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Originally Posted by svenmullet Let me know when all the BS is over. @zadow28 : apparently, you need to release working P.O.C., or the 1337 d3v5 will troll/slander you. I suspect that if oct0xor had just posted a bunch of ida databases from the ps3usercheat dongle, they'd have called it fake too. Food for thought. @1337 d3v5: You can't have it both ways... put up or shut up. If you don't want to be part of the scene by actually destroying this DRM bullsh1t, then leave us to our failures. "That's wrong, but I'm not going to tell you what's right" is not helpful, in fact, it's the opposite of helpful. And telling us to read the wiki is dumb; for one, the overwhelming majority of people who read the wiki (myself included) do not understand or know how to utilize the info in there. For two, if there was info in there that would lead to open solutions to the dongle problem, someone would have done it already. It is *not* the be all end all of PS3 knowledge, and it is useless for the average end user. I don't doubt that many "devs" in the "scene" know exactly how to accomplish what cobra/TB is doing, but they won't say because they are either in on it themselves, don't care about the scene, or are protecting sony and game devs from piracy. Guess what? Piracy already exists, in fact, the worst form of it exists (pay-for-piracy). You are not protecting sony/the game industry from anything, the only people you are protecting is TB. If you don't care about the scene, why do you suddenly care when someone posts dongle-cracking infos? Which brings us back to point 1: why are you protecting TB? Once again, either shut up completely and let us flounder, or drop the bombshell, kill off the dongles, and gain our infinite respect. Just don't pop up every time someone "releases" something and call it fake. That is what's known as "trolling". And if you don't know how to kill the dongles, well, how do you know if it's fake/useless or not? Do you see the predicament you're in? Your little coven/mutual admiration society means *nothing* to the average end-user unless you release working solutions, not trolololing "fake!" posts. I'm not telling anyone to release anything, I'm telling you that *unless you do so*, you are nothing to us. Past deeds only go so far, I don't think of Thomas Edison every time I flick a light switch.

Nice say , nothing more too say !!! The last big great Dev for me in this scene was graf chokolo, take a example from him.
Btw. I think its better to close this thread now or change the Titel please, at the moment truly leads to misleading.