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    Simplicity v2.58.3
    A Simple Kind of Loader
    Brought to you by @stephencapes 


    Simplicity is a modified version of the well known backup loaded “Iris Manager”. The source version I started with is v2.58 by Estwald. The main reason for this fork was to simplify the GUI and make it look a little more polished. This is my first PS3 Homebrew release so go easy on me and let me know area’s I could improve.


    Changes from Iris Manager to Simplicity v2.58:
    -Background colors have been removed, leaving a simple black.
    -Music has been completely removed.
    -Date, Time, Temp, and Device Space has also been removed.
    -In cover flow mode game sorting by console has been removed.
    -FTP Icon’s color has been changed
    -Other minor GUI changes were made.
    -Navigation controls have been altered ( “X” is accept, “O” is back, “Triangle” is game settings, “Square” is not used, “Select” is global settings “, “Start” is not used )
    The rest stayed the same.


    Changes for Simplicity v2.58.1
    -added back the USB overlay


    Changes for Simplicity v2.58.3
    -removed game config icons (Direct Boot & Requires Disc) from game selection
    -made adjustments to the grammar throughout…
    -removed unnecessary notifications
    -removed the “Favorites” function
    -changed the font to the default PS3 font
    -added support for DEX versions 4.41, 4.46, and 4.50
    -cleaned up some of the coding and changed version to 2.58.3 (2.58.2 was a beta for DEX support)

    Other changes will be coming…


    Download Link:

    It is recommend to remove any old version before installing this version!!!
    http://www.mediafire.com/folder/egrv…08u/Simplicity

    Source Code:

    https://github.com/stephencapes/simplicity


    Screenshot Gallery


    Thanks you for everyones support!!

    Discuss in Forums (69)


  • 69 Comments

    1. DEFAULTDNB
      10-30-2013
      05:48 AM
      1

      Sounds promising, but where are the demonstrative (of its simplicity) screen shots?!?!

    2. stephencapes
      10-30-2013
      05:52 AM
      2

      Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB
      Sounds promising, but where are the demonstrative (of its simplicity) screen shots?!?!
      I don't have the set at the moment to take screenshots... or I would

    3. RCFProd
      10-30-2013
      05:58 AM
      3

      Sounds good. I will actually give Iris Manager a try if you make it with a nice simple effect. My CFW and all is also about simplicity, so a backup manager which looks simple too would be nice actually. Or maybe a background that we can change by ourselves?

    4. stephencapes
      10-30-2013
      06:19 AM
      4

      give it a shot and tell me what ya think...

    5. TheSavage
      10-30-2013
      07:37 AM
      5

      Nice to see a fork of Iris with the source released, unlike others I've seen. Good job!

      Sent from my X909

    6. LoboGuara
      10-30-2013
      07:59 AM
      6

      I'm the type of person who likes minimalist stuff and quite liked this fork (its pretty fast).

      Tested on MLT 4.50, no problems so far.

      Screenshots are unnecessary, since is the same interface (iris / ita / evilnat) that we already know. Anyway...





      Edit: @stephencapes

      Constructive criticism: Removing the flashing USB/HD icon from the game icons was not a good idea. As you can see in the picture above, I have two identical GTAV icons and have no idea which one is on the internal

    7. DEFAULTDNB
      10-30-2013
      08:32 AM
      7

      Thanks for the screens [MENTION=208881]LoboGuara[/MENTION], definitely better to be able to see whats been changed.

      Looks neat

    8. hellsing9
      10-30-2013
      09:37 AM
      8

      Fixed [MENTION=224021]DEFAULTDNB[/MENTION]. Added "Read more" to main thread. After all is Op's credit or just merge it later. Being colorblind with this new *colors* is a *new nightmare* for me. [MENTION=282137]stephencapes[/MENTION] I didn't have time to test it, yet. That's why i didn't reply to your PM. I will test it later when i'm over my place and give some proper feedback but so far [MENTION=208881]LoboGuara[/MENTION] done it.

    9. Gazra
      10-30-2013
      09:48 AM
      9

      Sadly this is not working on DEX 4.50 still getting an error (Error: Unsupported firmware!)

      Looks like I will be stuck with PS3ita Manager until a backup manager I like is made compatible nice effort though this is what I would prefer simple is better.

    10. stephencapes
      10-30-2013
      10:22 AM
      10

      Thanks everyone... [MENTION=208881]LoboGuara[/MENTION] - I see what ya mean... I will add the usb icon back as soon as I get a chance.... and thanks for posting the screen shots

    11. poorguy
      10-30-2013
      11:16 AM
      11

      Its a lot smooth.. No lag.. and minimilistic.. +1

    12. stephencapes
      10-30-2013
      12:28 PM
      12

      Updated to v2.58.1

      -Added back the USB overlay

    13. LoboGuara
      10-30-2013
      12:45 PM
      13

      Thanks for the update [MENTION=282137]stephencapes[/MENTION]!

    14. stephencapes
      10-30-2013
      01:15 PM
      14

      Just edited OP with a link to the screen shot gallery...

    15. DEFAULTDNB
      10-30-2013
      02:58 PM
      15

      Front page updated

    16. sandungas
      10-30-2013
      03:34 PM
      16

      I been using iris some months ago and i think i will keep using it, but i really like the concept of simplicity manager, and i think some of your changes will be added (or removed if you like, hehee) in the official iris in long term

      Frst i have to say the button mapping is perfect (same than XMB and the rest of the firmware)... X=accept, O=cancell(or back), and triangle=options
      In the official iris thread there was some talk about this button mapping, not sure if you have taked care of it... but you have to add compatibility with japanese button layout (X and O functions replaced, and triangle the same)
      The same library that is used originally to read the "datetime zone" from xregistry.sys is also used to read this "button layour setting"... this is something that is better to not remove to keep compatibility with japanese users

      And about things that can be removed:
      --------------------------------------------------------
      -Fan controll
      I use fan controll all the time, but in long term it will be needed to remove it (probably there will be other ways to control the fan, e.g: with a plugin.sprx)

      -USB wakeup functions
      Is part of the same payload that makes the fancontroll function... by removing it you can disable the payload completly. There is people that really needs this functions (because they uses external HDD that enters in inactivity after some time without read requests)... but is also posible to covert this to a plugin.sprx

      -Warning message at boot time (remember you have to plug an USB drive... etc... etc... )
      This message is only valid for some users, actually... if you have all the games in internal HDD, and your "device_ID" has been recorded by the app previously (in the first boot, or because the app contains your identifyer hardcoded).... then there is no need to plug an USB device at all... so this warning message is warning about a thing the user of this example doesnt needs to care. And is adding a delay of 2 or 3 seconds in the boot time

      -Informative message when returning to XMB after a game has been selected (the BD emu has been mounted in path... etc... etc... etc...)
      This message i think appears when using discless + BDemu from external USB, the message is informative, but in the practise has no importance because there is nothing the user can do with this info, the user doesnt needs to know how is working internally. The message is adding a delay of 2 or 3 seconds when returning to XMB

    17. stephencapes
      10-30-2013
      07:10 PM
      17

      What the heck happened to my OP?

    18. stephencapes
      10-30-2013
      07:13 PM
      18

      Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB
      Front page updated
      Dude I think when you updated the front page you totally wiped out my original post

    19. hellsing9
      10-30-2013
      07:15 PM
      19

      Originally Posted by stephencapes
      Dude I think when you updated the front page you totally wiped out my original post
      Happens, will try to sort it out for you.
      Fixed the best i could, thus when someone edits the article have to left it open the OP post to avoid this from happening.

      Regards.

    20. stephencapes
      10-30-2013
      07:27 PM
      20

      I repaired it... it's alright now! Thanks tho!

    21. hellsing9
      10-30-2013
      07:28 PM
      21

      Originally Posted by stephencapes
      I repaired it... it's alright now! Thanks tho!
      No problemo, any change let me know or just (mention) [MENTION=224021]DEFAULTDNB[/MENTION]

    22. stephencapes
      10-31-2013
      10:42 AM
      22

      will do! thanks hellsing

    23. stephencapes
      10-31-2013
      10:52 AM
      23

      Originally Posted by sandungas
      I been using iris some months ago and i think i will keep using it, but i really like the concept of simplicity manager, and i think some of your changes will be added (or removed if you like, hehee) in the official iris in long term

      Frst i have to say the button mapping is perfect (same than XMB and the rest of the firmware)... X=accept, O=cancell(or back), and triangle=options
      In the official iris thread there was some talk about this button mapping, not sure if you have taked care of it... but you have to add compatibility with japanese button layout (X and O functions replaced, and triangle the same)
      The same library that is used originally to read the "datetime zone" from xregistry.sys is also used to read this "button layour setting"... this is something that is better to not remove to keep compatibility with japanese users

      And about things that can be removed:
      --------------------------------------------------------
      -Fan controll
      I use fan controll all the time, but in long term it will be needed to remove it (probably there will be other ways to control the fan, e.g: with a plugin.sprx)

      -USB wakeup functions
      Is part of the same payload that makes the fancontroll function... by removing it you can disable the payload completly. There is people that really needs this functions (because they uses external HDD that enters in inactivity after some time without read requests)... but is also posible to covert this to a plugin.sprx

      -Warning message at boot time (remember you have to plug an USB drive... etc... etc... )
      This message is only valid for some users, actually... if you have all the games in internal HDD, and your "device_ID" has been recorded by the app previously (in the first boot, or because the app contains your identifyer hardcoded).... then there is no need to plug an USB device at all... so this warning message is warning about a thing the user of this example doesnt needs to care. And is adding a delay of 2 or 3 seconds in the boot time

      -Informative message when returning to XMB after a game has been selected (the BD emu has been mounted in path... etc... etc... etc...)
      This message i think appears when using discless + BDemu from external USB, the message is informative, but in the practise has no importance because there is nothing the user can do with this info, the user doesnt needs to know how is working internally. The message is adding a delay of 2 or 3 seconds when returning to XMB
      Thanks for all the awesome input... this really does give me useful information to move forward with. [MENTION=202964]sandungas[/MENTION]

    24. samson
      10-31-2013
      11:57 AM
      24

      good job small suggestion a font change would look good, maybe use same as ps3?

      \dev_flash\bdplayer\bdjstack\SCE-PS3-RD-R-LATIN.TTF

    25. LoboGuara
      10-31-2013
      02:27 PM
      25

      @samson Not sure if works with Simplicity and other forks, but using Iris you can place a font.ttf file into Iris folder to use custom fonts

    26. stephencapes
      10-31-2013
      02:41 PM
      26

      Would anyone be will to test a beta release... I added support for DEX 4.41, 4.46, 4.50...just let me know

    27. stephencapes
      10-31-2013
      02:44 PM
      27

      Originally Posted by samson
      good job small suggestion a font change would look good, maybe use same as ps3?

      \dev_flash\bdplayer\bdjstack\SCE-PS3-RD-R-LATIN.TTF
      sounds like a plan

    28. stephencapes
      10-31-2013
      02:44 PM
      28

      Originally Posted by LoboGuara
      @samson Not sure if works with Simplicity and other forks, but using Iris you can place a font.ttf file into Iris folder to use custom fonts

      i will have to look into this

    29. stephencapes
      10-31-2013
      02:46 PM
      29

      Originally Posted by Gazra
      Sadly this is not working on DEX 4.50 still getting an error (Error: Unsupported firmware!)

      Looks like I will be stuck with PS3ita Manager until a backup manager I like is made compatible nice effort though this is what I would prefer simple is better.
      If you would like i have created a beta with 4.41, 4.46, and 4.50 DEX support...you could test for me.

    30. Gazra
      10-31-2013
      06:04 PM
      30

      Originally Posted by stephencapes
      If you would like i have created a beta with 4.41, 4.46, and 4.50 DEX support...you could test for me.
      Sure I would love to test for you bud. I really want to break away from PS3ita manager because I prefer simpler things :D

    31. stephencapes
      10-31-2013
      07:01 PM
      31

      [MENTION=206606]Gazra[/MENTION] If you go to the downloads, there is a beta version in there give it a try.

    32. samson
      10-31-2013
      07:39 PM
      32

      Originally Posted by LoboGuara
      Not sure if works with Simplicity and other forks, but using Iris you can place a font.ttf file into Iris folder to use custom fonts

      what do you name the font, font.ttf? and in USRDIR?

      EDIT: got it root game folder and font.ttf - works but hardly notice with ps3 font.

    33. LoboGuara
      10-31-2013
      08:09 PM
      33

      Originally Posted by samson
      what do you name the font, font.ttf? and in USRDIR?
      yes, just rename the desired font to font.ttf and put it into iris folder (not in USRDIR)

      dev_hdd0/IMANAGER4/font.ttf

    34. stephencapes
      10-31-2013
      09:54 PM
      34

      Has anyone had a chance to test out the DEX version yet? If so please give me some feedback. Thanks!

    35. samson
      11-01-2013
      06:02 AM
      35

      Originally Posted by LoboGuara
      yes, just rename the desired font to font.ttf and put it into iris folder (not in USRDIR)

      dev_hdd0/IMANAGER4/font.ttf
      yeah got it buddy, hows about this font?
      http://famousfonts.org/download-font/playstation-font/
      classy, recognizable and looks good but a bit small.

      also [MENTION=282137]stephencapes[/MENTION] i dont know if your button config will make sense with the archive manager help screen.

      edit: it works fine just tested... i'll have a play with the param.sfo btw you can edit inside Iris/Simplicity edit and restart to see changes.

    36. stephencapes
      11-01-2013
      07:28 AM
      36

      Originally Posted by samson
      yeah got it buddy, hows about this font?
      http://famousfonts.org/download-font/playstation-font/
      classy, recognizable and looks good but a bit small.

      also [MENTION=282137]stephencapes[/MENTION] i dont know if your button config will make sense with the archive manager help screen.

      edit: it works fine just tested... i'll have a play with the param.sfo btw you can edit inside Iris/Simplicity edit and restart to see changes.
      I have already implemented the font changes, also cleaned up some other stuff, yea the controls don't affect archive manager or fan control. I've also removed so different prompt screens and fixed the grammer of others. I have not released the package or the source yet, because I am waiting for feed back in regards to dex support. What exactly are you hoping to achieve from playing with the param.sfo, I already have it set for the app.

    37. samson
      11-01-2013
      08:26 AM
      37

      i was thinking maybe disable in game xmb but with remote play because ps1 games overlays two screens when ps button is pressed, ps1's config screen and xmb. it looks better but it disables screenshots on ps1 games.. that doesn't work anyway because of the overlay.


      if you want to try its 11 00 00 00 three dots after the version number in hex.


      Durr, also disables screenshots in Simplicity .. lol, i'll go back to licking the rain from peoples windows..

    38. Gazra
      11-01-2013
      09:47 AM
      38

      [MENTION=282137]stephencapes[/MENTION] I am testing the beta now sorry was looking on hax instead of mediafire haha.

      Will let you no how this pans out very soon thanks for the beta version of the DEX.

      Notes:------

      I am on 4.50 DEX PS3ita and it loads great and mounts the game to both the App_Home and BD that is inserted.

      Games are all running fine tested PS3 backups and also PSX backups and they both work fantastic no problems at all no stuttering or lag is present.

      Frame rates are all great for the PSX backups.

      All games tested are listed here.

      PS3:

      Deadpool
      Assassins Creed Black Flag
      BO2
      BO
      Duke Nukem Forever
      Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit

      PSX

      Dino Crisis & 2
      Crash Bandicoot 1, 2 & 3
      Spyro the Dragon
      Metal Gear Solid

      So amazing work it is flawless thanks so much for this :D

    39. samson
      11-01-2013
      10:07 AM
      39

      yeah i get good audio on ps1netemu and 480p but sounds a little slow.

    40. stephencapes
      11-01-2013
      11:04 AM
      40

      sweet good to hear... working on everything now to repost the updates

    41. stephencapes
      11-01-2013
      12:36 PM
      41

      [MENTION=224021]DEFAULTDNB[/MENTION] OP has been updated to version 2.58.3, source code has also been updated. The main changes are listed, but one thing to note is that DEX 4.41, 4.46, and 4.50 is now support! [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]

    42. hellsing9
      11-01-2013
      01:54 PM
      42

      Originally Posted by stephencapes
      [MENTION=224021]DEFAULTDNB[/MENTION] OP has been updated to version 2.58.3, source code has also been updated. The main changes are listed, but one thing to note is that DEX 4.41, 4.46, and 4.50 is now support! [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION]
      Updated.
      Wordpress managed ONCE again to mess up with <div> if you can add those colors. Sorry for that..

      Regards.

    43. JaKeToO
      11-01-2013
      03:23 PM
      43

      [MENTION=282137]stephencapes[/MENTION] is it possible to get rid of the sun icons in the background?

    44. stephencapes
      11-01-2013
      06:44 PM
      44

      Originally Posted by JaKeToO
      [MENTION=282137]stephencapes[/MENTION] is it possible to get rid of the sun icons in the background?
      That is on my to do list.... The family and I just got back in from Trick or Treating... we netted 10.25 POUNDS of Candy!!.... Woohoo!!

    45. stephencapes
      11-01-2013
      06:45 PM
      45

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Updated.
      Wordpress managed ONCE again to mess up with <div> if you can add those colors. Sorry for that..

      Regards.
      Yea I will straighten it back up, not a problem!!

    46. JaKeToO
      11-01-2013
      07:13 PM
      46

      Originally Posted by stephencapes
      That is on my to do list.... The family and I just got back in from Trick or Treating... we netted 10.25 POUNDS of Candy!!.... Woohoo!!
      lol no hurry, great job, also maybe getting it to check the "GAMES" folder also on external

    47. sandungas
      11-02-2013
      01:32 PM
      47

      Another suggestion, not related with efficiency or simplicity, but mostly to have a bit more order in the installation folders and more modularity...

      You could make some folders inside USRDIR (not a huge tree of folders, but just a couple more) to move all the files that doesnt needs to be in the root of the installation folder, e.g:
      USRDIR/Modules/ <---- for the patched .sprx's, also any other self/bin/app that doesnt belongs to the "core" of the manager (e.g: ftp, filemanager, and fancontroll could be modules and compiled separatedly)
      USRDIR/SettingsGAMES/ <------- only for game settings (easy to make a backup of them incase is needed to uninstall the app and reinstall again)
      USRDIR/SettingsGENERAL/ <---- any other setting, included manager_setup.bin, fancontrol.dat, lastgame, or other files added by the user to customize the manager, like font.ttf, music.mod, etc...


      There are other folders that can be moved (PKG, cache, config, self), but config is replaced by the 2 "settings" folders i said and i dont know what is the use of "self" folder but i guess is replaced by "modules"

    48. RCFProd
      11-02-2013
      02:13 PM
      48

      Originally Posted by stephencapes
      That is on my to do list.... The family and I just got back in from Trick or Treating... we netted 10.25 POUNDS of Candy!!.... Woohoo!!
      Good to see that. One more thing, is there a way we can add a custom background? I know this MIGHT make it less simple but it would give the app a good look while remaining simple.

    49. stephencapes
      11-02-2013
      05:17 PM
      49

      Originally Posted by sandungas
      Another suggestion, not related with efficiency or simplicity, but mostly to have a bit more order in the installation folders and more modularity...

      You could make some folders inside USRDIR (not a huge tree of folders, but just a couple more) to move all the files that doesnt needs to be in the root of the installation folder, e.g:
      USRDIR/Modules/ <---- for the patched .sprx's, also any other self/bin/app that doesnt belongs to the "core" of the manager (e.g: ftp, filemanager, and fancontroll could be modules and compiled separatedly)
      USRDIR/SettingsGAMES/ <------- only for game settings (easy to make a backup of them incase is needed to uninstall the app and reinstall again)
      USRDIR/SettingsGENERAL/ <---- any other setting, included manager_setup.bin, fancontrol.dat, lastgame, or other files added by the user to customize the manager, like font.ttf, music.mod, etc...


      There are other folders that can be moved (PKG, cache, config, self), but config is replaced by the 2 "settings" folders i said and i dont know what is the use of "self" folder but i guess is replaced by "modules"
      This would require a massive over haul of the way the source is layed out... it's not out of the question and i agree that it would be useful but it will take time and when completed would be released in a major update...

    50. stephencapes
      11-02-2013
      05:19 PM
      50

      As of right now I am going to leave it as is... I might make some changes so that one could place a png or jpg into a certain and have the file named a certain way and have it look for it and use it...

    51. jaga
      11-03-2013
      02:55 AM
      51

      Why not removed FAN CONTROL????
      Please remove him in next version.

    52. jaga
      11-03-2013
      02:58 AM
      52

      Originally Posted by sandungas
      And about things that can be removed:
      --------------------------------------------------------
      -Fan controll
      I use fan controll all the time, but in long term it will be needed to remove it (probably there will be other ways to control the fan, e.g: with a plugin.sprx)

      -USB wakeup functions
      Is part of the same payload that makes the fancontroll function... by removing it you can disable the payload completly. There is people that really needs this functions (because they uses external HDD that enters in inactivity after some time without read requests)... but is also posible to covert this to a plugin.sprx
      I totally agree with you.
      It's not a "simple" with that.
      Or we need two versions of manager:
      1) without fan control. 2) with fan control. Or super simple mini version - remove all except manager. Users love iris for fake bd emulation.

    53. RCFProd
      11-03-2013
      06:20 AM
      53

      Originally Posted by stephencapes
      As of right now I am going to leave it as is... I might make some changes so that one could place a png or jpg into a certain and have the file named a certain way and have it look for it and use it...
      Thanks.

      By the way is everyone good with the latest update for this backup manager? Mine either shows a black screen or doesn't mount the game at all. I deleted the previous version before installing v2.58.3.

      Nevermind it seems to be working fine now.

    54. stephencapes
      11-03-2013
      11:10 AM
      54

      Originally Posted by RCFProd
      Thanks.

      By the way is everyone good with the latest update for this backup manager? Mine either shows a black screen or doesn't mount the game at all. I deleted the previous version before installing v2.58.3.
      what CFW are you running?

    55. RCFProd
      11-03-2013
      11:12 AM
      55

      Originally Posted by stephencapes
      what CFW are you running?
      You posted it the moment I edited my post, weird lol. I got it working, it just didn't install properly I think? Works fine after re-installing.

    56. stephencapes
      11-03-2013
      11:16 AM
      56

      Originally Posted by jaga
      I totally agree with you.
      It's not a "simple" with that.
      Or we need two versions of manager:
      1) without fan control. 2) with fan control. Or super simple mini version - remove all except manager. Users love iris for fake bd emulation.
      I agree, see I'm running a PS3 Slim that I've lapped the heatsinks and moddified the case to allow a vent right above the fan. My temps stay low with out the need to adjust anything.

    57. stephencapes
      11-03-2013
      03:16 PM
      57

      Originally Posted by RCFProd
      You posted it the moment I edited my post, weird lol. I got it working, it just didn't install properly I think? Works fine after re-installing.
      Glad to hear...

    58. stephencapes
      11-03-2013
      03:19 PM
      58

      For anyone who is interested, I am creating another version without fan control and archive manager... but it will also not have the USB polling / Wakeup ability till i am able to create a plug in for that option only... I will reply back when i get it done... i will need people to test it out before i "Publish" it

    59. aldostools
      11-03-2013
      07:26 PM
      59

      Originally Posted by stephencapes
      For anyone who is interested, I am creating another version without fan control and archive manager... but it will also not have the USB polling / Wakeup ability till i am able to create a plug in for that option only... I will reply back when i get it done... i will need people to test it out before i "Publish" it
      What is the purpose of releasing a software without features that already can be turned off through the settings?

      IMO, your time would be more productive if you ADD features, instead of just take features out.

    60. stephencapes
      11-03-2013
      08:58 PM
      60

      Originally Posted by aldostools
      What is the purpose of releasing a software without features that already can be turned off through the settings?

      IMO, your time would be more productive if you ADD features, instead of just take features out.
      I agree to an extent, and btw I am very fond of your releases. If there was a simple way or even a way in general for the end user to turn off these features or "hide" them then I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing. With the community that utilizes homebrew apps growing everyday, the demand for diversity grows as well. Sometimes users like me enjoy things that are just simple and work. Over my years I have found that sometimes less is better, less functions mean less coding, less coding means less chances for errors or bugs. I personally use FTP for all my file management, so a archive manager is of no use to me and is just taking up head room and is opening my system up to bugs and freezes... same goes for fan control and other features... Not to mention my 3 - 9 year olds use it so... as a parent I KNOW that they will mess around with what they shouldn't. Know what I mean... If someone wants the latest features, then by all mean please give MultiMAN a whirl... This is just something for those who don't... then again this is just my opinion..

    61. aldostools
      11-03-2013
      09:48 PM
      61

      Originally Posted by stephencapes
      I agree to an extent, and btw I am very fond of your releases. If there was a simple way or even a way in general for the end user to turn off these features or "hide" them then I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing. With the community that utilizes homebrew apps growing everyday, the demand for diversity grows as well. Sometimes users like me enjoy things that are just simple and work. Over my years I have found that sometimes less is better, less functions mean less coding, less coding means less chances for errors or bugs. I personally use FTP for all my file management, so a archive manager is of no use to me and is just taking up head room and is opening my system up to bugs and freezes... same goes for fan control and other features... Not to mention my 3 - 9 year olds use it so... as a parent I KNOW that they will mess around with what they shouldn't. Know what I mean... If someone wants the latest features, then by all mean please give MultiMAN a whirl... This is just something for those who don't... then again this is just my opinion..
      Ok, now I understand it better the purpose... I'm also a supporter of KISS principle, "simple is beautiful", "less is more", etc.

      The fan control and file manager are already "hidden" in the configuration menu. According to your poll, 64.71% don't want these features removed.
      And there are more options that probably your kids will also want to try and eventually you will end with more versions removing stuff.

      Wouldn't it more simple just to block the configuration menu? It could ask for a parental code (or give access based on the parental level from the xRegistry.sys), or just change it to a hard combination of buttons... well, these are just ideas.

    62. stephencapes
      11-03-2013
      10:10 PM
      62

      Originally Posted by aldostools
      Ok, now I understand it better the purpose... I'm also a supporter of KISS principle, "simple is beautiful", "less is more", etc.

      The fan control and file manager are already "hidden" in the configuration menu. According to your poll, 64.71% don't want these features removed.
      And there are more options that probably your kids will also want to try and eventually you will end with more versions removing stuff.

      Wouldn't it more simple just to block the configuration menu? It could ask for a parental code (or give access based on the parental level from the xRegistry.sys), or just change it to a hard combination of buttons... well, these are just ideas.
      Exactly, I'm glad you get it now. I'm glad you bring KISS up, here is a little exert from WIKI... "The KISS ("Keep it simple, stupid") principle states that most systems work best if they are kept simple rather than made complex; therefore simplicity should be a key goal in design and unnecessary complexity should be avoided." Hence the title of this fork.. Hiding or even using parental controls still does not lessen the complexity of the source. It still opens it self up for bugs, revisions, and user error. I understand that the poll currently states certain users want the features to remain, so I plan to keep Simplicity but also adapt Simplicity Ultra Lite branch which will be a loader only. I guess you could say "SPOILER ALERT"!!

      I enjoy our conversations [MENTION=100038]aldostools[/MENTION] keep them coming... btw I have not had a chance yet to check but have you update your tools for 4.50? like the game update tool?

    63. aldostools
      11-03-2013
      10:16 PM
      63

      Originally Posted by stephencapes
      btw I have not had a chance yet to check but have you update your tools for 4.50? like the game update tool?
      (simple answer) yes

    64. stephencapes
      11-03-2013
      10:24 PM
      64

      Originally Posted by aldostools
      (simple answer) yes
      lol, sweet... like I said I have always enjoyed your releases...

    65. eks20
      11-30-2013
      09:05 PM
      65

      sorry if not allowed but...... BUMP

    66. stephencapes
      12-04-2013
      12:24 AM
      66

      Bump'ity bump huh... Sorry that I have not released an update lately. I have changed over to some new hardware and haven't re-installed my environment yet to develop with. I have not had a chance to look into it yet... but something I would like to figure out is how exactly ps3netsrv by [MENTION=114607]deank[/MENTION] publishes content information to webman / Multiman... I would love to piggy back off it for cobra 7 / Iris Manager usage ... I personally am using Multiman right now because of the Network streaming ability with ISO's.. perhaps [MENTION=100038]aldostools[/MENTION] can chime in and give any insight he might have....

    67. stephencapes
      12-04-2013
      01:36 AM
      67

      Whelp for the last little bit i have been looking into ps3netsrv / iris manager combo... and i believe i get the feel for it.. [MENTION=100038]aldostools[/MENTION]... if it's alright with you I might take a look at your source and go from there...

    68. aldostools
      12-04-2013
      05:34 PM
      68

      Originally Posted by stephencapes
      Whelp for the last little bit i have been looking into ps3netsrv / iris manager combo... and i believe i get the feel for it.. [MENTION=100038]aldostools[/MENTION]... if it's alright with you I might take a look at your source and go from there...
      I use the ps3netsvr in a binary form... my GUI just wrap it in a Windows application

      However, I think deank posted the src of his modified version some days ago. Try searching in psx-scene

    69. stephencapes
      12-05-2013
      11:08 AM
      69

      Originally Posted by aldostools
      I use the ps3netsvr in a binary form... my GUI just wrap it in a Windows application

      However, I think deank posted the src of his modified version some days ago. Try searching in psx-scene
      yea i saw that he posted the source for webman and ps3netserv so i have messing with it...