Yes, media is twisting facts and contacting sources that are kinda mediocre (lame) in terms of explaining to the average reader = What happened, what will happen and many other *details* that gets copy/pasted all over the place.
Thing is if this is true maybe Sony due to the recent events with Lv0-Gate (bootldr) will push the release date of PS4 (AKA Orbis).
Meanwhile on Microsoft side with Xbox720 they maybe exploring a subscription based pricing.
The PS3 got hacked recently, as we reported here. The system’s Lv0 keys were leaked apparently by a Chinese hacking team. Sony had a terrible time since 2010 after Geohot got his hands on the system and managed to compromise it. Sony bounced back but it wasn’t enough, it was a tough battle against a bunch of hacker groups and an entire third-party team looking to DDOS your network.
Sony fought back and some may say they won and managed to keep the PS3 secure, but it looks like the system is hacked again. And this time it allows hackers to do anything they want if they’re on firmware 3.6.
This could, of course, force Sony to release the PS4 sooner (according to inentertainment)  if the software sales fall down below desired levels. Not a big deal though, since I think it’s coming next year anyway because no way Sony and Microsoft will give Nintendo another year in the market.
We have more reports coming in that Microsoft may be exploring a subscription based pricing for the Xbox 720. It is sort of a subsidized pricing scheme that we saw earlier with the Xbox 360 $99 model.
This is what the Easternmorningherald reports:
As mentioned, this subsidized pricing scheme is still in its early stages but it seems to be getting good response in some sectors; particularly the ones who would prefer saving cash upfront when it comes to getting their consoles.
[Source] = Gamingbolt
10-29-2012
08:16 PM
Eh you know news magazines always over-dramatize eveything just so they can get more readers. It's a terrible ploy to try to win over Internet-based forums and news readings from the Web.
Personally, I say who cares? If the PS3's "downsizing" is any indication (loss of backwards compatibility, loss of memory card slots, loss of 2 USB ports, and loss of OtherOS) then what makes anyone think Orbis will be much better? You can't add features to a game system if the company is so scared of having its system compromised as features are added in.
It will be a stripped down, water diluted version of the PS3 with a little more power under the hood so they can say "This is better!". I say as I've heard many times before, Bollocks!
10-29-2012
08:17 PM
Sony is predictable..on Microsoft side..i don't know.
10-29-2012
08:21 PM
Don't forget them taking away the extra HDMI port on the PS3 before it even hit the shelves.
I expect Sony to rush out Orbis with the turn of events. PS3 will be the last console I'll buy. PC Gaming for me. I wish PC gaming had a racing franchise on the same level as Forza or GT5.
10-29-2012
08:21 PM
BTW, Tits or GTFO. (LOL You know someone had to! I expected it to have been said already but since no one else has stepped up...)
10-29-2012
08:25 PM
SERIOUSLY WHY ARE PEOPLE BEING SO GOD DAMN EXAGGERATED ABOUT PS3 GETTING HACKED?
YOU DON'T SEE MICROSOFT OR NINTENDO GETTING ALL "OH MY THEY HACKED MY CONSOLE"
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, 360 AND WII WERE HACKED AGES AGO AND THEY'RE DOING GREAT.
CALM THE FÚCK DOWN!
/CAPS OFF
10-29-2012
08:28 PM
Yeah next time they will remove even the controllers...well there goes $ony
10-29-2012
08:31 PM
10-29-2012
08:33 PM
OCZ Actuator - Play Video Games With Your Mind - YouTube
Maybe this is the future..? xD
10-29-2012
08:39 PM
10-29-2012
08:39 PM
if you see carefully the strategy, you will see which one works better. Microsoft "allows" (see the quotes) to get Xbox hacked, but keep the consoles hacked out Xbox Live. My way to think is.. "ok you can have your console hacked, but if you want to play online you must be legal". Sony.. well, we all know Sony´s strategy...
What i'm trying to say is... one strategy brought more buyers than the other. Guess which one :P
10-29-2012
08:42 PM
If $ony fails with PS4 we are going to play with our imagination at this rate.
10-29-2012
08:48 PM
10-29-2012
08:52 PM
I have a ps3, don't need a ps4. the news should be...after the recent ps3 hack (yeah, it happened again
) sony consider to push the release of lv0.2 keys for everyone who's stuck it that lame 3k/4k models
thats what I would call news, here in scene
10-29-2012
08:52 PM
Talk about smart releasing now cuz of all the hacks just shows that the new models are obviously close to bein hacked.
10-29-2012
08:54 PM
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10-29-2012
09:00 PM
That thing playing with the mind and eyes closed looks pretty weird, maybe it's possible in the future.
Anyway, is $ony honestly that worried about this? It's just hard to believe they actually care about this.
Hell, like said before 3.56+ FW can't hack their PS3s (unless downgraded) and PS3 Slim model 3000 and 4000 have no way at all. Just take some weed and chill.
10-29-2012
09:19 PM
A company is a company, they will always be looking at their bottom line, and trying to stop those who endanger that bottom line.
10-29-2012
10:12 PM
bullsht i havent even seen a ps4 test system im happy with my cfw enabled ps3 for now and they just said they will support the ps3 till 2015... and just because of the hack they will will rush the ps4??lol the news is so stupid.. if hacks are really a big deal to them the last thing they want to do is rush the ps4 or it will get hacked earlier than the ps3... the hack will never do any harm on the ps3 trust me i have play pirated 360 games since 2006 microsoft didnt care
10-29-2012
10:13 PM
10-29-2012
10:14 PM
and at $99 xbox is still a rip off you will still gonna pay for xbox live gold for $15 a month its not like their gonna really sell the xbox 360 for that cheap theirs still a catch
10-29-2012
10:29 PM
I prefer spend "this money" in a nexus 7, or something better...probably in ps4, you cannot turn on the system if a new update is detected (its only thing they forgot to do, to force a update...)
10-29-2012
10:32 PM
Long story short...and quick question? when you think PS4 will be announced/released?.
/me thinks = Late 2013.
10-29-2012
11:12 PM
I am all for hacking, but we have to remember that consoles are not supposed to replace your pc. Gaming consoles have only one main purpose and that is to play games. Everything else is secondary.
10-30-2012
12:02 AM
I can accept that I lose some functionality should I choose not to update...things like added features or the ability to use online play. But losing the core features of the system, turning it into a very expensive brick, just isn't acceptable to me. I can almost hear them screaming from behind the screen...CONFORM!!! CONSUME!!! CONFORM!!! CONSUME!!!
It's sad that we should HAVE to hack our systems just to maintain features we like, experiment with our systems, or get functionality back.
So where are we left when we can't even play the games the system was meant for?
10-30-2012
12:10 AM
Its always been and always will be November 2013..
Stupid magazine is stupid
10-30-2012
12:11 AM
[MENTION=37550]go-kun[/MENTION] Even if it sounds like a drama-filled rant(?), I agree with 100% of what you said. If they force you to update to continue to use standard accessories such as BD Player, then what else is left but TO hack it?
10-30-2012
12:40 AM
10-30-2012
01:14 AM
probably next year holiday season.. but launch title would suck like always
10-30-2012
01:17 AM
They have to sink nintendo first...then magic will happen.
We will have *invisible* consoles at very *invisible* prices with a poor catalogue of games.
[spoiler]
NOT
[/spoiler]
10-30-2012
03:29 AM
Another great sony strategy. Rush the ps4 as quickly as possible for three reasons :
1. Ps3 is on the road to being blown WIDE open
2. They've just released CECH-4000 and arent willing to waste money on yet a FOURTH version of ps3 with "added security"
3. They need to start contending with Wii-U
Because of this I wont be caught dead near a launch ps4. Whenever Sony rushes consoles, you get the serious manufacturing faults. Its like they basically use us as a level of testers (YLOD or RSOD on ps4 anyone?)
10-30-2012
03:43 AM
2.)Yeah I doubt they can find any cheaper trash at the junk yard to assemble a newer cheaper ps3 with.
3.)Vita connectivity is how they plan on contending with the Wii-U. Just like 360 and smartglass. No originality anymore
Sony isnt going to rush anything. Sadly they have their own schedule and it isnt like they can just pull a PS4 out of their asses. Right now they are in early prototype stage at very best. They could rush it but let us look at another console that also got very little attention before launch and failed because of it (among other reasons).... The Sega Saturn.
a quote from wikipedia since many people may not know this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Sa...he_marketplace
"By the end of 1994, the 16-bit video game era was in twilight in North America and gamers were eagerly anticipating the new 32-bit machines from Japan. In early 1995, Sega of America president Tom Kalinske announced that the Saturn would launch in the U.S. on "Saturnday", (Saturday) September 2, 1995.[16] This date was greatly anticipated by gamers and the media. It also allowed Sony to announce that the PlayStation release date would be one week later on September 9, 1995.[17]
However, on May 11, 1995, at the first Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3), Kalinske announced that the "Saturnday" date was a ruse and that the system was being released nationwide by four select retailers (Toys "R" Us, Babbage's, Software Etc. and Electronics Boutique[18]) immediately.[19] It appeared that Sega had a real opportunity to take a commanding 4-month lead in the 32-bit race by beating the PlayStation to the market."
Perfect example of what rushing a consumer electronic out to the public will actually turn out
See what happens when there is a last minute change of plans? That console bombed and was the beginning of the end of Sega in the console market.
Sadly I have been telling myself for a while that Sony is going to be the next Sega if they don't get back to the roots of how the PS brand should be.
10-30-2012
03:46 AM
10-30-2012
03:48 AM
10-30-2012
03:51 AM
Its def not a gif
10-30-2012
03:58 AM
It might be my ad block. Also there are other things Sony can do to stop the things that have happened as far as most of us have concluded. Remember we thought 3.55 was the end and wow were we wrong LOL.
You should come by and hang out in the IRC server sometime. Most of the best discussions happen there
10-30-2012
04:01 AM
if anything i would see sony pushing back any ps4 release to try to tighten up the security even more.
i personally am not looking forward to the next "next gen" consoles. i liked the simplicity of PS2, buy a game, stick it into the system, start the ps2 and bam game loads. no worrying if you have enough free hdd space to install game data, no forced system update that could be buggy or brick the system. no annoying popup prompt mid game for update patches if you choose to not do a initial update patch.
looking at psvita and sonys newer protection on it i can see ps4 being a huge annoyance. a forced update and must be online to just rip a cd to the hdd, or copy pictures or video files.
what i wonder is if sony will abandon the sooner now. i kinda hope that 3k and 4k ps3s never get the ability to use cfw
10-30-2012
04:03 AM
brainwave control was a bull**** marketing ploy. everything was controlled via facial muscles and eye twitching. the waves function was not controllable as those were subconscious
it took me damn near a month to be able to play UT3
10-30-2012
04:30 AM
(I did buy it because of the high res display (2880x1800) and the sexy look, not because it is Apple btw).
OT, damn what a lot of errors in that writing... 3.60 hackable, Geohot, Chinese hacking team releasing the bootldr keys... worthless journalist
10-30-2012
04:47 AM
[MENTION=9831]SniperSnake[/MENTION] I know what you mean. I love computers gaming very much. But when I sit in front of a console I want the peace of mind to just be able to slap in a game and play. No system requirements no driver updates etc.
Nowadays its firmware updates, game installation (can speed up loading times but still), DLC. The piece of mind to just play the game you paid for is sort of still there but dwindling fast.
I heard a rumour that next gen consoles may use the internet to validate game purchases. Lets hope that doesn't happen
10-30-2012
04:54 AM
Uncharted 4?
10-30-2012
06:41 AM
The latest PS3 hacking will most likely have very little impact on the PS3 business as a whole in my opinion.
First off, it happend very late in the PS3 lifecycle. The PS3 is now about 6 years old now. It would be different if it got hacked very early in its lifecycle. The hacks also currently only work on firmware 3.55 or lower.
Sony managed to block the PS3 hacking pretty good for about 1.5 years. It wasn't waterproof, cracked/fixed eboots got released over this period of time and there was also the TrueBlue dongle. But it wasn't as open as it is now. This resulted that several of people upgraded from 3.55 because they were tired of waiting to play new games. This means that less people are on firmware 3.55 or lower today. If i should take a wild guess, i'd guess that less than around 1% (or maybe even less) of all PS3s that excist today are on firmware 3.55 or lower.
Of course downgrade is possible on older PS3s, but it requires you top open the PS3 and you need a hardware flasher. This limits the appeal in general compared to just doing a simple software hack or firmware file install.
There are also people who will use CFW for homebrew only and buy all the games they want to play as well.
So overall, i'd say that the PS3 hacking will have very little affect on the PS3 business. If the PS4 is being pushed forward, i'd say that it is mostly because to release before the Xbox 720, or release it at a similar time as the Xbox 720.
10-30-2012
08:07 AM
I wanna buy Uncharted 2-4 and play them all without the worry there's a damn sequel coming.
[MENTION=243612]hello345[/MENTION], you seem to forget the reason why the hackers allowed PS3 to stay legit for a bit amount of time, it was because they/we had OtherOS now we don't... They just made things better now.
Media Showtime Centre is awesome but I've yet to try it out.
10-30-2012
08:39 AM
Maybe, The Last of Us 2 will be a exclusive on PS4, but only if The Last of Us rocks
10-30-2012
08:54 AM
talk that dominated the ps3, but everything is still the same thing .. you guys can only go up to where the leaves sony ...
10-30-2012
08:56 AM
10-30-2012
08:59 AM
10-30-2012
09:51 AM
Sony said that the PS3 has some years left, so I don't think they will rush on the PS4 yet (not even with all this LV0 and CFW stuff out on the streets).
The Wii-U is not a real competitor in the new generation, and we don't have a date of release for the XBOX 720. Maybe, and I'm taking a long shot here, they will announce the release date by Winter 2012-2013, so that you can get the new piece by the holidays.
If Sony wants to win the next generation console war, then they need to remove Hirai from office (and back to the software section, where he belongs) and start applying the success' formula from the PS1 and PS2 eras. Simple as that.
By the way, do this guys (the journalist from the sources) are paid for writting ****?... damn, I want to write bull**** and get paid, too.
10-30-2012
10:03 AM
In response to the thread: Not unless someone releases an exploit for 4.XX consoles to install CFW.
10-30-2012
10:16 AM
I might buy the next home PlayStation console but I have to keep in mind it'll probably have even less liberty and features than the PS3 did.
No USB transfers (pictures/video/music/gamesaves), no internet browser (maybe it's for the best since $ony never really updated it to today's standards the PS3 browser) or the Recovery Menu. Or even the famous OtherOS.
It'd be kinda funny if $ony admitted they're losing their nerves with something like this. I don't believe they are. It's just silly media hype.
Kevin Butler, where are you to make a joke out of this...
10-30-2012
11:23 AM
im not talking about the xbox live gold promos that u can get for cheap dirt... i was referring to their $99 xbox 360 deal with 2 yr subscription which u can get on gamestop etc its still a rip off at the end it will cost around 250-300 still but i see that its their marketing plan
10-30-2012
05:17 PM
As for homebrew support on PS4, i think a XNA (that excist for Xbox 360) and Playstation Mobile type solution is more likely. That you pay i.e $99 a year and you get a SDK which lets you make games and apps. If there will be any homebrew support at all that is.
Regarding USB transfer, i'm pretty sure this will be included. This was not a security risk on the PS3 as far as i know, especially not for videos, music and pictures. Copying savegames could be used a bit for leaderboard hacks etc. in some Call of Duty games to begin with, but this was not really a threat to the PS3 security itself. I'm not 100% sure regarding savegames and USB transfer on PS4, but for video, music and pictures i'm 99.9% sure
I'm also pretty sure that a internet browser will be included. I think that both Microsoft and Sony will go with a more multimedia type console with Xbox 720 and PS4. Then a browser is almost a must-have in my opinion. The PS3 browser is based on Webkit, i think it will be the same in PS4. I think it will run more smooth due to more powerful hardware. Maybe it is better optimized as well if PS4 use a more standard CPU architecture other than CELL. But only time will tell.
I have no idea if a recover menu will be included again. But if i should guess, i think Sony will incorporate efuses. If i'm not mistaken, this makes it much harder (or maybe even impossible) to downgrade the firmware. Xbox 360 uses efuses. In this case, having a recovery menu might be included. Sony didn't drop the recovery menu on the Vita at least.
Next year will be very interesting, hopefully both PS4 and Xbox 720 is out within 2013
EDIT: Hm, regarding efuses, it says in the Wikipedia article that PS3 uses efuses. Does anyone have some more info about this?
10-30-2012
06:25 PM
10-30-2012
07:22 PM
10-30-2012
11:35 PM
The only thing these companies understand is money. We have to speak with our wallets. But there are too many people who don't have self control or are dazzled with console exclusives and shiny "new" graphics. But see, it's not that simple, not everyone is tech saavy. There is a market for console owners obviously. They just want to pop in a game and play.
If these companies keep giving watered down crap, taking away things, restricting play of used games, inserting ads/commercials in to our games, then simply put, don't give them your money.
10-31-2012
01:06 AM
Well each network has their *methods* to **** you up with memberships but Live (Microsoft) is the more ****ed up one i see for a long time.
I can understand maybe (idk) they have more users on their network/s and that why you have gold, silver, brown (SIC) memberships subscription to purchase but sucks the thing that you buy some legit game on Xbox360 that has MP like mass effect 3 special edition (with the dlc's and all that ****) and you have 2 FRIGGING days of trial = GOLD to use them.
Then you are ****ed.
On the other side i did not *see* that happen on PSN, not mentioning how the network looks and the problems that they had in the past well i see sometimes better to use PSN than Live.
Why? it's cheaper at the end and you get less wallet-raped.
I purchase a game that has MP and i don't have to worry about that **** of being gold/silver/etc.
You got PLUS and that's all it with PSN.
Don't get me wrong (i own the two of them ps3/xbo360), not bashing Xbox360 tough so don't jump to my neck for stating what i think is true.
It's obvious they are after making more money and the abusive/compulsive COD gamers are the prime targets.
10-31-2012
04:52 AM
[MENTION=243612]hello345[/MENTION], on PSP for example, I'm able to run CFWE (5.03) just by running a picture exploit.
So if $ony remember this old exploit that if somehow it could be made similarly for the PS3/PS4 they'd remove the ability of managing files for pictures too.
10-31-2012
06:28 AM
10-31-2012
06:42 AM
11-03-2012
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