• Featured, PS4 Hacks, Rumour , 13.11.2013

    I’m not sure how legit this is, so of course it is being treated as a huge rumour, until someone confirms or squashes the validity of this:

     

    Killzone Shadow Falls: 37.4Gb
    Knack: 39.3gb

    Both game contains single Pkg that contains whole data. as well as “RIF” file that is used for storing purchase data to activate digital contents from PSN Store.

    ├ ─ PS4
    │ └ ─ UPDATE
    PS4UPDATE.PUP

    ├ ─ App
    │ └ ─ CUSA00190
    app.pkg

    ├ ─ bd
    PARAM.SFO

    └ ─ license
    rif

    This seems interesting and today I’ve got my Killzone SF and COD Ghost from gamestop.

    I tried loading them on my PS3′s BD-ROM it couldn’t read them. Maybe it was too obvious lol,

    However it seems that PC’s BD-ROM could read them.

    here’s the original source below.

    [Source] = http://bbs.a9vg.com/forum.php?mod=vi…ad&tid=3751020

     

    Update:

    Two more games are released as well.

    Can’t really reveal the original source because they’re so strict about their security.

    My friend is the one of the members over there.




     You can check the gallery over here:  Click

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    Update 2:

    UP9000-CUSA00190_00-KZ4RELEASE000041

    It looks just like the one of those PS3′s typical PKG files..

    Click for full size.

    Discuss in Forums (119)


  • 119 Comments

    1. crazelunatic
      11-13-2013
      08:52 PM
      1

      Interesting

    2. GregoryRasputin
      11-13-2013
      09:11 PM
      2

      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] are you awake, I'm in bed so can't front page this, I'm sure [MENTION=194415]harryoke[/MENTION] will have a major orgasm over this O.o

    3. YoYoBalls
      11-13-2013
      09:16 PM
      3

      This would be crazy if it's legit. What site is that in the screen ? IPT ?

    4. stussy1
      11-13-2013
      09:22 PM
      4

      What did i say it only fails
      And i wouldnt be surprised if deank
      Patches multiman to read the games

    5. hellsing9
      11-13-2013
      09:41 PM
      5

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] are you awake, I'm in bed so can't front page this, I'm sure [MENTION=194415]harryoke[/MENTION] will have a major orgasm over this O.o
      I was in bbs9 checking for more info....
      This is insane.

    6. DjKlown
      11-13-2013
      09:41 PM
      6

      Legit or not.. there were tons of ps3 iso out there nefore we could use them as backups.. wow good job they used magic disc. And made a 1 1 copy. When I get some hames for my new system ican do ot too.. who cares

    7. GregoryRasputin
      11-13-2013
      09:44 PM
      7

      Originally Posted by DjKlown
      Legit or not.. there were tons of ps3 iso out there nefore we could use them as backups.. wow good job they used magic disc. And made a 1 1 copy. When I get some hames for my new system ican do ot too.. who cares
      I care, because if this is legit, it is extremely funny, simply because this would be the quickest Sony fail in history.
      Also its nice to see the file structure.

    8. hellsing9
      11-13-2013
      09:46 PM
      8

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      I care, because if this is legit, it is extremely funny, simply because this would be the quickest Sony fail in history.
      Also its nice to see the file structure.
      Actually fixing your article.
      Sorry if i was late to frontpage it, i'm checking for more data over there.

      Update:

      Over Dowan, didn't find anything.

    9. Cheesethief
      11-13-2013
      10:00 PM
      9

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      I care, because if this is legit, it is extremely funny, simply because this would be the quickest Sony fail in history.
      Also its nice to see the file structure.
      How is it a fail though? It's the disc being read and copied which it isn't exactly all that surprising. The quickest Sony fail in history is the PSP which was hacked wide open very, very quickly.

    10. GregoryRasputin
      11-13-2013
      10:04 PM
      10

      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      How is it a fail though? It's the disc being read and copied which it isn't exactly all that surprising. The quickest Sony fail in history is the PSP which was hacked wide open very, very quickly.
      Not having protection on your game disc, allowing it to be ripped by a simple PC drive, is a huge fail, try doing that with a PS3 game.

    11. Cheesethief
      11-13-2013
      10:06 PM
      11

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      Not having protection on your game disc, allowing it to be ripped by a simple PC drive, is a huge fail, try doing that with a PS3 game.
      Which probably means they are more than confident in the rest of their security.

    12. tjhooker73
      11-13-2013
      10:08 PM
      12

      Well its easier to read without encryption so win.
      And it would be impossible to load them so far, unless 3k3y releases their 4key lol and 1key :P

      Sent from my One Xl using Tapatalk

    13. GregoryRasputin
      11-13-2013
      10:08 PM
      13

      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      Which probably means they are more than confident in the rest of their security.
      Or they just f*cked up.
      [MENTION=186943]hellsing9[/MENTION] seems two more games have been added, check first post.

    14. enosrasun
      11-13-2013
      10:12 PM
      14

      sony never disappoint me when it comes to "epic fail" they should copyright it

    15. Cheesethief
      11-13-2013
      10:14 PM
      15

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      Or they just f*cked up.
      Somehow, I doubt that they haven't learned anything from the PS3. I do not doubt that it will probably be hacked at some point, but I doubt this is them messing up.

    16. GregoryRasputin
      11-13-2013
      10:19 PM
      16

      Originally Posted by Cheesethief
      Somehow, I doubt that they haven't learned anything from the PS3. I do not doubt that it will probably be hacked at some point, but I doubt this is them messing up.
      Look at all the messing up they have been doing already, in regards to MP3 and other things

      Anyhow, this hasn't been validated, so it might not be a Sony fail after all

    17. itskamel
      11-13-2013
      10:19 PM
      17

      where in the hell is this at?

    18. GregoryRasputin
      11-13-2013
      10:23 PM
      18

      Well someone I trust has told me that these rips are indeed legit, he told me the torrent site they are on, but I'd rather not say.

    19. gingerbread
      11-13-2013
      10:24 PM
      19

      So basically, every single PS4 Game disc is a giant 30-50GB PKG install? The disc is in the system just for authentication after install?

    20. hellsing9
      11-13-2013
      10:24 PM
      20

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      Or they just f*cked up.
      seems two more games have been added, check first post.
      Checking them now, though i don't see nothing new in dowan nor in the source...
      I think this is a big ****ed up from their part (s0rny) and they will ask eventually to remove this..

    21. cfwprpht
      11-13-2013
      10:24 PM
      21

      Guys you all forget the KEY thingy ?? Seems like you do.....

      Sony duno need additional security layer's. First the ODE's won't work in case of the drive's again will have revision key's. And i doubt that sony have used the same drive keys like from last PS3 SLIM

      For sure they also have changed the syscall to dump the drive key from hardware. So i wouldn't bet on a Drive Emu Chip comming soon.

      The other game files are also secure as long we don't have a way into the sys to search on decrypted files for keys, just like on the PS3 it was. It all start's again - remeber lv0, lv1, lv2, appldr, yada yada.....


      EDIT:

      ook at all the messing up they have been doing already, in regards to MP3 and other things
      WORD. They maybe thought that everyone is using his Smartphone or MP3 player this times and no one will care. ^^

    22. GregoryRasputin
      11-13-2013
      10:28 PM
      22

      Originally Posted by cfwprpht
      Guys you all forget the KEY thingy ?? Seems like you do.....

      Sony duno need additional security layer's. First the ODE's won't work in case of the drive's again will have revision key's. And i doubt that sony have used the same drive keys like from last PS3 SLIM

      For sure they also have changed the syscall to dump the drive key from hardware. So i wouldn't bet on a Drive Emu Chip comming soon.

      The other game files are also secure as long we don't have a way into the sys to search on decrypted files for keys, just like it on the PS3 it was. It all start's again - remeber lv0, lv1, lv2, appldr, yada yada.....

      I don't care about playing the games, I'm just interested in the structure and what files are simmilar to PS3 games.

    23. Joonie86
      11-13-2013
      10:32 PM
      23

      Originally Posted by hellsing9
      Checking them now, though i don't see nothing new in dowan nor in the source...
      I think this is a big ****ed up from their part (s0rny) and they will ask eventually to remove this..
      I found something on duowan

      people are downloading them already, I think it will be out on public torrent any time soon.

      http://bbs.duowan.com/thread-35846876-1-1.html

    24. hellsing9
      11-13-2013
      10:32 PM
      24

      I dunno but i have some *weird* feeling that we probably will not need a *ge0hot 2.0* to enable piracy on this.

      Moving all pics to imgur. I don't want to hotlink from source, they will delete them eventually.

    25. cfwprpht
      11-13-2013
      10:33 PM
      25

      Im pretty sure they adobted nearly the whole system. Just like we see PUP's, PKG's and we allready have seen an xml entry with a fw specific lv0 & lv1 entry. The guys i have talked told me that the security can't be that stronge like on the PS3 in case of the Cell. But it's still the same sys like on the PS3 just tweaked a few things and replaced keys.

    26. hellsing9
      11-13-2013
      10:35 PM
      26

      Originally Posted by Joonie86
      I found something on duowan

      people are downloading them already, I think it will be out on public torrent any time soon.

      http://bbs.duowan.com/thread-35846876-1-1.html
      Looking the same, but if [MENTION=7773]GregoryRasputin[/MENTION] is not here and i'm not here. Sometimes i feel that HAX has no *staff* left to keep the community updated.
      Thanks [MENTION=240603]Joonie86[/MENTION] try to keep me updated, i'm reading in 3 different languages.

    27. Mergy
      11-13-2013
      10:48 PM
      27

      well, i would not be suprised at all, if those would work right away with low effort.
      Like a very good person told me, it's not that hard, to work with the "Next-Gen" Systems under their surface

    28. steve51184
      11-13-2013
      10:51 PM
      28

      anyone got a link to the torrent site these came from? or at last the .torrent files?

    29. hellsing9
      11-13-2013
      10:51 PM
      29

      Damn they are ****ing fast, even over duowan...

      http://imgur.com/a/jT4Pf High-res gallery. Fixing the ones from the main article.

      Originally Posted by steve51184
      anyone got a link to the torrent site these came from? or at last the .torrent files?
      You know WE can't provide that.
      Check source, use google translate.

    30. Joonie86
      11-13-2013
      10:55 PM
      30

      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...131114035219:s


      This is the BD-ROM that was used for ripping, it's $89.00.. makes me wanna buy one..

    31. stussy1
      11-13-2013
      10:57 PM
      31

      Originally Posted by gingerbread
      So basically, every single PS4 Game disc is a giant 30-50GB PKG install? The disc is in the system just for authentication after install?
      have you seen the graphics on shadow fall i am surprised its only that


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDfu1mYQXEg

    32. Solotime
      11-13-2013
      10:58 PM
      32

      I think that's pretty funny.

      Now what's next? PS4 hacked first day?

    33. gingerbread
      11-13-2013
      11:02 PM
      33

      Originally Posted by stussy1
      have you seen the graphics on shadow fall i am surprised its only that


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDfu1mYQXEg
      The graphics and image quality is great! But I will not be surprised if the disc only acts as an authentication check after full install.

    34. stussy1
      11-13-2013
      11:06 PM
      34

      Originally Posted by gingerbread
      The graphics and image quality is great! But I will not be surprised if the disc only acts as an authentication check after full install.
      true similar to the xbox360 where you have a choice but on ps4 i doubt

    35. hellsing9
      11-13-2013
      11:08 PM
      35

      Originally Posted by Joonie86
      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...131114035219:s


      This is the BD-ROM that was used for ripping, it's $89.00.. makes me wanna buy one..
      I have one...maybe i will ask to some friend for a PS4 game and make some rips. Just for the lulz.

      ===============================

      Article updated, again.

    36. gingerbread
      11-13-2013
      11:28 PM
      36

      Originally Posted by stussy1
      true similar to the xbox360 where you have a choice but on ps4 i doubt
      Yeap. On PS4 I don't think the user have a choice. It is mandatory full install by design. So in this era of gaming, disc are just install disc. LOL!

    37. Mergy
      11-13-2013
      11:32 PM
      37

      Originally Posted by gingerbread
      So in this era of gaming, disc are just install disc. LOL!
      Why they don't sell codes anyway? I mean, they build in a Blue-Ray drive, just to use discs, that would only install on the internal hard drive!
      Then give users the info you can't use the drive properly, cause there a media types you just can't use.

      So just sell codes, and don't give us a "non existant disc drive" that we can't use to 100%!

    38. DjKlown
      11-13-2013
      11:32 PM
      38

      Blah blah blah.. I found them and jist 1to1 like all the othwr ****. I'm getting the games in the am from my local shop. I will verify

    39. hellsing9
      11-13-2013
      11:33 PM
      39

      Fixed code structure in main Article.
      Added Code to main post.

      I'm out for a while, gotta work.
      Anything @ me or greg (or both).

      Understand that i'm the only one, available ATM.
      So if i take sometime to update, it's because of that.

    40. gingerbread
      11-13-2013
      11:38 PM
      40

      Originally Posted by Mergy
      Why they don't sell codes anyway? I mean, they build in a Blue-Ray drive, just to use discs, that would only install on the internal hard drive!
      Then give users the info you can't use the drive properly, cause there a media types you just can't use.

      So just sell codes, and don't give us a "non existant disc drive" that we can't use to 100%!
      Technically the disc acts as a "Offline Pass"! I think it will be messy. If users want to resell the disc.

    41. lionsfan420
      11-14-2013
      01:19 AM
      41

      I think it is a ploy from Sony to lure us into buying the PS4 thinkin its gonna be easily cracked... imho

    42. Sidewinder_2011
      11-14-2013
      01:24 AM
      42

      Originally Posted by gingerbread
      Technically the disc acts as a "Offline Pass"! I think it will be messy. If users want to resell the disc.
      Sony has done this with some ps3 game's before.

      Also once the game has fully loaded the disc stops. I could use 1 games disc on 2 ps3, I wonder if the ps4 be like that .

    43. Joonie86
      11-14-2013
      02:00 AM
      43

      Originally Posted by gingerbread
      Technically the disc acts as a "Offline Pass"! I think it will be messy. If users want to resell the disc.
      what about the up-gradable ps3 Games for PS4? PS3 Games like BF4,AC4,COD can be used for PS4 for those of people who pay $10 extra.

      And Xbox ONE will do the same. does that mean the same authorization method will be used?

      I think by using PS3 Game disc, There will be RIF file generated inside PS4's internal HDD and

      the Full PKG download from PSN will be used for full activation and it will still need original PS3 disc inserted into PS4.

    44. gingerbread
      11-14-2013
      02:07 AM
      44

      Originally Posted by carldenning
      Sony has done this with some ps3 game's before.

      Also once the game has fully loaded the disc stops. I could use 1 games disc on 2 ps3, I wonder if the ps4 be like that .
      Yeap. Example: Journey Collector's Edition for PS3

    45. gingerbread
      11-14-2013
      02:25 AM
      45

      Originally Posted by harryoke
      i just jizzed my pants , but piracy is bad , dont be lured to the dark side
      There is always 2 side to a coin.

      Check this interesting article.
      Code:
      http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2011/02/opinion_game_developers_should.php

    46. Kalberto
      11-14-2013
      02:58 AM
      46

      amazing, single PKG games 35.8GB, no wonder, installing into HDD, it has a big size, I wonder, if the PS4 games can be run WITHOUT BD inside ??
      i think, it looked like PS3 PSN games .....

      it could be read, but could it be copy to BD-Blank ?
      if yes, then can be play, that's 100% faillure

      someone, please try, after copy and paste that app.pkg into USB 3 external HDD, can it be installing into internal PS4 HDD and run it with a different title BD games inside ??
      I hope PS4 has the installer package feature to install the update pkg, manually....

    47. OoZic
      11-14-2013
      04:44 AM
      47

      Same file structure is logical: both PS3 and PS4 are FreeBSD based
      If only the processor would be the same....

    48. sinsizer
      11-14-2013
      05:16 AM
      48

      It�s a logical step to use the same format for psn content and retail disc.
      Disc based games will dissapear in the next years. That is what Gaikai is for.
      Same for xbox. They don�t need all this servers and services for online gaming,
      It�s needed to deliver the games.

    49. trulex
      11-14-2013
      05:35 AM
      49

      If this is real, i will buy ps4 tomorrow.

    50. LordX
      11-14-2013
      06:00 AM
      50

      for sure game have some hidden partition, it can't be just a PKG , game disc have some protection and you can't make 1:1 copy same like PS3 games.
      so to play the game you must have original game disc in the drive, PS4 will check it and only then game will start ( exactly same it works on XBOX360 when you copy all game to HDD it ask you to put the disc in tray, console checking if disc is real and only then game will start ).

    51. rockla
      11-14-2013
      06:15 AM
      51

      [MENTION=194415]harryoke[/MENTION]

      Its on TTG Tracker

    52. aries2k
      11-14-2013
      06:37 AM
      52

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      Not having protection on your game disc, allowing it to be ripped by a simple PC drive, is a huge fail, try doing that with a PS3 game.
      Actually you could do it with a ps3 game.
      My Aopen BD-Rom PC drive could read ps3 games. and copy to the PC. I had a few games ripped before there was any way to play the games on the ps3.
      When the ps3 was hacked, I tried these rips and none of them worked. I believe the iso rips that were on the net that didn�t work at the time were also obtained the same way.
      So even though the discs can be read and copied there must be an extra layer of protection on them, that was only removed when ripping the game on the ps3.
      I�m not surprised that ps4 games can be read on a PC drive but I am confused that they seem to all be coming in pkgs? Like the PSN version?

      Did ps2 games have any protection on them at all?

    53. LordX
      11-14-2013
      06:41 AM
      53

      Originally Posted by harryoke
      cheers ,but i have no idea how to sign up ...lol
      it is invite-only registration

    54. GregoryRasputin
      11-14-2013
      07:05 AM
      54

      Originally Posted by aries2k
      Actually you could do it with a ps3 game.
      My Aopen BD-Rom PC drive could read ps3 games. and copy to the PC. I had a few games ripped before there was any way to play the games on the ps3.
      When the ps3 was hacked, I tried these rips and none of them worked. I believe the iso rips that were on the net that didn�t work at the time were also obtained the same way.
      So even though the discs can be read and copied there must be an extra layer of protection on them, that was only removed when ripping the game on the ps3.
      I�m not surprised that ps4 games can be read on a PC drive but I am confused that they seem to all be coming in pkgs? Like the PSN version?

      Did ps2 games have any protection on them at all?
      1.) You are lucky enough to have one of the rare drives that can read PS3 games, but you didn't rip any PS3 games, two days before the PS3's release, also its one thing copying them, but as you said, they didn't work, so your PC only partially read them and that Is because of a specific drive, just like the rare PC drives that can read 360 games.
      When I told him to try ripping a PS3 game on his PC, its because not many people have drives that rip PS3 games, I never said it wasn't possible.
      If PS4 games can be read in any PC Blu Ray drive, then its quite a massive failing, as all that might be needed is a way to crack the .rif files, but its early days, so no point speculating.
      2.) The ISO's on the net from that era, work fine on a hacked PS3.
      3.) PS2 games from what I know had some protection, in a time with less security, its something you would expect, it isn't something you would expect in 2013.

    55. Mbb
      11-14-2013
      07:10 AM
      55

      Interesting, eventually both nextgen system will be hacked. Ps1,ps2,ps3 were all hacked so I expect a ps4 hack, but not anytime soon, it could take 4 years like it was with the ps3. Hopefully it will be done sooner on this console though.

    56. Judd
      11-14-2013
      07:20 AM
      56

      Ripping games is usually the easy part, its the system that's hard to crack. If the PS4 is anything like the PS3 was I'd be expecting a long wait before we can mod it

    57. xflarex
      11-14-2013
      07:35 AM
      57

      Originally Posted by Judd
      Ripping games is usually the easy part, its the system that's hard to crack. If the PS4 is anything like the PS3 was I'd be expecting a long wait before we can mod it
      Yes and no on the wait. With otherOS, there weren't all that many people seriously attempting to hack the ps3. most of us just wanted full access to the hardware while running yellow dog. having an os meant that we could do plenty of the things that hacking would provide. It still could take a while, but if the motivation is there, then it will probably be hacked.

    58. kristijan1001
      11-14-2013
      07:39 AM
      58

      Awesome ! . BTW never knew when was the ps3 system hacked after how much time after release ? not speaking about the Jailbreak(did the jailbreak came after or before the dongles ?) But Speaking About The Dongles Who Managed To Run downloaded games ?

    59. Schasu
      11-14-2013
      07:46 AM
      59

      I want to get my hands on one of the rips, trying to take them apart. Is there anyone who can send TTG Invites in here?

    60. Judd
      11-14-2013
      07:55 AM
      60

      @xflarx

      True I guess the PS3 scene never was very big, it still isn't really compared to the Xbox modding scene. Hopefully with PS4 the scene gets bigger.

    61. ttz
      11-14-2013
      08:21 AM
      61

      first ps3 rip was 2004-02-24 23:00:00 PS3 Romance_Of_The_Three_Kingdoms_IX_USA_DVD-PROTOCOL
      first JB rip was God of War III EUR-JAILBREAK on 2010-09-04 23:37:49

    62. GregoryRasputin
      11-14-2013
      09:10 AM
      62

      Originally Posted by ttz
      first ps3 rip was 2004-02-24 23:00:00 PS3 Romance_Of_The_Three_Kingdoms_IX_USA_DVD-PROTOCOL
      first JB rip was God of War III EUR-JAILBREAK on 2010-09-04 23:37:49
      lol you high ?

      1.) Romance Of The Three Kingdoms IX did not come out on the PS3
      2.) The PS3 was not released in 2004.
      3.) The first PS3 rip was Madden 2007 on the 26th of November 2006.

    63. noobzega
      11-14-2013
      09:13 AM
      63

      LOL on 2010 :D

    64. GregoryRasputin
      11-14-2013
      10:09 AM
      64

      Originally Posted by bubba
      it was Pre on the 24th not the 26th

      The Person dumped it on the 23th it took 4 hours to upload it to TOPSITE...Pre on the 24th

      Not sure where you are getting your dates, but i think you are wrong.

      Group(s): a.b.the-terminal
      Date: 11-26-2006
      Size: 6.39 GB

      cOMPANY : EA Sports rELEASE DATE : 25 Nov 2006
      sYSTEM : PlayStation 3 ! sIZE : 67 x 100mb
      tYPE : Wierd Shape Ball vIDEO MODE : NTSC/USA
      Game
      sUPPLIER : F0ny cRACKER : G0d

      2006-11-25 USA NO NFL Madden 2007 USA BLURAY DIRFIX PS3-PARADOX
      2006-11-25 USA NO NFL Madden 2007 USA BLUERAY PS3-PARADOX
      2006-11-25 USA NO NFL Madden 2007 USA BLURAY PS3-PARADOX

    65. stuck?
      11-14-2013
      10:21 AM
      65

      [MENTION=300767]Schasu[/MENTION] This isn't the place to be asking for torrent invites.

      There are many other forums you can use that are solely for the purpose of getting tracker invites.

      This is not one of them. Goes the same for asking for links to download warez.

    66. ttz
      11-14-2013
      10:34 AM
      66

      i'm not high :D just a bad query in one database

    67. Gazra
      11-14-2013
      10:38 AM
      67

      Well I cannot confirm or deny this rumour.

      I am a member on several private torrent sites and they have no mention of these torrents on them.

      Even when looking through google it didn't retain any positive results.

      I will have to have a look again in a few hours and see but from what I can see (or cannot) I don't believe this is true.


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    68. GregoryRasputin
      11-14-2013
      10:42 AM
      68

      Originally Posted by Gazra
      Well I cannot confirm or deny this rumour.

      I am a member on several private torrent sites and they have no mention of these torrents on them.

      Even when looking through google it didn't retain any positive results.

      I will have to have a look again in a few hours and see but from what I can see (or cannot) I don't believe this is true.


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      Try Chinese torrent sites....

    69. Gazra
      11-14-2013
      10:44 AM
      69

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      Try Chinese torrent sites....
      Good point never thought of them haha. Will browse away thanks.


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    70. godking666
      11-14-2013
      10:58 AM
      70

      i have battlefield 4 myself right now lol.

    71. rocksmart1
      11-14-2013
      11:24 AM
      71

      Haaaa need CFW to play them. If CFW out I gonna buy this year on launch date. I have money to buy ps4 but not for Games cartridge.

    72. samdrlvt
      11-14-2013
      11:52 AM
      72

      And so it begins... the crying from users, for a PS4 CFW!... It�s gonna be a painful year(s)...

    73. synce
      11-14-2013
      12:47 PM
      73

      I highly doubt the PS4 will ever get hacked, and I'm sure Sony feels the same way. There's no way this is an oversight. They're letting people do this to waste their bandwidth and catch them in the act.

    74. dazza4783
      11-14-2013
      01:04 PM
      74

      I think sony will have learnt from their mistakes with the PS3. I imagine it will be just as hard getting a CFW for it as it is now installing one on newer "Unhackable" PS3s.
      ODDE is probably the most likely way to go.

    75. FrogDR
      11-14-2013
      02:23 PM
      75

      I`f i good remember. E3 Team with they E3 Station saids that they oode gonna be work even with PS4... So... i`m waiting )

    76. tjhooker73
      11-14-2013
      02:27 PM
      76

      Originally Posted by FrogDR
      I`f i good remember. E3 Team with they E3 Station saids that they oode gonna be work even with PS4... So... i`m waiting )
      That was their mystery glitcher that vanished.

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    77. Xehanort
      11-14-2013
      02:39 PM
      77

      It would be funny if it can run on PS3. They say ps1/ps2 is not compatible but it is. For the most games then.

    78. kristijan1001
      11-14-2013
      02:45 PM
      78

      We need people like geohot for this kind of ****,he was the first one to jailbreak the iphone and the ps3,maybe he could do it with the ps4 also but he is not into it anymore,he makes apps as far as i know,we need that kind of people with an alien brain(My BD Just died on ps4 birthday THIS WAS SONY PLAN SO I BUY PS4 JK dont take it serious about the sony part)

    79. GregoryRasputin
      11-14-2013
      02:49 PM
      79

      Originally Posted by kristijan1001
      We need people like geohot for this kind of ****,he was the first one to jailbreak the iphone and the ps3,maybe he could do it with the ps4 also but he is not into it anymore,he makes apps as far as i know,we need that kind of people with an alien brain(My BD Just died on ps4 birthday THIS WAS SONY PLAN SO I BUY PS4 JK dont take it serious about the sony part)

      NO we DO NOT need GeoHot and NO he was NOT the first one to jailbreak the PS3....

    80. kristijan1001
      11-14-2013
      02:50 PM
      80

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      NO we DO NOT need GeoHot and NO he was NOT the first one to jailbreak the PS3....
      bad sources then ,who was it ?

    81. GregoryRasputin
      11-14-2013
      02:58 PM
      81

      Originally Posted by kristijan1001
      bad sources then ,who was it ?

      The PS Jailbreak Dongle makers where the first to release a device, fail0verflow were probably the first.
      Also KaKaRoTo released the first 3.55 MFW.

    82. dazza4783
      11-14-2013
      03:01 PM
      82

      Originally Posted by kristijan1001
      bad sources then ,who was it ?
      PSJailbreak dongle was first i think. Geohot was first with the custom firmware if i remember right, or was it waninkoko?

    83. GregoryRasputin
      11-14-2013
      03:03 PM
      83

      Originally Posted by dazza4783
      PSJailbreak dongle was first i think. Geohot was first with the custom firmware if i remember right, or was it waninkoko?
      KaKaRoTo was......

    84. bearmon2010
      11-14-2013
      03:55 PM
      84

      Its great news as well as Wii U game dumped before. Well, It doesnt mean anything since Wii U game - The Avengers Battle for Earth Pal Wiiu-Venom (23gb) released about 134 days ago. No CFW for Wii U so far. It is going to be the same as well.

    85. noobzega
      11-14-2013
      04:16 PM
      85

      Originally Posted by kristijan1001
      We need people like geohot for this kind of ****,he was the first one to jailbreak the iphone and the ps3,maybe he could do it with the ps4 also but he is not into it anymore,he makes apps as far as i know,we need that kind of people with an alien brain(My BD Just died on ps4 birthday THIS WAS SONY PLAN SO I BUY PS4 JK dont take it serious about the sony part)
      LOL he just stole infos..

    86. Cheesethief
      11-14-2013
      04:29 PM
      86

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      The PS Jailbreak Dongle makers where the first to release a device, fail0verflow were probably the first.
      Also KaKaRoTo released the first 3.55 MFW.
      And Waninkoko had the first CFW that could run backups. Though it did brick NANDs.

      Also, I think it was through the PS Jailbreak that fail0verfl0w were able to do what they did. At least I think that is how they explained it in their conference presentation.

    87. $n!pR
      11-14-2013
      04:44 PM
      87

      Doubt the games can be copied on just any blu-ray drive. The way the drives read discs is through software and the drives that are reading these discs is because of the firmware on the drive. Theoretically any blu-ray drive could read any type of blu-ray disc (even the XB1), they just need the right software on the drive.

    88. bammo
      11-14-2013
      05:09 PM
      88

      Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin
      KaKaRoTo was......
      see greg this is why you need to finish your ps3 history so it will help the noobs like kristijan1001

    89. tjhooker73
      11-14-2013
      05:33 PM
      89

      Originally Posted by bammo
      see greg this is why you need to finish your ps3 history so it will help the noobs like kristijan1001
      They won't F*cking read it >.>

      Sent from my One Xl using Tapatalk

    90. Korben
      11-14-2013
      05:55 PM
      90

      Since we're talking about PlayStation 4 (and PlayStation 3) hacking. Here a message from fellow hacker SKFU :

      3) For those who already received a console

      Sadly im still looking for a PS4 unit, if you can help me to get one contact me at [email protected].


      In case you got a unit for yourself, here are some examples of what has to be tested:

      Before powering up the unit for first time, make a 1:1 dump of the HDD
      Explore the HDD dump

      Dump a game disc
      Burn the dump to an empty BD
      Check if the PS4 recognizes the disc

      Check any files which can be transfered from PS4
      Savegames, etc

      Install a modified firmware
      Use my PS4FwTool
      Extract 2 firmwares
      Rebuild a new firmware based on both output
      Possible brick! Do at your own risk!
      Recovery menu should bring you back in case of faulty firmware, but only do this if you actually are aware of the risk and know what you do!

      Sniff anything
      Use SKFU's Proxy and/or Wireshark to check the network behaviour
      Find unencrypted traffic transfers

      Modify the Companion Tool (iOS/Android)
      Intercept game traffic between Companion Tool and PS4 game

      etc.


      Happy hacking,

      - SKFU
      Source : http://www.skfu.xxx/2013/11/ps4-game...fail-more.html

      ps : About PS4 BR disc dump, seems like good old time with PS3.

    91. DjKlown
      11-14-2013
      06:24 PM
      91

      ok i have been trying to copy these games all day.. i eventually went and got that brdrive and wala. makes perfect 1 to 1 copies... i would say that this is confirmed... those are real copys

      oh and btw ... i am having display issues with my ps4.. i tried swapping hdmi cables but nothing seems to help

    92. GregoryRasputin
      11-14-2013
      06:44 PM
      92

      Originally Posted by bammo
      see greg this is why you need to finish your ps3 history so it will help the noobs like kristijan1001
      Its been reopened

      Originally Posted by DjKlown
      oh and btw ... i am having display issues with my ps4.. i tried swapping hdmi cables but nothing seems to help
      Seems a lot of the tacco bell ones are having problems

    93. DjKlown
      11-14-2013
      06:52 PM
      93

      What do u mean they having problems.. got a link.

    94. GregoryRasputin
      11-14-2013
      06:59 PM
      94

      Originally Posted by DjKlown
      What do u mean they having problems.. got a link.
      Here:
      http://www.ps3hax.net/2013/11/broken...o-far-so-good/
      Hopefully its fixable with a firmware upgrade.

    95. Kalberto
      11-14-2013
      07:54 PM
      95

      Originally Posted by rocksmart1
      Haaaa need CFW to play them. If CFW out I gonna buy this year on launch date. I have money to buy ps4 but not for Games cartridge.
      Originally Posted by samdrlvt
      And so it begins... the crying from users, for a PS4 CFW!... It�s gonna be a painful year(s)...
      Originally Posted by Korben
      Since we're talking about PlayStation 4 (and PlayStation 3) hacking. Here a message from fellow hacker SKFU :



      Source : http://www.skfu.xxx/2013/11/ps4-game...fail-more.html

      ps : About PS4 BR disc dump, seems like good old time with PS3.
      NO need to find the keys for creating a CFW,
      what you have do is to figure it out, how to install app.pkg into internal HDD and run the game with a different title BD Game inside or without BD inside.

    96. DjKlown
      11-14-2013
      08:31 PM
      96

      well ill be damned..im going to go get inline for my preorders here soon.. and ill have to call them up tommorow and see waht the dealio is

    97. Nathanleagan
      11-14-2013
      08:42 PM
      97

      yeah but i dought these will be able to be used. the second a cfw is leaked back to sueing like geohotz sony is going to baby the ps4 like no tomarrow

    98. Simonbuck
      11-15-2013
      06:26 AM
      98

      Food for thought ! (nothing to do with the above games)

      Football Manager 2013

      Speaking at the London Games Conference 2013, Miles Jacobson, director of Sports Interactive, which makes the game, explained that this fact came to light courtesy of code his team embedded in the software. It enables the IP addresses of those who’ve downloaded pirate copies to be tracked.In all, reported MCV, 10.1m people illegally downloaded the game, with 3.2million coming from China, 1.05million from Turkey, 781,785 from Portugal and 547,000 from Italy.

      Probably only relates to the PC version :dunno:

      Full story HERE



    99. kristijan1001
      11-15-2013
      07:20 AM
      99

      Originally Posted by bammo
      see greg this is why you need to finish your ps3 history so it will help the noobs like kristijan1001
      why do you call me noob sh*thead i didnt know

    100. bammo
      11-15-2013
      08:46 AM
      100

      hmm well when someone doesn't know something that's usually why someone else would call that person a noob go read gregs ps3 history

    101. tjhooker73
      11-15-2013
      10:04 AM
      101

      Originally Posted by Kalberto
      NO need to find the keys for creating a CFW,
      what you have do is to figure it out, how to install app.pkg into internal HDD and run the game with a different title BD Game inside or without BD inside.
      Do it yourself then if its so ****ing easy.

      Sent from my One Xl using Tapatalk

    102. SeanP2500
      11-15-2013
      03:28 PM
      102

      Originally Posted by Simonbuck
      Food for thought ! (nothing to do with the above games)

      Football Manager 2013


      Probably only relates to the PC version :dunno:

      Full story HERE



      This is something I feel will become more and more of an issue. I also do not believe it is just a PC game issue. In fact I believe GTA5 iso (at least for 360) has such security. Essentially if you pirate use an offline machine to manipulate/play data and an online machine that is not traceable to you (proxy leech wifi etc) otherwise I feel times are about to get quite rough in terms of iso security. This really makes me sad because it has been good times...

      PSP was definitely sony's disaster to date with the Dreamcast I feel being the worst so far overall...

      This information in terms of the game blue rays being readable is interesting and indicates a different approach in terms of security something that the daily mail post alludes to....

    103. Bressum
      11-17-2013
      02:38 PM
      103

      So it turns out the PS4 game discs have no encryption at all? kkkkkkkk

    104. Aliens36
      11-22-2013
      05:33 PM
      104

      I believe it. I have already seen Call of Duty ghosts for Xbox One on a torrent site.

    105. longtermfx
      11-29-2013
      10:59 AM
      105

      Great little discovery. The question is, are these game dumps "playable" on our PS3? I would expect not, but boy, would that be fun or what?

    106. euss
      11-29-2013
      12:19 PM
      106

      yes, the games are as playable as ARM android AngryBirds is on your Playstation 1 under iO7

      ofcourse you would need to put over 10 PS3s in a cluster to get the same amount of Gflops... (PS4:1.84Tflops versus PS3:176Gflops)

    107. DjKlown
      11-29-2013
      12:21 PM
      107

      I didn't read the rest od the thread but if its still on ps4 dumps.. then no it won't be playable on the ps3different architecture. U will never see a ps4 emulator for the 3

    108. euss
      11-29-2013
      12:28 PM
      108

      Originally Posted by DjKlown
      I didn't read the rest od the thread but if its still on ps4 dumps.. then no it won't be playable on the ps3different architecture. U will never see a ps4 emulator for the 3
      Just a funny note, you could for just the CPU in theory. PS3 cpu sp: 230Gflops versus PS4 cpu sp: 102.4Gflops) - too bad the memort bandwidth will cut you severly off : PS4 (unified) 176Gb/s versus PS3 (peak)22.4Gb/s

    109. DjKlown
      11-29-2013
      01:55 PM
      109

      [MENTION=131344]euss[/MENTION] just think of he time it would take for that though.. hehe. It ain't going to be at least 10-15 years befoe MAYBE a ps4 emulator could be possible . And then prt that to the cell.. and it would nt be able to do anything except maybe play a cd (if they are still around) from memory cap it has...tha u said... all of this just makes me laugh...
      If any of these consoles were updateable and backwards comp. It wouod be tits for the consumer. Horrible still for business. They each need to make a universal propriety system that can encorporate all of this. The cloud will help both ms and sony out with this tremendously. Unfortunatly with sony. They stepped back a lil with the ps3 going with the crazy cell . But the pres at the time had big envisions for it and I wish the concept ps3 made it with all the hw and not what we have today. Ms might have a foot ahead in what this all can be. I bet the next gen ps5 and xbox 2?!?!?. Will ne the start of a upgradeable console and being all cloud.

      Still laughing

    110. daveyp187
      11-30-2013
      12:53 PM
      110

      Nice little find

    111. aries2k
      12-01-2013
      04:34 PM
      111

      Well although my Aopen BD-ROM drive was able to read ps3 disc, it seems it can�t read ps4 games.. I also tried on my LG bd-rw even though that one didn�t read ps3 disc either.
      too bad. I was curious as to the ps4 game structure
      so if these dumps are real, they must have used some trick.
      has anyone had a look at the game files? I�m just curious if it follows the ps3 game structure.

    112. arcadekidflo
      12-01-2013
      06:38 PM
      112

      So when you insert a disc into PS4 you can't actually play from the disk but are required to install it to HDD ? That would mean that on a 500GB system you could only play up to 10 games , that's like cutting their own revenue

    113. Sublyminal
      12-02-2013
      01:13 AM
      113

      Originally Posted by arcadekidflo
      So when you insert a disc into PS4 you can't actually play from the disk but are required to install it to HDD ? That would mean that on a 500GB system you could only play up to 10 games , that's like cutting their own revenue


      You are required to cache a majority of the game to your HDD. I'm not sure if after each session the cache is deleted or what, as I always forget to check whenever, I exit out of a session of CoD or KZ. From what I can tell though, since I upgraded my CoD Ghosts to the PS4 version, you need to always have the disc in the drive in order to be able to play your game. Now, I'm guessing if someone can manage to spoof the drive into thinking that the correct disc was in the drive, then we would be in business, after of course we figured out how to copy the files over to the hard drive.

    114. MaxFire
      03-01-2014
      12:50 PM
      114

      So has anybody confirmed...is this working or we will w8 for 2 be hacked.....iam just asking...

    115. rednkecowboy
      03-02-2014
      08:52 AM
      115

      Originally Posted by MaxFire
      So has anybody confirmed...is this working or we will w8 for 2 be hacked.....iam just asking...
      Is what working???? All these are is game dumps, you would still need a way to play them. Game disc was dumped for the Wii U just after release and we still haven't a way to play it......almost 1.5 years later!

    116. ModderFokker619
      03-02-2014
      12:36 PM
      116

      Its working and we have to wait....

    117. tjhooker73
      03-02-2014
      02:21 PM
      117

      Just announced 4Key :-P jk

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    118. ModderFokker619
      03-02-2014
      02:34 PM
      118

      Originally Posted by tjhooker73
      Just announced 4Key :-P jk

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      Sh1t i'm still waiting for the wii-u key.

    119. fyajansari
      05-30-2014
      06:22 AM
      119

      which torrent site???