[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by rorymullan The xbox 360 fully emulates the originals xbox and the PS3 is more than capable of fully emulating the original PS2. It has to have been a consious choice from sony not to continue developmet on a full software ps2 emulator.

Even though what you say is not 100% correct, actually I do agree to that. It was an obvious marketing trick to blame that they gave up on it, actually, now that I think of it they never said anything. We speculated that they did give up, but it actually now makes more sense that they just stopped because they wanted to use the HD Remasters idea to milk the cow even further. Ah Sony being typical Sony...
Now that the PSN PS2 tittles will be launched I guess it will cause alot of controversy and Sony might reconsider to work over the emulator, or, they have worked already on it and they will include it on a new OFW allongside with the introduction of the PS2 PSN tittles.
Sounds reasonable huh?

[rorymullan]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM Even though what you say is not 100% correct, actually I do agree to that. It was an obvious marketing trick to blame that they gave up on it, actually, now that I think of it they never said anything. We speculated that they did give up, but it actually now makes more sense that they just stopped because they wanted to use the HD Remasters idea to milk the cow even further. Ah Sony being typical Sony... Now that the PSN PS2 tittles will be launched I guess it will cause alot of controversy and Sony might reconsider to work over the emulator, or, they have worked already on it and they will include it on a new OFW allongside with the introduction of the PS2 PSN tittles. Sounds reasonable huh?

They did patent a method to software emulate the ps2 on the ps3 so it wasnt completely unkown that they where working on it.

Sounds reasonable enough but with sony being sony I cant see them releasing a software emulator even if they have it fully implemented. They want people to have to rebuy their games.The emulator will just be packaged along with the games on the PSN.

I wasnt aware that they where releasing ps2 games on PSN, they must therefore have a working emulator, this could be optimised for individual titles but i doubt it as the ps3 is fully capable of emulating the ps2.

[Elegant]

Not all true, as you saw Silent Hill ran great on the slim's PS2 emulator. Sony could, in theory, take all known working games using said emulator sell those ones via PSN and say screw making the emulator better! They would only get a limited number of games but that might be enough for them.

[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by Elegant Not all true, as you saw Silent Hill ran great on the slim's PS2 emulator. Sony could, in theory, take all known working games using said emulator sell those ones via PSN and say screw making the emulator better! They would only get a limited number of games but that might be enough for them.

This wouldn't allow them to milk the cow so it's out of a question.

Also we are getting out of topic, let's end it.
I just wish that they are going to introduce a new self file with a system update or they are going to make it easy to us to find out what they did on those releases. (which will happen because Sony is Sony. )

Also, before I forget to ask.
I provided on a previous page the decrypted self files of the cobra CFW.
Can somebody HEX compare them to decrypted self files of OFWs and see what they changed in the ps2_softemu?
Also HEX compare the pst ones and try to check from which fw exactly do they come.(check/compare also with Debug FW emu files, they could be from these ones too)

[TizzyT]

@ VIRGIN KLM I don't know if this will help but I have IDA Pro and it (I think) can disassembles PPC64 ELFs. I don't really know how to use IDA but after some research I will try to use it on the unencrypted ELFs. If I do get it to work I will post everything in Plain text and and screen shots then upload. This might take some time as I don't know how to use IDA, I will first try disassembler I know how to use instead. If I cant do it or cant figure out how to use it I will say so.

PS: can someone point me to a guide on how to decrypt Self files? Thanks I want to keep this group project going...lol.

[STLcardsWS]

Even though what you say is not 100% correct, actually I do agree to that. It was an obvious marketing trick to blame that they gave up on it, actually, now that I think of it they never said anything. We speculated that they did give up, but it actually now makes more sense that they just stopped because they wanted to use the HD Remasters idea to milk the cow even further. Ah Sony being typical Sony... Now that the PSN PS2 tittles will be launched I guess it will cause alot of controversy and Sony might reconsider to work over the emulator, or, they have worked already on it and they will include it on a new OFW allongside with the introduction of the PS2 PSN tittles. Sounds reasonable huh?

With the ps2 classic that are hitting PSN.. I dont think they gave up on the software emu...

Its sony its all about $$$ .. If you want a ps2 classic on a slim.. Well you have to buy it from PSN .. Thats why i believe they BC out.. not because it was to much to produce.. but because they could make alot of money on PSN... Slowly releasing them... And i bet some will have files within the game that make the emulator complete..

Down the road i see Slims playing ps2 games... With these releases i think it only confirms that.. Now will this take time HELL YES IT will unless there is a leak... But is it possiable i think the answer will be yes..

Cant be no if those are original format PS2 titles.. (not remastered in HD)


PSP with PSone classic, they SLOWLY released the collection.. Saw a bunch of the lower level titles before the big names came .. Same will be with this..

[TizzyT]

Can anyone explain to me why the PS2emu selfs dont need a bios file like the ps1emu selfs?

[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by TizzyT @ VIRGIN KLM I don't know if this will help but I have IDA Pro and it (I think) can disassembles PPC64 ELFs.

If you do please rar the folder, upload and send me the results via pm.

Originally Posted by TizzyT Can anyone explain to me why the PS2emu selfs dont need a bios file like the ps1emu selfs?

I've answered that to an other thread already.
The important bios portion is already embed in the self files.
Depending on which function they are responsible, they have the portion of the bios that enables them to perform this operation.

[TizzyT]

I cant do it lol, it gives me an error and says the structure is bad.

I can post what the other disassembler has besides IDA, but don't know if it'd be useful.

[daxgr]

Guys if it turns out that i can replace a prx that vsh load_starts without crashing vsh then i will do a dump of lv2 mem when a backup of a ps2 game is inserted and one when the original is inserted. You should work on that first, at least that's why i'm gonna try to do.