[darkfroggy]

S.o.n.y.w.a.r.s----) Attack of the Clone hackers Episode 1

One day one boy called Luke Geohot learned his force to unleashed the force against the Emperor.The Emperor heard what was going on,so he released his bounty hunter for Young Master Geohot.But Master Geohot was not afraid of the emperor so he hacked the device so called PayStation3.The Emperor got more fury so fury and that his people was so against his Policy Terms. For the Emperor he did not care and continue his quest for another plan............

Coming Soon Episode 2 : A NEW DARTH HATER ???

[Willie C.]

If SONY is to be scared there is 1 thing that can do it. Bring the Enola Gay out of moth balls and tell them it will bomb them (again).

[TehAwesome]

Saw this quote:

"it's one thing if these people were on a Sony premises announcing their findings without consent. Sony would have the right to tell you to leave. This is not the case"

and immediatly thought of this quote:...dang. can't find the quote. But it was somebody on here blathering about how they were going to take all of the info about OFW/CFW and homebrew and how to install and blah blah blah and put it on a usb stick or something like that, go down to the sony store and give it away to everybody...

And what is all this talk about "if one dev falls, another will take his place"... If it were really that easy to code for the PS3, don't you think the scene would be moving much quicker then it is, with a LOT more prevalent names as well?..

And the "its my machine, I can do what I want" mentality holds no water for me either. Since the fated day on April 1st, 2010 when Sony removed the otherOS option, roughly 1,644,000 PS3's have been sold. That's a whole lot of people who don't care about the otherOS option. But let's be realistic. They advertised linux on the PS3 and took it away. That's not exactly fair. Then along came fail0verflow who gave us the tools to put it back on. This next part is important here..

People started complaining "can I play my backups on PSN! (read as "Can I cheat while playing my pirated copy of MW2 on PSN?")...so next came the backup manager apps and that is when things went from 'homebrew' and 'otherOS' to Sony trying to protect it's profit margin.

Dangnabbit. My steak is now done and I've lost my train of thought, but if you really hate Sony, I'll buy each of your PS3's for a single dollar. That'll really show em how much you hate them. Any takers?

[advocatusdiaboli]

Sony does not admit to receiving money for their sale of PS3s, and still claim ownership through their redonkulous efforts. This alone is both trespassing and also taking into their "own hands"

Do you want to live in a world such as this?

If you buy a knife and the knifesmith wants you to only cut their artificial beech tree with... they can claim you broke the terms of use if you cut regular beech tree with it?!?

I vote for death penality for Sony in this case, attempting to do monopoly in a free market.
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Originally Posted by Willie C. If SONY is to be scared there is 1 thing that can do it. Bring the Enola Gay out of moth balls and tell them it will bomb them (again).

We’d need the LATLONG for that to happen.
Fear was always a control factor.

What I was hoping for was understanding.

Sony to sell their consoles always scammed off the initial home computer market and therefor owes the market in terms of marketing act to stimulate to the level of the precursor artifacts in the market such as VIC-20, Commodore 64, Amiga 500 and others.

The users believe that the world has progression.

Therefore it is wrong to remove development features for the boxes that are plugable to the TV. There is also an environmental aspect of this feature removal; people will end up having more boxes in the living room, adding power consumption.

[smeppy]

To anyone getting sued under U.S law that doesn't reside in the U.S they should consider getting a knowledgeable lawyer and forcefully reminding Sony of, subject matter jurisdiction, which means.
The basic foundation for an attack on a claim, brought against foreign defendants in U.S. Courts, is that subject matter jurisdiction does not exist over a claim of foreign copyright infringement.This is so because the “copyright laws do not apply extraterritoriality, each of the rights conferred under [the Copyright Act] must be read as extending ‘no farther than the [U.S.] borders.

This even applies to us supreme court cases.

The Supreme Court recently reminded us that “it is a long-standing principle of
American law ‘that legislation of Congress, unless a contrary intent appears, is
meant to apply only within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.’ ”
EEOC v. Arabian American Oil Co. ( Aramco ), 499 U.S. 244, 248, 111 S.Ct.
1227, 1230, 113 L.Ed.2d 274 (1991) (quoting Foley Bros., Inc. v. Filardo, 336
U.S. 281, 285, 69 S.Ct. 575, 577, 93 L.Ed. 680 (1949)). Because courts must
“assume that Congress legislates against the backdrop of the presumption against
extraterritoriality,” unless “there is ‘the affirmative intention of the Congress.
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Essentially what Sony wants to establish is that we cant modify the Playstation, due to the fact that we don't own the system. Apparently we are leasing it since we agreed to the EULA upon boot up. That lead's me to believe that since we LEASED these systems and don't own them. We should be provided legal exemptions for damage to the system relating to faulty design. Meaning repairing unchargeable controller's due to dead batteries. Fixing faulty Blu-ray drives instead of charging to repair them, replacing faulty power supplies. Fixing or replacing faulty consoles with YLOD. FREE replacements for people whose console was bricked as a result of an OFFICIAL firmware update.

When you sign a lease for an auto or apartment you are entitled to specific consumer protections not afforded to people that purchase. Like, oh I don't know, NOT REMOVING FEATURES THAT WERE IN THE ORIGINAL TERMS OF THE LEASE. If I truly am leasing this piece of consumer electronics, then why did I have to pay full retail price when I purchased it?. Instead of paying a reduced rate, lets say a small percent of cost of production, think somewhere between 10 and 20 percent. Followed by monthly payments until the lease term ends, upon which I return it to Sony, or I pay a balloon payment that results in TOTAL UNFETTERED OWNERSHIP. Check out car leases for a rough example. What exactly am I getting for my four hundred dollars. Other than a sore rectum.

If the argument is that I am leasing the code that execute's on the system instead of the system itself. Then I would expect to be provided with an alternative from Sony that allows me to run my own code, on the system instead of the code they ship it with. Like something, that might be, LINUX BASED.

Please read DMCA page 1088 section 3. This part of the law states that computer code is protected speech covered under the first amendment of the U.S constitution. It even cites Bernstein vs Department of Justice, specifically covering an encryption algorithm, ( not Sony's forte apparently ) that Mr Bernstein wrote. That, coincidentally, the U.S government didn't want him to distribute.

If Sony wants to wrangle legalese in U.S courts, they better be prepared to back up their mindless drivel with something other than buckets of cash funneled into reelection campaigns for a sorry excuse of a handful of hackneyed judge's, with the constitutional education of a roundworm. The judicial system is intended to serve the people, not a large multinational conglomerate...

[gambit01dc]

---S.O.N.Y ---why cant they live up with the hackers???are they not happy that their console now adays sold alot due to the effort of people who cares for the consumer public???...GREEDINESS:thefinger: the root of evil that sony wants to be...people are buying ps3 now a days because of GRAF--WANIN--KMEAW---THE MASTER GEOHOT!!...solid effort to make the console more useful to the ownership of every human being who bought their product,so whats their problem???paranoid that,a oridnary human being that cannot wear such creepy outfit that they wear,will turn their console around???MAN!!!S.O.N.Y,,BARE IN YOUR :thefinger: MIND"YOU DAMN,FU$%&*# ASH$%#LES YOU DONT OWN THE WORLD!!!!!,your just people like us in this community...take this"you will regret the peoples anger if you take down,the people your gettin into right now....WW3 VS. S.O.N.Y!!!

[VideoX]

Originally Posted by Willie C. If SONY is to be scared there is 1 thing that can do it. Bring the Enola Gay out of moth balls and tell them it will bomb them (again).

Just remembered this: South Park's Enola Gay

Sorry, couldn't help it

Ontopic:

I still don't quiet get which is Sony's position on the PS3, a retail product or a leased product. Also, the PS3 is still refered as a "Home Entertainment System" or now can it be called "Home Computer" as it's always been?.

[SuperDre]

after all if one goes down we all know 3 other will pop up in his place.
Oh yeah, because we already seen that happening.. NOT!
It takes knowledge and time, and a lot of people don't want to invest time like the current 'hackers' have. Also if all major players on the PS3 scene are succesfully sued (which at this moment we all might think impossible) it will prevent other hackers from publishing etc (because if you loose it will cost you a lot of money). Also the current scene isn't big at all, yeah there are some people who develop hacks, but most of them are based on information already provided by the ones that are currently sued, so with a new protection and those original people not available it will be hard to find people willing to invest all that time with such prospects of being sued..

[sayargh]

Originally Posted by SuperDre Also if all major players on the PS3 scene are succesfully sued (which at this moment we all might think impossible).

It IS impossible, they all live in different countries which have different laws, some of them more than likely permit what these guys are doing.

As for the knowledge thing, well these guys have already laid the foundation, and released the tools, its foolish to think it would take just as long to create a new ps3 hacker as one of these guys.

[lewislowlife]

Why is everyone moaing... i mean yh hacked console can be good buut sony need the games and money to keep the system alive!!

the psp just went dead due to homebrew and darkalex, the ps3 is a bigger thing but game devs will soon start to think wait i can make for 360 and make a fair amount of profit or develop for ps3 and i dont know loose 10% profits?

all the good games will soon die for ps3 mw2 already has

so stop ****ING moaning you just killing the console dicks.