• Featured, General, Jailbreaking , 09.07.2013

    Hellsing9

    Today @xxmcvapourxx posted here on HAX about some news on 3k3y then @bubba checked that info and added more.
    I wonder WTF Cobra is doing?. 4 Months even more to secure their device while 3K3Y is going for more.
    What made me “giggle” that according to Bubba; Cobra is using the same HACK.

    So what’s to expect?:

    To be honest, i think it’s more of the same but i like 3k3y posture on this. Feels like they are determined to SINK Cobra.
    Maybe Cobra takes some 4 other months to secure their website..another pathetic excuse of probably doing nothing or having something and not releasing it for fear of copycats.
    Sadly (everyone know that) we are entering into a ODDE “Era” and as happened before with DRM dongles. We can expect many other devices like this in a near future.
    Remember that E3 is still too damn silent..maybe they already gave up.

    What we know so far about 3K3Y:

    • Super Slim adapters are now being manufactured, ETA 2 weeks.
    • Homebrew loading now working.
    • Feature added: Region lock removal.
    • A new 3k3y FAT update is now in beta testing. With this firmware there is no longer any need for CFW to dump the drive key.
    • 3KF works without keys. Superslim in < 2 weeks, 200x etc etc soon after.
    • XK2, 3KS and UK3Y will likely all be the same main PCB.
    • Just add adapter.
    • 250x, 300x & superslim all need soldering
    • 8 signal points on QSB
    • Plus GND, 5V Plus 1 wire for superslim.

    This is “long term” solution for 3K/4K users?:

    Sadly for the ones who want to purchase 3K3Y or Cobra (if on 2019 they finally release their product) nope.
    Sony can release a Patch and the user will have the same problem or worst like when we were using hardware flashers.
    Because if that UPDATE mess up with that “HACK” it’s game over for 3K/4K users.
    It’s almost the same pattern and history repeats itself.

    Zecoxao words about this:

    i take few people gave a real hard look at naehrwert’s meme pic? that’s how the thing works. auth_drive_user is probably a function to authenticate the bdrive. since he said it doesn’t use eid4, you can assume two things:

    1- it doesn’t use perconsole keys and derivatives
    2- it probably uses keys associated with the bddrive modules (sv_iso_spu_module keys, not perconsole)

    you tell this to any other people who understand how to make an ode and you got ****loads of ODEs appearing (the clones). you also have a nice clean patch by sony and it’s game over for the odes on unhackables, atleast until the most current version.

    Final words about this:

    Indeed, we entered in some new “era” ODDE’S dark times. Where you will see in near future more clones than real answers.
    But like i said. 3K3Y seems legit (very) about what they are doing. Im against DRM but at least they (not like COBRA) are moving their asses to do something to deliver something to end user.
    It’s up to you if you want to purchase it or not.

    Meanwhile. “Let them sing”.

    Regards

    Hellsing9

    Thanks to @zecoxao too :)

    Watermark done by me.

    Discuss in Forums (38)


  • 38 Comments

    1. Bigbones87
      07-09-2013
      10:10 PM
      1

      May be my setup....but broken link?

    2. hellsing9
      07-09-2013
      10:10 PM
      2

      Originally Posted by Bigbones87
      May be my setup....but broken link?
      Nope. Currently editing the article

    3. Bigbones87
      07-09-2013
      10:11 PM
      3

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Nope. Currently editing the article
      Quote me when finished please.

    4. hellsing9
      07-09-2013
      10:17 PM
      4

      Originally Posted by Bigbones87
      Quote me when finished please.
      Yeah [MENTION=233168]Bigbones87[/MENTION] that's the problem when editing an article. The first post got all messed up and Read more link got's messed up.

      Now it's fixed!.

      Check it if this time didn't work. Let me know.

    5. Bigbones87
      07-09-2013
      10:19 PM
      5

      Working good. Thanks [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]

    6. hellsing9
      07-09-2013
      10:20 PM
      6

      No problemo [MENTION=233168]Bigbones87[/MENTION]

    7. DjKlown
      07-09-2013
      10:21 PM
      7

      Huh

      10char

    8. Bigbones87
      07-09-2013
      10:30 PM
      8

      Believe me, I'm no expert on the situation and I'm definetly not one of those users who ask "can this be used on ofw" blah blah blah.....but it seems to me, if they can run homebrew on 3.56+ and not just emulate bd drive, then they can do anything on 3.56+. That may not be true, but it seems logical that once again certain people are offering to sell you something, when clearly it isn't NEEDED, and they are just money whores. Please, someone more knowledgable correct me if I'm wrong.

    9. hellsing9
      07-09-2013
      10:33 PM
      9

      Originally Posted by Bigbones87
      Believe me, I'm no expert on the situation and I'm definetly not one of those users who ask "can this be used on ofw" blah blah blah.....but it seems to me, if they can run homebrew on 3.56+ and not just emulate bd drive, then they can do anything on 3.56+. That may not be true, but it seems logical that once again certain people are offering to sell you something, when clearly it isn't NEEDED, and they are just money whores. Please, someone more knowledgable correct me if I'm wrong.
      True but [MENTION=202826]zecoxao[/MENTION] already told what's this about.
      It's useless because on the next update if those devices doesn't manage to bypass that possible future update 3K/4K will be in the same situation all over again...

    10. Bigbones87
      07-09-2013
      10:40 PM
      10

      But clearly the powers that be (corrupt devs) know how to make homebrew run on ofw....but are going to reap the cash benefit of leaving it under wraps. I know sony can fix it with an update....but that would only effect people who update.....meaning only the people who want to be able to get on live would have to update. But it would allow homebrew for anyone who didn't care and didn't update. And it could be offered without hardware, but they will wrap it up into a $100+ hardware item. Keep in mind, I'm not talking about bd emulation....I'm strictly talking about homebrew since they say it can run it. But once again...I'm not that knowledgable on the situation. thanks tho. Interesting read.

    11. hellsing9
      07-09-2013
      10:49 PM
      11

      Originally Posted by Bigbones87
      But clearly the powers that be (corrupt devs) know how to make homebrew run on ofw....but are going to reap the cash benefit of leaving it under wraps. I know sony can fix it with an update....but that would only effect people who update.....meaning only the people who want to be able to get on live would have to update. But it would allow homebrew for anyone who didn't care and didn't update. And it could be offered without hardware, but they will wrap it up into a $100+ hardware item. Keep in mind, I'm not talking about bd emulation....I'm strictly talking about homebrew since they say it can run it. But once again...I'm not that knowledgable on the situation. thanks tho. Interesting read.
      Well when we know more about how 3K3Y managed to run homebrew the more we will learn.
      Yeah it's already encapsulated that method...but you know the drill.

      I will not pay for that. I will just watch from a safe distance to see what comes after this.

    12. OoZic
      07-10-2013
      02:38 AM
      12

      I will buy one as soon as it can run OtherOS

    13. cloudx
      07-10-2013
      03:06 AM
      13

      hmmm we will see how this goes and plus on the pic is it from a game or anime ? i must know ! XD

    14. hellsing9
      07-10-2013
      03:13 AM
      14

      Originally Posted by cloudx
      hmmm we will see how this goes and plus on the pic is it from a game or anime ? i must know ! XD
      CG artist.

    15. zecoxao
      07-10-2013
      03:55 AM
      15

      i honestly don't think there is any corruption on devs NOW. i mean, maybe before, there were some, when that cex2dex crap still was a secret and people were selling "DEX units" which infact were converts.

      The discbind thing (homebrew running with the discbind flag) exists since 3.55 and as far as i know, Sony can't do **** about it, because they can't remove the old ps3 games of the market now (the ones that required 3.55 to work, such as gran turismo 5, iirc). as for the bd drive auth stuff, well, that is "recent", from the time glevand started (well we all know how he is lol, maybe he finished this years ago, maybe not) to post his reversing job on the wiki about bd drive. as for the said "hack" (no use for drive keys), yep, that's something new, but we have a trumph card on our sleeves, and that is the fact a dev knows about it

    16. hellsing9
      07-10-2013
      04:24 AM
      16

      Originally Posted by zecoxao
      i honestly don't think there is any corruption on devs NOW. i mean, maybe before, there were some, when that cex2dex crap still was a secret and people were selling "DEX units" which infact were converts.

      The discbind thing (homebrew running with the discbind flag) exists since 3.55 and as far as i know, Sony can't do **** about it, because they can't remove the old ps3 games of the market now (the ones that required 3.55 to work, such as gran turismo 5, iirc). as for the bd drive auth stuff, well, that is "recent", from the time glevand started (well we all know how he is lol, maybe he finished this years ago, maybe not) to post his reversing job on the wiki about bd drive. as for the said "hack" (no use for drive keys), yep, that's something new, but we have a trumph card on our sleeves, and that is the fact a dev knows about it
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      Whoever is righteous let him be righteous still.
      Whoever is filthy let him be filthy still.
      Listen to the words long written down,
      When the man comes around.


      Or just lex parsimoniae...

    17. HipHopStyler
      07-10-2013
      08:20 AM
      17

      Hmm.. I see that also the unhackable ps3 consoles get hacked, but didnt Sony learn from their mistakes?
      If this goes like this, we could do the same process on the ps4 , or?

    18. hellsing9
      07-10-2013
      08:24 AM
      18

      Idk but too soon to talk about ps4.


      Sent from my iBoob touch using Tapatalk

    19. HipHopStyler
      07-10-2013
      08:27 AM
      19

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Idk but too soon to talk about ps4.


      Sent from my iBoob touch using Tapatalk
      Ok then. Will ask that question in december 2013 . Put that question on your calender.

      OFFTOPIC: May I touch your iBoob?

    20. hellsing9
      07-10-2013
      08:30 AM
      20

      HahahaAttachment 2898 sure. (Not)


      Sent from my iBoob touch using Tapatalk

    21. HipHopStyler
      07-10-2013
      08:33 AM
      21

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] Thanks man. What a feeling. Wait I take some sunflower oil and touch it again.

    22. bund325
      07-10-2013
      09:01 AM
      22

      hellsing9 is a female? wowzers

    23. ocam
      07-10-2013
      09:18 AM
      23

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Sent from my iBoob touch using Tapatalk
      where can I buy an iBoob?

    24. AlexBaka
      07-10-2013
      12:40 PM
      24

      buy a 3K3Y/Cobra for 100$ and never go online or to install free CFW and never go online..hmm what should i choose

    25. zecoxao
      07-10-2013
      04:25 PM
      25

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION], check pucesconsoles.fr , they have the ode on stock now.

    26. felino_31
      07-10-2013
      05:41 PM
      26

      zecoxao, are you sure? I check and their are on pre-order.

    27. hellsing9
      07-10-2013
      07:43 PM
      27

      Originally Posted by ocam
      where can I buy an iBoob?
      It's a gift from the "gods"...i bought mine at starting price 200 u$s (haha jk just use tapatalk change the sig = done).

      Originally Posted by zecoxao
      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION], check pucesconsoles.fr , they have the ode on stock now.
      Thanks for the tip. I was checking if indeed there's stock of this "device" and if my eyes not deceive me = 108,90 € for Cobra?.
      If i messed up let me know.

      Originally Posted by AlexBaka
      buy a 3K3Y/Cobra for 100$ and never go online or to install free CFW and never go online..hmm what should i choose
      It's your pocket xD. If i were you i will wait some months..until everything is in the market and we know how exactly all this things works.
      Or just check Nae's twitter.

      Originally Posted by bubba
      If that is [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] in that Picture...**** I dont have to go out to Find a Chick..I can get one here hehe...then We can Have a Ps3hax Wedding Everyone on the site is Invited hehe..
      First Ps3hax Wedding!!!
      The day a chick is finally in Hax ranks. I promise that i will stop posting random boobs avatars and convince her (drug her) to make some epic photoshoot. xD

      Seems that i'm the only one to bring some joy when we fall short on smiles and boobs.
      If you stared them long enough you will life-span increases.

    28. Kalberto
      07-11-2013
      09:23 PM
      28

      honestly,
      I will not buy this 2 device 3K3Y and ODDE.
      3K3Y-
      I don't like the little LCD for choosing the title games,
      fyi, after playing one game, I'm very lazy to stand up from my sofa , only to go closer to that little LCD, just for choosing the other game.

      ODDE-
      I like it at the first time, watching the last video of ODDE, but I think it again, I don't like it either.
      because I have to wait and must turn off and restart again, after choosing the title game to play it.

      it will be awesome, if the all game's title is inside XMB not inside little LCD and it must not turn off for restart it again, to play the games.

    29. bammo
      07-11-2013
      10:43 PM
      29

      Why buy an ode when Sony can patch it?

    30. tjhooker73
      07-11-2013
      10:50 PM
      30

      Originally Posted by bammo
      Why buy an ode when Sony can patch it?
      Sony can't easily patch it as they couldn't easily patch the 3.41 hack or the 3.55 hack.

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    31. bammo
      07-11-2013
      10:55 PM
      31

      Just throw another new update and it should close down the ode just like the 3.55

    32. tjhooker73
      07-12-2013
      01:13 AM
      32

      Originally Posted by bammo
      Just throw another new update and it should close down the ode just like the 3.55
      The info has been out for a long time. So why hasn't Sony patched it before it began selling. Or why havent they started suing and or closing websites. It's a bit strange if you ask me.

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    33. The Dutch Gamer
      07-12-2013
      05:32 AM
      33

      I've been thinking for a bit... if I understood right these hardware mods pretend to be the BR-drive. When a backup is loaded it mounts an pre-3.55 game.

      Now here is where I am starting to get confused a bit. If this hardware loads an older game but plays another one (the backed up game) and we get some trophies for this backed up game, wouldn't this give Sony a way to track us down ?

      I'm sure Sony logs our activities, what will happen if they see (for example) we're using GTA IV to be our "loader" and let's say we play The Last of Us and get some trophies. What will happen ? Will the logs show we're playing GTA IV and we got some TLoU trophies around the same time...

      Maybe I got it all wrong and it doesn't work like this
      Like I said, I'm a little confused :P

    34. DEFAULTDNB
      07-12-2013
      05:48 AM
      34

      Originally Posted by The Dutch Gamer
      I've been thinking for a bit... if I understood right these hardware mods pretend to be the BR-drive. When a backup is loaded it mounts an pre-3.55 game.
      <snip>
      Maybe I got it all wrong and it doesn't work like this
      Like I said, I'm a little confused :P
      Where does it say it mounts a pre 3.55 game?

    35. zecoxao
      07-12-2013
      06:02 AM
      35

      i'm pretty sure the info can be patched, they only have to take care of sv_iso i suppose

    36. The Dutch Gamer
      07-12-2013
      06:17 AM
      36

      Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB
      Where does it say it mounts a pre 3.55 game?
      I was reading something like that in one of the other ODE topics floating around over here, but maybe it's me and I didn't understand it right. I'm still having some trouble waking up today, was a loooooong workingday yesterday

      From: http://www.ps3hax.net/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=53
      Originally Posted by haxckode
      I have said before is an original game which puts a savedata that gives access to the whole kernel keys are not needed since it is an original game that gives access to all the others to play., the game is mounted in the unit but the game is somewhat modified as a manager, requires activation, that's why sony can patch .. and when you say that everyone should play is run to buy it, it is not necessary any more ode, the ode is the original game in a flash recorded hundred percent sure, do not buy this ode, because in less than a week with a single patch becoming unusable

    37. DEFAULTDNB
      07-12-2013
      06:30 AM
      37

      Originally Posted by The Dutch Gamer
      I was reading something like that in one of the other ODE topics floating around over here, but maybe it's me and I didn't understand it right. I'm still having some trouble waking up today, was a loooooong workingday yesterday

      From: http://www.ps3hax.net/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=53
      Hmm, interesting hypothesis, but I dont buy it... I'm sure [MENTION=70636]bubba[/MENTION] said he has been on PSN for ages now, I'm guessing, with trophies working fine, and games/homebrew booting....

      Wasn't Haxckode the faker who showed that vid of a string of E3 parts booting backups?

      http://www.ps3hax.net/2013/05/rumour...e-for-4k-ps3s/

      Get some sleep

    38. JonahUK
      07-12-2013
      06:51 AM
      38

      Originally Posted by The Dutch Gamer
      I've been thinking for a bit... if I understood right these hardware mods pretend to be the BR-drive. When a backup is loaded it mounts an pre-3.55 game.
      When you put a game in, the disc is authorised to play.
      This routine is replicated in the hardware and then applied to the iso.

      That's the way I understand it anyway.