[pepethedon]

"HAIL $ony, masters of the pocket book! Big Brother of the electronics world!"

WE WILL NEVER BE YOUR $LAVES! EA games suck balls anyway! YOU CAN KEEP EM!
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Originally Posted by hanzoverfist bravo well said.

TOTALLY agree, these ******s are getting away with murder, practically.

[Alexerer]

Originally Posted by pepethedon "HAIL $ony, masters of the pocket book! Big Brother of the electronics world"

I totally get that refrence (1984 book) and its actually true. and I dislike that about Sony

[pepethedon]

Originally Posted by Alexerer I totally get that refrence (1984 book) and its actually true. and I dislike that about Sony

Sadly, that's where we're headed, bro. AWESOME icon you've got there, at least animals aren't so complicated (for nothing)

[KillerBug]

Originally Posted by STLcardsWS I am really against piracy, because it hurts game devs.. but when game devs go and do this.., makes me want to pirate the f*ck out of EA.. just because they want to do things that violate us.. I think its only fair others do the same.. Don;t pirate Honest game devs.. but f*ck when you do this to your customers i think its fair game on companies like this.. Repect your customers and your customers will respect you.. F*ck us we will F8Ck back.. sorry thats just human nature.

My plan is to sit back and watch the carnage...the people who agree to these terms will eventually get f**ked royally, and then they will run to their congressmen complaining about how they didn't know about the thing that they intentionally ignored, and how that congressman has to do something about it. Said congressman will then go and make a really big deal out of it, some BS law will get passed, and the scumbag lawyers working for companies like AT&T, Sony, and EA will quickly find some other way to f**k over their customers.

[scarecrow]

If the intentions of these kinds of acts is to battle piracy and to cover the companies rears, then the companies that enforce these policies fail to see that they create what it is they are trying to battle. To even play the latest games on the ps3 you must waive your rights. What happens when you refuse to give up those rights? Is the consumer forced to suck it up and realise that what they have now purchased is limited to a number of games, online game play and any future features? This forces the consumer to put a value on his or her rights. How much is your rights worth? Well if you still want to continue to be a free human being (atleast to the extent of what we are lead to believe) then you will not give up these rights. So what is left? You either realise now just how limited your purchased product is (PS3) and live with it, or you sell it. Well this isnt exactly going to satisfy the majority. You have now given greater reason for jailbreaking (what you OWN through PURCHASE) and for some, piracy. So in the end, they create more of exactly what it is they dont want.

Just a thought (but might be a good idea to make note of), these are testing grounds for just what it is they can get away with. One of the steps to giving up total freedom. If the results are promising, you can bet there will be a lot more of it and worse. It is pure trickery to lead one into giving up their rights, much like signing your soul over to the devil.

[KillerBug]

Originally Posted by scarecrow If the intentions of these kinds of acts is to battle piracy and to cover the companies rears, then the companies that enforce these policies fail to see that they create what it is they are trying to battle. To even play the latest games on the ps3 you must waive your rights. What happens when you refuse to give up those rights? Is the consumer forced to suck it up and realise that what they have now purchased is limited to a number of games, online game play and any future features? This forces the consumer to put a value on his or her rights. How much is your rights worth? Well if you still want to continue to be a free human being (atleast to the extent of what we are lead to believe) then you will not give up these rights. So what is left? You either realise now just how limited your purchased product is (PS3) and live with it, or you sell it. Well this isnt exactly going to satisfy the majority. You have now given greater reason for jailbreaking (what you OWN through PURCHASE) and for some, piracy. So in the end, they create more of exactly what it is they dont want. Just a thought (but might be a good idea to make note of), these are testing grounds for just what it is they can get away with. One of the steps to giving up total freedom. If the results are promising, you can bet there will be a lot more of it and worse. It is pure trickery to lead one into giving up their rights, much like signing your soul over to the devil.

I thought they wanted piracy? I mean, piracy pushes sales...that is a simple truth.

[OoZic]

Don't know where the industry is going, but in the near future only people with an eduction for judge or lawyer can buy something with a ToS because they are only able to understand it.

The world is getting to specialized. Everything the industry makes needs specialists to repair it these days. Take a new car for instance. Ever tried to replace the front light bulb? It is almost impossible for a lot of new cars and only an expensive garage can do it. We as consumers don't have that kind of specialism. The same goes for laws. They are that difficult these days normal people don't understand them anymore and think "it will be ok to accept because the lawyers who wrote this ToS know what they are doing."

This thinking is so wrong!! The lawyers who write this kind of BS work for $ony, not for us! They have no intention to make our life more easy, just make it more difficult and generate more money for $ony and take more consumer rights away. Problem is $ony has a good example worldwide. Every government is taking away rights from people since the industry and politicians discovered world wide globalisation. And only one thing is important these days for governments (and $ony) and that is money. They need the money that bad they don't see (or want to see) they are changing us in slaves for the financial world.

Anyone did see the german chancellor Angela Merkel on TV a few weeks back? She was really screaming to youngsters who didn't want to work they had to work anyway. Tell me mrs. Merkel, why don't you understand these youngsters understand they are going to work for financial thieves who think they have the right to drive expensive cars and live in expensive houses while raping the economy. We are only slaves to these thieves, not humans who deserve a normal living.

[tech3475]

@OoZic

Your post actually reminds me of the bull**** in America where the Republicans always refer to rich people as "job creators" and 'they need their tax breaks otherwise there will be no jobs'.

Personally, I wont be using origin, luckily the only game I had on EA download manager was Burnout which I got for free and I don't care for Battlefield.

If I ever get into a position where I can **** some other company which does these sought of practices (e.g. include a clause which says "I can access all your data" as an updated TOS when they are so embedded with whatever they use they can't switch) I most likely will for the LOLs (especially if it's Sony or EA).

Also, I bet a few days from now this will be largely forgotten.

[KillerBug]

If I ever become a CEO, I will do my best to make sure that such contracts become illegal by including things in them that go beyond insanity...and then enforcing the conditions. Maybe put in a clause somewhere around the 500th page out of 10,000 pages that says that you owe me $50 for every second of time spent playing the system...and then after a year, send out two million bills for $20,000,000 each.

[brunospfc]

There's no win against big companies, they have govern in their hands, such as judges, even if u start wining, for some reason, some suspect judge will appear and invalidate your "win" against Sony.

Also campaing such "lets not buy Sony" products will never work also, the "mass consummers" dont give a crap for those things.

And this new TOS, by many companies shows how powerfull they are, and how bad they trust in a corrupted "law and moral" systems, they just dont care to try to put something hidden in the TOS, they are just saying: "...we own you, dont even try to complain..."

I see peopel putting a lot of effort and trying to say things like: "...we bought it, its our hardware, we can do whatever we want..."...C'mon people, if that was true, if Sony had any respect to their users, to start:

1 - Updates would be to bring improvments instead of..."nothing sometimes"?
2 - There would be separeted updates do PSN, and PLAYSTATION 3
3 - No features would be disabled, like Linux, that was the biggest "middle finger" i saw a companie do to users, put in their box "You can run linux", and then, "not anymore" :D, thats a rape

This new model will be followed by other companies, any this nightmare its just begining, you know in some years, all you'll have from the game your bought, its a login, so u can access the game online, nothing will be on your computer/video game, it will be a monthly payment, and if u dont pay, bye bye your data.

I'm sad for me ofcourse, i'll have to live under this rules (if u wanna play), but i realy sad for the future gamers, they didnt had the "gold age" of Playstation 1 and 2, SNES, so many systems where there was no bull**** like this, it just worked good :D


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