• PS3 Legal (Sony) , 29.08.2013

     

     

    A High price and 15-month gap between Xbox 360 to blame, Say’s Sony UK MD.

     

    PlayStation 3 “didn’t do quite as well as it should have” in the UK, Fergal Gara has told VideoGamer.com, explaining that the high price and 15-month gap between the launch of PS3 and Xbox 360 may have impacted the console’s chances of success.

    Asked during Gamescom whether he thought Sony could reclaim market share in the UK with the arrival of PlayStation 4, Gara said, “If it was all about day one then the answer would probably be yes.

    “The truth is it’s a long game. Let’s not forget that PS3 launched a long time after Xbox 360 and didn’t do quite as well as it should have done. But from being so far behind on timing and on pricing it’s delivered quite respectably despite all of that.”

    PS3 launched in the UK on March 23, 2007 for £425, four months after its initial Japanese launch and fifteen months after the Xbox 360 arrived in the UK.

    PlayStation 3 hardware and software has been consistently outsold by the Xbox 360 equivalent in the UK. However, it was reported by MCV earlier this month that PS3 hardware had been outselling Xbox 360 over the course of the summer – largely down to the launch of The Last of Us.

    Nevertheless, Gara seems confident that PS4 will go some way to boosting Sony’s slice of the UK market.

    “We’re very conscious that it’s a long game,” he continues, “we’re very satisfied that we’re doing very, very well right now, but we’re also not getting carried away with ourselves, not getting in any way over-excited. It is a several year project. It doesn’t start and finish on November 29. That’s an important date but it is the start date.”

    PlayStation 4 launches in the UK on November 29. The console has already reached over 1 million pre-orders.

     

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  • 18 Comments

    1. Annelies
      08-29-2013
      04:11 PM
      1

      A lot of money was wasted on the Cell.

    2. Persian McLovin
      08-29-2013
      04:11 PM
      2

      Totally agree...from their perspective.

      From a gamer's perspective, it is one of the greatest consoles ever created with both its exclusive and even non-exclusive library in conjunction with its multimedia capabilities.

      Also for the record IMHO the original 60GB PS3 is the greatest console ever.

    3. Loading
      08-29-2013
      04:51 PM
      3

      Originally Posted by Persian McLovin
      Totally agree...from their perspective.

      From a gamer's perspective, it is one of the greatest consoles ever created with both its exclusive and even non-exclusive library in conjunction with its multimedia capabilities.

      Also for the record IMHO the original 60GB PS3 is the greatest console ever.
      Definitely would have to agree. It was as good as a gaming machine as it was as an entertainment center.

    4. hellsing9
      08-29-2013
      05:43 PM
      4

      I think Fergal is being very talkative even if he is right in some point. Which i find a little weird from his side...

    5. ashtonx
      08-29-2013
      05:50 PM
      5

      It's not like sony has to do much right now, ms and nintendo are pretty much destroying themselves, sony on the other hand had a hard battle this generation and got quite experience in trying to bring gamers that are bit more core than avarage soccermom and her parents to its side.

      I don't think it's gonna be an easy start though, lack of backwards compatibility is going to be a ***** for both sides, however it might hit sony more since let's be honest everything that's worth playing on x360 is a multiplatform or on pc.

      Then there's kinnect, which ms seems to market quite well towards casuals.

      But that's that, most core gamers are prolly leaning towards ps4 since they kept releasing nice exclusives for a few generations already... that and ms and nintendo really pissed off gamers with their politics recently.

      Originally Posted by Persian McLovin
      Totally agree...from their perspective.

      From a gamer's perspective, it is one of the greatest consoles ever created with both its exclusive and even non-exclusive library in conjunction with its multimedia capabilities.
      From gamers perspective ps2 is best console in history, second would prolly be snes.
      ps3 is great but i think ps2 was sony's best time. I guess the fact that most japanese game devs studios got reatrded and didn't manage to keep up with rest of the world might be the reason.

    6. BobbyBangin
      08-29-2013
      05:55 PM
      6

      Originally Posted by Persian McLovin
      Totally agree...from their perspective.

      From a gamer's perspective, it is one of the greatest consoles ever created with both its exclusive and even non-exclusive library in conjunction with its multimedia capabilities.

      Also for the record IMHO the original 60GB PS3 is the greatest console ever.
      I agree for the most part. I'm not sure about the greatest console ever. It was greatly debilitated from what it could be. It still was an amazing console for it's time, despite having Sony enact some of it's most ruthless policies to date. I think it's definitely the best Sony console to date.

    7. Persian McLovin
      08-29-2013
      06:07 PM
      7

      Originally Posted by ashtonx
      From gamers perspective ps2 is best console in history, second would prolly be snes.
      ps3 is great but i think ps2 was sony's best time. I guess the fact that most japanese game devs studios got reatrded and didn't manage to keep up with rest of the world might be the reason.
      Exactly, that's why I said the original 60GB is the greatest console ever simply because it plays PS1, PS2 and PS3 games out-of-the-box.

      Originally Posted by BobbyBangin
      I agree for the most part. I'm not sure about the greatest console ever. It was greatly debilitated from what it could be. It still was an amazing console for it's time, despite having Sony enact some of it's most ruthless policies to date. I think it's definitely the best Sony console to date.
      I agree with you, but that's why I said that the original launch model has got to be the best console to date out-of-the-box with regards to PS1/PS2/PS3 playback, Blu-ray, other OS, card readers, 4 USB ports, wi-fi, HDMI all in 2006 and to top it all off...it looks absolutely fantastic aesthetically.

      The other models? Eh, not so much...

    8. stussy1
      08-29-2013
      06:12 PM
      8

      Originally Posted by Persian McLovin
      Exactly, that's why I said the original 60GB is the greatest console ever simply because it plays PS1, PS2 and PS3 games out-of-the-box.



      I agree with you, but that's why I said that the original launch model has got to be the best console to date out-of-the-box with regards to PS1/PS2/PS3 playback, Blu-ray, other OS, card readers, 4 USB ports, wi-fi, HDMI all in 2006 and to top it all off...it looks absolutely fantastic aesthetically.

      The other models? Eh, not so much...

      True but how much was it worth back in the days i no here in aus was
      like $1000

    9. Persian McLovin
      08-29-2013
      06:19 PM
      9

      Originally Posted by stussy1
      True but how much was it worth back in the days i no here in aus was
      like $1000
      Totally agree bro, it launched in the UK with a price-tag (with inflation taken into account) at almost $900 and in addition to that it was a butchered version (PS2 compatibility-wise) of the ones released in Japan and the US.

    10. Simonbuck
      08-29-2013
      06:37 PM
      10

      It cost Sony around $840 to build a PS3 and yet it was sold at $599, which still appeared to make it an expensive choice of console. What’s worse is that the cheaper of the PS3 consoles made an even larger loss as the difference in tech cost was around $11 in the form of extra storage. There were three ways in creating all this additional cost and they were:

      ‘Reality Synthesizer’ to handle the PS3 graphics at $129 per chip.
      Blu-Ray when Blu-Ray still cost fortune at $125 per unit.
      Their custom CPU at $89 per unit.

      This culminated in the grand total loss of $3.5bn (apparently) but I wonder if that was a cost they could afford. Sony is known for offsetting losses with gains made in other sectors; in fact they all probably do it. Getting people hooked onto a console is a great way of gaining a new loyalty and then cross-selling accessories, and games and other add-ons.

    11. bigo93
      08-29-2013
      06:42 PM
      11

      The 15 months had nothing to do with it, $ony did it to themselves.

      High cost
      Not giving devs enough tools to make games, increasing cost
      Removing features less than 6 months after release, UK no Emotion chip or card reader, yet still higher price
      Stealing features after 3 years
      Raiding hobbyists' homes under copyright laws
      Piss poor security, on more than one occasion and not just gaming related.
      Peanuts for compensation for all the mistakes they made and laws they broke
      Bricking thousands of consoles due to their bad updates, then charging waht was it, �150 to "fix" it!

      Cant remember what other things they have done, there are just so many that I am surprised that people on this site, even knowing what $ony have done, still are going to LEASE the PS4.

      Oh there's another one:
      Changing the TOS so frequently
      Changing the TOS to highlight that you never buy anything, you lease everything.
      Forcing people into an opt-out "you cant sue us" clause!

    12. tenoob
      08-29-2013
      06:49 PM
      12

      Originally Posted by Persian McLovin
      Totally agree...from their perspective.

      From a gamer's perspective, it is one of the greatest consoles ever created with both its exclusive and even non-exclusive library in conjunction with its multimedia capabilities.

      Also for the record IMHO the original 60GB PS3 is the greatest console ever.
      My CECHA01 is most deff a champ, so I completley agree with your comment.

    13. theJ3STeR
      08-29-2013
      07:52 PM
      13

      I have 3 CECHA01s all broke

      BaileysCream has seen one...

      And Khaled in the US has seen one...

      It saddens me

      I pray to them on my knees at their shrine every night hoping they'll one day... BootAgain!

      Till then...

    14. ashtonx
      08-30-2013
      02:34 AM
      14

      Originally Posted by bigo93
      Cant remember what other things they have done, there are just so many that I am surprised that people on this site, even knowing what $ony have done, still are going to LEASE the PS4.

      And it looks like sony learned their lesson, now it seems like ms and n are going to make the very same mistakes sony did.

      Oh and don't forget product quality
      ps2 lasers kept breaking like mad.

      Remember lik-sang ? They were a shop selling asian hw and soft outside japan. They got destroyed by sony's lawsuits since they had the guts to sell japanese psp model outside japan, and in beginning japanese model had way better quality insides than outside jp models.

      To be honest all that made me wait untill now with buying ps3.

      Problem is sony seems to be realizing how much they ****ed, they admit it. On the other hand it looks like their competition is leaning towards repeating sony mistakes.


      I still don't trust sony but for whatever it's worth I really hope they woke up and changed enough. What alternatives in console market do I have ? MS which completely looks down on gamers ? Or Nintendo who is too busy making hw for 6 year olds to actually care about gamers.

    15. advocatusdiaboli
      08-30-2013
      02:53 AM
      15

      They totally have not measured the lack of trust in the product after they removed the Linux feature and the 2 USB ports.

    16. clucker99
      06-07-2014
      06:44 PM
      16

      Ya the first is always the best it seems . Something about it the slims were lacking besides Linus and looks



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    17. clucker99
      06-07-2014
      06:47 PM
      17

      Originally Posted by theJ3STeR
      I have 3 CECHA01s all broke

      BaileysCream has seen one...

      And Khaled in the US has seen one...

      It saddens me

      I pray to them on my knees at their shrine every night hoping they'll one day... BootAgain!

      Till then...

      I might have a s


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    18. crazelunatic
      06-07-2014
      09:16 PM
      18

      I miss having yellow dog linux on it. Sure me and it was very limited but i felt a great sense of accomplishment doing school reports on my machine and actually hooking up my printer and getting things to print from it. I still have the mgs4 u.s. bundle which i brought from a store in Memphis. Got it for 399 used but its still going strong till this day This was back in 09.