• PS3 Hacks, PS4 Hacks , 28.11.2013

    PS3 Dev judges has released a early version of SPIway, which is a flasher for the PS4 and is for dumping MX25L25635FMI-10G, which is the main memory of the PS4, for more information, check the link below and remember, this is a work in progress and not the final release:

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    SPIway - Teensy++ 2.0 SPI flasher for PS4

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  • 62 Comments

    1. DEFAULTDNB
      11-28-2013
      03:34 AM
      1

      Awesome work [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION]!

    2. cfwprpht
      11-28-2013
      03:43 AM
      2

      Well here we go - Kudos to [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION]

    3. zeruel85
      11-28-2013
      03:50 AM
      3

      judges, Da Master!

    4. guerrierodipace
      11-28-2013
      03:51 AM
      4

      We never say enough THANKS to [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION]

    5. 3absiso
      11-28-2013
      04:06 AM
      5


      Great Job [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION]

    6. MJ999
      11-28-2013
      04:27 AM
      6

      Good news and [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION] You are a Legend.

    7. DjKlown
      11-28-2013
      04:38 AM
      7

      Hmmm goodness. Now I didn't read it . But any sort of encrypt on it. I bet there is. And do we know if its half shared with the hdd at all....

    8. NiceShot
      11-28-2013
      04:45 AM
      8

      Thanks, thanks, thanks....

    9. lionsfan420
      11-28-2013
      04:50 AM
      9

      Jeeze, could ya give it a month? I don't even own a PS4 yet! lol
      It might not be nothing, but something. I give it a HELL YEAH!!!

    10. DjKlown
      11-28-2013
      04:57 AM
      10

      After a quick glance at wome stuff. There is some info tjat is also stord on the hdd.. fyi. So is there a working good dump....?????

    11. SMP
      11-28-2013
      05:03 AM
      11

      Originally Posted by DjKlown
      After a quick glance at wome stuff. There is some info tjat is also stord on the hdd.. fyi. So is there a working good dump....?????
      Not seen any get public.

    12. judges
      11-28-2013
      06:36 AM
      12

      Thanks to everyone for the kind words, really appreciate it!

      It should be mentioned that I didn't investigate on-board dumping/flashing, cause I don't have a PS4 yet. But off-board (desoldered chip) works flawlessly...

      -- judges

    13. vb_encryption_vb
      11-28-2013
      07:00 AM
      13

      Awesome, let the madness begin.

    14. bearmon2010
      11-28-2013
      07:54 AM
      14

      Good work, Judge.

      By the way, this is a flasher dongle to me.. is it going to be a jailbreak dongle which PS3 used ? I want to make sure I understand.

    15. Isleofdoom
      11-28-2013
      09:11 AM
      15

      [MENTION=26322]Bear[/MENTION]mon this isn't really a dongle but was used as a dongle in the ps3 scene long time ago. This is used to just dump the ram onboard the system and possible flash your system if it messes up like e3 flasher kind of

    16. bearmon2010
      11-28-2013
      10:38 AM
      16

      Originally Posted by Isleofdoom
      [MENTION=26322]Bear[/MENTION]mon this isn't really a dongle but was used as a dongle in the ps3 scene long time ago. This is used to just dump the ram onboard the system and possible flash your system if it messes up like e3 flasher kind of
      Ahh, I understand now. Thanks. I hope that it will be jailbreak because it is almost PC X86 to me and easily to hack, I think.

    17. Isleofdoom
      11-28-2013
      10:54 AM
      17

      It won't be an easy hack and I'm sure it has some new features that will make it really hard yes it's the old architecture and is like a pc in some ways but will take a long time I'm sure be4 anything like that is done this is just a way of seeing how things work

    18. trulex
      11-28-2013
      11:22 AM
      18

      If you hack ps4 i will buy it.

    19. NoisilySilent
      11-28-2013
      11:25 AM
      19

      Awesome!
      Kudos for this amazing step forward [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION]

    20. Isleofdoom
      11-28-2013
      11:29 AM
      20

      I can't see it happening any time soon and I'm gonna bet the way things work is a lot different than the ps3 aswel as the encryption

    21. bearmon2010
      11-28-2013
      11:34 AM
      21

      Maybe someone can hack PS4 to play PS3 backup games instead ? If someone will, I will buy PS4.

    22. r3l1c
      11-28-2013
      11:52 AM
      22

      Is it mandatory to use Teensy ++ 2.0 ? or could this be loaded onto the old regular teensy ( that makes my 3.41 running homebrew )

    23. tommasi
      11-28-2013
      11:58 AM
      23

      keep in mind. early hack will lead to death of used games!

    24. Isleofdoom
      11-28-2013
      12:20 PM
      24

      HAs anyone confirmed that used ps games work on this as i seen in older posts about them bein able to block older games

    25. rodq
      11-28-2013
      12:56 PM
      25

      Byteblaster (3$) & SPIFlash (free)

    26. maryus1010
      11-28-2013
      01:01 PM
      26

      First step for jailbraking.

    27. euss
      11-28-2013
      01:49 PM
      27

      judges added support for the other 2 8pin serial flash chips too (same pinout), table extended on psdevwiki.com/ps4/

    28. tjhooker73
      11-28-2013
      01:57 PM
      28

      Nioce [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION] hope it works :P

      Sent from my One Xl using Tapatalk

    29. ModderFokker619
      11-28-2013
      02:02 PM
      29

      You are a legend [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION]. Gonna play around with this.

    30. judges
      11-28-2013
      02:16 PM
      30

      Originally Posted by euss
      judges added support for the other 2 8pin serial flash chips too (same pinout), table extended on psdevwiki.com/ps4/
      That's right. MX25L1006E and W25X10CL are now supported as well. Git updated: https://github.com/hjudges/NORway

      -- judges

    31. underwurlde
      11-28-2013
      02:51 PM
      31

      8-pin SOIC or SOP package I hope. Thank GOD for that, no more ar$ing about with 56pin or 48pin TSOP packages and an infinite amount of connections to 0.5mm spaced pins etc etc, blah blah AND a nice and simple SPI interface for nice and simple softwares to read / write. No need for clips either to access in-circuit. Can be done with 3 or 4 clip-probes (as used on logic analyzers and the such like).

      1st simple step but that firmware will be guaranteeably a massive task to 'crack'... unless 'they've' just kept to what they use currently on PS3? who knows...

      Andy

    32. euss
      11-28-2013
      03:24 PM
      32

      That is right, 8SOP and 16SOP serial flash so no more interleaving either

      The content however will be a hard nutt to crack - but with enough comparison material it would make mapping out these things a lot easier.

    33. B7U3 C50SS
      11-28-2013
      03:38 PM
      33

      Okay, so i should have created an account for ps3hax a long time ago but anyway, when i saw this today, I Knew I had to post a comment about it! WOW. If you can't be downgraded to 3.55 is there some likeness of 3.55 you can emulate with the WIP flasher?This SPIway Project has really caught my attention. hmmm possible hacks incoming! If you guys do get something in the likeness of 3.55 cfw to run on an official firmware ps4 it will be amazing. Have at it! just seems so impossible because $ony quickly patches everything..

    34. GregoryRasputin
      11-28-2013
      03:41 PM
      34

      Originally Posted by B7U3 C50SS
      Okay, so i should have created an account for ps3hax a long time ago but anyway, when i saw this today, I Knew I had to post a comment about it! WOW. If you can't be downgraded to 3.55 is there some likeness of 3.55 you can emulate with the WIP flasher?This SPIway Project has really caught my attention. hmmm possible hacks incoming! If you guys do get something in the likeness of 3.55 cfw to run on an official firmware ps4 it will be amazing. Have at it! just seems so impossible because $ony quickly patches everything..

      What O_O ?

    35. B7U3 C50SS
      11-28-2013
      03:46 PM
      35

      What,, i i sound dumb.. sorry Gregory. i haven't done any reading on it yet.

    36. Joonie86
      11-28-2013
      03:47 PM
      36

      Originally Posted by B7U3 C50SS
      Okay, so i should have created an account for ps3hax a long time ago but anyway, when i saw this today, I Knew I had to post a comment about it! WOW. If you can't be downgraded to 3.55 is there some likeness of 3.55 you can emulate with the WIP flasher?This SPIway Project has really caught my attention. hmmm possible hacks incoming! If you guys do get something in the likeness of 3.55 cfw to run on an official firmware ps4 it will be amazing. Have at it! just seems so impossible because $ony quickly patches everything..
      Even PS3 Slim/Super Slim CECH-3000/4000/4200s' NOR can be dumped by a flasher, and now PS4's as well, but that doesn't mean that you can just install CFW.

    37. B7U3 C50SS
      11-28-2013
      03:51 PM
      37

      You do know that I know that, correct? Just a little clarification.

    38. arwynj55
      11-28-2013
      04:14 PM
      38

      Ive got an idea... when a cfw does get made (or if ever) dev's should disable the UI/xmb update thing... so then if anyone has lets say for example. 1.5 CFW and update 1.51 comes out and it will stop you from accidentally upgrade and the only way to upgrade is through the recovery menu :D would save allot of painfull noobs....

    39. Isleofdoom
      11-28-2013
      05:54 PM
      39

      That wod be a good feature except we don't even know if the new system will be so easy to get thro as of yet. And the firmware is the other that will be damn hard to crack as it's layered if you look close

    40. hellsing9
      11-28-2013
      06:25 PM
      40



      [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION] = The boss.

    41. WalangAlam
      11-28-2013
      06:55 PM
      41

      Thanks much [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION]. No fuse for ps4?

    42. zaki_ps2
      11-28-2013
      09:58 PM
      42

      Good news [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION]

    43. guliy
      11-28-2013
      11:38 PM
      43

      sorry but what does this mean? im new to hacking the PS world so go easy on me

    44. doklo
      11-28-2013
      11:45 PM
      44

      Originally Posted by guliy
      sorry but what does this mean? im new to hacking the PS world so go easy on me
      nothing for the end user currently, half the people that posted in this thread have no idea what this means either.
      but it's a step in the right direction.

    45. zapptheman
      11-29-2013
      02:35 AM
      45

      Originally Posted by guliy
      sorry but what does this mean? im new to hacking the PS world so go easy on me
      it means we can now analyse the ps4 operating system and begin testing it for bugs and exploits

    46. Xehanort
      11-29-2013
      03:19 AM
      46

      I don't understand why they can't hack above 3.55 mayby more hackers are interested in this generation.
      Or a team can release a device again that you must buy it.

    47. Sarah1331
      11-29-2013
      04:02 AM
      47

      Originally Posted by Xehanort
      I don't understand why they can't hack above 3.55 mayby more hackers are interested in this generation.
      Or a team can release a device again that you must buy it.
      Because you don't understand how the hack in 3.55 works
      [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION] now you can dump ps4 have you been able to downgrade to 3.55??


      Sent from my iPhone 5

    48. Joonie86
      11-29-2013
      04:45 AM
      48

      Originally Posted by Sarah1331
      Because you don't understand how the hack in 3.55 works
      [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION] now you can dump ps4 have you been able to downgrade to 3.55??
      The latest FW on PS4 is 1.51,So I think upgrade to 3.55 will make more sense lol?
      it would be awesome if PS4 could support PS3's 3.55 FW that can load PS3 Back games LMAO..

    49. Sarah1331
      11-29-2013
      04:46 AM
      49

      I expected a serious shouting at lol


      Sent from my iPhone 5

    50. Xehanort
      11-29-2013
      10:55 AM
      50

      Originally Posted by Sarah1331
      Because you don't understand how the hack in 3.55 works
      [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION] now you can dump ps4 have you been able to downgrade to 3.55??


      Sent from my iPhone 5
      Hell man I have nothing said about downgrade.
      And I'm more talking about E3/Cobra device for 4.x ofw.

      On the other hand it is now combined with PC. Don't know mayby just hackers are more interested in these since we got everytime a new cfw .

    51. Haidarooz
      11-29-2013
      12:42 PM
      51

      Now that's a front page news !!! Made my night

    52. techpro
      11-29-2013
      08:37 PM
      52

      Holy crap, slow down there boy! The PS4 was just released yesterday here in New Zealand!! ))))
      Just kid! GREAT JOB [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION] (PS4 revolution has BEGUN)
      Looking forward to more great work!

    53. baileyscream
      11-30-2013
      09:45 PM
      53

      Great work as always [MENTION=193105]judges[/MENTION]
      Now I have to buy a ps4 to do a tut for it
      What a shame


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    54. baileyscream
      11-30-2013
      09:49 PM
      54

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      PS3 Dev judges has released a early version of SPIway, which is a flasher for the PS4 and is for dum... [Read More]
      The read more in tapatalk gets directed to the 3 posts asking where the topic is with [MENTION=1]Pirate[/MENTION] saying it was deleted again
      I would quote you there but replies are disabled on that redirected page

      http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=11

      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    55. underwurlde
      12-01-2013
      06:20 AM
      55

      Some of these posts are making me LOL.... and some others, I'm like: O.o dude!

      What we are talking about here is no real 'magic'. Like a NAND / NOR dump / programmer for the flash memory devices on the PS3, now we have the same thing for the memory devices used on the PS4. This is a HARDWARE solution to accessing (dumping) the firmware stored on the PS4. That's it. Nothing more. So, now we can see about a billion 1's and 0's that constitute the firmware used on the PS4.

      A first very SMALL step. But now the REAL head-scratching beings and some MAJOR work with possibly no solution to 'cracking' this firmware (no promises in other words).

      So, where would one start? As mentioned, it could be assumed that the new PS4, to speed in it's development, MAY have it's firmware (and encoding thereof) based somewhat on the PS3. The discovery of this would indeed be a MAJOR step forward because existing knowledge of the firmware used on the PS3 could then be applied to unraveling the firmware used on the PS4 (done by comparison searching of existing code blocks etc). I suspect that some of that old firmware MUST be used on the PS4 due to it's backward compatibility to running games, but that does NOT mean (perhaps) that the encoding / protection algorithms etc are the same.

      Finally, bear in mind how long 'the scene' has been hacking away at the PS3 and even so, some of the more recent releases of PS3 ofw's are still locked down. Apply some sensibility to all this as I suspect Sony would have - I wouldn't be surprised if they knew how their PS3 was attacked and therefore place measures to circumvent those attacks on their new PS4.

      As for placing v3.55 firmware from the PS3 into the PS4... don't be bl00dy stupid! But I see that [MENTION=245343]Sarah1331[/MENTION] may be up for trying this with a view (I guess) to producing the world's first ever bricked PS4!!! Go Paul, you get my vote buddy

      Andy

    56. Sarah1331
      12-01-2013
      06:22 AM
      56

      Originally Posted by underwurlde
      Some of these posts are making me LOL.... and some others, I'm like: O.o dude!

      What we are talking about here is no real 'magic'. Like a NAND / NOR dump / programmer for the flash memory devices on the PS3, now we have the same thing for the memory devices used on the PS4. This is a HARDWARE solution to accessing (dumping) the firmware stored on the PS4. That's it. Nothing more. So, now we can see about a billion 1's and 0's that constitute the firmware used on the PS4.

      A first very SMALL step. But now the REAL head-scratching beings and some MAJOR work with possibly no solution to 'cracking' this firmware (no promises in other words).

      So, where would one start? As mentioned, it could be assumed that the new PS4, to speed in it's development, MAY have it's firmware (and encoding thereof) based somewhat on the PS3. The discovery of this would indeed be a MAJOR step forward because existing knowledge of the firmware used on the PS3 could then be applied to unraveling the firmware used on the PS4 (done by comparison searching of existing code blocks etc). I suspect that some of that old firmware MUST be used on the PS4 due to it's backward compatibility to running games, but that does NOT mean (perhaps) that the encoding / protection algorithms etc are the same.

      Finally, bear in mind how long 'the scene' has been hacking away at the PS3 and even so, some of the more recent releases of PS3 ofw's are still locked down. Apply some sensibility to all this as I suspect Sony would have - I wouldn't be surprised if they knew how their PS3 was attacked and therefore place measures to circumvent those attacks on their new PS4.

      As for placing v3.55 firmware from the PS3 into the PS4... don't be bl00dy stupid! But I see that [MENTION=245343]Sarah1331[/MENTION] may be up for trying this with a view (I guess) to producing the world's first ever bricked PS4!!! Go Paul, you get my vote buddy

      Andy
      I'd make a valid dump first and by sounds of things sony have beat me to it with some bad update or somthing


      Sent from my iPhone 5

    57. zapptheman
      12-01-2013
      07:46 AM
      57

      Originally Posted by Sarah1331
      I'd make a valid dump first and by sounds of things sony have beat me to it with some bad update or somthing


      Sent from my iPhone 5
      lol damn too bad.. hey maybe next time on the ps5 ay?

    58. baileyscream
      12-02-2013
      05:30 AM
      58

      Originally Posted by Sarah1331
      I'd make a valid dump first and by sounds of things sony have beat me to it with some bad update or somthing


      Sent from my iPhone 5
      Can I borrow your ps4 dump validator
      Or are you going to be creating a validate page on the ps4wiki for Gand [MENTION=131344]euss[/MENTION] the gray?


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    59. Swizzy
      12-02-2013
      10:22 AM
      59

      Originally Posted by underwurlde
      I suspect that some of that old firmware MUST be used on the PS4 due to it's backward compatibility to running games, but that does NOT mean (perhaps) that the encoding / protection algorithms etc are the same.
      Errr what?! afaik the PS4 does NOT have backwards compatibility for PS3 games... the only method will be downloading them from a cloud based server, most likely they took the game code and did some porting to make it work with x86 rather then PPC64, doing so also means they can completly swap out the entire security crap to that of the PS4, meaning they don't need to have anything from the PS3 in the PS4...

      ** edit: **

      http://psdevwiki.com/ps4/Backwards_Compatibility <--- here you can read more about it

    60. criscros1989
      12-09-2013
      05:52 PM
      60

      I made the dump PS4 on OFW 1.05, you can read the news on italian site Consoleopen
      A special thanks again to the Master

    61. euss
      12-12-2013
      12:40 PM
      61

      great work [MENTION=184113]criscros1989[/MENTION]

      have seen some of the pictures you posted, including hexeditor and they look interesting to document on psdevwiki.com

      keep in mind that there will be perconsole data on it, so watch out who you share the dump with if this is not a science labrat PS4 that doesn't matter if it ever gets banned.

    62. DebugBrain
      12-12-2013
      12:51 PM
      62

      Originally Posted by criscros1989
      I made the dump PS4 on OFW 1.05, you can read the news on italian site Consoleopen
      A special thanks again to the Master
      Yes, great job bro