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Old 10-04-2011   #41
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they NEVER promised being able to play ps2 games on the slim so don't act like they did and that you are entitled to it. You can still play ps2 games on the fat.
Actually, you can't play PS2 games on most fat models. When I bought mine they were still using PS2 game support as an advertised feature...it wasn't until about a week later when I got tired of playing GTA4 that I popped in a GT4 and realized I had been scammed. At the time I thought, "heck, I can wait...GT5 will be out in a month and I preordered so I will have it on launch day"...it was over 3 years before GT5 actually got released.
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"Yourgrandma"...actually you're wrong. Xbox360 emulates xbox 1 games via software. That's why only 90% of the games work. If it were hardware based it would support 100% backwards compatibility.

1. So stop sucking facts out your thumb and using it against people

2. Dude...take a chill pill. We all entitled to our opinion

I for one agree that sony are what you call "corporate criminals". It doesn't take a doctorate in law to understand what is happening here : Anyone who tries to sell you the same product twice is in so doing, trying to take you for everything you have. All they care about at the moment is there own personal financial gain. They lost 2billion dollars with the ps3 at launch (ps3 costed $850 to make and they had to compete by selling them for $600 at launch) that's why they desperate to make money even to the extent of sucking there customers dry by using old games.
AND...do you realy think that when ps4 is released, that they wont then start selling "Ps2 Classics" off the new and improved PSN, and try selling them back again? Or how about reselling the ps3 games on this futuristic PSN? Trust me...this is something sony would definitely do
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Originally Posted by KillerBug View Post
it wasn't until about a week later when I got tired of playing GTA4 that I popped in a GT4 and realized I had been scammed. At the time I thought, "heck, I can wait...GT5 will be out in a month and I preordered so I will have it on launch day"...it was over 3 years before GT5 actually got released.
Actually i remember them announcing that they were no longer supporting ps2 playback on there newer consoles... here is a source http://www.shacknews.com/article/493...l-materializes nice try though... sony was hurting in numbers and the ps3's price was a major hurt to the sales and removing ps2 support at least helped bring down the production costs.
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Originally Posted by yourgrandma View Post
Actually i remember them announcing that they were no longer supporting ps2 playback on there newer consoles... here is a source http://www.shacknews.com/article/493...l-materializes nice try though... sony was hurting in numbers and the ps3's price was a major hurt to the sales and removing ps2 support at least helped bring down the production costs.
I don't live in the UK.
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Originally Posted by yourgrandma View Post
Actually i remember them announcing that they were no longer supporting ps2 playback on there newer consoles... here is a source http://www.shacknews.com/article/493...l-materializes nice try though... sony was hurting in numbers and the ps3's price was a major hurt to the sales and removing ps2 support at least helped bring down the production costs.
you absolute idiot!!! software emulation does not cost a dime!! only a bit of ur time to bother and code the emulation!! thats how the guys at pcsx2 give out the damn software for free!!! Get your nose out of sony's ass and stop defending their blatant attempt at scamming the public!!
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Originally Posted by stevorkz View Post
"Yourgrandma"...actually you're wrong. Xbox360 emulates xbox 1 games via software. That's why only 90% of the games work. If it were hardware based it would support 100% backwards compatibility.
well it's based off of the directx architecture where older revisions are compatible with newer.... and that makes things much easier. I highly doubt the ps2/ps3 are ever remotely related in their architecture.

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I for one agree that sony are what you call "corporate criminals". It doesn't take a doctorate in law to understand what is happening here : Anyone who tries to sell you the same product twice is in so doing, trying to take you for everything you have. All they care about at the moment is there own personal financial gain.
Sadly this is how all corporations controlled by stockholders work... and repackaging the old and making it new is nothing new.
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They lost 2billion dollars with the ps3 at launch (ps3 costed $850 to make and they had to compete by selling them for $600 at launch) that's why they desperate to make money even to the extent of sucking there customers dry by using old games.
... more like they got rid of the backwards compatibility because it was adding to the production costs and not making them any money! The ps2 was still selling well enough to cut it from the ps3.

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AND...do you realy think that when ps4 is released, that they wont then start selling "Ps2 Classics" off the new and improved PSN, and try selling them back again? Or how about reselling the ps3 games on this futuristic PSN? Trust me...this is something sony would definitely do
PS4 architecture may be completely different and may not play ps3 games in which they would have to rewrite (resale) and maybe upscale to play on the ps4. But i highly doubt they would shutdown the ps3 PSN to force people to buy the ps4 renditions of ps3 games.

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I don't live in the UK.
yes well i don't have the time to dig up the same article in every country... hell it probably said somewhere on the freakin box that "this ps3 doesn't support ps2 software"

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you absolute idiot!!! software emulation does not cost a dime!! only a bit of ur time to bother and code the emulation!! thats how the guys at pcsx2 give out the damn software for free!!! Get your nose out of sony's ass and stop defending their blatant attempt at scamming the public!!
You mean all those programmers/testers at sony work for free! Cool i didn't know that . Try at least thinking just a little bit before posting next time.
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well it's based off of the directx architecture where older revisions are compatible with newer.... and that makes things much easier. I highly doubt the ps2/ps3 are ever remotely related in their architecture.


Sadly this is how all corporations controlled by stockholders work... and repackaging the old and making it new is nothing new.

... more like they got rid of the backwards compatibility because it was adding to the production costs and not making them any money! The ps2 was still selling well enough to cut it from the ps3.



PS4 architecture may be completely different and may not play ps3 games in which they would have to rewrite (resale) and maybe upscale to play on the ps4. But i highly doubt they would shutdown the ps3 PSN to force people to buy the ps4 renditions of ps3 games.


yes well i don't have the time to dig up the same article in every country... hell it probably said somewhere on the freakin box that "this ps3 doesn't support ps2 software"



You mean all those programmers/testers at sony work for free! Cool i didn't know that . Try at least thinking just a little bit before posting next time.
i get it it seems that you have more money than brains to realise that sonys scamming you!! i mean this time they arent even gonna put in a dime to upgrade the games also!! and they have never put it up on a box that they didnt support ps2 emulation. if you dint blv me get off ura ss go to ur nearest store and check a box!!
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well it's based off of the directx architecture where older revisions are compatible with newer.... and that makes things much easier. I highly doubt the ps2/ps3 are ever remotely related in their architecture.
LOL DirectX last I checked was an API. The original Xbox uses the RISC intruction set but relied on modified pentium 3 to process information. The Xbox 360 uses the xenon cpu which is on the power architecture and also uses RISC instruction set.
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yes well i don't have the time to dig up the same article in every country... hell it probably said somewhere on the freakin box that "this ps3 doesn't support ps2 software"
Yes, it did...on the back...in small lettering. The fact is that I wasn't part of the scene back then...I wasn't tracking every last sony announcement on their twitter account, and I didn't read the entire box in the store...I doubt many people would do any of these things. It launched with BC support and the removal was extremely quiet, in fact when I did a web search back then, all I could find was forum posts about it...nothing from sony saying anything about the feature removal...but I guess that might have been on page 50 of the google results.
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