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Old 06-02-2011   #11
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If the US government does not shut down Sony, someone else should.
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Old 06-02-2011   #12
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Originally Posted by KingKush View Post
Its not pointless, its hurting Sony where it hurts most the pocket book. you have to understand corporations have no souls and treat their customers like crap because there isn't enough competition to off set the balance...
People are sheep though. How much does something like this actually affect a big company like Sony. How many Bluray movie sales does this affect, how many TV sales does this, affect how many [enter Sony product type here] sales does this affect? Yes it will damage Sony's reputation but for how long? How many kids(customers) were screaming "When is PSN going to be online?" The people forget things so damn quickly once they hear the words: "We have fixed the problem, but we have also added extra security measures for your safety".

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Have you ever considered some rouge groups could very well be government black flag operations inflicting damage on its own partners to strengthen its position for further control of the ppl with such bills. Its classic warfare, scare the ppl into submission... Problem reaction Solution, first you create the problem then you scare the ppl then offer a solution, get what you want and be a hero what else could you want. This method is used allot just open your eyes....
Actually yes that thought has crossed my mind, that however doesnt go against what I was saying. Either way whether being a Black Flag Op to fuel a campaign idea/parliamentary bill/funding or a rogue group for our freedoms feeding fuel to the fire it still points to a future internet that will be censored and watered down with edited information that is deemed suitable for the masses.
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Old 06-02-2011   #13
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Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
A wee bit paranoid, but I do agree the point is valid
Source: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/tonkin-g.asp

President Johnson's Message to Congress August 5, 1964

Last night I announced to the American people that the North Vietnamese regime had conducted further deliberate attacks against U.S. naval vessels operating in international waters, and I had therefore directed air action against gunboats and supporting facilities used in these hostile operations. This air action has now been carried out with substantial damage to the boats and facilities. Two U.S. aircraft were lost in the action.

After consultation with the leaders of both parties in the Congress, I further announced a decision to ask the Congress for a resolution expressing the unity and determination of the United States in supporting freedom and in protecting peace in southeast Asia.

These latest actions of the North Vietnamese regime has given a new and grave turn to the already serious situation in southeast Asia. Our commitments in that area are well known to the Congress. They were first made in 1954 by President Eisenhower. They were further defined in the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty approved by the Senate in February 1955.

This treaty with its accompanying protocol obligates the United States and other members to act in accordance with their constitutional processes to meet Communist aggression against any of the parties or protocol states.

Our policy in southeast Asia has been consistent and unchanged since 1954. I summarized it on June 2 in four simple propositions:

America keeps her word. Here as elsewhere, we must and shall honor our commitments.

The issue is the future of southeast Asia as a whole. A threat to any nation in that region is a threat to all, and a threat to us.

Our purpose is peace. We have no military, political, or territorial ambitions in the area.

This is not just a jungle war, but a struggle for freedom on every front of human activity. Our military and economic assistance to South Vietnam and Laos in particular has the purpose of helping these countries to repel aggression and strengthen their independence.

The threat to the free nations of southeast Asia has long been clear. The North Vietnamese regime has constantly sought to take over South Vietnam and Laos. This Communist regime has violated the Geneva accords for Vietnam. It has systematically conducted a campaign of subversion, which includes the direction, training, and supply of personnel and arms for the conduct of guerrilla warfare in South Vietnamese territory. In Laos, the North Vietnamese regime has maintained military forces, used Laotian territory for infiltration into South Vietnam, and most recently carried out combat operations - all in direct violation of the Geneva Agreements of 1962.

In recent months, the actions of the North Vietnamese regime have become steadily more threatening...

As President of the United States I have concluded that I should now ask the Congress, on its part, to join in affirming the national determination that all such attacks will be met, and that the United States will continue in its basic policy of assisting the free nations of the area to defend their freedom.

As I have repeatedly made clear, the United States intends no rashness, and seeks no wider war. We must make it clear to all that the United States is united in its determination to bring about the end of Communist subversion and aggression in the area. We seek the full and effective restoration of the international agreements signed in Geneva in 1954, with respect to South Vietnam, and again in Geneva in 1962, with respect to Laos...

Joint Resolution of Congress H.J. RES 1145 August 7, 1964

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

That the Congress approves and supports the determination of the President, as Commander in Chief, to take all necessary measures to repel any armed attack against the forces of the United States and to prevent further aggression.

Section 2. The United States regards as vital to its national interest and to world peace the maintenance of international peace and security in southeast Asia. Consonant with the Constitution of the United States and the Charter of the United Nations and in accordance with its obligations under the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty, the United States is, therefore, prepared, as the President determines, to take all necessary steps, including the use of armed force, to assist any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty requesting assistance in defense of its freedom.

Section 3. This resolution shall expire when the President shall determine that the peace and security of the area is reasonably assured by international conditions created by action of the United Nations or otherwise, except that it may be terminated earlier by concurrent resolution of the Congress.

Conclusion Vietnam war...
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Old 06-02-2011   #14
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WoW ,lol they got them again .Just found the file elsewere & damn there not kidding ! passwords,names etc ... I can not help to love all this hacking on sony .If Fony would have just left people alone ,they would not be hacked every other day . There you go SONY ,this is your fault ,nobody elses .You wanted to play god = this is what you get .There is only #1 god & you sony are not him. You have violated to many people & made them out to be crimanals ,so you get what you give !!! have a nice time with this sony .I personally hope you lose a serious amount of money fighting this = you messed with the wrong ???? 2 bad now your damage has been done. Bet sony wishes they would have mind there own damn buisness now hugh .. suckers get burned !!
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maybe we should asked them to get those 3.61 keys why they were at it, what you say boys how about those encryption keys next time cheers lol...
I dont see why they couldnt ...lol
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After several months without P$N I forgot my password, now let's see if I can find it back in this non-protected information

Now will every Sony employee who regrets the removal of OtherOS put his/her hand in the air? ..... stop, stop, this is way to much work, 100.000's hands. Please put your hand in the air if you like the OtherOS removal and this results.... Ah, that's much better, only a few Sony bully's and some money-hungry lawyers left
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Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
A wee bit paranoid, but I do agree the point is valid
Yes the last case I remember was a little thing called 9/11

Though there is another case currently being reviewed, the SHIELD Act, which would make it illegal for any media to publish any of the US leaked secrets and abuses etc.

Please Americans wake up and realise you are losing your rights! This act is a clear violation of the first amendment. Also look up the Espionage Act of 1917, again a violation of your rights to defy the USG and the military even if they do things the people do not agree or condone!
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maybe we should asked them to get those 3.61 keys why they were at it, what you say boys how about those encryption keys next time cheers lol...
Hell yeeah give us please and i salute you boys for doing this. These A-Holes deserves it, bring em down totaly
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somehow their website lulzsecurity was brought down.
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