[Pockets69]

Originally Posted by englishtrog but hey i dont know what im talking about.

Thank god, you said it!

yeah i bet those warez friends of yours know much more than the people that allow you to play your warez...

[Wolfie708]

Originally Posted by englishtrog indeed they do, thats why im universal mod, but hey i dont know what im talking about.************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* i like that, you name a guy that if you dont agree with him your gone. i dont agree with supercomputer, im wrong. could not have used a better comparison myself

That is the ONE genuine thing you have said, even if it was attempted to be sarcastic lol

[japsander]

Originally Posted by englishtrog indeed they do, thats why im universal mod, but hey i dont know what im talking about.

you see, you finally agree.
thank you, it must have taken a lot to admit you know nothing.

you just care about games it's clear you have no knowledge about the rest.
the whole world is wrong because you have no idea how to use something? LOL

[Annelies]

Originally Posted by japsander you see, you finally agree. thank you, it must have taken a lot to admit you know nothing. you just care about games it's clear you have no knowledge about the rest. the whole world is wrong because you have no idea how to use something? LOL

I can't believe the quarrel between PS3Hax.net (basically the whole site) and Englishtrog lasted this long. Never in my years of posting on forums have I seen something like this.

[Pockets69]

yeah it is hard to believe...

[englishtrog]

Originally Posted by japsander wikipedia supercomputer states the cell processor, it even states game consoles and most run Linux. next time you claim to have read something, at least read it first. A supercomputer is a computer that is at the frontline of current processing capacity, particularly speed of calculation The term supercomputer itself is rather fluid, and the speed of today's supercomputers tends to become typical of tomorrow's ordinary computers. Modern video game consoles in particular use SIMD extensively and this is the basis for some manufacturers' claim that their game machines are themselves supercomputers. Supercomputers today most often use variants of Linux.[3] as shown by the graph to the right. (for your benefit over 90% of the worlds supercomputers use Linux) supercomputers are particularly suitable for parallelization (in essence, splitting up into smaller parts to be worked on simultaneously) and, in particular, fairly coarse-grained parallelization that limits the amount of information that needs to be transferred between independent processing units. For this reason, traditional supercomputers can be replaced, for many applications, by "clusters" of computers of standard design, which can be programmed to act as one large computer. Cell is a microprocessor architecture jointly developed by Sony Computer Entertainment, IBM, and Toshiba, an alliance known as "STI". The architectural design and first implementation were carried out at the STI Design Center in Austin, Texas over a four-year period beginning March 2001 on a budget reported by Sony as approaching US$400 million.[1] Cell is shorthand for Cell Broadband Engine Architecture, commonly abbreviated CBEA in full or Cell BE in part. Cell combines a general-purpose Power Architecture core of modest performance with streamlined coprocessing elements[2] which greatly accelerate multimedia and vector processing applications, as well as many other forms of dedicated computation.[2] sorry for the copy paste but you did not read the while thing

thats the wiki i read and to quote the very first line!
wikipedia supercomputer states the cell processor, it even states game consoles and most run Linux.

its saying games console, ps3 for this thread, have the same cell proccessors that are in a list with of prosessing power has a supercomputer. nowhere in that list does it say supercomputers are as follows......
Cray, IBM and Hewlett-Packard,(i copied and pasted that time).....ps3. it does not happen
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Originally Posted by japsander you see, you finally agree. thank you, it must have taken a lot to admit you know nothing. you just care about games it's clear you have no knowledge about the rest. the whole world is wrong because you have no idea how to use something? LOL

again the word wrong, i never used the word wrong. your not wrong for thinking your ps3 is a supercomputer. i dont see my ps3 as that.
this has gone on for so long because of this im right your wrong attitude, i never used that attitude. ive said time and time again i would love to own a supercomputer, i dont see it. why? because the only thing that has been used to link the ps3 and a supercomputer is the cell prosessor. it takes more than that to make a supercomputer. if you dont think so then fine. no problem!

[Wolfie708]

Originally Posted by englishtrog thats the wiki i read and to quote the very first line! wikipedia supercomputer states the cell processor, it even states game consoles and most run Linux. its saying games console, ps3 for this thread, have the same cell proccessors that are in a list with of prosessing power has a supercomputer. nowhere in that list does it say supercomputers are as follows...... Cray, IBM and Hewlett-Packard,(i copied and pasted that time).....ps3. it does not happen ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* again the word wrong, i never used the word wrong. your not wrong for thinking your ps3 is a supercomputer. i dont see my ps3 as that. this has gone on for so long because of this im right your wrong attitude, i never used that attitude. ive said time and time again i would love to own a supercomputer, i dont see it. why? because the only thing that has been used to link the ps3 and a supercomputer is the cell prosessor. it takes more than that to make a supercomputer. if you dont think so then fine. no problem!

Just what are you talking about????

You even quote the line and highlight the relevant part that agrees with what we are trying to tell you???

[englishtrog]

Originally Posted by Wolfie708 Just what are you talking about???? You even quote the line and highlight the relevant part that agrees with what we are trying to tell you???

i must need glasses. what part of what i highlighted says the ps3 is a supercomputer?
it doesnt!!
it says the proccessor is used, just like aerplane chips can be used a coffeemachine(example before anyone says "your wrong they use aircraft carrier prosessors"). you have taken the only simularity to a supercomputer and made that your basis for why im wrong.
*sits back and waits for his coffee machine to fly around the room*

[japsander]

you claimed the ps3 was not a computer, is that not saying we are wrong? you said wikipedia was wrong and basically the rest of the world who's benchmarks prove beyond a doubt that when the ps3 was released it was a supercomputer, it is still on par with today's high end computer systems.

you say you don't "see" it as a supercomputer which is fine, it's a personal opinion but you "stated" that it is "not" a computer at all

oh and as for your comment about the processor. the cell is the heart of the computer as I hope you know and it does all the computations.

the CPU makes the supercomputer, the rest if the hardware is there to support it

[Wolfie708]

Originally Posted by englishtrog i must need glasses. what part of what i highlighted says the ps3 is a supercomputer? it doesnt!! it says the proccessor is used, just like aerplane chips can be used a coffeemachine(example before anyone says "your wrong they use aircraft carrier prosessors"). you have taken the only simularity to a supercomputer and made that your basis for why im wrong. *sits back and waits for his coffee machine to fly around the room*

Ok, English lesson time, and I really hope you can read the English language correctly as it IS a wonderful thing.

Fluid means not fixed, in this context it means that we cannot seprately catergorise any specific rules to what makes a super computer beyond the fact that it is capable of doing things that cannot be done with the same ease or abilty as a 'run of the mill' computer. The PS3 system can (CAN, not does, as software is needed for any task to be performed) do things that 'run of the mill' computers are either incapable of, or cannot do with the same ease.

You refuse to accept that anything that does not fit your opinion may be correct and so must be false, and please note, I have not used the word wrong as there is a huge difference between false and wrong.

You originally refused to even class the PS3 as a computer at all and kept quoting PC this and PC that. I had an ZX Spectrum many years ago and that was a computer and Not a PC. It also could not do almost all the same things you use to deny the PS3 being a computer, but there is NO doubt or argument that the ZX Spectrum was a computer is there?

I have tried to make these couple of points as simple as possible whilst keep them factual, but if you still fail to understand, then I Truly Do believe you have a mental problem. That is not intended as an insult in Any way, but your inability to understand both English and the idea of difference and fluidity in this context cannot be taken to mean anything else.