[GregoryRasputin]

Those of us, looking forward to 1080p 3D games will be disappointed, as it appears we wont be getting them, games that are natively 1080p, will have a downscaled 3D version, this problem isnt a hardware limitation, it is due to Sony's guidelines on 3D games.

Sony representative Simon Benson confirmed this during the Develop conference, here is a quote of what he said:

Sony's Simon Benson explained during a demo of the technology at the conference. While the PS3 is capable of displaying a 1080p 3D image -- indeed, it will support 3D Blu-Ray movies at that resolution later this year -- Benson said upping the resolution comes at the expense of the silky-smooth 60 frames per second available at 720p (Blu-Ray movies run at 24 frames per second). Benson said that a "more cinematic game" might be well-suited for the lower frame rate and higher resolution, but that Sony's current guidelines for 3D games wouldn't allow for such a setting. The effects of this policy are probably unnoticeable to most gamers. Benson said that, in 3D, even trained computer graphics artists could barely tell the difference between the resolutions.

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[SuperDre]

BS, it's a hardware limitation... If you can get a game to run at at least 60fps on 1080p sony is more than happy, but getting 3D running at 60fps at 1080p is just too much for the PS3 which already has trouble running a regular game at 1080p.

[cruisx]

Professor SuperDre, which University do you teach at? You must have a PhD to make assumptions like that. And its not like your gonna be playing 3d games all the time, so do sent really matter. Not much difference in games when it comes to 1080p and 720p ( In most titles anyway you wouldn't really notice )

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by SuperDre which already has trouble running a regular game at 1080p.

My PS3 doesn't have any trouble running 1080p games.

[splodger15]

Originally Posted by SuperDre which already has trouble running a regular game at 1080p.

Mine doesn't , If you don't have a 1080P tv it won't run the game in 1080P format.

[Qraze1]

mine works fine.
i played genesis and nes on black and white tv's and didn't complain.
if 3d gaming is good 3d, maybe i get new 3d tv for 3d gaming in 3d living room.
new ps3 disgeia will be 3d so.................................................4D!

[SuperDre]

Originally Posted by cruisx Professor SuperDre, which University do you teach at? You must have a PhD to make assumptions like that. And its not like your gonna be playing 3d games all the time, so do sent really matter. Not much difference in games when it comes to 1080p and 720p ( In most titles anyway you wouldn't really notice )

I'm sorry but the difference between REAL 1080p and 720p is just as much difference as between SD and 720p.. upscaling 720p to 1080p is just like upscaling SD to 720p, it looks good enough, but seeing it native resolution is a big BIG difference (at least when you've got a decend sized tv (40" and upward))..
What do YOU call it if a console can't run something natively at 1080p at 60fps because it isn't powerfull enough to handle that resolution at that framerate? in my book you call that a hardware limitation, nothing more, nothing less.. So if that makes me a professor to be able to come to such a conclusion, than I'm really sad for you.

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin My PS3 doesn't have any trouble running 1080p games.

Show me which games run in REAL 1080p, almost every PS3 games runs natively on 720p (or even less) and then being upscaled to 1080p (only a couple of PSN-games which haven't got a lof of objects/complexity run in 1080p natively (which doesn't mean they aren't just as fun as a game which does have so much complexity)).
The PS3 just isn't powerfull enough to run any game at real 1080p resolution (just like the xbox 360 also isn't) at least not with all the splendor/objects and at 60fps.. Games like killzone 2, god of war 3 and uncharted 2 are all running at 720p native resolution and are being upscaled to 1080p..

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by SuperDre Show me which games run in REAL 1080p.

Warhawk
Wipeout HD
Wolf of the Battlefield: Commando 3
Virtua Fighter 5
Virtua Tennis 3

[SuperDre]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin Warhawk Wipeout HD Wolf of the Battlefield: Commando 3 Virtua Fighter 5 Virtua Tennis 3

WarHawk and Virtua Fighter 5 both run 720p native resolution and are upscaled to 1080p.. the other 3 are correct..

[GregoryRasputin]

I may have been wrong about Warhawk and Virtua Fighter, but the fact remains, that some very good games run at 1080p, like:
GT5 Prologue
Ridge Racer 7
GT5 will also run natively at 1080p, when it is released.

Im sure i could find more, but i don't need too, i have already proven that some great games run without any problems at 1080p.

EDIT:
Red Dead Redemption, is another game that runs at 1080p natively.