[advocatusdiaboli]

Originally Posted by OoZic I have used mushrooms in the past and they helped a lot. Problem is they aren't legal anymore here in the Netherlands (what is...).

It’s fully possible to buy grow kits in The Netherlands; and mushrooms in the form of spores.

If you are a Dutch citizen you should still be able to buy psilocybe shrooms spores for your own grow kit, non-dutch citizens however are no longer allowed. That’s why shrooms are no longer sold as a finished product due to tourists attempting to fly off the small bridges in the red light district into the small rivers.

Perhaps at AMC they can help you out medically?

[superfurry]

Mushrooms are not gunna make you feel happier haha that's bull****, it depends on the person but if your feeling down your gunna have a bad trip pretty much most of the time and will just make you worse.don't take mushrooms or smoke weed when your depressed , really bad idea mate


Sent from my iPad standing outside your house, in that little bush in your garden

[OoZic]

Originally Posted by superfurry Mushrooms are not gunna make you feel happier haha that's bull****, it depends on the person but if your feeling down your gunna have a bad trip pretty much most of the time and will just make you worse.don't take mushrooms or smoke weed when your depressed , really bad idea mate Sent from my iPad standing outside your house, in that little bush in your garden

To fight a depression you are right.

In my case it is different. The pain of the cluster headache depresses me the most. And believe me, not many people know how much pain it can give. It doesn't get the name "suicide headache" for nothing. Before there was a kind of treatment people killed themselves because of the horrible pain.

Mushrooms contain psilocybin. This widens the blood vessel in my head making the pain go away. And if the pain is away it makes me happy, not the effect of the mushroom. The part mushroom I used to use doesn't even have real influence on normal people. And i only have to use it a few times a year, not with every pain attack.

And I have tried every kind of medication and way of living to take the pain away. I even tried pain medication (codeine) my mom used for the pain of cancer. They had no effect at all.

[japsander]

Well I'm going to Amsterdam for this weekend.
I'm hoping a good old smoke of nice weed will kick me out of my anxiety problems, especially as busy it will be.
Its been helping with my depression in conjunction with my SSRI meds . Meds alone get me stressed out later in the day but with a smoke I chill and relax

Mushrooms were a very bad idea when I tried them. The lord of the rings 3 movie freaked me the hell out. Frodos hair was the most terrifying thing I had ever seen.

[Mackdanny]

Originally Posted by japsander Mushrooms were a very bad idea when I tried them. The lord of the rings 3 movie freaked me the hell out. Frodos hair was the most terrifying thing I had ever seen.

Dang man, makes me laugh, not at you but with you if you may

[advocatusdiaboli]

Originally Posted by OoZic Mushrooms contain psilocybin. This widens the blood vessel in my head making the pain go away. And if the pain is away it makes me happy, not the effect of the mushroom. The part mushroom I used to use doesn't even have real influence on normal people. And i only have to use it a few times a year, not with every pain attack.

I read that when Horton breaks loose and you do LSD; you do not get to enjoy the hallucinogen, but only enjoy the pain relief.

I’m happy I don’t have Horton’s

[stuck?]

Originally Posted by advocatusdiaboli There are two things that can help the depression: Expose your body to sunshine for 5 - 30 mins pr day. Physical Workout The first one gives your body vitamine D The other one just makes people happy in general.

Actually, I was just reading up on that not too long ago. And my mom is into all sorts of crazy natural healing things. She bought me a kind of lamp thing, that simulates sunlight, but with a very bright, blue light. And like you mentioned, you're supposed to absorb about 30 minutes of that light a day, in the mornings, or evenings before bed.

I kept saying to my ex I should be using it, but, never did. Turned out she was the one constantly being negative, not me :P like she would so harp on! Gonna give that a try, thanks for reminding me.

And, the working out, definitely. My body is so ****ed up, from these last 5-10 years, I need to do something fast.

@AliMoose That's great; I love to write too (as you can see from some of my responses). More specifically though, I'm a short story/poetry person. Haven't written too much lately but I definitely need to get back into it.

Back in highschool, (i think i told this story) I was referred to the english head @ our university, and never followed up on it. Kicking myself in the ass now. Feels good to put the personal experiences into music or words. Just something, satisfying about it. I don't write too much about personal things, although I save my personal stuff for my "Depression Binder" and write, pretty much just comical music. Just me and my acoustic (sometimes electric) guitar.

Originally Posted by advocatusdiaboli It’s fully possible to buy grow kits in The Netherlands; and mushrooms in the form of spores. If you are a Dutch citizen you should still be able to buy psilocybe shrooms spores for your own grow kit, non-dutch citizens however are no longer allowed.

You can buy grow kits off the internet too. My old buddy did that, had a room full of tubs full of shrooms. And then his roommate contaminated the grow op.

I believe also, that it's perfectly legal to posess the "magic" mushrooms ONLY if they're wet/damp/moist/etc. If they're dried and ready to eat theyre damn illegal. But that's up here in Canuckland.

Originally Posted by superfurry Mushrooms are not gunna make you feel happier haha that's bull****, it depends on the person but if your feeling down your gunna have a bad trip pretty much most of the time and will just make you worse.don't take mushrooms or smoke weed when your depressed , really bad idea mate

I feel friggin awesome when im shroomin. I've NEVER had a bad trip. And the one time where it might even be classified as a bad trip, nothing bad happened. Just thought I'd be stuck like that forever lol. Of course, eating a half ounce to yourself isn't the best idea for novices :P But i've dabbled many times.

I feel so much smarter, more alive. I can do things that I wouldn't normally ever do. Filled with so much confidence and awareness. And playing Air Hockey on shrooms is so much fun. So much chaos, so many innocent people getting hurt haha.

As well, I find that when I'm down, and smoke pot, my depression flys right out the window. I'd like to say im not your stereotypical stoner. I dont veg out and play video games all day/night; dont sleep all the time, im active, I have a job (well 2), I can have intellectual conversations. Ive never felt worse after smoking pot. Not once.

I find people make the same kind of analogy with heavy metal music. Since everything is vibrations, and energy, the constant noise and archaic sounds coming from all this extremely loud, aggressive music and growling screeching vocals logically, should mess you up internally, as we all are made of energy. There were studies done with water crystals being exposed to different types of music. And when there was classical music or something soft played, the water crystals were more.. pretty and organized. But when they were exposed to heavy metal and extreme music, the water crystal patterns were all over the place and chaotic.

My point, is that metal has the opposite effect on me. It will lift me higher than any trampoline, or positive thought. I get such a rush listening to my favourite guitarists wank away, or just a great metal act sloshin away on stage, or a studio disc.

But, thats just me. My mom is different as all the heavy music frazzles her nerves and makes her extremely uncomfortable.

Originally Posted by japsander Well I'm going to Amsterdam for this weekend. I'm hoping a good old smoke of nice weed will kick me out of my anxiety problems, especially as busy it will be. Its been helping with my depression in conjunction with my SSRI meds . Meds alone get me stressed out later in the day but with a smoke I chill and relax Mushrooms were a very bad idea when I tried them. The lord of the rings 3 movie freaked me the hell out. Frodos hair was the most terrifying thing I had ever seen.

Anxiety, definitely. Pot definitely rids me of mine too. I don't like to go out to public places, or anywhere where there's groups of people. Really freaks me out, and my heart starts beating so fast, and I get very anxious. If I smoke, it takes a LOT of it away, but I have the initial feeling.

Mushrooms are not for everybody. It completely alters your perception of everything around you, and heightens all sensations. It could be very scary to lots of people. I love it. I'm so fascinated as to how much it opens up. How much of your body and mind you don't use.

[Wolfie708]

No story from me just a personal quote......

'Why fix something that does not need fixing? We are all broken in one way or another, and the people who do not think they are just delude themselves. It is not about fixing ourselves here (or anywhere else for that matter) but about finding the one who is broken in a way that fits perfectly with us.'



My own words to someone who thinks they need fixing. Read into it what you may.

[superfurry]

Originally Posted by japsander Well I'm going to Amsterdam for this weekend. I'm hoping a good old smoke of nice weed will kick me out of my anxiety problems, especially as busy it will be. Its been helping with my depression in conjunction with my SSRI meds . Meds alone get me stressed out later in the day but with a smoke I chill and relax Mushrooms were a very bad idea when I tried them. The lord of the rings 3 movie freaked me the hell out. Frodos hair was the most terrifying thing I had ever seen.

mate have the thai ones or the mexican ones although , the best ones are the british ones to be fair if you want to have a really good trip
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Originally Posted by OoZic To fight a depression you are right. In my case it is different. The pain of the cluster headache depresses me the most. And believe me, not many people know how much pain it can give. It doesn't get the name "suicide headache" for nothing. Before there was a kind of treatment people killed themselves because of the horrible pain. Mushrooms contain psilocybin. This widens the blood vessel in my head making the pain go away. And if the pain is away it makes me happy, not the effect of the mushroom. The part mushroom I used to use doesn't even have real influence on normal people. And i only have to use it a few times a year, not with every pain attack. And I have tried every kind of medication and way of living to take the pain away. I even tried pain medication (codeine) my mom used for the pain of cancer. They had no effect at all.

yeah i know where your coming from i had an accident on a bus when i was about 3 and banged the bridge of my nose of the old metal handles , after that until i was about 20 i had very very serious migraine but i kinda grew out of them . Yes they probably would help a headache but not if your depressed, your gunna be in for a bad one most probably anyhow i wouldn't recommend them they can mess with your head if your susceptible to that kinda thing

[OoZic]

Originally Posted by superfurry yeah i know where your coming from i had an accident on a bus when i was about 3 and banged the bridge of my nose of the old metal handles , after that until i was about 20 i had very very serious migraine but i kinda grew out of them . Yes they probably would help a headache but not if your depressed, your gunna be in for a bad one most probably anyhow i wouldn't recommend them they can mess with your head if your susceptible to that kinda thing

That is why advocatusdiaboli his post was a kind of interesting, it lead me to this info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-Bromo-LSD

I have Horton's since 1997 and used all kind of drugs to fight the pain. Never had a bad trip. The worst I had was in the beginning, I thought I was on a kind of house party with all the booming in my head for 3 days. and that was on legal medication from the doctor....

they say Horton's will go away if the patient gets older. Above 50 or so the pain and attacks get less and less. I'm almost 44 so I have to wait a few more years