Well its only opinions after all right. I just believe that it should not be a good thing to be the person whom got it out first regardless of the methods used. Sounds like too many people are doing alot of waiting but nobody is doing the job. We cant let the world go to hell because nobody can do things for themselves! Im not doing name calling either, there is alot of people who have talent with other things besides tech, thats how it works. But there is alot who are fully capable and just dont lift a finger. But do you blame them. They watch someone steal from them, and then go on to soak it up like a sponge. Watching everyone praise just because they got their "fix" from whoever came first, even then only to Oliver it up a month later. Id sit back and kick that damned bucket too if it didnt pick up ri9ht qu1ck. Thats what makes it a "Scene".....we all love it or wed all leave. So lets deal with it lol.