Originally Posted by KillerBug
I have had more than my share of friends addicted...no one to tramadol, mostly to H, C, and Meth. They have all tried to quit multiple times, and only 5 of them have been able to quit using hard drugs.
The first two died of overdoses after months of AA and severe relapse...obviously not the way you want to quit using.
The third got locked up for traffic...while there are some drugs in there, there really are not enough to keep someone addicted. Again, not an ideal situation; he will be over 60 by the time he gets out.
The last two did gradual step-down programs...both from H. They slowly reduced dosage over the course of almost a year...eventually stepping down to Vicodin, which they spent a long time on as well. Last, they both went to massive doses of THC. They are both still potheads...but it isn't physical addition...they just can't exist without drugs anymore because of what that s**t did to their brains. They are both in serious risk tho...if that supply dries up, they will probably start climbing the ladder again.
As for myself, it was Crystal...backed down to C and slowly lowered the dose, then spent about a month on various forms of portable real estate with enough trees for a forest, then backed down to weed only, then gave that up too. It wasn't easy...and it still isn't easy...but at least I didn't change my whole brain to the point that I need drugs forever just to get by...Crystal is terrible if you keep using, but opiates are almost as bad even if you quit.
I have heard some great things about ibogaine...but I don't know anyone who has tried it. Just be really careful about how you introduce the idea; you don't want your friend thinking that you are forcing it on him. Opiates change people in ways you wouldn't expect...and I honestly don't know if ibogaine does a true reset for this, or only for the chemical addition. It might just be that your friend will still need something...but a friend who needs weed to cope with life is a lot better than a friend in a box.
Meth turns people into klepto ****roaches, I'd rather be a lazy ****in stoner than a roach wandering the night in the shadows avoiding bright lights and stealing peoples things and pawning them off for more of the drug.
I hope your friends are also pot farmers, endless supply ftw.
Tweek is just as wack as crack, I wouldnt want anyone I love or respect touching that ****, its hard enough watching a friend I consider a brother do that **** with his 'customers'. I dont see how he can live with himself selling those roach crystals ugh.