i have no problem with dongle makers, i have a problem with so called respected self righteous "scene" members turning into hypocrites for the sake of money when not so long ago they actually WERE open and honest about things. well you can be sure that if/when a free method is out there will be one scene site in NO rush to frontpage it. i wont mention the name but many know which it is edit.... just seen the post above mine and LOL