• Emulators, PS3 Hacks , 04.08.2012

    In other news: Cobra-USB dongles are no longer required to play PlayStation 2 retail discs on your PlayStation 3 thanks to developers mysis and eussNL. What’s even better is this modification does not discriminate — all PlayStation 3 models are fully supported!

    The only requirement is that your PlayStation 3 must be running firmware version 3.55.

    Note: This will not run PlayStation 2 backups. It is the same buggy emulator Sony introduced in firmware update 2.60.

    Getting Playstation 2 Software Emulator working

    Method (on Firmware 3.55, without! Cobra-USB Dongle or Downgrade) for all consoles (fat & slim).

    1. Replace following files on your consoles /dev_flash/
       with the ones included in this archive
       p3dwik-ps2compatfiles.rar
    2. Get into Factory Service Mode (FSM Tool/Dongle)
    3. Insert your Original PS2 Game Disc
    4. It will run.

    Note: Backups wont work. You’re getting the compatibility of the 2.60 software emulator with all of its bugs.

    Download: p3dwik-ps2compatfiles.rar
    Possible compatibility Lists:

    • http://tortuga-cove.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=530
    • http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Emulation#PS2.2FPStwo

    PS2 Compat. flag

    All consoles have hardware information. In GameOS you can call Lv2 Syscall 393 (0×189) sys_sm_get_model
    to get your consoles information. In Lv1/Hypervisor its in the repository nodes sc 0x5B lv1_get_repository_node
    with Parameters “sys”,”hw”,”config” usually noded as “sys.hw.config#0″ or something. These information are mostly
    technical related and not just apply to the software emulator, but the PS3 system as a whole.

    Result examples:

    20 00 00 00 FF FF FE FF <--> a backwards compatible console
    4E 00 FF FF 0A 03 BC 3C <--> on Hypervisor Page
    4E 00 FF FF 01 07 BC BF <--> CECHJ04

    In binary formation:

    0010 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1111 1111 1111 1111 1111 1110 1111 1111 <--> a backwards compatible console
    0100 1110 0000 0000 1111 1111 1111 1111 0000 1010 0000 0011 1011 1100 0011 1100 <--> on Hypervisor Page
    0100 1110 0000 0000 1111 1111 1111 1111 0000 0001 0000 0111 1011 1100 1011 1111 <--> CECHJ04
    0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0100 0000 0000 0000 0000 <--> Mask:Gelic WLAN, new consoles use WLAN via USB
    0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0100 0000 0000 0000 <--> Mask:Backwards Compatible Flag

    XMB checks this flag and if == 0, it will give following message: “This model of the PS3™ system is not compatible with PlayStation®2 format software.”

    [SOURCE]

    Discuss in Forums (167)


  • 167 Comments

    1. Mystic Racer
      08-03-2012
      10:31 PM
      1

      Thanks, finally we can play PS2 Game Disc in all PS3.
      Regards

    2. Pingoo
      08-03-2012
      10:38 PM
      2

      Wow wasn't expecting this at all. So another exclusive dongle feature becomes free :D

    3. BobbyBangin
      08-03-2012
      10:41 PM
      3

      This is pretty big f'n news. And that's coming from somebody who's already got backwards compatibility. Just think, devs and $ony knew this was possible the whole time. Thank you @mysis and @euss NL. Next step, playing PS2 iso's.

    4. Adamsville
      08-03-2012
      11:12 PM
      4

    5. AlexBaka
      08-03-2012
      11:16 PM
      5

      I want to play Patapons on ps3 T_T gimme psp full support!!!!!!

    6. poorguy
      08-03-2012
      11:18 PM
      6

      FRONT PAGE FRONT PAGE FRONT PAGE!!! THIS IS AWESOME!!!!

    7. HulkWogan
      08-03-2012
      11:35 PM
      7

      If you want something done, get hackers to do it for ya, shame on you Sony.

    8. cloudx
      08-03-2012
      11:41 PM
      8

      this is great news !!!!! if only i was on 3.55 i would test kingdom hearts 2 on it since it had a problem way back for ps2 compatibility XD

    9. ryant001
      08-03-2012
      11:48 PM
      9

      Great news indeed but there are some downsides:disk backups won't work and you must be in factory service mode for it to work.
      Nonetheless it's still some very good progress.

    10. uFo125
      08-03-2012
      11:48 PM
      10

      Get into Factory Service Mode (FSM Tool/Dongle)

    11. svenmullet
      08-03-2012
      11:48 PM
      11

      I'ma test this on DEX firmware. No, wait. Still needs FSM? I wonder if glevand's boot_ps2 works with this in 3.55?
      *fires up PS3*

      Hmm, can't delete or overwrite files in dev_flash, even after enabling write access in MM. Don't want to brick another machine, so I'm done testing

    12. LiteSoul
      08-03-2012
      11:49 PM
      12

      Great news, thanks!

      Please someone test a few games, it may have bugs since it's old emulator from 2.60 FW but worth a try
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by ryant001
      Great news indeed but there are some downsides:disk backups won't work and you must be in factory service mode for it to work.
      FSM not big deal really, but disk backups won't work? as in 'a backup disk where you backed up your original disk'? ouch

    13. Atrion
      08-03-2012
      11:52 PM
      13

      FSM is easy enough with with the factory service mode homebrew app and a USB stick to return to normal.

      Do we know what putting the PS3 into FSM actually changes about things that makes this work?

      HAs anyone tied the Boot_PS2 App with this?

    14. ryant001
      08-03-2012
      11:53 PM
      14

      Originally Posted by LiteSoul
      Great news, thanks!

      Please someone test a few games, it may have bugs since it's old emulator from 2.60 FW but worth a try
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************


      FSM not big deal really, but disk backups won't work? ouch
      Yeah it's not really a big deal, just a bit of a pain to switch back and forth from FSM(not all that different from dex upgrade/downgrade)

    15. psyki
      08-04-2012
      12:19 AM
      15

      hell yeah time to bust out all the old ps2 games (i think i use my ps2 more these days anyway so this might be what i need to get back into the ps3)

    16. sharinpark
      08-04-2012
      12:23 AM
      16

      unfortantly, we cannot play with backup only originals :'(

    17. Morphosis
      08-04-2012
      12:33 AM
      17

      Great! it's looks like we don't need cobra dildo! : D

    18. HulkWogan
      08-04-2012
      12:38 AM
      18

      Originally Posted by sharinpark
      unfortantly, we cannot play with backup only originals :'(
      Nothing unfortunate about it, I don't remember sony allowing my bc ps3 to play ps2 backups, find your discs and enjoy.

    19. BobbyBangin
      08-04-2012
      12:39 AM
      19

      Originally Posted by svenmullet
      I'ma test this on DEX firmware. No, wait. Still needs FSM? I wonder if glevand's boot_ps2 works with this in 3.55?
      *fires up PS3*

      Hmm, can't delete or overwrite files in dev_flash, even after enabling write access in MM. Don't want to brick another machine, so I'm done testing
      http://www.ps3hax.net/2011/02/tutori...flash-on-3-55/

    20. Atrion
      08-04-2012
      12:41 AM
      20

      wouldn't it just be simpler to go to multiman, enable dev blind, ftp over the files (or copy from USB) turn off dev blind and your done.

    21. BobbyBangin
      08-04-2012
      12:45 AM
      21

      Originally Posted by Atrion
      wouldn't it just be simpler to go to multiman, enable dev blind, ftp over the files (or copy from USB) turn off dev blind and your done.
      Whatever works for you. I remember I did it once around a year or so ago. I have no idea why I did or what method I used. I just remember that it worked. This method looked familiar to me because I remember using Comgenie to do it.

      I remember how I did it now. I used the dev_blind.pkg

      http://ps3.dashhacks.com/2011/02/14/...s-to-ps3-flash

    22. stussy1
      08-04-2012
      01:39 AM
      22

      Will test soon gota look for my ps2 originals
      Is it all games or some now where is that factory service pkg

    23. Annelies
      08-04-2012
      02:10 AM
      23

      Front paged.

    24. DEFAULTDNB
      08-04-2012
      02:10 AM
      24

      Wow just wow

    25. Crazy-S
      08-04-2012
      02:24 AM
      25

      First i was like but then my brain called and I�ve realized that this is not about playing PS2 Backups

    26. MatrixOne
      08-04-2012
      02:25 AM
      26

      Great News

      no if i unterstand this right, then we have only to patch VSH.self to disable the BC check then we dont need to go into FSM.

    27. rocknard
      08-04-2012
      02:37 AM
      27

      do we need get factory mode?? Is it "DeX"???

    28. DEFAULTDNB
      08-04-2012
      02:43 AM
      28

      SO what is compatibility like? like cobra ps2-soft-emu it cant be 100% (have I misssed it somewhere?)

    29. Annelies
      08-04-2012
      02:43 AM
      29

      Originally Posted by rocknard
      do we need get factory mode?? Is it "DeX"???
      It is not the same as DEX.

      If you require assistance entering/exiting Factory/Service Mode, see this thread: http://www.ps3hax.net/tag/ps3-factory-service-mode/

      Do not attempt to enter Factory/Service Mode on PlayStation 3 consoles above firmware 3.56. There is no way to revert back.

    30. BobbyBangin
      08-04-2012
      02:52 AM
      30

      Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB
      SO what is compatibility like? like cobra ps2-soft-emu it cant be 100% (have I misssed it somewhere?)
      Originally Posted by BobbyBangin
      I have the 80 gig model. It's the CECHE01. I like it better because my CECHA01 went down with YLOD and my CECHH01 was way too loud. The 80 Gig was originally released as the MGS4 Package. The CECHA01 uses the PS2's CPU while the CECHE01 uses partial emulation so the CECHA01 has just marginally better backwards compatibility.
      Originally Posted by Persian McLovin

      Nah no way bro...I have compared A LOT of PS2 games running on both systems and there are a lot of glitches,
      framerate issues,texture problems, animation problems etc without the Emotion Engine chip.

      Tekken Tag Tournament is a great example:

      60gb: 60fps
      80gb: 10fps (no lie)...

      There is a huge difference in quality with many games.

    31. Sidewinder_2011
      08-04-2012
      02:56 AM
      31

      Originally Posted by svenmullet
      I'ma test this on DEX firmware. No, wait. Still needs FSM? I wonder if glevand's boot_ps2 works with this in 3.55?
      *fires up PS3*

      Hmm, can't delete or overwrite files in dev_flash, even after enabling write access in MM. Don't want to brick another machine, so I'm done testing
      the only way i can see being able to over write flash with the files is to use mfw builder and put the files into the pup that way . then the files will over write

    32. MatrixOne
      08-04-2012
      03:09 AM
      32

      i remember on 3.41 there was a tool to set dev_flash in Dev_bind or somthink

      i think it was Mount_Alejandro an then you are able to write to flash.

      at moment the files they have post to replace is the Softemu from 2.60

      so we know that from 3.60 there is a new PS2 emu to play the PS2 classics so there must be a way to replace this file so i still wait bevor i replace any file.

    33. zackandjon
      08-04-2012
      03:09 AM
      33

      Well I read the title and again I got too excited... I love the fact that you can now play your own PS2 games on your PS3 (any model, how it should be), I have been waiting a long time for the playing of backups. Even though this doesn't allow backups to play I am grateful for your progression, any progress is better than none.
      I have most of my PS2 games backed up on my ps2 Hdd, but some of them (GTA:SA for example) are modded, so I like to play with things mixed up a bit.
      That is an ultimate goal (in my opinion) of this scene, being able to do what you want to with the PS3 that you the consumer bought, adding plots, weapons, characters, you name it, creativity and fantasy bring out some of the most interesting and the most unwanted things (It can't be helped where there is one there is another, you know the whole balance thing Yin/Yang). Anywho to sum up... A step in the right direction so thank you.

    34. xXRagnarokXx
      08-04-2012
      03:25 AM
      34

      Can u give us a tuitorial ho wto do it i try all the method on the pud but icant change the fash ^^,

    35. Annelies
      08-04-2012
      03:36 AM
      35

      Originally Posted by xXRagnarokXx
      Can u give us a tuitorial ho wto do it i try all the method on the pud but icant change the fash ^^,
      Try this.

    36. uncharted angel
      08-04-2012
      03:37 AM
      36

      how to run games ??????
      where i replace dev-flash????
      what is factory mode?????

    37. rocknard
      08-04-2012
      03:38 AM
      37

      Originally Posted by Annelies
      It is not the same as DEX.

      If you require assistance entering/exiting Factory/Service Mode, see this thread: http://www.ps3hax.net/tag/ps3-factory-service-mode/

      Do not attempt to enter Factory/Service Mode on PlayStation 3 consoles above firmware 3.56. There is no way to revert back.

      thx a lot. Can i revert to normal mode?? o FSM is activated when i execute in xmb?? Is't dangerous for my ps3?? brick?

    38. DEFAULTDNB
      08-04-2012
      03:41 AM
      38

      Originally Posted by BobbyBangin

      Tekken Tag Tournament is a great example:

      60gb: 60fps
      80gb: 10fps (no lie)...

      There is a huge difference in quality with many games.

      Wholly testicals.

    39. tjhooker73
      08-04-2012
      03:50 AM
      39

      Originally Posted by uncharted angel
      how to run games ??????
      where i replace dev-flash????
      what is factory mode?????
      Dude. Really.... Go to the ****ing Ps3DevWiki and figure it out.

    40. Annelies
      08-04-2012
      03:52 AM
      40

      Originally Posted by rocknard
      thx a lot. Can i revert to normal mode?? o FSM is activated when i execute in xmb?? Is't dangerous for my ps3?? brick?
      Make sure to follow these instructions very carefully when entering Factory/Service Mode with FSM Tool v0.2.

      Entering Factory/Service Mode:

      1. Install the appropriate package file for your system: FactoryServiceMode.gnpdrm.pkg for CEX and
      FactoryServiceMode.pkg for DEX. Leave the USB Flash Drive in the PS3.

      2. Run the application and listen for a single beep and you should enter Factory/Service Mode automatically.

      Exiting Factory/Service Mode:

      1. Rename and copy the file named Lv2diag_exit.self on the root of your USB flash drive to Lv2diag.self
      Note: This release simply exits FSM. Do NOT use the RSOD Lv2Diag released earlier unless you have RSOD.

      2. Place the USB Flash Drive in the USB slot furthest to the right side of the PS3.

      3. Restart the PS3. You should be out of Factory/Service Mode.

      Is it dangerous for your PS3?

      If you manager to brick your PlayStation 3 when entering Factory/Service Mode, you have one option unless you own a hardware flasher. You could use this "brick fix" released by Gitbrew: http://www.ps3hax.net/2011/10/releas...-55-and-lower/

      If that fix does not work, you will be in a tight predicament and will need to buy a hardware flasher such as E3 Flasher.

    41. xXRagnarokXx
      08-04-2012
      03:53 AM
      41

      Why the controler not working?

    42. Annelies
      08-04-2012
      03:55 AM
      42

      Originally Posted by uncharted angel
      how to run games ??????
      where i replace dev-flash????
      what is factory mode?????
      You can only run retail titles. (Official releases purchased from stores such as Gamestop)

      You can find your Dev_Flash folder via FTP. It is a very sensitive folder so take extreme caution when tampering with it's contents.

      Factory/Service Mode is a mode Sony uses when doing corporate-business stuff. I don't know.It's just a mode that's there. You need to enter it to play PS2 titles.

    43. Cheesethief
      08-04-2012
      04:00 AM
      43

      I love how this post says "All PS3's." The compatibility is identical to Cobra, so if you have a non-bc console, you will not be getting much functionality at all.

    44. xXRagnarokXx
      08-04-2012
      04:01 AM
      44

      The controlle is not working

    45. Atrion
      08-04-2012
      04:02 AM
      45

      Originally Posted by xXRagnarokXx
      The controlle is not working
      Haven't tried this yet myself but perhaps you will need to connect it via the cord...

    46. xXRagnarokXx
      08-04-2012
      04:05 AM
      46

      I Already try it with usb i have 3 controller not of them works

    47. rocknard
      08-04-2012
      04:05 AM
      47

      Originally Posted by Annelies
      Make sure to follow these instructions very carefully when entering Factory/Service Mode with FSM Tool v0.2.

      Entering Factory/Service Mode:

      1. Install the appropriate package file for your system: FactoryServiceMode.gnpdrm.pkg for CEX and
      FactoryServiceMode.pkg for DEX. Leave the USB Flash Drive in the PS3.

      2. Run the application and listen for a single beep and you should enter Factory/Service Mode automatically.

      Exiting Factory/Service Mode:

      1. Rename and copy the file named Lv2diag_exit.self on the root of your USB flash drive to Lv2diag.self
      Note: This release simply exits FSM. Do NOT use the RSOD Lv2Diag released earlier unless you have RSOD.

      2. Place the USB Flash Drive in the USB slot furthest to the right side of the PS3.

      3. Restart the PS3. You should be out of Factory/Service Mode.

      Is it dangerous for your PS3?

      If you manager to brick your PlayStation 3 when entering Factory/Service Mode, you have one option unless you own a hardware flasher. You could use this "brick fix" released by Gitbrew: http://www.ps3hax.net/2011/10/releas...-55-and-lower/

      If that fix does not work, you will be in a tight predicament and will need to buy a hardware flasher such as E3 Flasher.

      thx for the acclaration. the link of githbrew don't work. where can i download the .pup 3.55 and Lv2diag??

    48. popman
      08-04-2012
      04:06 AM
      48

      why do you need service mode?
      http://www.ps3devwiki.com/files/Othe...c/boot_ps2.pkg

    49. Atrion
      08-04-2012
      04:08 AM
      49

      Do you know what the service mode changes that allows it to work with it but not from the normal running mode?

    50. popman
      08-04-2012
      04:18 AM
      50

      Originally Posted by Atrion
      Do you know what the service mode changes that allows it to work with it but not from the normal running mode?
      it doesn't check the disk to see if it can play.
      the tool I posted works too.

    51. MatrixOne
      08-04-2012
      04:24 AM
      51

      with boot_PS2 you dont need to go into FSM but the games i try starts and then crash and go back to XMB

    52. jaga
      08-04-2012
      04:25 AM
      52

      How about use original PS2 dex ps3gen backups via usb bd emulation on dex consoles?

    53. 8E068EDFA0C8DEA3
      08-04-2012
      05:00 AM
      53

      mehh because it plays only original disk and no back up...

      but on the bright side great to see another dongle dildo knocked down. keep up the good work!

    54. godot360
      08-04-2012
      05:14 AM
      54

      Maybe devs can use newer emu files from 3.6x frimware (mc_iso_spu_module.self , me_iso_for_ps2emu.self , sv_iso_for_ps2emu.self) decrypted and encrypted with 3.55 keys.

    55. stussy1
      08-04-2012
      05:26 AM
      55

      got into service mode with kmeaw now cant get out dam

      nevermind got out instead of this Lv2diag.self had to do this Lv2diag

    56. jalaneme
      08-04-2012
      05:27 AM
      56

      Originally Posted by BobbyBangin
      This is pretty big f'n news. And that's coming from somebody who's already got backwards compatibility. Just think, devs and $ony knew this was possible the whole time. Thank you mysis and eussNL. Next step, playing PS2 iso's.
      Of course sony knew, the only reason sony took it out was because they wanted people to buy the hd collections and digital downloads from the store!, i hope in the future the wii u gets a simular hack as they have decided to lock out gc backward compatibility on thier new wii u console! Nintendo saw what sony were doing and decided to do the same, why let people play for free when you can charge people again to play the same games they already own again? And most people are gullible to do so even going so far to defend sony and nintendo when confronted.

      As for this feature hopefully this gets integrated into multiman just like the ps1 emulator was in the past, it has the same compatibility as pcsx2 on the pc which is just as bad.

    57. Cheesethief
      08-04-2012
      05:35 AM
      57

      Originally Posted by Annelies
      Factory/Service Mode is a mode Sony uses when doing corporate-business stuff. I don't know.It's just a mode that's there. You need to enter it to play PS2 titles.
      Err, Factory/Service mode is exactly what the name implies. It is not there for corporate reasons, it is there to aid repairing bricked consoles or otherwise testing new consoles at the factory.

      Commonsense via Tapatalk 2

    58. samson
      08-04-2012
      05:41 AM
      58

      Just try replacing the dev_flash files and the LV2patcher and the new patch booting ps2 games XD but no audio via hdmi

    59. Annelies
      08-04-2012
      05:41 AM
      59

      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      Err, Factory/Service mode is exactly what the name implies. It is not there for corporate reasons, it is there to aid repairing bricked consoles or otherwise testing new consoles at the factory.

      Commonsense via Tapatalk 2
      Cool.

      IHonestlyDontCareIWasGettingMoreImportantInformationOutOfTheWayOkay via Tapatalk 2

    60. jalaneme
      08-04-2012
      05:41 AM
      60

      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      I love how this post says "All PS3's." The compatibility is identical to Cobra, so if you have a non-bc console, you will not be getting much functionality at all.
      At least we know now what cobra was trying to sell us.

    61. Brenza
      08-04-2012
      05:50 AM
      61

      Thank you!!! :D
      This is awesome, do you know if it works on debug ps3?

    62. jaga
      08-04-2012
      05:58 AM
      62

      Originally Posted by Brenza
      Thank you!!! :D
      This is awesome, do you know if it works on debug ps3?
      yep it works with original PS2 disks,
      but i want try ps3gen and usb bd emu.

    63. raddog
      08-04-2012
      06:15 AM
      63

      its not working properly evertime i start my ps2 game in fsm,my controller dont work so needs a little more research.

    64. jhauth11
      08-04-2012
      06:28 AM
      64

      Is it regain unlocked or will only pal games work on pal and NTSC on NTSC

    65. Rautz
      08-04-2012
      07:25 AM
      65

      Can we downgrade a DEX while in FSM? Im talking about DEX 3.7+ or whatever the better compatibility firmware is back to 3.55 via downgrader pup and then exit FSM?

      [MENTION=9165]viperturbo[/MENTION] mentioned in his thread in regards to Rayman which was buggy as on 2.60

      Originally Posted by viperturbo
      On 3.72 works perfectly well on the slim, on 3.55 stil as some glitchs, but it is well playable, lets say a rate of 96% on 3.55?
      Hopefully viperturbo or anyone else with a flasher that reads my post could be a good soul by testing it and letting me/us know if its possible or not.



      EDIT disregard my post. It only worked for vipers "magic" slim and no one elses

    66. jaga
      08-04-2012
      07:31 AM
      66

      Originally Posted by Rautz
      Can we downgrade a DEX while in FSM? Im talking about DEX 3.7+ or whatever the better compatibility firmware is back to 3.55 via downgrader pup and then exit FSM?
      on DEX u can change any dex firmwares at xmb,
      but if u want cfw355dex u need first 355downgrade.pup and then cfw355dex (itskamel rogero et)

    67. StealthLord
      08-04-2012
      07:36 AM
      67

      Welcome. I have a problem. The emulator works, but not the HDMI cable. This controller does not work. Do you have any ideas? I have a PS3 SLIM from 3.55 DEX Rogero v2. I am using the FSM application

    68. Crazy-S
      08-04-2012
      07:39 AM
      68

      So, I don�t understand that... does this only activate PS2 compatibility for Non 60GB models or does this allow to play burned PS2 backups(or PS2 Backups via Manager)?

    69. bearmon2010
      08-04-2012
      08:43 AM
      69

      Originally Posted by Crazy-S
      So, I don�t understand that... does this only activate PS2 compatibility for Non 60GB models or does this allow to play burned PS2 backups(or PS2 Backups via Manager)?
      Please read it again.. It said only Original PS3 games are working for now. What does that mean ? Only retail ps2 discs works. No backup/isos works for now. Maybe Multiman will release the next one, who knows. Hope it helps.

    70. bubbleboy
      08-04-2012
      08:45 AM
      70

      PSP support?

    71. jennys
      08-04-2012
      08:45 AM
      71

      Originally Posted by 8E068EDFA0C8DEA3
      mehh because it plays only original disk and no back up...

      but on the bright side great to see another dongle dildo knocked down. keep up the good work!
      Knocked down, but not out. We're still missing it's other vital feature; PSP emulation. Either way this is cool.

      How does this emulator compare to PCSX2 (I'm OFW so can't test)?

    72. bearmon2010
      08-04-2012
      09:09 AM
      72

      Originally Posted by bubbleboy
      PSP support?
      Can you read what it say ? No psp support. Only PS2 emulation support this time. Please read it more carefully.

    73. Esppiral
      08-04-2012
      09:22 AM
      73

      The controllers don't work :/

    74. MatrixOne
      08-04-2012
      09:27 AM
      74

      The controler works you have to connect the controler with the USB cable then it works.

    75. raddog
      08-04-2012
      09:56 AM
      75

      Originally Posted by MatrixOne
      The controler works you have to connect the controler with the USB cable then it works.
      nope it doesnt it onlys works for certain games......and its not working for my game.

    76. SuperDre
      08-04-2012
      09:58 AM
      76

      Originally Posted by jalaneme
      Of course sony knew, the only reason sony took it out was because they wanted people to buy the hd collections and digital downloads from the store!

      As for this feature hopefully this gets integrated into multiman just like the ps1 emulator was in the past, it has the same compatibility as pcsx2 on the pc which is just as bad.
      Yes Sony knew, but have you seen the compatibility list with this version of the emulator for non BC versions? it's small VERY small, and in that state I agree with Sony for NOT releasing the emulator to non-BC PS3's as it would mean people start to ***** about the 'BC' not working on most of their titles.. If more time is spend on improving the emulator (which I think has already been done seeing more and more PS2 games arriving at PSN as I'm being told) then it might be possible to release it.. But then again, the PS1 emulator which is available isn't that great either, it also doesn't work with all original PS1 games correctly and it doesn't do any HD upscaling/improving like PC emulators as Bleem or PCSX1 do..
      Now, the only thing you really could blame Sony for IMHO is not spending enough time on improving the PS1 emulator AND PS2 emulator (my god, how much money would that mean, only 1 or 2 developers which is about $100K per year and it would mean people would also be able to buy the PS2 discs in store which is also extra income)..

    77. alienkid
      08-04-2012
      10:16 AM
      77

      Awesome work [MENTION=169836]mysis[/MENTION] and [MENTION=131344]euss[/MENTION] !

      What a hellava month for the PS3 Scene.

    78. Blaz0r
      08-04-2012
      10:47 AM
      78

      I came!

      I hope that this emulator will get improved so we will be able to run the Backups! I really REALLY NEEEEED TO PLAY RATCHET AND CLANK 1-3!!!! :D

    79. advocatusdiaboli
      08-04-2012
      11:08 AM
      79

      But is there a way to launch .ELF files?

      Like
      ---
      Open PS2 Loader
      uLaunch.ELF
      homebrew
      ---

    80. krillen
      08-04-2012
      11:25 AM
      80

      This is cool that all PS3 models cam play PS2 games with the buggy Sony emulator. It would be great news for me if not for me having 2 PS3s one of witch is a old 60GB fully backwards with all PS2 games model. Still great news to wake up to none the less.

    81. Brenza
      08-04-2012
      11:57 AM
      81

      It down't work for me, i'm on a one of the first model of slim (2.70 min ver) running 3.55 DEX cfw
      I replaced the files in dev_flash, i put ps3 in fsm and i plugged the game in

      The controller got deassociated (it was using the cable) and there's no way to use it, i tried with 4 (original) duealshok3\sixaxis

    82. Grasshopper
      08-04-2012
      11:59 AM
      82

      Originally Posted by popman
      why do you need service mode?
      http://www.ps3devwiki.com/files/Othe...c/boot_ps2.pkg
      Does this work?

    83. fuzzydunlop
      08-04-2012
      12:23 PM
      83

      Can't wait to play GTA:San Andreas!!!! Thanks guys!

    84. MCLUB
      08-04-2012
      12:23 PM
      84

      Great News for PS3 3.60 Keys and "PlayStation 2 Software Compatibility" True Blue and Cobra Dongle by by... on never see again USB DONGLE f*ck money maker

    85. Esppiral
      08-04-2012
      12:26 PM
      85

      Originally Posted by Grasshopper
      Does this work?
      No, it does not.

    86. zero233
      08-04-2012
      12:36 PM
      86

      great find. but this is just one feature made free from the cobra dongle. havent seen a cfw with 100% diskless support like they do. still the best dongle/cfw out and well worth the money.

    87. stuck?
      08-04-2012
      01:31 PM
      87

      Groovy news and big thanks mysis and @euss

      For all of the negative Nancy's:

      Progress is progress. Rome wasn't built over night.....Though some people may want to believe that.

    88. H3avyRa1n
      08-04-2012
      01:46 PM
      88

      great job peeps!

    89. Inali
      08-04-2012
      01:52 PM
      89

      This most certainly WILL boot PS2 backups. Just do the same as the B/C units do (like mine).

      Two options to boot backups:

      -Keep PS3 cover off, insert a legit PS2 game with a large TOC that is the same format, such as DVD5 (single layer dvd), DVD9 (dual layer DVD) or CD. Then just remove the magnet on the disc while on XMB, replace with the backup and click on the game on XMB. Bam, loads.

      -Disconnect the sensor on the Blu Ray drive and solder wires from the outside of the PS3 to the eject/load motor, with the other side attached to a 2 way middle off switch and a pack of AA's also attached to the switch. One way ejects discs and the other loads them. Same method as above inside XMB. My 60GB PS3 is set up like this. I can make a video if needed.

      VERY easy and this method will play legit PS1/2 games of ANY region and also any downloaded ISO's from ANY region on PS1/2. Good luck folks~

      PM me with questions.

    90. samson
      08-04-2012
      01:57 PM
      90

      Originally Posted by Esppiral
      No, it does not.
      yes it does, all i am doing..

      1, replace the dev_flash files
      2, launch LV2 Patcher (with new ps2 patch)
      3, boot from disc or use boot_ps2.pkg, both work

      gonna try my 007 uLaunch.elf swapdisc laters XD

    91. bubbleboy
      08-04-2012
      01:59 PM
      91

      DEAD

      http://www.cobra-usb.com/

      DEAD

    92. Hells Guardian
      08-04-2012
      02:07 PM
      92

      Originally Posted by samson
      yes it does, all i am doing..

      1, replace the dev_flash files
      2, launch LV2 Patcher (with new ps2 patch)
      3, boot from disc or use boot_ps2.pkg, both work

      gonna try my 007 uLaunch.elf swapdisc laters XD
      New LV2 Patcher? is this public? and is it possible to apply the patch with MFW builder instead of running a tool?

    93. samson
      08-04-2012
      02:23 PM
      93

      Originally Posted by Hells Guardian
      New LV2 Patcher? is this public?
      well old lv2patcher and new patch.
      http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Talk:..._on_non_BC.27s

      patch
      http://pastie.org/private/jp8zhvuocjz95cfrjm0uzg

      Originally Posted by Hells Guardian
      and is it possible to apply the patch with MFW builder instead of running a tool?
      dont know dude, i've never messed about with MFW Builder.

    94. StealthLord
      08-04-2012
      03:05 PM
      94

      samson - lv2patcher freezes DEX consoles (that is to say CEXtoDEX) with firmware 3.55 from Rogero. Do you have any idea? When you start a black screen and the console is all suspended.

    95. alienjiz420
      08-04-2012
      03:18 PM
      95

      Originally Posted by samson
      well old lv2patcher and new patch.
      http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Talk:..._on_non_BC.27s

      patch
      http://pastie.org/private/jp8zhvuocjz95cfrjm0uzg
      hmm it seems as though patch 4 isn't included in the pkg download. do we need to depkg it and repkg it with the new patch?

    96. Annelies
      08-04-2012
      03:28 PM
      96

      Originally Posted by jennys
      How does this emulator compare to PCSX2 (I'm OFW so can't test)?
      No contest.

      PCSX2>

      This emulator will never hold a candle to PCSX2.

    97. samson
      08-04-2012
      03:35 PM
      97

      Originally Posted by alienjiz420
      hmm it seems as though patch 4 isn't included in the pkg download. do we need to depkg it and repkg it with the new patch?
      no just install lv2 patcher , make a new .txt file call it patch4.txt pastie the pastie save and copy/ftp to dev_hdd0/game/LV2000000/USRDIR.


      [MENTION=235354]StealthLord[/MENTION] no idea why its not working on the converted cex to dex, maybe need the dev_flash files from dex 2.60?!

    98. alienjiz420
      08-04-2012
      03:53 PM
      98

      Originally Posted by samson
      no just install lv2 patcher , make a new .txt file call it patch4.txt pastie the pastie save and copy/ftp to dev_hdd0/game/LV2000000/USRDIR.
      thanks, I thought of doing that but whenever I went that little backdoor with other things in the past it didn't work half the time. I ended up just finding an old download of d0zspatcher and it rebuild the pkg perfectly. I tried to boot Legacy of Kain: Defiance and got up to the memory card screen perfectly but as others have said the controller doesn't work and it's plugged in and I have a slim. it was all worth it just to see that playstation 2 logo on my ps3 haha

      EDIT: tried to boot Swap Magic 3 Plus just for fun, definitely a no-go haha. oh and you have to hard power the ps3 to get back which if you have a slim means physically unplugging it, kind of an inconvenience but its all good

    99. sewershark
      08-04-2012
      05:22 PM
      99

      i have tons of ps2 isos that i can play and load perfectly with the cobra dongle ,got it for just 30$ shipping included ,what is exactly people so happy about when they will have to buy original disks every time they want to play a ps2 game ?assuming you will pay a ps2 disk 5$ from ebay +5$ shipping =10$
      3 original ps2 games = 3 ps2 games=30$ (plus ps3 lens maintenance for reading ps2 games)
      1 cobra dongle = 2016 games=30$ (no ps3 lens maintenance required )



      reading earlier posts on this thread seems everyone just have the need to hate something ,in this case a usb dongle ?! keep on hating it

      as for me i am going to keep mine till i hear about loading ps2 isos considering that did not become available on ps3 even till now at the end of its Career and ps4 is going to be released

    100. willemse21
      08-04-2012
      05:35 PM
      100

      This scene is full of suprises thnx for your hard work

    101. alienjiz420
      08-04-2012
      06:11 PM
      101

      Originally Posted by sewershark
      i have tons of ps2 isos that i can play and load perfectly with the cobra dongle ,got it for just 30$ shipping included ,what is exactly people so happy about when they will have to buy original disks every time they want to play a ps2 game ?assuming you will pay a ps2 disk 5$ from ebay +5$ shipping =10$
      3 original ps2 games = 3 ps2 games=30$ (plus ps3 lens maintenance for reading ps2 games)
      1 cobra dongle = 2016 games=30$ (no ps3 lens maintenance required )



      reading earlier posts on this thread seems everyone just have the need to hate something ,in this case a usb dongle ?! keep on hating it

      as for me i am going to keep mine till i hear about loading ps2 isos considering that did not become available on ps3 even till now at the end of its Career and ps4 is going to be released
      some people already have many original discs that they can't play due to the lack of backwards compatibility. I duno what ps3 model you're using that you can play games "perfectly" but the ps2emu cobra is using is the same one that sony made originally, which means most games shouldn't even boot or if they do they should have lots of graphical glitches. people choose to hate on the cobra because they believe in a free scene, and also because the cobra devs stole most of their code from psgroove and then just found ways to re-enable features that sony already had in there, minus .iso support and +4gb files from external.

    102. Jdpieeyed
      08-04-2012
      10:47 PM
      102

      I for one have read through this post and it has gone from a good discovery, and an opening to a better solution to a tit for tat about dongles, and costs, and drm this or that. Really who gives a ****, this is an opportunity to learn something maybe progress this to be more compatible and useful to everyone bc or not. This topic is about ps2 software compatibility and how to use it. So, i think ill get it started back on track.Questions are always good keeps it moving and gets us to the solution. My question, how can we figure the way to implementing a xmb ps2 emulator that uses the same boot structure as being placed into factory service mode. Its obvious there are patches that are applied this way to do as such, most likely what cobra has figured out. Is it possible to do. Another thing i would want to look at is the last time sony made an update in a firmware update and possibly if in key range extract it and apply it. I think its a start and am more then willing to help in anyway.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      wanted to add a thought, what about the tiff exploit by usb to get psx backups to work, could this be another helpful choice to bring us that much closer?

    103. superfurry
      08-04-2012
      11:25 PM
      103

      Bollocks to going into factory mode to play a ps2 game. Not worth the hassle just stick the old ps2 on and play to be fair but it's s*it hot what they done making it


      Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

    104. MIETEK
      08-05-2012
      03:37 AM
      104

      hello i just registered to give yo something to test.

      GO HERE:
      http://www.tortuga-cove.com/forums/v...8&p=4234#p4234

      Open PS2 Loader On Non-Backwards Compatible PS3

      now that Ps2 is unlocekd EVERYONE PLEASE TEST THIS SPECIAL DVD PREPARED FOR PS3 , POST RESULTS.

      AND I MEAN EVERYONE !!!!

      IF YOU PUT OPEN PS2 LOADER in "DVD"or "PS2ISO" (dont remember) ON CONSOLE >> When you run it >>MULTIMAN SAYS COBRA USB DONGLE ONLY !
      try the NEW METHOD and try SWAP MAGIC also.
      And yes this is a bit old.

    105. sewershark
      08-05-2012
      03:47 AM
      105

      Originally Posted by alienjiz420
      some people already have many original discs that they can't play due to the lack of backwards compatibility. I duno what ps3 model you're using that you can play games "perfectly" but the ps2emu cobra is using is the same one that sony made originally, which means most games shouldn't even boot or if they do they should have lots of graphical glitches. people choose to hate on the cobra because they believe in a free scene, and also because the cobra devs stole most of their code from psgroove and then just found ways to re-enable features that sony already had in there, minus .iso support and +4gb files from external.
      i have a ps3 60gb and ps2 games work on it even better than what they did on ps2 consoles ,i think anyone you are talking about that have many of ps2 games can have even more of them if they can download backups from the net,regarding the code they stole . . . might be true . . but they also were the Only Ones that added the benefits of loading ps2 isos feature that no one was able to do in All Those Years and if the cost of that is only 30$ its really cheap specially considering what that dongle offers ,2016 games that you can download any of them any time and load it to your ps3

    106. alienjiz420
      08-05-2012
      06:13 AM
      106

      Originally Posted by sewershark
      i have a ps3 60gb and ps2 games work on it even better than what they did on ps2 consoles ,i think anyone you are talking about that have many of ps2 games can have even more of them if they can download backups from the net,regarding the code they stole . . . might be true . . but they also were the Only Ones that added the benefits of loading ps2 isos feature that no one was able to do in All Those Years and if the cost of that is only 30$ its really cheap specially considering what that dongle offers ,2016 games that you can download any of them any time and load it to your ps3
      that explains it. you're speaking as if everyone has a 60gb ps3. yours has backwards compatibility and the closest to 100% game compatibility for that matter. if ps2 support was what someone was after, cobra would do nothing for the majority of people who have ps3s with neither the Emotion Engine nor the graphics synthesizer built in. also I would be careful mentioning piracy on these forums, most places don't take kindly to it and here shouldn't be any exception

    107. Shezed
      08-05-2012
      08:27 AM
      107

      Originally Posted by alienjiz420
      that explains it. you're speaking as if everyone has a 60gb ps3. yours has backwards compatibility and the closest to 100% game compatibility for that matter. if ps2 support was what someone was after, cobra would do nothing for the majority of people who have ps3s with neither the Emotion Engine nor the graphics synthesizer built in. also I would be careful mentioning piracy on these forums, most places don't take kindly to it and here shouldn't be any exception
      Great another anti-piracy brainwashed sheeple. anyway i hope they will keep working on improving the emu, i'm still quite happy with my cobra dongle though i can play ps2 iso's with it. if companies would just include dual-audio as a standard i wouldn't even need this stuff. Unfortunatly we need to rely on piracy and profit losses to force companies to actually listen to us consumers... such a shame

    108. csaraiva
      08-05-2012
      09:24 AM
      108

      It only does everything.... thank for this, some years waiting for this...

    109. qlum
      08-05-2012
      10:54 AM
      109

      shame this came after I upgraded my pc because I doubt its better than emulating the ps2 on the pc @1080p on full speed.

    110. Annelies
      08-05-2012
      11:20 AM
      110

      Originally Posted by qlum
      I doubt its better than emulating the ps2 on the pc @1080p on full speed.
      It's not and it never will be but at least it's something, right? I think sometime down the line it will get worked on by Scene developers and maybe one day most games will at least be playable.

    111. alienjiz420
      08-05-2012
      01:32 PM
      111

      Originally Posted by Shezed
      Great another anti-piracy brainwashed sheeple. anyway i hope they will keep working on improving the emu, i'm still quite happy with my cobra dongle though i can play ps2 iso's with it. if companies would just include dual-audio as a standard i wouldn't even need this stuff. Unfortunatly we need to rely on piracy and profit losses to force companies to actually listen to us consumers... such a shame
      I never once mentioned MY stance on piracy I simply stated the forum's. even though its died down since the egohot vs sony battle sony employees still browse these sites. it doesn't matter what you do on your own time with your own equipment just don't go around advertising it I guess right now the mods don't care I just really don't wanna see another major takedown of a bunch of sites where everyone has to then find mirrors

    112. SuperDre
      08-05-2012
      01:48 PM
      112

      Originally Posted by Shezed
      Unfortunatly we need to rely on piracy and profit losses to force companies to actually listen to us consumers... such a shame
      BS, you're just trying to sweettalk your use of pirated games..No-one is forcing you to even buy and play the games made by these companies. Without these companies you wouldn't even have (great) games to play, and making AAA games costs money, A LOT of money. There is NO good reason for playing pirated games you don't own.

    113. stevorkz
      08-05-2012
      01:56 PM
      113

      Originally Posted by Shezed
      Great another anti-piracy brainwashed sheeple.
      Careful what you say about the "sheeples". The sheeple pay for good video games so that game companies have money to make more good games so that you can download and play them too. If it werent for the "sheeple", there would be no video games

    114. sewershark
      08-05-2012
      02:06 PM
      114

      Originally Posted by alienjiz420
      that explains it. you're speaking as if everyone has a 60gb ps3. yours has backwards compatibility and the closest to 100% game compatibility for that matter. if ps2 support was what someone was after, cobra would do nothing for the majority of people who have ps3s with neither the Emotion Engine nor the graphics synthesizer built in. also I would be careful mentioning piracy on these forums, most places don't take kindly to it and here shouldn't be any exception

      60gb ps3 are 100% compatible with ps2 games but there is other ps3 that can work correctly with ps2 with a rate of 100% to 70% excluding 60gb ones and those ps3 are about half of the fats

      any one can afford a ps3 60gb from ebay at a really low price or any other fat ps3 that have bc rate mentioned above . . . i am sure this is a better idea than playing with a slim , oem ps2 discs and this almost useless hack that is useful only for testing or debugging purposes specially on slims and less worth than the cheap (30$) dongle if you have any 70% or above BC ps3

    115. statizz
      08-05-2012
      02:11 PM
      115

      will it also worked with backups and burned iso's or just original games ?

    116. Annelies
      08-05-2012
      02:28 PM
      116

      Originally Posted by statizz
      will it also worked with backups and burned iso's or just original games ?
      This will only run -- or at least try to -- retail titles.

    117. alienjiz420
      08-05-2012
      02:41 PM
      117

      Originally Posted by sewershark
      60gb ps3 are 100% compatible with ps2 games but there is other ps3 that can work correctly with ps2 with a rate of 100% to 70% excluding 60gb ones and those ps3 are about half of the fats

      any one can afford a ps3 60gb from ebay at a really low price or any other fat ps3 that have bc rate mentioned above . . . i am sure this is a better idea than playing with a slim , oem ps2 discs and this almost useless hack that is useful only for testing or debugging purposes specially on slims and less worth than the cheap (30$) dongle if you have any 70% or above BC ps3
      yes i'm aware of the other BC capable fats but the vast majority of ps3 owners still don't have one. your original point was to save money by buying a $30 cobra dongle and now your point is to dish out money for ANOTHER PS3 from ebay that will probably just YLOD very quickly, all for the purpose of ps2 games? if you're going to buy another machine you might as well just buy a damn ps2. I don't particularly need this "almost useless" hack either, as I have a ps2 with a HDD in it and pcsx2 on my PC but it's still nice to have, and it may even be improved in the future who knows

    118. ferhanank
      08-05-2012
      03:01 PM
      118

      Dear friends: İ have Tb and 3.55. But i folders cant copy in PS3 Where I am doing wrong. Soryy for my bad English Thanks from Turkey

    119. Annelies
      08-05-2012
      03:15 PM
      119

      Originally Posted by ferhanank
      Dear friends: İ have Tb and 3.55. But i folders cant copy in PS3 Where I am doing wrong. Soryy for my bad English Thanks from Turkey
      Have you properly mounted your Dev_Flash folder?

      I'm also not sure if this is even compatible with TB CFW...

    120. ferhanank
      08-05-2012
      03:55 PM
      120

      Originally Posted by Annelies
      Have you properly mounted your Dev_Flash folder?

      I'm also not sure if this is even compatible with TB CFW...
      Yes İ did.May be TB CFW not supported

    121. Shezed
      08-05-2012
      04:12 PM
      121

      Originally Posted by stevorkz
      Careful what you say about the "sheeples". The sheeple pay for good video games so that game companies have money to make more good games so that you can download and play them too. If it werent for the "sheeple", there would be no video games
      and this is the only reason why i call you a sheeple. I pay for what i got. that i go download undubbed games is the companies own fault i still own them ussually in Japanese(JRPG) if apllicable, but i'm still a Jap student so not quite there yet. The problem i have with anti piracy is because of the arguments and the false preconseption that by just mindless throwing your money at companies will get you "good games"or "a lot of good games" if you don't know what i mean you should go to some lectures from Richard Stallman. He pretty accuratly describes the true nature of copyright(thus where piracy is derived of) Most of the time people who make games/music/videos are just ordinary workers like you and me and how much they get paid is based on a normal employee contract. only a handfull of famous game designers/movie directors/super stars actually benefit from a succesfull game/movie/album and the chance that those normal employees have of getting fired is only extremely mildly affected by whether the thing they worked on was succesfull or not(in this case more succesfull means less piracy because less piracy should theoretically lead to more turnovers thus higher profit which is often the instrument of measuring the succes of a work). cutting cost = +profit. simple economics paired with automation of processes and above all greed is the main cause of most job losses or closing of less succesfull game studio's

    122. stevorkz
      08-05-2012
      05:15 PM
      122

      Originally Posted by Shezed
      and this is the only reason why i call you a sheeple. I pay for what i got. that i go download undubbed games is the companies own fault i still own them ussually in Japanese(JRPG) if apllicable, but i'm still a Jap student so not quite there yet. The problem i have with anti piracy is because of the arguments and the false preconseption that by just mindless throwing your money at companies will get you "good games"or "a lot of good games" if you don't know what i mean you should go to some lectures from Richard Stallman. He pretty accuratly describes the true nature of copyright(thus where piracy is derived of) Most of the time people who make games/music/videos are just ordinary workers like you and me and how much they get paid is based on a normal employee contract. only a handfull of famous game designers/movie directors/super stars actually benefit from a succesfull game/movie/album and the chance that those normal employees have of getting fired is only extremely mildly affected by whether the thing they worked on was succesfull or not(in this case more succesfull means less piracy because less piracy should theoretically lead to more turnovers thus higher profit which is often the instrument of measuring the succes of a work). cutting cost = +profit. simple economics paired with automation of processes and above all greed is the main cause of most job losses or closing of less succesfull game studio's
      I understand what you are saying. But if your "solution" to the theory you state is to pirate games until the industry implodes, (which is what is currently happening), then it just seems like an excuse to not pay for games.

      Bottom line and what im trying to say is : No matter what noble cause or ulterior motive one may have for piracy, the facts are that it is hurting what we love : Video Games

      No more off topic for me. Turning into a piracy thread

    123. Squarepusher2
      08-05-2012
      05:44 PM
      123

      Originally Posted by stevorkz
      I understand what you are saying. But if your "solution" to the theory you state is to pirate games until the industry implodes, (which is what is currently happening), then it just seems like an excuse to not pay for games.

      Bottom line and what im trying to say is : No matter what noble cause or ulterior motive one may have for piracy, the facts are that it is hurting what we love : Video Games

      No more off topic for me. Turning into a piracy thread
      Dude - this whole scene pirates. The kind of 'piracy' the end-users are involved in is nothing compared to the more serious offenses that remain 'private' for a long time.

      Bottom line - IDGAF about some fatcat publisher/manager being able to pay for his hookers and his penthouse suite while the average coder/designer gets treated like dog****.

      Your 'videogame industry' is the biggest tech sweatshop of the 21st industry - it's a crappy industry and it doesn't deserve any support - it doesn't treat its workers with any respect, it doesn't treat talent with any respect - it no longer turns out any good games - and it's also become anti-consumer (online passes, DRM, all sorts of stupid ****).

      So **** your 'addiction' to videogames - I put workers' rights first - and for those 'rights' to ever turn around, big fatcat executives have to feel the pain.

      If you were actually educated and had a brain, you would have seen real 'developers' from videogame companies like Rockstar posting on Gamasutra that WISHED the game (Red Dead Redemption) would be pirated to hell - 'piracy' hurts nobody oher than a bunch of PR executives that have the majority of stock options in 'first day sales' - your average coder/programmer never sees a penny from that.

      You're deluded, misguided and full of propaganda - lay off the industry koolaid - it isn't real and you're a sucker for a couple of big PR managers that don't care about games to begin with.

      And I'll say it again -

      PIRACY IS PRESERVATION.

      Without piracy, you would not even have a ROM to run on any emulator. Without piracy, there would be no point to PS3 CFW - don't let anybody else kid you - not a single user would be bothering with CFW right now if it weren't for the ability to play backups. IDGAF what everybody says - everybody wants to play this BS game of 'lie to yourself' - I don't - I see it like it is and I tell it like it is.

    124. HulkWogan
      08-06-2012
      02:59 AM
      124

      I as many others here have spent thousands, tens of thousands even on consoles, pc's, hardware and software over 20 odd years, I would like to think that I wouldn't be judged if I pirated some roms here or iso's there.

      The only pirates that bother me are the one's that don't use piracy for personal gain but use it as a source of income.

      Still we can all agree to disagree, and for the sake of bringing ps2 back to all ps3's it only seems right that an original disc is required.

    125. DEFAULTDNB
      08-06-2012
      03:09 AM
      125

      This is a great development, but I wonder how similar the method might be to run psp on ps3?

      Completely agree with [MENTION=230356]Squarepusher2[/MENTION] piracy is preservation, we would have lost so SO SO much in terms of retro and rare games if they hadn't been backed up and shared.

    126. stevorkz
      08-06-2012
      05:06 AM
      126

      Originally Posted by Squarepusher2
      'piracy' hurts nobody oher than a bunch of PR executives
      Wooooow. What the...guess someones a bit sensitive:\. If there was a book called "A List Of The Easiest Things To Do Ever", number 1 would be telling someone they have no brain over the internet when that someone simply states their opinion. So well done you accomplished that. After reading your post and preparing my response at the same time, I read the above quote and came to a conclusion. Surely you aren't older than 13 years of age...so whats the point me carrying on? But ok, just this once I'll stoop to your level.
      (Bare with me Im bad at this)

      1."Dude, this whole scene pirates" - Wrong.BS.Crap. Clearly you dont have many friends in the PS3 scene. There are LOTS of people who dont pirate and are pure hobbyists and homebrew lovers myself included. Sure a TON of people pirate too but dont mistake the ps3 scene as a pirates only party.

      2."Your videogame industry" - Dont you play games too? isnt this "our" videogame industry, that is at war? You are talking as if you dont play and enjoy games yourself and whether you like it or not more and more companies are becoming demotivated to make games due to piracy. Example : Crytek

      3."I put workers rights first" - Another indication that you cant possibly be past 13 years of age. It doesnt take a smart person to know that piracy hurts the little man aswell. But I guess you aren't. So I googled it for you. This article is on the first page of google when googling "piracy costing jobs".
      Didnt take long. http://economyincrisis.org/content/c...llions-us-jobs

      [MENTION=224021]DEFAULTDNB[/MENTION] As for PIRACY IS PRESERVATION, I actually agree. We wouldnt have retro games and roms if not for piracy and for that it is great, We just mustnt make the mistake of forgetting that at first, before the games are freeware or retro or hard to come by, it does hurt companies and jobs whether we'd like to think so or not.

      Hell I have lots of ROMS. And I do download games, but when I like the game, I buy it. And when I dont, I dont

      Now, I have more respect for ps3hax and the forum rules than I do for you squarepusher so feel free to rant on\have the last word way off topic. Im done

    127. BobbyBangin
      08-06-2012
      05:20 AM
      127

      Originally Posted by stevorkz

      1."Dude, this whole scene pirates" - Wrong.BS.Crap. Clearly you dont have many friends in the PS3 scene. There are LOTS of people who dont pirate and are pure hobbyists and homebrew lovers myself included. Sure a TON of people pirate too but dont mistake the ps3 scene as a pirates only party.
      You should probably have a look at this poll. According to it 85% of the scene...well this site anyways, admits to piracy.

      http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php...highlight=poll

    128. ps3hen
      08-06-2012
      05:26 AM
      128

      Originally Posted by BobbyBangin
      You should probably have a look at this poll. According to it 85% of the scene...well this site anyways, admits to piracy.

      http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php...highlight=poll
      One problem with your argument, only 180 people voted on that poll.

    129. BobbyBangin
      08-06-2012
      05:29 AM
      129

      Originally Posted by ps3hen
      One problem with your argument, only 180 people voted on that poll.
      That's the same problem as every poll everywhere. It's always based off of a certain controlled amount. Unless it's compulsory, not everybody isn't going to vote. That's why it represents a percentage. I'd say it's fairly accurate. Also, if you read through the thread you'd see that there were people who said they were too paranoid to vote. That tells me there'd be even more yeses than there are if that weren't the case.

    130. perfect genius
      08-06-2012
      05:34 AM
      130

      Its all relative anyway guys, I 'play' loads of ****e games, that I would never have bought anyway. So does that mean the company missed out on a sale? No it doesnt!

      I buy all the 'good' games, I 'try out' alot of ****e!

    131. DEFAULTDNB
      08-06-2012
      05:40 AM
      131

      If a game is great buy it. Support the developers you love.

      In future when you cant buy those titles, or the machines dont exist anymore, then ROM downloading is a great resource.

      I had a BBC micro and a C64 as a kid, to get all the games I had again on TAPE's is impossible. Thankfully I can replay chase HQ via rom

    132. stevorkz
      08-06-2012
      05:49 AM
      132

      Originally Posted by BobbyBangin
      You should probably have a look at this poll. According to it 85% of the scene...well this site anyways, admits to piracy.
      Thanks. Interesting poll... But my statements stands. Dont mistake the ps3 scene as SOLELY for pirates. Its not true. I love homebrew on my ps3 WAY more than pirated games. If I could just use showtime, retro emus and linux on my OFW 4.11 machine I would probably sell my 3.55 kmeaw and make a few bucks

    133. DEFAULTDNB
      08-06-2012
      05:51 AM
      133

      [MENTION=200136]BobbyBangin[/MENTION] and myself are all about the N64 emu, pretty sure we both want it more than PS3 backups!

    134. perfect genius
      08-06-2012
      05:55 AM
      134

      Oh and a couple of other things too,

      I dont care if crap devs go under, 40-50 quid for a bad game is daylight robbery regardless of the costs to the company.

      For me its Quality over Quantity that matters, does anyone remember the days when a top release came maybe a couple of times a year?

      This changed when companies realised the money they could make off of us geeks!

      Games used to be made by lovers of games, now its like most are made by robots.

      They took the p1ss and I'm glad if/when they go under!

      I will still buy the good stuff, even it means only 2-3 games a year, infact that suites me just fine!

      There will always be games, they might even be better when they arent made by d1cks?

      (bought bames in the last 12 months that I still play FIFA 12, Skyrim, PES 2012, COD MW3. Games downloaded ?????????? cant remember they were mainly really poor lol!)

    135. BobbyBangin
      08-06-2012
      05:57 AM
      135

      Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB
      @BobbyBangin and myself are all about the N64 emu, pretty sure we both want it more than PS3 backups!
      True! And I already have every 64 rom while I'm continuing to work on my collection. There's nothing like 64 games in high res played on my pc via 64 controller hooked up through usb. Majora's Mask is beautiful. Right now I'm playing Kingdom Hearts II on PCSX2. Of which I have the original copy and a backup.

    136. DEFAULTDNB
      08-06-2012
      05:58 AM
      136

      Agreed, quality over quantity any day of the week.

      [MENTION=200136]BobbyBangin[/MENTION] awesome I heart my n64/PS2 adaptoid

    137. Esppiral
      08-06-2012
      06:22 AM
      137

      I thought this thread was about the ps2 emulator not about piracy or moral issues...

    138. SuperDre
      08-06-2012
      06:23 AM
      138

      Originally Posted by perfect genius
      Its all relative anyway guys, I 'play' loads of ****e games, that I would never have bought anyway. So does that mean the company missed out on a sale? No it doesnt!

      I buy all the 'good' games, I 'try out' alot of ****e!
      Yes it does, because in normal circumstances you would only be able to try those games if you bought them, but that is something that doesn't register with a lot of 'pirates' which use this excuse.. Just pirate, but don't come with excuses to try to sweettalk the pirating, there just isn't a good excuse..

    139. Shezed
      08-06-2012
      07:00 AM
      139

      Uhm i want to be clear that i think depriving money from real artists/hardworkers is wrong but as someone mentioned it's often the rich CEO's that enjoy succes of products not the people who make them so when i buy music i look for good artist that sell directly to me (independant) artists that way i can avoid the whole RIAA and MPAA with there ****ed up paid for laws like SOPA and PIPA and ACTA and the newest called CISPA, i'm a big freedom lover and i love to help people, but these anti share laws forces people to stay selfish i really don't like it and then people who only know half of the story throw in stuff like "piracy hurts the industry"it does very mildly instead of a game making 25 million theoretical profit it might only make 11 million profit buttom line it's only a paper loss it's still a profit it only hurts the FAT CEO's with his hookers lol
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by stevorkz
      Thanks. Interesting poll... But my statements stands. Dont mistake the ps3 scene as SOLELY for pirates. Its not true. I love homebrew on my ps3 WAY more than pirated games. If I could just use showtime, retro emus and linux on my OFW 4.11 machine I would probably sell my 3.55 kmeaw and make a few bucks
      for me that's a yes but only for old games i cant get in my country. bad games i delete right away and gud once i buy even if i did a trial run with a pirated versin (i hate demos) Starcraft II for example i pirated first loved it and bought it so it's fine by me no company will get much money even if they did sue me besides downloading in my country is legal only uploading is not. I don't live in the US so they will have a tougher time sueing me. i doubt it's worth the cost to bribe people in my country to do so

      BTW i have pirated 0 ps3 games so don't go of saying people from "this scene" pirate coz of CFW. i haven't used it for that although with all the corrupt things sony are doing it is tempting. i have not bought a new ps3 game in over a year and i also boycot all their products also ask people around me to do the same

    140. perfect genius
      08-06-2012
      07:12 AM
      140

      Originally Posted by SuperDre
      Yes it does, because in normal circumstances you would only be able to try those games if you bought them, but that is something that doesn't register with a lot of 'pirates' which use this excuse.. Just pirate, but don't come with excuses to try to sweettalk the pirating, there just isn't a good excuse..
      Ok thats your opinion fair enough, but there is no way I would buy those poor games. so you are wrong there.

      As I said in the other post, we would be BETTER OFF without all the poor dross that these games companies spew out!

      I also dont need to justify myself to anyone.

    141. advocatusdiaboli
      08-06-2012
      08:55 AM
      141

      Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB
      I had a BBC micro and a C64 as a kid, to get all the games I had again on TAPE's is impossible. Thankfully I can replay chase HQ via rom
      Which C64 games are you after?

    142. DEFAULTDNB
      08-06-2012
      09:05 AM
      142

      Originally Posted by advocatusdiaboli
      Which C64 games are you after?
      I can get anyone I want as a rom . I dont have my bbc or C64 hardware any more, they broke

    143. Squarepusher2
      08-06-2012
      09:07 AM
      143

      Originally Posted by stevorkz
      1."Dude, this whole scene pirates" - Wrong.BS.Crap. Clearly you dont have many friends in the PS3 scene. There are LOTS of people who dont pirate and are pure hobbyists and homebrew lovers myself included. Sure a TON of people pirate too but dont mistake the ps3 scene as a pirates only party.
      Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahaa.

      OK then, why don't these pristine holier than thou guys you refer to show their IDA Pro license? Why don't they show their 'NDA'ed developer badges' - I mean, when they peruse 'stuff' (let's say) that have 'Epic Games' plastered all over it, I would assume some kind of non-confidentiality is at play here and somebody broke it, RIGHT? RIGHT?

      Trust me kid - you are terribly naive and deliberately kept 'dumb' by the people that run these 'scenes'. In reality - these scenes are composed of 99.9% piracy - and frankly, I wouldn't see a problem in this at all if the people that run these scenes weren't such two-faced holier than thou blowhards that think they can wax lyrical about the 'evils' of piracy while they have 'stuff' (let's say) that fell off the back of a turnip truck.

      Either be proud of warez, or don't - but don't be a two-faced hypocritical moron that tries to act as if he doesn't do all this **** just to create this pathetic 'illusion' on the Internet that you 'don't pirate'.

      Oh BTW - these scenes believe in 'open source', right? RIGHT?

      Now then, where is the source to -

      ONE (PS3)

      Where is the source to -

      Homebrew Channel (Wii)

      And I could name a lot of other examples of stuff by these 'holier than thou we believe in open source but we don't pirate - COUGH COUGH' people that won't reveal their sources. So it's 'preach open source', and then in reality it's 'hold onto tools as if it's the warez scene'.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by SuperDre
      Yes it does, because in normal circumstances you would only be able to try those games if you bought them, but that is something that doesn't register with a lot of 'pirates' which use this excuse.. Just pirate, but don't come with excuses to try to sweettalk the pirating, there just isn't a good excuse..
      Nobody needs to 'excuse' himself or create an excuse to justify himself, especially not before you. You are not a judge and if you want to be judgemental, well, frankly, nobody has to give a damn because your words don't hold any weight.

      If right now in this ****ty world all you want to be 'morally conscientious' of is some ****ing videogame piracy - then oh boy, you've got your priorities set straight alright. Grow the **** up and face the 'real issues' this world faces - because piracy ain't it son - this especially applies to you if you're above 20 years old - you ought to have a broader scope of reality by now and a bigger list of things to worry about at this stage - otherwise this smacks of 'arrested development'.

    144. Gonzakpo
      08-06-2012
      09:28 AM
      144

      Originally Posted by Squarepusher2
      Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahaa.

      OK then, why don't these pristine holier than thou guys you refer to show their IDA Pro license? Why don't they show their 'NDA'ed developer badges' - I mean, when they peruse SDKs that have 'Epic Games' plastered all over it, I would assume some kind of non-confidentiality is at play here and somebody broke it, RIGHT? RIGHT?

      Trust me kid - you are terribly naive and deliberately kept 'dumb' by the people that run these 'scenes'. In reality - these scenes are composed of 99.9% piracy - and frankly, I wouldn't see a problem in this at all if the people that run these scenes weren't such two-faced holier than thou blowhards that think they can wax lyrical about the 'evils' of piracy while they have 'stuff' (let's say) that fell off the back of a turnip truck.

      Either be proud of warez, or don't - but don't be a two-faced hypocritical moron that tries to act as if he doesn't do all this **** just to create this pathetic 'illusion' on the Internet that you 'don't pirate'.

      Oh BTW - these scenes believe in 'open source', right? RIGHT?

      Now then, where is the source to -

      ONE (PS3 - CrashSerious)

      Where is the source to -

      Homebrew Channel (Wii)

      And I could name a lot of other examples of stuff by these 'holier than thou we believe in open source but we don't pirate - COUGH COUGH' people that won't reveal their sources. So it's 'preach open source', and then in reality it's 'hold onto tools as if it's the warez scene'.


      Just release what you've got or tell us what you've heard. Expose those f*ckers!

      The funny thing is that when you read old IRC logs (like from a year ago) you start understanding lots of things and who is who in this scene. For example, if you search for the ps3dev irc logs where xx404xx was talking about the PCK0 (november 2011) you'll find how he says that the info on the wiki is inaccurate because someone wants to keep the CEX->DEX conversion for himself. I mean, ALMOST A F*CKING YEAR AGO! And this would be still be a secret if it wasn't for the leak. So, I'm really hoping somebody leaks the ****ing lv0 metadata AES256 key so this secrecy is over FOR EVER and anyone can extract their own ****ing keys from any PC.

      EDIT: I just wanted to make clear that I'm really thankful to the devs that share their knowledge freely. I don't want to put all the devs on the same bag. I'm just pissed off with the ones that control and manipulate this scene.

    145. sewershark
      08-06-2012
      12:26 PM
      145

      Originally Posted by alienjiz420
      yes i'm aware of the other BC capable fats but the vast majority of ps3 owners still don't have one. your original point was to save money by buying a $30 cobra dongle and now your point is to dish out money for ANOTHER PS3 from ebay that will probably just YLOD very quickly, all for the purpose of ps2 games? if you're going to buy another machine you might as well just buy a damn ps2. I don't particularly need this "almost useless" hack either, as I have a ps2 with a HDD in it and pcsx2 on my PC but it's still nice to have, and it may even be improved in the future who knows

      i am not getting your point either lets see if i can explain this in a easier way

      1)if you have a slim=dongle is useless & this hack is useless as well

      2) if you have any fat BC 3.55 fw=dongle is cheap and the best choice & this hack is a waste of time and money cuz it can't load backups

      so in any situation the hack isn't usefull


      3) if you don't have any ps3 and want to have a lot of ps2 and ps3 games and save money

      buy a ps3 bc from ebay ,you can get one with a non working bd drive (very cheap)

      4) ps2 + network adapter price = ps3 bc + dongle price

      and cosidering:

      a) ps2 + network adapter ---> plays only ps2 and ps1 games cost 70$
      and

      b) ps3 slim + useless hack or dongle--> dont play ps2 games cost 200$ to 230$

      c) ps3 fat bc + dongle plays everything cost 70$

      ** you would choose a) + b) paying 270$

      *** i would choose c) paying 70$ and must have 4 yloads from 4 different consoles to spend the money you did (you can still sell the dameged ones and save money but lets discard this last option and assume you throw all you damaged consoles away)

      considering i only had one ps3 60gb in all my life ,still working without any repiars i am a LITTLE skeptical that i'll have 4 yloads from all the 4 consoles

      can't explain this better than what i did i am only human

    146. BzG4m3r
      08-07-2012
      08:57 PM
      146

      What about running pcsx2 now version 1.o and has Linux support just switch to the lunix partition on rebugs os+ couldn't you play backups that way has anyone tried this? isn't pcsx2 better than buggier older emulation from fw 2.x
      ? after i try it ill report back been wanting to play the old roller blade game "rolling" ,but was only release in Europe why does Sony always C@k block game i want to play thank Gd for all the developers keeping the scene alive. There may be hope yet xing fingers

    147. samson
      08-08-2012
      05:06 AM
      147

      back on topic

      Originally Posted by superfurry
      Bollocks to going into factory mode to play a ps2 game.
      You dont need to dude, all i've been doing is: (mini-tut with links)
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------
      1, replace the dev_flash files
      2, launch LV2 Patcher (with new ps2 patch)
      3, boot from disc or use boot_ps2.pkg, both work.
      --------------------------------------------------------------
      Also second pad can be used and works, pressing ps button for five seconds on pad 2 just switches the pad off, on pad 1 it quits game back to xmb and you have to re-apply the patch. With boot_ps2 you need a pad plugged into usb.
      I did try the fsm way and it's almost the same no audio via hdmi , but you do need the pad plugged to usb, and you dont get game apps.

      [MENTION=202964]sandungas[/MENTION] have you tried the non-fsm way? i did some qiuck tests and it looks to be about the same (but my way has toys) and whats up with the audio only via AV? and no vmc's? any way to fix? A big question is there any better/higher ps2 softemu's that work? or any way to hack the elf to give it more memory or up the buffers? just tossing ideas about, but if they can do it for psn Multiman shows cd ps2 (blue) games as ps1/psx so i'm sure there's another trick to be had with that.

      Originally Posted by BzG4m3r
      What about running pcsx2 now version 1.o and has Linux support just switch to the lunix partition on rebugs os+ couldn't you play backups that way has anyone tried this?
      that not a bad idea, worth a go but i'm guessing its gonna be slow.

    148. DEFAULTDNB
      08-08-2012
      05:17 AM
      148

      Nice find [MENTION=70844]samson[/MENTION] I hope this can be improved upon.

      Is it possible to smoosh together any cobra related files to enhance what we have here?

    149. samson
      08-08-2012
      06:31 AM
      149

      Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB
      Is it possible to smoosh together any cobra related files to enhance what we have here?
      I tried cobra ps2_softemu.self and crashed to black screen but multiman tried to start and went to xmb, but i'm guessing there may be a few other soft_emus that run, no harm in trying swapping elf headers might trick it.

    150. DEFAULTDNB
      08-08-2012
      07:14 AM
      150

      Originally Posted by samson
      I tried cobra ps2_softemu.self and crashed to black screen but multiman tried to start and went to xmb, but i'm guessing there may be a few other soft_emus that run, no harm in trying swapping elf headers might trick it.
      Cool, worth a squirt hey!

      OT:
      Do you think PSP emu will be able to progress now this is known about PS2?

    151. sandungas
      08-08-2012
      07:45 AM
      151

      Originally Posted by samson
      [MENTION=202964]sandungas[/MENTION] have you tried the non-fsm way? i did some qiuck tests and it looks to be about the same (but my way has toys) and whats up with the audio only via AV? and no vmc's? any way to fix? A big question is there any better/higher ps2 softemu's that work? or any way to hack the elf to give it more memory or up the buffers? just tossing ideas about, but if they can do it for psn Multiman shows cd ps2 (blue) games as ps1/psx so i'm sure there's another trick to be had with that.
      The problem with game saves and the audio signal comes from the same cause... it seems there are some "module functions" not availables in "factory/service mode"

      This release was more a "proof of concept" than a final hack... mysis used the "ps2_softemu.self" from 2.60 because it was the one most people reported as "the last version working"
      What he did was "simply" resigning it with 3.55 keys (the important patching is done in the other files .sprx ... there is no patching in the emu.self)
      So technically you can use any other emu.self (signed to 3.55).. the one that comes in 3.55 firmware is an option (im not sure if they added some restriction)
      The one used in 3.60 & 3.65 firmwares is pointless (because is the same one used in 3.55)... and the next interesting one is in 3.66 firmware... look at this notes
      http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Emulation#Files_2
      Code:
      (Changes: -2.50] [2.52-260] [2.70] [2.80] [3.00-3.65] [3.66- )
      The good thing about cobra and multimanCM is we know is possible to patch other things, like the disc check (to load backup discs), disc path (to load from hdd), and the game format (to load .iso disc images from hdd)
      Is possible, but needs more patching, and some of this functions are not in the emulators itself (can be gameOS restrictions/features... or managed by modules.sprx)

    152. Mustapha
      08-10-2012
      01:08 AM
      152

      Tested on firmware 3.55 with proper files replaced, CECHP01 (NTSC) PS3 with boot_ps2.pkg.

      007 Everything or Nothing - FMV's are completely glitched up.

      Amplitude - Any prompts after the PlayStation 2 logo are unreadable. Does not respond to controller inputs.

      Aqua Aqua - After a loading screen, a black screen appears with the two instances of the letter "g".

      ATV Offroad Fury 2 - Low framerate, graphical gltiches.

      Backyard Football 06 - Works decently, graphical glitches.

      Backyard Wrestling: There Goes the Neighboorhood - Extremely low framerate upon starting a match.

      Boogie - Does not respond to controller input after the title screen. Anything else is ridiclously slow.

      Dead or Alive 2 Hardcore - Scrambled graphics, unplayable.

      Disney's Extreme Skate Adventures - Extremely low framerate.

      ESPN NBA 2K5 - Fails to recognize controller input.

      ESPN NFL 2K5 - Fails to recognize controller input.

      Giants: Citizens Kabuto - Crashes during intro video.

      Gundam: Federation vs Zeon - Prompts are glitchy, entering your name screen is a bit glitched up, framerate is about 50% of original game during battle.

      Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier - Extremely low framerate.

      Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude - Any FMV content seems to be extremely glitchy. Upon bootup, PS2 logo appears garbled for several seconds. Works at full speed, but all prompts including the pause screen fail to appear, so the game isn't really playable.

      Mary Kate and Ashley: Sweet 16: Licensed to Drive - Poor framerate, but very few graphical glitches, somewhat playable.

      Mat Hoffman Pro BMX 2 - 90% of the original framerate? Very few graphical glitches.

      MLB 08: The Show - Intro videos and menus work perfectly. In game, the framerate is beyond slow.

      MyStreet - EXTREMELY low frame rate and fails to recognize input at the title screen.

      Red Dead Revolver - Intro videos run very slow, crashes at a loading screen.

      NBA 2K2 - Intro FMV's and menus appear very slowly. Very slow to accept controller input.

      Need for Speed: Most Wanted - Menu framerate is extremely low, From Russia with Love demo works just as poorly.

      WWE Smackdown vs Raw Here Comes the Pain - Menu's work, but have fun with super slow motion wrestling matches.

    153. Atrion
      08-10-2012
      01:12 AM
      153

      Just a Note if you are On Rebug 3.55 and using Rebug/Debug mode and on Dex menu 2 when you copy over these files you will loose Dex Menu 2, it will become the same as Cex Menu 1.

    154. DEFAULTDNB
      08-10-2012
      03:34 AM
      154

      Originally Posted by Mustapha
      <snip>
      Wow, not a great endorsement. Hopefully the compatibility will improve over time?

    155. Mustapha
      08-10-2012
      04:33 AM
      155

      Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB
      Wow, not a great endorsement. Hopefully the compatibility will improve over time?
      I'm hoping that out of the remaining 30 or so games I have to test, that I find at least one that works perfectly. I think that Mat Hoffman Pro BMX 2 seems to be the game that runs the best at this point.

    156. SuperDre
      08-10-2012
      06:29 AM
      156

      Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB
      Wow, not a great endorsement. Hopefully the compatibility will improve over time?
      Well, don't count on it, as these are the emulators made by Sony, and if they don't improve them, or if the up to 4.2x emulators (if they're even better) aren't available due to encryption for which there are no keys yet, there won't be any improvement.. Well.. or if someone decompiles them and enhances them (which is also not very likely, as code by decompilers aren't the easiest to work with, if there is even a decompiler for PS3 SPU/PPU applications)..

    157. DEFAULTDNB
      08-10-2012
      06:32 AM
      157

      Originally Posted by SuperDre
      Well, don't count on it, as these are the emulators made by Sony, and if they don't improve them, or if the up to 4.2x emulators (if they're even better) aren't available due to encryption for which there are no keys yet, there won't be any improvement.. Well.. or if someone decompiles them and enhances them (which is also not very likely, as code by decompilers aren't the easiest to work with, if there is even a decompiler for PS3 SPU/PPU applications)..
      I thought (perhaps wrongly) that cobra had improved on the stock ps2 soft emu?

    158. MatrixOne
      08-10-2012
      09:37 AM
      158

      as i know the PS2 classics require the most of them 3.6x

      Max Payne ps2 classics needs 3.70

      ATTRIBUTE BOOTABLE CATEGORY PARENTAL_LEVEL PS3_SYSTEM_VER REGION_DENY TITLE TITLE_ID 2P 03.7000 Max Payne SLES50325
      but if i unpkg it i get only this

      • USERDIR
        • CONTENT
          • 001.dxt
          • DE.dxt
          • EN.dxt
          • ES.dxt
          • FR.dxt
          • IT.dxt
          • manual.dxt
          • Others.dxt
        • SAVEDATA
          • SCEVMC0.VME
          • SCEVMC1.VME

          CONFIG
          ISO.BIN.EDAT
          ISO.BIN.ENC

        ICON0.PNG
        PARAM.SFO
        PIC0.PNG
        PIC1.PNG
        PIC2.PNG
        PS3LOGO.DAT


      But No EBOOT

      okay i have now try to install it on a 3.55 CFW its sais unknown

      and the ISO.BIN.ENC is the main file is 4 GB big wenn i install it an look into the game folder

      so we need more then the ps2 emus VSH and LV2 and some sprx....

    159. DEFAULTDNB
      08-10-2012
      10:01 AM
      159

      Originally Posted by MatrixOne
      as i know the PS2 classics require the most of them 3.6x

      Max Payne ps2 classics needs 3.70



      but if i unpkg it i get only this

      • USERDIR
        • CONTENT
          • 001.dxt
          • DE.dxt
          • EN.dxt
          • ES.dxt
          • FR.dxt
          • IT.dxt
          • manual.dxt
          • Others.dxt
        • SAVEDATA
          • SCEVMC0.VME
          • SCEVMC1.VME

          CONFIG
          ISO.BIN.EDAT
          ISO.BIN.ENC

        ICON0.PNG
        PARAM.SFO
        PIC0.PNG
        PIC1.PNG
        PIC2.PNG
        PS3LOGO.DAT


      But No EBOOT

      okay i have now try to install it on a 3.55 CFW its sais unknown

      and the ISO.BIN.ENC is the main file is 4 GB big wenn i install it an look into the game folder

      so we need more then the ps2 emus VSH and LV2 and some sprx....
      interesting... ISO.BIN.ENC = encrypted?

      Of course 3.7x encrypted wont work, did you try a 3.60 encrypted through SCEtool? (if SCEtool handles it)

    160. samson
      08-10-2012
      06:27 PM
      160

      [using my method]

      I checked an old version of multiman 02.07.01 , might just have to downgrade version to get ps2-hdd/usb backups

      02.07.01 displays "playstation2 game disc loaded" [path/usb/] (experimental) , and that was made from a disc DVD backup of marvel vs capcom 2(with multiman). but just exits back to xmb after pressing ok , also read (and backed up) a cd backup of swapmagic XD the game folders are just the files from the discs.

      that was before i installed bdemu2 (i was getting the nag) , now i get param.sfo not found (is it possible to make one for ps2?) anyways figured this might help progress.

    161. MatrixOne
      08-11-2012
      03:03 AM
      161

      so i think the problem is we have at the moment ps2_softemu.self from 2.60 but i think we have to replace it with the one from 2.70 an the ps2_gxemu.self too i have try to resign the 2.70 files but i failed. scetool don't compress it, i have try many think but no not compressed i get.

      I look at the moment in the ps2 classic pkg to understand
      3.55 why do not realize this when it was installed.

      maybe it is enough if we patched things like vsh, sprx and some xml files i dont think we need to patch lv2

      if some one like to try and investigate it to http://tinyurl.com/c7hchgo

    162. samson
      08-11-2012
      06:36 PM
      162

      Originally Posted by samson
      [using my method]

      02.07.01 displays "playstation2 game disc loaded" [path/usb/] (experimental)

      that was before i installed bdemu2 (i was getting the nag) , now i get param.sfo not found.
      i also get the same param.sfo not found with bdemu1. And when i installed multiman 1.17.00, 02.03.00, 04.04.00.

      also when i press select and x on a real ps2 disc it gives me:
      /dev_bdvd/param.sfo not found?? lol

      so i went back to 02.07.01, and (with ps2patch + PL3 3.55) i did manage to mount a ps2 hdd backup of swapmagic, i can browse the files on dev_bdvd, dev_ps2disc and app_home with xmbm+ file manager and they have been changed from the demo disc i had in for the swapmagic files from my backup on hdd, but when launched it was the demo disc in the disc-drive that booted app_home just gave an error.

      and [MENTION=202964]sandungas[/MENTION] would dex ps2_softemu work, are they the same as cex? I had a look at the 2.60 cex ps2_softemu.elf with HxD searched for elf and a good few come up:
      [spoiler]Multi_Thread_Manager
      Vblank_service
      IO/File_Manager
      Moldule_File_loader
      ROM_file_driver
      IOP_SIF_manager
      IOP_SIF_rpc_interface
      RebootByEE
      LoadModuleByEE
      EEConfig
      cdvd_driver
      secrman_for_dex
      mcman
      padman
      cdvd_ee_driver
      FILEIO_service
      rspu2_driver
      HDD_Loader
      System_Memory_Manager
      Module_Manager
      Timer_Manager
      System_C_lib
      Stdio
      Heap_lib[/spoiler]
      well i think they are .elf's, some are repeated, i dont know if they could be extracted?? (do i just copy and paste as new?) maybe copy over old internal elfs for new XD

      i also found a few game id's SLPS25200(Final Fantasy XI) , SCUS9726(Ratchet & Clank Going Commando) , SLPM65981(Front Mission Online) , SLPM65197(Nobunaga's Ambition Online) i think are hdd install games, anyhow hope this helps i'll keep looking.

    163. sandungas
      08-11-2012
      06:58 PM
      163

      Originally Posted by samson
      i also get the same param.sfo not found with bdemu1. And when i installed multiman 1.17.00, 02.03.00, 04.04.00.

      also when i press select and x on a real ps2 disc it gives me:
      /dev_bdvd/param.sfo not found?? lol

      so i went back to 02.07.01, and (with ps2patch + PL3 3.55) i did manage to mount a ps2 hdd backup of swapmagic, i can browse the files on dev_bdvd, dev_ps2disc and app_home with xmbm+ file manager and they have been changed from the demo disc i had in for the swapmagic files from my backup on hdd, but when launched it was the demo disc in the disc-drive that booted app_home just gave an error.

      and [MENTION=202964]sandungas[/MENTION] would dex ps2_softemu work, are they the same as cex? I had a look at the 2.60 cex ps2_softemu.elf with HxD searched for elf and a good few come up:
      [spoiler]Multi_Thread_Manager
      Vblank_service
      IO/File_Manager
      Moldule_File_loader
      ROM_file_driver
      IOP_SIF_manager
      IOP_SIF_rpc_interface
      RebootByEE
      LoadModuleByEE
      EEConfig
      cdvd_driver
      secrman_for_dex
      mcman
      padman
      cdvd_ee_driver
      FILEIO_service
      rspu2_driver
      HDD_Loader
      System_Memory_Manager
      Module_Manager
      Timer_Manager
      System_C_lib
      Stdio
      Heap_lib[/spoiler]
      well i think they are .elf's, some are repeated, i dont know if they could be extracted?? (do i just copy and paste as new?) maybe copy over old internal elfs for new XD

      i also found a few game id's SLPS25200(Final Fantasy XI) , SCUS9726(Ratchet & Clank Going Commando) , SLPM65981(Front Mission Online) , SLPM65197(Nobunaga's Ambition Online) i think are hdd install games, anyhow hope this helps i'll keep looking.
      The "PARAM.SFO not found" error is in multiman ?... because it looks normal, it can be treating the disc like one of those "ps2 virtual HDD installation".... this feature is very old, maybe deank added it in the process of adding other stuff related

      The other HDD installable format is "ps2 classic" ... this was implemented in 3.70 (iirc) so there is no way to boot it in 3.55 and no option for deank to implement anything related in multiman

      I say this because the only reason that is asking about a PARAM.SFO... is because PS3 thinks is a HDD game, or a PS3 disc game (ps2 discs doesnt have a PARAM.SFO, neither an ICON0.PNG)

      ----------------------
      I cant help you too much with the emu files, i never taked a look at them, i just was helping a bit to mysis to point in the right direction when patching XMB restrictions

      The other day eussnl added some lists, i think are from cex emu .self's (im not 100% sure)
      http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Talk:...on#PS2.2FPStwo

      And this ones are installed in a "ps2 virtual hdd"
      http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Emulation#PS2_HDD
      The PARAM.SFO used by this ones is generated by the "PS2 System Data. pkg" (and his ICON0.PNG i think is the one used by the same "PS2 System Data")
      http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Emula...ool_package.29

    164. baargle
      08-11-2012
      07:36 PM
      164

      Originally Posted by samson
      [using my method]

      I checked an old version of multiman 02.07.01 , might just have to downgrade version to get ps2-hdd/usb backups

      02.07.01 displays "playstation2 game disc loaded" [path/usb/] (experimental) , and that was made from a disc DVD backup of marvel vs capcom 2(with multiman). but just exits back to xmb after pressing ok , also read (and backed up) a cd backup of swapmagic XD the game folders are just the files from the discs.

      that was before i installed bdemu2 (i was getting the nag) , now i get param.sfo not found (is it possible to make one for ps2?) anyways figured this might help progress.
      Not sure I'm getting you right here but it sounds like you're referring to an old version of Multiman that could allegedly load PS2 backup ISOs right?

      Well scrap that idea, it never actually worked.

    165. samson
      08-13-2012
      05:21 AM
      165

      Originally Posted by baargle
      Well scrap that idea, it never actually worked.
      lol, thats a bit negative , after all we know a bit more now, like a ps2 backup can be made and mounted on ps3 from a disc back up on a non-BC without factory service mode.

      and i've just found this.
      http://pastie.org/4392598
      so [MENTION=202964]sandungas[/MENTION] do we need to patch (or grab old) premo_game_plugin and premo_plugin? (i doubt i can patch with lv2patcher?) might fix audio, vmc and controller issues?? idk, also whats the reason for factory service mode? will i damage my ps3 by not using it?

      the one big problem is the soft reset when the ps2softemu boots (killing any mounting) anyways i added the ps2 patch to my PL3 3.55 patch and looks to be working but need to test more.

    166. DEFAULTDNB
      08-13-2012
      05:31 AM
      166

      What are the chances deank himself will admit partial cobra defeat and re-add PS2 back into MM now that this revelation has come to light?

    167. Mustapha
      08-13-2012
      01:56 PM
      167

      For the sake of trying something out, I tried decrypting ps2_softemu.self from 3.55, editing one of the SLUS 2**.** entries to match a disc I had lying around in the decrypted ps2_softemu.elf with a hex editor then reencrypting ps2_softemu.elf. I transferred it back to dev_flash (dev_blind).

      After running boot_ps2.pkg with my modified ps2_softemu.self, YLOD.

      I'm probably doing something wrong or I just don't understand how the process of editing self/elf files (if its possible). I'm using scetool 0.2.8.