[vp5665900]

Sounds like they won't be makeing a ps4 lol think sony should just make there electronics shut up and leave the system game alone everyone keep your fingers crossed for a new atari LMAO

[DaveOMac]

oopa has another theory on what happened and I think it is absolutely brilliant. The post is here: http://psx-scene.com/forums/807063-post61.html

Could be plausible on why Sony is moving the servers to a more "secure location" either way great read, love the bulldozer part.

[carldenning]

Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt Thanks I know what I'm buying next generation.

this is why i hate games that only made for one console eg socom is a ps3 consloe game only and i love all the socom games . so i still buy a sony ps4 buy it will be 2nd hand and what ever socom that is out then that be 2nd hand , looks like im stuck with sony till socom stops bein made

[Da ToxicFox]

The person who did this has done a lot of damage to Sony and to people who have a PSN account. From the looks of things even if you deleted your card info it could of still been stolen cause Sony didn't delete it. This thief is bad for everyone and I don't think anyone should support what they have done.

If you had your card on PSN get a new card and block the old one before it can be used cause cleaning it up after its been used is far from easy. My brother had his card jacked and it was a mess.

[Wolfie708]

Personally I'd be hoping my account was compromised and things were being bought on my card (I never signed up with my details). Yes, it causes a lot of hassle and even heartache, but at end of the day this is covered by law. The company who has lost your details is the one who has to sort it all out and being told to change your card etc is not an acceptable way as what about all the other bills you pay with that card?

Just inform your card supplier and tell them what has happened (state the first possible date, February if I remember correctly?) and you may be at risk (I did say this back when the first wee tiny hint was announced). After that it is between your card supplier and Sony. If your card supplier cancels your card for you and supplies you with another you just bump it back to Sony and ask for compensation for your time and any subsequent distress they have caused you regardless of whether you lose money or not.

It does work this way, you just have to stand your ground and push for it.

[Da ToxicFox]

Originally Posted by Wolfie708 Personally I'd be hoping my account was compromised and things were being bought on my card (I never signed up with my details). Yes, it causes a lot of hassle and even heartache, but at end of the day this is covered by law. The company who has lost your details is the one who has to sort it all out and being told to change your card etc is not an acceptable way as what about all the other bills you pay with that card? Just inform your card supplier and tell them what has happened (state the first possible date, February if I remember correctly?) and you may be at risk (I did say this back when the first wee tiny hint was announced). After that it is between your card supplier and Sony. If your card supplier cancels your card for you and supplies you with another you just bump it back to Sony and ask for compensation for your time and any subsequent distress they have caused you regardless of whether you lose money or not. It does work this way, you just have to stand your ground and push for it.

If your card got stolen use another card for your other bills and ask for a new card. If you try and get Sony to pay for damages after it gets used you'd be locked in a court case where you'll lose more money. Your credit card company won't fight for you if you tell them what happen odds are they'll ask if you want a new card. If you say no they aren't going to fight Sony when bad charges start popping up. They will probably lock your card and you'll have to call them to unlock it or get a new card. Taking care of the card is really your job not your card company's they just lend a hand with things. They protect you by locking your card when a questionable charge pops up and offer new cards to people who have lost or had their card stolen.

If you have sex with someone who has a STD and doesn't tell you its not just his fault you got the STD its yours for not protecting yourself.

[jojobanin]

[Mystt]

Also to follow up on wolf's comment; if you were smart and bought Credit Card insurance, they'll replace any used portions of your credit in question, without asking any questions. That's how it is with both my Mastercards any how.

Still Sony will eventually be found liable to some degree throughout the courts. In the meantime I really hope most people had insurance on their cards.

[Prince Valiant]

Originally Posted by Da ToxicFox If your card got stolen use another card for your other bills and ask for a new card. If you try and get Sony to pay for damages after it gets used you'd be locked in a court case where you'll lose more money. Your credit card company won't fight for you if you tell them what happen odds are they'll ask if you want a new card. If you say no they aren't going to fight Sony when bad charges start popping up. They will probably lock your card and you'll have to call them to unlock it or get a new card. Taking care of the card is really your job not your card company's they just lend a hand with things. They protect you by locking your card when a questionable charge pops up and offer new cards to people who have lost or had their card stolen. If you have sex with someone who has a STD and doesn't tell you its not just his fault you got the STD its yours for not protecting yourself.

Indeed.

Who would be stupid enough to sell a list of millions of credit card numbers?

[Wolfie708]

Which part of 'After that it is between your card supplier and Sony' do some people struggle with understanding?

And as to the STD comment, that is stupid as to all intents and purposes Sony Did ensure safety as they Have to follow the same online sale and purchase rules as everyone else.

It is attidtudes like this and the 'oh well, it may have happened so I will bend over backwards to help them' that let big companies get away with it so easily.

My cards are covered by the same guarentees as anyone elses (UK at least) and whether you believe it or not, you Do actually have some power, all you have to do is stand up and use it instead of rolling on the floor like a pet puppy.

Sorry if that sounds insulting, but this will sound worse... Grow a spine and stand up for yourself. If you were served a meal in a restaurant that was riddled with maggots would you just not eat it and pay for a new meal? That's is MY ridiculous comparison btw, but at least mine makes sense.