[Pockets69]

Originally Posted by englishtrog because its not a supercomputer!

yes! nice answer, just shows how much you know about the machine you own!

i find amazing that everyone here is contradicting you, but you still say whatever you want, it just shows ignorance you know, its worst not being able to admit that you are wrong, then to be wrong because you don't have knowledge.

[englishtrog]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin Now you are just being stupid, i will respond no more to you, as you clearly have an inability to understand anything and that inability is making you ignorant to the people trying to explain to you. pockets69, don't explain any more, he doesn't possess the mentality to understand.

i laughed at that, very loud. its not a supercomputer because it only has 512mb of ram, windows 7 needs atleast a gig. on the other hand you might be able to install linux then virtualbox, but again the ram might hold it back. even if the ram was not a issue then you would still have problem because of the ps3 cpu architecture. windows 7 works on a x64 and x86, linux and ubunto just happen to have the right ppc to run on a ps3. thats why its not a supercomputer and thats why its a games console.

dont act like we are idiots because we dont agree with the same as you. i have done my reading millions of times when my fav sites have been down. i read a article that said that the otheros was made for students, people got upset because when it was taken away in a update some of the students had not finished their work. when the university asked sony first they said for security reasons then they told them it was for safety reasons.
i didnt dream all this up, then it would be rubbish. you read somewhere thats its a super computer, ive read somewhere its a games console. just because you disagree does not make you right!!!!!!

enough said really!!!

you replied whilst i was typing, as you can see by the above i was being sarcastic!
i know more than enough about my machine

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by Pockets69 yes! nice answer, just shows how much you know about the machine you own!

Because i know my history on the PS3, i will posts some quotes from the masters of the PS3.

Quote 1.
This is a quote from the father of the Playstation, its creator, its originator, so you know, he knows what the hell he is talking about:

Originally Posted by Ken Kutaragi Since PS3 is a computer, there are no "models" but "configurations"", and continuing (though talking in the theoretical): "I think it's okay to release a [extended PS3] configuration every year!

Quote 2.
This is also from Ken Kutaragi

Originally Posted by Ken Kutaragi As PS3 is a computer... it also wants to evolve. We'll want to upgrade the HDD size very soon - if new standards appear on the PC, we will want to support them. We may want the [Blu-ray] drive to [have a writable version upgrade].!

Quote 3.
This is from

Originally Posted by Phil Harrison We believe that the PS3 will be the place where our users play games, watch films, browse the Web, and use other computer functions. The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC

Now i know from your post's, you are the ignorant type, you will say both those guys are wrong to, but who cares, i guess we find it slightly amusing that you are being stupid about the whole thing.

[SuperDre]

Originally Posted by englishtrog i laughed at that, very loud. its not a supercomputer because it only has 512mb of ram, windows 7 needs atleast a gig. on the other hand you might be able to install linux then virtualbox, but again the ram might hold it back. even if the ram was not a issue then you would still have problem because of the ps3 cpu architecture. windows 7 works on a x64 and x86, linux and ubunto just happen to have the right ppc to run on a ps3. thats why its not a supercomputer and thats why its a games console. dont act like we are idiots because we dont agree with the same as you. i have done my reading millions of times when my fav sites have been down. i read a article that said that the otheros was made for students, people got upset because when it was taken away in a update some of the students had not finished their work. when the university asked sony first they said for security reasons then they told them it was for safety reasons. i didnt dream all this up, then it would be rubbish. you read somewhere thats its a super computer, ive read somewhere its a games console. just because you disagree does not make you right!!!!!! enough said really!!! you replied whilst i was typing, as you can see by the above i was being sarcastic! i know more than enough about my machine

You really have ABSOLUTELY no clue what you are talking about, most 'SuperComputers' don't run windows at all.. So because it can't run windows it isn't a supercomputer? what a dimwit you are.. A Supercomputer can also be a gamesconsole (if you write the correct software for it). also the ammount of memory isn't important to be called a supercomputer..

just a few reading links for an ignorant B like you:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/bu...ercomputer/220
http://www.physorg.com/news148749271.html
http://arstechnica.com/security/news...er-efforts.ars
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/05/07/...uter-clusters/
http://www.ps3cluster.umassd.edu/

http://www.ps3station.com/playstatio...rcomputer.html


Now, I go watch a movie or play a game on my supercomputer..

[englishtrog]

i might have read wrong again but didnt the creator of the ps3 also say it was unhackable?

maybe thats me reading it wrong again!
the ps3 has some of the same funtion of a pc, but its not a computer!

a definition of a computer is not to play games and upgrade a hdd. the definition of a computer is a programmeable machine that respond to new instructions that it is given. a ps3 cannot do this.
a computer can execute a programmed list of instructions. a ps3 cannot do this.
a pc can have its internal organs ripped out, upgraded and so on. a ps3 cannot do this.

im pretty sure the handfull of people you have picked out know there buisness, and see the ps3 in a different light to......lets say a zx spectrum. but to compare the ps3 as a computer as its known today, they are wrong.
the main fundimental reason why the ps3 is not a computer is for the following reasons:
the ps3 cannot have all its parts upgraded and changed. a pc can
the ps3 cannot run and install a endless catalogue of programmes for its os. a pc can
the ps3 can not have its os changed at the owners will. the pc can
on the other hand the ps3 is a multimedia player with web browsing capabilities, which by the way i cannot change it to google chrome like i can with my pc

if the ps3 was just a extension of the dual core 4 gig laptop i have on my knee then why would i pay £300 for a ps3 when i can buy a pc for half the money?

the ps3 is a awesomw games console not a super......s******!!!....computer!!!

@superdre, i didnt say that a supercomputer runs windows 7, these arguements are getting better and better. but, ill bet you my sony playstation games console that i can install anything on a supercomputer that i tell it to. for some reason my games console wont let me do that
all i will say i must have been robbed when i bought my games console. a super computer with 512mb or ram, i was ripped off. i demand my money back from sony.
i love it, the first link you posted."take 8.......8 ps3's", hahahahahahahahahahaha
if i glued 3 mini's together im sure i could make a people carrier, hahahahahahha, does not make it a people carrier it makes it 3 minis stuck together to look like a people carrier......8 ps3's. so your arguement now is that my ps3 is not a super computer, but if i connect 8 together.....hahahahahahahaha!
and the second link.....8, if memory is not a issue then maybe my laptop could be turned into a super computer, or even.........my ps3 with 512mb of ram not the 1-3petabyte that is needed. well. well well, you learn something new everyday.
the reason why the links you gave says you need 8 ps3's is because portentially all the ram added together will make a blacked amount of ram, and with the technically know how you could use that 8 ps3's combined abilities to make a super computer....ish!
do i even need to read anymore?

[GregoryRasputin]

Great post SuperDre, that last link is what ive been looking for, for my PS3 history, thanks.

Id also like to add something further.
What is a Supercomputer:
""A supercomputer is a computer that is at the frontline of current processing capacity, particularly speed of calculation.""
Note that that says PROCESSING CAPACITY, it doesn't mention ram, why because ram isn't necessarily important.

What Operating Systems do Supercomputers run:
""Supercomputers today most often use variants of Linux""
You notice the word LINUX.

Both the above quotes, explain exactly what the PS3 is.

[englishtrog]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin Great post SuperDre, that last link is what ive been looking for, for my PS3 history, thanks. Id also like to add something further. What is a Supercomputer: ""A supercomputer is a computer that is at the frontline of current processing capacity, particularly speed of calculation."" Note that that says PROCESSING CAPACITY, it doesn't mention ram, why because ram isn't necessarily important. What Operating Systems do Supercomputers run: ""Supercomputers today most often use variants of Linux"" You notice the word LINUX. Both the above quotes, explain exactly what the PS3 is.

again your arguments get worse and worse. so ram is not a neeeded to build a supercomputer!
if something can install linux then its a supercomputer.

my 10 month old son plays with a supercomputer!!!!....wow!
a bus has seats and so does my car that makes it bus.hahaha
you are just using stupid comparisons to try and win a pointless arguement. i thinks its a games console you think its a super computer, good luck to you!
but i dont mind continueing.
so its not power or what you can get a machine to do its the fact it can install linux that makes it a super computer.
im still laughing at a quote from the maker of the ps3, like anything he says can be taken as gospel

[japsander]

Originally Posted by englishtrog i might have read wrong again but didnt the creator of the ps3 also say it was unhackable? maybe thats me reading it wrong again! the ps3 has some of the same funtion of a pc, but its not a computer! a definition of a computer is not to play games and upgrade a hdd. the definition of a computer is a programmeable machine that respond to new instructions that it is given. a ps3 cannot do this. a computer can execute a programmed list of instructions. a ps3 cannot do this. a pc can have its internal organs ripped out, upgraded and so on. a ps3 cannot do this. im pretty sure the handfull of people you have picked out know there buisness, and see the ps3 in a different light to......lets say a zx spectrum. but to compare the ps3 as a computer as its known today, they are wrong. the main fundimental reason why the ps3 is not a computer is for the following reasons: the ps3 cannot have all its parts upgraded and changed. a pc can the ps3 cannot run and install a endless catalogue of programmes for its os. a pc can the ps3 can not have its os changed at the owners will. the pc can on the other hand the ps3 is a multimedia player with web browsing capabilities, which by the way i cannot change it to google chrome like i can with my pc if the ps3 was just a extension of the dual core 4 gig laptop i have on my knee then why would i pay £300 for a ps3 when i can buy a pc for half the money? the ps3 is a awesomw games console not a super......s******!!!....computer!!! @superdre, i didnt say that a supercomputer runs windows 7, these arguements are getting better and better. but, ill bet you my sony playstation games console that i can install anything on a supercomputer that i tell it to. for some reason my games console wont let me do that all i will say i must have been robbed when i bought my games console. a super computer with 512mb or ram, i was ripped off. i demand my money back from sony. i love it, the first link you posted."take 8.......8 ps3's", hahahahahahahahahahaha if i glued 3 mini's together im sure i could make a people carrier, hahahahahahha, does not make it a people carrier it makes it 3 minis stuck together to look like a people carrier......8 ps3's. so your arguement now is that my ps3 is not a super computer, but if i connect 8 together.....hahahahahahahaha! and the second link.....8, if memory is not a issue then maybe my laptop could be turned into a super computer, or even.........my ps3 with 512mb of ram not the 1-3petabyte that is needed. well. well well, you learn something new everyday. the reason why the links you gave says you need 8 ps3's is because portentially all the ram added together will make a blacked amount of ram, and with the technically know how you could use that 8 ps3's combined abilities to make a super computer....ish! do i even need to read anymore?

Originally Posted by englishtrog programmeable machine that respond to new instructions that it is given

in one word, everything that has happened homebrew wise, CFW wise is new and new fw updates etc are new

Originally Posted by englishtrog a pc can have its internal organs ripped out, upgraded and so on. a ps3 cannot do this.

we are not talking about an everyday home, upgradeable pc, rip your laptop/netbook open and upgrade all of its components if it is a real computer

Originally Posted by englishtrog if the ps3 was just a extension of the dual core 4 gig laptop i have on my knee then why would i pay £300 for a ps3 when i can buy a pc for half the money?

by what you say, that what you have on your lap is not a computer either

Originally Posted by englishtrog the ps3 cannot run and install a endless catalogue of programmes for its os. a pc can

incorrect, linux can install almost any app and run it with no problems

Originally Posted by englishtrog the ps3 can not have its os changed at the owners will. the pc can on the other hand the ps3 is a multimedia player with web browsing capabilities, which by the way i cannot change it to google chrome like i can with my pc

linux has any browser you want, different distros of linux, almost every app there is for linux could be run on the ps3. how is this not a computer?

Originally Posted by englishtrog if memory is not a issue then maybe my laptop could be turned into a super computer

you make your computer handle a cell cpu and it will happen


you really have no idea what you are talking about im afraid.
a computer doesnt need to be able to be upgraded hardware wise like a standard pc, is a laptop a computer, or how about a solid state pc? of course they are. what about the computer systems in a car/aeroplane/missile etc, the list goes on. just because you are blinded by the stereotypical pc in most peoples houses does not take away the fact that the ps3 "was/should still be" a computer.

compare the speed of cell cpu and the ram the ps3 uses to your ram and cpu in your pc.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by englishtrog you are just using stupid comparisons to try and win a pointless arguement.

Im glad that you acknowledge that it is a pointless argument, simply because you have had your brain electrocuted and don't understand anything...

[samson]

@ englishtrog

DUDE i beg you please go educate yourself on otherOS, linux, why sony sucks.. and why graf is a true god-like genius super hero
(writing drivers in his head... wtf .. how???)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_on_the_PlayStation_3
follow the links and USE google well, spend a few days, weeks .. look up the ps3's hardware .. rsx, the ibm cell and how it works in a way that it is future-proof and how sony restricted it!! READ what it can do.. AND WILL DO better with grafs work.. (read his blog & his comments) your just making yourself look more foolish with every pointless post.

guys just dont feed XD you cant stop people being waaaaay to stupid for there own good..