• Thanks to @Mackdanny ;)

    So tomorrow, October 23rd, Sony will release 4.30. The update will finally address an issue/request from Vita owners, namely, the ability to see BOTH sets of trophies from PS3 AND Vita. When the Vita released, you were always able to see both sets of trophies on the handheld, but it took Sony 8 months to make it so on the PS3. Vita trophies have always been accumulating to your PSN, but the PS3 just couldn’t display them. Better late then never i guess.

    HOWEVER……

    This DOES remove the folding @hom e app known as Life with Playstation. This is the only known (so far) removal that Sony has done. Maybe not so big a deal, however I can see people getting frustrated that Sony removes something else. Folding at home was an app that lets your PS3 lend CPU power to study Protein Folding for research. More on that HERE.

    More info to come as it is available.

    [SOURCE] : Shacknews

    Discuss in Forums (61)


  • 61 Comments

    1. fanboysarestupid
      10-22-2012
      04:15 PM
      1

      Wow. Can't wait to update my PS3 Slim.

    2. ExoDus24
      10-22-2012
      04:43 PM
      2

      My friend has been telling me to buy a Vita I don't see anything special about a handheld portal expect that is is portable and lowers a electricity bill.

    3. hellsing9
      10-23-2012
      12:29 AM
      3

      Chase the rabbit, alice! chase it!! this is madness.

    4. vikasnarula
      10-23-2012
      12:31 AM
      4

      New PSN gatepass keys, means today is the last day for f**k psn and Rogero new cfw users.

    5. ricker
      10-23-2012
      12:40 AM
      5

      I would be elated if it did stop hacked psn access. absolutely nothing good comes from people writing online hacks. ruins games. do what you will to your ps3, i have no problems hacking your ps3, just stay the hell off psn.

      **** psn and all other ways to get online here should be outlawed from this site.

    6. BobbyBlunt
      10-23-2012
      01:20 AM
      6

      Say what you will but I used folding a lot when I first got my ps3. I blame several of my friends' YLoDs on that as well.

    7. kilroy2
      10-23-2012
      01:24 AM
      7

      Broken link to more info.
      I remember when folding[MENTION=98700]hom[/MENTION]e first came out. Made me feel like I was making a difference. Was hoping to see some explanation like: Folding[MENTION=98700]hom[/MENTION]e research data analysis completed, no need for app to continue, GG cancer.... But history repeating itself as always would mean $ony has some problem with people using their PS3s for something other than what makes them $$$.

    8. ZroSignal
      10-23-2012
      01:25 AM
      8

      again another stuff taken away hehe, nah just kiddin, but man i really like it because after all you could HELP even if you have a ps3 for pirate games, **** i used to share some hours when i was wasted

    9. Kazrael21
      10-23-2012
      01:28 AM
      9

      Hey if your talented enough to hack and do some extraordinary modding then go for it, everyone else can hate it all they want but bottom line is --you still have people in the game shooting eachother, with the exception that one guy is flying around...everyone has the ability to do it, its just that only one guy is smart enough to actually enable the full potential of his gaming console.

      As far as pirating goes, I dont publicly condone theft of any sort. Although if I own a hacked system and I am offered a "backed up" game I will accept, because I was raised that by not accepting a gift of any kind was rude to the individual offering me the gift. Even if the individuaoffering it to me is my laptop, I love my laptop and would never hurt it's feelings.

    10. jorgebus
      10-23-2012
      01:28 AM
      10

      I found this the removal of folding[MENTION=98700]hom[/MENTION]e sopport a disrespect by Sony against the project as a whole.

      Once more, shame on you Sony...

    11. BobbyBlunt
      10-23-2012
      01:32 AM
      11

      I agree. That was even helping research that could better benefit mankind one day through collective computing. And it would crunch some numbers as well.

      Sony only cares about Sony. Another point for Microsoft :D At least they contribute lots to charities. This isn't even a charity and they stop it....just some number crunching for research for Stanford University I believe it was.

    12. hellsing9
      10-23-2012
      01:38 AM
      12

      I love how the *optional* was removed long ago from sony's side.

      What happens if i don't want to update? = I can't play my legit games online.
      What happens if i can play my legit games online? = I get mad.
      What happens when i get mad = I turn to Xbox360 if not i scream like a loco and play my guitar. (real one, not that **** with buttons).

      I have to add being on a heavy fight and swearing like a Nun in dante's inferno with the new **** of microsoft btw sucks big time.
      Outlook?!? come on!! with windows 8 they are making heavy changes to their infrastucture and ****ing even with legit users. (Happens all the time) but this time with win 8 is worst the OS looks like something for elder people.

      They bear the Karma of fail at failing with portables, also.
      And sony bears the Karma of having a nice portable with 0 game catologue...i don't know which one is worst.

      /Screaming off

    13. ZroSignal
      10-23-2012
      01:40 AM
      13

      i want to share my only 2 pictures before the end (just in case i switched to dex not long ago so sorry for my "new forge")
      http://imgur.com/9XVg4
      http://imgur.com/KXhYL
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      damn looks like ****, oh well sorry

    14. Los Cuentos
      10-23-2012
      01:42 AM
      14

      last day on PSN

    15. Deadman19
      10-23-2012
      01:45 AM
      15

      As far as pirating goes, I dont publicly condone theft of any sort. Although if I own a hacked system and I am offered a "backed up" game I will accept, because I was raised that by not accepting a gift of any kind was rude to the individual offering me the gift.
      lol... ) I was that close to believe you... )

    16. hellsing9
      10-23-2012
      01:45 AM
      16

      Originally Posted by Los Cuentos View Post
      last day on PSN
      Nothing last forever and with 4.30 passphrase change...so...we knew that this will eventually gonna happen.
      No need to be blue about it.

    17. wizardfingers
      10-23-2012
      01:51 AM
      17

      Well the PS3 isn't the only way to use folding[MENTION=98700]hom[/MENTION]e if you have PC which I'm sure a lot of us have you can still use folding[MENTION=98700]hom[/MENTION]e, but its sad to see something again from the PS3 removed.

    18. Los Cuentos
      10-23-2012
      02:15 AM
      18

      Originally Posted by hellsing9 View Post
      Nothing last forever and with 4.30 passphrase change...so...we knew that this will eventually gonna happen.
      No need to be blue about it.
      True but hopely it will be fixed asap

    19. djhazardous
      10-23-2012
      02:24 AM
      19

      is this all they're doing? it seems to oddly coincide with recent hacks if you ask me. maybe something is round the corner for 4.25 ofw users? someone bring a bypass soon please.

    20. Mackdanny
      10-23-2012
      05:02 AM
      20

      Well the thing is that from what it seemed the removal was a mutual decision. Still i ran Life with Playstation yesterday for kicks... after the elevator music quit playing, Slacker by Tech N9ne started automatically playing. Folding has a nice music player, better than the XMB player, which detected music based on mood. Still, for my PS3 to call me a slacker, no matter how correct at the time, was a little odd. O.0

    21. fanboysarestupid
      10-23-2012
      06:06 AM
      21

      The positive thing about this that everyone has forgotten is, this is a solution for those who semi-bricked their PS3's back then with 4.25 FW and now installing this one will probably fix it.

      OP @ Where'd you learn that English from?

    22. cloudx
      10-23-2012
      06:09 PM
      22

      hmmm no update , delayed probably ?

    23. fanboysarestupid
      10-23-2012
      06:16 PM
      23

      It was delayed to today, 24th October 2012.

      Give it a couple hours or so and it should be live.

    24. Brent79
      10-23-2012
      06:36 PM
      24

      F*ck you sony.....That is all :D

    25. cloudx
      10-23-2012
      07:15 PM
      25

      i guess they must've founded a loop hole before releasing it xD

    26. Mackdanny
      10-23-2012
      09:37 PM
      26

      Out for at least a couple hours now.... i aint turnin my ps3 off, im stayin on 4.25 until somethin happen

    27. butnut
      10-23-2012
      09:47 PM
      27

      I think I'll just wait a few days before I update, see if it's safe to do it or what.

    28. Kazrael21
      10-23-2012
      10:15 PM
      28

      Originally Posted by ricker View Post
      I would be elated if it did stop hacked psn access. absolutely nothing good comes from people writing online hacks. ruins games. do what you will to your ps3, i have no problems hacking your ps3, just stay the hell off psn.

      **** psn and all other ways to get online here should be outlawed from this site.
      Hey if your talented enough to hack and do some extraordinary modding then go for it, everyone else can hate it all they want but bottom line is --you still have people in the game shooting eachother, with the exception that one guy is flying around...everyone has the ability to do it, its just that only one guy is smart enough to actually enable the full potential of his gaming console.

    29. tjhooker73
      10-23-2012
      10:18 PM
      29

      I heard the Folding Research was done.

    30. cuberider
      10-23-2012
      10:42 PM
      30

      Update the Orig OFW ps3
      System-Software Version 4.30

      no Trophy List

      and add singstar ******

    31. butnut
      10-23-2012
      10:51 PM
      31

      [MENTION=97984]cuberider[/MENTION]

      Trophies are supposed to be in the psn category now.

    32. Sawatis
      10-23-2012
      11:00 PM
      32

      so far 4.30 seems very sluggish....

    33. JustThatDude
      10-23-2012
      11:16 PM
      33

      Guys we have a decrypted 4.30 Keys Now.

    34. VashTS
      10-23-2012
      11:33 PM
      34

      and where was this info obtained? did you do it? or did you hear it was done?

    35. JustThatDude
      10-23-2012
      11:38 PM
      35

      Originally Posted by VashTS View Post
      and where was this info obtained? did you do it? or did you hear it was done?
      I heard it was done we have the static keys for lv0 there is no way they would have been able to do anything in two days

    36. cloudx
      10-24-2012
      12:07 AM
      36

      staying on 4.25 and not updating this time XD.

    37. pereb27
      10-24-2012
      12:12 AM
      37

      Originally Posted by jorgebus View Post
      I found this the removal of folding[MENTION=98700]hom[/MENTION]e sopport a disrespect by Sony against the project as a whole.

      Once more, shame on you Sony...
      Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt View Post
      I agree. That was even helping research that could better benefit mankind one day through collective computing. And it would crunch some numbers as well.

      Sony only cares about Sony. Another point for Microsoft :D At least they contribute lots to charities. This isn't even a charity and they stop it....just some number crunching for research for Stanford University I believe it was.
      Except it's Stanford that decided to end f@h as they don't need it anymore...

    38. BobbyBlunt
      10-24-2012
      12:14 AM
      38

      Originally Posted by pereb27 View Post
      Except it's Stanford that decided to end f@h as they don't need it anymore...
      Awesome thanks for correcting me....can I still blame sony though

    39. Descrambler
      10-24-2012
      01:52 AM
      39

      4.30 is now online !

      http://deu01.ps3.update.playstation....0/PS3UPDAT.PUP

      MD5: 7E99B978582026DF83AD7224FFA8C8D0

      LV0: Boot Loader SE Version 4.3.0 (Build ID: 4878,49489, Build Date: 2012-10-17_17:48:21)

    40. wakka_wakka
      10-24-2012
      03:30 AM
      40

      Originally Posted by pereb27 View Post
      Except it's Stanford that decided to end f@h as they don't need it anymore...
      Could you link to where you read that?

    41. DEFAULTDNB
      10-24-2012
      04:09 AM
      41

      Just updated to 4.30... very nearly updated my CFW machine... PHEW!

      Trophies are moved to different column, weird

    42. DEFAULTDNB
      10-24-2012
      04:09 AM
      42

      Just updated to 4.30... very nearly updated my CFW machine... PHEW!

      Trophies are moved to different column, weird

    43. pereb27
      10-24-2012
      07:07 AM
      43

      Originally Posted by wakka_wakka View Post
      Could you link to where you read that?
      http://www.officialplaystationmagazi...utation-hours/

    44. hello345
      10-24-2012
      03:56 PM
      44

      Originally Posted by Kazrael21 View Post
      Hey if your talented enough to hack and do some extraordinary modding then go for it, everyone else can hate it all they want but bottom line is --you still have people in the game shooting eachother, with the exception that one guy is flying around...everyone has the ability to do it, its just that only one guy is smart enough to actually enable the full potential of his gaming console.
      I'd rather say that the bottom line is that one guy ruins the experience for all the other players. I've experienced cheating in Modern Warfare 2 and it takes pretty much all the fun out of the game when one or several of persons are runing and flying around killing everyone and can't be killed themself. It can be interesting/funny to see within the first two minutes or so, but after that it just gets annoying and can easily ruin the game experience, in my opinion.

      I hope that there wont be any cheating online for PS3 games due to this new custom firmware developement.


      Yep, it seems that Pande Group have ended the support for the PS3 client of Folding At Home for some reason.

      It seems that Folding At Home is still be supported in general. The website is up and PC client can still be downloaded here: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/HomePage

      So anyone who wants to help can still do it No need for the PS3 to be able to help (doubtful that many only owns a PS3 and not a PC).

    45. Kazrael21
      10-24-2012
      04:34 PM
      45

      [QUOTE=hello345;457895]I'd rather say that the bottom line is that one guy ruins the experience for all the other players.
      I hope that there wont be any cheating online for PS3 games due to this new custom firmware developement.
      QUOTE]

      Highly unrealistic. No offense I respect your opinions, however there are ways around this, such as logging onto a different lobby.
      As long as modders and devs exist in the world hacking and modding will never stop and I hope it never will. Many players actually enjoy playing in modded lobbies, and many lobbies ive been on have kept it fair by giving everyone the same abilities. And like I said everyone can do the same thing, they are usually just too inexperienced to do it
      (i do agree that playing with GOD MODE on for an entire match is a bit much)

    46. hello345
      10-24-2012
      05:52 PM
      46

      Originally Posted by Kazrael21 View Post
      Highly unrealistic. No offense I respect your opinions, however there are ways around this, such as logging onto a different lobby.
      As long as modders and devs exist in the world hacking and modding will never stop and I hope it never will. Many players actually enjoy playing in modded lobbies, and many lobbies ive been on have kept it fair by giving everyone the same abilities. And like I said everyone can do the same thing, they are usually just too inexperienced to do it
      (i do agree that playing with GOD MODE on for an entire match is a bit much)
      Sure, playing in modded lobbies is cool, i have no problem with that Then everyone knows the rules and what to expect when playing in those lobbies. This is a very good thing, i agree with you on this.

      What i talked about earlier is people who come into any lobby and then start to cheat in the game. It really ruins the experience for those who want to play without mods or cheats. I shouldn't have to join and quit many lobbies/games before i find one where there are no cheaters.

      I remember back when i tried Modern Warfare 2, i had to join a game, then quit because of cheaters, then join another game, then quit again because of cheaters. This was pretty annoying after a while. Luckily i was pretty much done with playing Modern Warfare 2 before all the cheating started, but if i played the game actively, this would have been really annoying. Maybe so annoying that i would have to stop playing the game even if i didn't want to.

      Playing in modded lobbies only, that is cool, but people shouldn't go into any random lobby and start to cheat.

      But yes, i think it is unrealistic that there will be a lot of cheating on PS3 games even with this new CFW 4.21. I don't think it will happen, i just hope that it wont be any problems

    47. fanboysarestupid
      10-24-2012
      06:47 PM
      47

      Originally Posted by cuberider View Post
      Update the Orig OFW ps3
      System-Software Version 4.30

      no Trophy List

      and add singstar ******
      $ony moved the trophies to under Network or whatever it's called.

    48. Kazrael21
      10-24-2012
      08:53 PM
      48

      Originally Posted by hello345 View Post
      I shouldn't have to join and quit many lobbies/games before i find one where there are no cheaters.
      I agree that can become exhausting. Ive played a match when everyone got sick of the hacker and all switched over to the other team, so it was like 12 of us vs. the 1 hacker(cheater)..needless to say we all got our a$$e$ kicked. that was an annoying match..

    49. hello345
      10-25-2012
      07:00 AM
      49

      Originally Posted by Kazrael21 View Post
      I agree that can become exhausting. Ive played a match when everyone got sick of the hacker and all switched over to the other team, so it was like 12 of us vs. the 1 hacker(cheater)..needless to say we all got our a$$e$ kicked. that was an annoying match..
      Yeah, this is the situation that don't want to happen It gets boring if one person cheats. But modded lobbies are fine i think, then people know that mods and/or cheats are possible, i have no problem with that =)

    50. stevorkz
      10-25-2012
      07:21 AM
      50

      Originally Posted by hellsing9 View Post
      What happens if i don't want to update? = I can't play my legit games online.
      What happens if i can play my legit games online? = I get mad.
      What happens when i get mad = I turn to Xbox360
      ...and what happens when I turn to Xbox 360? = next gen console will strictly be from microsoft. I cant believe how from a business point of view, Sony cant see that.

    51. hello345
      10-25-2012
      08:07 AM
      51

      Originally Posted by stevorkz View Post
      ...and what happens when I turn to Xbox 360? = next gen console will strictly be from microsoft. I cant believe how from a business point of view, Sony cant see that.
      The PS3 and Xbox 360 have sold about just as much hardware this generation despite Microsofts ~1 year headstart. Why would the next generation be strictly from Microsoft?

    52. stevorkz
      10-25-2012
      08:10 AM
      52

      Originally Posted by hello345 View Post
      The PS3 and Xbox 360 have sold about just as much hardware this generation despite Microsofts ~1 year headstart. Why would the next generation be strictly from Microsoft?
      Because Microsoft doesn't dumb down their consoles abilities with almost every update

      Whenever I hear of a new ps3 update I get a sick feeling in my stomach.

    53. fanboysarestupid
      10-25-2012
      08:22 AM
      53

      Originally Posted by stevorkz View Post
      Because Microsoft doesn't dumb down their consoles abilities with almost every update

      Whenever I hear of a new ps3 update I get a sick feeling in my stomach.
      And with every new dashboard update Microsoft has made sure of adding useful features instead of being like $ony, removing features and not being able to do much with it.

      It's true that the US PlayStation now has a couple of Apps like on Xbox 360, but I suppose if it wasn't Microsoft that started it I doubt $ony would've added them at all. They'd probably forget or never cared.

      You know, PS3's internet browser could be updated.. I wish.

    54. stevorkz
      10-25-2012
      09:04 AM
      54

      Ya exactly. Turn on a launch 360 with the very first firmware and turn on an up to date 360. It almost feels like 2 different consoles. They give the user a fresh experience with their updates.

      Then do the same with ps3. They're identical. With little to no improvement to the end user...only to Sony

    55. hello345
      10-25-2012
      09:25 AM
      55

      Originally Posted by stevorkz View Post
      Because Microsoft doesn't dumb down their consoles abilities with almost every update

      Whenever I hear of a new ps3 update I get a sick feeling in my stomach.
      Nor does Sony. Some things have been removed indeed, but they've also added many things compared to the launch. It is a pity for those who care about the things that are removed, but most people seems to not care about it. Otherwise the PS3 wouldn't sell like at the current level that it is selling.

      Pity to hear that you get sick to your stomach from every PS3 firmware update. Isn't it best to sell your PS3 if it affects you this much? Personally i don't think i would keep a device that made me sick. I'd rather sell it to get rid of the unnecessary problem and go for some other alternative instead (in this case, PC, Xbox 360 and/or Wii)


      Originally Posted by fanboysarestupid View Post
      And with every new dashboard update Microsoft has made sure of adding useful features instead of being like $ony, removing features and not being able to do much with it.

      It's true that the US PlayStation now has a couple of Apps like on Xbox 360, but I suppose if it wasn't Microsoft that started it I doubt $ony would've added them at all. They'd probably forget or never cared.

      You know, PS3's internet browser could be updated.. I wish.
      Out of curiousity, what features do Microsoft add? I know that they add things for those who pay for Xbox Live Gold, but what features do they add that every Xbox 360 owner can use?

      I don't think that Microsoft is the pioneer within adding apps. The market has gone a lot more digital over the last few years. Streaming of videos and such has become much more common. These apps makes both Microsoft and Sony money, so i think that they would have added these apps regardless of what the competitor does.

      The PS3 browser was updated in firmware 4.10.

    56. fanboysarestupid
      10-25-2012
      10:45 AM
      56

      Originally Posted by hello345 View Post
      Out of curiousity, what features do Microsoft add? I know that they add things for those who pay for Xbox Live Gold, but what features do they add that every Xbox 360 owner can use?
      New:
      - Full Kinect Support
      - Marketplace of Apps
      - Internet Explorer for Xbox (HTML5 -- Flash is going to die eventually)
      - Windows 8 Metro Dashboard (Before it was the NXE Dashboard)
      - My Pins (Able to pin content instead of going through the menus manually)
      - SmartGlass (Watch this video: Link)
      - Bing Search Engine
      - Able to personally change the console's name to what you want

      Other features that were already on Xbox 360:
      - Ability to install all games on the HDD
      - Listen to music while browsing or gaming
      - Once the game is downloaded you can play straight away
      - Download content while the console is in stand-by mode

      Originally Posted by hello345 View Post
      The PS3 browser was updated in firmware 4.10.
      Unfortunately it's still awful and the YouTube videos are 240p only, plus other websites have issues because PS3's internet browser isn't up to date.

    57. hello345
      10-25-2012
      03:44 PM
      57

      [MENTION=240661]fanboysarestupid[/MENTION] Thanks for the list. Internet Explorer for Xbox requires Xbox Live Gold however, or did they recently change that? For comparison, the PS3 has gotten Move support, trophies, Vita support, in-game XMB support, text chat support, video and photo editing possibilites, Vidzone and 3D Bluray support. But the Xbox 360 does have some nice features that the PS3 doesn't have indeed

      Yeah, the PS3 browser ins't the best. I only use it for forums and such, it works fine enough for that in my opinion. For Youtube, use www.ps3youtube.com instead. Then you can view Youtube videos in higher quality. I don't like that Youtube XL stuff.

    58. stevorkz
      10-26-2012
      01:48 AM
      58

      Originally Posted by hello345 View Post
      Nor does Sony. Some things have been removed indeed, but they've also added many things compared to the launch. It is a pity for those who care about the things that are removed, but most people seems to not care about it. Otherwise the PS3 wouldn't sell like at the current level that it is selling.
      Its a pity for those who care about things that are removed? Well where I come from when features are removed from a very expensive piece of equipment that I payed hard earned cash for, and theres nothing I can do about it if I want to play my expensive new games, I tend to care about it. I think there are an insane amount of people that care about it especially when talking about otheros. And when you say most people seem not to care about it that's because they are casual in which case OFW suits them perfectly. Also I wouldn't say they've added 'many' things when being compared to the 360 for example...and even from those 'many' things, most of them the average ps3 owner doesn't care about.

      Originally Posted by hello345 View Post
      Pity to hear that you get sick to your stomach from every PS3 firmware update.
      You do know that you are on a ps3 hacking site right? And you do know the status of the scene at the moment right? If you knew those two things, you would also know that with every update comes along added security which compromises hacking the ps3 open to its full potential. That's why myself and alot of people here don't like updates regardless of whether we own second OFW ps3's or not. Added to that the fact that they take features away with their updates. Sure they give and take, but they give things that aren't as important to the things that they take.

      Originally Posted by hello345 View Post
      Isn't it best to sell your PS3 if it affects you this much? Personally i don't think i would keep a device that made me sick. I'd rather sell it to get rid of the unnecessary problem and go for some other alternative instead (in this case, PC, Xbox 360 and/or Wii)
      Bud please grow up. You know very well I meant the UPDATES and not the ps3 as a whole...hence why I actually said...UPDATES. You were almost bringing valid arguments to the table before saying something as immature as this. With regards to his name Its kind of fitting for [MENTION=240661]fanboysarestupid[/MENTION] to be in this thread.

      Originally Posted by hello345 View Post
      Out of curiousity, what features do Microsoft add? I know that they add things for those who pay for Xbox Live Gold, but what features do they add that every Xbox 360 owner can use?
      Alot more than ps3 sadly. *curiosity

      There is quite a number of people that own 360's here as well as ps3's and saying one is better than the other would be foolish because they both bring different and awesome things to the table. But they both have their cons as well so don't go telling people to sell their ps3 just because they list something they don't like about the machine. Especially when its something so relevant to the tone of ps3hax. No one on cfw likes OFW updates here unless they own 2 ps3's (which only makes up for about 10-15% of the site)

    59. hello345
      10-26-2012
      06:21 AM
      59

      Originally Posted by stevorkz View Post
      Its a pity for those who care about things that are removed? Well where I come from when features are removed from a very expensive piece of equipment that I payed hard earned cash for, and theres nothing I can do about it if I want to play my expensive new games, I tend to care about it. I think there are an insane amount of people that care about it especially when talking about otheros. And when you say most people seem not to care about it that's because they are casual in which case OFW suits them perfectly. Also I wouldn't say they've added 'many' things when being compared to the 360 for example...and even from those 'many' things, most of them the average ps3 owner doesn't care about.
      Yes, that is exactly why it is a pity if features gets removed if people use and care about those features. They don't have a choice to keep the features (well, unless they don't want to play newer games or login to PSN), that is what is a pity/sucks.

      I'm sure that many cares about it, but i was thinking more in general of the ~65 million PS3 consoles that are sold. As you say, most people seems to be suited perfectly with OFW. I said this in regards to what you said about next gen being strictly from Microsoft (i know you were'nt 100% serious about this of course, but i wanted to mention it anyway). I think that most people in general are happy enough with OFW (for all consoles, not just the PS3), so this probably won't affect the sales that much i think.


      Originally Posted by stevorkz View Post
      You do know that you are on a ps3 hacking site right? And you do know the status of the scene at the moment right? If you knew those two things, you would also know that with every update comes along added security which compromises hacking the ps3 open to its full potential. That's why myself and alot of people here don't like updates regardless of whether we own second OFW ps3's or not. Added to that the fact that they take features away with their updates. Sure they give and take, but they give things that aren't as important to the things that they take.
      Sorry, i thought you were just sick of the updates in general. But if you mean it in regards that new updates can be blocking exploits etc., then i understand what you mean.

      For me, i've cared much more about the added stuff than what was removed. I value for example trophies and in-game XMB ten times more than OtherOS (i never used it on my 60GB PS3). But this is subjective of course. Someone else most likely valued OtherOS a lot more than anything that were added, i can see that.



      Originally Posted by stevorkz View Post
      Bud please grow up. You know very well I meant the UPDATES and not the ps3 as a whole...hence why I actually said...UPDATES. You were almost bringing valid arguments to the table before saying something as immature as this. With regards to his name Its kind of fitting for [MENTION=240661]fanboysarestupid[/MENTION] to be in this thread.
      I wasn't trying to be rude or immature, sorry if it came across like that. I just ment that if there is some part of a electronic product that make one sick, i just wanted to ask if it is better to go with another alternative. I would have said exactly the same regardless of what product it was, not only the PS3. If i was a big PS3 fanboy and disliked the other consoles, then i wouldn't have asked if it was best to sell the PS3 and go with another alternative



      Originally Posted by stevorkz View Post
      Alot more than ps3 sadly. *curiosity

      There is quite a number of people that own 360's here as well as ps3's and saying one is better than the other would be foolish because they both bring different and awesome things to the table. But they both have their cons as well so don't go telling people to sell their ps3 just because they list something they don't like about the machine. Especially when its something so relevant to the tone of ps3hax. No one on cfw likes OFW updates here unless they own 2 ps3's (which only makes up for about 10-15% of the site)
      I didn't tell anyone to sell their PS3s, i asked if it made you sick, if it wasn't better to go with another alternative then. But you clearified above here what you ment with it, that is fair enough, i understand now what you ment with it.

      I don't write anything in between the lines here. If i ask a question, then it is because i want to see the reply/point of view to my question, nothing more to it than that. I hate to fight and agrue hostile, so this is not my intentions at all if i ask a question that might seems like it.

      I agree with what you say here, both consoles has their pros and cons. And i'm glad that more consoles excist because it means more options for the consumers

    60. fanboysarestupid
      10-26-2012
      07:54 AM
      60

      I don't really see why $ony never bothered to add essential features such as allowing the end users to install all PS3 games data on the HDD and custom soundtrack.

      Both features that I listed are decided by the developers if they're allowed or not. I really wish PS3 wouldn't need to be restricted to the decision of the devs, it's their game, but I bought the games and I'm the one that makes the final decision.

      Right now my PS3's still with 4.21 OFW but someday I'll downgrade it or who knows in the future if a 4.21 CFW for 4.21 OFW is produced.

    61. Cheesethief
      10-26-2012
      08:01 AM
      61

      Originally Posted by fanboysarestupid View Post
      I don't really see why $ony never bothered to add essential features such as allowing the end users to install all PS3 games data on the HDD and custom soundtrack.

      Both features that I listed are decided by the developers if they're allowed or not. I really wish PS3 wouldn't need to be restricted to the decision of the devs, it's their game, but I bought the games and I'm the one that makes the final decision.

      Right now my PS3's still with 4.21 OFW but someday I'll downgrade it or who knows in the future if a 4.21 CFW for 4.21 OFW is produced.
      Microsoft owns a patent on in-game music. If Sony allowed forcing in-game music on all games, they would be breaching the patent. So they allow devs to allow/disallow it.