[Pockets69]

you do realize that the guy they said was geohot has uploaded that PIC from Massachusetts, how could he have been on Massachusetts if he is from NJ, i recomend you to read with more attention this thread. bickmaniac or whatever is called is not geohot! this was mr townsend trying to fool everyone, but we are not stupid, i am sorry mr townsend we do not buy your bull****!
Interesting video BTW

[Thelostdeathknight]

@thecyndicate

why the hell would people take a vacation in a place they have been multiple times......BORING.
Personally if i was going on vacation i would go somewhere i have never been before, do things i haven't done before. As for staying in the state he doesn't live in cali, he lives in jersey across the damn country. the way you're arguing just living in jersey makes him look bad. If i had a vacation planned, being sued in a civil case or not, i wouldn't let some jerk like sony cost me more money than they already are or ruin plans i have had since before they got a bug up their bum about me. If he told his lawyers what he was up to it's all good because they are his legal representation and they can let the court know for him since they can speak on his behalf.

As for the PSN account, if my 8 year old cousin created an account on my ps3 does that mean i am responsible for it, HELLZ NO!

and actions do speak louder than words and you say you support him but your actions say you hope sony wins.

[Mystt]

Bottom line about Geohotz vacation since it's pointless to argue it; you will know if its a vacation if HE COMES BACK. And here's another thing, this is a CIVIL suit, not criminal, so far Geohotz has not been charged with a criminal offense. Therefor all this hype on if he comes back, when he comes back, running not running is all MEANINGLESS.. Geesh.

Also Geohotz is allowed to have attorney's represent his case while away. He does not have to be at the trail itself. Hell even in criminal court, you are no longer liable to be at the trail, you can just send in a live video feed and that's enough, so long as the judge grants. Well so far, I haven't seen a judge tell George to get back. CAUSE IT'S NOT ILLEGAL. Wow... It's been 2 days, and frankly it's sad the amount of people care that he's out of the US. And those arguing he ran, yea you care.. So what... It's not you on trail, and if you don't break the law, you will not be.

May I also point out Geo was arrogant with Apple and won; not only did he win, his case got the law amended to allow jail-breaking on cell phones. That is an accomplishment that will have weight on this case, and regardless of whether or not he commits perjury, lies, is arrogant, didn't even hack the PS3 originally; who's to say he doesn't have a chance against Sony? Who else has stood up in the courts to fight these corporations and won against 1 of em, no one posting here I can tell ya that?

As for perjury prove to freaking courts it IS perjury. That's Sony's lawyer's job, not anyone here. So again, WHO CARES?! Debate the case sure, but don't comment on useless stuff that really has a)no bearing and b)no necessity. It only adds unnecessary bickering that is time better of spent playing games. Which is what we love, no?

[TheСуndicate]

Originally Posted by Thelostdeathknight @thecyndicate why the hell would people take a vacation in a place they have been multiple times......BORING. Personally if i was going on vacation i would go somewhere i have never been before, do things i haven't done before. As for staying in the state he doesn't live in cali, he lives in jersey across the damn country. the way you're arguing just living in jersey makes him look bad. If i had a vacation planned, being sued in a civil case or not, i wouldn't let some jerk like sony cost me more money than they already are or ruin plans i have had since before they got a bug up their bum about me. If he told his lawyers what he was up to it's all good because they are his legal representation and they can let the court know for him since they can speak on his behalf. As for the PSN account, if my 8 year old cousin created an account on my ps3 does that mean i am responsible for it, HELLZ NO! and actions do speak louder than words and you say you support him but your actions say you hope sony wins.

Dude, you are just making excuses for him.

Every single person, ON EARTH, knows NOT to leave the area, during trial.

If you do not have the sense to understand and follow this rule, when other people's fate also hangs on your actions, then evolution should step in and present the Darwin award to you.

He could have had a vacation ANYWHERE in the US, we have plenty of amazing places to visit.

At least that wouldn't look as bad.

Again, you people are ALL hyped up about wanting the PS3 dev scene to continue, and you will say ANYTHING to back him, because somewhere in your mind, you think that the more backing you give him, the better his chances at winning, or you at least hope you influence his chances to win the case.

As far as your nit picking about what state he is in, if you go back and read my comment, you will see that I was talking about the general rules and common sense on how you should act, while you have a court case in progress. It was NOT a statement just about George. It was a common sense outline.

On top of that, you don't know WHEN he planned the trip.
His claim could be just another lie, like everything else.

Not to mention, we don't even know if he is using the donated money for the trip or not. Until he proves otherwise, I am going to assume he did.

It is NOT his attorneys job, to notify the court or the court clerk that he is leaving, it is his job to not only notify the court, but to ask them before attempting to leave. I am sure his attorney outline the court notification rules, when they were hired.

As far as what you said about the PSN, has you read my entire post, you would have seen that I agreed with you.

As far as you saying that I claim to support him, that is false in the way you phrased it.

I support his attorneys and hope they win the case, in spite of the idiot.

He(AND US) would not even be in this mess, had it not been for his vanity.

[japsander]

Originally Posted by thecyndicate Every single person, ON EARTH, knows NOT to leave the area, during trial.

the trial has not even started. Sony are still trying to get proof that geohot should go to court in California. without jurisdiction granting he can't be tried anywhere yet.

now as for your apparent hatred of him, seriously you are acting like a jilted lover.
we all know he is a ****y ******* but you are acting as if his ego is a personal attack on you.

[Wolfie708]

@TheCyndicate

Stop making judgements about everyone here and labelling them all the same "Again, you people are ALL hyped up about wanting the PS3 dev scene to continue, and you will say ANYTHING to back him, because somewhere in your mind, you think that the more backing you give him, the better his chances at winning, or you at least hope you influence his chances to win the case."

I have a brain and am more than capable of using it without your superior tone.

As to this comment you made "It is NOT his attorneys job, to notify the court or the court clerk that he is leaving, it is his job to not only notify the court, but to ask them before attempting to leave. I am sure his attorney outline the court notification rules, when they were hired."

Of course it it his attourneys job to notify the court of any possible problems or changes in his availability. The court deals directly with his attourneys not him.

[englishtrog]

Originally Posted by inkblot007 You are correct, a ToS is not legally binding. For any document on the planet to be legally binding, it must be authorized or endorsed by a Judge. It's pretty damn simple. This is how business functions. The agreement is only "binding" once a Judge says it is. Before that, it is just paper with signatures. Here is a good example, what happens if a person signs onto PSN and is a minor? What if they do not speak english but use an english console? Things like this is why our court systems to not provide the power of Judge and Jury to corporations. ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* It's kinda of hard to understand what you are asking. You can not be "deported" or sent anywhere to stand trail in a civil suit. You don't even have to show up. You would lose instantly of course, but you don't have to show up. Sony wants California jurisdiction because it is the most corporate friendly jurisdiction for Sony. They would not want a state like Utah, because they are significantly more person/little guy oriented. Everything that is happening right now is to determine where the fight is going to be staged. Sony want's California and GeoHot wants his home state - because GeoHot would have a much better chance of winning there.

i still dont get what the psn has to do with it. psn=california, no psn=home town. what does psn have to do with the original claim by sony about geohot fiddling with the ps3 code.
it might be me being thick but im confused as to why its geohot in the docks.
failoverflow ripped the ps3 apart
geohot took that code and made a cfw
companies took that cfw and made dongles with it and made money from it.
......but geohot could be hung(figuratly speaking) for a psn account.

[OoZic]

Originally Posted by englishtrog i still dont get what the psn has to do with it. psn=california, no psn=home town. what does psn have to do with the original claim by sony about geohot fiddling with the ps3 code. it might be me being thick but im confused as to why its geohot in the docks. failoverflow ripped the ps3 apart geohot took that code and made a cfw companies took that cfw and made dongles with it and made money from it. ......but geohot could be hung(figuratly speaking) for a psn account.

Accepting the ToS of PSN makes it a binding contract between SCEA (SCEx) and you is what Sony says. With this "binding" contract the lawsuit has to be held in the state of the accuser, otherwise in the state of the defendant.
The state of California is Pro big corporations and Anti personal freedom so this is why SCEA wants the lawsuit at California. And this is also why the state of California is almost bankrupt: http://endoftheamericandream.com/arc...ornia-bankrupt , all the money goes to the big corporations like SCEA and not to the people or the state
Ow, and the dongles were before Geohot his 3.55 CFW to be correct. No dongle manufacturer used Geohot his CFW 3.55 code, they al used code based on Sony's own JIG board in combination with Geohot his original 3.15 hack discoveries long time ago ( a year )
also impossible because dongles don't work anymore after 3.41 because Sony has blocked this.

[TheСуndicate]

japsander and Wolfie, you need to wipe your chin, you have some GeoJuice on it.

I don't have any hatred for the guy,...YET.

I have a problem with someone acting like a moron, when his actions will end up affecting so many other people around the world.

I'll tell you what, if you EVER get into legal trouble and a Trial date is set, you just go right on ahead, and go to South America and see what happens.

[japsander]

Originally Posted by TheСуndicate japsander and Wolfie, you need to wipe your chin, you have some GeoJuice on it.

my poor misguided friend, you still miss the point ive always said. I DO NOT LIKE GEOHOT, you are either to stupid to understand it or too lazy to read the comments i say. i have an objective viewpoint on these situations.

this fight was going to happen with or without geohot wether you like to admit it or not. what would you have any hacker do when taken to court? would you have them bend over the dock and lube up? is that what you would do? being a self proclaimed scene founder you must know......

i would rather have someone fight for us who isnt afraid to back down

ok, now that ive said it (yet again) i would like to ask you something. why are you not going all out on failoverfl0w? their "epic fail" speech and explanation did infinately more harm than a crappy rap video but yet i dont see you condemning them at all.

announcing it to the world in the way they did, awarding piracy trophies and such was a lot more damaging to sonys ego, their pockets and indeed their credibility. you cannot deny this.

my previous point to you still stands, while many of us dont like geohot, you seem to hold a personal grudge toward him. you act as if he himself did all this and the whole world is revolving around him and his rap video., is this jealousy, did his 3.55 hack force you to lose money on anything you were planning to do?

and as for your previous comments about "a certain moderator" i stand by his decision when he banned you.
1. you showed no respect
2. your ego seemed to take over your brain
3. you threatened to get the site forced down
4. you even go so far as to show your elite egotistical skillz by using a vbulletin exploit to gain access to your old username.

who does that sound like to you when you combine those points?
yes that is correct, YOU = GEOHOT

now i do believe that you have a bit of youjuice dribbling down your chin