 (2.71)

      1- After PHASE 1 is done, don't close the Flashing utility
      2- In the "upgrade or Verify Action" section click on "Choose..."
      3- Select the included "2.71_Target_00.dfu", on the side box it should say "Target in file... 00 ST"
      4- Now in the "Action" list box displaying the available device targets, select the "00"
      5- Press "Upgrade" and wait for the process to complete











      6- You can now remove the dongle

      Finish!

      To verify that the process completed successfully, connect the JB-King dongle to your PS3 and after the booting process finish, go to "System Settings - > System Information".

      It should now say "Firmware 4.11, True Blue 2.7"

      If it doesn't say it, don't panic try to flash the dongle again.

      SeeYa!

    48. u.s
      07-01-2012
      02:10 PM
      48

      Many thanks to Nicolas19 and CaptainCPS-X for your guides.
      I tried Nicolas19s guide first with no luck and then Captains guide, again no luck.
      System settings still show v2.5.
      Will try again using a different computer.

    49. uap307
      07-01-2012
      02:54 PM
      49

      Same here,after update with new firmware a red light is glowing inside the dongle,with the original 2.51 firmware is not light anymore

    50. Nicolas19
      07-01-2012
      03:11 PM
      50

      Originally Posted by u.s View Post
      Many thanks to Nicolas19 and CaptainCPS-X for your guides.
      I tried Nicolas19s guide first with no luck and then Captains guide, again no luck.
      System settings still show v2.5.
      Will try again using a different computer.
      No my Guy
      Please try again
      i tested My Method on 25 JB-King and Working 100%

    51. yoppie
      07-01-2012
      03:27 PM
      51

      not work for me too. why?

    52. Nicolas19
      07-01-2012
      03:37 PM
      52

      Originally Posted by yoppie View Post
      not work for me too. why?
      you tested My Method?ummmmmmmmmmm
      F[MENTION=24536]cki[/MENTION]ng Question!?you used CFW TB V2?

    53. Dolnor
      07-01-2012
      03:42 PM
      53

      the key moment in all this SPI reflashes is that you have to unplug it from the usb port and then replug it without using the button (it will be detected as a Hub device), then unplug it and plug back in this time holding the button. this has to be done after every SPI flash procedure that you do to the dongle or the microcode on the chip is not being updated properly.

    54. yoppie
      07-01-2012
      03:47 PM
      54

      Originally Posted by Nicolas19 View Post
      you tested My Method?ummmmmmmmmmm
      F[MENTION=24536]cki[/MENTION]ng Question!?you used CFW TB V2?
      yes, used cfw tbv2. thx

    55. u.s
      07-01-2012
      04:02 PM
      55

      Originally Posted by Dolnor View Post
      the key moment in all this SPI reflashes is that you have to unplug it from the usb port and then replug it without using the button (it will be detected as a Hub device), then unplug it and plug back in this time holding the button. this has to be done after every SPI flash procedure that you do to the dongle or the microcode on the chip is not being updated properly.
      YES !!!!
      thank you very much, now working.
      used Captains guide and did PHASE1 and PHASE2 of 2.3, then unplug dongle and plug back in (without holding button) and wait for USB hub detected message, then pull out the dongle.
      Push button on dongle and plug it in to usb port and continue with PHASE1 and PHASE2 of 2.7, then unplug dongle and plug back in (without holding button), computer will show message 'Unrecognised Device', unplug from PC and use in PS3.
      This is the method that worked for me.

    56. jennys
      07-01-2012
      04:16 PM
      56

      It would be nice to be able to purchase these boards blank and simply flash them, although there is probably some customization/detection of specific HW addons to deter people from doing so. I'd be willing to try ordering a few, but I have OFW so it would be pointless.

      [MENTION=99538]CaptainCPS-X[/MENTION]

      You're sure pumped up over a toy, but your attention to detail regarding your documentation, pictures and concise instructions are refreshing to see compared to most of the poorly composed guides for PS3 related projects. Keep it up and thanks for contributing.

    57. CaptainCPS-X
      07-01-2012
      05:05 PM
      57

      Originally Posted by jennys View Post
      It would be nice to be able to purchase these boards blank and simply flash them, although there is probably some customization/detection of specific HW addons to deter people from doing so. I'd be willing to try ordering a few, but I have OFW so it would be pointless.

      [MENTION=99538]CaptainCPS-X[/MENTION]

      You're sure pumped up over a toy, but your attention to detail regarding your documentation, pictures and concise instructions are refreshing to see compared to most of the poorly composed guides for PS3 related projects. Keep it up and thanks for contributing.
      Thanks for your comments! =), I love technology overall and more if it have to do with videogames. I been around other scenes like for example the Arcade Emulation scene (that's where my nickname came from, CPS = Capcom Play System).

      I like to get involved in things like this, very deep, because it allows me to learn a lot of things, and as a programer I feel like I'm finding gold hehe =P

      Comments like yours motivate me to keep doing the stuff that I do and help others, so thank you!

      Btw, one of my projects for the PS3 scene was multiMAN Retro Tools long time ago ( http://www.ps3hax.net/2011/06/multim...om-management/ ). Maybe I get motivated enough to contribute again with something for the scene.

      Take Care! SeeYa!

    58. apexcore
      07-01-2012
      05:12 PM
      58

      Originally Posted by u.s View Post
      YES !!!!
      thank you very much, now working.
      used Captains guide and did PHASE1 and PHASE2 of 2.3, then unplug dongle and plug back in (without holding button) and wait for USB hub detected message, then pull out the dongle.
      Push button on dongle and plug it in to usb port and continue with PHASE1 and PHASE2 of 2.7, then unplug dongle and plug back in (without holding button), computer will show message 'Unrecognised Device', unplug from PC and use in PS3.
      This is the method that worked for me.
      Yep, the plug and unplug trick worked for me too. I'm using Nicolas19's files btw.

    59. jennys
      07-01-2012
      05:19 PM
      59

      Originally Posted by CaptainCPS-X View Post
      Take Care!
      Speaking of Capcom; I really enjoy playing some of their games with friends. I just had to track down some very tiny components to fix my 1.6b XBOX so I'm back in action!

      I'm also working on a project; a lifetime dream of mine I've come to realize over the first half of this year. It sure is rewarding to create something especially if others can make use of it.

      Oh, you're welcome for comments.

    60. jerichox
      07-01-2012
      08:51 PM
      60

      hi!, i have a problem

      i tried every single tutorial to upgrade my jb king to 2.7 but when i start the ps3 whith the dongle connected the screen stays in black and the system doesnt start

      what can be happening? in the morning i have the 2.51 firmware and i cant play but the 2.7 doesnt work


      please help


      PS: Sorry for my english i from chile and english is not my first language

    61. Vincent360
      07-02-2012
      01:57 AM
      61

      I updated the thread with "Extra Info" that might be useful for devs working on ways to reverse engineer these dongles firmwares (JB-King / PB2 / TB). It might be nothing big but might lead to something, idk.

    62. yoppie
      07-02-2012
      06:01 AM
      62

      Originally Posted by Nicolas19 View Post
      you tested My Method?ummmmmmmmmmm
      F[MENTION=24536]cki[/MENTION]ng Question!?you used CFW TB V2?
      thx bro nicolas19, Yep, the plug and unplug trick worked for me too. I'm using Nicolas19's files btw.

    63. sabi
      07-02-2012
      12:47 PM
      63

      Can u do this with any USB drive or I have to have jb king

    64. CaptainCPS-X
      07-02-2012
      03:23 PM
      64

      PB2 Official site has updated with this:


      Disclaimer: the latest firmware of PB2 is only applicable to PB2 dongle [2012.07.02]

      PS3break team have noted that there are some debates on clone events. we have to announce that PS3break team is the second team who is capable of releasing the latest firmware to support TB v2.7 after TB2. The latest firmware of PB2 is only applicable to PB2 dongle, it doesn't fully support other similar products, if you continue to upgrade other dongle with PB2 firmware, what happens to you is your responsibility. we will always take the forefront in the ps3 scene, provide the most prompt and safest update service for our customers.
      Source: http://www.ps3break.com/News.asp

      PS: This will be the only thread I participate from now on, I will no longer be participating on ps3hax overall, at least until (and if) some things change.

      SeeYa!

    65. donglehater
      07-02-2012
      03:37 PM
      65

      Originally Posted by berneslai View Post
      I just need to find something useful to do with my JB2USB dongle. Other than shoving it up my arse.
      One persons useful is anothers NO F'n WAY

    66. Nicolas19
      07-02-2012
      04:04 PM
      66

      Originally Posted by CaptainCPS-X View Post
      PB2 Official site has updated with this:



      Source: http://www.ps3break.com/News.asp

      PS: This will be the only thread I participate from now on, I will no longer be participating on ps3hax overall, at least until (and if) some things change.

      SeeYa!
      Just LOL
      PS3break Team:Please Do not Buy JB-Kingd
      i tested All New Games With JB-KING and Was Ok so please Shut up PS3Break Team Because your v1.02 FW is 100% compatible with JB-King dongle

    67. GregoryRasputin
      07-02-2012
      05:04 PM
      67

      Originally Posted by CaptainCPS-X View Post

      PS: This will be the only thread I participate from now on, I will no longer be participating on ps3hax overall, at least until (and if) some things change.

      SeeYa!
      lol ....

    68. u.s
      07-02-2012
      05:24 PM
      68

      Originally Posted by jerichox View Post
      hi!, i have a problem

      i tried every single tutorial to upgrade my jb king to 2.7 but when i start the ps3 whith the dongle connected the screen stays in black and the system doesnt start

      what can be happening? in the morning i have the 2.51 firmware and i cant play but the 2.7 doesnt work


      please help


      PS: Sorry for my english i from chile and english is not my first language
      you need to be using TB 3.55 CFW v2
      DOWNLOAD HERE

    69. CaptainCPS-X
      07-02-2012
      05:27 PM
      69

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      lol ....
      Now, you come here just to "lol" at what I wrote. You definitely act like a 10 year old kid.

      Grow up. Your life must be sad if you're actually like this outside the "internet" with everyone you meet.

      Go to your drama section, where you belong. You deteriorate every thread you participate in.

      SeeYa!

    70. GregoryRasputin
      07-02-2012
      06:16 PM
      70

      Originally Posted by CaptainCPS-X View Post
      Now, you come here just to "lol" at what I wrote. You definitely act like a 10 year old kid.

      Grow up. Your life must be sad if you're actually like this outside the "internet" with everyone you meet.

      Go to your drama section, where you belong. You deteriorate every thread you participate in.

      SeeYa!
      lol what a stroppy little boy, all butt hurt, because you misunderstood something i wrote.

      I visit every post, that's my job as a moderator, i seen your cry baby post and it made me laugh, i think if you are going to be this sensitive, you should perhaps stay off the internet.

    71. donglehater
      07-02-2012
      06:19 PM
      71

      We should all stay off the webernet............its full of cyber bullies.

    72. CaptainCPS-X
      07-02-2012
      06:39 PM
      72

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      lol what a stroppy little boy, all butt hurt, because you misunderstood something i wrote.

      I visit every post, that's my job as a moderator, i seen your cry baby post and it made me laugh, i think if you are going to be this sensitive, you should perhaps stay off the internet.
      I haven't "misunderstood" anything, what facts support your statements?

      How do you prove I am "crying", where are the facts?
      How do you prove I "misunderstood" something, facts?

      Just because you say something doesn't mean it IS the truth. A piece of Ice cannot be hot just because you say it.

      Btw, the "cry baby post" you are talking about was completely on topic, I included a 'post script' just so if some users don't see me around much, they understood why, it didn't have anything of humor in it.

      Who is the one misunderstanding the purpose of things here?

      I support my statements with facts, if I am wrong or unsure I say it, and I accept it, but if I know I'm saying the truth I will keep my head high.

      PS: To all the users expecting on-topic discussion, I apologize for this, but I will not let someone with "vBulletin privileges" to distort my messages and my image.

      SeeYa!

    73. donglehater
      07-02-2012
      06:52 PM
      73

      Originally Posted by CaptainCPS-X View Post
      Just because you say something doesn't mean it IS the truth. A piece of Ice cannot be hot just because you say it.



      Im just saying.........

    74. CaptainCPS-X
      07-02-2012
      06:56 PM
      74

      Originally Posted by donglehater View Post
      Im just saying.........
      LOL xD, man you just made my day! I guess I have to reconsider the analogy xD

      EDIT: I will even stop arguing, I will go have some fun now =), I got tired of all the drama.

      Peace out!

      SeeYa!

    75. GregoryRasputin
      07-02-2012
      07:13 PM
      75

      Originally Posted by CaptainCPS-X View Post
      I haven't "misunderstood" anything, what facts support your statements?

      How do you prove I am "crying", where are the facts?
      How do you prove I "misunderstood" something, facts?

      Just because you say something doesn't mean it IS the truth. A piece of Ice cannot be hot just because you say it.

      Btw, the "cry baby post" you are talking about was completely on topic, I included a 'post script' just so if some users don't see me around much, they understood why, it didn't have anything of humor in it.

      Who is the one misunderstanding the purpose of things here?

      I support my statements with facts, if I am wrong or unsure I say it, and I accept it, but if I know I'm saying the truth I will keep my head high.

      PS: To all the users expecting on-topic discussion, I apologize for this, but I will not let someone with "vBulletin privileges" to distort my messages and my image.

      SeeYa!
      Well stop acting like a butt hurt retard and i wont treat you like a butt hurt retard.

      As far as your facts, they are firmly stuck up your arse.

      deank is sellout, that is fact, i know that pain you for me to post that about the man you love, but learn to live with it, if you can't, then take your crying ass elsewhere, im sure PS3Crunch could fit just one more retard

    76. donglehater
      07-02-2012
      07:55 PM
      76

    77. CaptainCPS-X
      07-02-2012
      07:58 PM
      77

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
      Well stop acting like a butt hurt retard and i wont treat you like a butt hurt retard.

      As far as your facts, they are firmly stuck up your arse.

      deank is sellout, that is fact, i know that pain you for me to post that about the man you love, but learn to live with it, if you can't, then take your crying ass elsewhere, im sure PS3Crunch could fit just one more retard
      If I am a retard in your book, and my facts are stuck in my arse, facts still gonna be facts.

      Do you even know me? what does PS3Crunch have to do with me anyway?, I do not have anything to do with that place.

      Assumptions lead to perdition and definitely you have issues. Keep calling me names, keep insulting, keep talking non-sense. It will not change what I am.

      Google is your friend, go and do some research before talking about me, like if you actually knew me.

      SeeYa!

    78. GregoryRasputin
      07-03-2012
      02:40 AM
      78

      Originally Posted by CaptainCPS-X View Post
      Google is your friend, go and do some research before talking about me, like if you actually knew me.

      SeeYa!
      Regardless of what you have, does not give you any reason to act like a self entitled prick..

      I do not start arguments with people, but i do respond to the trash people dish out, im not going to sorry for stating what i think of deank and i am not going to apologise for your hurt feelings, because you thought i was insulting you, get your paranoia in check,, then perhaps we will be able to get along.