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Narcarsiss 09-30-2011 01:54 AM

Hackers at fault, not Sony
 
From Radioshack we have this nice little article some of you may enjoy.

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Australian Privacy Commissioner Timothy Pilgrim found that Sony Computer Entertainment Australia (SCE Australia) did not breach the Privacy Act when it fell victim to a cyber-attack.

Original Article

pbanj 09-30-2011 02:00 AM

im sorry but sony is at fault they knew of the security hole months before psn was hacked so yes they are at fault

OoZic 09-30-2011 02:11 AM

The costs of the security hack are now 177 million + bribes (money under the table) for senior officials ;)

Alexerer 09-30-2011 02:22 AM

Sony should have reacted faster. This is what actually stood out to me. Sony either monitor your darn network better or wake up from your egotistical ways and start caring about the consumers of your products.

Narcarsiss 09-30-2011 02:23 AM

No matter how secure a server is, it will always be hackable it just takes someone with a little time and knowledge of how to violate the server to get the information they wanted. where is the evidence that they knew of the holes and risk of a potential hack?

i do believe Sony is at fault but you must admit it is mostly the hackers fault for doing it. yes?

I think what shocked me the most was the fact that the infomation was not encrypted! WTF sony

KillerBug 09-30-2011 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Narcarsiss (Post 257526)
No matter how secure a server is, it will always be hackable it just takes someone with a little time and knowledge of how to violate the server to get the information they wanted. where is the evidence that they knew of the holes and risk of a potential hack?

i do believe Sony is at fault but you must admit it is mostly the hackers fault for doing it. yes?

I think what shocked me the most was the fact that the infomation was not encrypted! WTF sony

Back to the bank analogy....

If you build a bank with no vault and home security system from 1990, and then leave piles of money everywhere for no reason whatsoever, then yes...the people who rob you are criminals...but are they really at fault? After all, there are lots of criminals in the world and you only have your one bank. If you had done the security better the theft probably wouldn't have happened...but if the people who robbed you had not robbed you, someone else would have.

I'll go one farther than that...suppose you manage a bank with great security. One day the security company shows up and tells you that they found a flaw in the design of the security that has been posted online for millions to see, and that they want to fix it for free. You respond by having a security guard escort them out. Every week they come back, saying the same things every time. After about 6 months of this your bank gets robbed by a criminal that used the information that had been online for 6 months. Are you liable for that robbery? At the very least, won't the police suspect that you you might have had something to do with the robbery since you were so intent on letting it happen?

pbanj 09-30-2011 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBug (Post 257545)
Back to the bank analogy....

If you build a bank with no vault and home security system from 1990, and then leave piles of money everywhere for no reason whatsoever, then yes...the people who rob you are criminals...but are they really at fault? After all, there are lots of criminals in the world and you only have your one bank. If you had done the security better the theft probably wouldn't have happened...but if the people who robbed you had not robbed you, someone else would have.

I'll go one farther than that...suppose you manage a bank with great security. One day the security company shows up and tells you that they found a flaw in the design of the security that has been posted online for millions to see, and that they want to fix it for free. You respond by having a security guard escort them out. Every week they come back, saying the same things every time. After about 6 months of this your bank gets robbed by a criminal that used the information that had been online for 6 months. Are you liable for that robbery? At the very least, won't the police suspect that you you might have had something to do with the robbery since you were so intent on letting it happen?

you sir just made my night high five o/

Alexerer 09-30-2011 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBug (Post 257545)
Back to the bank analogy....

If you build a bank with no vault and home security system from 1990, and then leave piles of money everywhere for no reason whatsoever, then yes...the people who rob you are criminals...but are they really at fault? After all, there are lots of criminals in the world and you only have your one bank. If you had done the security better the theft probably wouldn't have happened...but if the people who robbed you had not robbed you, someone else would have.

I'll go one farther than that...suppose you manage a bank with great security. One day the security company shows up and tells you that they found a flaw in the design of the security that has been posted online for millions to see, and that they want to fix it for free. You respond by having a security guard escort them out. Every week they come back, saying the same things every time. After about 6 months of this your bank gets robbed by a criminal that used the information that had been online for 6 months. Are you liable for that robbery? At the very least, won't the police suspect that you you might have had something to do with the robbery since you were so intent on letting it happen?

^^ that makes a lot of sense, the analogy not what sony did lol

SpecialK79 09-30-2011 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBug (Post 257545)
Back to the bank analogy....

If you build a bank with no vault and home security system from 1990, and then leave piles of money everywhere for no reason whatsoever, then yes...the people who rob you are criminals...but are they really at fault? After all, there are lots of criminals in the world and you only have your one bank. If you had done the security better the theft probably wouldn't have happened...but if the people who robbed you had not robbed you, someone else would have.

I'll go one farther than that...suppose you manage a bank with great security. One day the security company shows up and tells you that they found a flaw in the design of the security that has been posted online for millions to see, and that they want to fix it for free. You respond by having a security guard escort them out. Every week they come back, saying the same things every time. After about 6 months of this your bank gets robbed by a criminal that used the information that had been online for 6 months. Are you liable for that robbery? At the very least, won't the police suspect that you you might have had something to do with the robbery since you were so intent on letting it happen?

couldnt have put it any better, sony were useless! just hope theyve learnt their lesson (but i really doubt this)

KillerBug 09-30-2011 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SpecialK79 (Post 257555)
couldnt have put it any better, sony were useless! just hope theyve learnt their lesson (but i really doubt this)

Considering that they got hacked like 6 more times over the next 2 months, I would say that they didn't learn a thing...other than to hide a clause in the TOS to prevent lawsuits.


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