[Mischif93]

This is so upsetting as I feel its not the 1st time I think they lied and have used bad language skills as the reason, I understand completely why people are angry and should get refunds as duel boot was a great idea.

Though I wont be canceling my pre-order as I just want a solderless downgrader even though its more expensive than progskeet and what progskeet's solderless will probably cost...

Hopefuly this flasher will at least flash properly and not damage anything... What a gamble im taking

[Bassflower]

I pre-ordered @ Lightake.com ....wrote 2 mails that I want to cancel my order...no Reply till now.....

[Plutonic]

It isn't a "scam"; stop blabbering stuff.

It's a change on release

The scam here is only possible to be made by the website you got it from. Can you get your money back? Yes? No scam was commited. No? The site you got it from scammed you; they sold you something saying it did X thing when it didn't.

This is to be expected with products like these, you should all know this if you're going to pre order them. Last minute changes are always in high probability.

Admit it; if it was the other way around ("We had to remove the solderless clip so dual boot could be possible"), ALMOST EVERYONE would be saying "BUT I BOUGHT IT FOR SOLDER-LESS OMG SCAM WHO CARES ABOUT DUAL BOOT"

[lunex]

I bought it only for solderless clip, easy installation and of course downgrade functionality so dual-boot doesn't really matter for me. Only thing that matters is waiting forever for shipment....

[Rogerdodger91]

Originally Posted by Plutonic It isn't a "scam"; stop blabbering stuff. It's a change on release The scam here is only possible to be made by the website you got it from. Can you get your money back? Yes? No scam was commited. No? The site you got it from scammed you; they sold you something saying it did X thing when it didn't. This is to be expected with products like these, you should all know this if you're going to pre order them. Last minute changes are always in high probability. Admit it; if it was the other way around ("We had to remove the solderless clip so dual boot could be possible"), ALMOST EVERYONE would be saying "BUT I BOUGHT IT FOR SOLDER-LESS OMG SCAM WHO CARES ABOUT DUAL BOOT"

It is to a scam. In fact its such a scam that Im having a hard time believing you are actually justifying their actions. First, they hyped up their product as being the "FIRST DUAL BOOT FLASHER EVER". Right on their websites front page. In fact, ITS STILL ****ING THERE.

Now I did feel the clip was a bonus when i first heard about them delaying it to add it, but i had already pre ordered mine way before the clip was announced. I was ready to solder it to begin with. I bought it for the dual boot functionality because im a developer, and Id also like to play some new games. I had high hopes for this for a long time, and waited almost a month now only to be left disappointed.

Now if you are not so blatantly retarded, I believe you will probably know that im not the only person who wanted it for that reason. I doubt that not even 1/8th of the people who reserved it, did it for the downgrade functionality. They did it for the dual boot.

So explain to me how you feel waiting until the last minute to tell people straight up this **** dont dual boot doesnt constitute them trying to fraud people into buying something they wouldnt have bought if they knew the truth before hand. The fact is, they couldnt deliver, and they knew that it would impact their sales. For legal reasons they said it at the last minute to avoid criminal investigation. And guess what, hella people who didnt check their favorite ps3 hack site in the last few days are going to be very disappointed and **** out of luck. Thats a scam. If they wanted to do the respectful thing, they would get ahold of each and everyone of their distributors and do the right thing, and get them to refund all their customers money back. If the customer wants a flasher, he can just order it again. FACT.

[lunex]

@Plutonic
I agree with you completely. But I guess for people like me who pre-ordered it later (around 20th of september when information about solderless clip poped out) and mainly for downgrade functionality is a good thing because of all that order cancelling we will probably get this flasher earlier ;p

[macdude2012]

yea i feel how everyone feels about the e3 flasher, i too was dissappointed when i found out it would be sold without the dualboot feature, i got my refund back already, i shouldve known it was to good to be true tho, but hey, maybe something else comes out and gets our hopes up again

[carldenning]

when they drop the nano part for the flasher i never herd a word from people who preordered . but now it affects you your moaning , e3 team cant win iver way , they made it dual boot witch was part soldering and it worked . to many people complained that they wanted it total solderless so they did that and made the clip , which means it cant dual boot as it not wired to the same points , really you cant complain when you pre order somethink that not even built aprt from the one they are useing when it was partlley solderless . the reaon its droped for now is This is mainly due to the need of manually soldering additional wires. so its its not duel boot from out the box but it possiable be made duel with wire and they said it will be total solderless and duel booting at a later date . they got to work on it as it total diffent to what you people paid for when you pre ordered as it as it was partly solderless then . the flasher it self wont be any diffent it will be connecter to make it deul booting . any way like i said what can u exect when you pre ordered somethink that not even been made apart from the the one they using .

anyway i still chosse this over progskeet or teeny 1) e3 will be dual boot in time and they will sell the out the box dual booting and people who alrady got it wil be able to make it dual booting once its sorted

and 2) e3 flasher you dont need a pc to downgrade unlike proskeet and teeny where you have to **** about more . yes the price is higher than them but what do u expert when u get a stat station and stat wires they do cost them money to buy them they dont get it free , so take them of the package and it probbale work out the same price as the progskeet

i have faith in the e3 team they was the best around with the cloan of usb jailbreak

[wakka_wakka]

The most important thing here is, can you still use the dual boot option if you solder? Or did they remove any of the necessary components from the board?

EDIT

I just sent them an e-mail sharing my displease (internet is not all about rage mkay?) with the removal of dual booting and this is what they replied:



Now, I wonder, how does this work? Is the fw locked to the hdd alone?

[carldenning]

Originally Posted by wakka_wakka The most important thing here is, can you still use the dual boot option if you solder? Or did they remove any of the necessary components from the board?

i think if you solder it then possible as the flasher was built partly solderless but then made the clip and lost duel booting the only diffent betterween the flasher before and now are the clip so so i cant see how it couldnt be done if you solder it to the right points from when it was partley solderlesss
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Originally Posted by wakka_wakka The most important thing here is, can you still use the dual boot option if you solder? Or did they remove any of the necessary components from the board? EDIT I just sent them an e-mail sharing my displease (internet is not all about rage mkay?) with the removal of dual booting and this is what they replied: Now, I wonder, how does this work? Is the fw locked to the hdd alone?

edit u could use 1 hhd but that would mean formating every time u swap firmware becuse part of fimware is on the hdd so i have 2 hhd . 1 made with 3,55 fw and 1 hdd made with 3.72 so then you dont have to formate every time other wize you have to sort all you stuff every time u swap fimware eg install games install linux etc