• General, X , 19.10.2012

     

    [WARNING] = This is something i wrote and NO it’s not NEWS, don’t like it IGNORE IT.

     

    One video, one thread and many questions arises about this device that will enter into the market or so to speak get released on 12-12-12 (Mayan calendar = End of the world).
    Lurking around the internet i found what so many probably found, those curious enough to try to convince themselves that 3K3Y, AKA = 3KEY is real.

    This device with that enigmatic video has already two resellers, one in Australia another one in China (why im not surprised..).

    Smoke and mirrors?:

    We know as the BIG banner on the top left of HAX says highest hackeable firmware = 3.55 but according to some statements from 3k3y in order to use their device we need:

    • Compatible console: Means that 3.55 is imperative still on this one.
    • Currently firmware 3.55 is required for extracting the drive key: Same ol’ story as always.
    • Once the key has been extracted the PS3 can be updated to any official or custom firmware: No comments.
    • We are working on hardware methods for extracting keys from PS3′s already on 4.x firmware


    They say that they are working on *hardware* methods to extract keys on PS3′s on 4.x. It’s the famous catchphrase, perfect alibi to *hype* or lure possible future buyers.
    Anyone who is on a SCENE board knows that 4.x keys are far from getting leaked or we are close to a solution. Another thing that catched my attention on this particular phrase was:

    PS3′s already on 4.x firmware: Which means that 3K as 4K is still a big interrogation sign. They don’t specify which PS3′s on 4.x just mentioned 4.x. generating more doubts that end in debates that real info or proof on this.

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    Burnett Sonny:

     

    Is the *name* of the one who registered 3KEY domain. Funny tough that if you remove an S from Sonny you get the obvious = Sony…Burnett, Sony. Don’t know if it’s real or not at this stances no one cares about it but a simple detail to remember.

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    Legendsky China reseller:

     

    Already have some news about them and appears some date, apparently they were contacted by 3K3Y team and updated on October 18th about the device being released *soon*.

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    Final words and 3.55 LIMBO (not game):

    The only thing we can do until 12-12-12 is wait from official sitrep from them or just keep speculating about how they will get the keys from 4.x consoles with *hardware methods*. We as USERS grow tired of lies and empty promises and honestly being STUCK in 3.55 as our highest hackeable firmware is getting OLD very old.
    Many promises in the past some way to bypass 4.x barrier but no one wanted to take the risk or was interested in doing something about it. Yeah at this point you will say why you don’t do something about it?.
    I can’t it’s something that’s beyond my *reach*.

    If E3 is involved on this at this rate i don’t care, i really care so to speak to see another gap where some people with *power* can do the hell they want with some device like this (if it’s real) and abuse from markerting whores users that will spend many bucks for something that still works on 3.55.
    They know 3K3Y that stating only that their device only works on 3.55 and they don’t add some message with hope for 4.x users 40% of the user will lost interest in their product.

    Thinking out of the box for a minute, i think this can be real. Like i said when i saw this news posted this can be a similar scenario like when MATRIX CHIP was released on PS2.
    But with being realistic and watching closely what happened with red power among other situations, i can connect the dots even with that useless piece of DRM trash = (Non-existant).

    Like always someone said when words aren’t enough = Only time will tell. 12-12-12

    Regards

    Hellsing9

    Discuss in Forums (193)


  • 193 Comments

    1. Kalberto
      10-19-2012
      12:36 AM
      1

      Sonny is in PHUKET Thailand ?
      or another bigger liar ?

      well, about E3, the bigger liar, today is 2 months + 18 days, where is their promised ?

      NONE

    2. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      12:37 AM
      2

      Originally Posted by Kalberto
      Sonny is in PHUKET Thailand ?
      or another bigger liar ?

      well, about E3, the bigger liar, today is 2 months + 18 days, where is their promised ?

      NONE
      Can be fake = 40% sure.
      But if it's true..yeah Thailand.

      E3 no official reports, no nothing.

    3. sandungas
      10-19-2012
      12:46 AM
      3

      I think the announce of """they are working on hardware methods for extracting keys from PS3′s already on 4.x firmware""" only shows an interest in finding a method
      Is marketing more than a feature


      Btw, i just realized other of the features is "recover from bad flash update"
      How they pretend to restore a corrupted flash... without a flasher ???
      Or this means it has a clip connected to the flash ?

    4. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      12:48 AM
      4

      Originally Posted by sandungas
      I think the announce of """they are working on hardware methods for extracting keys from PS3′s already on 4.x firmware""" only shows an interest in finding a method
      Is marketing more than a feature


      Btw, i just realized other of the features is "recover from bad flash update"
      How they pretend to restore a bad flash... without a flasher ???
      Or this means it has a clip connected to the flash ?
      I saw the video several times but that damn pizza box with the logo don't let you see anything.



      Maybe they are assuming that the one who is getting the product already has a hardware flasher..beats me to it.

    5. sandungas
      10-19-2012
      12:50 AM
      5

      Hmmm, another option is this is refered to the flash in BD drive (so the BD firmware needs to be "modded" and "flashed" in the drive... a la c4eva style)

      Edit:
      Or maybe is refered to the flash in the 3k3y board (where the 3k3y firmware is stored), then it has not importance

    6. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      12:53 AM
      6

      Originally Posted by sandungas
      Hmmm, another option is this is refered to the flash in BD drive (so the BD firmware needs to be "modded" and "flashed" in the drive... a la c4eva style)
      I tought on that option...but idk.
      Maybe c4eva is behind this.

    7. sandungas
      10-19-2012
      01:26 AM
      7

      I have no idea "who"... but thinking in it... the "recover function" probably is refered to both (3k3y firmware and BD firmware)

      In 3k3y firmware is a needed feature, just in case there is a problem with one of the updates in the future... users needs an option to "fix" the device in 5 minutes in a simple way

      In the pictures and video the BD drive is hidden... if the drive used was an "standard" drive there is no reason to hide it
      So this makes me tend to think the drive has been modifyed (actually, if this was a prototype maybe the BD board had lot of wires soldered, this is the kind of ugly things that is better to hide until the "final product" is build)
      Also... i think there is no space behind the ps3 in his photos and video to place a BD drive... maybe only had the BD board

      Btw... they said if the installation is "solderless" ? because when a console device is "soldereless" is one of the most important features to announce... this makes me think 3k3y needs solder work to install (some trickery in the BD drive?)

    8. adam2893
      10-19-2012
      01:43 AM
      8

      This is hilarious at how clueless Helsing9 is, This is real, they are the same company that made the x360key, this isn't a dongle or a ripoff, after installing this you can update to the newest firmware and play pirated games all you want, just no homebrew. It is basically a Bluray drive emulator, this can't be done with software. And when they say about finding a hardware method of getting the 4.XX keys they are only talking about the drive keys not keys that allowed CFW or homebrew. A five minute google search would have got you this information.

    9. bigo93
      10-19-2012
      01:56 AM
      9

      Originally Posted by adam2893
      This is hilarious at how clueless Helsing9 is, This is real, they are the same company that made the x360key, this isn't a dongle or a ripoff, after installing this you can update to the newest firmware and play pirated games all you want, just no homebrew. It is basically a Bluray drive emulator, this can't be done with software. And when they say about finding a hardware method of getting the 4.XX keys they are only talking about the drive keys not keys that allowed CFW or homebrew. A five minute google search would have got you this information.
      And you know because you know the guys personally?

      Just becase it has the word "key" at the end of it and claim to be the makes of the x360key, doesnt mean they are.

      We wont know how this works until it is released or confirmed by several others.

      If this works, most likely $ony will find a way to block it, hence why you can not trust the "will work with all new firmware" claim, the dongles did that, and some still do with their new dongles.

    10. KanjiMan
      10-19-2012
      02:01 AM
      10

      You guys just... 1) Have no faith, 2) Have no idea what your talking about, and 3) Just trying to stir the shyte pot.

      Look up "Xecuter CK3 Probe III" its "HARDWARE" you need to extract a DVD drive key from a 360 drive. You have to remove the drive, and open it up, then you have to touch a certain test point to get a reading while it is powered on. Its going to be a similar method to extract a key from a BD drive.

      As for your domain registry picture thing.... would you want your real name on some thing like that so a certain console maker can trace it back to you and drag you off to court like they do to everyone else.

      And I'm 90% certain (not 100%, only 90% :P) the BD firmware will be untouched; as it will be a pass thru device... you turn it off and it acts completely like stock. The bad flash recovery will more than likely be for the 3k3y itself for updates and improvements and will have nothing to do with the BD drive firmware... why would it? It will be unchanged... what would be there to recover from if its unchanged.

      If this thing actually comes out.... who knows... would be nice if it did... and Im pretty sure it will be all tucked away neatly and unnoticeable when the finished product is installed.

    11. adam2893
      10-19-2012
      02:01 AM
      11

      Originally Posted by bigo93
      And you know because you know the guys personally?

      Just becase it has the word "key" at the end of it and claim to be the makes of the x360key, doesnt mean they are.

      We wont know how this works until it is released or confirmed by several others.

      If this works, most likely $ony will find a way to block it, hence why you can not trust the "will work with all new firmware" claim, the dongles did that, and some still do with their new dongles.
      I don't know the people that make it but I know the guy that is the Australian reseller, trust me or you could email him and ask if it is the same people. Microsoft haven't been able to block it so I doubt Sony will, they most likely wont even be able to detect if one is installed, it totally replaces the BD drive and acts as one instead, Sony wont be able to even tell it will act like a stock drive.. The PS3 Scene has so many terrible ungrateful people in it. It will be a small device that you plug a hard drive into. You guys are clueless

    12. Descrambler
      10-19-2012
      02:04 AM
      12

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      They say that they are working on *hardware* methods to extract keys on PS3′s on 4.x. It’s the famous catchphrase, perfect alibi to *hype* or lure possible future buyers.
      Anyone who is on a SCENE board knows that 4.x keys are far from getting leaked or we are close to a solution. Another thing that catched my attention on this particular phrase was:

      PS3′s already on 4.x firmware: Which means that 3K as 4K is still a big interrogation sign. They don’t specify which PS3′s on 4.x just mentioned 4.x. generating more doubts that end in debates that real info or proof on this.
      They're talking about extracting the DRIVE KEY - and NOT about 4.x FW decryption keys. And on 3.55 it's easy to grab the key via an self signed app. From 3.6 to 4.x the drive has to be dumped like on x360.

      So you're post is complete rubbish - you should correct it or remove it.

    13. sandungas
      10-19-2012
      02:11 AM
      13

      Originally Posted by KanjiMan
      And I'm 90% certain (not 100%, only 90% :P) the BD firmware will be untouched; as it will be a pass thru device... you turn it off and it acts completely like stock.
      Maybe is a BD firmware that behaves as stock when the 3k3y is disabled
      Im not talking about % :D but the fact they "hidden" the drive makes me think there is some wiring in it

    14. KanjiMan
      10-19-2012
      02:20 AM
      14

      Maybe is a BD firmware that behaves as stock when the 3k3y is disabled
      Im not talking about % :D but the fact they "hidden" the drive makes me think there is some wiring in it
      I highly doubt the BD drive firmware will be modded... cause then it makes it detectable on the servers... from what i understand ( if microsh*t can do it... sony can too)

    15. bigo93
      10-19-2012
      02:32 AM
      15

      Originally Posted by adam2893
      I don't know the people that make it but I know the guy that is the Australian reseller, trust me or you could email him and ask if it is the same people. Microsoft haven't been able to block it so I doubt Sony will, they most likely wont even be able to detect if one is installed, it totally replaces the BD drive and acts as one instead, Sony wont be able to even tell it will act like a stock drive.. The PS3 Scene has so many terrible ungrateful people in it. It will be a small device that you plug a hard drive into. You guys are clueless
      Clueless? No. We're just waiting for this to get released, if it does what it says, great, if it can work with all new firmwares, great, if $ony cannot block it great. But the thing hasnt even been released yet and you're defending it just like the dongle-lovers defend their precious dildos.
      As I said let's wait and see what happens, why are you trolling like so early in the game?

    16. santimaster2000
      10-19-2012
      02:36 AM
      16

      Originally Posted by bigo93
      Just becase it has the word "key" at the end of it and claim to be the makes of the x360key, doesnt mean they are.
      Official X360 Key Site (Yes, the name of the site it's the same as the device we're discussing about):

      http://www.xk3y.com/news

      And the official Facebook page, linked directly from the official site:

      http://www.facebook.com/x360key

      THEY ARE THE SAME GUYS !!! And you sir, are just, a moron

    17. adam2893
      10-19-2012
      02:44 AM
      17

      Originally Posted by bigo93
      Clueless? No. We're just waiting for this to get released, if it does what it says, great, if it can work with all new firmwares, great, if $ony cannot block it great. But the thing hasnt even been released yet and you're defending it just like the dongle-lovers defend their precious dildos.
      As I said let's wait and see what happens, why are you trolling like so early in the game?
      Clueless? yes. You can't seem to comprehend much, it is made by the same people that made the x360key that has been proven, it will work on all firmwares unless Sony has a strange way to detect it, which I doubt, because it acts like a stock BD Drive. I am not defending it, I am just trying to educate clueless people like you, even though you could of became educated if you bothered to do 5 minutes of googling. As I said, this is real and works like they say, why are you unable to like comprehend that like is it like so hard?

    18. uncharted angel
      10-19-2012
      03:00 AM
      18

      hellsing9 I read your Article . It was interesting

      They don't publish a photo of the hardware and Always put paper on

      it.

    19. sandungas
      10-19-2012
      03:03 AM
      19

      Originally Posted by adam2893
      why are you unable to like comprehend that like is it like so hard?
      Because "they are a company" (you can replace by "this is sparta"), and companies uses to say what consumers wants to hear

      Is not the first time a product is announced with features that later doesnt works as desired, in this case its needed to wait to see if sony can block it
      Its needed lot of technicall info (that i ignore) to know how this is working and what are the chances for sony to block it

      By now we can complain there is no more info from 3k3y to stop speculations

    20. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      03:06 AM
      20

      [MENTION=147753]adam2893[/MENTION] and [MENTION=43965]Descrambler[/MENTION] the new *wave* of instead of dildos, pizzabox devices lovers.

      Haters gonna hate

      [MENTION=107201]santimaster2000[/MENTION] Sir watch your language don't be a morron, boyo.

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      [MENTION=235910]uncharted angel[/MENTION] They won't post anything or show anything (yet) because:

      Options: (Pick what you like most)

      1) Fear that other ones can hijack their product.
      2) Their product is faker than bluedisk
      3) Create a diversion is easy and lure *fanboys* like [MENTION=147753]adam2893[/MENTION] and [MENTION=43965]Descrambler[/MENTION] to brainwash them.

    21. Cheesethief
      10-19-2012
      03:09 AM
      21

      Calm down people. Never claim Sony can't do anything about it. For all we know, a .01 firmware update will kill it and ban all users using it.

      Sent from my toaster using Tapatalk 2

    22. 4DoorITR
      10-19-2012
      03:14 AM
      22

      Jesus hellsing has wayyyy too much time on his hands.
      By the way the end of the Mayan calendar is 12-21-12.

    23. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      03:14 AM
      23

      Originally Posted by Descrambler
      They're talking about extracting the DRIVE KEY - and NOT about 4.x FW decryption keys. And on 3.55 it's easy to grab the key via an self signed app. From 3.6 to 4.x the drive has to be dumped like on x360.

      So you're post is complete rubbish - you should correct it or remove it.
      You read the warning in RED? or you are like the ones that ask if they can downgrade a 3K series when they have a banner big enough to read it and still asks if he/she can downgrade?.

      Don't like it. ignore.

    24. Kalberto
      10-19-2012
      03:16 AM
      24

      if it'll play games from usb drive then why inside the video, he clicked BD icon to play borderland 2 ? LOL

      100% sure, it was a fake, inside the pizza box, was the BD DRIVE
      You should see the shadow below that pizza box, it's BLACK, it was BD DRIVE
      i can not see 'clearly' the cable usb plug in into that pizza box.

      And I'm laughing to see USB 3.0 LOL



    25. adam2893
      10-19-2012
      03:17 AM
      25

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      [MENTION=147753]adam2893[/MENTION] and [MENTION=43965]Descrambler[/MENTION] the new *wave* of instead of dildos, pizzabox devices lovers.

      Haters gonna hate
      I'm not a hater nor am I hating, I am just pointing out that you spending 5 minutes Googling would have saved you time and you wouldn't have needed to write this article. This isn't even similar to the dongles, the only thing that is similar is that they are both for the PS3's, sorry that you don't understand a scene that you somehow are involved in.

    26. ATHEiST
      10-19-2012
      03:17 AM
      26

      How on earth did this make it on front page?

      The poster doesnt have a clue, This is evident from them not even knowing that the "key" that is referred to is the BD drive/Mobo key, not the key needed to sign homebrew.

      This article needs to be pulled, It just lowers this sites rep and make it looks like a complete n00b.

    27. adam2893
      10-19-2012
      03:18 AM
      27

      Originally Posted by Kalberto
      if it'll play games from usb drive then why inside the video, he clicked BD icon to play bordeland 2 ? LOL

      100% sure, it was a fake, inside the pizza box, was nothing,
      i can not see the cable usb plug in into that pizza box.
      Hahahah why are you people so clueless, he clicked that because as people have pointed out, it is a BD drive emulator, meaning that it works the same way as it would if the disc was in the drive.

    28. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      03:18 AM
      28

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      You read the warning in RED? or you are like the ones that ask if they can downgrade a 3K series when they have a banner big enough to read it and still asks if he/she can downgrade?.

      Don't like it. ignore.
      Originally Posted by 4DoorITR
      Jesus hellsing has wayyyy too much time on his hands.
      By the way the end of the Mayan calendar is 12-21-12.

    29. snow360
      10-19-2012
      03:20 AM
      29

      Firstly: They're talking about extracting the DRIVE KEY - and NOT about 4.x FW decryption keys

      secondly, there are many resellers, OzModChips in australia for example,

      thirdly this is 100% real. its from the xkey team. look at what they have done so far on xbox with ODD. why would they ruin their reputation by making this up....

      lastly, the 3key is a optical disc drive emulator and just like the 360 you can disconnect the BD drive completely and just use the 3key pcb. thats why there is no bd drive in the picture..

    30. ATHEiST
      10-19-2012
      03:20 AM
      30

      Originally Posted by Kalberto
      if it'll play games from usb drive then why inside the video, he clicked BD icon to play bordeland 2 ? LOL

      100% sure, it was a fake, inside the pizza box, was nothing,
      i can not see the cable usb plug in into that pizza box.

      Because the USB drive is pretending to be a BD drive dumbass.

      The whole concept of this is that the 3key is emulating a BD drive, You load up the ISO into it and it pretends to the PS3 system that you have inserted a real disc into a real drive. Its the exact same concept of the Xkey which is for the 360 and works perfectly.

    31. 4DoorITR
      10-19-2012
      03:22 AM
      31

      Originally Posted by Kalberto
      if it'll play games from usb drive then why inside the video, he clicked BD icon to play bordeland 2 ? LOL

      100% sure, it was a fake, inside the pizza box, was nothing,
      i can not see the cable usb plug in into that pizza box.

      Duh maybe because it is a BD emulator? I don't get what is so hard to understand about this guys!!

      Furthermore I clearly see a cable coming out of the "pizza" box. The truth of the matter is if this is indeed made by team xk3y then it is 100% real. Why would they suddenly decide to come up with a bogus product after all this time since the xk3y launch?
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      You read the warning in RED? or you are like the ones that ask if they can downgrade a 3K series when they have a banner big enough to read it and still asks if he/she can downgrade?.

      Don't like it. ignore.
      Kinda hard to ignore when it's on the front page dip****.

    32. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      03:26 AM
      32

      My god...Fake until proof comes out and official rep from them with more details are posted.
      Simple as that.
      Enough room for speculation until 12-12-12.

      It's so hard to understand? [MENTION=175224]ATHEiST[/MENTION] My god!! lol

      ===================

      [MENTION=234602]4DoorITR[/MENTION] Push your luck ****tard

    33. adam2893
      10-19-2012
      03:32 AM
      33

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      My god...Fake until proof comes out and official rep from them with more details are posted.
      Simple as that.
      Enough room for speculation until 12-12-12.

      It's so hard to understand? [MENTION=175224]ATHEiST[/MENTION] My god!! lol

      ===================

      [MENTION=234602]4DoorITR[/MENTION] Push your luck ****tard
      You still think this is fake? ahhahahaha There is already proof that it is 100% real.

    34. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      03:33 AM
      34

      Originally Posted by adam2893
      You still think this is fake? ahhahahaha There is already proof that it is 100% real.
      Post it then.

    35. Goldeneye
      10-19-2012
      03:34 AM
      35

      kids kids...

      go with your own instinct and leave the others alone, lol
      I'm on [MENTION=147753]adam2893[/MENTION]'s and [MENTION=175224]ATHEiST[/MENTION]'s side, and brought 100% trust in the xkey/3k3y team and I believe it's real.. but like always; only time will tell..

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]; why don't you delete, or simply lock the topic before some war is starting, lol

    36. adam2893
      10-19-2012
      03:37 AM
      36

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Post it then.
      The team that is making it is a reputable team, you can also email OzModChips and get them to confirm it. Actually, here is all his posts on a forum that I go on http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...2100&ux=198918

    37. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      03:38 AM
      37

      Originally Posted by Goldeneye
      kids kids...

      go with your own instinct and leave the others alone, lol
      I'm on [MENTION=147753]adam2893[/MENTION]'s and [MENTION=175224]ATHEiST[/MENTION]'s side, and brought 100% trust in the xkey/3k3y team and I believe it's real.. but like always; only time will tell..

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]; why don't you delete, or simply lock the topic before some war is starting, lol
      I love when people jumps into conclusions so early screaming *IT'S REAL* that's why i leave this type of threads open until some of them get locked.
      Also i love the *Fanboys* of xkey/3k3y team that are jumping too into conclusions like they know them personally.

      For me a simple pizzabox and conjetures for the time being, so in short = FAKE until real RAW proof appears in any scene site.

      Well if you think and have real proof that this device exists, post it. Otherwise..keep the debate up.

    38. sandungas
      10-19-2012
      03:46 AM
      38

      Fight !

      Is fake ! (see spoiler)
      [SPOILER]No, seriously is true

      [SPOILER]Or fake hmmm

      [SPOILER]definitivelly true

      [SPOILER]Or fake

      [SPOILER]Ahhhh !!! [/SPOILER][/SPOILER][/SPOILER][/SPOILER][/SPOILER]

    39. adam2893
      10-19-2012
      03:49 AM
      39

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      I love when people jumps into conclusions so early screaming *IT'S REAL* that's why i leave this type of threads open until some of them get locked.
      Also i love the *Fanboys* of xkey/3k3y team that are jumping too into conclusions like they know them personally.

      For me a simple pizzabox and conjetures for the time being, so in short = FAKE until real RAW proof appears in any scene site.

      Well if you think and have real proof that this device exists, post it. Otherwise..keep the debate up.

      Nice infraction because I don't agree with you, it is true. There is proof, you just can't comprehend it.

    40. Cheesethief
      10-19-2012
      03:52 AM
      40

      Okie dokie. You guys can all shut the hell up. Whether you realize it or not, I am not sure, since it kind of seems you have a walnut for a brain, but Hellsing9 is a moderator. You have stated your opinion, at this point your are just trolling and I would not be surprised if ANY forum staff bans the lot of you. You are creating drama for no other reason than to create drama. Or perhaps you are trying to promote the product due to being on their payroll.

      3k3y is no doubt in my mind real. As real as the dongle dildos that came before it. But it is useless right now. Useless because it requires 3.55. Useless because Sony will probably be able to stop it. Useless because we have DEX. (Don't give me the sh!t about needing patches, most of all games are released unfinished by the devs who then release a patch day one).

    41. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      03:53 AM
      41

      Originally Posted by adam2893
      Nice infraction because I don't agree with you, it is true. There is proof, you just can't comprehend it.
      Where? You state that there is proof i don't see it posted still you are spouting and defending something that you keep saying is real but you don't show anything to backup your own words.

      Why? because is fake until proven that is real (if it's real).

      It's so easy

    42. Sidewinder_2011
      10-19-2012
      03:53 AM
      42

      i think this has came about because of the dex conversion or somethink to do with dex on how they found this . what they say is does is basicly what a dex BD Emulator apart from u use mm or pc to change the game where this uses a remote type box . away no homebrew . no linux no going up and down fw , nah not for me , i wont be getting it ,

    43. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      03:54 AM
      43

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      i think this has came about because of the dex conversion or somethink to do with dex on how they found this . what they say is does is basicly what a dex BD Emulator apart from u use mm or pc to change the game where this uses a remote type box .
      E3 team mentioned something like that months ago.

      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      Okie dokie. You guys can all shut the hell up. Whether you realize it or not, I am not sure, since it kind of seems you have a walnut for a brain, but Hellsing9 is a moderator. You have stated your opinion, at this point your are just trolling and I would not be surprised if ANY forum staff bans the lot of you. You are creating drama for no other reason than to create drama. Or perhaps you are trying to promote the product due to being on their payroll.

      3k3y is no doubt in my mind real. As real as the dongle dildos that came before it. But it is useless right now. Useless because it requires 3.55. Useless because Sony will probably be able to stop it. Useless because we have DEX. (Don't give me the sh!t about needing patches, hell, most of all games released these days get them day one since devs never finish a game before releasing it).
      Fanboys i don't blame them...they are blind.
      I bet they don't even know WTF is DEX is soooooooo hard to install it. LOL

      We have so many tools and this piece of crap with size of pizza box with a video appears.
      Red team gone rogue...
      E3 team too.

      But some users prefers sacrifice the commodity of someone patching the games or an easy conversion method released than doing the **** themselves.
      If this is real they will pay and we enter into a vicious circle again...not dildos, now pizza boxes.

    44. adam2893
      10-19-2012
      03:55 AM
      44

      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      Okie dokie. You guys can all shut the hell up. Whether you realize it or not, I am not sure, since it kind of seems you have a walnut for a brain, but Hellsing9 is a moderator. You have stated your opinion, at this point your are just trolling
      And he isn't trolling? He knows it's real he just wont go back on what he said. I wouldn't take Helsing9's word for it, he couldn't even understand that they meant drive keys and not keys to run homebrew when it was quite obvious what they meant.

    45. Cheesethief
      10-19-2012
      03:58 AM
      45

      Originally Posted by adam2893
      And he isn't trolling? He knows it's real he just wont go back on what he said. I wouldn't take Helsing9's word for it, he couldn't even understand that they meant drive keys and not keys to run homebrew when it was quite obvious what they meant.
      "Opinions are like as$holes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks."

    46. Sidewinder_2011
      10-19-2012
      03:59 AM
      46

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      E3 team mentioned something like that months ago.
      i must of miss that bit . wow i missed somethink for change , i do have a life way from the pc and ps3 at last

    47. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      04:02 AM
      47

      Originally Posted by adam2893
      And he isn't trolling? He knows it's real he just wont go back on what he said. I wouldn't take Helsing9's word for it, he couldn't even understand that they meant drive keys and not keys to run homebrew when it was quite obvious what they meant.
      Check my sig and then talk all **** you want, not my *badge* as moderator.

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      i must of miss that bit . wow i missed somethink for change , i do have a life way from the pc and ps3 at last
      We are on the same boat I have good memory...i think.

    48. sandungas
      10-19-2012
      04:09 AM
      48

      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      3k3y is no doubt in my mind real. As real as the dongle dildos that came before it. But it is useless right now. Useless because it requires 3.55. Useless because Sony will probably be able to stop it. Useless because we have DEX. (Don't give me the sh!t about needing patches, hell, most of all games released these days get them day one since devs never finish a game before releasing it).
      I also think is true, initially because this blue board at the right, it seems to be designed to fit in the ribbon cables (is designed for ps3... or they was lucky in finding one with this connectors). This board is "intercepting" the communitacions between motherboard<---->BD and the key they are talking about i think is used to encrypt this communications

      The "thing" under the paper printed with the logo is supposed to be the "main board of 3k3y" (with an operative system based on linux), it needs to be connected with the blue board (so the blue board has another connector with a cord joining both boards together that we cant see)

      The other visible parts is the black cord at the left that goes to the displays/game selector buttons
      This goes to the main 3k3y board (under the paper), and this cable are the (inputs<---buttons ...and... outputs--->display) directly connected to a microcontroller under the printed paper

      So well... initially the design looks legit

      Edit:
      And yep, is better dont subestimate sony, i think there are no checks to the disc structure in ps3 (like xbox360 does), but they can update the BD firmware, add more keys, or who knows...

    49. r07f1
      10-19-2012
      04:31 AM
      49

      sony shmony... i for one dont care about this ****

      on the other hand this will clean the scene a bit since most of the warez ppl will jump the 355 boat!
      so probably no more kids "OMG can i haz COD?!" wich is good

    50. Kalberto
      10-19-2012
      04:35 AM
      50

      12-12-12
      time will tell, it's true or not.
      BD emulator ?
      he was using BD original disc to play it !

      why he did not opened, what is inside that pizza box ?
      no one could make a clone for that device, just only to look at it, without touching and without examine it !

    51. snow360
      10-19-2012
      05:01 AM
      51

      they are copying the xkey logo in the picture and video and also using the xkey name many times in the description. dont you think the xkey team would of came out and disowned it if it werent theirs?

      ozmodchips who is one of the main beta testers for xkey, who also got his hands on the original Jailbreak usb before anyone and got his hands on the xkey before anyone and uploaded many videos on youtube before anyone has confirmed its real and is giving regular updates on it on the whirlpool website

    52. vb_encryption_vb
      10-19-2012
      05:06 AM
      52

      I thought Team Jungle from (xbox 360) and more importantly C4eva ( LT 3.0 ) was working on cracking the blu-ray drive. The xbox scene has been dead for some months now, I wonder if they have been working on the ps3 drive as well. C4eva keeps his mouth shut about everything and don't leak anything so there is really no telling. Maybe he is behind it though. Pure speculation and rambling.

    53. snow360
      10-19-2012
      05:10 AM
      53

      c4eva is working on the 1175 drive. he posted an update last week saying LT3.0 is finished for 1175 and its going into testing. 360 scene is well alive and far from dead. TX are working on FUSION and they also just yesterday announced something massive coming. obviously you arent following the 360 scene close enough.

      c4eva stated over a year ago (before there was security updates and 2 new 360 dvd drives to crack) that he would take a look at the PS3 bd drive when hes finished with the 360 scene. but that is now far from happening

    54. Inspectah_Deck
      10-19-2012
      05:14 AM
      54

      hellsing, i read your big fat red warning and all, but please, PLEASE stop with these conspiracy theories!
      You only confuse users with this stuff.

      Your "articles" only show, that you have no clue about the modding scenes as a whole, past modding scenes and the people that are and where involved in these scenes.
      You only seem to know the PS3 scene (which is, i have to admit, the worst console scene i ever followed since the GBA) and because of the PS3 scenes f*cked up past, you see conspiracy theories and rip-offs everywhere.

      If you would know your stuff:
      - You would know Eurasia and modroberts reputation.
      - You would know team xkey/wode and their reputation in the wii/xbox scenes.
      - You would know, that c4eva makes business with TX and tried to badmouth xkey before its launch. (simply, because it´s competition to TX products)
      - You would know, that E3 team has nothing to do with team xkey/wode
      - You would know, that "4.xx BD-Drive key extraction" is most propably only marketing speech at this time.

      So you always scream for proof?
      There is proof everywhere, you just have to follow the different scenes for years and all the bits you get here and there reveal the bigger picture.

      All i can say is:
      Follow the xbox/wii scenes... for years.
      See all the different teams, different products, different statements, different developments, different and recurring people.

      And when you would have done this the past years, you wouldn´t doubt one minute, that 3k3y is real.
      And you wouldn´t write such outrageous "articles" like this one.

      So please don´t be immediately offended like usually and take this post as well-intentioned criticism.

    55. snow360
      10-19-2012
      05:17 AM
      55

      well said!!!

      simply not understanding how a ODD works by confusing the Drive key and Main Private ps3 key shows you dont know much about team xkey/3key or ODD operation...

    56. GregoryRasputin
      10-19-2012
      05:24 AM
      56

      Originally Posted by Inspectah_Deck
      So please don´t be immediately offended like usually and take this post as well-intentioned criticism.
      Exactly!!

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] i never tell you what you shouldn't write on the front page, but if you ar going to write articles like this, expect criticism and learn to take that criticism, no point lashing out and infraction, because someone told you that you were/are wrong.

      Also you say ignore, but its on the front page, if you had wanted people to ignore, you could have simply made a forum thread instead of front paging it, putting it on the front pages grabs peoples attention and makes them read it.

    57. peshellas
      10-19-2012
      05:47 AM
      57

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]

      sorry if what i post is already written i am at work and cant read all the comments.and cause i want noone to bash me i clarify now that this is only my opinion.

      1. When they say 4.x KEY they mean bluray drive key cause as they said you need 3.55 to get the drive key(which makes sense since this is a blu-ray hack),and what they mean is that if you are on 4.x OFW you cant use peek&poke(?) to get it with their method.Their best bet would to either use a flasher to downgrade to 3.55 and get the key and then go to the 4.x, or use a diferent ps3 of the same code(eg CEHG) that is on 3.55 to switch drives get the key for the 3K3Y and then reconnect and use it on the original PS3.

      2. i am fiercly against drm solutions that were only drmed for money, but dont missunderstand, this is not another drm from my point of view.It is a hack that can NOT be done via software for free.What remains to be seen is if they will keep it only for themselves to manufacture, or they will release the scemes for anyone to DIY.

      3.All we can do is wait for the release, i just really hope that these guys are not connected with TB,BlueDisc or COBRA (much lessthough, since they at least offered some unique features to pay them for not new eboots etc).

      Just My 2 Cents

    58. Ubefuct
      10-19-2012
      06:55 AM
      58

      If you classifly multiman as a software drive emulator(mounting an image to the drive), and this new device is a hardware drive emulator.... How can you say this cannot be done with software when most of you are already. Basically this is just taking multiman or similar out of the ps3 so you can update instead of someone rewriting the software. Im not saying this is a bad device or bad mouthing anyone, just pointing out what I thought was obvious

    59. donglehater
      10-19-2012
      07:27 AM
      59

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]

      Those of us who have been here any length of time at all understand that this post like many of your posts are purely your thoughts and opinions about an upcoming product that sounds too good to be true and you have all the right to be skeptical if indeed you are. Time will tell us all if it is indeed real...................I hope it is.

      Keep your chin up and keep doing what ya been doing.

    60. Ada Love Lace
      10-19-2012
      07:32 AM
      60

      Originally Posted by Ubefuct
      If you classifly multiman as a software drive emulator(mounting an image to the drive), and this new device is a hardware drive emulator.... How can you say this cannot be done with software when most of you are already. Basically this is just taking multiman or similar out of the ps3 so you can update instead of someone rewriting the software. Im not saying this is a bad device or bad mouthing anyone, just pointing out what I thought was obvious

      I agree with you, it s something we can already do (online+new FW/games) and this device just look like not necessary and poor featured device.
      It s bad device because it make even more politics any release around fix, dex fw, and online pass (and even ps1/ps2 iso)
      So if this device was release today, no one with common sense really need because it can be done for free and without any risk than loosing homebrew / need hardware downgrade.
      Also it s up to Sony to block it but might be easy for them (and the team to find if possible, solution if they didn t vanish as TB team).
      So yes, it s hardware but don t offer nothing new (as already pointed out, this device was probably ready since a while), make any release from ps1 to debug FW more complex, and risk to be ban/block by Sony. It s really sad to see there are nothing better.
      And i forgot homebrew part.

    61. 4DoorITR
      10-19-2012
      07:45 AM
      61

      Originally Posted by Ada Love Lace
      So if this device was release today, no one with common sense really need because it can be done for free and without any risk than loosing homebrew / need hardware downgrade.
      Care to divulge the method how this same outcome can be done for free? And no DEX does not give you the same results.

    62. Sidewinder_2011
      10-19-2012
      07:50 AM
      62

      Originally Posted by 4DoorITR
      Care to divulge the method how this same outcome can be done for free? And no DEX does not give you the same results.
      dex gives u better results

    63. 4DoorITR
      10-19-2012
      07:52 AM
      63

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      dex gives u better results
      Once again my question is avoided. How so?

      Better results as in playing around with slots and partitions? Reminds me of screwing around with eboots.

    64. Sidewinder_2011
      10-19-2012
      07:57 AM
      64

      Originally Posted by 4DoorITR
      Once again my question is avoided. How so?

      Better results as in playing around with slots and partitions? Reminds me of screwing around with eboots.
      dont take long to sort out, whats so many minutes sorting hdd . u still have to sort out the hdd with 3key and u also save money ,also homebrew , linux , going up and down fw as u please with out a flasher . and showtime , no cinavia protection

      so really dex has got better results

    65. w0313
      10-19-2012
      07:59 AM
      65

      child, do not pour your milkshake on the opened console coz it'll permabrick it..

    66. Inspectah_Deck
      10-19-2012
      08:00 AM
      66

      [MENTION=228571]Ada Love Lace[/MENTION]:

      I don´t get it, how can you compare a hardware mod with softmod?
      They are different approaches, have different pro/cons and can coexist happily.
      Look at the wii, there are modchips and softmods, look at the 360, there are RGH/JTAG and drive-flash.
      It´s the same like CFW and 3k3y.
      You have to pay for hardmod, that has always been that way, will always be that way and no one ever complained about it.
      Only here in the PS3 scene all the morons that have no clue whine about it.

      And no, True Blue is NO hardmod. It was a scam.

    67. 4DoorITR
      10-19-2012
      08:03 AM
      67

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      dont take long to sort out whats a so many minutes and saving money also homebrew , linux , going up and down fw as u please with out a flasher .

      so really dex has go better results
      Oh the homebrew agruement again. Not even going there when the homebrew scene for the PS3 is really lacking. And the only reason you have to "go up and down" in firmwares is to revert to 3.55 for homebrew, so yet another moot point. Sorry, I'm just not buying it. However you are entitled to your opinion.

      I am looking forward to being able to use the store again.

    68. Sidewinder_2011
      10-19-2012
      08:04 AM
      68

      Originally Posted by Inspectah_Deck
      [MENTION=228571]Ada Love Lace[/MENTION]:

      I don´t get it, how can you compare a hardware mod with softmod?
      They are different approaches, have different pro/cons and can coexist happily.
      Look at the wii, there are modchips and softmods, look at the 360, there are RGH/JTAG and drive-flash.
      It´s the same like CFW and 3k3y.
      You have to pay for hardmod, that has always been that way, will always be that way and no one ever complained about it.
      Only here in the PS3 scene all the morons that have no clue whine about it.
      with xbox isnt the more options when u hardware mod it than softmod it ?

      with the ps3 there is more options with soft modding than hardware modding

    69. Ada Love Lace
      10-19-2012
      08:09 AM
      69

      Originally Posted by 4DoorITR
      Once again my question is avoided. How so?

      Better results as in playing around with slots and partitions? Reminds me of screwing around with eboots.
      Or playing around with screw driver and Sony watching you?

      This device look like the last rush to make money (they did not release it before because TB in market was even "better" , plug and play and no risk to loose homebrew or 3.55)
      It s better to buy second hand ps3 and the 2 or 3 games you really mind to play online and not wait for update or online pass or FW debug etc..., so you don t have to mind Sony is going to ban you (they will not, only ban really evil bad people) or block the device (they ll, just for the fun of it).
      Even it was for free, i ll not consider to have it on my ps3 with the risk involved.
      The only thing who can save this device will be to able to work on 4.25+FW.
      And that device trying to make money give more heat to the scene ( free resigned eboot, pass phase, FW debug etc...)

    70. tjhooker73
      10-19-2012
      08:09 AM
      70

      Burnett Sonny:



      Is the *name* of the one who registered 3KEY domain. Funny tough that if you remove an S from Sonny you get the obvious = Sony
      Do you?

      /10char

    71. Sidewinder_2011
      10-19-2012
      08:10 AM
      71

      Originally Posted by 4DoorITR
      Oh the homebrew agruement again. Not even going there when the homebrew scene for the PS3 is really lacking. And the only reason you have to "go up and down" in firmwares is to revert to 3.55 for homebrew, so yet another moot point. Sorry, I'm just not buying it. However you are entitled to your opinion.

      I am looking forward to being able to use the store again.
      when u can have hombrew on dex above 3.55 . and psn is over rated like many ppl updated to latest fw to play on line and then when back for hombrew and linux and backups . also i got psn 24/7 and store on my other ps3 last think i brought from the psn was a map pack for socom and thats the only i play online which is a very old game .

      also u dont even know that sony could very easyly banned your ps3 from psn etc , so where your store then . .

      if people want back ups and psn then yeah get it but i dont recon it would last long having psn . remember the ps3 does phone home
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by tjhooker73
      Do you?

      /10char
      lmfao .

      if u remove the b from Burnett u get xbox . can u see that

      .

    72. Inspectah_Deck
      10-19-2012
      08:13 AM
      72

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      with xbox isnt the more options when u hardware mod it than softmod it ?

      with the ps3 there is more options with soft modding than hardware modding
      With the xbox you have three choices:

      "Softmod" (only needs hardware for flashing):
      FW-Flash: play burned games, no homebrew, play online.

      Hardmod:
      RGH/Jtag: play games from hdd, homebrew, no online.
      xkey/wasabi: play games from hdd, no homebrew, play online.

    73. Sidewinder_2011
      10-19-2012
      08:18 AM
      73

      Originally Posted by Inspectah_Deck
      With the xbox you have three choices:

      "Softmod" (only needs hardware for flashing):
      FW-Flash: play burned games, no homebrew, play online.

      Hardmod:
      RGH/Jtag: play games from hdd, homebrew, no online.
      xkey/wasabi: play games from hdd, no homebrew, play online.
      if i did get a xbox " which i wont " i would get RGH/Jtag , as its looks like its got more options for me than softmoding it.

      in the end of the day ,its all down to personal preferences of what the want there console to do

    74. 4DoorITR
      10-19-2012
      08:21 AM
      74

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      when u can have hombrew on dex above 3.55 . and psn is over rated like many ppl updated to latest fw to play on line and then when back for hombrew and linux and backups . also i got psn 24/7 and store on my other ps3 last think i brought from the psn was a map pack for socom and thats the only i play online which is a very old game .
      Homebrew is overrated. How long have we had the ability and what has come of it? Name one piece of homebrew that you find necessary without this BD emulator.

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      also u dont even know that sony could very easyly banned your ps3 from psn etc , so where your store then . .
      So you work for Sony now, eh?

    75. Sidewinder_2011
      10-19-2012
      08:23 AM
      75

      Originally Posted by 4DoorITR
      So you work for Sony now, eh?
      yeah i work for sony now lol i get paid from sony to help people with there problems on there mod ps3 on a ps3 hack site .
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by 4DoorITR
      Homebrew is overrated. How long have we had the ability and what has come of it? Name one piece of homebrew that you find necessary without this BD emulator.
      .
      all homebrew for me as i love them . like i said early its down to want people what from there ps3

    76. r07f1
      10-19-2012
      08:27 AM
      76

      [MENTION=234602]4DoorITR[/MENTION] multiman / emulators / "Boot OtherOS" is nice to... Showtime

      That you only use your console for warez and don't even realize that multiman is a piece of brew it's another story...

    77. Ada Love Lace
      10-19-2012
      08:28 AM
      77

      Originally Posted by Inspectah_Deck
      [MENTION=228571]Ada Love Lace[/MENTION]:

      I don´t get it, how can you compare a hardware mod with softmod?
      They are different approaches, have different pro/cons and can coexist happily.
      Look at the wii, there are modchips and softmods, look at the 360, there are RGH/JTAG and drive-flash.
      It´s the same like CFW and 3k3y.
      You have to pay for hardmod, that has always been that way, will always be that way and no one ever complained about it.
      Only here in the PS3 scene all the morons that have no clue whine about it.

      And no, True Blue is NO hardmod. It was a scam.
      It s not about the money it s about making money when you should keep it as hobby.
      This device can do: playing new games and online from usb, Well, as already said, DEX do it for free and better.

      About XBOX 360: well, one advance user sell one "jtag" exploit to Microsoft because it was not good enough for selling hardware his team was doing (or planning, don t know remember).

      About WII, same story less or more with same user/group who really liked to sell hardware (and in public saying pirate adn the device was bad thing)
      It s same user/group really talented and famous (but not in good way) on PS3.

      Of course, without name or detail you can just said it s rumor or i created it but looking it s what is around the teams, having money around etc.. only create most of the case useless product, dramas and politics.

      Even flasher hardware should have been avoid in PS3 if CEX/DEX was released before (and only be good and used by small group of advance users as it was).

    78. FrogDR
      10-19-2012
      08:33 AM
      78

      Originally Posted by Ada Love Lace
      Or playing around with screw driver and Sony watching you?

      This device look like the last rush to make money (they did not release it before because TB in market was even "better" , plug and play and no risk to loose homebrew or 3.55)
      It s better to buy second hand ps3 and the 2 or 3 games you really mind to play online and not wait for update or online pass or FW debug etc..., so you don t have to mind Sony is going to ban you (they will not, only ban really evil bad people) or block the device (they ll, just for the fun of it).
      Even it was for free, i ll not consider to have it on my ps3 with the risk involved.
      The only thing who can save this device will be to able to work on 4.25+FW.
      And that device trying to make money give more heat to the scene ( free resigned eboot, pass phase, FW debug etc...)
      One more thing. When you have TB you must wait for eboots. Many time long time without it. With 3K3Y you don`t even think about any eboots and patches :> Download and play isos :>

    79. Ada Love Lace
      10-19-2012
      08:37 AM
      79

      Originally Posted by FrogDR
      One more thing. When you have TB you must wait for eboots. Many time long time without it. With 3K3Y you don`t even think about any eboots and patches :> Download and play isos :>
      Yes, true, you rather think when your device will be block and if the team is gonna find any solution (and hope they don t vanish as every fews months such team do) so you are not stuck into ofw 4.25+.

    80. r07f1
      10-19-2012
      08:41 AM
      80

      Originally Posted by Ada Love Lace
      stuck into ofw 4.25+.
      Bam! that is the thing that makes me fear this ODDE... can you imagine being stuck in OFW just after you were living the good life of CFW/DEX?


      Oh and also there is this misterious 4.x cfw that was teased in ps3devwiki's git server... wonder what happened to that :S

    81. ocam
      10-19-2012
      08:41 AM
      81

      Originally Posted by 4DoorITR
      Oh the homebrew agruement again. Not even going there when the homebrew scene for the PS3 is really lacking. And the only reason you have to "go up and down" in firmwares is to revert to 3.55 for homebrew, so yet another moot point. Sorry, I'm just not buying it. However you are entitled to your opinion.

      I am looking forward to being able to use the store again.
      Well, I use Showtime daily and it's homebrew...

    82. w0313
      10-19-2012
      08:42 AM
      82

      if they're the same team from XBOX scene, can't they make it smaller??or external location if it is too big?well, i just don't like topless lol..

    83. rektalbox
      10-19-2012
      08:53 AM
      83

      If I remove an "S" from "Sonny" I get onny, not Sony.

    84. w0313
      10-19-2012
      08:55 AM
      84

      Originally Posted by rektalbox
      If I remove an "S" from "Sonny" I get onny, not Sony.
      i agree with that...

    85. uncharted angel
      10-19-2012
      09:03 AM
      85

      It may be true or fake.

      All great works take time to finish.

      We must wait until 12.12.12

    86. w0313
      10-19-2012
      09:18 AM
      86

      Originally Posted by uncharted angel
      It may be true or fake.

      All great works take time to finish.

      We must wait until 12.(4)12.(4)12.(4)
      I fixed that for u,..

    87. houtei
      10-19-2012
      09:22 AM
      87

      this is retarded
      https://www.facebook.com/x360key
      http://www.x360keyforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7853

      I guess its been that bad on the ps3 scene you just assume everything's fake even when its clear its not... That article is just so misinformed i am not even going there...

    88. donglehater
      10-19-2012
      09:32 AM
      88

      Originally Posted by w0313
      I fixed that for u,..
      Your humor/wit/intellect regarding the following escapes me:

      Originally Posted by uncharted angel
      It may be true or fake.

      All great works take time to finish.

      You now edited his previous post 12.12.12 to include the 4's

      We must wait until 12.(4)12.(4)12.(4)

      Im normally kind of perceptive, but your 4's went straight over me.

    89. w0313
      10-19-2012
      09:37 AM
      89

      Originally Posted by donglehater
      Your humor/wit/intellect regarding the following escapes me:

      Originally Posted by uncharted angel
      It may be true or fake.

      All great works take time to finish.

      You now edited his previous post 12.12.12 to include the 4's

      We must wait until 12.(4)12.(4)12.(4)

      Im normally kind of perceptive, but your 4's went straight over me.
      so, will I get banned for that? please, don't.

    90. donglehater
      10-19-2012
      09:41 AM
      90

      Originally Posted by w0313
      so, will I get banned for that? please, don't.
      First of all I have no desire or way of banning anyone, but I assume you know that and are just being sarcastic..............was just kind of hoping to get an explenation to your cryptic 4's as to what was meant by your, "fixing" of his post.

    91. Bereuza
      10-19-2012
      09:42 AM
      91

      I've seen a lot of people lashing out at ps3crunch in here but geez... with ''threads'' like this and ''moderators'' like that... there's no argument is there? In my country we have a saying... ''if you've nothing useful to say, keep your mouth shut.'' So simple, yet so neglected.

    92. shakirmole
      10-19-2012
      09:43 AM
      92

      whether its true or not, this thread reminds u of one think:
      dont trust everything u hear in the ps3 scene. nothing is true.

      e3 with their "promises", true blue with their fixes, red-i-dont-know-what dongle, deank and so on. this may be true but dont get ur hopes up is all what is being said.

    93. w0313
      10-19-2012
      09:46 AM
      93

      Originally Posted by donglehater
      First of all I have no desire or way of banning anyone, but I assume you know that and are just being sarcastic..............was just kind of hoping to get an explenation to your cryptic 4's as to what was meant by your, "fixing" of his post.
      well thanks m8, i just found these 4's on other thread originally posted by LY_IS_GOD i just reposted it..credit to him, cheers.

    94. GregoryRasputin
      10-19-2012
      09:47 AM
      94

      Originally Posted by Bereuza
      I've seen a lot of people lashing out at ps3crunch in here but geez... with ''threads'' like this and ''moderators'' like that... there's no argument is there? In my country we have a saying... ''if you've nothing useful to say, keep your mouth shut.'' So simple, yet so neglected.
      I guess you should take that advice yourself

      This article was an opinion piece, [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] basically said that at the start, it wasn't meant nor aimed to be 100% fact, it was created for discussion.

      To all the people crying and moaning about this thread, just stop it already.

    95. donglehater
      10-19-2012
      09:51 AM
      95

      Originally Posted by Bereuza
      I've seen a lot of people lashing out at ps3crunch in here but geez... with ''threads'' like this and ''moderators'' like that... there's no argument is there? In my country we have a saying... ''if you've nothing useful to say, keep your mouth shut.'' So simple, yet so neglected.
      I'm kind of interested in what country you actually come from so later I can avoid it on my travels. In the United States a persons opinion is precisely that.............their opinion..........It holds no more weight than anyone else's opinion. They state it.............you listen.................you either agree or disagree............its simple............but always they are free to express it.

      As for PS3Crunch.......................F@cktards abound there.

    96. GregoryRasputin
      10-19-2012
      09:53 AM
      96

      Originally Posted by donglehater
      I'm kind of interested in what country you actually come from so later I can avoid it on my travels. In the United States a persons opinion is precisely that.............their opinion..........It holds no more weight than anyone else's opinion. They state it.............you listen.................you either agree or disagree............its simple............but always they are free to express it.

      As for PS3Crunch.......................F@cktards abound there.
      lol his saying looks like a worldwide saying.....

    97. Simonbuck
      10-19-2012
      09:55 AM
      97

      Originally Posted by houtei
      this is retarded

      http://www.x360keyforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7853

      I guess its been that bad on the ps3 scene you just assume everything's fake even when its clear its not... That article is just so misinformed i am not even going there...
      It must be true !!!!!!!!! as Crunch is listed as the source on your link

    98. GraVoX959
      10-19-2012
      10:14 AM
      98

      Wow... seems like the fellow Aussies are the only ones with brains in this thread (whirlpool ftw!!)
      Half of you bag out crunch but youre just as retarded as some of the idiots over there..

      duhhhh this isnt real (IT IS)
      duhhhh this could get patched (how? it perfectly simulates the optical drive)
      duhhhh this could still get patched (the only way is if Sony removes Blu-Ray TOTALLY)
      duhhhh I'll wait for a software version (oh yeah because you can run code on OFW that sits in the optical drive ribbon cable and directs everything to your HDD)
      duhhhh this is like TB, the HW is not needed (The HW is overpriced for what it is but it IS needed, half the code is for SATAtoUSB and the other half is replicating the drive calls/api's whatever the hell they are)

      like a bloody village idiot convention in here!

    99. donglehater
      10-19-2012
      10:22 AM
      99

      Originally Posted by GraVoX959
      Wow... seems like the fellow Aussies are the only ones with brains in this thread (whirlpool ftw!!)
      Half of you bag out crunch but youre just as retarded as some of the idiots over there..

      duhhhh this isnt real (IT IS)
      duhhhh this could get patched (how? it perfectly simulates the optical drive)
      duhhhh this could still get patched (the only way is if Sony removes Blu-Ray TOTALLY)
      duhhhh I'll wait for a software version (oh yeah because you can run code on OFW that sits in the optical drive ribbon cable and directs everything to your HDD)
      duhhhh this is like TB, the HW is not needed (The HW is overpriced for what it is but it IS needed, half the code is for SATAtoUSB and the other half is replicating the drive calls/api's whatever the hell they are)

      like a bloody village idiot convention in here!
      We really dont have a lot of villages in the US anymore.

      Im more like the trailor park idiot.

    100. Ubefuct
      10-19-2012
      10:36 AM
      100

      sony can't patch it...........where have I heard that before.
      I always thought questioning what you hear and not just believing whatever you feel plausible a smart thing. Not the other way around

    101. GregoryRasputin
      10-19-2012
      10:36 AM
      101

      Originally Posted by GraVoX959
      Wow... seems like the fellow Aussies are the only ones with brains in this thread (whirlpool ftw!!)
      It must be all that sheep shagging keeping you Kangaroos brainy....




      Originally Posted by GraVoX959
      Half of you bag out crunch but youre just as retarded as some of the idiots over there..
      The ones that "bag out crunch", are not the ones with the stupid comments, i have stated that this is indeed genuine, so don't label everyone the same..



      Originally Posted by GraVoX959
      like a bloody village idiot convention in here!
      Well you are here

    102. nyarrgh
      10-19-2012
      10:40 AM
      102

      Originally Posted by santimaster2000
      Official X360 Key Site (Yes, the name of the site it's the same as the device we're discussing about):

      http://www.xk3y.com/news

      And the official Facebook page, linked directly from the official site:

      http://www.facebook.com/x360key

      THEY ARE THE SAME GUYS !!! And you sir, are just, a moron
      yes, that's how I found it too. Also, if it works like the Xk3y for xbox, Firmware for the drive and the PS3 will not be touched. The firmware for the drive will be "emulated" using a micro linux board that will be a middleman for the drive and the motherboard. It can also be turned off so the drive will act as if directly connected. only the Drive KEY is needed so the hardware can present itself to the motherboard as the correct drive.

      They were able to do the exact same thing for the XBOX. The differences are that its a Bluray drive, which can be treated the same way as a DVDrom from the motherboard perspective but with a different firmware, only with lots and lots more sectors. The differences in technology are abstracted by the drive itself so to the motherboard, what's connected is a SATA optical device.

      I'm pretty sure they have other stuff to worry about, like different DRM methods. The XBOX itself changed AP's a couple of times since the xkey came out. They were able to update the "OS" to handle it.

      All in all, both of them (if/when it comes out) are Sata Optical drive emulators. by the way, the Xkey wasn't even the first Optical drive emulator. It was preceded by a long time by some for the Wii. Like the "wode jukebox" and the Flatmii.

      It is not so unbelievable that this can also work on the PS3. Remember, This is working on the XBOX360 even though nobody has the "Keys" to the current xbox firmware. Just the "Key" to the Drive. The "key" to the drive also does not mean exactly the same as the encryption key, it's more the "Identification Key", that the motherboard expects from the drive.

      I've had the Xk3y for a while now, but I don't think I'll be buying the PS3 version though. The Xk3y was/is expensive at around 100$. If this one is more expensive, I don't know if that would be worth it now at this stage of this console generation's life. I don't plan on buying many more PS3 games in this generation that I can justify 100$+ to be able to back them up. If the XBOX360 XK3Y had been scheduled to come out on December this year, I probably wouldn't have bought that too, for the same reason.

    103. gambaownsu
      10-19-2012
      10:44 AM
      103

      Xkey and WODE has been released before. Someone has to be stupid to think that the PS3 cannot have his own 'Xkey'. Modeurasia wouldn't put their reputation at risk for some fake. C'mon folks. Hell, even that tard Garyshi-topee didn't put his reputation at risk for TB - he did his homework.

      Now, for me - the hardware solution is one of the best stuff that could happen to us. No more co cksucker devs pulling some mathieulh stuff on us - just a team with a product with features. Which - obviously will create competition thus making us - the customer - win.

    104. GraVoX959
      10-19-2012
      10:46 AM
      104

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      It must be all that sheep shagging keeping you Kangaroos brainy....
      Close... its those guys across the Tasman (NZ) that shag sheep.
      We're the ones that chuck shrimps on the barby.. which while Im here I may as well say WTF we call them prawns!!


      The ones that "bag out crunch", are not the ones with the stupid comments, i have stated that this is indeed genuine, so don't label everyone the same..
      Hey I said half!

      Well you are here
      Yeah I got sucked in when a mate told me that the people who were telling the truth were basically getting laughed at.
      I usually try and avoid these IQ depleting articles

      [MENTION=195922]Ubefuct[/MENTION], what else has been said is unpatchable and turned out to be patchable?
      Plus its common sense, if something PERFECTLY simulates something else to the point of it being indistinguishable to the host console/Sony servers then how can it be patched?

    105. GregoryRasputin
      10-19-2012
      10:57 AM
      105

      Originally Posted by GraVoX959
      Close... its those guys across the Tasman (NZ) that shag sheep.
      Tomato/Tomatoe
      Potato/Potatoe
      Australian/New Zealander





      Originally Posted by GraVoX959
      I usually try and avoid these IQ depleting articles
      Not everyone is going to understand the working of this device, doesnt mean they are idiots, they will begin to understand, unless they are [MENTION=224279]BGMaxie[/MENTION], i don't think he will ever understand anything, after about five different people and 20 different posts, he still doesn't really understand the difference between this and True Blue.

    106. GraVoX959
      10-19-2012
      11:13 AM
      106

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      Tomato/Tomatoe
      Potato/Potatoe
      Australian/New Zealander

      O.....M.....G
      you went there... you so went there


      Not everyone is going to understand the working of this device, doesnt mean they are idiots, they will begin to understand, unless they are [MENTION=224279]BGMaxie[/MENTION], i don't think he will ever understand anything, after about five different people and 20 different posts, he still doesn't really understand the difference between this and True Blue.
      People need to read, ask questions before making stupid assertions then.
      I personally have no problems with "Will this get patched?" or "Is the hardware necessary?"
      When I see "OMGZOOORS Dis is like TB, this will get patched sooo fast" and actually arguing those points without any kind of knowledge then yeah I will be blunt and call them an idiot.

      I personally would never buy one of these because retail games dont interest me, nor does PSN or any of that.
      But this is a genuine hack, a genuine hardware hack, a genuine unpatchable hardware hack. So my kudos definitely goes out to the 3k3y team for being the first

    107. r07f1
      10-19-2012
      11:16 AM
      107

      [MENTION=179936]GraVoX959[/MENTION]

      in the geohotz days SOME people were saying...
      "yay we pwned metldr! haha sony fuuuu! ps3 is forever pwned"

      never say never... or forever for that matter...

    108. Wolfie708
      10-19-2012
      11:30 AM
      108

      How come I miss all the good arguments?

      I read the first couple of pages and the ones defending this seem like sheep to me, but hey ho, maybe I am just an uneducated idiot........ Of course that does rely on uneducated meaning that I question things and do not take everything on face (screen) value, but again hey ho, if people want to believe what they are told and shown without trying it for themselves then I have a nice pyramid scheme they may be interested in

      [MENTION=179936]GraVoX959[/MENTION]

      You talk more sense than a lot, but after all your past b o llocks about working on things and not being 'allowed' to reveal details and sources, sorry Mr Sausage Head, but you have Zero right to criticise anyone who states their opinion

    109. GraVoX959
      10-19-2012
      11:33 AM
      109

      [MENTION=162826]r07f1[/MENTION]
      Well metldr aside, the PS3 is still totally pwned, keys are still attainable, bootldr is still attainable.
      Soon enough there will be a new CFW.
      The only thing that is really patched is downgrading newer consoles and from what I hear, that wont be far off being done either.

    110. baargle
      10-19-2012
      11:41 AM
      110

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]

      You're wrong actually, because they don't need 4.x "keys"....

      They just need the Bluray drive key. That is a static key that can be extracted via hardware.

      They don't need the 4.x decryption keys. A point that is extremely important and that being the case invalidates your claims.

    111. GraVoX959
      10-19-2012
      11:42 AM
      111

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708
      [MENTION=179936]GraVoX959[/MENTION]

      You talk more sense than a lot, but after all your past b o llocks about working on things and not being 'allowed' to reveal details and sources, sorry Mr Sausage Head, but you have Zero right to criticise anyone who states their opinion
      WTF?
      So because I dont break peoples trust that means I cant call a spade a spade?
      Im actually a pretty honest and open guy, people talk to me privately and in a humane manner and I respond accordingly. Ask Greg, Im about as honest with him as I could be with anyone.

      And an opinion is one thing, an uneducated assertion is another!
      I actually thought you were ok before the sausage comment.. guess I'll respond accordingly..
      I have EVERY right to criticize whatever I want Mr Pork Sword Head

    112. Ubefuct
      10-19-2012
      11:44 AM
      112

      Originally Posted by GraVoX959
      .......
      what else has been said is unpatchable and turned out to be patchable?
      Was not the original hack "unpatchable"
      http://www.mydigitallife.info/fail0v...ames-and-apps/

      Originally Posted by GraVoX959
      .......
      Plus its common sense, if something PERFECTLY simulates something else to the point of it being indistinguishable to the host console/Sony servers then how can it be patched?
      Thats just it, it simulates an 'answer' to a 'question'. What if they change the question in ofw along with a bd update?
      I'm not saying they are GOING to patch it, just stating it's not beyond the possiblity. Even if they do I'm sure they could just change with it as it allows updating. A feature not needed if truly unpatchable

    113. GraVoX959
      10-19-2012
      11:53 AM
      113

      Originally Posted by Ubefuct
      Was not the original hack "unpatchable"
      http://www.mydigitallife.info/fail0v...ames-and-apps/
      Well you got me there but other 'higher up the food chain' hacks are still present and unfixed so for me, its cancelled out

      Thats just it, it simulates an 'answer' to a 'question'. What if they change the question in ofw along with a bd update?
      I'm not saying they are GOING to patch it, just stating it's not beyond the possiblity. Even if they do I'm sure they could just change with it as it allows updating. A feature not needed if truly unpatchable
      Time will tell and personally if I bought one I would wait a week or so til I updated FWs in case the team came out and said something.
      I'm positive.. HIV positive this wont be the case though

    114. master737373
      10-19-2012
      12:00 PM
      114

      Originally Posted by Ubefuct
      Was not the original hack "unpatchable"
      http://www.mydigitallife.info/fail0v...ames-and-apps/
      I think they were just too quick to say what was the impossible without knowing what Sony's able to do.

    115. mrBear
      10-19-2012
      12:01 PM
      115

      And this thread is still alive

      This is my view on things.
      The great big DRM confusion
      Dont confuse this with DRM dongles, where you are held hostage for eboot releases dripping through slower than a three legged blind dog with a broken back. DRM dongles dont allow you to go and buy a new game, dump it, and then just play it. Here you can.

      Keys
      Has been mentioned by Gravox and many others - its not the keys required by the firmware. This device uses the BD identifier keys, which are hardcoded in the hardware - and really cannot change. These is per console, and as such currently you need 3.55 to run a few diagnostics etc to pick it up, then the device are able to synch and bobs you uncle. However, I know they are working on a solution for later PS3s which cannot be downgraded, or ones that your infant chew the remote and accidently upgraded to the latest firmware (or whatever excuse they use).

      Future proof
      This device will appear as your own BD drive, and are connected with the ribbon cable. As far as the PS3 is concerned, its talking to the original BD. This makes it so much harder to fix with firmware, since the firmware doesnt update or write anything to the BD keys wise (since its hardwired). To my knowledge the hardware layout in the PS3 have no way of doing that. Please PS3 gods correct me if im wrong.

      CFW
      Who knows, maybe someone is kind enough to feed through the various keys required, in which case they could create a new CFW on par with the latest OFW. But mind you, its less hassle to be on DEX currently, since its there and real. But until a new CFW comes out which will allow people with later consoles to update to a CFW, this will be the only option.

      In a nutshell, this device is not for everyone. Since the PS3 is at the end of its lifecycle, some might prefer to stay on Dex losing PSN - others might go this route to be on OFW.

    116. Wolfie708
      10-19-2012
      12:05 PM
      116

      Originally Posted by GraVoX959
      WTF?
      So because I dont break peoples trust that means I cant call a spade a spade?
      Im actually a pretty honest and open guy, people talk to me privately and in a humane manner and I respond accordingly. Ask Greg, Im about as honest with him as I could be with anyone.

      And an opinion is one thing, an uneducated assertion is another!
      I actually thought you were ok before the sausage comment.. guess I'll respond accordingly..
      I have EVERY right to criticize whatever I want Mr Pork Sword Head
      Ok, I guess I will have to retract the Sausage Head bit, BUT..... It was NOT meant in a derogatory way at all, it was meant Purely in humour...... I forget at times how different cultures and different people judge humour (especially online), but thank you for the compliment btw, it just means I have 2 pork swords to make the ladies squirm.

      I will stand by my belief that anyone who openly hides behind the 'I cannot say' excuse though has little to no right to criticise anothers opinion (whether founded or not). If you do not wish to break anothers trust, or faith, in something they tell you then you should not 'dangle the carrot' by hinting that you know something in the first place as if and when your source is ready to make it public they will do.

      Again, that is a cultural and personal way of looking at things, and if we were all the same it would be a Very sad place, but if as you say, you have EVERY right to criticise whatever you wish to, then so does everyone else...... Ergo the old adage, 'People in glass houses should not throw stones' (Please note that I am more than happy to be criticised as I know that at least half of what I say is pants lol)

      To try and put it slightly better for you though.............. Why are you getting so irate at peoples opinions if you know the truth? It will come out soon enough so why insult people? It serves no purpose at all

    117. Ubefuct
      10-19-2012
      12:07 PM
      117

      Originally Posted by master737373
      I think they were just too quick to say what was the impossible without knowing what Sony's able to do.
      My point exactly about this device

    118. master737373
      10-19-2012
      12:10 PM
      118

      Lets put it this way, at least with hints, people can better figure things out.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by Ubefuct
      My point exactly about this device
      But these people know what they're doing.

    119. GraVoX959
      10-19-2012
      12:18 PM
      119

      Originally Posted by Wolfie708
      Ok, I guess I will have to retract the Sausage Head bit, BUT..... It was NOT meant in a derogatory way at all, it was meant Purely in humour...... I forget at times how different cultures and different people judge humour (especially online), but thank you for the compliment btw, it just means I have 2 pork swords to make the ladies squirm.
      I thought as much which is why I tried to be funny also...

      I will stand by my belief that anyone who openly hides behind the 'I cannot say' excuse though has little to no right to criticise anothers opinion (whether founded or not). If you do not wish to break anothers trust, or faith, in something they tell you then you should not 'dangle the carrot' by hinting that you know something in the first place as if and when your source is ready to make it public they will do.
      Theres a fine line, Ive associated with people far smarter than myself for years. Ive learned whats acceptable to hint at and what is not. I dont do it to dangle a carrot and unless Im an actual beta tester of something I dont get access to it any quicker. I just realize that hackers/devs are real people and I treat them with respect and and talk to them the same way I would if we were at the pub having a beer.
      Again, that is a cultural and personal way of looking at things, and if we were all the same it would be a Very sad place, but if as you say, you have EVERY right to criticise whatever you wish to, then so does everyone else...... Ergo the old adage, 'People in glass houses should not throw stones' (Please note that I am more than happy to be criticised as I know that at least half of what I say is pants lol)

      To try and put it slightly better for you though.............. Why are you getting so irate at peoples opinions if you know the truth? It will come out soon enough so why insult people? It serves no purpose at all
      Well Im not going to lie.. I think... no I KNOW Im better than most people.
      I say please & thank you, I help old ladies cross the road, I brush my teeth twice a day & Im a demon in the sack.
      Couple that with 16+ yrs talking to people online

    120. master737373
      10-19-2012
      12:23 PM
      120

      Originally Posted by GraVoX959
      Couple that with 16+ yrs talking to people online
      This is what he does with this life

    121. Sidewinder_2011
      10-19-2012
      12:27 PM
      121

      ok it can emulate the ps3 blu ray drive and lets say sony cant patch it . but who say that sony wont be able to detect its on the ps3 . if they can then im sure u would be saying good bye to psn cos your ps3 will be banned

      the drive might not be patchable but psn could be . in the end we cant really say what it does and dont do till it comes out .

    122. master737373
      10-19-2012
      12:28 PM
      122

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      ok it can emulate the ps3 blu ray drive and lets say sony cant patch it . but who say that sony wont be able to detect its on the ps3 . if they can then im sure u would be saying good bye to psn cos your ps3 will be banned

      the drive might not be patchable but psn could be . in the end we cant really say what it does and dont do till it comes out .
      They can detect it if you don't use a retail game id.

    123. denero1
      10-19-2012
      12:30 PM
      123

      I think the article has done it's job it got people talking and debating maybe even a few user's came out of this with a little more knowledge then they had before -.-

    124. Sidewinder_2011
      10-19-2012
      12:36 PM
      124

      Originally Posted by master737373
      They can detect it if you don't use a retail game id.
      if thats the case and the only way that sony can stop ppl with backups online will be a mass banning consoles maybe accounts too , then what can this do that dex cant .nothink

    125. GraVoX959
      10-19-2012
      12:38 PM
      125

      Originally Posted by denero1
      I think the article has done it's job it got people talking and debating maybe even a few user's came out of this with a little more knowledge then they had before -.-
      HOPEFULLY...
      despite me being a blunt to the point assh0le, I try to educate.

      Originally Posted by master737373
      This is what he does with this life

      sadly yes... you people are all I have....... now Im crying after that realization and am going to sleep
      Youre a towel!!!!

    126. master737373
      10-19-2012
      12:39 PM
      126

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      if thats the case and the only way that sony can stop ppl with backups online will be a mass banning consoles maybe accounts too , then what can this do that dex cant .nothink
      BINGO!!!!!!!!

    127. chuchutranny
      10-19-2012
      12:41 PM
      127

      Originally Posted by GraVoX959

      sadly yes... you people are all I have....... now Im crying after that realization and am going to sleep
      Youre a towel!!!!
      I guess the wife and kids don't count for much.

    128. INFIN1TY
      10-19-2012
      12:50 PM
      128

      I tryed to put a dominos box on my ps3 but RE6 still wont play

    129. Amic3r
      10-19-2012
      12:52 PM
      129

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION], i believe they were relating to keys used in BD-Drive secure connection, and not signing keys. You know, there are plenty of keys, it's not like whole system is protected by one key you know...

    130. JonahUK
      10-19-2012
      12:52 PM
      130

      Originally Posted by INFIN1TY
      I tryed to put a dominos box on my ps3 but RE6 still wont play
      Try a Pizza Hut box, it has more compatibility.

    131. Rufei
      10-19-2012
      01:18 PM
      131

      Can you remove the BD drive from a 3.6+ ps3 and plug it in a 3.55 ps3 and extract the BD firmware? And would that be possible for all ps3s or just certain models?

    132. master737373
      10-19-2012
      01:45 PM
      132

      Originally Posted by Rufei
      Can you remove the BD drive from a 3.6+ ps3 and plug it in a 3.55 ps3 and extract the BD firmware? And would that be possible for all ps3s or just certain models?
      You can do that for most ps3s.

    133. cfwprpht
      10-19-2012
      02:11 PM
      133

      Any of you guys every thought on the controller which manage the communication between the drive's chip and the console it self ?

      Like for ps2 the dvd-controller it is on ps3 the bd-controller. A possability to extract the drive's key would be to sniff the bd-controller.

      And at least to be correct the PS3 BD-Drive don't have a uniqu drive key. Otherwise you can't simply swap a drive with same revision from one ps3 to another one.

      Just remeber on the 360. IF the drive would have a uniqu key you can't swap the drive even if the console would be the same revision, without also changing the drive key in the console it self.

      So one thing is 100% sure. There is no UNIQU bd drive key on ps3. At least not on that way like it works on the x360.

    134. KanjiMan
      10-19-2012
      02:39 PM
      134

      @ cfwprpht

      Just remeber on the 360. IF the drive would have a uniqu key you can't swap the drive even if the console would be the same revision, without also changing the drive key in the console it self.

      So one thing is 100% sure. There is no UNIQU bd drive key on ps3. At least not on that way like it works on the x360.
      I actually did a drive swap on a 360... just has to be the same drive make, and you just swap the circuit board that comes with the drive... worked great.

    135. master737373
      10-19-2012
      03:00 PM
      135

      Originally Posted by cfwprpht
      Any of you guys every thought on the controller which manage the communication between the drive's chip and the console it self ?

      Like for ps2 the dvd-controller it is on ps3 the bd-controller. A possability to extract the drive's key would be to sniff the bd-controller.

      And at least to be correct the PS3 BD-Drive don't have a uniqu drive key. Otherwise you can't simply swap a drive with same revision from one ps3 to another one.

      Just remeber on the 360. IF the drive would have a uniqu key you can't swap the drive even if the console would be the same revision, without also changing the drive key in the console it self.

      So one thing is 100% sure. There is no UNIQU bd drive key on ps3. At least not on that way like it works on the x360.
      Lol cause the console of subject is a 360 /sarcasm

    136. cfwprpht
      10-19-2012
      03:18 PM
      136

      Originally Posted by KanjiMan
      @ cfwprpht


      I actually did a drive swap on a 360... just has to be the same drive make, and you just swap the circuit board that comes with the drive... worked great.
      Dude on the 360 the drive hase a uniqu drive key which is stored on the circuit board. So if you don't swap the curcuit board you don't need to remarrie the drive. But if you take out the whole drive You ned to remarrie the drive.

      And that's the diff between x360 and PS3.

      So you want to tell us that you only swap the curcuit board from a 360 drive to another one and it work ??

      Do you know what you talking about ?
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by master737373
      Lol cause the console of subject is a 360 /sarcasm
      No but the user's here talk about thing's and seem to forget that this is not a 360.

    137. MajorDisaster
      10-19-2012
      04:44 PM
      137

      Originally Posted by bigo93
      And you know because you know the guys personally?

      Just becase it has the word "key" at the end of it and claim to be the makes of the x360key, doesnt mean they are.

      We wont know how this works until it is released or confirmed by several others.

      If this works, most likely $ony will find a way to block it, hence why you can not trust the "will work with all new firmware" claim, the dongles did that, and some still do with their new dongles.
      It's from them the picture was originally posted on x360key Facebook page.

      https://www.facebook.com/x360key

    138. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      05:49 PM
      138

      Wrong or right, conspiracy or without it on the *article* always this kind of thread serves a purpose. Debate/Bash and show the true faces of some ****tards aroung here.

      Btw the infractions on 2 users, one trolling another one insulting. [MENTION=7773]GregoryRasputin[/MENTION]
      If you want to keep a discusion civilized with a pizza box be my guest but fill your quote of good manners if you want to do so.

    139. vanpeli
      10-19-2012
      05:51 PM
      139

      Just convert to DEX and everything is fine

    140. hellsing9
      10-19-2012
      05:58 PM
      140

      Originally Posted by Amic3r
      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION], i believe they were relating to keys used in BD-Drive secure connection, and not signing keys. You know, there are plenty of keys, it's not like whole system is protected by one key you know...
      I know.

    141. master737373
      10-19-2012
      06:27 PM
      141

      Originally Posted by vanpeli
      Just convert to DEX and everything is fine
      Yeah, keep doing that and see how far that goes.

    142. Cheesethief
      10-19-2012
      06:42 PM
      142

      Originally Posted by master737373
      Yeah, keep doing that and see how far that goes.
      Much farther than an ODDE at this point in time. I would not mind having both though....

    143. Simonbuck
      10-19-2012
      06:50 PM
      143

      15 pages of testosterone..... well minus the 2 pages of [MENTION=179936]GraVoX959[/MENTION] premenstrual posts...
      ohh and the master keep backing him up.

      When TF are you "Iluminate" gonna release the cfw....??????

      your "Grand Master" over at crunch must have shared the plan ???

      you gonna wait till dongles and USb, then go bang..... here you go minions, suck my I dick.......................

    144. vanpeli
      10-19-2012
      06:54 PM
      144

      Originally Posted by master737373
      Yeah, keep doing that and see how far that goes.
      Until now it goes very well
      Playing my new and old Games on DEX 4.21 without any problems.
      I have PSN access with 3.55 CFW on DEX..
      So far now problems here..
      It could be not better..
      How far are you with your console

    145. master737373
      10-19-2012
      09:46 PM
      145

      Eeehhhh I'm not "backing" gravox, we just have the same points. We also know what we're talking about. ODDE will last a lot longer than Dex.

    146. sandungas
      10-19-2012
      11:34 PM
      146

      Quoted for the record, good first message

      Originally Posted by nyarrgh
      Also, if it works like the Xk3y for xbox, Firmware for the drive and the PS3 will not be touched. The firmware for the drive will be "emulated" using a micro linux board that will be a middleman for the drive and the motherboard. It can also be turned off so the drive will act as if directly connected. only the Drive KEY is needed so the hardware can present itself to the motherboard as the correct drive.
      This is the "only" way for this to works "transparently"... what initially means that is not detectable, but this doesnt means is not blockable

      I will keep my posture of doubt about if is blockable or not untill the next sony firmware after the release of 3k3y
      The only argument that can make me change my mind if is somebody comes here and explains WITH LOT OF DETAIL how the device works, how the ps3 BD security works, and an explain of why yes/or/not is blockable... and i bet this is not going to happen, because the only ones that can explain all this by now are the 3k3y manufacturers :D

      Originally Posted by nyarrgh
      It is not so unbelievable that this can also work on the PS3. Remember, This is working on the XBOX360 even though nobody has the "Keys" to the current xbox firmware. Just the "Key" to the Drive. The "key" to the drive also does not mean exactly the same as the encryption key, it's more the "Identification Key", that the motherboard expects from the drive.
      I think the "drive key" in PS3 and XBOX360 are different concepts
      In XBOX360 is working as a "hardware identifyer"... this means you have the key in the drive... and the same key in the motherboard flash... both must match... also, you have 2 options when replacing the drive (you can put the key of the new drive in your motherboard flash... or you can put the key in your motherboard in the new drive)
      You can fill the key in your motherboard flash with zeroes... and then write one of the firmware releases from C4eva in the drive without changing the key (because the C4eva firmwares uses a key filled with zeroes)

      In PS3 the key is used to encrypt the communications between motherboard<-->drive, is not a "hardware identifyer" like in XBOX360
      The security related with the "hardware identifyer" was hacked lot of time ago, with the "remarry tools"... but the communications between motherboard<-->drive has been secured in the same way it was back in 2005 when the ps3 was released

      Maybe im wrong, but this is an important difference, because if is like i think sony can "update" the security of this communication channel by adding more protections (and i mean "adding"... not "replacing"... something similar than what happened with metldr)
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      The blue board at the right (that is placed between motherboard<--->BD and it seems is "intercepting" the data signals) is what makes the "switch" of the data lines to disable the 3k3y, and to "inject" the data sent by the other board (under the paper, running linux, connected to the display/buttons, and with an HDD attached as a peripheral)
      Iirc they said one of the boards is a FPGA... probably is the blue board at the right
      The board under the paper... maybe is "recycled" from the XBOX360 mods (when something works, better dont change it)

    147. Kalberto
      10-20-2012
      12:47 AM
      147

      Originally Posted by houtei
      this is retarded
      https://www.facebook.com/x360key
      http://www.x360keyforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7853

      I guess its been that bad on the ps3 scene you just assume everything's fake even when its clear its not... That article is just so misinformed i am not even going there...
      news x360key's facebook was SHARED LINK, not posted it
      also inside x360keyforum, it was SHARED LINK too

      suspiciously at the bottom ps3 usb port not shown, so we can not see the connection from the cable to the pizza box.

    148. GraVoX959
      10-20-2012
      12:50 AM
      148

      [MENTION=202964]sandungas[/MENTION].. What is it exactly you want to know? I actually happen to know a lot about BD's and a fair amount about the drive.
      You could also have a look at the leaked code for the ODDE of DH's.. its not his code but its part (minus the important part) of a working ODDE.

      [MENTION=208137]Simonbuck[/MENTION]
      FFS it "Illuminati"
      "Illuminate" is what your face does when I blow on it
      Hardly pre menstrual posts either, in a ridiculous thread full of braindead morons who know nothing but tout their ideas like its truth.. I suppose people posting actual truth would look a little foreign and out of place.
      This thread has not served a purpose! The same info could have been garnered with a well thought set of questions, not some retarded pile of drivel disguised as truth.
      All that has happened here is more people look stupid and hellsing... well he looks like hellsing as per usual (nuff said)

    149. hellsing9
      10-20-2012
      01:07 AM
      149

      Originally Posted by GraVoX959
      [MENTION=202964]sandungas[/MENTION].. What is it exactly you want to know? I actually happen to know a lot about BD's and a fair amount about the drive.
      You could also have a look at the leaked code for the ODDE of DH's.. its not his code but its part (minus the important part) of a working ODDE.

      [MENTION=208137]Simonbuck[/MENTION]
      FFS it "Illuminati"
      "Illuminate" is what your face does when I blow on it
      Hardly pre menstrual posts either, in a ridiculous thread full of braindead morons who know nothing but tout their ideas like its truth.. I suppose people posting actual truth would look a little foreign and out of place.
      This thread has not served a purpose! The same info could have been garnered with a well thought set of questions, not some retarded pile of drivel disguised as truth.
      All that has happened here is more people look stupid and hellsing... well he looks like hellsing as per usual (nuff said)


      DH is no more.
      You said that what happened here is make people look stupid and you posting in here...so?

    150. sandungas
      10-20-2012
      01:18 AM
      150

      Originally Posted by GraVoX959
      [MENTION=202964]sandungas[/MENTION].. What is it exactly you want to know?
      Uhhhhh, is a long list, but the things that interest most to me are hardware:

      -If they are going to emulate the BD firmware controller (inside a chip)... its needed to have direct connections with this controller output pins (maybe this is the reason why the BD is hidden in his photos)... how many wires are needed, and what are this signals ?
      *Note the controller input pins probably can be taked from the ribbon cable... but not the outputs

      -How many data lines are "switched" at the blue FPGA board at the right ?... this is supposed to be a "secure channel"

      -How works this key they named "drive key" (and optionally, there are another keys involved, e.g: for the BD controller chip) ?

    151. ATHEiST
      10-20-2012
      01:18 AM
      151

      Originally Posted by Kalberto
      suspiciously at the bottom ps3 usb port not shown, so we can not see the connection from the cable to the pizza box.
      Why would they show the PS3 USB port??? The PS3 USB port is NOT used to emulate a BD drive, please use some common sense.

      People, how hard is it to grasp this concept? Its a BD drive emulator, You plug your USB drive into the 3key box which in turn emulates a BD Drive, The 3key plugs into the PS3 in same way as the real BD drive does and instead of reading optical media it reads ISO's, Its a fricking VIRTUAL DRIVE so stop all this stupid tinfoil hat crap about not seeing the PS3 USB port as its 100% irrelevant to this device.


      ISO>USB Drive>3Key>PS3 Sata


      ....get it?

    152. master737373
      10-20-2012
      01:18 AM
      152

      Originally Posted by Simonbuck
      15 pages of testosterone..... well minus the 2 pages of [MENTION=179936]GraVoX959[/MENTION] premenstrual posts...
      ohh and the master keep backing him up.

      When TF are you "Iluminate" gonna release the cfw....??????

      your "Grand Master" over at crunch must have shared the plan ???

      you gonna wait till dongles and USb, then go bang..... here you go minions, suck my I dick.......................
      Dude...what are you talking about?

    153. modrobert
      10-20-2012
      02:38 AM
      153

      I do agree that the current reseller list looks crappy and suspicious, lets hope they update that soon.

    154. Cheesethief
      10-20-2012
      03:39 AM
      154

      Originally Posted by ATHEiST

      ISO>USB Drive>3Key>PS3 Sata


      ....get it?
      No. Why would it connect through the PS3's SATA port? The product is similar to the xkey, but the console itself is not similar to the 360.


      Sent from my toaster using Tapatalk 2

    155. JonahUK
      10-20-2012
      03:56 AM
      155

      [MENTION=200937]Cheesethief[/MENTION]

      The BD is a sata device so this will have to sit between that connection.
      It doesn't mean it connects to the port but it does have to intercept the drive and the mainboard.

      Cable from the drive to the x3key, cable from x3key to the mainboard. x3key intercepts anything to/from the drive and reroutes to the usb. Simple.

      You may not even need the BD connected after installation if this truly emulates the BD drive.

    156. Simonbuck
      10-20-2012
      04:03 AM
      156

      Originally Posted by master737373
      Dude...what are you talking about?
      Just one example

      Quote from [MENTION=114607]deank[/MENTION]

      All CEX versions of the listed applications are updated to be compatible with 4.21CEX CFW (so, not only multiMAN would work on this new free dongle-less firmware)


      SOURCE

    157. JonahUK
      10-20-2012
      04:07 AM
      157

      [MENTION=208137]Simonbuck[/MENTION]

      Nice to see support for something that "doesn't exist"

    158. Simonbuck
      10-20-2012
      04:11 AM
      158

      Originally Posted by JonahUK
      [MENTION=208137]Simonbuck[/MENTION]

      Nice to see support for something that "doesn't exist"
      So the "Illuminate" would like us to think

    159. budzio
      10-20-2012
      06:03 AM
      159

      Originally Posted by Deank
      p.s. Stop sending me PMs with questions about this firmware. I'm not involved in its development and the only thing I know is that it will be ready soon and will be free.

      wonder know what "soon" means for him
      week two weeks month six months year

      Once again we have to keep calm and be patient...It's best option as it was in past

    160. Sidewinder_2011
      10-20-2012
      06:17 AM
      160

      Originally Posted by budzio
      wonder know what "soon" means for him
      week two weeks month six months year

      Once again we have to keep calm and be patient...It's best option as it was in past
      what has this got to do with 3key? think u posted it in the wrong thread

    161. budzio
      10-20-2012
      06:30 AM
      161

      [MENTION=51782]carldenning[/MENTION] it was in reference to Simonbuck and JonahUK posts...
      but only my was issue for you

    162. Cheesethief
      10-20-2012
      06:34 AM
      162

      Originally Posted by JonahUK
      [MENTION=200937]Cheesethief[/MENTION]

      The BD is a sata device so this will have to sit between that connection.
      It doesn't mean it connects to the port but it does have to intercept the drive and the mainboard.

      Cable from the drive to the x3key, cable from x3key to the mainboard. x3key intercepts anything to/from the drive and reroutes to the usb. Simple.

      You may not even need the BD connected after installation if this truly emulates the BD drive.
      PS3 Blu-Ray drive is not standard SATA. The connection is through a ribbon cable.

    163. JonahUK
      10-20-2012
      06:59 AM
      163

      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      PS3 Blu-Ray drive is not standard SATA. The connection is through a ribbon cable.
      I never said it was?

      I said it was a SATA device which it is. It doesn't matter how it is connected.

    164. ViperMM
      10-20-2012
      07:42 AM
      164

      Originally Posted by JonahUK
      I never said it was?

      I said it was a SATA device which it is. It doesn't matter how it is connected.
      Do you even know what SATA is?

      Also this may be kinda trolling, two things about this release date are funny to me. The mayan calendar ended years ago since the retards who think the world is going to end didn't account for leap year, and also the projected date isn't 12-12-12 it's 12-21-12. Some people are just lames.

      Edit: Read these and compare to educate yourself.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_...s.2C_and_ports
      http://ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Bluray_Dr...are_Components
      Sata is 7 pins and the BD drive is 60 pins. This may mean that 7 of those pins can be SATA, however that same logic would dictate all SATA drives are PATA and not SATA (the newer standard)

    165. Kalberto
      10-20-2012
      07:43 AM
      165

      Originally Posted by ATHEiST
      Why would they show the PS3 USB port??? The PS3 USB port is NOT used to emulate a BD drive, please use some common sense.

      People, how hard is it to grasp this concept? Its a BD drive emulator, You plug your USB drive into the 3key box which in turn emulates a BD Drive, The 3key plugs into the PS3 in same way as the real BD drive does and instead of reading optical media it reads ISO's, Its a fricking VIRTUAL DRIVE so stop all this stupid tinfoil hat crap about not seeing the PS3 USB port as its 100% irrelevant to this device.


      ISO>USB Drive>3Key>PS3 Sata


      ....get it?

      3key box ? which's one ?
      the white pizza box or the small box black thats connected to usb 3.0 ?

    166. JonahUK
      10-20-2012
      08:25 AM
      166

      Originally Posted by ViperMM
      Do you even know what SATA is?
      Is it "Suck A Twonks Arse"?

    167. ViperMM
      10-20-2012
      08:35 AM
      167

      Originally Posted by JonahUK
      Is it "Suck A Twonks Arse"?
      Yes, it is, however you are the on who has to do the sucking.

    168. Sharon4941
      10-20-2012
      08:37 AM
      168

      I think the announce of """they are working on hardware methods for extracting keys from PS3′s already on 4.x firmware""" only shows an interest in finding a method

    169. ViperMM
      10-20-2012
      08:41 AM
      169

      Originally Posted by Sharon4941
      I think the announce of """they are working on hardware methods for extracting keys from PS3′s already on 4.x firmware""" only shows an interest in finding a method
      Hardware method would be nice... even though the hardware method would be one time use thing just like it is on the 360 drive key. (there is a drive flasher for the 360 that once setup can flash multiple of the same model drives without usage of a PC)

    170. baileyscream
      10-20-2012
      08:46 AM
      170

      i wonder if they have a different connector for the 2500 & 3000 ps3's as they dont have bdvd boards the components are on the mainboard / motherboard and the ribbon / ZIF connections are smaller and there are 2 of them.

      also [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] great post
      i have looked at the modchipsaustralia.com site but i can only find the xbox version not the ps3 version.

      i also came across a thread not this one but this one does link to it and quotes the find http://forums.ps3scene.com/index.php?showtopic=661892.

      we have already found where the encrypted keys are stored for SELF's, PKG's, and BD Pairing
      (this is a really old post and it was pimarly about flowrebuilders use / creation) but i came acrossit in my search for all things related to bluray drive re-pairing as i'm looking for a way to get new bdvd's to work on 3.55f/w

      anyway are the creators behind this ek3y talking about dumping the above mentioned keys to put on there hard-emulaitor?

      or are they going to make a tool to just dump the married key so we cannot get the other keys for other use?

      and is the latest reliesed 4.++ key from the drive? the key that appears to have had the download section of the ps3devwiki temp closed?

    171. JonahUK
      10-20-2012
      08:57 AM
      171

      Originally Posted by ViperMM
      Yes, it is, however you are the on who has to do the sucking.
      I've seen the pictures so I'll think I'll pass.

      I will agree that the ribbon connection does have more in common with pata rather than sata.

      My point was that it doesn't matter how it's connected to be classed as a sata device.

    172. jorru6
      10-20-2012
      08:57 AM
      172

      if its true ill gladly buy it as i have a big family 5PS3 2ofther YLOD on mei have an e3 flasher and i know how 2 use it will just flash back and forth and try it out.

      http://www.3k3y.com/

    173. Sidewinder_2011
      10-20-2012
      10:04 AM
      173

      Originally Posted by budzio
      [MENTION=51782]carldenning[/MENTION] it was in reference to Simonbuck and JonahUK posts...
      but only my was issue for you
      i didnt say it was a issue i just ask why u posted about deank /4.21 cfw in a thread about 3keys . didnt mean anythink bad about it .

    174. Bi0Hazard
      10-20-2012
      12:18 PM
      174

      it don't matter real or fake the worlds gonna end before you get it in the mail.

    175. hellsing9
      10-20-2012
      01:58 PM
      175

      Originally Posted by baileyscream
      i wonder if they have a different connector for the 2500 & 3000 ps3's as they dont have bdvd boards the components are on the mainboard / motherboard and the ribbon / ZIF connections are smaller and there are 2 of them.

      also [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] great post
      i have looked at the modchipsaustralia.com site but i can only find the xbox version not the ps3 version.

      i also came across a thread not this one but this one does link to it and quotes the find http://forums.ps3scene.com/index.php?showtopic=661892.
      (this is a really old post and it was pimarly about flowrebuilders use / creation) but i came acrossit in my search for all things related to bluray drive re-pairing as i'm looking for a way to get new bdvd's to work on 3.55f/w

      anyway are the creators behind this ek3y talking about dumping the above mentioned keys to put on there hard-emulaitor?

      or are they going to make a tool to just dump the married key so we cannot get the other keys for other use?

      and is the latest reliesed 4.++ key from the drive? the key that appears to have had the download section of the ps3devwiki temp closed?
      DMCA problems on ps3devwiki download section. Don't know when will be up again or in fact if it's up.
      The *dogs* are auditing to see if there any copyright infrigment.

      Defyboy left a note on there.

    176. baileyscream
      10-20-2012
      04:07 PM
      176

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      DMCA problems on ps3devwiki download section. Don't know when will be up again or in fact if it's up.
      The *dogs* are auditing to see if there any copyright infrigment.

      Defyboy left a note on there.
      sorry hellsing i didnt mean for that part to look like i aimed it at you

      this was aimed at you:-
      great post
      i have looked at the modchipsaustralia.com site but i can only find the xbox version not the ps3 version.
      ...................................................................................................
      your post is great & it is news (ignore the haters)

      and the o/p mentions the above site as a reseller but i couldnt find it.
      all i can find is the xbox version
      could you check this or do you have a direct page link ?
      [spoiler= off topic]
      btw i see you have put "Outcast" under your name.

      lol your far from that!

      you generate more thread replies / view's than any other thread starter / news reporter atm

      if you was an "outcast" everyone would avoid your threads

      i think you should change "outcast" to "King snooper" as its your reports on what you find while "snooping" about the net that keeps everyone interested & entertained
      [/spoiler]

    177. idbirch
      10-20-2012
      05:19 PM
      177

      Jesus Christ, only on the PS3 scene could we observe such a collection of paranoid cretins like this. The original "news (it's not news just my opinion if you don't like it dont read it but I'll post it on the main news page just to get a reaction)" crap is blatant flame baiting but what the hell - this thing is legit, it's been confirmed by enough reliable folks. If you don't believe it then accept your place at the back of the queue and shut up.

    178. Cheesethief
      10-20-2012
      05:33 PM
      178

      Originally Posted by JonahUK
      I've seen the pictures so I'll think I'll pass.

      I will agree that the ribbon connection does have more in common with pata rather than sata.

      My point was that it doesn't matter how it's connected to be classed as a sata device.
      SATA host-adapters and devices communicate via a high-speed serial cable over two pairs of conductors. The connectors/cable are an important part of being SATA certified/compliant.

      Also: [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] is not a mod anymore?

    179. baileyscream
      10-20-2012
      06:15 PM
      179

      Originally Posted by idbirch
      Jesus Christ, only on the PS3 scene could we observe such a collection of paranoid cretins like this. The original "news (it's not news just my opinion if you don't like it dont read it but I'll post it on the main news page just to get a reaction)" crap is blatant flame baiting but what the hell - this thing is legit, it's been confirmed by enough reliable folks. If you don't believe it then accept your place at the back of the queue and shut up.
      wait wait wait......
      there is news about a new product called "3k3y" then a thread by [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] that asks questions / gets ppl talking openly about there thoughts on the subject .....
      then a new member called idbirch pipes up in the thread ......
      hmmm is he from sony....
      omg this idbirch is trying to create drama by calling other members "a collection of paranoid cretins"........
      this idbirch IS from sony omg omg omg omg there on to us .... there trying to stop progress..... we need to go quiet ......... then jump him and feed him to the TB team ....... yea yea thats what we have to ......... are you reading my post....... i see you there reading my post...... arrrrggggg why are you reading my post......... where is my tin foil hat...... your still reading my post............

    180. OoZic
      10-20-2012
      07:38 PM
      180

      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      Also: [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] is not a mod anymore?
      He still is, look at the color of his name

    181. hellsing9
      10-20-2012
      08:44 PM
      181

      [MENTION=200937]Cheesethief[/MENTION] My status is still *active* but nope im not longer s-mod or mod.

      [MENTION=101793]OoZic[/MENTION] the same. Not s-mod, neither mod.

      Ontopic:

      It's a chance that they are using some kind of SATA ll or some kind of SSD?.

    182. OoZic
      10-20-2012
      09:10 PM
      182

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      [MENTION=200937]Cheesethief[/MENTION] My status is still *active* but nope im not longer s-mod or mod.

      [MENTION=101793]OoZic[/MENTION] the same. Not s-mod, neither mod.

      Ontopic:

      It's a chance that they are using some kind of SATA ll or some kind of SSD?.
      I think you are wrong in this, you still have s-mod privileges as long as your name is light-blue. Annelies is a former mod and his name is in black now...

    183. hellsing9
      10-20-2012
      09:11 PM
      183

      Originally Posted by OoZic
      I think you are wrong in this, you still have s-mod privileges as long as your name is light-blue. Annelies is a former mod and his name is in black now...
      Takes some time until pirate removes the privileges. Soon you will see my nick in black.

    184. OoZic
      10-20-2012
      09:14 PM
      184

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Takes some time until pirate removes the privileges. Soon you will see my nick in black.
      Sorry to hear this... sometimes your news was a bit difficult to understand but I liked how much energy you putted into this. It's a hard job

    185. Isleofdoom
      10-20-2012
      11:21 PM
      185

      For any of you who are curious of Cobra usb update 5.0 check this out

      http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?9es1jipxtngfqye

    186. dablakmark8
      10-21-2012
      03:37 AM
      186

      Sometimes skepticism is all we can afford.We as DP's know there are many paths that can only lead to one goal.....free for all,do want we want to do,open play,Its my ps,my rules,

    187. republicano
      10-21-2012
      06:20 AM
      187

      I know this is silly but will this help homebrew?,
      reading it states intergrated game ripper, not " backups"

      linux in a micro sd card is homebrew which sounds interesting and its friendly UI but no cfw required, so its running over usb with bd emulation, so you need 3.55 to get the keys,then someone can make a cfw for 4+ for those who don't want to pay?, sony will find a way to detect the chip on updates so its best offline,

    188. Cheesethief
      10-21-2012
      06:21 AM
      188

      [MENTION=112307]8MM[/MENTION] When news is slow, it is slow. At which point sites have to publish something to keep people interested. Creating controversy is better than having a wasteland of a site.

      Sent from my toaster using Tapatalk 2

    189. alwayshungry
      10-21-2012
      12:29 PM
      189

      $129 for a 3K3y is a little steep for me but if its a permanent, maybe. So only time will tell. Also they seem to be ready for a Christmas releace.

      Source: http://ps3 repack .com/board/showthread.php?67-3k3y-xkey-for-ps3!!/page3

    190. henry caine
      10-21-2012
      03:10 PM
      190

      I still don't understand why people think this is a dongle its almost as if some of us have never heard of a mod chip before is the jtag a dongle is the e3 flasher a dongle yes this can be done with software but it requires CFW which its called multiman but we need 3.55 CFW to do use it unless we get 4.xx CFW (not likely) the 3k3y method let us upgrade to the latest OFW with back ups

      and i gotta say this once more 3.55 is only required to get the bd key there is only one it is per console and it cannot be changed after u get the bd key u never have to go back to 3.55 again because the bd key is the same for all firmwares because (wait for it) it cannot be change it is like the ps3 per console root key it is hard coded into the drive

      if this is a dongle then i guess all modchips are dongle because one way or another any hacks that can be done by hardware can also be done by software but hacks like 3k3y that use software and hardware usually survive updates like ixtreme

      in the old days u had to buy a mod chip open the console and solder it onto the motherboard it put hair on ur chest now all i see are babies crying about free soft mods that gets patch just a couple week later

      if sony patches this hell if i care i just won't update till team 3k3y release their updated solution i'll still have a bunch of games that work using no fixes just download/rip, transfer, then play its that easy + sony can't revoke they keys so no patch will be permanent

      the only downside is no home brew but hey not a big prob for me not to many homebrew on my ps3 lots of game but not to many homebrew but now what will i do with that over sized 750 gb hdd guess i can always use the old 60 gb

    191. adam2893
      10-22-2012
      01:28 AM
      191

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      It's a chance that they are using some kind of SATA ll or some kind of SSD?.
      You still don't understand



      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Takes some time until pirate removes the privileges. Soon you will see my nick in black.
      Hahahahaha

    192. hellsing9
      10-22-2012
      01:49 AM
      192

      Originally Posted by adam2893
      You still don't understand





      Hahahahaha


      [spoiler]
      Would kindly go **** yourself.

      [/spoiler]

    193. Ubefuct
      10-22-2012
      08:36 AM
      193

      wow....[MENTION=147753]adam2893[/MENTION]