66 Comments

1. 

   mckenziesdaddy
   08-01-2012
   06:26 PM

   1

   ok, What does this help us do?

2. 

   Gonzakpo
   08-01-2012
   06:33 PM

   2

   Originally Posted by mckenziesdaddy ok, What does this help us do?

   They are the core programs of the PS3 (except for the ones that couldn't be decrypted like the lv0). They are useful only for a dev who wants to reverse them. Basically he unselfed them with the now available 3.60 keys. Not a big deal really (no offence intended), anyone with the keys can do this now.
   
   MORE INFO: http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Plays..._Package_(PUP)

3. 

   Annelies
   08-01-2012
   08:23 PM

   3

   Front paged.

4. 

   bubbleboy
   08-01-2012
   09:05 PM

   4

   No big deal?
   
   A 3.60 CFW is no big deal?
   
   Huh?

5. 

   cloudx
   08-01-2012
   09:11 PM

   5

   lol he probably said that because he might be on 4.20 lol (just kidding bud)
   
   this might be usefull for 3.60 users.

6. 

   TizzyT
   08-01-2012
   09:12 PM

   6

   Originally Posted by bubbleboy No big deal? A 3.60 CFW is no big deal? Huh?

   No where does PsDev mention a new CFW from these files. And no its not a big deal.

7. 

   CaptainCPS-X
   08-01-2012
   09:52 PM

   7

   Originally Posted by TizzyT No where does PsDev mention a new CFW from these files. And no its not a big deal.

   Big deal = perspective
   
   I like to value even the tinniest collaboration to the scene, is it for research, for fun, for love, etc...
   
   So in my "perspective", it is nice to have fresh content flowing in the PS3 scene
   
   Motivation is a powerful weapon, never underestimate what appears to be little things.
   
   PS: No offense intended [MENTION=192468]TizzyT[/MENTION] , peace out!.
   
   SeeYa!
   

8. 

   Willie C.
   08-01-2012
   10:01 PM

   8

   Its called leg work. He did the first part for whoever wants to pick it up and run with it.

9. 

   denero1
   08-01-2012
   10:03 PM

   9

   Originally Posted by CaptainCPS-X Big deal = perspective I like to value even the tinniest collaboration to the scene, is it for research, for fun, for love, etc... So in my "perspective", it is nice to have fresh content flowing in the PS3 scene Motivation is a powerful weapon, never underestimate what appears to be little things. PS: No offense intended [MENTION=192468]TizzyT[/MENTION] , peace out!. SeeYa!

   rightly said look at the scene working together even now people sharing information helping others obtain a solution that's what a community should be about

10. 

    synce
    08-01-2012
    10:14 PM

    10

    3.60 cfw would be convenent.. but I wonder what e3 will do then :D These are probably the only keys they were going to release for free

11. 

    jose47
    08-01-2012
    10:17 PM

    11

    until it exceeds the second updater
    
    it only serves to give sets of 3.60 to 3.55 users

12. 

    psyki
    08-01-2012
    10:18 PM

    12

    awesome there hasent been this much info out since failover and egohotz.... it nice to see it coming back to life... thanks [MENTION=209397]PsDev[/MENTION]

13. 

    TizzyT
    08-01-2012
    10:51 PM

    13

    Originally Posted by CaptainCPS-X Big deal = perspective I like to value even the tinniest collaboration to the scene, is it for research, for fun, for love, etc... So in my "perspective", it is nice to have fresh content flowing in the PS3 scene Motivation is a powerful weapon, never underestimate what appears to be little things. PS: No offense intended [MENTION=192468]TizzyT[/MENTION] , peace out!. SeeYa!

    Opps should have clarified, PsDev work is much appreciated, what im saying isn't a big deal is a 3.6 CFW (arguably). Sorry
    ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
    

    Originally Posted by denero1 rightly said look at the scene working together even now people sharing information helping others obtain a solution that's what a community should be about

    Sorry for the mess up, I didn't intend a miss understanding.

14. 

    CaptainCPS-X
    08-01-2012
    10:58 PM

    14

    Originally Posted by TizzyT Opps should have clarified, PsDev work is much appreciated, what im saying isn't a big deal is a 3.6 CFW (arguably). Sorry ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* Sorry for the mess up, I didn't intend a miss understanding.

    No problem man! All is good!
    
    SeeYa!
    

15. 

    Psgameboy
    08-02-2012
    12:24 AM

    15

    Originally Posted by TizzyT No where does PsDev mention a new CFW from these files. And no its not a big deal.

    Actually in terms of MFW for 3.60+ this is a big deal when you know how the system fully operates, especially when this can be applied to those unhackable consoles.
    You would probably say that we can't find new private keys for that, which is true , however, I'll give you a hint...ask yourself how did DH managed to apply their own 3.56 MFW? (here is another hint - they didn't manage to calculate new private keys).
    
    
    This Scene is actually coming alive in terms of homebrew for EVERY console.
    Thanks for everyone who took part on this hard and highly appreciated project!

16. 

    TizzyT
    08-02-2012
    12:54 AM

    16

    Originally Posted by Psgameboy Actually in terms of MFW for 3.60+ this is a big deal when you know how the system fully operates, especially when this can be applied to those unhackable consoles. You would probably say that we can't find new private keys for that, which is true , however, I'll give you a hint...ask yourself how did DH managed to apply their own 3.56 MFW? (here is another hint - they didn't manage to calculate new private keys). This Scene is actually coming alive in terms of homebrew for EVERY console. Thanks for everyone who took part on this hard and highly appreciated project!

    Ah completely forgot about the fact that many people cant downgrade and are stuck with 3.6+, sorry about that, I was too centered around the idea of a cecha01 which is what I want to always have lol. But yeah 3.6 CFW would be good for people with undowngradeable consoles.

17. 

    poorguy
    08-02-2012
    01:11 AM

    17

    As per the SKU Model Table on ps3devwiki most of the newer consoles have the factory firmware version as 3.60/3.61.. If the E3 flasher enables us to downgrade it till that level along with a CFW/MFW with "full fucntional and operational capabilities" could provide relief to a lot of people not to miss out on dual booting as well.. And having these CORE_OS files is one of the steps needed to be done and we have it.. Thank You [MENTION=209397]PsDev[/MENTION]!!

18. 

    Psgameboy
    08-02-2012
    01:11 AM

    18

    Originally Posted by TizzyT Ah completely forgot about the fact that many people cant downgrade and are stuck with 3.6+, sorry about that, I was too centered around the idea of a cecha01 which is what I want to always have lol. But yeah 3.6 CFW would be good for people with undowngradeable consoles.

    I think technically the hardest issue of downgrading the 3000x like consoles was the fact that we didn't know what drivers to write for them (but now you do), so I believe that you can even add the new drivers to a modified 3.55 with the official private keys and downgrade (or make your own 3.60+ mfw).
    I have a good feeling that E3 was planning to do so, but the release of 3.60 public keys has changed that .

19. 

    fromzero
    08-02-2012
    01:31 AM

    19

    Originally Posted by synce 3.60 cfw would be convenent.. but I wonder what e3 will do then :D These are probably the only keys they were going to release for free

    Well actually, this guy has probably been sitting on these keys for awhile, not sharing and reading that e3 would be giving out keys wanted some credit before his hard work became obsolete. If you're wondering what keys e3 has look no further than the eboots that they released. They at least have 3.7x keys, no doubt qbout it. The question is what keys have they reversed so far and I'm assuming that their app signer / keys which are to be released in a package may be free for flasher buyers 0day or maybe free for all... Point is this, just because a bunch of stuff is reversed doesn't mean that there aren't a ton of other security measures in newer firmware which could take some serious time. The way ps3 scene has been working though, we will probably get one person fixing each thing and then one person will finish and be heralded as the new champion. R.I.p.

20. 

    DEFAULTDNB
    08-02-2012
    02:04 AM

    20

    Great work [MENTION=209397]PsDev[/MENTION]

21. 

    really_wacky
    08-02-2012
    02:05 AM

    21

    Its nice to see this progress, fist DEX leaks now this. I hope there comes a way to downgrade from even higher firmwares 4.x to 3.55.
    
    Also probabbly a stupid question, if they can decrypt 3.60 cant they see the way it behaves and crack higher firmwares?

22. 

    bubbleboy
    08-02-2012
    03:44 AM

    22

    I am 99% certain we will see newer keys within the next week.
    
    FW for 3.55 is different from 3.60 in terms of structure. But the same from 3.60 to 4.21.
    
    
    kids are cool. boys are like ps3s. lots of fun until u have to pay for what they did with their dongle. girls are like 360s. lots of fun until u find the rrod in the toilet one day ~gaaraofdadesert

23. 

    DEFAULTDNB
    08-02-2012
    04:02 AM

    23

    Originally Posted by bubbleboy kids are cool. boys are like ps3s. lots of fun until u have to pay for what they did with their dongle. girls are like 360s. lots of fun until u find the rrod in the toilet one day ~gaaraofdadesert

    LOL
    
    
    /10 chars

24. 

    Brenza
    08-02-2012
    05:48 AM

    24

    I think a 3.60 cfw right now is not a good thing, at least not until well'll find out a way do downgrade to 3.55... a good way should be using QA Flag but we have to allow the installation of <=3.55 PUP files and other fake-signed PUP

25. 

    djhazardous
    08-02-2012
    05:57 AM

    25

    Why have they found the 3.60 keys but not the 4.21 keys? Surely the process of finding them is the same, isn't it?
    
    Don't get me wrong it's good news but sometimes I wonder if these hackers are holding back on releasing the latest stuff for one reason or another.

26. 

    bigo93
    08-02-2012
    06:01 AM

    26

    They have the 4.21 keys, but if they release them then noone will buy their new dongle.

27. 

    dablakmark8
    08-02-2012
    06:02 AM

    27

    You know it took 7 years to fully enjoy any psp,be it flash based cfw or memory residing or emulation..etc.Ahh i remember the days when ta XXX mother boards were unhackable,Look at the psp scene in 2012,everything has been cracked wide open.
    
    SO we wont right off those 3000 ps3 models yet..:D

28. 

    Brenza
    08-02-2012
    06:03 AM

    28

    Originally Posted by djhazardous Why have they found the 3.60 keys but not the 4.21 keys? Surely the process of finding them is the same, isn't it? Don't get me wrong it's good news but sometimes I wonder if these hackers are holding back on releasing the latest stuff for one reason or another.

    that's obvious...
    i hope they didn't release the 3.60 keys to let us think that converting to DEX is useless just to start back with dongles in few months
    and why they didn't release lv0 keys?
    
    
    I'm on a dex right now, if a cfw 3.60 will out i'll stay on dex as i can use downgrade anytime i want... everyone installs a 3.60 retail cfw might be unable to downgrade back to 3.55 wwithout using a flasher!

29. 

    djhazardous
    08-02-2012
    06:07 AM

    29

    Yeah, well that's the reason for my post. I updated my console last year after the insane drout the PS3 scene took. I don't regret it, I've played the console more in the past year and a half because of online gaming than I ever did with hundreds of backups to play offline.
    
    But I do now want to downgrade my console, just to get another taste of all the new goodness that has been released.
    
    I really wish they'd just release a 4.21 software downgrader.

30. 

    mcmrc1
    08-02-2012
    06:12 AM

    30

    nice to see that the scene is back again thx to all devs out there who are developing for us for free. you all have my biggest respect thx

31. 

    dablakmark8
    08-02-2012
    06:23 AM

    31

    Originally Posted by Brenza that's obvious... i hope they didn't release the 3.60 keys to let us think that converting to DEX is useless just to start back with dongles in few months and why they didn't release lv0 keys? I'm on a dex right now, if a cfw 3.60 will out i'll stay on dex as i can use downgrade anytime i want... everyone installs a 3.60 retail cfw might be unable to downgrade back to 3.55 wwithout using a flasher!

    Never thought about that,but surely there would be a software solution for cech models.

32. 

    spok
    08-02-2012
    07:14 AM

    32

    i think theres no need 4 lower CFW than 4.2+ while 3.6 games can b patched and only reason 4 higher CFW than 3.55 would b somethin like PSN access

33. 

    TizzyT
    08-02-2012
    08:02 AM

    33

    Originally Posted by Psgameboy I think technically the hardest issue of downgrading the 3000x like consoles was the fact that we didn't know what drivers to write for them (but now you do), so I believe that you can even add the new drivers to a modified 3.55 with the official private keys and downgrade (or make your own 3.60+ mfw). I have a good feeling that E3 was planning to do so, but the release of 3.60 public keys has changed that .

    Besides some hardware revisions the main reason that newer models can't downgrade is because of bootldr+metldr iirc. Those 2 are what defines the lowest firmware a system can go to.
    
    PS: iirc the keytable is running out of space, if true Sony will eventually not be able to add new keys anymore at least not in the same way they have been doing.

34. 

    really_wacky
    08-02-2012
    08:11 AM

    34

    If we would have the lvl0 keys we would not need firmware keys anymore right? And does the person w ho released the keys have the lvl 0 key?

35. 

    Prince Valiant
    08-02-2012
    08:24 AM

    35

    Originally Posted by djhazardous Why have they found the 3.60 keys but not the 4.21 keys? Surely the process of finding them is the same, isn't it? Don't get me wrong it's good news but sometimes I wonder if these hackers are holding back on releasing the latest stuff for one reason or another.

    Better than nothing . I'm happy about this, 'cause eboot hacks are way better than save hacks :P.

36. 

    Hells Guardian
    08-02-2012
    08:39 AM

    36

    Nevermind. LOL
    ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
    

    Originally Posted by TizzyT Besides some hardware revisions the main reason that newer models can't downgrade is because of bootldr+metldr iirc. Those 2 are what defines the lowest firmware a system can go to. PS: iirc the keytable is running out of space, if true Sony will eventually not be able to add new keys anymore at least not in the same way they have been doing.

    IIRC that is quite right. However though I recall hearing that metldr doesn't actually store anything bout the lowest acceptable firmware just bootldr. though that could well be untrue.

37. 

    r07f1
    08-02-2012
    10:52 AM

    37

    Just a thought... what's the difference between this and zadow's idb releases??
    
    I mean we all have the keys and the tools...
    
    i'm not afiliated with zadow nor trying to defend him but he releases idbs and unselfed dongle update eboots and everyone bashes him and PsDev unselfs something that we have the keys for and the release gets a completely different treatment...
    
    don't get me wrong having the elfs on the tubes is nice but i think this does not deserve front page...

38. 

    DEFAULTDNB
    08-02-2012
    10:53 AM

    38

    I think zadow didnt actually do it. [MENTION=209397]PsDev[/MENTION] has done it and is legit

39. 

    PsDev
    08-02-2012
    11:22 AM

    39

    He released a 3.55 DONGLE EBOOT.BIN that he unselfed. This is from 3.60 OFW in the Core_OS and all the SELF in their are decrypted (unselfed) His was usless he trolled everyone he released dumb ass stuff

40. 

    luqi
    08-02-2012
    11:35 AM

    40

    Originally Posted by really_wacky If we would have the lvl0 keys we would not need firmware keys anymore right? And does the person w ho released the keys have the lvl 0 key?

    Dont know if they have lvl 0 keys but im sure they have up to 4.+ public keys .

41. 

    pois0n
    08-02-2012
    11:46 AM

    41

    Originally Posted by PsDev He released a 3.55 DONGLE EBOOT.BIN that he unselfed. This is from 3.60 OFW in the Core_OS and all the SELF in their are decrypted (unselfed) His was usless he trolled everyone he released dumb ass stuff

    So zadow was always a fake?

42. 

    r07f1
    08-02-2012
    12:30 PM

    42

    hey i know he was a fake... (that lv0 dump with with linux and ld written all over it said it all...)
    
    i was actually talking about the unself part i remember people bashing "haha he knows how to use readself and stuff..."
    (that's the reason of my comparisson)
    
    he gets a gorilla! xD
    and this gets "YAY! decrypted!! \o/"

43. 

    dragonsan
    08-02-2012
    12:31 PM

    43

    Originally Posted by spok i think theres no need 4 lower CFW than 4.2+ while 3.6 games can b patched and only reason 4 higher CFW than 3.55 would b somethin like PSN access

    thats not 100% true.
    
    i would like to use my playstation headphones with the playstation. but it requires 3.70

44. 

    Brenza
    08-02-2012
    12:40 PM

    44

    uff, i'd really like 3.73 keys... =(
    my Devil May Cry HD Collecion, my sweet collection! =(
    
    
    
    
    

    Originally Posted by really_wacky If we would have the lvl0 keys we would not need firmware keys anymore right? And does the person w ho released the keys have the lvl 0 key?

    sure, but they won't release them because of their dongles
    highter firmware doesn't have boot from usb, we'll NEVER see a newer CFW because dongle would be useless! =(

45. 

    pois0n
    08-02-2012
    01:00 PM

    45

    Originally Posted by Brenza sure, but they won't release them because of their dongles highter firmware doesn't have boot from usb, we'll NEVER see a newer CFW because dongle would be useless! =(

    I still think we will see a new CFW or at least a software downgrade not too long from now. Just because the dongle companys have the keys doesn't mean we won't find them. Nobody thought we would have 3.60 keys a few days ago but look what we got

46. 

    235tylerlee
    08-02-2012
    01:50 PM

    46

    I have a quick question...ive been following ps3hax for like over a year....but back to my question.......i keep reading that these dongles like trueblu e3 etc have the keys to firnwares above 3.6. Well i may be wrong here but they would need the keys to downgrade, i think. So if they have these keys and you need them to downgrade then they should be within the dongle right? So if im right a dev could crack open this son of a ***** and get the keys? Idk i may be wrong and if sorry for waste of time

47. 

    pois0n
    08-02-2012
    03:05 PM

    47

    Originally Posted by 235tylerlee I have a quick question...ive been following ps3hax for like over a year....but back to my question.......i keep reading that these dongles like trueblu e3 etc have the keys to firnwares above 3.6. Well i may be wrong here but they would need the keys to downgrade, i think. So if they have these keys and you need them to downgrade then they should be within the dongle right? So if im right a dev could crack open this son of a ***** and get the keys? Idk i may be wrong and if sorry for waste of time

    The keys aren't in the dongle

48. 

    baileyscream
    08-02-2012
    04:06 PM

    48

    Originally Posted by really_wacky Its nice to see this progress, fist DEX leaks now this. I hope there comes a way to downgrade from even higher firmwares 4.x to 3.55. Also probabbly a stupid question, if they can decrypt 3.60 cant they see the way it behaves and crack higher firmwares?

    you can downgrade from 4.21fw to 3.55 but only if your min version is 3.55 or lower.
    but if a cfw /mfw was created for 3.60 then all current consoles can downgrade to 3.60 (or upgrade)
    
    

    Originally Posted by Brenza I think a 3.60 cfw right now is not a good thing, at least not until well'll find out a way do downgrade to 3.55... a good way should be using QA Flag but we have to allow the installation of <=3.55 PUP files and other fake-signed PUP

    see above.
    
    ....................................................................................................
    my personal thought on this:-
    
    1. E3 said there will be keys released soon.
    2. an anon releases 3.60 keys
    3. if E3 released them under E3 sony would be all over them.
    4. as E3 is not linked to the release they will be left alone
    5. a 3.60 cfw can now possibly be created (is this what E3 wanted all along)
    6. if the above happens and its E3 that create a cfw then more consoles can downgrade via a flasher
    7. E3 can now sell more Flashers. (no need for dongle sales)
    
    oh & btw why are you sure "****youDH" = demonhades and not D!ckHe@d
    lol

49. 

    Drexal
    08-02-2012
    04:26 PM

    49

    Originally Posted by baileyscream you can downgrade from 4.21fw to 3.55 but my personal thought on this:- 1. E3 said there will be keys released soon. 2. an anon releases 3.60 keys 3. if E3 released them under E3 sony would be all over them. 4. as E3 is not linked to the release they will be left alone 5. a 3.60 cfw can now possibly be created (is this what E3 wanted all along) 6. if the above happens and its E3 that create a cfw then more consoles can downgrade via a flasher 7. E3 can now sell more Flashers. (no need for dongle sales) oh & btw why are you sure "****youDH" = demonhades and not D!ckHe@d lol

    \
    
    I Agree,.. Maybe this was the so called "system" they talked about for releasing the keys.

50. 

    synce
    08-02-2012
    04:58 PM

    50

    ^ They said their system is something you sign up for. You guys are reading too much into it.. There's no conspiracy, just drama. I'm sure this leak is tied to E3's announcement

51. 

    baileyscream
    08-02-2012
    05:07 PM

    51

    Originally Posted by synce ^ They said their system is something you sign up for. You guys are reading too much into it.. There's no conspiracy, just drama. I'm sure this leak is tied to E3's announcement

    i havent mentioned this "system".
    
    and you also think this leak is tied to E3 ................ so your also reading too much into it
    
    lol dont say one thing one at the start of your post then say the opposite at the end... thats just confusing
    
    this reply is light hearted dont take offence

52. 

    lunex
    08-02-2012
    06:18 PM

    52

    Maybe E3 couldn't create CFW using only these keys so they released it to public where other devs can do something about it and share a method how to do it (they calculated it will take about 1 to 2 months ;p). Then E3 could do the same but with 4.20 keys (which they already have of course...) and create some sort of "system" that will allow access to this newest CFW with some conditions (having e3 flasher for example).

53. 

    CaptainCPS-X
    08-02-2012
    06:37 PM

    53

    I wonder why lot of people have to create theories and come to conclusions based on those theories. Is not like it will change anything, however it can and has created unnecessary confusion and conflicts many times.
    
    Why not wait for reality to take place?
    
    PS: No offense intended to anyone, just trying to create some conscience.
    
    SeeYa!
    

54. 

    Drexal
    08-02-2012
    06:45 PM

    54

    Maybe this is all tied to George Bush and the Scientology conspiracy. In fact I'm sure of it.

55. 

    TheWhiteTyger
    08-02-2012
    07:39 PM

    55

    Originally Posted by TizzyT Ah completely forgot about the fact that many people cant downgrade and are stuck with 3.6+, sorry about that, I was too centered around the idea of a cecha01 which is what I want to always have lol. But yeah 3.6 CFW would be good for people with undowngradeable consoles.

    Sorry to go off topic, but what is so great about the CECHA01 PS3 model besides the card reader, [MENTION=192468]TizzyT[/MENTION]? That's the model of my PS3, it's why I'm asking.

56. 

    TizzyT
    08-02-2012
    08:45 PM

    56

    Originally Posted by TheWhiteTyger Sorry to go off topic, but what is so great about the CECHA01 PS3 model besides the card reader, [MENTION=192468]TizzyT[/MENTION]? That's the model of my PS3, it's why I'm asking.

    It might not be that important to you if you prefer a longer lasting console over a fully featured one. I like it because its the one model where everything is available and not taken out by hardware revisions. One of those things to mention is the card reader which I did personally use and the PS2 game compatibility. Also it had 4 USB ports so yeah the reason why I like it is because it is the most fully featured console. Of course iirc there is also an 80 GB that's similar with all features too but I don't know the model.

57. 

    BobbyBangin
    08-02-2012
    08:55 PM

    57

    Originally Posted by TizzyT It might not be that important to you if you prefer a longer lasting console over a fully featured one. I like it because its the one model where everything is available and not taken out by hardware revisions. One of those things to mention is the card reader which I did personally use and the PS2 game compatibility. Also it had 4 USB ports so yeah the reason why I like it is because it is the most fully featured console. Of course iirc there is also an 80 GB that's similar with all features too but I don't know the model.

    I have the 80 gig model. It's the CECHE01. I like it better because my CECHA01 went down with YLOD and my CECHH01 was way too loud. The 80 Gig was originally released as the MGS4 Package. The CECHA01 uses the PS2's CPU while the CECHE01 uses partial emulation so the CECHA01 has just marginally better backwards compatibility.

58. 

    CaptainCPS-X
    08-02-2012
    08:56 PM

    58

    Originally Posted by TizzyT It might not be that important to you if you prefer a longer lasting console over a fully featured one. I like it because its the one model where everything is available and not taken out by hardware revisions. One of those things to mention is the card reader which I did personally use and the PS2 game compatibility. Also it had 4 USB ports so yeah the reason why I like it is because it is the most fully featured console. Of course iirc there is also an 80 GB that's similar with all features too but I don't know the model.

    CECHE01 with COK-002 motherboard
    
    SeeYa!
    

59. 

    Psgameboy
    08-03-2012
    01:14 AM

    59

    Originally Posted by TizzyT Besides some hardware revisions the main reason that newer models can't downgrade is because of bootldr+metldr iirc. Those 2 are what defines the lowest firmware a system can go to. PS: iirc the keytable is running out of space, if true Sony will eventually not be able to add new keys anymore at least not in the same way they have been doing.

    I am not worried about Sony to find more way of allocating new page tables .
    
    bootldr and metldr might be the problem of downgrading with their latest patches, though it is intriguing to see if dumping the eid key is possible and then converting to dex and test new downgrades on dex firmwares.
    But I guess the time consuming of writing new drivers to lower fws probably may not be worth it.
    This is also why I think E3 was/is planning to make a mfw based on 3.60-3.73 ,probably 3.66 for minimal fw with full drivers support, to increase their flasher sales.

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    TizzyT
    08-03-2012
    05:43 AM

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    Originally Posted by Psgameboy I am not worried about Sony to find more way of allocating new page tables . bootldr and metldr might be the problem of downgrading with their latest patches, though it is intriguing to see if dumping the eid key is possible and then converting to dex and test new downgrades on dex firmwares. But I guess the time consuming of writing new drivers to lower fws probably may not be worth it. This is also why I think E3 was/is planning to make a mfw based on 3.60-3.73 ,probably 3.66 for minimal fw with full drivers support, to increase their flasher sales.

    I am confused as to what you mean by "drivers", could you explain? Maybe sprx (which I think of more as plugins).

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    Persian McLovin
    08-03-2012
    07:05 PM

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    Originally Posted by BobbyBangin I have the 80 gig model. It's the CECHE01. I like it better because my CECHA01 went down with YLOD and my CECHH01 was way too loud. The 80 Gig was originally released as the MGS4 Package. The CECHA01 uses the PS2's CPU while the CECHE01 uses partial emulation so the CECHA01 has just marginally better backwards compatibility.

    Nah no way bro...I have compared A LOT of PS2 games running on both systems and there are a lot of glitches, framerate issues, texture problems, animation problems etc without the Emotion Engine chip.
    
    Tekken Tag Tournament is a great example:
    
    60gb: 60fps
    80gb: 10fps (no lie)...
    
    There is a huge difference in quality with many games.

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    hintgiver
    08-03-2012
    07:29 PM

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    A used PS2 from ebay cost around 50 bucks. guys just buy one. it is the best console ever made !

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    Persian McLovin
    08-03-2012
    08:14 PM

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    Originally Posted by hintgiver A used PS2 from ebay cost around 50 bucks. guys just buy one. it is the best console ever made !

    Or...have a CECHA00/01 PS3 + a Cobra dongle and enjoy PS1, PS2, PS3 and even some PSP games all in upscaled HD, region-free and selectable all simply from a HDD. Add this with the card-readers, a Blu-Ray player, an all-round media player including SACD support, wireless DualShock 3 connectivity and an exterior which looks luxuriously sexy and amazing even to this day included all in one device.
    
    CECHA00/01 (with Cobra) > ALL.

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    hintgiver
    08-04-2012
    05:34 PM

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    Ps2 games are not about HD gfx. Also dongles are obsolote.

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    CaptainCPS-X
    08-05-2012
    01:17 AM

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    Originally Posted by hintgiver Ps2 games are not about HD gfx. Also dongles are obsolote.

    Sorry but, your statement is not completely accurate. CobraUSB has features that has not been implemented yet by anyone else, so the basic requirement to make something obsolete has not been met in this specific dongle case, for example (to name a 'few' features):
    
    - Load PS1 / PS2 / PS3 / PSP (UMD) disc images (ISO) backups locally, externally or through network share (WiFi / Wired).
    - Load 'Burned' PS1 / PS2 / PS3 discs from the XMB without loading any application to do so, just put the burned disc, and voila.
    
    So basically, when those main features from Cobra are implemented in a open / free manner by someone else, then it will become obsolete.
    
    In other hand, True Blue + Clones are obsolete xD.
    
    EDIT: Oh and about your statement about "PS2 is not about being HD gfx", that is just personal perspective, is like saying this: "Women are not all about Big Boobs and Perfect Curves", if you're satisfied with SD and not HD, then good for you .
    
    EDIT2: No offense to women xD, LOL, I was just using that as analogy.
    
    PS: Don't get me wrong tho', I am not defending Cobra or any other dongle maker, I am just stating some valid points. I wish for a open PS3 scene with every advancement available to all for free, as it should be.
    
    SeeYa!
    

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    jgadviento18
    08-06-2012
    05:02 AM

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    can anyone help me how to install this 3.60 keys to my ps3 slim? so i can play 3.60 games... thanks a lot in advance