• Emulators, Homebrew, PS3 Hacks , 26.03.2013

    Here is a video created by UnknownArchive , it shows Roms working straight from the XMB, without having to start any app, i do not know how this works, but it relies on the best Emulator in existence, RetroArch, anyhow, enjoy the video, just a small warning though, if you are prone to butt hurt or if humour offends you, then don’t watch this:

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  • 103 Comments

    1. Kamonji
      03-26-2013
      01:00 PM
      1

      cant wait

    2. LoboGuara
      03-26-2013
      01:01 PM
      2

      I agree with multiMAN description xD (but disagree with Retroarch being the best emulator in existence)

      The forum member [MENTION=250208]doobz[/MENTION] sent me a few months ago a CPS game pkg that ran straight from the XMB, using the retroarch core on a similar way that the standalone emulators use. Maybe this guy is using a similar approach...

      I like the idea of being able to run retrogames straight from the XMB !

    3. BobbyBlunt
      03-26-2013
      01:06 PM
      3

      That is pretty sick. All labeled and accessible from the XMB

    4. DEFAULTDNB
      03-26-2013
      01:15 PM
      4

      Looking forward to this!

      Pretty simple idea: bundle the rom, cover image, and emu together minus the gui and just load

      Nice.

    5. stevorkz
      03-26-2013
      01:45 PM
      5

      Thats insane! I definitely want.


      Originally Posted by harryoke
      Multiman is ugly as sh !t f\/ckin classic line.
      I like the fart sounds as he navigates just to show how crap it is

    6. H3avyRa1n
      03-26-2013
      02:04 PM
      6

      We have a winner

    7. Isleofdoom
      03-26-2013
      02:34 PM
      7

      If this is what to come I can see this taking over all the emulators.

    8. HulkWogan
      03-26-2013
      03:12 PM
      8

      *walks away to find 6000 rom covers*

    9. brakk3n
      03-26-2013
      03:45 PM
      9

      Originally Posted by HulkWogan
      *walks away to find 6000 rom covers*
      There's more then 6,000. About 20 times more.

      I agree that both RetroArch and MultiMan both lack GUI good front ends when it comes to starting emulated games. If you look at emulators on every console they exist on most do have horrid GUI systems; except per say XBOX1 and Wii emulators.

      Skipping the GUI completely and using the XMB to launch a small collection of your favourite games is a good idea. Someone mentioned above each would contain the emulation core and that would not be the way to go, unless you want rather large file sizes.

      Having them launched by their respective core would be best, using RetroArchs buggy ported cores would be the only viable option I could see.

    10. HulkWogan
      03-26-2013
      03:50 PM
      10

      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      There's more then 6,000. About 20 times more.
      hey man gimme some time to get the rest would ya, that's all I've got so far.

    11. STLcardsWS
      03-26-2013
      04:44 PM
      11

      This is a great hack/mod to RetroArch. I have had the opportunity to test this for awhile now. Alot of great things to come.. . All RetroArch cores are supported!!! Maybe some other surprises as well


      Great Job to the Developer, You know who you are

    12. firepixiedarien
      03-26-2013
      05:10 PM
      12

      I think this song best represents the current "PS3 Scene Status":

      the Jeffersons intro theme song(Movin on Up) - YouTube

    13. Simonbuck
      03-26-2013
      05:20 PM
      13

      Its on youtube so it must be true......

      (firework ignited, stands back at a distance and waits)

    14. STLcardsWS
      03-26-2013
      05:56 PM
      14

      Originally Posted by Simonbuck
      Its on youtube so it must be true......

      (firework ignited, stands back at a distance and waits)
      Considering that there has been a few tester such as myself and [MENTION=141403]unkown[/MENTION]Archive. i would say this is real. The 200+ pkgs i have on my PS3's XMB would say it real as well ...

      [MENTION=260658]brakk3n[/MENTION]
      In regards to the Core being in the pkg. Yes the core will be with the PKG. its does add some size to the PKG, but most cores are very small. There also could be some additions to the overall project that could reduce the PKG size. More details on that at a later time. Not my info to share right now, want to make sure i have the okay to give more details.

      Here are some BG sets (pic1.png) i have been working on (some have a few errors i need to redo, im sure you will see that on the wood ones at top )
      (sets not complete yet)

      Wood set
      http://imgur.com/a/KFemM#18

      Metal Set
      http://imgur.com/a/PPPH8#0

      Also here is an album of art that UnknownArchive and myself have contributed too. (ICON0.png & PIC1.png resized for the XMB) (some images and covers where found on the net, not sure of the original creators)

    15. Simonbuck
      03-26-2013
      06:06 PM
      15

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      Considering that there has been a few tester such as myself..........
      Wind your neck in STL, It was said in jest

    16. xxmcvapourxx
      03-26-2013
      06:14 PM
      16

      Well been testing this since last night it works great,But need's a few tweak's on rogero 2.07 but gameplay wow works well dont need any emulators here is me testing with street fighter alpha 3 <--- big fan so anyone want a challenge pm me!! http://www.facebook.com/video/embed?...51812457139746 <--- this is my video Thanks to the developer who worked on this!!! Mario world addictive!!! lol

    17. firepixiedarien
      03-26-2013
      07:27 PM
      17

      Originally Posted by xxmcvapourxx
      Well been testing this since last night it works great,But need's a few tweak's on rogero 2.07
      Scuse me, I think you're 2 digits ahead.

    18. Simonbuck
      03-26-2013
      07:32 PM
      18

      Originally Posted by firepixiedarien
      Scuse me, I think you're 2 digits ahead.
      No he's not

    19. firepixiedarien
      03-26-2013
      07:39 PM
      19

      Originally Posted by Simonbuck
      No he's not
      Oh, it's the 3.55 CFW

    20. Simonbuck
      03-26-2013
      07:42 PM
      20

      no its Rogero 4.30 v2.07, you were correct on your first assumption.

    21. FreakAlchemist
      03-26-2013
      07:52 PM
      21

      Originally Posted by xxmcvapourxx
      Well been testing this since last night it works great,But need's a few tweak's on rogero 2.07 but gameplay wow works well dont need any emulators here is me testing with street fighter alpha 3 <--- big fan so anyone want a challenge pm me!! http://www.facebook.com/video/embed?...51812457139746 <--- this is my video Thanks to the developer who worked on this!!! Mario world addictive!!! lol
      You think it was wise to give out such information?

    22. Simonbuck
      03-26-2013
      07:55 PM
      22

      Originally Posted by FreakAlchemist
      You think it was wise to give out such information?
      Why not ???? [MENTION=114607]deank[/MENTION] gave it out weeks ago here when he mentioned 2.06 and 2.07

      http://www.ps3crunch.net/forum/threa...ll=1#post68839

      Its no big secret (or is it ?)

      pppfffffffff..... "Inner circle"

    23. GregoryRasputin
      03-26-2013
      09:06 PM
      23

      Originally Posted by Dried paint

      On topic: Emulation was sh|t before this came along?? Has this improved the RetroArch? Looks to me to just be an XMB loader.
      Way to go insulting the dev behind those emulators though
      Gravox go cry somewhere else.

    24. STLcardsWS
      03-26-2013
      09:07 PM
      24

      Originally Posted by Dried paint
      You know you could always ask Rogero what its all about. As far as I know theyre versions for RSOD consoles.. so I dont think youre missing out.

      On topic: Emulation was sh|t before this came along?? Has this improved the RetroArch? Looks to me to just be an XMB loader.
      Way to go insulting the dev behind those emulators though
      Those where no insults to the works of either mM or RA.

      I cant speak for UnknownArchive who did the video but i believe he was talking just about the GUI (with RA and mM).not the apps themselves.This wouldn't be possible without retroarch so i highly doubt that what was meant Especially when you see the video where those "insults" where made.

      .The developer behind this, was not the video creator, He has had the permission/support from Squarepusher from what i am aware of.. I know for a fact the developer behind this hack has the up most respect for Sqaurepusher and the RetroArch Developers.

    25. STLcardsWS
      03-26-2013
      10:41 PM
      25

      Originally Posted by Dried paint
      He needs to word it better then.. He says mM looks like horse sh|t which is cool, thats his opinion on the looks of it.
      He says PS3 emulation was sh|t though then shows RA with fart sounds.
      I have no doubt the dev behind it has Squares support.. Square has always supported anyone who wants to help or make their own gui/loader.
      I actually think its great what the dev is doing but the video maker leaves a lot to be desired.
      It hardly shows anything of the loader itself.. 95% of the video is showing in game emulation 3% is saying how crap the other ways of loading roms are and then 2% is quick flashes of the XMB loader.

      STL, how does it go when youve got literally thousands of roms? XMB isnt the fastest at the best of times.

      Again great idea and project but I personally dont need any bling to load
      a rom. I'll stick to my horsesh|t loading straight from RA :D
      Personally i'm not going to make a big deal of a non-issue. I think its obvious what he was saying. Its obvious it his own opinions.

      Back to the app:
      It's for sure not for full romsets. here is quote from me (not here). "However this is not for someone who wants to put a full romset on the XMB. I did however manage to get over 250 roms PKGs installed with no slow down or issues"
      I had no slow down on an already crowded XMB. also there was no slowdown entering the "game" folder from mM or FTP. How many more i could of added, i don't know.. i wouldn't recommend to much more then that, which that may be alot in itself.

      **This is a great for when you want fast access to your personal favorites.

      **This is great when people use your system that is not familiar with homebrew apps such as mM and RA. (kids,family friends).

      ** Personally my XMB looks great with the addition of some Retro covers on it. (the 3d ones look great) Hopefully we can get the creation of some ICON1.PAM animated images. Which will really be a great thing for the XMB.

      Personally i feel the more that is brought to the XMB the better. i understand everyone has different taste there but i really like hacks like this and the newly released PS1toPS3 that does the same task, but with Ps1 games using Iris's method to boot the game. Ah, The joys of open source projects

    26. Isleofdoom
      03-26-2013
      10:41 PM
      26

      Load times will be a lot better in the sence you don't have to access Mm or Iris n this could be done with ps2 and ps3 games I beleave and would make things a lot harder to be detected aswel. But of course the more roms the slower it will become unless you have ISO support. I can just see Deank heading down this path now

    27. GregoryRasputin
      03-26-2013
      11:09 PM
      27

      Originally Posted by Dried paint
      I actually think its great what the dev is doing but the video maker leaves a lot to be desired.
      The video maker, has more decency and integrity in his little finger than you have in your entire body, at least he says what he feels in public, he doesn't do it behind private messages.

    28. Rautz
      03-27-2013
      12:13 AM
      28

      With the amount of roms I have I dont think I'll stop using the gui of retroarch(or Retro Loader...love it) since it has a page skip search button, useful, when scrolling through thousands of roms.
      This is pretty cool though, since I can just load my favorite few roms straight from XMB so has its usefulness and appeal to me. Thank god retroarch is a boss emulator or people would have nothing decent to work on top of.

    29. libretro
      03-27-2013
      01:23 AM
      29

      Hi Jennys / brakk3n. I came back to this forum specifically for you, because you just annoyed me too damn much.

      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      There's more then 6,000. About 20 times more.

      I agree that both RetroArch and MultiMan both lack GUI good front ends when it comes to starting emulated games. If you look at emulators on every console they exist on most do have horrid GUI systems; except per say XBOX1 and Wii emulators.
      Fancy GUIs are for little babies. Outside of the console scene, nobody gives a crap about them. Not even on Android/iOS/Blackberry do people give a crap about them - only people who want to look at hentai images of Chun-LI and Cammy on their TV set while they're browsing a ROM list (like the 'oh so great' GUI frontends seen in Final Burn Legends - yeah sorry Son, I have better things to do than do this childish crap OK?)

      And those emulators you think are 'so great' because of the stupid sodding GUI are crappy in ways that actually matter - like enforced frameskipping, ****ty audio-video sync (crackling sound is common on these 'great Xbox 1/Wii emus' with the 'great GUIs' because they quite honestly don't give a damn about the important stuff). I'd rather be delivering on the nuts and bolts that actually matter rather than going down this stupid 'my GUI is flashier than yours' path.

      Not like you would notice the crappiness of those slapdash emu ports though - those GUIs must be pulling the wool over your eyes quite successfully. Then again, remind me when you were ever in a position of authority to begin with where your opinion was the final word on anything (no, your crappy has-been news website doesn't count)

      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      Having them launched by their respective core would be best, using RetroArchs buggy ported cores would be the only viable option I could see.[
      I keep hearing you talk crap about these 'buggy ported RetroArch cores' - blahblah. Know what?

      PROVE IT. Prove to me just what is so 'buggy' about it. I want specific examples that can be verified.

      You have quite some nerve to talk crap about my project with no accomplishments to call your own. I think you'll be hard stressed to find a guy who pays as much attention to his ports (maintenance/quality-wise) than me.

      'Ported cores'? You think the dudes in the Xbox 1 and Wii scenes wrote their own emus? It's all 'ported' from PC as well. In fact, I did more substantial core alterations to SNES9x and VBA than a lot of those guys.

      Now I regret having fed the troll and giving him more attention than he probably deserves, but there it went.

      Anyways, back to the topic -

      I have no problems with this guy making his own derivative of RetroArch (it's basically just RetroArch executing a ROM straight from startup). Yeah yeah, I get the little vibe in the video saying 'emulators sucked before this - blahblah' - then again, that doesn't really bother me since I still know where it all came from and I honestly have better stuff to do than waste my time with 'eye candy GUIs' or 'hardcode XMB ROM packages' (not to mention it would be 'illegal' for me to distribute that) - that is so low down the ladder of priorities that it doesn't even matter to me.

      So it's good to see that there are people who are making their own custom versions of RetroArch now so that they can still have their way.

      Anyway - expect to see a new release soon with two new platform releases - Blackberry and iOS. PS3 will also have some significant upgrades.

    30. Rautz
      03-27-2013
      01:46 AM
      30

      Originally Posted by libretro
      Anyway - expect to see a new release soon with two new platform releases - Blackberry and iOS. PS3 will also have some significant upgrades.
      Woohoo! Thanks in advance, cant wait

    31. ttesterzz
      03-27-2013
      02:17 AM
      31

      I have a sudden urge to play Super Mario World now >.<

    32. SuperDre
      03-27-2013
      04:17 AM
      32

      So as I understand it's just like the dosbox ports, it's the original game including the application in one package, which means if you have 100's of games you also have 100 times the same application.. Seems like a big waste of space..
      But it should be possible to install the emulator and then have a 'shortcut' start the game directly from the XMB (which is how the PS2 games are started I guess).. But maybe that's the way they do this..
      In all I look forward to testing it out..

    33. MatrixOne
      03-27-2013
      05:21 AM
      33

      Originally Posted by SuperDre
      So as I understand it's just like the dosbox ports, it's the original game including the application in one package, which means if you have 100's of games you also have 100 times the same application.. Seems like a big waste of space..
      But it should be possible to install the emulator and then have a 'shortcut' start the game directly from the XMB (which is how the PS2 games are started I guess).. But maybe that's the way they do this..
      In all I look forward to testing it out..
      yes but you have to modify some system files like VSH.self and many RCO to add this.

      but is posible, the only think is how will make this work?

    34. xxmcvapourxx
      03-27-2013
      05:35 AM
      34

      Originally Posted by Simonbuck
      no its Rogero 4.30 v2.07, you were correct on your first assumption.
      whoop's let it slip i mean 2.05 he he
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by MatrixOne
      yes but you have to modify some system files like VSH.self and many RCO to add this.

      but is posible, the only think is how will make this work?
      Yes/no more to it but it work's perfect from xmb run's nice and smooth.

    35. GregoryRasputin
      03-27-2013
      06:04 AM
      35

      Originally Posted by libretro
      Yeah yeah, I get the little vibe in the video saying 'emulators sucked before this - blahblah' - then again, that doesn't really bother me since I still know where it all came from and I honestly have better stuff to do than waste my time with 'eye candy GUIs' or 'hardcode XMB ROM packages' (not to mention it would be 'illegal' for me to distribute that) - that is so low down the ladder of priorities that it doesn't even matter to me.
      So this should be a sign for all the people being butt hurt over the video, if the dev behind the app doesn't get upset, why should you.

      We all know that RetroArch is the Only updated Emulator on the PS3, it is also possibly the emulator that is cared for most by its developers, the video was a tongue in cheek approach of humour.

    36. vaalir
      03-27-2013
      07:45 AM
      36

      im really looking forward to this! aaah, looking forward to many hours of categorizing retro games on my xmb <3

      SNES RPG
      SNES Fighters
      NES Platformer
      etc...

      and [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION]

      you'r releasing retroarch for IOS also? REALLY?? dude!!!
      now you HAVE to make it work with iCade! :P my ipad looking forward to that release.

      and to the guy developing this PC app, thanks thanks thanks and thanks!

    37. foobachi
      03-27-2013
      09:10 AM
      37

      I honestly don't understand how anyone in here can say Multiman is "ugly" or that the gui is bad. The XMMB display mode is an EXACT REPLICA of the Sony XMB, which is what this video's method of launching games uses. They look EXACTLY the same. Except instead of having 6000 redundant copies of Retroarch in your "game" folder on your internal hard drive, one copy installed for each rom individually, you have one app that does it all.

      The ability to install these on the XMB is great. But it's not really any different than using Multiman as your frontend, except that you don't have to install thousands of redundant copies of retroarch.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by libretro
      Fancy GUIs are for little babies. Outside of the console scene, nobody gives a crap about them. Not even on Android/iOS/Blackberry do people give a crap about them - only people who want to look at hentai images of Chun-LI and Cammy on their TV set while they're browsing a ROM list (like the 'oh so great' GUI frontends seen in Final Burn Legends - yeah sorry Son, I have better things to do than do this childish crap OK?)

      And those emulators you think are 'so great' because of the stupid sodding GUI are crappy in ways that actually matter - like enforced frameskipping, ****ty audio-video sync (crackling sound is common on these 'great Xbox 1/Wii emus' with the 'great GUIs' because they quite honestly don't give a damn about the important stuff). I'd rather be delivering on the nuts and bolts that actually matter rather than going down this stupid 'my GUI is flashier than yours' path.

      Not like you would notice the crappiness of those slapdash emu ports though - those GUIs must be pulling the wool over your eyes quite successfully. Then again, remind me when you were ever in a position of authority to begin with where your opinion was the final word on anything (no, your crappy has-been news website doesn't count)



      I keep hearing you talk crap about these 'buggy ported RetroArch cores' - blahblah. Know what?

      PROVE IT. Prove to me just what is so 'buggy' about it. I want specific examples that can be verified.

      You have quite some nerve to talk crap about my project with no accomplishments to call your own. I think you'll be hard stressed to find a guy who pays as much attention to his ports (maintenance/quality-wise) than me.

      'Ported cores'? You think the dudes in the Xbox 1 and Wii scenes wrote their own emus? It's all 'ported' from PC as well. In fact, I did more substantial core alterations to SNES9x and VBA than a lot of those guys.

      Now I regret having fed the troll and giving him more attention than he probably deserves, but there it went.

      Anyways, back to the topic -

      I have no problems with this guy making his own derivative of RetroArch (it's basically just RetroArch executing a ROM straight from startup). Yeah yeah, I get the little vibe in the video saying 'emulators sucked before this - blahblah' - then again, that doesn't really bother me since I still know where it all came from and I honestly have better stuff to do than waste my time with 'eye candy GUIs' or 'hardcode XMB ROM packages' (not to mention it would be 'illegal' for me to distribute that) - that is so low down the ladder of priorities that it doesn't even matter to me.

      So it's good to see that there are people who are making their own custom versions of RetroArch now so that they can still have their way.

      Anyway - expect to see a new release soon with two new platform releases - Blackberry and iOS. PS3 will also have some significant upgrades.
      Last time I checked - Retroarch is nothing but a GUI, (and a really ugly one at that) for launching several previously existing emulator cores that you didn't actually write. It's like M.E.S.S. for consoles and crappy android phones.

    38. libretro
      03-27-2013
      09:46 AM
      38

      Originally Posted by foobachi
      Last time I checked - Retroarch is nothing but a GUI, (and a really ugly one at that) for launching several previously existing emulator cores that you didn't actually write.
      Last time I checked - you obviously don't know anything about the actual programming behind it or else you wouldn't call it a 'just a GUI' (seriously).

      An API is about far more than 'just a GUI'. I work together with the actual emulator authors to port the emulators to the API and then push all changes upstream as much as possible so that everyone can benefit from it.

      Please kindly keep your yap firmly shut if all that comes from it is ill-informed garbage like this. Be glad with what you got - last time I checked, RetroArch is the only game in town on nearly all consoles out right now - and it does it far better than anything else out there as well if what you care about is not stupid kindergarten fancypants GUIs but actual performance and functionality.

      The GUI is low profile for a reason - I don't cater to braindead morons that want a 'fancy GUI'. I have better things to do than try to satisfy your coke-adled addiction to 'fancy pictures'.

      It's like M.E.S.S. for consoles and crappy android phones.
      M.E.S.S.'s cores are homespun bubba, and they're also slow as hell since they don't care about performance.

      So at least get your analogies straight if you're going to insert your foot into your mouth - If it were like M.E.S.S., it would run like **** on all those consoles and 'crappy Android phones' and would never, ever get better. But then again, since your vocabulary begins and ends with 'GUI', that is probably a tough call (for you to get ANYTHING right, that is).

      This reminds me why I stayed off console scene forums for so long - too many dip s h i t s. Which reminds me - bye again.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by vaalir

      you'r releasing retroarch for IOS also? REALLY?? dude!!!
      now you HAVE to make it work with iCade! :P my ipad looking forward to that release.
      Yes, the next release will be the iOS/Blackberry release. Most of the cores are already up and running - notaz is in the process of making sure PCSX ReARMed works on iOS as well (have to battle with a stone-age assembler version there).

      And RetroArch iOS runs way better than RetroArch Android. It's really a great port if I do say so myself.

      Too bad we can't have more decent people like you on these boards (unlike the two former d o u c h e bags I had to address), or I'd stay around longer on here.

    39. LoboGuara
      03-27-2013
      09:58 AM
      39

      Originally Posted by foobachi
      Last time I checked - Retroarch is nothing but a GUI, (and a really ugly one at that) for launching several previously existing emulator cores that you didn't actually write. It's like M.E.S.S. for consoles and crappy android phones.

      I thought exactly the same when I read.

      I would describe Retroarch as "The best frontend for libretro cores". The official description is a bit confusing...

      Description

      RetroArch is a multi-system emulator for Linux, Windows, Mac OS X, *BSD, PS3, XBox360, Wii, Android. It is formerly known as SSNES.
      Its design and background is quite different than most other emulators as RetroArch does not implement an emulation core itself. RetroArch talks to libretro, a generic emulator core API. This means that RetroArch is core agnostic, and it does not care which emulator core is running.

      Source

    40. ocam
      03-27-2013
      10:06 AM
      40

      Originally Posted by libretro
      And RetroArch iOS runs way better than RetroArch Android. It's really a great port if I do say so myself.
      I'm using it daily on my i9000. not a single problem until today, no freeze, no lags, nothing...retroarch on android rocks

    41. libretro
      03-27-2013
      10:07 AM
      41

      Originally Posted by LoboGuara
      I thought exactly the same when I read.

      I would describe Retroarch as "The best frontend for libretro cores". The official description is a bit confusing...
      It is not even really a 'multi-emulator' at this point - it already is far more than that. I have three game ports right now (NX Engine - Cave Story, Doom and Quake) and there will be more game ports like that in the future as well.

      It's really an API for games / emulators with a frontend that runs those programs on any console/mobile/PC you'd like. I know it is without exaggeration when I say nothing like this has ever been done before on this scale, and it likely won't ever be again. So people can hate and diss all they want - I know I'm onto something at this point.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by ocam
      I'm using it daily on my i9000. not a single problem until today, no freeze, no lags, nothing...retroarch on android rocks
      Good to hear that performance is fine for some people. I get a lot of reports by people saying they have audio stuttering and issues like that - and there doesn't seem to be an awful lot I can do other than direct them to the usual thread where I run down the list of issues it possibly could be.

      With iOS so far you don't have any of these performance issues. The main problem is laggy video/audio on Android combined with the slowness of the Java VM (and its garbage collector). The reason iOS runs just fine by comparison is because it has a great low-latency audio API (CoreAudio - from OSX) and because it's all native code (Obj-C) unlike disastrous Java apps that implement native code through some hack like JNI (and shared libraries).

      Too bad Apple doesn't like emulators and has this restrictive App Store - otherwise this would have been the perfect mobile OS for it. As it is, we'll have to go with Cydia (and unlike the others out there - RetroArch will be totally free - no strings attached - as usual).

    42. foobachi
      03-27-2013
      10:12 AM
      42

      So, you're entitled to opinions, but no one else is? Yeah, that seems fair. LOL.

      I like Retroarch. I use it. I prefer to use it from within Multiman, because it has Cover support. Which is essentially the only thing the RetroXMB this thread is about adds. I'm not planning on using the RetroXMB implementation because it just adds a ton of cluttered redundancy to the XMB.

      The API you put together is great. I'm not trying to discount your work here. Being able to easliy port pre existing emus to your API is a fantastic innovation. But since you've decided to voice your opinions rather strongly, you might want to realize that not everyone agrees with you all the time about front ends and guis, and not everyone feels like they need to kiss your ass.

      RetroArch is "the only game in town" right now because most of these emulators were already ported to the PS3 and working - some by you (thank you) and some by other coders. To be honest, as much as I can respect the work you've done for the API of Retroarch - it is a monumental task, I really have little desire to have a big, honking multicore emulator with a clumsy core changing mechanism. I like separate apps for separate purposes. Of all the many cores in Retroarch, I really only care about 2 or 3 of them. There's a bunch of systems being emulated in there that I just couldn't give a rats ass about. But yes - I respect the work you've put into it.

      My only issue with it is that the PS3 port seems to get the least love and least support and updates for the PS3 come last (if at all) to a bunch of ports for phones and handhelds that have a much smaller install base.

    43. libretro
      03-27-2013
      10:20 AM
      43

      Originally Posted by foobachi
      So, you're entitled to opinions, but no one else is? Yeah, that seems fair. LOL.
      You're entitled to opinions alright. But to call it a 'GUI' is to misunderstand a few basic things about what it is.

      I like Retroarch. I use it. I prefer to use it from within Multiman, because it has Cover support. Which is essentially the only thing the RetroXMB this thread is about adds. I'm not planning on using the RetroXMB implementation because it just adds a ton of cluttered redundancy to the XMB.
      Umm, judging from what I saw in that RetroXMB video - the only thing this is is a bunch of XMB PKGs that just install an XMB icon together with a background picture. When you start it up - it is just RetroArch with a bunch of arguments passed so that it directly boots the ROM.

      That's all it is. It doesn't have a 'GUI' or anything - it's just RetroArch with args passed.

      If this is what people want then good - seems launching directly from XMB is something people want. It's not something I can cater to as it would be totally unmaintainable so if people want it then we have to have derivatives/spinoffs like this.

      My only issue with it is that the PS3 port seems to get the least love and least support and updates for the PS3 come last (if at all) to a bunch of ports for phones and handhelds that have a much smaller install base.
      This is not true - unlike a lot of other devs, I have always went the distance to ensure that the PS3 port keeps up with all the other ports. I have certainly never abandoned the platform like so many others have at this point. I was there from Day One and still am.

      The PS3 port so far is still the best port out of all RetroArch ports and the next version (0.9.9) will have an improved GL driver that will decrease video and input latency significantly which should be noticeable in FBA. The PS3 port has better multi-pass shader features than the 360 version and it has the edge in video speed as well.

    44. foobachi
      03-27-2013
      10:40 AM
      44

      Originally Posted by libretro
      The PS3 port so far is still the best port out of all RetroArch ports and the next version (0.9.9) will have an improved GL driver that will decrease video and input latency significantly which should be noticeable in FBA. The PS3 port has better multi-pass shader features than the 360 version and it has the edge in video speed as well.
      This is great to hear. Unfortunately sometimes the way PS3 news is distributed on here, and the other scene sites is lackluster to say the least. Things get glossed over or left out entirely. I've looked at the libretro forum a bit to see what's happening with the PS3 port, and the bulk of the posting there is about android and linux ports. I see talk about Retroarch revision numbers being posted that haven't actually been released for the PS3.

      Again - I do completely respect your work. It just seems sometimes like you have your hands in so many pies, it's hard to follow where it's all going and you seem pretty spread thin. I'd hate to see you get burnt out on all this trying to do too many things for too many different sub-scenes.

      (and I'm a greedy bastard who only cares about the PS3 port, hehe.)

    45. vaalir
      03-27-2013
      10:41 AM
      45

      i also believe you are onto something with this project. people can hate all they want, because people love complaining..

      i'll have a tab open on your homepage so i can grab the IOS port as soon as its released.

      have some decency folks. thank the retro team for their work.

    46. GregoryRasputin
      03-27-2013
      11:13 AM
      46

      Originally Posted by vaalir
      i also believe you are onto something with this project. people can hate all they want, because people love complaining..

      i'll have a tab open on your homepage so i can grab the IOS port as soon as its released.

      have some decency folks. thank the retro team for their work.
      You could always follow libretro on Twitter.

    47. vaalir
      03-27-2013
      11:16 AM
      47

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      You could always follow libretro on Twitter.
      whats twitter?? joking ofc. but i STILL havent gotten into twitter. gotta just keep a tab open i think... besides, i love lurking in forums :P

      on topic:
      eagerly awaiting this release, as my kid and wife is complete morons when it comes to anything "tech" related. but they like retro games.

    48. brakk3n
      03-27-2013
      01:50 PM
      48

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      In regards to the Core being in the pkg. Yes the core will be with the PKG. its does add some size to the PKG, but most cores are very small.
      What about those 30,000+ cases of ROM images that very from 8Kbit to 4Mbit? What about when newer versions of the cores are released? It doesn't seem practical to include them in the pkg files, esp if you are going to be using a lot of them and with older systems that have thus mentioned file sizes.

    49. STLcardsWS
      03-27-2013
      07:12 PM
      49

      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      What about those 30,000+ cases of ROM images that very from 8Kbit to 4Mbit? What about when newer versions of the cores are released? It doesn't seem practical to include them in the pkg files, esp if you are going to be using a lot of them and with older systems that have thus mentioned file sizes.
      Reading through this thread there is alot of assumptions.
      This is a teaser not all details have been released yet. Some of the assumptions are wrong. Some are valid.

      I think the first mistake people seem to make is they think they can add many roms and even full romsets to the XMB. This was developer for putting a small to moderate amount of roms on the XMB

      Personally i tried 250 test PKGs with not one slow down or issue. However personally i will have around 50ish on a normal basis. maybe more, maybe less.

      Inside the PKG is not a full installation of RetroArch. Its just the eboot and core. Along with the very small shader folder. The cores are very small by themselves. 1.5-2 MB and i believe FBA is 5mb.

      The 250 pkg i had i think I added 600 MB of size to the HDD.. which for 250 PKG is not alot.

      The updating of cores is something i discussed many times with the developer behind this. In order to make it as noob proof as possible the developer decided to included the core in the PKG via the tool that will create the PKG. However know that the mod doesn't require the core to be in the PKG. When released i may write a TuT in how to make your PKG without the core inside, but with a central folder.

      With this being for more of favorite Roms and not full Romset. The space is not an issue at all. Just would make updating easier. However updating is not to difficult i have done it a few times when needed. All the Title IDs will have the RX prefix so that will be easier to locate in games folder via FTP or a File Manager.
      Also note the regular unmodified cores of RA will not work. Source will be released. So future updates will have to be from the developer of RetroXMB or another person who picks up the source.

    50. vaalir
      03-27-2013
      07:52 PM
      50

      when this is released, i totally wanna see a crazy person have full romsets of at least 5 consoles!

      and i dont think you would need to update that often, seeing as RA is quite efficient for many retro consoles now. i would assume that you would never need to update for instance SNES\NES\GBA.

      good to hear about the package sizes. i was hoping for something like less than 5MB for a SNES game. thats a valid price to pay.

    51. brakk3n
      03-27-2013
      09:45 PM
      51

      [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] / [MENTION=110733]squarepusher[/MENTION] / etc ... - I'm sorry I'm not "elite" enough to be able to have my own opinion of your emulator ports. Jeezbus, a pure example of a "I'm better then you all control freak developer". Isn't that looked down on around these here parts?

      Originally Posted by libretro
      Then again, remind me when you were ever in a position of authority to begin with where your opinion was the final word on anything
      Originally Posted by libretro
      (no, your crappy has-been news website doesn't count)
      Originally Posted by libretro
      You have quite some nerve to talk crap about my project with no accomplishments to call your own.
      *yawn*

      [to viewers: read the entire thread - you'll see.]

    52. foobachi
      03-27-2013
      10:23 PM
      52

      Not for nothing, but the whole "you can't have a negative opinion of my project unless you're a popular scene coder too!" argument is really stupid. I don't have to be a famous pop singer to come to the opinion that Britney Spears sucks, and I don't have to be a pro basketballer to think LeBron James is overrated. Just because something is popular doesn't make it great. Just look at Nintendo. Overrated, kidsy, cartoon games with lame, ugly pastel colored flickery graphics and tons of shovelware.

    53. brakk3n
      03-28-2013
      12:03 AM
      53

      Originally Posted by foobachi
      Not for nothing, but the whole "you can't have a negative opinion of my project unless you're a popular scene
      Some developers think they can dictate anything to others and the end user has no right to his or her own opinion; unless it's complete arse kissing. Sort of a "I can program something" God Complex. Most sceners hate these kind of developers due to various reasons; especially on this site.

      He might not of hidden away DEX or LVLx infoz, but he's just an emulator porter, but take in mind he shares the same values and outlook of how he's better then everyone else just as those others I mentioned did or still do. However, I will forgive him for the constant harassment and trolling across the scene sites if he asks for it. It's not that big of a deal.
      Originally Posted by foobachi
      Just look at Nintendo. Overrated, kidsy, cartoon games with lame, flickers graphics and tons of shovelware.
      Let me rephrase that one ...

      Just look at current Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft consoles. Full of overrated games with lame graphics and 99% of it is shovelware.

    54. libretro
      03-28-2013
      12:05 AM
      54

      I might consider including some kind of alternative EBOOT that can be manually configured through a config file to boot up whatever ROM you want and with whatever core you want. That could basically have the same end result as this RetroXMB thing.

    55. SuperDre
      03-28-2013
      03:37 AM
      55

      Originally Posted by libretro
      I might consider including some kind of alternative EBOOT that can be manually configured through a config file to boot up whatever ROM you want and with whatever core you want. That could basically have the same end result as this RetroXMB thing.
      Which in the end is just like a frontend

      I certainly like the idea of being able to run games directly from the XMB, with this retroxmb you at least have that choice (there are enough people who only care about few roms (10 or something like that), and for them it's an awesome solution..
      for me, just wanting all my roms in a folder and not having to worry about having to make a package for every one, I'll stay at using a frontend..

      Keep up the great work..

    56. libretro
      03-28-2013
      08:03 AM
      56

      Originally Posted by SuperDre
      Which in the end is just like a frontend

      I certainly like the idea of being able to run games directly from the XMB, with this retroxmb you at least have that choice (there are enough people who only care about few roms (10 or something like that), and for them it's an awesome solution..
      for me, just wanting all my roms in a folder and not having to worry about having to make a package for every one, I'll stay at using a frontend..

      Keep up the great work..
      But there is no frontend to be seen in that video other than just the XMB. Where do you guys all see this GUI or 'Frontend' in the video?

      He basically is doing exactly that - making a package for every ROM he wants to directly launch from the XMB.

    57. vaalir
      03-28-2013
      10:08 AM
      57

      Originally Posted by libretro
      But there is no frontend to be seen in that video other than just the XMB. Where do you guys all see this GUI or 'Frontend' in the video?

      He basically is doing exactly that - making a package for every ROM he wants to directly launch from the XMB.
      methinks many people really dont know what a front-end is :P

    58. DEREKTROTTER
      03-28-2013
      11:12 AM
      58

      was this released yet? (retro to pkg).
      would be great having final fantasy 1-13 all bootable from XMB.

      only thing missing then is n64 emulation.

    59. vaalir
      03-28-2013
      01:53 PM
      59

      Originally Posted by DEREKTROTTER
      was this released yet? (retro to pkg).
      would be great having final fantasy 1-13 all bootable from XMB.

      only thing missing then is n64 emulation.
      how do you boot ps2\ps3 games from xmb? like, can you make packages?

    60. DEREKTROTTER
      03-28-2013
      01:58 PM
      60

      Originally Posted by vaalir
      how do you boot ps2\ps3 games from xmb? like, can you make packages?
      yes, you package them:
      PS2: http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=53694
      PS3: http://www.ps3hax.net/2013/02/aldost...ols-collection

      the ps3 ones arent actually packaged games, more like shortcuts to the game locations. Saves loading up multiman

    61. foobachi
      03-28-2013
      04:03 PM
      61

      Originally Posted by DEREKTROTTER
      was this released yet? (retro to pkg).
      would be great having final fantasy 1-13 all bootable from XMB.

      only thing missing then is n64 emulation.
      and 3DO emulation.
      and Sega 32x emulation
      and Sega Saturn Emulation.
      and Dreamcast Emulation.
      and Atari 7800 Emulation.
      and Atari 5200 Emulation.
      and Intellivision Emulation
      and CD-I emulation
      and PSP Iso/Homebrew booting
      and a whole lot of others that I'm forgetting right now.

    62. LoboGuara
      03-28-2013
      04:18 PM
      62

      ^^ and MSX emulation

    63. brakk3n
      03-28-2013
      06:53 PM
      63

      Originally Posted by vaalir
      methinks many people really dont know what a front-end is :P
      Indeed. Front Ends launch a program with a string of values and where very popular for emulators back when the end-user system ran DOS or earlier versions of Windows (3.11, 95) where most emulators had no native GUI and required commands to be passed to it.

      GUI control the application in question, allowing graphic interaction with it and are very important. Take for example iOS, Android (per mentioned as they don't need a GUI), Windows, OS-X ... The person attacking me on this thread seems to think there's no need for a GUI. So we should all use GP to access only the CLI in Windows or remove all GUI elements from a KDE/GNOME Linux distros. To those who didn't understand the last sentence it seems the troll who attacks again thinks all those devices I mentioned don't need a GUI; imagine running your cellphone from a command line interface (all of the time)?
      Originally Posted by libretro
      Fancy GUIs are for little babies. Outside of the console scene, nobody gives a crap about them. Not even on Android/iOS/Blackberry do people give a crap about them
      Aldostools is mostly a Front-End for applications just like that PKG Resinger, but MultiMan, the PS3OS and various applications and emulators mostly have a form of a GUI. Some are tasteless and some aren't. Though, I could really care less if RetroArchs GUI bites. I just wanted to make a point about the differences the need for Front Ends and GUI systems.

      Launching the ROM images from the XMB is more like a what a Front End does, but very limited with no on-screen interface (that we know of) other then an entry in the XMB that you can launch. Thus, there is no real Front End nor GUI present as the XMB does most of the work (displaying & launching the PKG).

      PC emulators even after all these years still have Front-Ends which are like the "Cover Modes" in Wiiflow/mM which display box art, cd/dvd/bd-rom's, extended game information, etc ... Even though most PC emulators have their own GUI they are not that great so there is still a need for "eye-candy" for a lack of a better word. Sure, it's more important that your ported emulators actually work (which is not the case 100% of the time for RetroArch), but when creating a GUI especially for console based systems you need to be able to deliver on that "eye-candy" otherwise you may have people who are into GUI systems say yours suck or if the initial ports are bugged to sh.t then people may mention this also; but there's no need to go attack and follow the same person from site to site slandering them just because they dislike what you've made and frankly isn't scared to say so.

      I will not be silenced by some deranged developer.

    64. libretro
      03-28-2013
      09:04 PM
      64

      Childish and futile attempts at stirring up fights aside, care to mention any of these bugs you keep referencing but never actually explain what they are?

    65. foobachi
      03-28-2013
      09:50 PM
      65

      Square is definitely a very knowledgable and dedicated coder, and his work is impressive and enjoyed by many users.

      But yeah - I've seen him be abusive, abrasive, and flat out insulting to people at times, sometimes for no reason at all. I've seen several times where someone reports a bug, and instead of checking it to verify it, he'll just lash out at the bug reporter and accuse them of lying, which causes all his supporters on thst forum to gang up on the person who only wanted to relay a bug report.

      I've also personally had him tell me he had no interest in porting an emulator for the Atari 7800 into Retroarch because he claimed he "wasn't interested in all that old crap from before the C-64." Which is kind of funny because the 7800 was released in 1987, and the C-64 was released in 1983.

      I think maybe he's just a little high-strung because of all the hours he spends coding and all the silly requests he gets for things like an N64 emu on the PS3 which will likely never happen because of the lack of a proper dynamic recompiler. Maybe he should take such silliness as flattery and feel good about his recognition in the scene, rather than always trying to be right and shouting people down.

    66. brakk3n
      03-28-2013
      09:52 PM
      66

      Originally Posted by Dried paint
      [MENTION=260658]brakk3n[/MENTION] are you saying from your own experience that RetroArch doesnt work 100%?
      As far as I know youve never actually had a PS3 capable of running CFW. Well 3k3y may have given you one.. not sure if you received it on 355 or already updated for the ODDE.
      Admittedly Ive only been using emulators for 16+ yrs so I likely know nothing compared to you, I also haven't gone to the effort of trying every single rom on RA.
      "As far as I know" - exactly.

      Who would? and no do you not.

      Originally Posted by Dried paint
      But roms that had been problematic for me on the emus pc mother version work flawlessly for me now. Square asked and I'd also like some examples of where RA doesn't work flawlessly.
      Would you like examples of specific ROMS that do not work or times when entire specific CORES did not work? :P

      Specific romsets or single roms that may or may not have been problematic under the original PC may or may not be problematic under RetroArch due to tweaks by the authors. I have no interest in testing for them, but have two eyes and can read accounts from others. Although, compatibility was never an issue it was the lack of stability and quick dirty ports - though, that might of gotten better by now as I have no need to turn my PS3 into an emulator box - I already have two of those.

      Originally Posted by Dried paint
      As far as I can see both Square and themaister have picked up and revitalized a flailing retro emulation scene. I personally havent been this excited by retro emulation for 8-10yrs. Xbox excited me with their extremely flashy guis, info, ingame music and movies in the gui.
      Maybe that is true on the PS3; the PC emulation scene has never had a dull moment. These cores are all ports of various PC emulators; respectively.

      Originally Posted by Dried paint
      That was cool but they spent their time on making a direct port and not improving the playing experience at all.. so we were left with stunning looking emulators with less than stunning gaming experience.
      Every emulator I've ever used works on compatibility with the most popular titles first and leaves the problematic one for later. The XBOX1 emulators, the ones with the impressive GUI and art/map/info packs were based on emulators from that time and are not currently being updated. So the compatibility reflects on that time period whereas RetroArch is build using ported emulators (that they call "cores") based on today's compatibility, plus some tweaks here and there to get some games working. I was comparing the GUI experience (which I did almost a year ago - ****pusher is still having a hard-on over it) and not the compatibility as that would be unrealistic. The latest updates to the XBOX1 emulators have only include the support for "Resurrection Xtras" with little to no changes to the emulators, but that was years ago.

      One might also note RetroArch has been ported to the original XBOX, though since personally I don't like it's interface I'll stick with the current emulators.

      Originally Posted by Dried paint
      Thanks to Square and maister I now can play emulators on my HD TV without it looking like dog spew, from what Ive been able to tell perfect speed without the need for frameskipping. They have given me that level of emulation on my PS3, 360, Xbox1, pc, phone and most excitingly for me, my Android TV box. From my point of view, flashy guis and front ends only serve collectors who dont play games but like to show their mates that including roms they have 12000 games on their ps3.
      I personally talk to Square quite often and find him to be a really nice & helpful guy. I'm just an enduser, I've asked him some retarded questions and he has never spoken down or aggressively to me.
      I can easily do that and more using my HTPC; emulation on the PS3 is not something that I really would need to use. Even PS2 Classics sucks compared to PCSX2 and you can't use your own Wiimote + accessories to play near perfect emulated GC/Wii games on your PS3 either. However, I still use the XBOX1 for the older consoles, at 720p with no frame skipping and don't care about the compatibility issues because none of the games I play are affected by them.

      There I entertained you with remarks regarding your statement, but none of this content has little to do with the subject matter I'm addressing which is [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] signed up solely on his own admission to harass and slander me, thereby breaking various rules including that infamous "derailed" one and creating another account after throwing a hissy fit on his own site saying he'd never return here because of [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] and others.

      I stand by my original statement and what I just stated. I have no desire to get into an argument about things I could really care less about. AKA - I've said all I need to say to you.

      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by libretro
      Childish and futile attempts at stirring up fights aside, care to mention any of these bugs you keep referencing but never actually explain what they are?
      LOL, who signed up with the sole intent on harassing me with you're "You have no word in anything because I am God" attitude plus "Childish and futile attempts at stirring up fights"? What a load of sh.t. Also, this is not the first time you've trolled me. Get over yourself.

      As for your question, sure, I'll start with #1 - that thing you call a brain inside your head.

      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by foobachi
      I think maybe he's just a little high-strung because of all the hours he spends coding and all the silly requests he gets for things like an N64 emu on the PS3 which will likely never happen because of the lack of a proper dynamic recompiler. Maybe he should take such silliness as flattery and feel good about his recognition in the scene, rather than always trying to be right and shouting people down.
      That's a personality trait and I doubt it was caused at any time during his involvement during the scene. Having an inflated ego is one thing, but to put down others simply because you believe you are better then most of the scene due to the fact you created a front end (calling it an API) for ports of emulators really shows what kind of scum he can be. Plus, he seems to have joined the "I hate brakk3n" fan club. I'm still signing up more members; all you need to do is follow me around (troll) and hate on me. As a side bonus you can then do a 180 and claim I'm the one starting crap. Oh, the irony!

    67. STLcardsWS
      03-28-2013
      11:49 PM
      67

      [MENTION=260658]brakk3n[/MENTION]

      what is your current setup? on your PS3?

      When is the last time you installed RetroArch on a ps3?

      How many of these issue have you seen YOURSELF?

      WHAT ARE THE ISSUES? lol

      I'm addressing which is [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] signed up solely on his own admission to harass and slander me
      also let me correct you on something Sqaurepusher didn't create his libretro account for you. take a look at his join date lol
      Join Date: Oct 2012

      He came in this thread to address you but didn't create the account just for you

    68. RogueSpear
      03-29-2013
      12:25 AM
      68

      Originally Posted by STLcardsWS
      [MENTION=260658]brakk3n[/MENTION]

      what is your current setup? on your PS3?

      When is the last time you installed RetroArch on a ps3?

      How many of these issue have you seen YOURSELF?

      WHAT ARE THE ISSUES? lol



      also let me correct you on something Sqaurepusher didn't create his libretro account for you. take a look at his join date lol
      Join Date: Oct 2012

      He came in this thread to address you but didn't create the account just for you
      Talk about dodging the bullet LOL - to a certain shroomie here who is complaining about nonexistent "issues" - the way I see it [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] - I don't he has issues with the emulator but rather with you as a person (illud est: he's just acting like a butthurt weiner)

      Oh and to those who complain about the GUI: ULAUNCHELF MOTHERFAKKA - IS THAT FANCYPANTS ENUFF 4 YA?

    69. brakk3n
      03-29-2013
      12:34 AM
      69

      [MENTION=133671]STLcardsWS[/MENTION] - You're right. He didn't create a new account, my bad, but ...

      Originally Posted by libretro
      Hi Jennys / brakk3n. I came back to this forum specifically for you, because you just annoyed me too damn much.
      The rest was accurate Additionally, my current video gaming setup is none of your business Mr. Middle Schooler I need the last word in.

      [MENTION=269276]RogueSpear[/MENTION] - As for not providing a name of any particular issue I'm doing so because there's this thing called Google. I am not going to be intentionally side tracked from the original person attacking me for some sole reason of justification. People who shove a point down your face, then go side tracking it with stupid questions are poor at arguments. It's the same as derailing a thread; instead it's derailing an argument and I for one will not fall into this type of crap. I've said what I've needed to say.

      Just because I won't provide a name of a single BUG doesn't change the fact he came back to harass me, like he has on other forums, claim he's superiority over anyone who hasn't programmed something as good as himself, threw me the "I'm a Developer so you have no say in the matter" hi-all-mighty bullcrap developer attitude that people hate and now has to try to go off of that shows he's frakking deranged developer. So no, I won't list a damn bug because it has nothing to do with the way he treats me and countless others.

      If I linked you to a bug report would that change any of that? Nope. Notta. Just idiots or people on the anti-brakk3n bandwagon fall for such short sided pre-school argument tactics.

      Want bug reports go to Google. I'm not your lap hound.

    70. hellsing9
      03-29-2013
      01:00 AM
      70

      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      "As far as I know" - exactly.

      Who would? and no do you not.



      Would you like examples of specific ROMS that do not work or times when entire specific CORES did not work? :P

      Specific romsets or single roms that may or may not have been problematic under the original PC may or may not be problematic under RetroArch due to tweaks by the authors. I have no interest in testing for them, but have two eyes and can read accounts from others. Although, compatibility was never an issue it was the lack of stability and quick dirty ports - though, that might of gotten better by now as I have no need to turn my PS3 into an emulator box - I already have two of those.



      Maybe that is true on the PS3; the PC emulation scene has never had a dull moment. These cores are all ports of various PC emulators; respectively.



      Every emulator I've ever used works on compatibility with the most popular titles first and leaves the problematic one for later. The XBOX1 emulators, the ones with the impressive GUI and art/map/info packs were based on emulators from that time and are not currently being updated. So the compatibility reflects on that time period whereas RetroArch is build using ported emulators (that they call "cores") based on today's compatibility, plus some tweaks here and there to get some games working. I was comparing the GUI experience (which I did almost a year ago - ****pusher is still having a hard-on over it) and not the compatibility as that would be unrealistic. The latest updates to the XBOX1 emulators have only include the support for "Resurrection Xtras" with little to no changes to the emulators, but that was years ago.

      One might also note RetroArch has been ported to the original XBOX, though since personally I don't like it's interface I'll stick with the current emulators.



      I can easily do that and more using my HTPC; emulation on the PS3 is not something that I really would need to use. Even PS2 Classics sucks compared to PCSX2 and you can't use your own Wiimote + accessories to play near perfect emulated GC/Wii games on your PS3 either. However, I still use the XBOX1 for the older consoles, at 720p with no frame skipping and don't care about the compatibility issues because none of the games I play are affected by them.

      There I entertained you with remarks regarding your statement, but none of this content has little to do with the subject matter I'm addressing which is [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] signed up solely on his own admission to harass and slander me, thereby breaking various rules including that infamous "derailed" one and creating another account after throwing a hissy fit on his own site saying he'd never return here because of [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] and others.
      LOL i remember even gravoxy jumped to my neck but well..
      Happens (sadly) but i will save my words to avoid future problems on this matter.

    71. RogueSpear
      03-29-2013
      01:05 AM
      71

      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      [MENTION=133671]STLcardsWS[/MENTION] - You're right. He didn't create a new account, my bad, but ...


      The rest was accurate Additionally, my current video gaming setup is none of your business.

      [MENTION=269276]RogueSpear[/MENTION] - As for not providing a name of any particular issue I'm doing so because there's this thing called Google. I am not going to be intentionally side tracked from the original person attacking me for some sole reason of justification. People who shove a point down your face, then go side tracking it with stupid questions are poor at arguments. It's the same as derailing a thread; instead it's derailing an argument and I for one will not fall into this type of crap. I've said what I've needed to say.

      Just because I won't provide a name of a single BUG doesn't change the fact he came back to harass me, like he has on other forums, claim he's superiority over anyone who hasn't programmed something as good as himself, threw me the "I'm a Developer so you have no say in the matter" hi-all-mighty bullcrap developer attitude that people hate and now has to try to go off of that shows he's frakking deranged developer. So no, I won't list a damn bug because it has nothing to do with the way he treats me and countless others.

      If I linked you to a bug report would that change any of that? Nope. Notta. Just idiots or people on the anti-brakk3n bandwagon fall for such short sided pre-school argument tactics.

      Want bug reports go to Google. I'm not your lap hound.
      Excuse me, YOU said that YOU are having problems and all [MENTION=133671]STLcardsWS[/MENTION] and others are asking you for is EXACTLY what problems YOU are having with RetroArch but seeing as you're having a pussy tantrum, you've just proved to me that you personally don't have an issue with the application but rather you seem to be royally butthurt by [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] - sounds like a dumber version of the other recent trollathon attempt by a dipshit made by none other than nintygaming of GBATemp fame.

      Move on and let it be.

    72. brakk3n
      03-29-2013
      01:11 AM
      72

      Originally Posted by RogueSpear
      Excuse me, YOU said that YOU are having problems and all
      No I didn't. If you would of started reading from the first post all I wrote was ...
      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      Then I was personally attacked and told my opinion doesn't matter because I haven't done as much for the scene as his superior developing arse has done; therefore I have no say and my opinion doesn't matter.

      The entire "show me proof of something not working" was started by him and his buddies to further derail the thread and go way-off topic because the main topic was the trolling and his all-mighty attitude and how the little guy has no say in things, yet he's allowed to attack me on various scene sites around the scene and then his c0ck licking buddies all jump right in.

      All sorts of bugs can be found in reports across the net and like someone said before bug reports filed on his own site are often ignored or played down and the poster ridiculed and my best guess is because he has no frakking idea on how to fix them. Want reports - google, because I never said I had certain issues with his emulator ports other then the main GUI sucks; and I said that over a half a year ago. So surely, his trolling is because I'm "butt-hurt"? LOL, you got it backwards kid.

      This is like the 4th or 5th time he's done this. It's rather amusing, but it's getting sorta old.

      How about I simply posted a page long post about how you are nothing, because you have 5 posts and that your opinion doesn't matter and you don't have the right to comment on this discussion because you aren't as good as I shall decide you should be? That's what he's doing and me linking to any of the bug reports will not change this. You're simply being sidetracked by [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] 's attempt to distract readers of why he's here and what he's posted. I wouldn't be surprised if he changes the entire post or removes it completely.

      I'm also sorta shocked by the support given to this person when the people whom are supporting him are the same to talk down about the egotistical developers whom think they are better then everyone else.

      It's you kid who has no idea what's going on here so you should "move on".

    73. hellsing9
      03-29-2013
      02:00 AM
      73

      Warning

      Keep it clean guys. First warning.



    74. RogueSpear
      03-29-2013
      02:26 AM
      74

      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      No I didn't. If you would of started reading from the first post all I wrote was ...


      Then I was personally attacked and told my opinion doesn't matter because I haven't done as much for the scene as his superior developing arse has done; therefore I have no say and my opinion doesn't matter.

      The entire "show me proof of something not working" was started by him and his buddies to further derail the thread and go way-off topic because the main topic was the trolling and his all-mighty attitude and how the little guy has no say in things, yet he's allowed to attack me on various scene sites around the scene and then his c0ck licking buddies all jump right in. All sorts of bugs can be found in reports across the net and like someone said before bug reports filed on his own site are often ignored or played down and the poster ridiculed and my best guess is because he has no frakking idea on how to fix them. Want reports - google, because I never said I had certain issues with his emulator ports other then the main GUI sucks; and I said that over a half a year ago. So surely, his trolling is because I'm "butt-hurt"? LOL, you got it backwards kid.

      This is like the 4th or 5th time he's done this. It's rather amusing, but it's getting sorta old.

      How about you "move on" because you have the slightest clue of what you're talking about.


      Says the dude who apparently "doesn't mean to offend anyone (yeah right)" when in fact he actually means to do so, and when you said "Retroarchs buggy cores" everyone assumed that you had an issue (and I wouldn't blame them) and started questioning your emulation setup and whatnot but no, YOU decided to have a pussy tantrum and advised me to Google such issues and said to [MENTION=133671]STLcardsWS[/MENTION] that it is none of his business - and you wonder why [MENTION=230356]Squarepusher2[/MENTION] tore you a new ******* - it's your pseudo-accidental shit-instigating ways that's making people wanna knock your block off and do a clothesline on your stupid emo ass!

      Having said that though, I didn't see you behave as much of a dick back in 2011 (when I came into this scene) as you do now so that should be a hint as to how much of a twat you've become.

      Capiche!

      Oh and [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] - it's game over for me on this bullcrap topic as I said what I had to say.

    75. hellsing9
      03-29-2013
      02:52 AM
      75

      Roger [MENTION=269276]RogueSpear[/MENTION] let's keep this clean as i said.
      It's useless to keep on debating on this one [MENTION=260658]brakk3n[/MENTION]
      Just call it a day and done.

    76. SuperDre
      03-29-2013
      03:58 AM
      76

      Originally Posted by libretro
      But there is no frontend to be seen in that video other than just the XMB. Where do you guys all see this GUI or 'Frontend' in the video?

      He basically is doing exactly that - making a package for every ROM he wants to directly launch from the XMB.
      I quoted a post on which I responded, I wasn't talking about the video. retroxmb doesn't have anything to do with a frontend, as it's just 1 game per package just as you say.

    77. brakk3n
      03-29-2013
      04:35 AM
      77

      Originally Posted by RogueSpear
      Having said that though, I didn't see you behave as much of a dick back in 2011 (when I came into this scene) as you do now so that should be a hint as to how much of a twat you've become.
      Funny, as I wasn't around in 2011 and you have no clue as to why I responded to the different people you mention in the manner I did; nor even consider the "I'm better then everyone" stance Squarepusher uses when someone doesn't like something. You are insulting someone over things you apparently can't even grasp - the simple reason why I responded to that moron, because "I'm not good enough" to respond or judge his emulator collection; according to him. You seem to have taken a personal interest in attacking me and disregarding the entire situation at hand. So it's good you're pissing off.

      You have no say in this matter because your post count is too low (sarcasm, but exactly what Squarepusher is saying to ANYONE who disagrees with him) and in this case is called out for it then tries to throw the initial attack off topic by claiming I won't produce a name of a bug contained in his emulator cores - he successfully distracted the morons reading this to put the apparent "I'm an all mighty developer and you cannot dislike my work nor have a say in disliking it" on the side burner.

      How many movies have you (or others) stared in or directed? Maybe produced? ZERO, yet you can have an opinion on the movie you've watched, but according the squarepusher you can't have an opinion about his work unless you've proven yourself to him; and that criteria for "proving yourself" is some sort of accomplishment that he himself judges you on and is not mentioned.

      Did I mention he follows me from forum to forum trolling my posts?

      Oh, none of that matters, because I refuse to load up Google and type in "RetroArch bug". Or maybe, "totally unworking useless RetroArch cores".

      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************
      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      It's useless to keep on debating on this one [MENTION=260658]brakk3n[/MENTION] Just call it a day and done.
      No it's not.

      I get attacked by an unstable developer telling me I do not have the ability to voice my opinion over his work because I have not contributed my own work to the scene, which, he has no idea what I've contributed over the last 20 years. He's attacked you here and been banned for it, he attacks you on his site in 10 different directions, then he comes here to attack me - which he does all of the time; following me around waiting for the chance to strike as he's been banned from most "scene" sites and uses many nicknames and secret accounts.

      How would you like it if I told you that you cannot have an opinion of Metal Gear Solid because you have not programmed a full PS3 game? How about that? I responded to his spewage and got attacked by his butt-buddies too boot and the entire time my opinion doesn't matter nor can I have an opinion to begin with because he's an almighty PS3 developer that I cannot compete with.

      So screw him and anyone who is going to tell me otherwise. It's not done until I say it's done. I'm not backing down or offering forgiveness anymore. Enough is enough.

      EDIT: I know Squarepusher wants me to continue on, because, all these hypocrites that say they hate developers whom act like Gods suck aren't lifting a finger to help someone whom has contributed more to all the scenes then some emulator collection. Where are they now? Oh wait, it's okay for a developer to have a God complex if they are giving what they create away for free? Is that it? Squarepusher wants me to be banned just as he is from this site; the moderators allowing him to use another account after being banned don't care and want to see him push my buttons. So don't go around telling me what to do when you allow a banned user to come on your site and tell every member including yourself they cannot have an opinion or voice one if its negative or makes his little tiny emulator collection look bad. He wants this; my rambling; me to get banned; me to piss off - so someone with intelligence will quit saying negative things about his emulators because his frakking ego can't handle it.

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] - You cannot tell me what to do because you're not in my special club. So piss off. (This is exactly what c0.ckpusher is saying to every member of this forum).

    78. ocam
      03-29-2013
      05:08 AM
      78

      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      It's not done until I say it's done. I'm not backing down or offering forgiveness anymore. Enough is enough.

    79. hellsing9
      03-29-2013
      05:57 AM
      79

      I'm not in a position to silence your opinion but if you want to keep fighting over nothing, be my guest. [MENTION=260658]brakk3n[/MENTION]

      Regards.

      P.s: Edited to avoid more derail on this.

    80. brakk3n
      03-29-2013
      06:10 AM
      80

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      SP2 has severe issues.

      ....

      I'm not in a position to silence your opinion but if you want to keep fighting over nothing, be my guest.
      You summed that up quite well. At least someone around here doesn't have an agenda or personal vendetta and can make a good decision not based on those factors. I won't name names, but some whom have replied have not done so for any reason other then they dislike me and their replies are hiding behind my distaste for a control freak developer trying to tell me I can't make up my own opinions about his work and then share them on a public forum. So I'm not just addressing squarepushers obsession with me; there are other things at play here too which show me how low some people will go to take their blows at me. Pathetic really, to stand behind what they all call "wrong" to take a low jab at me. Wrong being the developer saying he's better then anyone else and no one else can have a say in that. When Geohot or some other devs that hid things acted like that they were flamed, but now it's okay for a developer to "be God", because it serves a purpose - the ability to throw low blows at brakk3n. Frakking hypocrite pussies.

    81. hellsing9
      03-29-2013
      06:14 AM
      81

      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      You summed that up quite well. At least someone around here doesn't have an agenda or personal vendetta and can make a good decision not based on those factors. I won't name names, but some whom have replied have not done so for any reason other then they dislike me and their replies are hiding behind my distaste for a control freak developer trying to tell me I can't make up my own opinions about his work and then share them on a public forum. So I'm not just addressing squarepushers obsession with me; there are other things at play here too which show me how low some people will go to take their blows at me. Pathetic really, to stand behind what they all call "wrong" to take a low jab at me. Wrong being the developer saying he's better then anyone else and no one else can have a say in that. When Geohot or some other devs that hid things acted like that they were flamed, but now it's okay for a developer to "be God", because it serves a purpose - the ability to throw low blows at brakk3n. Frakking hypocrite pussies.
      Like i said, call it a day.
      You already exposed what you think, more you reply is worse.
      Don't get me wrong (again), im no one to silence others opinions but it's better to get along and let this kind of problems = flow.

    82. vaalir
      03-29-2013
      06:25 AM
      82

      i have never experienced squarepusher being a total ******bag. yeah sure, i've maybe seen him be a little rough around the edges sometimes, but sometimes people can have a bad day. i KNOW he doesn't have a god complex, but you have to let the man feel proud about his work. and this work is something thats quite unique.

      just like i think you have a bad day now brakken. seriously, calm down! if he indeed is hunting you down on various forums, dont take the bait!

      and, why not just answer what bug it is? i'm curios myself!

    83. brakk3n
      03-29-2013
      06:28 AM
      83

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Like i said, call it a day.
      You already exposed what you think, more you reply is worse.
      Don't get me wrong (again), im no one to silence others opinions but it's better to get along and let this kind of problems = flow.
      I will call it a day; as it's 4:25am. I however will not "let it go" as he is harassing me enough to warrant a restraining order. He's a complete psycho, whereas I have my moments, but not 100% all-of-the-time crazy as hell "let's follow brakk3n around and troll him". I mean, grow the frak up. I'll continue this, if anything else is posted with an unbiased or unclouded (no personal agendas of 'I hate brakk3n' or petty derailing from the initial reply) here tomorrow.

    84. libretro
      03-29-2013
      08:35 AM
      84

      Herp derp - yeah, I follow brakk3n around everywhere he goes (or is it Jennys?), because he is just so important you see. Imagine that. Imagine me following some guy around like that every day - because I clearly have nothing better to do.

      OK, so it is nice to see that all this time you were talking about 'RetroArch's buggy ported cores', you weren't talking from actual user experience but rather assumed certain things because you read such and such on a forum by Mr. So and so.

      This is Mr. Knowledgeable scener guy you see - talking about how crap the PS3 home brew scene is all day while he has never owned a CFW PS3.

      Bottom line - the minute somebody stops responding to your bait and instead starts to actually ask you about your actual issues with RetroArch, it becomes clear you never used it. Thanks for wasting everybody's time ranting about it and telling everybody how much it sucks - a guy that has admittedly NEVER USED IT.

      'The GUI experience' - lulz - guess what? You make it sound like this is some kind of 'barometer' and some kind of 'requirement' for any app. Fact is - I do not owe you anything. You didn't pay for it - you are not my boss - you don't get to vote on it - hell, you self admittedly haven't even used it.

      So when I decide that fancy GUIs are a waste of time and that it is not something I am going to spend time on, guess what? You really have zero right to complain over anything. This is why I do not take donations - so abusive trolls like you really have zero leg to stand on when they want to lobby me to put certain stuff in.

      Man, the world needs more people who do not know what they are talking about and instead rely on hearsay when forming their opinion about something. That is the hallmark of a great news scene editor right there. No wonder your site is long dead and nobody ever cared about it.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      I will call it a day; as it's 4:25am. I however will not "let it go" as he is harassing me enough to warrant a restraining order. He's a complete psycho, whereas I have my moments, but not 100% all-of-the-time crazy as hell "let's follow brakk3n around and troll him". I mean, grow the frak up. I'll continue this, if anything else is posted with an unbiased or unclouded (no personal agendas of 'I hate brakk3n' or petty derailing from the initial reply) here tomorrow.
      Please don't continue this - the only derailing I see done here is by you. This thread is about retroxmb - not about brakk3ns latest psychotic trip. We all know how those episodes end and so as not to cause yourself to inflict anymore bodily harm to yourself because of your mental illness, I'll try to be the better man in this.

    85. brakk3n
      03-29-2013
      08:28 PM
      85

      The reason I've been able to form these opinions is because I have access to CFW PS3 systems. People assume saying I do not personally own one, which I stated months ago, means that (1) I haven't obtained one since then or (2) I don't know some local people that I hang out with that have CFW PS3. Either way, I state my opinions based on actual experiences and not theories that I come up with by using Google (as [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] does with people he dislikes). Plus, when it is my job to report what consoles I obtain and when I obtain them. "As far as I know" - exactly.

      I can, with a little notice, go use various CFW PS3 systems to my hearts desire. I don't own one because I have no need for one. If I want to check out the latest multiman, showtime or retroarch I can head over to a friends. I personally tested these PS2 Classics; which is why I know they suck compared to using PCSX2.

      I will again refuse to list any specific bug because (1) it's not the point of my reply to [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] (2) go pick one from any search engine and there was a build released of RetroArch where the SNES core didn't even work; though, that was a one-time thing. Though it must of sucked to have not even booted up the core to make sure it was working. Okay, I admit, I'm not sure why it didn't work, but the fact is they released an entire CORE that didn't work, and it happened to be the time I downloaded it to use it. I wanted to play a specific game on it that has issues on every emulator I've tried it on, but well, that didn't happen - because the entire CORE didn't work!!!

      Originally Posted by libretro
      Please don't continue this - the only derailing I see done here is by you.
      So you come in here, tell me I have no say or can't even have the ability to form my own opinion about your emulators therefor implying no one that hasn't met your criteria can judge them (99% of the forum). When some people start calling YOU out for coming here with that "God Developer" attitude you quickly and somewhat easily change the entire subject matter to me not being willing to provide you with a bug report, something so simple, yet it turns the argument around on me like I started it or that refusing to simply load up Google somehow makes what you said was "alright" and now you're being the better man by talking more crap? You derailed the thread to begin with. Though, I guess I am also guilty of derailing because I wouldn't let some low life scum dictate to me that since I do not code that I have no right or say in any matters regarding coding and thus that statement would then apply to everyone else in the scene who hasn't coded an emulator, but that is okay, because I refuse to provide you with a bug when there's a crapload just waiting for someone to type in "retroarch bug" in Google. You're pathetic, and to insinuate that I have a mental illness and to use that against me is the same as making fun of special needs children. You're really 100% cybertash.
      Originally Posted by Dried Paint
      Maybe youre just pissed because he doesnt release exclusively on tehskeen and include a URL in his menu?
      Talk about "reaching". Digging up old biased material from I'm guessing 3 years ago with no basis to verify it's validity. Cheap unrelated to this subject matter shot time, is it?

      You cannot be trusted; you're like a snake pretending to be everyone's friend. You know what I'm talking about. What you had planned and who you used to take the fall for it?

      Grow a pair.

    86. libretro
      03-29-2013
      09:05 PM
      86

      I just wanted to remind everybody that this nutty behavior seen above isn't unique to just this episode - brakk3n has always been a trouble instigator in every 'scene' he was around - to the point where he drives devs out of a scene and soon afterwards causes bodily harm to himself.

      Really, an 'online forum' is not the best place to go to for a group therapy session - there are professionals for that kind of stuff that fulfill those needs.

      For instance - as an example of one other 'fight' -

      * Marcan called out by Brakken, leaves the Wii homebrew scene

      This was around the 2009/2010 period.

      I can't post links here due to the post count, but just google that and you'll see all the back and forth crybaby sessions partly instigated by Mr. brakk3n.

      And tons of other mudslinging fights (let's not forget him cursing Muslims and saying stuff derogatory about Muslims whenever somebody posted a new release of Quran DS in the DS homebrew scene - all of which went unmoderated of course on Teh Skeen forums because Brakk3n had special privileges as 'moderator' to put the last word in).

      Really, seek psychiatric help. It's the only possible route for you now. Or find something positive to channel your creative energy in (that doesn't involve **** stirring and 'scene commentary'). You suck at it and all you leave behind is a path of destruction - sometimes causing bodily harm even to yourself.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by brakk3n

      I will again refuse to list any specific bug because (1) it's not the point of my reply to [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] (2) go pick one from any search engine and there was a build released of RetroArch where the SNES core didn't even work; though, that was a one-time thing. Though it must of sucked to have not even booted up the core to make sure it was working. Okay, I admit, I'm not sure why it didn't work, but the fact is they released an entire CORE that didn't work, and it happened to be the time I downloaded it to use it.
      Talk about reaching yourself - that was for one version (0.9.8) - and it was immediately corrected after that - it was just a build error where my automated build system accidentally made the SNES core into Doom instead.

      If that automatically makes the entire project 'worthless' to you because of one tiny build glitch that was immediately corrected afterwards, and if that constitutes 'bugged' to you, then piss off - I see professional game developers making more serious bugs like that these days in commercial games like SimCity and there are people paying money for that crap - you're paying zero for my stuff.

    87. brakk3n
      03-29-2013
      09:15 PM
      87

      Originally Posted by libretro
      I just wanted to remind everybody that this nutty behavior seen above isn't unique to just this episode - brakk3n has always been a trouble instigator in every 'scene' he was around - to the point where he drives devs out of a scene and soon afterwards causes bodily harm to himself.
      Still playing the mental illness\suicide card are we? I did not try to end my life over anything related to the Internet. Even if it were the case you're a frakking lowlife scum sucker for exploiting people with mental illnesses and then paint them black and make fun of them and use their attempt to end their lives as a way to push the facts away from you. That's pretty frakking sick. Like, sick-in-the-head sick.

      Due to the fact that you could even see this as a remote possibility shows that you may be acceptable to thinking in such ways. Then, trying to play what I have to say about the way you treat me and others, your "I'm a developer and I'm better then you" is a psychotic episode is even more hilarious. I'm perfectly fine, thank you for asking.

      As for the "let's dig up the past and speculate on it now" to avoid what you posted and what I've been complaining about (or at least trying to) is what you've just done, what you've just said.

      You stated because I don't have any accomplishments (like yourself, your RetroCrap in a box) that I have no say and I have no right to my own opinion regarding your work. Therefore, that would apply to anyone who hasn't ported over emulators (too quickly I might add) or have created some crappy API has no say in it. So you're better then the rest of us and we can't critisize your work. That is what you're avoiding - the issue you started by derailing the thread; not this "let's play Google and assume" game.
      Originally Posted by libretro
      Then again, remind me when you were ever in a position of authority to begin with where your opinion was the final word on anything
      Originally Posted by libretro
      (no, your crappy has-been news website doesn't count)
      Originally Posted by libretro
      You have quite some nerve to talk crap about my project with no accomplishments to call your own.
      Not crap that happened years ago taken out of context from Google searches. Nice try, but only idiots would fall into that sort of trap. You're trying ten ways to Sunday to take the light off of what you said and the implications reflected in it by all sorts of means. Why not address your original post?
      Why try to avoid that?

      Why did you state you're better then anyone else who hasn't coded for the PS3 and why no one else can have their own opinion let alone voice it if it is something you dislike. You've been trying to avoid that with the rest of your posts - they are all useless trash posted to take that simple subject - you're "All mighty developer" stance out of the spotlight and make me look like I'm a lunatic.

      I'm not the one following others around to do the same thing over and over again. Isn't that the definition of psychotic? I'm sure you're having fun because you're way more crazy then I could ever be. Frakking wack-job. +i for you.

    88. libretro
      03-29-2013
      09:32 PM
      88

      Sorry, but if you want somebody to talk to, I think a psychiatrist would be the man or woman for the job. I don't know what it is you expect me to do for you, but I can't help you.

      I have better things to do and I'm already doing way too much free stuff for free - not going to add 'psychiatric counselling' to my list as well. Who knows, some entitled schmuck might not like the (free) services I provide and launch into another hissy fit about it. Not worth it.

      Bye, and best of luck in your 'life'.
      ************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      and make me look like I'm a lunatic.
      Honestly, I don't even have to try very hard - just read back through your posts whenever you've taken your meds and are in a sane mood.

    89. Benzonia
      03-29-2013
      09:56 PM
      89

      So how about that RetroXMB, huh?

    90. libretro
      03-29-2013
      09:59 PM
      90

      Originally Posted by Benzonia
      So how about that RetroXMB, huh?
      Yeah. At this point I'd say to the mods - just delete the entire crapfest argument since it serves zero purpose for the users at this point. Nobody cares about this childish 'scene drama' crap - it's mildly entertaining at best, but most of the time it's just boring.

    91. sandungas
      03-29-2013
      10:02 PM
      91


    92. brakk3n
      03-29-2013
      11:25 PM
      92

      Originally Posted by libretro
      Yeah. At this point I'd say to the mods - just delete the entire crapfest argument since it serves zero purpose for the users at this point. Nobody cares about this childish 'scene drama' crap - it's mildly entertaining at best, but most of the time it's just boring.
      That would work out great for you - cover up the entire situation and what you started and what you said and what you couldn't stomach to finish.

      Now you're throwing out the "I programmed it for free so excuse me if I say I'm better then most of you and you can't have a voice because I'm some superior human being because I am program for the PS3" card.

      I don't give two flying hoots what you've programmed; it gives you no excuse to tell me and the rest of the world they cannot have a negative opinion about your work nor can they have a voice because they cannot program for the PS3 (or maybe don't want to).

      So since it's free that means you can treat people like that? That you're better then me simply because you can program?

      That's what you posted when you picked a fight buddy. Now you want it deleted. Hahaha... To top it off you're playing the "chill dude" when you're the one who stalks me, harasses me and slanders me from forum to forum just because I state simple facts or simple opinions that aggravate you to a point where you come back to a site you said you'd never come back to and are banned under other usernames. Hahahaha.....

      Just delete it all; that would be best - for you.

      Closing the thread, allowing your spewage and hostility towards the end user and your superiority complex to remain intact plus your wild mood swings and ill attempts to go off the topic you started would be better then removing the evidence of your misgivings and I think you're in no position to tell the moderators here what to do seeing they banned your ass long ago and you vowed never to return - yet to do so admitting it was to directly harass me and go on to say since I'm no accomplished PS3 coder my opinion doesn't matter. Frak off.

    93. libretro
      03-30-2013
      03:15 AM
      93

      Lulz, the nutcase fruityloop is so upset that as recently as 3 minutes ago he is still adding additional paragraphs to his *post*, incrementally upping the 'outrage'.

      Dude, get a life already. I am no longer responding to you. Deal with it. You are really not all that important.

      Bye now - it was a fun laugh while it lasted - then you became boring and predictable.

      Oh BTW - you were banned as well - as your girlish 'alter ego' jennys - you crossdressing fruityloop nutcase you.

    94. gambaownsu
      03-30-2013
      01:01 PM
      94

      Squarepusher. Jealousy'n'butthurt people will always shi- on good developers.

      Your emu's are great. Fawk GUI and all that crap.

      By the way, what do you think of Robert Broglia (http://www.explusalpha.com/) emu's?

    95. libretro
      03-30-2013
      02:01 PM
      95

      Originally Posted by gambaownsu
      Squarepusher. Jealousy'n'butthurt people will always follow good developers.

      Your emu's are great. Fawk GUI and all that crap.

      By the way, what do you think of Robert Broglia (http://www.explusalpha.com/) emu's?
      What I think of it?

      After RetroArch is on Blackberry and iOS, it will be Game Over for him. Seriously, and people call me 'just an emulator porter' - have a good look at that guy instead and you have the perfect personification of a guy who is 'just that'. At least I did the equivalent of a total rewrite of SNES9x that actually managed to dramatically increase the framerate of several games - unlike the dubious 'SNES9x EX' rebrands which is nothing more than bogstandard 1.53/1.43 versions. Honestly, I still to this day don't get what people find to be so 'special' about his ports - I've tried them on my own tablet and the frameskip alone was enough to put me off it. Then I turned off frameskip and I either got lousy sound or just the framerate being under fullspeed.

      Then you have to go and pay 6 dollars for a bogstandard port of BlueMSX which is just totally outrageous - honestly, the guy is a bigger money grabber than most commercial game companies - yet supposedly, to 'scenes' like this, I'm the 'bad guy' because I only pour half my life into producing free stuff for people to enjoy - and people like him are, well, 'entitled' to their money and they shrug it off - 'oh well, GPLv2 allows this' - that's your typical FLOSS tard right there showing off how he is a pathetic sellout. Know how easy it would have been for me to put a price tag on RetroArch and be raking in 500 dollars right now every month - that is, if I wanted to ACT LIKE A SCUMBAG. Guess which route I took? So what does that tell you about my conduct vs. the lowlife scum that is raking in 500 dollars every month based on emulator ports (yes, I can name names but it's best you just google it instead and put the pieces together yourself).

      Then there is the issue of him clearly disrespecting the authors of Genesis Plus GX when they politely reminded him that they did not like him selling their emu for money on App Stores - he then pulls the license card 'it's GPL2, I'm allowed to sell it' - which in turn compels these guys to change te license into Non-commercial instead. I don't care how good of a 'porter' you are - if that is how you treat the people who are buttering your bread,you are a disgusting scumbag and you need to be taken down a few notches. My only reason for entering in that fleece-ridden scene was to do some serious damage to this disgusting low-life entrepreneurial scum and remind them of what this scene used to be about before they came along and tied their wagons to 'app monetization' and all this newspeak crap.

      Thankfully though, Mastercard/Paypal/Google are already seeing to it he can no longer obtain ill gotten gains from other people's hard work. It's time to bring the spirit of the original homebrew/console hacking scene to these tablets/phones and that is what I sought out to do with RetroArch Android. It wasn't enough to finish these guys off entirely but with iOS and Blackberry I'm pretty confident it can manage just that.

      The only reason some people still have some use for his stuff (mostly people that have phones/tablets with sucky screens - low refrehrates) is because Android sucks and frameskip (however bad it is) can help obscure the obvious defects of that platform when it comes to maintaining sync in an emulator (and this is an area I'm not willing to go). If Android had been as good as iOS/QNX, it would have been a done deal by now.

    96. brakk3n
      03-30-2013
      06:15 PM
      96

      Originally Posted by gambaownsu
      Squarepusher. Jealousy'n'butthurt people will always shi- on good developers.
      He's following me you retard! Read his post, he came here to solely harass me and then told me I have no right to my own opinion because he's better then me because he has accomplished something by porting emulators to the PS3 I haven't.

      How in the frakking world could you possibly think that I'm the one sh-ttting on him? He's sh-tting on 99% of the PS3 Scene and has been for since I ran into him 6 or so months ago!!!

      Just because you can code doesn't mean you are better then anyone else nor have the right to tell them they cannot form their own opinion!

      I never claimed he wasn't a good developer or that RetroArch in whole isn't that bad, but him following me (not the other way around you frakking moron) and telling me along with the rest of the PS3 scene that if you have no accomplishments then you have no right to your own opinion.

      I claimed over half a year ago that the GUI for retroarch sucks and that it has bugs - he flipped out and has been stalking me ever since.


      Some people are so frakking dense they can't seem to grasp he came here and attacked me and has been doing so on all sorts of sites. He's frakking stalking me, trolling and saying you nor I have no say in the matter.

      So you have no right to say you like his emulators you nut job. So shut up. You have no say in anything related to [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] work because you haven't made any accomplishments. I mean it. Shut your trap. You're opinion doesn't matter. You haven't coded something like the all-mighty co.ck.pusher has. Shut it. Nope. Not a peep. You're worthless because you do not code for the PS3 - this is what [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] has been telling me and others for months! You nub.

      Learn how to read.

    97. STRATEGIZER
      03-30-2013
      06:46 PM
      97

      Random post.. lol.

      Just found this in my email, Totally forgot about it TBH. Dont have a PS3 now so its no good to me.

      Please Reply whoever redeems it. Thanks!

      [SPOILER]You can now enjoy: �5 PlayStation Network Wallet Top Up

      Activation code: P3R2-G2N6-A4FT


      [/SPOILER]

      Best like a Ninja

      Later!!

    98. libretro
      03-30-2013
      08:44 PM
      98

      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      He's following me you retard! Read his post, he came here to solely harass me and then told me I have no right to my own opinion because he's better then me because he has accomplished something by porting emulators to the PS3 I haven't.

      How in the frakking world could you possibly think that I'm the one sh-ttting on him? He's sh-tting on 99% of the PS3 Scene and has been for since I ran into him 6 or so months ago!!!

      Just because you can code doesn't mean you are better then anyone else nor have the right to tell them they cannot form their own opinion!

      I never claimed he wasn't a good developer or that RetroArch in whole isn't that bad, but him following me (not the other way around you frakking moron) and telling me along with the rest of the PS3 scene that if you have no accomplishments then you have no right to your own opinion.

      I claimed over half a year ago that the GUI for retroarch sucks and that it has bugs - he flipped out and has been stalking me ever since.


      Some people are so frakking dense they can't seem to grasp he came here and attacked me and has been doing so on all sorts of sites. He's frakking stalking me, trolling and saying you nor I have no say in the matter.

      So you have no right to say you like his emulators you nut job. So shut up. You have no say in anything related to [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] work because you haven't made any accomplishments. I mean it. Shut your trap. You're opinion doesn't matter. You haven't coded something like the all-mighty co.ck.pusher has. Shut it. Nope. Not a peep. You're worthless because you do not code for the PS3 - this is what [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] has been telling me and others for months! You nub.

      Learn how to read.
      You are mentally insane and paranoid/delusional. I am not following you around. I don't know which person you are talking about but the only time you and me ever interacted again after a full-on year was just a few days ago when I made the first initial reply. I took offense at you calling RetroArch's cores 'buggy' and wanted to know what evidence you had to backup your claims - turns out you PERSONALLY didn't have any (and in the case of the SNES core being DOOM for the entirety of 1-2 days - you don't have a goddamn leg to stand on).

      BTW - don't pretend you're Mr. NIceguy as well - you collect a disability pension check every month and scam people out of their own money (yeah, I've got the threads about that as well - along with your real name in fact) - then you want to sit there and make a big hissyfit about how it is you that is not getting treated right in the world. Frankly, given your specific condition, a forum should be the last place you should be on for your own mental sanity.

      Don't make this into a big spectacle and just agree to let bygones be bygones. If not, screw your badgering - it's time for the mods to step in or just for me to leave this channel because I don't feel like having any conversation with you anymore after these lunatic rants. Your insane presence here is making me want to leave just like Marcan felt like leaving - that's what you do to everybody - you heckle the crap out of them until they no longer feel like putting up with your crap and think 'screw this, I have better stuff to do with my time than having to deal with a self-entitled and insane **** like this'.

    99. gambaownsu
      03-30-2013
      09:40 PM
      99

      Originally Posted by brakk3n
      He's following me you retard! Read his post, he came here to solely harass me and then told me I have no right to my own opinion because he's better then me because he has accomplished something by porting emulators to the PS3 I haven't.

      How in the frakking world could you possibly think that I'm the one sh-ttting on him? He's sh-tting on 99% of the PS3 Scene and has been for since I ran into him 6 or so months ago!!!

      Just because you can code doesn't mean you are better then anyone else nor have the right to tell them they cannot form their own opinion!

      I never claimed he wasn't a good developer or that RetroArch in whole isn't that bad, but him following me (not the other way around you frakking moron) and telling me along with the rest of the PS3 scene that if you have no accomplishments then you have no right to your own opinion.

      I claimed over half a year ago that the GUI for retroarch sucks and that it has bugs - he flipped out and has been stalking me ever since.


      Some people are so frakking dense they can't seem to grasp he came here and attacked me and has been doing so on all sorts of sites. He's frakking stalking me, trolling and saying you nor I have no say in the matter.

      So you have no right to say you like his emulators you nut job. So shut up. You have no say in anything related to [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] work because you haven't made any accomplishments. I mean it. Shut your trap. You're opinion doesn't matter. You haven't coded something like the all-mighty co.ck.pusher has. Shut it. Nope. Not a peep. You're worthless because you do not code for the PS3 - this is what [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] has been telling me and others for months! You nub.

      Learn how to read.
      I won't debate with someone who's IQ is under scfifty-five al thought I feel very flattered that you spent that much of text and space for me. Oh wait, I forgot - that disability pension check every month must surely help pass the time.

    100. libretro
      03-30-2013
      09:58 PM
      100

      Oh BTW, just a blast from the past to show how insane this guy is -

      http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/thr...ively-on-There

      Tantric has been banned from Tehskeen for denying Brakkens demands to "distrubute the emulators on TehSkeen where they belong". Read the email below for the full details.

      This seems like a very interesting turn of events. Honestly I would have never seen anything like this coming. Talk about scene drama! I have to agree with Tantric's choice - the emulators do not belong to tekskeen. They are open source, and should be kept that way - from open contribution to distribution.
      Secondly, I really don't see brakken's beef? I'm not really sure what the issue is. It seems he is trying to use the emulators as a website promotion technique, with complete disregard for the developers, the open source license, and the users. None of the aforementioned parties are tehskeen, and they are THE main stakeholders in terms of these emulators.
      Talk about fascist scum that is worse than psx-scene's one-time policy of saying 'any and all content you post here belongs to psx-scene' - they never really acted upon it but you Mr. scumbag did try just that.

      No, they don't belong to you Brakk3n - know why? Because you didn't do jack crap all on them because you can't code worth ****. Once again, your crappy newssite doesn't count and doesnt grant you 'ownership' over any and all content that gets posted there from people who actually CAN code.

      You are just as bad as the entrepreneurial scumbags that sold DRM'ed dongles like Cobra and True Blue in your own little way.

    101. RogueSpear
      03-31-2013
      02:55 AM
      101

      [MENTION=123403]STRATEGIZER[/MENTION]

      Best pre-birthday present evah!

      Thanks for the post - I've claimed it.

      In other news: shut up [MENTION=260658]brakk3n[/MENTION] and by the way [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION] - thank you for making my day also!

    102. brakk3n
      03-31-2013
      03:16 AM
      102

      [MENTION=245329]libretro[/MENTION]

      Another example of not knowing crap about a situation that happen long ago and using what little you can find on Google to tarnish my name in a thread that you came to attack me in - going against your own word never to come back, admittedly trolling my and saying I have no word in anything because I have not accomplished something that you may deem fit for me to form an opinion.

      ---------------

      A history lesson; first; that site; owned by "wraggster" - dcemu copied news 24/7 from TehSkeen, just as PS3_News does from ps3hax and others without sourcing and likes to "edit" and "alter" posts. I have no way to tell if that is what I posted verbatim. Wraggster is a slimy snake who will bite you in the back when you're not looking.

      When SoftDev, the original porter of most of the GC emulators left the "scene" Tantric, among others, took over the development. During this time Tantric assured me that he would keep the current delivery system intact an release them on TehSkeen, yes, where they belonged.

      Now, did I have a right to demand that he release on TehSkeen. No, and to assume that was wrong. Yes, you heard me. I was wrong. I made a bad judgement call; years ago. End of issue.

      Now, was I in the right to ban someone from my site that bold faced lied to me? Yes I was. It was my site, the largest GC/Wii scene site to exist (look up ratings you nub) and I could ban whomever I please.

      ---------------

      So, you look the fool, again, by simply taking something you find on a Google out of context to try to smear my name in your all out attack against me - that you started, like the times before, you follow me around, trolling, harassing, you're a frakking nutjob.

      Next time why not collect facts, talk to people, ask questions, get the real story before you go blabbering about something that happened long ago that you are digging up to tarnish my name and try to move the subject matter -

      ... the fact you think you're better then anyone who can't code for the PS3

      .... and that they have no right to their own opinion or let alone voice it

      .... that is what this is about

      .... you came here

      .... you started this

      .... you said those things

      .... now you're trying to change the subject

      .... nice try

      .... nub face

      Or should I call you "all mighty emulator coder God person" whom I should cower in fear to?

      nub

    103. HulkWogan
      03-31-2013
      03:28 AM
      103

      Did anyone get the number of that donkey cart?