• E3, Featured, General , 24.07.2013

    According to FCC extensive tests revealed that PS4 will run “cooler” than PS3 between 5 and 35 Celsius. Im starting to wonder if all high end computer hardcore and not so hardcore users started to use more Water cooling solutions. Why PS4 discarded that idea?.
    Plus FCC also measured that PS4′s maximum clock efficiency at 2.75GHz.

    To quote:

     

    Sony‘s PlayStation 4 will run at a significantly cooler temperature than the PlayStation 3, making it less likely to overheat.

    Extensive testing by US government agency the FCC has revealed that the console will run at between 5 and 35 degrees Celsius, compared to its predecessor’s average of between 45 and 55.

    The system will weigh in lighter than the original model of the PS3 at 2.8kg, with the older console weighing 5kg, Engadget reports.

    However, it weighs slightly more than the latest slimline model of the PS3, which ranks at 2.1kg.

    The FCC’s consumer arm also measured the PS4′s maximum clock efficiency at 2.75GHz.

     

    [Source] = Digitalspy

    Discuss in Forums (26)


  • 26 Comments

    1. ylpkm
      07-24-2013
      08:17 PM
      1

      35 C cooler than the ps3... so lets say 80-35=45C... to see a 45 C idle temp would be awesome...

    2. Bigbones87
      07-24-2013
      08:25 PM
      2

      What ps3 ran at 45-55�c?. I just opened up a brand new 2501B slim out the box, plug it in. 20 minutes on mulitman dashboard, and the temps were 62�c on both chips. Maybe the new super slims?

    3. hellsing9
      07-24-2013
      08:27 PM
      3

      Originally Posted by Bigbones87
      What ps3 ran at 45-55�c?. I just opened up a brand new 2501B slim out the box, plug it in. 20 minutes on mulitman dashboard, and the temps were 62�c on both chips. Maybe the new super slims?
      Probably but think that FCC make some big stress tests.

    4. Thelostdeathknight
      07-24-2013
      08:54 PM
      4

      I for one would like to know how it's hitting those clocks.. I'd imagine it is using AMD turbo boost **** which means at those frequencies you have only half the cpu cores available

    5. Bigbones87
      07-24-2013
      08:55 PM
      5

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Probably but think that FCC make some big stress tests.
      Exactly.....so there predecessor wouldn't run on that low of temp, because that's the ps3 they are talking about, and they are stress testing them, which would make them run even hotter than just sitting on the dash. On average 40�c-55�c...? They got their numbers wrong there.

    6. hellsing9
      07-24-2013
      08:58 PM
      6

      Originally Posted by Thelostdeathknight
      I for one would like to know how it's hitting those clocks.. I'd imagine it is using AMD turbo boost **** which means at those frequencies you have only half the cpu cores available
      Yes. Indeed there's no other way around on this one.
      So they keeping what's left of raw power if something or some game will demand it.

      Maybe it's a good step to avoid changing hardware or release another PS4 2.0 because they got short on power.

      Originally Posted by Bigbones87
      Exactly.....so there predecessor wouldn't run on that low of temp, because that's the ps3 they are talking about, and they are stress testing them, which would make them run even hotter than just sitting on the dash. On average 40�c-55�c...? They got their numbers wrong there.
      I don't know tbh how they perform those stress test.
      If they do it with the PS3 open and with a nice flow of air in a open room...could be gullible.
      They only know..maybe the got bad readings or the info about those temps is wrong or what i've said above.

      We don't know how they test them. I mean i can think in any scenario like almost not ventilation at all or closed spaces..
      Your guess is good as mine.

      It's like when you test all PC compents outside the case. You will get (if it's not summer or too hot on your room) good readings even best readings in winter.
      And another things is to stress test your computer with in the case with different coolers and with the airflow changed because it's in the case.

    7. Thelostdeathknight
      07-24-2013
      09:03 PM
      7

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Yes. Indeed there's no other way around on this one.
      So they keeping what's left of raw power if something or some game will demand it.

      Maybe it's a good step to avoid changing hardware or release another PS4 2.0 because they got short on power.

      With most games just barely getting to using a quad core efficiently it would be the way to go until games get further along with being multi-threaded beyond quad cores at which point more multi-threading and optimization would allow for use of more cores at lower clocks. BUT if the ps4 can do it i'll put money on xbox one having similiar tricks up it's sleeve

    8. hellsing9
      07-24-2013
      09:07 PM
      8

      Originally Posted by Thelostdeathknight
      With most games just barely getting to using a quad core efficiently it would be the way to go until games get further along with being multi-threaded beyond quad cores at which point more multi-threading and optimization would allow for use of more cores at lower clocks. BUT if the ps4 can do it i'll put money on xbox one having similiar tricks up it's sleeve
      Remember those phenom I 3 cores 8450? with a the forth one that if you got lucky and with a good mobo you could unlock it.
      Where here we have a similar situation..(at least for me).

      Lower clocks also means = lower temp.
      Some underclocking maybe and no doubt that both have more tricks under their sleeves after all it's more computer-like than a console unit.

    9. Thelostdeathknight
      07-24-2013
      09:12 PM
      9

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Remember those phenom I 3 cores 8450? with a the forth one that if you got lucky and with a good mobo you could unlock it.
      Where here we have a similar situation..(at least for me).

      Lower clocks also means = lower temp.
      Some underclocking maybe and no doubt that both have more tricks under their sleeves after all it's more computer-like than a console unit.
      just look at what AMD's APUs have up their sleeve and you'll see what tricks these consoles will have, they will be modified a bit but mainly the same

    10. Bigbones87
      07-24-2013
      09:16 PM
      10

      I hear ya [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]. I wasn't challenging your statements or anything, so hope you didn't take it that way. . Just debating is all..... The temps seemed low to me is all, but like you said, who knows what/where/how they tested to get one temps.

    11. hellsing9
      07-24-2013
      09:19 PM
      11

      Originally Posted by Bigbones87
      I hear ya [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]. I wasn't challenging your statements or anything, so hope you didn't take it that way. . Just debating is all....
      hahaha please man!! how i can argue with you?. I can "argue"..(if i can call it that way) those ones making fake accounts. Not you.
      It's a debate and you are more than welcome sorry if my post sound like a ****** and if you feel i went too far. (my broken-english sometimes sound like my spanish...) just let me know.

      Though i will do some research about how FCC make those tests.

      Sorry again man if i sounded rude or something
      It's was not meant to be like that.

    12. Bigbones87
      07-24-2013
      09:35 PM
      12

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      /snip
      no, you didn't come off as rude. I thought I was. . And don't worry about your broken English. I grew up in a house full of El Salvadorians, so broken English is a language I speak fairly well.

    13. hellsing9
      07-24-2013
      09:52 PM
      13

      FCC Tests TV Channels for Wi-Fi Use - YouTube

      Random FCC test [MENTION=233168]Bigbones87[/MENTION]

    14. noonzascript
      07-25-2013
      12:08 AM
      14

      I was reading on neogaf where many people were stating that the FCC operating temperature refers to the ambient temperature of which you should maintain in your household for the PS4 to operate 'properly'.

      Correct me if I'm wrong though.

    15. hellsing9
      07-25-2013
      01:03 AM
      15

      Originally Posted by noonzascript
      I was reading on neogaf where many people were stating that the FCC operating temperature refers to the ambient temperature of which you should maintain in your household for the PS4 to operate 'properly'.

      Correct me if I'm wrong though.
      Maybe.
      But what i said that among those stress tests or many tests. I think they could make some test with the PS4 (in this case) without the case = Naked.

      Ambient temperature has to be tested in order to see how much heat the device could get until get's damaged.
      Or the contrary how much cold until is ruined.

    16. Cheesethief
      07-25-2013
      02:06 AM
      16

      Are we sure they are saying these results are better than PS3 slim 4k results or better than say the old fatty ps3s?

      Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

    17. ICECOLDKILLAH
      07-25-2013
      02:51 AM
      17

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Extensive testing by US government agency the FCC has revealed that the console will run at between 5 and 35 degrees Celsius, compared to its predecessor's average of between 45 and 55.
      they must have some ultra hightechz special watercooled version of the ps3

    18. hellsing9
      07-25-2013
      03:31 AM
      18

      Originally Posted by ICECOLDKILLAH
      they must have some ultra hightechz special watercooled version of the ps3
      No doubt about it.

      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      Are we sure they are saying these results are better than PS3 slim 4k results or better than say the old fatty ps3s?

      Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
      Fatty PS3's. No reason to make some comparision with 4K's. (Bad for business)

    19. zecoxao
      07-25-2013
      07:07 AM
      19

      wtf? didn't [MENTION=131344]euss[/MENTION] say that was the AMBIENT temperature the system was running at? (5�C-35�C)

      oh well...

    20. sandungas
      07-26-2013
      11:30 AM
      20

      Originally Posted by FCC
      Extensive testing by US government agency the FCC has revealed that the console will run at between 5 and 35 degrees Celsius, compared to its predecessor's average of between 45 and 55.
      LOOOOOL, this is the bigger bullsh1t published ever

      So they states that ps3 was 55� ?... the fan speed values(in hexadecimal) stored inside syscon proves this is completly false, PS3 is designed to work with a minimal of around 60�
      After 60� the syscon starts to change the fan values a bit more "aggresive"... but is obviously it was designed to work over 60�... and everybody knows is bigger in the practise (at least people with a CFW or the ones that spent his time in making temperature tests with sensors)

      This guys at the FCC needs to install a CFW :P


      Ohh, and PS4 is supposed to be 35� under ?... LOLOLOL
      Well, this can be posible, but only if you count the PS3 temperature as 80�... then 80�-35�=45�

      45� can be achievable (we will see, but i doubt it)... but take in account that we are in summer, and in summer the temperatures are around 20� higher than in winter

      So they has this values at summer ?... and they say PS3 was 55� and they reduced 35�... this is 20�... if we rest the difference with winter we are in 0�
      I only can TROLOLOL hard

    21. parminder_11
      07-26-2013
      04:40 PM
      21

      The ps4 will be much more heat efficient, running at 28nm fabrication process with the cpu+gpu combined. So it will produce much less heat then the original phat ps3s with 90nm seperate cpu and gpu, the original consoles would perhaps reach say 70� so 35� to 35� is feasible. Although it is most likely that these statistics are slightly exaggerated, max load I would say the ps4 will run between 60� to 50�.

    22. synce
      07-27-2013
      06:24 AM
      22

      That's operating temp, meaning that's the temp of the room, not the PS4 itself. PS3's CPU/GPU run at like 70C. Whoever originally posted this knows nothing about computers, it's impossible to have a CPU running at 5C

    23. Emregullu
      07-27-2013
      11:48 AM
      23

      Good one the PS4!

    24. bammo
      07-27-2013
      12:21 PM
      24

      As soon as I get my two ps4s I'm changing the paste no ps3 fiasco again

    25. ro4eva
      07-29-2013
      03:30 PM
      25

      Considering the PS4's system architecture, I'm somewhat excited to see what sort of mods will be available going forward.

      For example, if somehow possible, I'd love to attempt to watercool the Jaguar (if the stock fan starts to sound like a vacuum cleaner).

      Remember how mod-able the original Xbox was?

      Once upon a time, I was the proud owner of a Halo Special Edition transparent green Xbox with an Xecuter LCD Screen fitted into the right side above controller ports 3 and 4. It displayed everything from what game I was playing, to what song I was listening to, to the DVD I was watching. Plus a 300gb HDD inside full of games/apps/homebrew/music/videos/pictures/etc.

      I don't remember who I sold it too, but I seriously regret it now.

    26. Danny_Harris
      08-07-2013
      01:40 PM
      26

      ssuming that they do it with the Ps3 open and with a superb stream of air in an open room...could be guileless.

      They just know..maybe the got terrible readings or the insight about those temps is wrong or what i've said above.

      I mean i can think in any situation like just about not ventilation whatsoever or shut spaces..